Clear proof the hanging munchkin video is fake

[randomviduploader]

I knew that guy was an idiot.

[Celidus]

In 1989 my sister rented this movie on VHS for the sole purpose of seeing the hanging person, that's when the story started, when it came out on VHS. We watched this part of the movie over and over and this is indeed what was EXACTLY on the VHS tape. I almost went out and bought the movie just for this reason but didn't. Now I wish I had.

[fallentwig]

@Celidus Yeah, if you had this exact same video, then that proves that this hoax was recorded onto vhs tapes by someone. I dont know who did it or why but theres no denying it has been edited after watching my video

[Celidus]

@fallentwig I was referring to the crane - I was wishing I had bought the tape just so I could see it again. On the original VHS tape I remember seeing a ladder being kicked over then the swinging part. But that was in '89 with a 19" color TV - That's why I wish I had the VHS tape.

[KawaiiGirl104]

Watched full video.... Okay, I get where you're coming from. I've believed the hanging munchkin story since I was about 5. This hasn't changed that, but I became UNBIASED for this video only.

Now, for something for YOU to look at, my friend. The munchkin thing was too fat. It's way easier to make something skinnier than fatter and make it look unedited. (Believe me, I've been editing a bunch of shit for years) THE CRANE IS FAKE. Obviously.

Hanging munchkin. End of story.

Just a girl's opinion.

[fallentwig]

@KawaiiGirl104 Surely you must admit that parts of the crane appearing in the hanging video prove the hanging video is fake. Why do you think the crane is fake? What do you mean by the muncnhkin is too fat? The munchkin is the fake version

[KawaiiGirl104]

@fallentwig I do not admit that. They more than likely used a green screen to film the background (if they didn't, then I still have other theories) and it was just a pixel error. The part at the edge of the tree is actually not spreading far enough in the "fake" version.

I mean that, look at the crane's neck. Look at the munchkin's body. They are different widths. Like, way different.

Also, the crane just seems too graphically enhanced..... :\

[fallentwig]

@KawaiiGirl104 fyi, they didnt use a green screen. This video clearly shows at the exact same frame the bird stretches to, both its wing tips appear in the exact same places. Its not one wing tip it's both, and u can check the positions of the actors to tell its at the exact same frame. Why is the crane being different from the munchkin important? Someone has simply edited out the bird and put a hanging munchkin in, the wing tips that were missed by the editor proves this

[fallentwig]

@KawaiiGirl104 Hang on, the bird and the munchkin are not even in the same place. Its not like they have covered the bird with the munchkin. The bird has simply been edited out, by copy and pasting the image of the bottom of the 3 trees over the bird. If u've edited b4 then u'll know wot i mean. But they have only edited up to the edge of that tree, so when the bird stretches past that tree, its wings appear in the hanging video. It's so obvious, I cant believe you cant see that

[KawaiiGirl104]

@fallentwig Okay. You gotta remember that, in 1939, the quality of videos wasn't the best, audio or video. I believe that it was pixel error. Plus, the wing goes more pixels further than the "edited" version you showed.

The crane being different says that it's nearly impossible for it to have taken the place of a swinging-back-and-forth munchkin.

And they are in the exact same place. It is TEN TIMES easier to edit stuff out than putting stuff in. Why waste the extra effort?

[fallentwig]

@KawaiiGirl104 The only reason the 2 vids look different is because the bird version is from the dvd. The crane is not in the same place as the munchkin, the munchkin is off to the right, they have put it in the clearing. Those 'pixels' poke out slowly from behind the tree, they are too big and move too deliberately to be pixellation and at the same frame its where the bird stretches to, both wings appear behind 2 trees, I show the bird vid to show he stretches at that exact time

[fallentwig]

@KawaiiGirl104 Your argument is simply that you had the munchkin video when u were younger. I'm aware it is on vhs tapes, but its a hoax, if u saw this exact same video then you saw a fake video on vhs. You say you have editing experience, I cant believe u cant see that its been edited up to those 2 trees, those wings are so clear, they are in mid air, its the same frame as the bird stretches to at the same point. one video is sharper as its dvd

[KawaiiGirl104]

@fallentwig I've been editing for years, and I'm a perfectionist when it comes to just little, itty-bitty pixels. I see a sliver of subtitles, I flip a b****. I had a version of this movie that was an official release (my mom even checked it over and over again to make sure) and I swear to God it wasn't a crane there. VHS, btw. I never had the DVD version, because when I was 5, VHSs still existed. I can't go and check now, because I don't have the VHS any more, but I'm sticking to my belief.

[Thebananasareonfire]

ITS REALL

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[fallentwig]

@Thebananasareonfire Maybe u shd have watched the video before making ur stupid comment, i have proven it was fake, anyone with half a brain can see it

[whitmorealyssa777]

the first one u showed was fake in the real version the vcr kind of version there was a hanging muchkin but in the new version they put a bird in the place of it but the first one u showed wasn't even close to the real one the real one the muchkin was hanging sort of side ways and swinging not just dangling

[fallentwig]

@whitmorealyssa777 well the version i have shown is on vhs tapes that claim to be original and that is the vid ive proven is fake. The video you mention I have never seen, which is odd considering wizard of oz aired unchanged for 50 years, and I have the original vhs tape, it has the bird

[rfedor56]

Then what's swinging out in the original version ? It looks like a munchkin swinging out & back in..

[fallentwig]

@rfedor56 yes thats the hanging vid i show here, its on tapes that claim to be original version and This video proves it was edited. Its an edited hoax on vhs tapes. I have an original vhs and it has the bird

[kurtdog119]

@fallentwig

Actually, the original shot was grainy and jittery, showing the actual figure of a hanging munchkin. Other videos have shown this so called "urban myth" debunked. The crane was edited in to take the place of the hanging munchkin, so the original shot showed the munchkin-like figure hanging from a tree. I've seen the videos debunking the hanging munchkin "myth", and the munchkin suicide may be an alleged murder on-set.

[fallentwig]

@kurtdog119 where is ur evidence of this? I have just proven that parts of the bird appear in the hanging video, proving without a doubt its fake, did u actually watch the vid?

[fallentwig]

@SpikeX96 I prefer to know the truth than delude myself with a silly myth. Either way the fact is it's definitely fake. This video proves it

[Shizalumni]

More proof it's a hoax: 1. It was filmed on a movie set, the tress aren't real and would not have supported the weight of even a little person. 2. Not only is the cast walking directly toward the tree, an entire crew is facing the same direction. There is no way they wouldn't have noticed someone hanging from the tree. 3. You can clearly see the damn bird. People who believe this myth are just silly.

[fallentwig]

@tachis23 You should have watched my video before making that comment, you're wrong and my video proves it

[fallentwig]

@GamingGeckoTV I've just proven thats wrong if you watch the video

[kellere1]

the Hanging Munchkin is real its only on VHS they remastered the movie and they took out the hanging munchkin and replaced it with a swan dumbasses!!!! try to buy the VHS version not remastered though you can obviously tell whhen the color changes drastically .. the hanging munchkin was real.. not fake it just got removed cuz they didnt want people seeing it cuz kids....

[fallentwig]

@kellere1 U shd have watched the video before commenting, I have the original vhs and it has the bird, parts of the bird appear in the hanging video proving that the bird video came first and the hanging video is fake, its 100% proven in this video

[kellere1]

@fallentwig lol i did watch the full thing now i think your right haha good job figuring this out.

[kellere1]

@kellere1 i just watched that other guys version i didnt see anything poke out are you sure your video isnt a hoax? and you edited yours to look like yours was real???? lol idk which is real though

[fallentwig]

@kellere1 The original hanging vid is called 'Wizard of Oz 2011: Hanging Munchkin Found on VHS Tape' You can see the wing tip appear at 0:24,1:35 and 2:58 in 3 different zooms. The clearest one is at 1:35 just below the b in youtube, see for yourself. I havent touched the clips, I spotted it in his video and had to point it out

[MrFilmMaker08]

I really do not think this is fake. At 1:03, it is not a bird. It looks a lot like a hanging munchkin, except turned sideways.

[xXfriedmosXx]

lol i thought it was real

[shadowfoxsucks]

@MrFalconboy67 u r right

[MrFalconboy67]

IM SO SO SO SORRY I COMMENTED THAT BEFORE WATCHING YOU ARE RIGHT CLEAR PROOF! :)

[fallentwig]

@MrFalconboy67 I appreciate your honesty, I was about to reply to you but I'm glad you took the time to watch it. Pls spread the word, I'm not interested in getting more views or anything I just want everyone to see the evidence, thanks for your comment

[MrFalconboy67]

@ilikeatomsinmycereal go to this channel SuicidalMuchkin and go to his video called..... Wizard of Oz 2011 Riposte: VHS tape. KA BLAM

[ilikeatomsinmycereal]

@fallentwig thank goodness! It would have been a sad and scary day if a munchkin was hanging in the original. Imagine how many children would have been scarred if millions of vhs copies were sold with that!!

[OurBestShooterReborn]

hey vid creator whos to say you didnt edit the wing tips into the hanging video huh

[fallentwig]

@OurBestShooterReborn The original hanging vid is called 'Wizard of Oz 2011: Hanging Munchkin Found on VHS Tape' You can see the wing tip appear at 0:24,1:35 and 2:58. The clearest one is at 1:35 just below the b in youtube, see for yourself

[crystyrose]

you can see him swing into the shot it's not a bag it's the real thing. you guys watch carefully!

my YOUNGER neighbor could even tell that it is real!

[fallentwig]

@crystyrose This proves the hanging video is fake, parts of the bird have been left in, which proves it was edited, surely this is obvious, did you actually watch this video?

[2036584179]

maybe the bird ate the munchkin and that's why no one ever found the body

[SlimyPassage]

Great vid

[codybreanne]

Thanks, what's still left that I'd like to know, is how did people make all these conclusions, producer suicide, directors daughter,e.t.c and who is the directors daughter they are referring to?

[fallentwig]

@codybreanne They are all just crazy stories based on the myth, i.e. - spurned lover, fired stagehand etc there has never been anything solid behind those stories. The only piece of evidence in support of the myth is the hanging video which I have proven is fake.

[codybreanne]

@fallentwig what about the daughter, who is she and is she still alive?

[fallentwig]

@codybreanne I dont know about this directors daughter story, can you explain it? The director was Victor fleming, he did have 2 children but they were either born after or were certainly very young when oz was filmed.

[codybreanne]

@fallentwig I was just wondering how people could you draw up that conclusion about the daughter unless she's actually dead, I was wondering if the directors daughter (s) had actually died or is still alive...

[fallentwig]

@codybreanne What conclusion about the daughter? Whats supposed to have happened to her?

[codybreanne]

@codybreanne oh they thought maybe she was the one who(not the munchkin or bird) committed suicide, my question was did any of the directors daughters actually commit suicide or are they still living?

[fallentwig]

@codybreanne I dont know if any of them ever commited suicide, either way it wasnt them in that video, they either were not born or were too young

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[FirmlyMounted]

Actually this is very good, I've got something to show them now

[FirmlyMounted]

This is good proof

[Biggswb]

great vid, never believed this myth (and to be fair to both sides of the argument it just looked like a freaking blob moving to me on vhs lol) glad to see someone with hard evidence its a fake, anyone who cant see it for themselves...well just wow lol

[Mir0skies]

ok this does look real but how do we know he didnt edited it how are we supposed to see that little bit he could have known from editting this video. When i watched the bird version i noticed his left wing didnt go post the shadow. the right wing is at the same place though. just bringing up another possible conclusion

[Mir0skies]

@Mir0skies and i just realized where ever the wing appeared their was something to act as a marker. He could have used this marker to know where to place the "wing" like the birds right wing was coming from the tree and the left one the shadow. and again the bird was to cover it why cover up a bird with a hanging man? Dont say to get noticed.Nobody will be proud to say they found a dead body on the set.

[fallentwig]

@Mir0skies Im not clear on what u mean, are u saying i edited this? You can see it in suicidals video at 1:35 just below the b in youtube, I havent touched it i just took a clip from the hanging vid and the real vid to show it happens in the same spot at the same frame. The body wasnt to cover up the bird, It was done as a hoax to further the myth of the hanging munchkin. In both versions the left wing pokes past the tree at the exact same frame, this is proof it was edited

[fallentwig]

@Mir0skies Just to be clear Suicidals vid is called 'Wizard of Oz 2011: Hanging Munchkin Found on VHS Tape'. You can see the wing tip appear at 0:24,1:35 and 2:58 he showshis video in 3 different zooms. In every video showing the bird you can see the bird stretches to the same point, the left wing pokes out more than the right one and its much easier to see if u can find one in zoom. The position of the actors shows its at the same frame.

[FriskyHelper]

Thanks fallentwig, this should wake a few people up to reality

[bettypager7]

@Jessika53 The bird version wouldnt of been there before the hanging if it was real....therefore the hanging scene has been transfered over the top hence the movement seen from the birds wings. Its not a complete new take because if you watch the dog, the movements are exactly the same. identical. impossible for a dog to do the exact movements.

[fallentwig]

@Jessika53 They did reshoots on many scenes they would have reshot this scene, You say of course there are no reports but they would have had to notify the Lapd and there are no records at the lapd. You can clearly see both bird wings appear in the hanging video.

[KyuubiKidChan]

So it really was a fake, huh? I'm so glad. Whoever edited that thing was really good, but not good enough! Thanks a bunch for posting this! Now my brother and I wont be so nervous!

[TheRealSkeebo]

when i watched the hanging version i was certain it was real.. thankfully i scrolled through the comments and read about this video. Thanks so much for exposing the fake. After watching this there is no way that you can believe the hanging one.

[fallentwig]

@TheRealSkeebo You're welcome, please spread the word. I think people get a bit fed up of me commenting on that video, but you can see why I'm so keen to show them this proof

[JGhipHOP101]

The problem with the hanging video is it looks more like a huge witch being hung not a tiny munchkin hah

[fallentwig]

@JGhipHOP101 Yeah I agree, I also think they made it too clear, I mean its right in the middle of the screen, of course they would have reshot that scene

[Sareena123323]

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[illhonestlybreakyou]

Thanks, you're right about the stories, I've heard a few funny ones - love-spurned munchkin, actor just got fired, accident that noone noticed. They often actually use these stories in argument. As if they prove something, every one is completely fictitious.

[windowl1ckers]

Every single person who thinks the hanging munchkin is real should see this! Thankyou so much

[fallentwig]

@windowl1ckers Suicidal won't accept this as a response to his vid

[BrownStrangely]

Its weird how people want to believe a myth so much, they deny any evidence to the contrary. Thanks for making this, I'd like to see them deny its fake after watching this

[fallentwig]

@BrownStrangely You're welcome, gd point



[lairdylairdy]

don't believe it to be true but i was always led to believe it was the director's or producer's or whoever's son that hung himself because his dad didn't pay enough attention to him. so he hung himself on set to spite his father

[Ocrisia83]

@fallentwig suicidals video IS pretty convincing, but people are going to believe it ayway even after they see this because people WANT to believe. When I saw suicidal's video I wasn't sure what to think, he did do a good job on the video, but I think the problem w his vid is he made it SO clearly a munchkin...that there never could have been an argument. I watched this movie when I was small, and I would have remembered clearly seeing someone hanging like that. Thanks again =)

[Blade5276]

@Ocrisia83 sorry to C my way into your A and B conversation with fallentwig (good friend of mine btw) but I agree with you Suicidal munchkin did a good job at fooling the easily fooled but what people dont realize is that his vid defies all logic The thing is dead smack in the center of the screen it not only attracts the eye it demands it so much that the people who made the movie and view each scene over and over again couldnt have possibly missed it it wouldnt have made it to final cut...ever

[Ocrisia83]

@Blade5276 I def agree with you, there is no way that would have made it into the film if it had been real. Aldo, Judy Garland and the other actors would have noticed a hanging body twenty feet in front of their faces. I just don't understand why people refuse to see logic. I guess they WANT to believe, but it's just SO obviously fake! It aggravates me to no end that people will argue something like this.

[Blade5276]

@Ocrisia83 I feel your aggravation my own oz video has well over 1 million hits with some 2000 plus comments and I have replied to almost all of them. (at least the stupid ones) its crazy people see whats right in front of them and if it is easy to accept they wont use their brains and think "hmmm yeah it looks like that but how did everyone making the movie miss that?" and I think that is why people dont allow themselves to see the fact that it just wouldnt work in real life, because its easy 

[trollk1ller]

Well spotted

[chipfields]

why was there a bird in there to begin with, could it have been someone to the rescue. im just curious

[fallentwig]

@chipfields They hired birds from la zoo to give the movie a more magical feel, this is all easily researched online, but ppl prefer to believe a myth. The worst thing about that hoax vid is they put the munchkin too central, if ur gonna fake something make it less obvious to see, no way wd there be a hanging person in the middle of a major movie for 50 yrs and noone ever saw it and no such death was ever reported to the lapd. Im just glad they missed the wing tip

[Invaderd]

:D Wow, nice observation!

[sowotifmynamesmolly]

I cant believe I used to think it was real, thanks for the vid

[ohgolum]

Thanks fallentwig, this is the only vid that really proves it was edited, so many gullible people

[mikey3totheb]

Thanks fallentwig, if they dont realise after seeing this they're clearly in denial

[Ocrisia83]

Thank you, I saw your post on this guys channel, and you're def right. If this was actually in the movie, they would have taken it out. Judy Garland and the other actors would have to be blind to not see a munchking hanging as obviously as whoever made this video is claiming it to be. The trees don't even look real, they're darker at the bottom. Clearly a fake, people are really gullible.

[mrjohan306]

Great video, im gonna rub this in the faces of the gullible myth believers

[fallentwig]

@tretten1234 The bird stretches its wing to those exact same pixels at the exact same frame. It proves that part of the bird appears in the hanging video so it has been edited out, if u cant see that ur in denial

[CriticalMoose]

good stuff.

[ImmaSynShenron]

Now that this has been cleaned up,who wants to have a toast to Fallentwig and Zapdungaa?

[Respectres]

Good eye, Fallentwig. You can also see the bird's other wing tip bulging from the tree trunk on the right of the hanging figure, at the same moment when the bird stretched its entire wingspan. Clearly the edit only covered the space between the trees, the only zone the editor worked in.

[fallentwig]

@Respectres Funny enough I had spotted the other wing too, but thought it was much harder to see than the left wing and I just wanted to make it as clear as possible