I am glad a doctor is advocating issue to wake up public.
I hope there are more and more doctors and professionals come out and expose the real danger of certain frequencies and other things those Authorities allow many company to create and causing dander for our life.
Thank you for this vitally important information, which is the most comprehensive and concise I have come across on this deadly subject.
Unfortunately, all other western governments are only concerned about the larger profits for their industries, irrespective of any harm done to the citizenry; in some instances, as with lethal pharmaceuticals, they give the criminal companies immunity from prosecution. The governments, therefore, are criminal enterprises under the facade of democracies.
Dear Global Friends,...Now we all should follow the law of Nature that does not harm our body. Use less dangerous micro-wave radiation which we are not aware or aware of. Do not wait until serious incurable diseases attack us, then we lose all our savings on medical fees without fruit. Our precious life is precious. Know how to use it well. Thank you.
How many inventors think for the safety on the health of the users ? They think more on self profits rather than the danger of the users' health. They do not truely understand what is morality. They know only greediness and egoism.
Hi Magda, thank you very much for this video, I learned a lot ! I use a router for my desktop pc, and i have a wifi/internet enabled mobile phone. What distance, in feet/meters/yards from my router would be a safe distance to be seated at ? And would carrying my mobile phone in my bag make much of adifference regarding exposure ?
I believe the laptops/microwave ovens/cellphones/cordless phones are semi-responsible for an increase in male infertility. It seems so obvious !
I thought the cross symbolises the plasters on a wound. We use to do that when plasters were not so sticky those days and we have to use it in a 'cross' formation to keep it on. Nowadays with better design we don't do that anymore. Maybe then we should change the flag to a 'minus' sign rather than a 'plus' sign?
Hi Magda, thank you for this beneficial video. I was wondering what your thoughts are on EMF harmonisers. Do they work? I have been diognosed with neutropenia do you think EM radiation could be the cause as my doctor said he doesn't know what's causing it?
The study whose headline you show at 0:55 found NO EFFECT. I quote:
"Microwave exposure of 100 male rats (and 100 sham-exposed controls) at SARs of 0.4 to 0.2 W / kg (pulsed, 2,450 Mhz circularly-polarized microwaves at 21.5 h / day, for 25 months) showed no biologically significant effects on general health, serum chemistry, hermatological profiles, longevity, cause of death, and lesions associated with aging and benign neoplasia."
@Evilcyber They go on to state that there were changes in corticosterone levels and immunological parameters at 13 months (which were not found in a follow-up study) and that there was an increase in primary malignancies in exposed animals. Experiment was terminated after 25 months. Had it gone on longer whether the cancers were relevant biologically could have been determined.
The World Health Organization has now declared that Microwave Radiation from cell phones and WiFi is possibly cancer causing. This video lets you listen to what is possibly causing the cancer. IT's OFFICIAL! So take precautions...
Reading some of the comments here, my conclusion is that some people are so far brainwashed that this will be a very uphill task for Magda. Like the smoker who is aware of the harmful effects of smoking is too engrossed in enjoying the smoke. We are all so hooked on these gadgets that it will be like going back 100 years, without them. There is NO DOUBT THAT RADIATION AFFECTS BIOLOGY.
@ashsister Like smoking and asbestos the effects are cumulative, and we won't know the full effect for possibly decades. Some of the issue is toxic load, some may not be bad, but add to other forms of EMF radiation and at some point the body hits its limit and that's when illness happens. World Health organization recently declared EMF sensitivity as a health condition, actively affect 6% of the people, and up to 30% who don't realize that EMF is the problem
someone posted this on facebook today. This did not exactly make me smile. I know about the cellphones but the cordless thing is new to me, though I am not shocked. Thank you for sharing this info with us.
@AlpineCaprice: The Red Cross symbol used by the International Committee of the Red Cross, a red cross on white background, was the original protection symbol declared at the first Geneva Convention, the Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded in Armies in the Field of 1864. According to the ICRC the design was based on the Swiss flag by reversing of the colours of that flag, in order to honor Switzerland, where the first Geneva Convention was held.
@magdahavas You should have said the words "was adopted" instead of used. And by the way, when I checked the flags in the video - look at the sky behind the red cross flag on the top of the red cross building - it looks like there is a chem-trail there! No wonder Europe is trying to ban chem trails!
This video is so logical and scientific but microwave radiation cannot be avoided! If I do not have these devices, my neighbors have plenty of them. When I open my laptop on my bed I found 6-7 wi-fi networks, what should we do?
You have made quotes about the findings of the Swiss government. But all I see are quotes - please provide sources of your information. I will not make any assumptions since I've only tried briefly to find the source of your quotes, but so far it looks like false attrition to me.
I hope you reply too because you've driven my dad nuts over this.
@MrRobotoII _ Here is the patent that you are looking for. Search for this on google WO 2004/075583 A1
It's complicated but let your dad read it. Swisscom knows that WiFi is dangerous. They filed a patent that shows it is because of the constant BEACON signal that you hear on the video. They use the patent in phones to stop the constant radiation but no one yet has used it for Wifi.
It seems evident to me that as the amount of radiation has gone up all over the developed world that if it was dangerous we would see signifcant sickness, death, problems, etc in the people who were around it the most. I have not seen this ... so what is your point here?
@justgivemethetruth - Well, I think that Steve Jobs was an early adopter - how well is he these days...Marin county is just across the San Francisco bridge and home to the yuppie tech generation - they have the highest rates of cancer in the US. Brain cancer in children is exploding - look that up - look again at that baby monitor in the video...Why do you think the swiss warn against using baby monitors....Infertility is epidemic...
@TheUnderDo6s Yes, basically this is wrong because teh statement has not taken into acount how the body reacts to microwaves, how cells and cellcommunication in the body works. And it neglects hundreds of thousands of people around the world reporting symptoms from microwaves. The reason for this is that official science only produces reassuring answers and unbiased researchers are cast to the wolves and not given any funds, promotions etc. The real science that is done is being neglected.
@fenix8634 I'm all for that! :) But it would perhaps be a pity because then the current conversion of the whole world to trash and poisonous gas would not proceed at the highest possible speed anymore.
@FuriosoDrummer Lol !! This is no university course, man.. We are all entitled to express whats right in our view. Remember that official science is very often controlled & used as a weapon by the industry to make money and sneak away from the responsibility. Just look at amalgam (silverfillings) Thats 50% mercury implanted in your mouth, seeping down in the bone of your teeth, jaw, brain and rest of the body. Lab test a fillled tooth and you see its mercury toxic. Wheres official science now??
@Sailor757SWE Finally, you are starting to see the picture. Imagine the lawsuits of the dental industry if they admit there is a problem with mercury the lawyers would bankrupt the dental insurance industry. Oh - that reminds me - the cell/wireless phone industry has no insurance. Apple has no insurance on the wifi devices or cell phones that they make. The canadian standards association CSA will not certify that the WiFi radiation is safe because they can't get insurance for that.
@AudioTech50 Unfortunately you have missed the whole subject of cell communication. Microwave frequencies affect the body on the cellular level and thats how it can cause disturbances in organs like the brain, nervous system and so on. And thats how it has increased the number of deaths in cancer.
@AudioTech50 - The iPhone safety manual says "Keep the iPhone at least 5/8th of an inch from your BODY at all times while turned on. Do not keep the phone in your pocket" The Blackberry manual says "keep it 1 Inch away." You are giving people disinformation because you are guilty of crimes against humanity by promoting the use of these products as safe. Apple says the radiation does penetrate into your body. That's why they put the warning in the user manual. The iPhone is making men sterile.
thankyou for all the great work you're doing, i was at your lecture at the Health Expo -- it was amazing - you backed everything up with solid studies
The point of this video is not to prove or disprove that wireless technology causes cancer. It proves that microwave radiation is emitting CONSTANTLY from baby monitors unlike cell phones!
Think about your baby that is just born and you put a live baby monitor there that is broadcasting the same frequency as your microwave oven CONSTANTLY. Would you want to put your baby right beside a microwave oven and leave it turned on 24 hours of the day? Why do the swiss warn not to use these monitors?
I do not speak German but according to google translate, the following article found on the same website mentioned in the video, states:
"The radiation of the currently popular wireless networks is relatively weak, so that the health risks for children are classified as small."
The report covers PAN (Bluetooth), WLAN (WiFi) and WMAN (WiMax). The entire original report can be found by searching for wifi on the wbsite mentioned in the clip.
@nortich - OK wifi wont kill you cause it is far from you. But think about the DECT Baby Monitor. It's placed a few feet from a newborn baby for 24 hours a day for about 3 years. How about that? - Now that you saw this video would you place a this next to your baby? Be honest because one day you will have to think about it...
@safeschool I do not know if WiFi and DECT are harmful or not. All I was trying point out that the website which this clip makes a reference to, has not said anything about harmfulness of WiFi and yet the clip claims the Swiss government has concluded that the use of WiFi should be limited due to health concerns; I could not find that on the website.
I'm just wondering if all the efforts to avoid these supposedly "harmful practices" are worth it.
To me I think that its pointless to NOT be able to enjoy the marvels of technologies just to extend that few years of lifespan. Same thing goes to unhealthy but awesome food. If you pursue an "unhealthy" lifestyle, u might live to 70, but u enjoyed life. If you are consciously trying to be healthy, u might live to 80, but miss out on a lot of good experiences...just saying
@leonghk12 Yes placing a microwave transmitter that broadcasts 24 hours a day right beside your baby is much needed to make your life as a parent easier. Think about what you are advising parents to do when they read your post. Yes you might not live to be 70 - but what about a baby? Do you really think that microwaving a baby is right to do for convienience?
@safeschool Well obviously you'll need some discretion on what i said...I mean I'm not discrediting this video, and if the parents are aware of the dangers and they are responsible enough they should avoid doing that. Plus I did not advocate placing a transmitter next to a baby, what I meant was my phone, my router, my laptop etc.
It's crazy how people are so UNinformed its called 'Dirty Electricity' look it up. Just because you cant see the effects of it, that does not mean there are not any. If you honestly think that there could not be any downsides to all this technology, your brainwashed.
It's crazy how people are so UNinformed its called 'Dirty Electricity' look it up. Just because you cant see the effects of it, that does not mean there are not any. If you honestly think that there could not be any downsides to all this technology, your brainwashed.
@straycatsgp The information you provide is WRONG. WiFi operates at 2.4 and 5 GHz and is microwave radiation. FM radio stations are NOT in the microwave band, which goes from 300 MHz to 300 GHz.
Also, higher frequencies are not necessarily more dangerous. Visible light frequencies are much higher than microwaves but are not as harmful!!!!
It is OK to have an opinion but please try to get your facts right before you express that opinion.
so uh.. let me get this straight. Microwaves emit less energy than visible light, infrared, and more energy than radio. and by an act of god are more dangerous?
please. how? radar even has a higher frequency, and energy than microwaves.
our sun emits microwaves but we are not dead.
higher frequencies mean more energy, means more electrons pass through your body. see how it doesn't make sense?
unless microwaves break the laws of physics...really?
@straycatsgp I'm not saying I agree with the video, but WiFi uses either 2.4GHZ(the so called IEEE 802.11 b/g/n) and 5GHz for the much less popular IEEE 802.11 a. The 20 or 40 MHz bands you are referring to are actually bandwidths. Depending on the standard there are 11 or 13 channels of 20 or 40 MHz(most of them overlapping) that are chosen by devices in order to transmit base on what channels are occupied since the 2.4 GHz band is pretty much free for all.
@straycatsgp Check out recent press releases from the World Health Organization one release says that they've reversed their previous stance and that Cell phones probably DO cause cancer. World Health organization recently declared EMF sensitivity as a health condition, actively affect 6% of the people, and up to 30% who don't realize that EMF is the problem. You nicely listed all these types of frequencies, they are all dangerous on many levels.
Government cannot be relied upon to ensure safety. Just as lead, asbestos, and smoking were not proven safe prior to widespread usage, the truth about wifi will eventually come to light.
I've already hardwired internet throughout my house, I will get rid of cordless phones now as well.
Terrible video. She spends the entire length measuring microwave intensity with dangerous-sounding devices, and says close to nothing about what microwaves actually do.
Terrible video. She spends the entire length measuring microwave intensity with dangerous-sounding devices, and says close to nothing about what microwaves actually do.
The comparison of placing a baby moniter or wifi basestation in your home equates to placing a cell phone tower is absurd. Any kind of scientifically research done on the subject that might influence switzerland in these decisions would be open to the rest of the scientific community. I don't see the harm, say, in limiting such radiation, but I DO object to this kind fear mongering.
The bees have bee dying because of cell phone towers, they should be illegal. In my opinion, this is genocide. once we do not have bees we wont be properly able to produce our own food.
I believe a physical barrier of shiitake, or another melanin containing mushroom may be necessary to block these harmful rads.
It is because the govt is using these devises for population control!!! Face the facts... our current population is exploding and in a few years we are expected to have 10 billion people on earth.
Overpopulation is a myth. Most humans live in cities which are just dots on the map. The reason why one billion people do not have the resources they need to live decently is because of mismanagement, corruption, lack of economic access, and the fact that our world is controlled by evil groups of people.
This myth is a lie just like the lie of man-made climate change and they are propagandized by the big media as excuse to take our freedoms.
Magdahavas... you are exposed to light radiation every day, right? well OMG you're going to get LIGHT CANCER!
Ignoring UV light, that statement is clearly absurd. But yet light is much more powerful than microwaves. Ultraviolet light is much more powerful than regular light, because its wavelengths are shorter. The longest wavelength of light is at least 1,333 times shorter than the shortest microwave wavelength. The evidence is not on your side.
Therefore, a photon of the most energetic microwave radiation has 1,333 times less energy than the least energetic Microwave radiation (1mm wavelength, although Wikipedia puts the lower bound more at 3mm).
and 3mm electromagnetic radiation, is like around 99 Gigahertz. I don't know of too many appliances that have that kind of output.
if u cant hear ur child crying out then u dont need a child. people in the 1800's did not have this and yet the childern grew up just fine, technology will destroy man kind
Actually, that is incorrect. The children in the 1800's did not grow up just fine. Infant and child mortality in the 1800's were many times higher then than it is today. A staggering number of babies and children never made it to adulthood. That is still the case in parts of the world that are significantly less technologically advanced. A lot of children do not grow up at all.
Unless you are David Blaine, how do you stick your hand in a microwave while it is on? Why doesn't bubble boy live longer? Red is showing "danger" on the meter? The meter looked a bit like something you can get on an infomercial for free with separate shipping and handling. If any of this more dangerous than a bucket of KFC? Not ignoring these concerns but the fear statements appear to be non-empirical but based upon a premise that ANY microwave radiation is dangerous.
Cell phones emit microwaves, should we ban microwaves? Cars kill thousands of people, should we ban cars? Liberal ideology leads to death, malnutrition, and decay of mans mind, should we ban liberal ideology?
Can some one please explain to me how they have free computers in Switzerland? Did they sign a deal with the person that built them, the person that shipped them, and the person that set them up to do this all for free? If not I call BS on these free computers being free.
@thebestsumoeva - The computers are not free. You get free internet access in swiss schools if you use wired instead of wireless internet connections. Swisscom is owned by the Swiss government and they want the schools to use a wired connection. You will also see many hotels only providing a wired internet connection. The swiss think different about wireless technology and have much higher safety standards. They warn the schools not to use wifi.
@safeschool How do you consider something free when you pay over half your income for it? The Swiss can be as irrational as they'd like about the safety of wireless, but I assure you there is next to no evidence that wireless causes any problems. As a matter of fact microwaves are less energetic than visible radiation per photon. Just because the Swiss don't understand electromagnetic radiation doesn't mean the world should follow them.
Governments should ban baby monitors that emit microwave radiation all the time. There is not need for them when they can be replaced with sound activated monitors that radiation only when a baby makes a sound to alert the parent. Designing safer products is a smarter way to use this technology.
@magdahavas why do we need baby monitorsor cell phones and towers? they didnt need all this 100 years ago and humans did just fine. just another way for the gov and companys to get more money
@patelbhavin27 Riots are not uncommon these days. So, on their website - " there is no proof of microwave dangers BUT we highly suggest that you do this to lower the radiation just in case. How would you tell the public without being held to blame? People are now shooting government officials.
@patelbhavin27 lol seriously... you must be a gringo ,p because... govmts don't work for you they work for industry and votes and telling you you can't have wi/fi is not a vote or business winning strategy.
How do you know this? And how do you explain the single and double strand DNA breaks in rats exposed to microwave radiation for a few hours? How do you explain the interference with DNA repair mechanisms? We have evidence that microwave radiation can both promote and initiate cancer.
@magdahavas Nobody can dispute that microwaves (defined as electromagnetic waves 300MHz to 300GHz) CAN be harmful to human health, try sticking your hand in a microwave oven for example. But that's around 600-1200Watts at point-blank range, consumer WiFi kit is limited by law to 100mW MAXIMUM, which makes it 600,000 times less powerful than a microwave oven in the worst-case scenario, and 1.2million times less powerful on average. There is no proof that such low powers cause any harm whatsoever.
@sl9sl9 " There is no proof that such low powers cause any harm whatsoever."
The ONLY way this conclusion was able to be reached was to CHOP the data at 10 years; it was proven the data was skewed in this manner and Australia too has negative research on cell phone level exposure.
"New" digital broadcasts were proven dangerous in Germany.
@magdahavas do the DNA strand break rats after prolonged exposure to radiation from router, or any other gadgets that we use today? i'm just wondering..
@magdahavas What kind of microwave radiation? The kind we use to nuke our food every day? If so, I can see rats being damaged. Where do you provide references to the information you have found?
@BoeingNerd Microwaves are picked up by the receptors of the cells in the body and disturbs and manipulates how the cells work. Especially brain and nervcells.
I have a trifield meter, which I realize doesn't get very sensitive for microwaves, but I get high readings when I use my cellphone for both emf and microwaves, but barely detect either (especially microwaves which is basically zero on my meter) on my iPod touch. I think cellphones are MUCH higher, not comparable.
@quadruplelatte You missed the point - it's the baby monitors on 24/7 - You are not touching your iPAd 24 hours a day - remember what marge simpson said - "Think of the children"
This is an absolutely top notch demonstration of the energy emitted from wireless devices.There is no doubt this technology has a adverse biological impact. Great work Dr. Havas.
On the issue of health effects of radio frequency waves, a large body of evidence now exists, and the international consensus is described in the references listed [on the physics website]. Based on these considerations, we do not believe that electromagnetic waves associated with WiFi in schools pose a health risk to children or teachers.
Profs Bill Atkinson, Peter Dawson, David Patton, Ralph Shiell,
Alan Slavin and Rachel Wortis
Members of the Department of Physics, Trent University
I am watching all of Magda's videos and informing myself, so that I can share this with others. This is fairly new info, since Oct. 10th. Got my partner interested, works for the gas and electric co. who are now transfering everything to being wireless...all the meter readings done by the car going by which means that each service meter has its own radio transmitter. Will continue to watch the videos..sad that 2009 ones have only 729 views. Thank you for your reply Safeschool. We here no nothing
It is still an issue here as to whether it is a health hazard. Big business rules as everywhere else.. I appreciate the work that Magda Havas is doing, but do question as to whether the average citizen will know or even care. Everyone has been dumbed down over the past decade into believing that there are no hazards and are dependant on them. If you tell them about this info, they will say that it is nothing but hysteria. This will be seen by English speaking in NA, but here??? Doubt it. lol
I did go into the health site...and saw the info. None of this info gets to the general public. Ones that know about the hazards and have for years, look...the others don't. No information in the paper or on TV. As for the info from Swiss Com and schools, this is new as of Oct 10th, remains to be seen what actually gets done. For years this has been an issue, being told no safety hazards and now when everyone is using them, try to get them to change! My husband says it is necessary for the job.
Now, living in Switzerland, and this information sounds good....but why don't the Swiss hear about it? Swiss Com selling cordless phones, wireless routers, etc., never giving any information to the consumer other than 'buy our products'... and that is all.
Antennas for Swiss Com, Sunrise, etc. on hospital roofs, what a laugh. Make it sound like we have so much info...we don't. We, the citizens, are laughed at, told that everything is ok, use the products. Health insurance 14% higher! Duping pl
@walkin7 - On your swiss health site it seems that they do tell you about radiation from Dect phones - the type of baby monitors to use - how to be careful if you hold wifi in your hand - turn the Wifi off when you don't use it. Don't have the cell phone in the car ever. In the United States and Canada there are no warnings at all! You are so lucky to be able to buy a cordless phone/baby monitor that has no radiation. Not available in the States because they say radiation can't hurt!.
Well done Magda! this is a great video where bad radiation has been made visible. Its so difficult to explain people what it is al about ...because its not visible. I hope the Netherlands will listen ...thanks again.
Thank you so much, Magda, for making it so professionally and undeniably clear what we're up against. Keep up the good work and all the best from Germany!
I am glad a doctor is advocating issue to wake up public.
I hope there are more and more doctors and professionals come out and expose the real danger of certain frequencies and other things those Authorities allow many company to create and causing dander for our life.
rutilequartzlight 2 weeks ago
Thank God this information is starting to be taken seriously.
soup2nuts1 1 month ago
Did i se chemtrails... At 0:13... ???.
JanHuniche 3 months ago
Thank you for this vitally important information, which is the most comprehensive and concise I have come across on this deadly subject.
Unfortunately, all other western governments are only concerned about the larger profits for their industries, irrespective of any harm done to the citizenry; in some instances, as with lethal pharmaceuticals, they give the criminal companies immunity from prosecution. The governments, therefore, are criminal enterprises under the facade of democracies.
dawes777 3 months ago 2
Dear Global Friends,...Now we all should follow the law of Nature that does not harm our body. Use less dangerous micro-wave radiation which we are not aware or aware of. Do not wait until serious incurable diseases attack us, then we lose all our savings on medical fees without fruit. Our precious life is precious. Know how to use it well. Thank you.
humbleforest 3 months ago
and @ :13 seconds Chemtrails
cdimmm 3 months ago 4
Dear Global Friends,
No one really cares for their health until death comes knocking then it will too late.
humbleforest 3 months ago 3
Dear Global Friends,
How many inventors think for the safety on the health of the users ? They think more on self profits rather than the danger of the users' health. They do not truely understand what is morality. They know only greediness and egoism.
humbleforest 3 months ago
Hi Magda, thank you very much for this video, I learned a lot ! I use a router for my desktop pc, and i have a wifi/internet enabled mobile phone. What distance, in feet/meters/yards from my router would be a safe distance to be seated at ? And would carrying my mobile phone in my bag make much of adifference regarding exposure ?
I believe the laptops/microwave ovens/cellphones/cordless phones are semi-responsible for an increase in male infertility. It seems so obvious !
Yahya76 4 months ago
I thought the cross symbolises the plasters on a wound. We use to do that when plasters were not so sticky those days and we have to use it in a 'cross' formation to keep it on. Nowadays with better design we don't do that anymore. Maybe then we should change the flag to a 'minus' sign rather than a 'plus' sign?
Chisel55 4 months ago
Hi Magda, thank you for this beneficial video. I was wondering what your thoughts are on EMF harmonisers. Do they work? I have been diognosed with neutropenia do you think EM radiation could be the cause as my doctor said he doesn't know what's causing it?
ummhashim1 6 months ago
LOL
I watched half of this on my iPhone through 3G then wifi,, can't .... C o m pl ete
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naelscorpio 6 months ago
The study whose headline you show at 0:55 found NO EFFECT. I quote:
"Microwave exposure of 100 male rats (and 100 sham-exposed controls) at SARs of 0.4 to 0.2 W / kg (pulsed, 2,450 Mhz circularly-polarized microwaves at 21.5 h / day, for 25 months) showed no biologically significant effects on general health, serum chemistry, hermatological profiles, longevity, cause of death, and lesions associated with aging and benign neoplasia."
Evilcyber 7 months ago 5
@Evilcyber They go on to state that there were changes in corticosterone levels and immunological parameters at 13 months (which were not found in a follow-up study) and that there was an increase in primary malignancies in exposed animals. Experiment was terminated after 25 months. Had it gone on longer whether the cancers were relevant biologically could have been determined.
magdahavas 7 months ago 14
will there still be radiation if the electronic device is turned off, but plugged in?
caisy33 7 months ago
The World Health Organization has now declared that Microwave Radiation from cell phones and WiFi is possibly cancer causing. This video lets you listen to what is possibly causing the cancer. IT's OFFICIAL! So take precautions...
safeschool 8 months ago
Reading some of the comments here, my conclusion is that some people are so far brainwashed that this will be a very uphill task for Magda. Like the smoker who is aware of the harmful effects of smoking is too engrossed in enjoying the smoke. We are all so hooked on these gadgets that it will be like going back 100 years, without them. There is NO DOUBT THAT RADIATION AFFECTS BIOLOGY.
Nick50115 8 months ago
Next step is to actually know the effects of microwave radiation on humans
ashsister 9 months ago
@ashsister Like smoking and asbestos the effects are cumulative, and we won't know the full effect for possibly decades. Some of the issue is toxic load, some may not be bad, but add to other forms of EMF radiation and at some point the body hits its limit and that's when illness happens. World Health organization recently declared EMF sensitivity as a health condition, actively affect 6% of the people, and up to 30% who don't realize that EMF is the problem
bioelectricshield 7 months ago
someone posted this on facebook today. This did not exactly make me smile. I know about the cellphones but the cordless thing is new to me, though I am not shocked. Thank you for sharing this info with us.
Misana 9 months ago
The red cross is used for our Flag?
You must know much more than any Swiss Citizen...
AlpineCaprice 9 months ago
@AlpineCaprice: The Red Cross symbol used by the International Committee of the Red Cross, a red cross on white background, was the original protection symbol declared at the first Geneva Convention, the Convention for the Amelioration of the Condition of the Wounded in Armies in the Field of 1864. According to the ICRC the design was based on the Swiss flag by reversing of the colours of that flag, in order to honor Switzerland, where the first Geneva Convention was held.
magdahavas 9 months ago 4
@magdahavas You should have said the words "was adopted" instead of used. And by the way, when I checked the flags in the video - look at the sky behind the red cross flag on the top of the red cross building - it looks like there is a chem-trail there! No wonder Europe is trying to ban chem trails!
safeschool 9 months ago
This video is so logical and scientific but microwave radiation cannot be avoided! If I do not have these devices, my neighbors have plenty of them. When I open my laptop on my bed I found 6-7 wi-fi networks, what should we do?
Marat623 9 months ago 2
@Marat623 Welcome to the new world order. LoL. Not only are you being monitored 24/7, you're being killed while at it.
formalz 9 months ago
@Marat623
I suppose you could always live out in the woods.
Ragitsu 7 months ago 2
no wonder why cancer are spreading like fire
rayoflightcanada 9 months ago 3
You have made quotes about the findings of the Swiss government. But all I see are quotes - please provide sources of your information. I will not make any assumptions since I've only tried briefly to find the source of your quotes, but so far it looks like false attrition to me.
I hope you reply too because you've driven my dad nuts over this.
MrRobotoII 9 months ago
@MrRobotoII _ Here is the patent that you are looking for. Search for this on google WO 2004/075583 A1
It's complicated but let your dad read it. Swisscom knows that WiFi is dangerous. They filed a patent that shows it is because of the constant BEACON signal that you hear on the video. They use the patent in phones to stop the constant radiation but no one yet has used it for Wifi.
safeschool 9 months ago
Where do I get the microwave radiation monitor?
justgivemethetruth 9 months ago
@justgivemethetruth - lessemf dot com
safeschool 9 months ago
It seems evident to me that as the amount of radiation has gone up all over the developed world that if it was dangerous we would see signifcant sickness, death, problems, etc in the people who were around it the most. I have not seen this ... so what is your point here?
justgivemethetruth 9 months ago
@justgivemethetruth - Well, I think that Steve Jobs was an early adopter - how well is he these days...Marin county is just across the San Francisco bridge and home to the yuppie tech generation - they have the highest rates of cancer in the US. Brain cancer in children is exploding - look that up - look again at that baby monitor in the video...Why do you think the swiss warn against using baby monitors....Infertility is epidemic...
safeschool 9 months ago
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WinAllDayIsJesus 9 months ago
@TheUnderDo6s Yes, basically this is wrong because teh statement has not taken into acount how the body reacts to microwaves, how cells and cellcommunication in the body works. And it neglects hundreds of thousands of people around the world reporting symptoms from microwaves. The reason for this is that official science only produces reassuring answers and unbiased researchers are cast to the wolves and not given any funds, promotions etc. The real science that is done is being neglected.
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
@fenix8634 I'm all for that! :) But it would perhaps be a pity because then the current conversion of the whole world to trash and poisonous gas would not proceed at the highest possible speed anymore.
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
@FuriosoDrummer Lol !! This is no university course, man.. We are all entitled to express whats right in our view. Remember that official science is very often controlled & used as a weapon by the industry to make money and sneak away from the responsibility. Just look at amalgam (silverfillings) Thats 50% mercury implanted in your mouth, seeping down in the bone of your teeth, jaw, brain and rest of the body. Lab test a fillled tooth and you see its mercury toxic. Wheres official science now??
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
@Sailor757SWE Finally, you are starting to see the picture. Imagine the lawsuits of the dental industry if they admit there is a problem with mercury the lawyers would bankrupt the dental insurance industry. Oh - that reminds me - the cell/wireless phone industry has no insurance. Apple has no insurance on the wifi devices or cell phones that they make. The canadian standards association CSA will not certify that the WiFi radiation is safe because they can't get insurance for that.
safeschool 9 months ago
@AudioTech50 Unfortunately you have missed the whole subject of cell communication. Microwave frequencies affect the body on the cellular level and thats how it can cause disturbances in organs like the brain, nervous system and so on. And thats how it has increased the number of deaths in cancer.
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
@AudioTech50 - The iPhone safety manual says "Keep the iPhone at least 5/8th of an inch from your BODY at all times while turned on. Do not keep the phone in your pocket" The Blackberry manual says "keep it 1 Inch away." You are giving people disinformation because you are guilty of crimes against humanity by promoting the use of these products as safe. Apple says the radiation does penetrate into your body. That's why they put the warning in the user manual. The iPhone is making men sterile.
safeschool 9 months ago
Magda,
thankyou for all the great work you're doing, i was at your lecture at the Health Expo -- it was amazing - you backed everything up with solid studies
we need more people like you right now
tracyaustin33 10 months ago
@FuriosoDrummer - Its the swiss study - go to the swiss board of health and read the warnings...
safeschool 10 months ago
The point of this video is not to prove or disprove that wireless technology causes cancer. It proves that microwave radiation is emitting CONSTANTLY from baby monitors unlike cell phones!
Think about your baby that is just born and you put a live baby monitor there that is broadcasting the same frequency as your microwave oven CONSTANTLY. Would you want to put your baby right beside a microwave oven and leave it turned on 24 hours of the day? Why do the swiss warn not to use these monitors?
safeschool 10 months ago
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FuriosoDrummer 10 months ago
I do not speak German but according to google translate, the following article found on the same website mentioned in the video, states:
"The radiation of the currently popular wireless networks is relatively weak, so that the health risks for children are classified as small."
The report covers PAN (Bluetooth), WLAN (WiFi) and WMAN (WiMax). The entire original report can be found by searching for wifi on the wbsite mentioned in the clip.
nortich 10 months ago
@nortich - OK wifi wont kill you cause it is far from you. But think about the DECT Baby Monitor. It's placed a few feet from a newborn baby for 24 hours a day for about 3 years. How about that? - Now that you saw this video would you place a this next to your baby? Be honest because one day you will have to think about it...
safeschool 10 months ago
@safeschool I do not know if WiFi and DECT are harmful or not. All I was trying point out that the website which this clip makes a reference to, has not said anything about harmfulness of WiFi and yet the clip claims the Swiss government has concluded that the use of WiFi should be limited due to health concerns; I could not find that on the website.
nortich 10 months ago
My Opinion ? if it ain't natural its dangerous. If waves go through walls etc..
then what do you think it will do to your insides. Well cancer is a big killer in the world. Well do the math and take your chances.
gijoao7 10 months ago
@gijoao7
You know what else is natural? Rattlesnake venom, mosquitoes, tetanus, and tornadoes.
Ragitsu 7 months ago 4
I'm just wondering if all the efforts to avoid these supposedly "harmful practices" are worth it.
To me I think that its pointless to NOT be able to enjoy the marvels of technologies just to extend that few years of lifespan. Same thing goes to unhealthy but awesome food. If you pursue an "unhealthy" lifestyle, u might live to 70, but u enjoyed life. If you are consciously trying to be healthy, u might live to 80, but miss out on a lot of good experiences...just saying
leonghk12 10 months ago
@leonghk12 Yes placing a microwave transmitter that broadcasts 24 hours a day right beside your baby is much needed to make your life as a parent easier. Think about what you are advising parents to do when they read your post. Yes you might not live to be 70 - but what about a baby? Do you really think that microwaving a baby is right to do for convienience?
safeschool 10 months ago
@safeschool Well obviously you'll need some discretion on what i said...I mean I'm not discrediting this video, and if the parents are aware of the dangers and they are responsible enough they should avoid doing that. Plus I did not advocate placing a transmitter next to a baby, what I meant was my phone, my router, my laptop etc.
leonghk12 10 months ago
It's crazy how people are so UNinformed its called 'Dirty Electricity' look it up. Just because you cant see the effects of it, that does not mean there are not any. If you honestly think that there could not be any downsides to all this technology, your brainwashed.
mgnlee04 10 months ago
It's crazy how people are so UNinformed its called 'Dirty Electricity' look it up. Just because you cant see the effects of it, that does not mean there are not any. If you honestly think that there could not be any downsides to all this technology, your brainwashed.
mgnlee04 10 months ago
The Swiss shall inherit the Earth!!
Onsteadvideos 10 months ago
You are confusing people by using the word "radiation" when talking about transmitting frequencies in radio transmissions.
Wife transmits in either 20MHz or 40Mhz bands.
FM radio station transmit in 87.5 to 108MHz
Microwave transmissions that go into the GigaHz (up to 100GHz)
X-rays are in the range of 30 petaHz to 30 exaHtz
If Wifi is dangerous, FM radio is even more dangerous
This is an example of someone in a white coat and some gadgets trying to scare the public with pseudoscience!
straycatsgp 10 months ago 10
@straycatsgp The information you provide is WRONG. WiFi operates at 2.4 and 5 GHz and is microwave radiation. FM radio stations are NOT in the microwave band, which goes from 300 MHz to 300 GHz.
Also, higher frequencies are not necessarily more dangerous. Visible light frequencies are much higher than microwaves but are not as harmful!!!!
It is OK to have an opinion but please try to get your facts right before you express that opinion.
magdahavas 10 months ago 39
@magdahavas uh...........
so uh.. let me get this straight. Microwaves emit less energy than visible light, infrared, and more energy than radio. and by an act of god are more dangerous?
please. how? radar even has a higher frequency, and energy than microwaves.
our sun emits microwaves but we are not dead.
higher frequencies mean more energy, means more electrons pass through your body. see how it doesn't make sense?
unless microwaves break the laws of physics...really?
Forman6 8 months ago 5
@straycatsgp I'm not saying I agree with the video, but WiFi uses either 2.4GHZ(the so called IEEE 802.11 b/g/n) and 5GHz for the much less popular IEEE 802.11 a. The 20 or 40 MHz bands you are referring to are actually bandwidths. Depending on the standard there are 11 or 13 channels of 20 or 40 MHz(most of them overlapping) that are chosen by devices in order to transmit base on what channels are occupied since the 2.4 GHz band is pretty much free for all.
zapopaul 8 months ago
@straycatsgp. Obviously you obtained your knowledge and degree in science through the internet!!!!!
1820sept 8 months ago
@straycatsgp Check out recent press releases from the World Health Organization one release says that they've reversed their previous stance and that Cell phones probably DO cause cancer. World Health organization recently declared EMF sensitivity as a health condition, actively affect 6% of the people, and up to 30% who don't realize that EMF is the problem. You nicely listed all these types of frequencies, they are all dangerous on many levels.
bioelectricshield 7 months ago
i dont think microwave radiation is that harmful.
Alembic 10 months ago
Government cannot be relied upon to ensure safety. Just as lead, asbestos, and smoking were not proven safe prior to widespread usage, the truth about wifi will eventually come to light.
I've already hardwired internet throughout my house, I will get rid of cordless phones now as well.
Dwyer084 10 months ago
This is so biased! People, please use your common sense.
burrdlim 11 months ago
How can the average person obtain a testing device for radiation waves.
soulfuladyme 11 months ago
@soulfuladyme - Go to lessemf dot com.
safeschool 9 months ago
do you have any idea how miniscule microwave radiation effects people?
honestly chernobyl was something to worry about. japan is something to worry about. not phones or wifi.
sothatswhathapppened 11 months ago
Terrible video. She spends the entire length measuring microwave intensity with dangerous-sounding devices, and says close to nothing about what microwaves actually do.
renhwa 11 months ago
Terrible video. She spends the entire length measuring microwave intensity with dangerous-sounding devices, and says close to nothing about what microwaves actually do.
renhwa 11 months ago 2
@renhwa But she also had little black box that blinked red for danger. What more proof do you need?
rickreed123 10 months ago
If you believe in Dr Emoto, and ONLY if you are interested, you can try Fusionexcel Quantum Products (fusionexcel.ca)
But you hate kinesiology concept and labeled these as New Age stuffs. PLEASE Don't send us hate mail, please, youtube has a lot of angry people eh :)
FusionExcelCanada 11 months ago
The comparison of placing a baby moniter or wifi basestation in your home equates to placing a cell phone tower is absurd. Any kind of scientifically research done on the subject that might influence switzerland in these decisions would be open to the rest of the scientific community. I don't see the harm, say, in limiting such radiation, but I DO object to this kind fear mongering.
p2pnoob 11 months ago
Pause the video at 0:12 and look at the sky and you will see two Chemtrails !
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 11 months ago
The bees have bee dying because of cell phone towers, they should be illegal. In my opinion, this is genocide. once we do not have bees we wont be properly able to produce our own food.
I believe a physical barrier of shiitake, or another melanin containing mushroom may be necessary to block these harmful rads.
sykoben 11 months ago
It is because the govt is using these devises for population control!!! Face the facts... our current population is exploding and in a few years we are expected to have 10 billion people on earth.
captainchukuan 11 months ago
@captainchukuan
Overpopulation is a myth. Most humans live in cities which are just dots on the map. The reason why one billion people do not have the resources they need to live decently is because of mismanagement, corruption, lack of economic access, and the fact that our world is controlled by evil groups of people.
This myth is a lie just like the lie of man-made climate change and they are propagandized by the big media as excuse to take our freedoms.
RonPaul2008dotcomluv 11 months ago
Where can we purchase these testers?
egreenspot 11 months ago
@egreenspot - lessemf dot com
safeschool 9 months ago
Magdahavas... you are exposed to light radiation every day, right? well OMG you're going to get LIGHT CANCER!
Ignoring UV light, that statement is clearly absurd. But yet light is much more powerful than microwaves. Ultraviolet light is much more powerful than regular light, because its wavelengths are shorter. The longest wavelength of light is at least 1,333 times shorter than the shortest microwave wavelength. The evidence is not on your side.
IHateMadeUpNames 11 months ago
E = hv (E is energy, v is frequency)
Therefore, a photon of the most energetic microwave radiation has 1,333 times less energy than the least energetic Microwave radiation (1mm wavelength, although Wikipedia puts the lower bound more at 3mm).
and 3mm electromagnetic radiation, is like around 99 Gigahertz. I don't know of too many appliances that have that kind of output.
IHateMadeUpNames 11 months ago
if u cant hear ur child crying out then u dont need a child. people in the 1800's did not have this and yet the childern grew up just fine, technology will destroy man kind
ppsjsh 11 months ago
Actually, that is incorrect. The children in the 1800's did not grow up just fine. Infant and child mortality in the 1800's were many times higher then than it is today. A staggering number of babies and children never made it to adulthood. That is still the case in parts of the world that are significantly less technologically advanced. A lot of children do not grow up at all.
caseybeee 10 months ago
Unless you are David Blaine, how do you stick your hand in a microwave while it is on? Why doesn't bubble boy live longer? Red is showing "danger" on the meter? The meter looked a bit like something you can get on an infomercial for free with separate shipping and handling. If any of this more dangerous than a bucket of KFC? Not ignoring these concerns but the fear statements appear to be non-empirical but based upon a premise that ANY microwave radiation is dangerous.
mel1555 11 months ago 2
Cell phones emit microwaves, should we ban microwaves? Cars kill thousands of people, should we ban cars? Liberal ideology leads to death, malnutrition, and decay of mans mind, should we ban liberal ideology?
Can some one please explain to me how they have free computers in Switzerland? Did they sign a deal with the person that built them, the person that shipped them, and the person that set them up to do this all for free? If not I call BS on these free computers being free.
thebestsumoeva 1 year ago
@thebestsumoeva - The computers are not free. You get free internet access in swiss schools if you use wired instead of wireless internet connections. Swisscom is owned by the Swiss government and they want the schools to use a wired connection. You will also see many hotels only providing a wired internet connection. The swiss think different about wireless technology and have much higher safety standards. They warn the schools not to use wifi.
safeschool 9 months ago
@safeschool How do you consider something free when you pay over half your income for it? The Swiss can be as irrational as they'd like about the safety of wireless, but I assure you there is next to no evidence that wireless causes any problems. As a matter of fact microwaves are less energetic than visible radiation per photon. Just because the Swiss don't understand electromagnetic radiation doesn't mean the world should follow them.
thebestsumoeva 9 months ago
Where can I find one of those microwave meters?
GenTristan 1 year ago
Let's assume all is true. Why government people use this technologies. Why don't they ban this in their country.
patelbhavin27 1 year ago
@patelbhavin27
Governments should ban baby monitors that emit microwave radiation all the time. There is not need for them when they can be replaced with sound activated monitors that radiation only when a baby makes a sound to alert the parent. Designing safer products is a smarter way to use this technology.
magdahavas 1 year ago 5
@magdahavas why do we need baby monitorsor cell phones and towers? they didnt need all this 100 years ago and humans did just fine. just another way for the gov and companys to get more money
ppsjsh 11 months ago
@patelbhavin27 Riots are not uncommon these days. So, on their website - " there is no proof of microwave dangers BUT we highly suggest that you do this to lower the radiation just in case. How would you tell the public without being held to blame? People are now shooting government officials.
safeschool 1 year ago
@patelbhavin27
It would cause mass panic.
safeschool 1 year ago
@patelbhavin27 lol seriously... you must be a gringo ,p because... govmts don't work for you they work for industry and votes and telling you you can't have wi/fi is not a vote or business winning strategy.
aikomellow 1 year ago
@patelbhavin27
Why do people who know smoking is bad for them smoke?
magdahavas 1 year ago 17
@patelbhavin27 Perhaps it is because everybody is making money off of this including the governments!
DJALI1970 10 months ago
@patelbhavin27 Maybe they are just as stupid as the rest of us..
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
@patelbhavin27 Money
Skateb0ardS 9 months ago
microwaves heat water they don't give you cancer
BoeingNerd 1 year ago
@BoeingNerd dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
effyoutwob 1 year ago
@BoeingNerd
How do you know this? And how do you explain the single and double strand DNA breaks in rats exposed to microwave radiation for a few hours? How do you explain the interference with DNA repair mechanisms? We have evidence that microwave radiation can both promote and initiate cancer.
magdahavas 1 year ago 7
@magdahavas theres a difference in radio signals and nuclear material do radio waves give off alpha beta or gamma radiation? no
BoeingNerd 1 year ago
@magdahavas Nobody can dispute that microwaves (defined as electromagnetic waves 300MHz to 300GHz) CAN be harmful to human health, try sticking your hand in a microwave oven for example. But that's around 600-1200Watts at point-blank range, consumer WiFi kit is limited by law to 100mW MAXIMUM, which makes it 600,000 times less powerful than a microwave oven in the worst-case scenario, and 1.2million times less powerful on average. There is no proof that such low powers cause any harm whatsoever.
sl9sl9 1 year ago
@sl9sl9 " There is no proof that such low powers cause any harm whatsoever."
The ONLY way this conclusion was able to be reached was to CHOP the data at 10 years; it was proven the data was skewed in this manner and Australia too has negative research on cell phone level exposure.
"New" digital broadcasts were proven dangerous in Germany.
UnoRaza 1 year ago
@sl9sl9 m is for milli , only 1000 so it would be 6000 not 600000 times.
rickreed123 10 months ago
@magdahavas do the DNA strand break rats after prolonged exposure to radiation from router, or any other gadgets that we use today? i'm just wondering..
leonghk12 10 months ago
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gunzee1 9 months ago
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gunzee1 9 months ago
@magdahavas What kind of microwave radiation? The kind we use to nuke our food every day? If so, I can see rats being damaged. Where do you provide references to the information you have found?
gunzee1 9 months ago 3
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WinAllDayIsJesus 9 months ago
@BoeingNerd
we are made mostly of water
sykoben 11 months ago
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RonPaul2008dotcomluv 11 months ago
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RonPaul2008dotcomluv 11 months ago
@RonPaul2008dotcomluv Quit spreading *disproved*, 5 year old propaganda: snopes.com/science/microwave/plants.asp
p2pnoob 11 months ago
@BoeingNerd The body is 70% water...
0garry555 9 months ago
@BoeingNerd Microwaves are picked up by the receptors of the cells in the body and disturbs and manipulates how the cells work. Especially brain and nervcells.
Sailor757SWE 9 months ago
look at chemtrail 13 seconds in
33rdPatriot 1 year ago
I have a trifield meter, which I realize doesn't get very sensitive for microwaves, but I get high readings when I use my cellphone for both emf and microwaves, but barely detect either (especially microwaves which is basically zero on my meter) on my iPod touch. I think cellphones are MUCH higher, not comparable.
quadruplelatte 1 year ago
@quadruplelatte You missed the point - it's the baby monitors on 24/7 - You are not touching your iPAd 24 hours a day - remember what marge simpson said - "Think of the children"
safeschool 10 months ago
This is an absolutely top notch demonstration of the energy emitted from wireless devices.There is no doubt this technology has a adverse biological impact. Great work Dr. Havas.
onesafeplanet 1 year ago
On the issue of health effects of radio frequency waves, a large body of evidence now exists, and the international consensus is described in the references listed [on the physics website]. Based on these considerations, we do not believe that electromagnetic waves associated with WiFi in schools pose a health risk to children or teachers.
Profs Bill Atkinson, Peter Dawson, David Patton, Ralph Shiell,
Alan Slavin and Rachel Wortis
Members of the Department of Physics, Trent University
MrPeterboroughPete 1 year ago
I am watching all of Magda's videos and informing myself, so that I can share this with others. This is fairly new info, since Oct. 10th. Got my partner interested, works for the gas and electric co. who are now transfering everything to being wireless...all the meter readings done by the car going by which means that each service meter has its own radio transmitter. Will continue to watch the videos..sad that 2009 ones have only 729 views. Thank you for your reply Safeschool. We here no nothing
walkin7 1 year ago
It is still an issue here as to whether it is a health hazard. Big business rules as everywhere else.. I appreciate the work that Magda Havas is doing, but do question as to whether the average citizen will know or even care. Everyone has been dumbed down over the past decade into believing that there are no hazards and are dependant on them. If you tell them about this info, they will say that it is nothing but hysteria. This will be seen by English speaking in NA, but here??? Doubt it. lol
walkin7 1 year ago
I did go into the health site...and saw the info. None of this info gets to the general public. Ones that know about the hazards and have for years, look...the others don't. No information in the paper or on TV. As for the info from Swiss Com and schools, this is new as of Oct 10th, remains to be seen what actually gets done. For years this has been an issue, being told no safety hazards and now when everyone is using them, try to get them to change! My husband says it is necessary for the job.
walkin7 1 year ago
Now, living in Switzerland, and this information sounds good....but why don't the Swiss hear about it? Swiss Com selling cordless phones, wireless routers, etc., never giving any information to the consumer other than 'buy our products'... and that is all.
Antennas for Swiss Com, Sunrise, etc. on hospital roofs, what a laugh. Make it sound like we have so much info...we don't. We, the citizens, are laughed at, told that everything is ok, use the products. Health insurance 14% higher! Duping pl
walkin7 1 year ago
@walkin7 - On your swiss health site it seems that they do tell you about radiation from Dect phones - the type of baby monitors to use - how to be careful if you hold wifi in your hand - turn the Wifi off when you don't use it. Don't have the cell phone in the car ever. In the United States and Canada there are no warnings at all! You are so lucky to be able to buy a cordless phone/baby monitor that has no radiation. Not available in the States because they say radiation can't hurt!.
safeschool 1 year ago
This is terrific, Magda. I will share this with others, including family.
BurbankACTION 1 year ago
Great movie!
We need more such clear and (I want say it) calm manner submitted facts.
Thank You.
shidunce 1 year ago
HI
Very good presentation!
Thanks a lot!
amirb
amirborn 1 year ago
Great video! thanks a lot!
NoRadBlog 1 year ago
Well done Magda! this is a great video where bad radiation has been made visible. Its so difficult to explain people what it is al about ...because its not visible. I hope the Netherlands will listen ...thanks again.
Draadloosgeweld 1 year ago
Thank you so much, Magda, for making it so professionally and undeniably clear what we're up against. Keep up the good work and all the best from Germany!
icke11234 1 year ago