Why pay an insurance weasel money to deny you care? Canada has the best system ever. I have never waited for longer than it takes anyone who waits for a doctor's appointment. I have never paid a cent, aside from the taxes and deductions from my pay. I am thouroughly happy with my money going to help others get the same. Oooh socialism, less money for greedy insurance companies, call the cops, poor people are getting rich people's care.
@wordfaith77840 I hope you realize that your so-called, "far left radical democrats" are more right leaning than most other countries conservative parties.
she is stupid who would want insurance companies to run health care you see what they done to our country people dieing because they say no to people and kid who need operations and medicines at lease we could vote government out if that happens but not insurance executives I wonder if her business is a restaurant?
I think we've tried the free market system, and for quite sometime it was good. Unfortunately miss the BIGger version of yourself doesn't play by the rules. So you want us to give them more!? Also I little news the bulk of employment is not from small business's.
What the hell do you mean? Where is the corruption in the EPA? The only thing she would do is give control of it to corporate scumbags who would let everybody pollute way more and in worse ways.
Dumb people don't understand that if the government was reduced too much, institutions vital to the country like the EPA would be dismantled. If the EPA wasn't around, asshole companies like BP and Shell could make all the pollution they wanted, which would lead to cancer and heart and lung diseases for everyone, and probably causing everyone to die before the age of 50.
@bek12 It's a shame there aren't more people like you. If there were, the country would be a better place. If massachusetts seceded (ironic, because it's the opposite of texas and Rick Perry) it would be way better off than the rest of the country.
what a tea party bitch. she's part of the crowd that boos a soldier defending our country in iraq because he's gay, boos the fact that children of illegals can pay in state tuition, cheers at the mention of hundreds executed in texas and cheers the idea of someone dying because they're not insured. there's no need to carry on like that. and btw, when i hear an idiot say that health care is being rammed down their throat, it makes me wonder why the analogy of ramming something down a throat?
@utscav What a bunch of stupid projections you're making about this woman. She wants the government to not favor a few insurance companies, and to allow competition so people can afford insurance. Tort reform. She doesn't like the government's ideas about single payer insurance (which under law REQUIRES her participation via the use of government force). She said NOTHING about gay soldiers. I did not see her cheer about anyone dying. Go fuck yourself.
@baron8107 Are you serious? With no taxes, you'd have no police to enforce laws, no firemen, nobody to keep the roads clear, no military forces to defend us (or invade countries--no taxes might not be all bad!), no schools, a monsterous unemployment rate, prisoners would be running wild, no one to supply water or provide garbage pick-up. If you're thinking we should trust private companies to provide these essential services, you're nuts.
@mrbill2600 Same old rightie crap. You just said "NO F-blam!-ING TAXES!", and I responded that no taxes would be devastating, you asked why, and I explained. Your statement was not pertaining only to healthcare. There was no changing of the subject. I merely answered your question.
I hope you misspelled "collage" as a joke, but I somehow think you didn't.
@bek12 Ah so you caught my spell... then you have squandered a quarter mil and wasted four years of your productive life on drugs, pointless sex, abortions and being brain washed. Good luck with that degree and finding a good paying job.
After all what does an ol fart of 72 know about life, social justice or spreading the wealth simply because he's defended this country, paid for a home, cars, taxes, saved for his retirement, has no debt and is supporting the likes of you...
@mrbill2600 No, "old fart", you are not supporting the "likes of me". Sorry to say, I did not waste four years of my life "on drugs and sex". But yes, I went to college, used my degree, and don't need your "good luck" to find a paying job, because I've had one since I graduated two decades ago. I've got most of your accomplishments myself, plus more, so I'm not as impressed with you as you are yourself.
@bek12 all those things you mention could be supplied privately - or by voluntary taxation (donation). We don't need income taxes.
When taxes are extracted with the use of force, there will always be these arguments - i.e.how to spend it. Until you've had to write a check to the government (which is a criminal fucking mob) for 10k (of HARD EARNED MONEY) to pay for shit like WAR (killing children) and bailing out international banking sheisters then you have no idea.
@immayhem Well, the problem with your conservative mentality/theory is that 1) private/volunteer donations don't meet the needs of our CURRENT society, so what makes you think it would meet even more of the US's needs in your ideal low-government society?, and 2) Much of our military is already privatized, and yet amazingly, we still have war. Privatization would not make "WAR (killing children" go away.
My stance is this: the MIDDLE-CLASS needs a bailout, not corporations.
I don't think any of them get it. Your healthcare shouldn't be something you gamble with, and insurance is a gambling scam. And the choice of insurance companies available to her is controlled by the insurance companies themselves. Here's a better idea: single payer. Congress has it, the military has it, a dozen countries with better coverage for their citizens have it. Think it through, people...
@tgrigsby7 Of course single payer or universal healthcare is better,if there is a competent body to administer it. The Federal Worker Health plans are costly.Military is by necessity the only socialized healthcare in America. Yes many other developed nations have effective health care delivery systems that are not tied to employment.Americans are too easily fooled and afraid to ever get a good system from the evil crooks in DC. We are becoming a 3rd world nation owned by a few super rich.
@justcallmeassinine "We are becoming a 3rd world nation owned by a few super rich." I couldn't agree with that statement more. Although i would like to bring a different perspective. The Federal Government has been giving special handouts, deduction, and simply put, leading the economy astray. The same can be said about health care. My Parents remember a time when you didn't need insurance, because health care was affordable. What has changed sense the 50's? Government spending on health care.
@justcallmeassinine There cannot be a "competent body" to administer it. It would imply that there are others who know how to spend your money better than you do.
Is there anyone, in all the government, to whom you would entrust all your savings and income? Will they allocate it in a way that befits your needs...or theirs?
@toetapper04 All of your savings and income are not in your control,anyway tt. Even if you bury your savings or gold or whatever in your land or a vault,you are still subject to the decisions of the powerful people that run the world's corporations and governments. Your cash and yes even the gold and diamonds you hide are still subject to other's control you whether you admit it or not.Morality and greed of the most powerful is the issue.Lots of people thought homes were safety,remember ? Think.
We have more of a free market system here than in any other country on earth and everybody doesn't have insurance. The unregulated free market is at odds with giving workers insurance or reasonable salaries because? What she said: "Competition!" If companies are more profitable by denying insurance and insurance companies are more profitable by denying benefits, then they will do so until some other force comes into play. But, forget I said that, just follow the angry emotional business owner
@01andak health insurance is a scam. Why pay hundreds of dollars on premiums to have to pay thousands of dollars in copays? why not save that money in an interest bearing savings account for medical emergencies? That's what I do. I don't have health insurance, and don't want any.
If you hire the government to force others to give you what YOU want, you have no right to complain when others hire the government to force you to give them what THEY want.
If you hire the government to force others to give to the causes YOU believe necessary, you have no right to complain when others hire the government to force you to give to the causes THEY believe necessary.
If you can't handle FREEDOM, go live in your mommy's basement!
this is what happens when you have a lack of information about the industry and just running on emotion it sounded good but if she new the big picture she would be asking for a single payer not more health care companies looking to scam you...
Damn Liberal show ponies need to be booted from office. Government sucks as it is. Thank the lord for free thinking people like that lady for having the decency to stand up to them. The only insurance I have is my Military benefits. If that douche Odrama has his way I wouldn't even have that.
@warmwarmerdisco Tort reform to open up free market in the Insurance industry. That's what she's talking about. If you listened she even told us how many Insurance companies are in the US. Only having access to 6 of them drives the costs up because they know they can rake us over the coals and there ain't a damned thing we can do about it.
@Ceadderman tort reform reduces the amount a person can get from a lawsuit? am i right? don't be rude, i just want a solid explanation. is the argument that capping awards on lawsuits would lead to more competing insurance companies?
@warmwarmerdisco Tort is another term for law. You are correct in that it's commonly used regarding lawsuits and dollar amounts but it's also used in reference to other legal matters. Granted I'm not a lawyer, but that's how I understand it to be.
"A tort, in common law jurisdictions, is a wrong that involves a breach of a civil duty (other than a contractual duty) owed to someone else."
She is right in that we the people are owed a reform of law that would allow competition.
finally citizens speak up. But, I don't think socialistic California would change. The lay doesn't realize politicians are selectively choosing to be deaf on certain issues.
and if you made it single payer, you'd cut costs 30%, allowing everyone to have it at the price they could afford, based on income level. But, instead, we just get another right wing mouth, bitching about the problems she has that wouldn't be there if we had rational healthcare system like the rest of the free world does.
that woman is a freakin NUTJOB! Her screaming into the mic made her totally lose credibility to me. IF she did her homnework, she'd realize the problems of regulating and enforcing rules against out of state insurance companies doing business in her state. This is why states make strict requirements to do business in their state in order to protect their consumers. Geesh. What a knucklehead.
@AceOfHeart2012 Yeah, there defintely isn't any competition for the U.S. mailing system and the prison system. Sheep, go back to sleep. When capitalism goes nuts making private prisons in order to get cheap labor, that is when you have true tyranny. Before you open your ignorant mouth, read some damn news. Look up the private prisons in Florida.
@METALGEARSOL1D Woah Bro! Take the edge off. I don't know what I could have possibly said in two sentences that tripped your trigger enough to call me ignorant. Who exactly do think is behind the privatization of the prison system anyway? Don't answer that. You obviously do know. And I wasn't speaking. I was typing. There was no mouth involved. (And I'm ignorant?)
Shes right, we have a regulated insurance system where insurance companies are not allowed to compete over state boundaries. Its broken, and driving the costs way up. Its almost as if it was engineered by people who knew full well that monopolies drive up the costs and lower the quality of service.
Its interesting that the very same people that support Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest do not support that same theory when it comes to capitalism. Capitalism allows those that are better and more efficient to succeed. Of course, like the theory of natural selection, capitalism will not work unless governement gets out of the way, by easing regulations & closing loopholes that benefit only those that are politically well-connected (usually big, as opposed to small, businesses)
@redheadwrites You really think small business can compete with big insurance companies. NOT. Capitalism or "the entity" has no business in my health. I guess you would further venture to say that the 8 years under Bush (the conservative) philosophy is the foundation of how well things are today. True Obama/Demorats and Congress/Repugnicans are acting like children in a sandbox, but we elected those fools. WHAT IS THE D*** SOLUTION?
Crowds of know-nothings. The reason you only have insurance within the state and not across the nation is because THEN it would mean FEDERAL REGULATIONS on insurance. She's complaining about competition between 6 companies now....soon she will have the choice of only 3 nationally if they did this. And aren't these the people who stick their nose in the air about decision in far away Washington? Why would dealing with an out-of-state insurance provider be better? These people are dim.
Yeah, "competition" sure has helped the cell phone companies get better - LOL! Every single provider is a piece of SH!T! Competition is no cure-all this bumper sticker level of understanding is the hob-goblin of tiny minds. You could have ONE providers that is outstanding or 5 that all suck. "Competition" only works under certain conditions.
notice the woman sitting down next to the lady. when everyone applauds at the end, she does not...why ? oh .. she is wearing an OBAMA shirt, thats why.
even though i disagree with this woman as far as I am for national healthcare I agree it was put in place too quickly. I agree the pat answers you get from Congress people and senators offices are really lame.
@CogitoErgoSum182 Actually, her business STARTED that way, in 2002. Today the Flourchylde bakery is in downtown Novato. This is the way poor people become rich in America. They have a dream, they work hard, and they flourish without an intellectual elite, in a far-distant capitol, trying to plan their lives for them.
Competition was, still is, and always will be the most efficient and most equitable way to organize society.
@Pizuzuzimmer half educated huh? Are you a business owner? Always criticize that which you are probably unable to do. Just seeing your comment reminds me who the half-educated moron is.
@Pizuzuzimmer ok genius, you are right just money, not bookkeeping, payroll, inventory, long hours, healthcare, mortgage , taxes, goods and services, etc.. lol
That lady did an excellent job, to criticize her would be idiotic because she is right. Especially about tort reform. spend an hour or so looking at some of the batshit stupid lawsuits people file against small business who are just trying to extort money out of good honest people trying to run a business. Our system is setup to where its cheaper to "settle" regardless of how absurd or idiotic the alligation than to take it to court. Hell it could be 100% fabrication, still cheaper to settle.
I don't see the comment I made previously that slimwho commented on, but we do need to get back to something other than fiat money. The unceasing spending and debt (mostly to the Federal Reserve cartel) has disasterously expanded our money supply and it is really to come back to our shores as soon as the US dollar is no longer the world currency. Then there will be inflation like nothing we have ever experienced. What created this mess is unbridled spending and what creates that is fiat money.
She's right, we do need competition with the price-gouging, horrible private insurance companies. That's why we need to offer a Medicare buy-in for everyone and make these for-profit companies compete for our dollar. It would also remove the heavy burden of private health insurance off the backs of small businesses, like every other developed country in the world. Medicare is also much cheaper due to the low overhead costs (2% vs. avg. 24% in private sector) and greater efficiency.
@MattSingh1 She was simply voicing herself, she didn't disrespect anyone. Why does she have to be all that, im not being a smart in case you decide to think that way, its just a question.. Now if you cant reply respectfully please just disregard this. Thanks
@phillytouch She didn't disrespect anyone? So shouting, rather incoherently and unintelligibly, isn't rude and disrespectful? Clearly the only reason this buffoon went there was to (as most right-wingers do) get angry, yell, and accuse anyone that disagrees with them as being anti-American. People like this woman are pig-ignorant when it comes to the world around them, they're so ignorant in fact that they don't enough to know they don't know enough. They have both my contempt and ridicule.
Why does the title imply that the lady speaking "goes nuclear?" She made her points clearly and decisively--and sometimes loudly--but never descended to namecalling or profanity. The label must stem more from political opposition than from simple observation.
@w fmkk "class warfare" is a marxist concept, and by admitting that you believe in it you make yourself look like a marxist. we dont just pull these allegations out of thin air. advocating an agenda that argues for having the richest of us pay fora disproportionate amount of the burden in the name of fairness is a disincentive to be rich, simple as that. if you believe that class warfare exists, you are not a free market capitalist, class warfare is only touted by marxists criticizing capitalism
@wfmkk to your first point, that's because our current system gives disincentives to rich people to employ workers, by supporting powerful wage gauging unions and having high payroll/corporate taxes. your second point just sounds dumb because now more than 50% of american families own equity, and only 50% pay income taxes. those tend to be the same people, and if someone isn't paying income taxes, isn't retired, and isn't in the labor force, i dont care about their income.
I don't know what "points" of mine you think you are rebutting. If something "sounds dumb" to you, that's probably due to your lack of understanding. I make that observation based on the quality of your writing.
Regarding the middle class, listen and learn:
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Regarding the MYTH of the "free market," listen and learn:
@wfmkk i dont even need to look at those links. how am i brainwashed, you just proved my point in what you wrote. you called the free market a myth, which means you're probably a marxist. and at the same time you're the one talking about class warfare, im not brainwashed at all. you'll never hear a real capitalist talking about class warfare. marx uses the concept of class warfare more than anyone, and marxists tout it all the time to bring about the revolution of the proletariat, what your doin
@wfmkk you must have said something stupid about only the rich playing and reaping the rewards of the stock market, which is false. like i said, more than half of american families own equity, an the IRS reported in 2006 that 47% of capital gains declared were made by families with incomes under 50,000. so no, its not just the rich reaping rewards from the stock market. why dont you get off your ass and go create some wealth, instead of trying to take it from someone else. mercantilism is wrong!
Your statements about Marxism are exactly the kind of rhetoric one would expect from someone who has been *indoctrinated* and cannot think for himself. You have been brainwashed into thinking that anyone against capitalism must be a Marxist.
There is so much you apparently don't understand, but if you refuse to read what I put in front of your nose, then your situation is hopeless.
Since the collapse of the USSR, suicide rates in Eastern Europe have quadrupled. Since Russia embraced the Free Market, unemployment (which under previous Soviet leaders was 0%) rose substantially as the standard of living plummeted. I do not defend many Soviet policies, but with a functioning, modern Board of Trade to cultivate a responsiveness to consumer demand within a command economy, a public sector with both social security and incentive could exist and mankind would flourish. Marx ftw.
@PolandHello You think that kind of transition happens overnight...? It will take an entire generation for the old Soviet bloc states to figure out how to make capitalism work. Rome wasn't built in a day.
And as for free markets, heck, we don't even have a free market in the USA.
@carolm62 Well within 10 years of Socialism, Russia went from being a backward, quasi-capitalist dearth of prosperity, to a modern, industrialised superpower with a far greater productive capacity than even the USA, providing employment, welfare, education and social mobility to all Russians.
In the industrial auctions of the 90s, Russia sold its assetts to the only people who could afford them - drug-lords and mafiosos, who will never engender fair socio-economic development.
Why under mostly Republican policy while the economy has doubled in growth wages have remained flat except for a small percentage of American wealthy?
Why under mostly Republican policy have taxes gone down from almost 80% for those wealthy to 30%, and only 15% on capital gains which the majority of their income comes from? Meanwhile with their increased wealth has come increased influence in government and lobbying, and media propaganda to keep it that way?
"Rich Americans are not only shopping again. They're showing off their purchases, despite an economy that still leaves millions of people jobless and underemployed."
"The past two years have benefited Americans who primarily rely on income from investments rather than their jobs. The broad Standard & Poor's 500 stock index is up 61 percent since its March 2009 low ..."
The rich, as you call them, are rich because they work to make money. Saying that all rich people make their money by stealing from the poor is like saying that all poor people are lazy... offensive and self-deluding. Free market capitalism is the ONLY way to go, and overthinkers like Noam Chomsky are the ones brainwashing. Lasseiz faire worked for hundreds of years of American expansion. The only reason it's failing is because the government is interfering with it.
LOL ... yeah, thinking too much disrupts the libertoon nonsense that you just regurgitated.
Consider this typical scenario:
Bill Gates invests $10 million in the stock of Shutupand Workfaster, Inc. The profits of the corporation surge, especially due to the suppression of wages paid to its non-union workers, and Gates' $10 million turns into $12 million. How did Bill Gates "earn" that $2 million? By working hard, or hardly working?
@DRsideburns If you would listen you might gain some insight , shes trying say in so many words , that the level playing field in America is Gone .If you don,t see whats happening in this country because your blinded by money .then i feel sorry for you .For example Small Bus. can,t afford the rates .Big Corp. have all the money .chokes out comp. They have the money to get around Reg. If you don,t see how small Bus. in this country is being pushed aside your an idiot . you hear noam Chomsky no..
Wrong. The only time capitalism worked for everyone was during the period of 1945-1973 when Government was MASSIVELY involved with the economy. Prior to the New Deal, there was hardly a middle class, 35%+ poverty rate, and the rich owned virtually all of the nation's wealth. Additionally, the rich have most of their ill-gotten wealth by sheer robbery, since it is the American worker that produces the wealth that upper management and Wall Street parasites siphon off.
@slimhwo It's the Federal Reserve cartel via our elected officials who have siphoned off of America's middle class and imposed the most regressive tax of all; inflation. That said, it's the democrats who are the current champions of the massive borrowing on the backs of the American taxpayer. The only real solution is to go back to metal backed currency, end all of the government interference in the free market, and end the Federal Reserve Cartel.
I disagree. There was virtually no middle class prior to the Federal Reserve either, during the Robber Baron age of laissez-faire. The middle class has also been decimated the past 30 years, due to income distribution flowing almost entirely to the top, not inflation. We had inflation all throughout the Golden Age of 1945-1973, and the American middle class grew in wealth and wages along with productivity. Inflation almost always accompanies rising standards of living.
Life under the Gold Standard was absolutely horrific for the average American. Why do you think all the Populist movements were opposed to the Cross of Gold? Whether the Greenback Party or the silver bi-metallists, the common man understood that depressions and deflation was never good for the working man or the debtor (because wages go down while debt payments remain fixed). If you like gold, buy some for yourself, but don't destroy the rest of us by having the Government IMPOSE gold on us.
This woman should be in the hospice, not free on the street. I wonder what kind of business she has, may be the vudoo dolls. She got the microphone like she has a vibrator in in her hand almost did the blowjob on it.
SUCK IT GOP. HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. Like or not Vudoo Bitch!!!!!!!!
"There is more freedom in any moderately de-Stalinized dictatorship than there is in the ordinary American workplace. You find the same sort of hierarchy and discipline in an office or factory as you do in a prison or monastery. In fact, as Foucault and others have shown, prisons and factories came in at about the same time, and their operators consciously borrowed from each other's control techniques. A worker is a part time slave." -- Bob Black
"Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it." -- Mikhail Bakunin
"Here [in the U.S.] every word has taken on the opposite of its meaning elsewhere. So here 'libertarian' means extreme advocate of total tyranny. It means power ought to be given into the hands of private unaccountable tyrannies -- even worse than state tyrannies, because there the public has some kind of role."
"We have to start by decoding our whole system of intellectual distortion before we can even talk."
You wouldn't dare say that in front of workers, unless you had an armed thug by your side to protect you.
"agenda of the Marxist Socialist"
As if anyone not on board with the libertoon wing nuts must be a Communist. The only sinister "agenda" is the one in PLAIN VIEW -- the class war that the rich and their lackeys have been waging for the past 30 years.
"You wouldn't dare say that in front of workers, unless you had an armed thug by your side to protect you." I am a worker, so what are you talking about?
And yes, if you do not support a free market that provides consumers with choice then you are obviously not a supporter of liberty. Instead you'd prefer a system where govt chooses winners and losers, and success should be limited, if not punished, in order to "equalize" society, then you are a statist. Don't run from it. Own it!
Libertoons like you have a proclivity for the fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have swallowed whole the Cold War propaganda that the only alternative to capitalism (especially with the desire for zero regulation) must be state socialism. it's as if your stunted intellect cannot fathom anything else.
Whatever it is that you are ranting about is not Free Market Capitalism. So you are not a Capitalist, you're not arguing for capitalism. So then you are obviously arguing for something else.
Sounds like you have been swallowing alot of class warfare, marxist propoganda.
If not then you you're just an immature child pouting because someone has more toys than he does.
@EchoMike03 Your comments , and those of a few others, (too few) give me hope for the future. Best of luck to you all and: Watch your Back. They are out there!
Govt mandates and burdensome regualtions prevent insurance companies from operating efficiently, providing products that would benefit their customers more effectively, and pratcially eliminates competition which keeps prices higher not lower.
The free market system is a PURE DEMOCRACY where the free citizen, with choice, is able to vote everyday, and the ballot he casts is his currency.
In other words, money talks, and the rest of us can go *$&% ourselves. You call that "pure democracy"? I call it an Ayn Randian dystopia.
You and your ilk would like to take us all the way back to the 1880s -- that golden age of the Robber Barons, when capital was totally unregulated and there were no limits on exploitation.
"In other words, money talks, and the rest of us can go *$&% ourselves"
So I gather you have no money.
See I have a job, and I work for my "middle class" paycheck. I spend my money in establisments, and buy products by companies, who provide me the best value. It's called a market system. If you don't like a company then you don't have to give your dollar to them, you give it to their competitor who offers more value. It's your choice.
So high energy prices, high food prices, high unemployment, and a weak dollar and inflation help the middle class? When you prevent energy from being produced, energy prices go up. When you take food (corn) and turn it into fuel, and then add the high cost of fuel, food prices go up. When you print dollar bills like their monopoly money to pay for reckless govt spending the value of that dollar drops and therefore takes more dollars to buy the same products. Not helping!!!
"When under the pretext of fraternity, the legal code imposes mutual sacrifices on the citizens, human nature is not thereby abrogated. Everyone will then direct his efforts toward contributing little to, and taking much from, the common fund of sacrifices. Now, is it the most unfortunate who gains from this struggle? Certainly not, but rather the most influential and calculating. "
"Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism." - Bastiat
WTF... there are stupid people everywhere, and this woman is RETARD BITCH.... People like that should be in the jail or putting down as we put the dogs (to sleeping)
@glstexas Right, there are no guarantees. All I am advocating for is the fair treatment of workers and the environment. I don't believe in manditory employment, and I know companies abuse the system. I believe monopolies are unhealthy for an economy, and i'm not so happy about olichopolies either. I am very anti-big business, but i put workers rights on a higher pedestal. Government regulations give rights to the workers and keep the environment clean.
@glstexas And how does the customer decide on issues involving workers rights? It will always be cheaper for a company to treat their workers as they did in the late 1800's - early 1900's and this issue cannot be tackled by laissez faire economics. No negotiating wages, no strikes, children working in coal mines, etc are not standards i would like to see this nation go back to.
Looks like one of the serfs has figured out that scam of controlled preplanned econ. and is now learning the slave on slave mentality that keeps everyone enslaved. We don't have a free market, that is why econ. is breaking down. Using Gov regulation is the easiest way to get money (steal it from others with gun of gov.) being a small bus is too much like work. Better to go to Dick City, serve wall street & hide behind laws & use that to get rich, much easier. Real wealth creation=hard work.
this republican chant of small government doesn't have any substance, especially in a modern economy. It fails to see the fact that a companys only goal is profit. This incentive does wonders for some industrys but not for the prison industry or health care or policing or the countrys mail. They'll support whatever fox wants them to, never stepping back to see all the views/ policies are to keep the top 1 percent earning their billions, and soon to be trillions, in profits every year.
@MrJeggus
Jeggus is a cuntish name. You sound what a cunt sounds like. Cunt. Ha! Called you a cunt! My willy's as big as yours now!
5147848amp 1 month ago
Why pay an insurance weasel money to deny you care? Canada has the best system ever. I have never waited for longer than it takes anyone who waits for a doctor's appointment. I have never paid a cent, aside from the taxes and deductions from my pay. I am thouroughly happy with my money going to help others get the same. Oooh socialism, less money for greedy insurance companies, call the cops, poor people are getting rich people's care.
EattherichBuddy 1 month ago
Wow what greedy pitch that has no idea clue less paid right wingers
dog68691 1 month ago
ZOMG!!!!!! TORT REFORM!!!!!!!!!!! COMPETITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
kingnat2 2 months ago
Right answer to bad far left radical democrats won't listen, they're to focused on trying to mold America into a socialist style european nation
wordfaith77840 2 months ago
@wordfaith77840 I hope you realize that your so-called, "far left radical democrats" are more right leaning than most other countries conservative parties.
kennykenevil57 1 month ago
excellent........ finally one intelligent american citizen.... who understands the real problem!!!!
uranusisnotfunny 2 months ago
she is stupid who would want insurance companies to run health care you see what they done to our country people dieing because they say no to people and kid who need operations and medicines at lease we could vote government out if that happens but not insurance executives I wonder if her business is a restaurant?
fancyod 3 months ago
SHE ROCKS!!!!
lifeizcool 3 months ago
I think we've tried the free market system, and for quite sometime it was good. Unfortunately miss the BIGger version of yourself doesn't play by the rules. So you want us to give them more!? Also I little news the bulk of employment is not from small business's.
LongBow1600 3 months ago
this is what A VOICE sounds like!
punkylilkid 3 months ago 4
Epic. Well said.
DavidNBurnham 3 months ago
LOVE the END THE FED T-shirt!
JanColdwater 3 months ago
What the hell do you mean? Where is the corruption in the EPA? The only thing she would do is give control of it to corporate scumbags who would let everybody pollute way more and in worse ways.
AvatarSequelFTW 4 months ago
Dumb people don't understand that if the government was reduced too much, institutions vital to the country like the EPA would be dismantled. If the EPA wasn't around, asshole companies like BP and Shell could make all the pollution they wanted, which would lead to cancer and heart and lung diseases for everyone, and probably causing everyone to die before the age of 50.
AvatarSequelFTW 4 months ago
@AvatarSequelFTW Not dismantled, but restructured to work as it was orignally meant to work, after ridding it of corruption.
GreatestSingerEver01 4 months ago
@AvatarSequelFTW Vital to the country? You don't know shit about the EPA or the government.
WurledPeas 3 months ago
@bek12 It's a shame there aren't more people like you. If there were, the country would be a better place. If massachusetts seceded (ironic, because it's the opposite of texas and Rick Perry) it would be way better off than the rest of the country.
AvatarSequelFTW 4 months ago
AWESOME.
immayhem 4 months ago
what a tea party bitch. she's part of the crowd that boos a soldier defending our country in iraq because he's gay, boos the fact that children of illegals can pay in state tuition, cheers at the mention of hundreds executed in texas and cheers the idea of someone dying because they're not insured. there's no need to carry on like that. and btw, when i hear an idiot say that health care is being rammed down their throat, it makes me wonder why the analogy of ramming something down a throat?
utscav 4 months ago
@utscav What a bunch of stupid projections you're making about this woman. She wants the government to not favor a few insurance companies, and to allow competition so people can afford insurance. Tort reform. She doesn't like the government's ideas about single payer insurance (which under law REQUIRES her participation via the use of government force). She said NOTHING about gay soldiers. I did not see her cheer about anyone dying. Go fuck yourself.
immayhem 4 months ago
Her husband is obviously NOT "pleeeeezing" her enough -poor slob. Dude, u earned that BJ. :0
63supercobrajet 4 months ago
She delivered that perfectly. She got loud when she needed to!
smith45acp 4 months ago
Yeah, the free market is so good for people. Look where it has gotten us.
bek12 4 months ago
I'd like to be the next to hug her and thank her for this message..
toetapper04 4 months ago
Here's an idea: NO F-blam!-ING TAXES!
baron8107 4 months ago
@baron8107 Um, that's certainly an idea, if you don't mind your country completely collapsing into anarchy.
bek12 4 months ago
@bek12
How?
baron8107 4 months ago
@baron8107 Are you serious? With no taxes, you'd have no police to enforce laws, no firemen, nobody to keep the roads clear, no military forces to defend us (or invade countries--no taxes might not be all bad!), no schools, a monsterous unemployment rate, prisoners would be running wild, no one to supply water or provide garbage pick-up. If you're thinking we should trust private companies to provide these essential services, you're nuts.
bek12 4 months ago
@bek12 Same ol leftist crap... If you haven't any answer for the question at hand... why simply change the subject.
Watch the video again my collage educated friend and take note that the lady's subject was healthcare and healthcare only.
mrbill2600 4 months ago
@mrbill2600 Same old rightie crap. You just said "NO F-blam!-ING TAXES!", and I responded that no taxes would be devastating, you asked why, and I explained. Your statement was not pertaining only to healthcare. There was no changing of the subject. I merely answered your question.
I hope you misspelled "collage" as a joke, but I somehow think you didn't.
bek12 4 months ago
@bek12 Ah so you caught my spell... then you have squandered a quarter mil and wasted four years of your productive life on drugs, pointless sex, abortions and being brain washed. Good luck with that degree and finding a good paying job.
After all what does an ol fart of 72 know about life, social justice or spreading the wealth simply because he's defended this country, paid for a home, cars, taxes, saved for his retirement, has no debt and is supporting the likes of you...
mrbill2600 4 months ago 2
@mrbill2600 Damn Mr. Bill, go easy on him! Just kidding that was perfect old boy!
smith45acp 4 months ago
@mrbill2600 No, "old fart", you are not supporting the "likes of me". Sorry to say, I did not waste four years of my life "on drugs and sex". But yes, I went to college, used my degree, and don't need your "good luck" to find a paying job, because I've had one since I graduated two decades ago. I've got most of your accomplishments myself, plus more, so I'm not as impressed with you as you are yourself.
bek12 4 months ago
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mrbill2600 4 months ago
@bek12 all those things you mention could be supplied privately - or by voluntary taxation (donation). We don't need income taxes.
When taxes are extracted with the use of force, there will always be these arguments - i.e.how to spend it. Until you've had to write a check to the government (which is a criminal fucking mob) for 10k (of HARD EARNED MONEY) to pay for shit like WAR (killing children) and bailing out international banking sheisters then you have no idea.
immayhem 4 months ago
@immayhem Well, the problem with your conservative mentality/theory is that 1) private/volunteer donations don't meet the needs of our CURRENT society, so what makes you think it would meet even more of the US's needs in your ideal low-government society?, and 2) Much of our military is already privatized, and yet amazingly, we still have war. Privatization would not make "WAR (killing children" go away.
My stance is this: the MIDDLE-CLASS needs a bailout, not corporations.
bek12 4 months ago
I don't think any of them get it. Your healthcare shouldn't be something you gamble with, and insurance is a gambling scam. And the choice of insurance companies available to her is controlled by the insurance companies themselves. Here's a better idea: single payer. Congress has it, the military has it, a dozen countries with better coverage for their citizens have it. Think it through, people...
tgrigsby7 4 months ago
@tgrigsby7 Of course single payer or universal healthcare is better,if there is a competent body to administer it. The Federal Worker Health plans are costly.Military is by necessity the only socialized healthcare in America. Yes many other developed nations have effective health care delivery systems that are not tied to employment.Americans are too easily fooled and afraid to ever get a good system from the evil crooks in DC. We are becoming a 3rd world nation owned by a few super rich.
justcallmeassinine 4 months ago
@justcallmeassinine "We are becoming a 3rd world nation owned by a few super rich." I couldn't agree with that statement more. Although i would like to bring a different perspective. The Federal Government has been giving special handouts, deduction, and simply put, leading the economy astray. The same can be said about health care. My Parents remember a time when you didn't need insurance, because health care was affordable. What has changed sense the 50's? Government spending on health care.
asleeperj 4 months ago
@justcallmeassinine There cannot be a "competent body" to administer it. It would imply that there are others who know how to spend your money better than you do.
Is there anyone, in all the government, to whom you would entrust all your savings and income? Will they allocate it in a way that befits your needs...or theirs?
toetapper04 4 months ago
@toetapper04 All of your savings and income are not in your control,anyway tt. Even if you bury your savings or gold or whatever in your land or a vault,you are still subject to the decisions of the powerful people that run the world's corporations and governments. Your cash and yes even the gold and diamonds you hide are still subject to other's control you whether you admit it or not.Morality and greed of the most powerful is the issue.Lots of people thought homes were safety,remember ? Think.
justcallmeassinine 4 months ago
She makes alot of sense.
don417 4 months ago
Well said.
buisyman 4 months ago
We have more of a free market system here than in any other country on earth and everybody doesn't have insurance. The unregulated free market is at odds with giving workers insurance or reasonable salaries because? What she said: "Competition!" If companies are more profitable by denying insurance and insurance companies are more profitable by denying benefits, then they will do so until some other force comes into play. But, forget I said that, just follow the angry emotional business owner
01andak 4 months ago
@01andak health insurance is a scam. Why pay hundreds of dollars on premiums to have to pay thousands of dollars in copays? why not save that money in an interest bearing savings account for medical emergencies? That's what I do. I don't have health insurance, and don't want any.
buisyman 4 months ago
Nuclear? NEW CLEAR! Stop tryin to bash, when the woman is RIGHT!
flutternut4756 4 months ago
I shared this on FB...and said the title of the video is WRONG: She goes Constitutional Republic on CA Town HAll REAREND!
We need more folks like YOU! This was one of the best town hall videos I have ever seen!
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SullyAwesome 4 months ago
Fuck. Yeah!
skunkarific 5 months ago 3
GO, GIRL GO!
To all you Marxists:
If you hire the government to force others to give you what YOU want, you have no right to complain when others hire the government to force you to give them what THEY want.
If you hire the government to force others to give to the causes YOU believe necessary, you have no right to complain when others hire the government to force you to give to the causes THEY believe necessary.
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sgapplebee 5 months ago 3
this is what happens when you have a lack of information about the industry and just running on emotion it sounded good but if she new the big picture she would be asking for a single payer not more health care companies looking to scam you...
melskilove 5 months ago
u go gurl!
Tammicat21 5 months ago
@Tammicat21 1/3 on your spelling test. 1/2 on punctuation exam.
ostifari 5 months ago
Woman goes nuclear ? If that is nuclear then we need a worldwide meltdown. She was coherent and sensible.
justcallmeassinine 5 months ago 34
@justcallmeassinine
Have you ever heard the term "Nuclear Peace"?
LOL.
baron8107 4 months ago
@baron8107 No I have not. What is it ?
justcallmeassinine 4 months ago
@justcallmeassinine
Look it up, I'm too tired to talk.
But it's the best name for peaceful anger.
baron8107 4 months ago
Damn Liberal show ponies need to be booted from office. Government sucks as it is. Thank the lord for free thinking people like that lady for having the decency to stand up to them. The only insurance I have is my Military benefits. If that douche Odrama has his way I wouldn't even have that.
Ceadderman 5 months ago 2
i wish i knew exactly what she wants from tort reform. is she a doctor or summat?
warmwarmerdisco 5 months ago
@warmwarmerdisco Tort reform to open up free market in the Insurance industry. That's what she's talking about. If you listened she even told us how many Insurance companies are in the US. Only having access to 6 of them drives the costs up because they know they can rake us over the coals and there ain't a damned thing we can do about it.
Ceadderman 5 months ago
@Ceadderman tort reform reduces the amount a person can get from a lawsuit? am i right? don't be rude, i just want a solid explanation. is the argument that capping awards on lawsuits would lead to more competing insurance companies?
warmwarmerdisco 5 months ago
@warmwarmerdisco Tort is another term for law. You are correct in that it's commonly used regarding lawsuits and dollar amounts but it's also used in reference to other legal matters. Granted I'm not a lawyer, but that's how I understand it to be.
"A tort, in common law jurisdictions, is a wrong that involves a breach of a civil duty (other than a contractual duty) owed to someone else."
She is right in that we the people are owed a reform of law that would allow competition.
Ceadderman 5 months ago 2
finally citizens speak up. But, I don't think socialistic California would change. The lay doesn't realize politicians are selectively choosing to be deaf on certain issues.
xoxak888 5 months ago
I didn't See any Nuclear Fission reaction in this video -.-
Mikuruification 5 months ago
and if you made it single payer, you'd cut costs 30%, allowing everyone to have it at the price they could afford, based on income level. But, instead, we just get another right wing mouth, bitching about the problems she has that wouldn't be there if we had rational healthcare system like the rest of the free world does.
gkwedlund 5 months ago 2
Wow that was great, good for her.
grasso1117 5 months ago
that woman is a freakin NUTJOB! Her screaming into the mic made her totally lose credibility to me. IF she did her homnework, she'd realize the problems of regulating and enforcing rules against out of state insurance companies doing business in her state. This is why states make strict requirements to do business in their state in order to protect their consumers. Geesh. What a knucklehead.
mikeknight4u 5 months ago
The government doesn't want competition for itself. They're the true criminal class. The REAL syndicate.
AceOfHeart2012 5 months ago
@AceOfHeart2012 Yeah, there defintely isn't any competition for the U.S. mailing system and the prison system. Sheep, go back to sleep. When capitalism goes nuts making private prisons in order to get cheap labor, that is when you have true tyranny. Before you open your ignorant mouth, read some damn news. Look up the private prisons in Florida.
METALGEARSOL1D 5 months ago 2
@METALGEARSOL1D Woah Bro! Take the edge off. I don't know what I could have possibly said in two sentences that tripped your trigger enough to call me ignorant. Who exactly do think is behind the privatization of the prison system anyway? Don't answer that. You obviously do know. And I wasn't speaking. I was typing. There was no mouth involved. (And I'm ignorant?)
AceOfHeart2012 5 months ago
Lady, keep your panties on!!!
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HipHopNoobs 5 months ago
American's are selfish they are fucking selfish!!!!!
CassieDynomite 5 months ago
Shes right, we have a regulated insurance system where insurance companies are not allowed to compete over state boundaries. Its broken, and driving the costs way up. Its almost as if it was engineered by people who knew full well that monopolies drive up the costs and lower the quality of service.
RiotHouseLP 5 months ago 2
About dawm time!!!
JMCastle50 5 months ago
ladies and gentlemen: TESTICLES! that's all
gandalf117 5 months ago
Its interesting that the very same people that support Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest do not support that same theory when it comes to capitalism. Capitalism allows those that are better and more efficient to succeed. Of course, like the theory of natural selection, capitalism will not work unless governement gets out of the way, by easing regulations & closing loopholes that benefit only those that are politically well-connected (usually big, as opposed to small, businesses)
redheadwrites 5 months ago
@redheadwrites You really think small business can compete with big insurance companies. NOT. Capitalism or "the entity" has no business in my health. I guess you would further venture to say that the 8 years under Bush (the conservative) philosophy is the foundation of how well things are today. True Obama/Demorats and Congress/Repugnicans are acting like children in a sandbox, but we elected those fools. WHAT IS THE D*** SOLUTION?
paconot 5 months ago
Crowds of know-nothings. The reason you only have insurance within the state and not across the nation is because THEN it would mean FEDERAL REGULATIONS on insurance. She's complaining about competition between 6 companies now....soon she will have the choice of only 3 nationally if they did this. And aren't these the people who stick their nose in the air about decision in far away Washington? Why would dealing with an out-of-state insurance provider be better? These people are dim.
catothewiser 5 months ago
Yeah, "competition" sure has helped the cell phone companies get better - LOL! Every single provider is a piece of SH!T! Competition is no cure-all this bumper sticker level of understanding is the hob-goblin of tiny minds. You could have ONE providers that is outstanding or 5 that all suck. "Competition" only works under certain conditions.
catothewiser 5 months ago
notice the woman sitting down next to the lady. when everyone applauds at the end, she does not...why ? oh .. she is wearing an OBAMA shirt, thats why.
reconomyrestore 5 months ago
even though i disagree with this woman as far as I am for national healthcare I agree it was put in place too quickly. I agree the pat answers you get from Congress people and senators offices are really lame.
ilovegoth 6 months ago
I assume her small business she is talking about is her home kitchen
CogitoErgoSum182 6 months ago
@CogitoErgoSum182 Actually, her business STARTED that way, in 2002. Today the Flourchylde bakery is in downtown Novato. This is the way poor people become rich in America. They have a dream, they work hard, and they flourish without an intellectual elite, in a far-distant capitol, trying to plan their lives for them.
Competition was, still is, and always will be the most efficient and most equitable way to organize society.
bajaman92075 6 months ago
I think she got a phantom boner.....
falgorian1 6 months ago
You go girl!! lol
skiluinamso 6 months ago
awesome lady....I wish more Americans knew who to be pissed off at though....
tomjunk1965 6 months ago
Right, half-educated screaming crazy woman, let's listen to YOUR views on how to run a society. That'll work out well.
Pizuzuzimmer 6 months ago
@Pizuzuzimmer half educated huh? Are you a business owner? Always criticize that which you are probably unable to do. Just seeing your comment reminds me who the half-educated moron is.
Panchee123 5 months ago
@Panchee123
And you think owning a business requires education or intelligence? All it requires is CAPITAL, you cretin.
Pizuzuzimmer 5 months ago
@Pizuzuzimmer depends what your running. A crafts store? Or an IT business?
Mcrichalot12 5 months ago
@Pizuzuzimmer ok genius, you are right just money, not bookkeeping, payroll, inventory, long hours, healthcare, mortgage , taxes, goods and services, etc.. lol
Panchee123 5 months ago
It is some who can not use there intelligent to discuss this usual and is the same in our Government
theleftrstupid 6 months ago
It would be great to have more people like this who stand up for themselves instead of kowtowing to crap put out by politicians and pundits.
jimira99 6 months ago
That lady did an excellent job, to criticize her would be idiotic because she is right. Especially about tort reform. spend an hour or so looking at some of the batshit stupid lawsuits people file against small business who are just trying to extort money out of good honest people trying to run a business. Our system is setup to where its cheaper to "settle" regardless of how absurd or idiotic the alligation than to take it to court. Hell it could be 100% fabrication, still cheaper to settle.
xinecallaw 6 months ago
I don't see the comment I made previously that slimwho commented on, but we do need to get back to something other than fiat money. The unceasing spending and debt (mostly to the Federal Reserve cartel) has disasterously expanded our money supply and it is really to come back to our shores as soon as the US dollar is no longer the world currency. Then there will be inflation like nothing we have ever experienced. What created this mess is unbridled spending and what creates that is fiat money.
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VeniVidiAmavi 6 months ago
She's right.
classicalbunny 6 months ago 2
She's right, we do need competition with the price-gouging, horrible private insurance companies. That's why we need to offer a Medicare buy-in for everyone and make these for-profit companies compete for our dollar. It would also remove the heavy burden of private health insurance off the backs of small businesses, like every other developed country in the world. Medicare is also much cheaper due to the low overhead costs (2% vs. avg. 24% in private sector) and greater efficiency.
slimhwo 6 months ago
Wow...how dare she stand up to the marxist "leaders" in Marin county.
Obviously she does not know that she is supposed to shut up and do as she is told by the gov't.
DBAmichael 6 months ago 2
Love it, i wish i was able to see who she was talking to while she was going off on them hehe.. TWO THUMBS UP Ms,Lady
phillytouch 6 months ago
That wasn't a question. And she doesn't need to shout, she's using a microphone. Fail, right-wing crypto-Nazi.
MattSingh1 6 months ago
@MattSingh1 She was simply voicing herself, she didn't disrespect anyone. Why does she have to be all that, im not being a smart in case you decide to think that way, its just a question.. Now if you cant reply respectfully please just disregard this. Thanks
phillytouch 6 months ago
@phillytouch She didn't disrespect anyone? So shouting, rather incoherently and unintelligibly, isn't rude and disrespectful? Clearly the only reason this buffoon went there was to (as most right-wingers do) get angry, yell, and accuse anyone that disagrees with them as being anti-American. People like this woman are pig-ignorant when it comes to the world around them, they're so ignorant in fact that they don't enough to know they don't know enough. They have both my contempt and ridicule.
MattSingh1 6 months ago
Many states have motto's or historical sayings, Missouri is the "show me" state,
New Hampshire's the "live free or die" state and Florida's "the sunshine state".
My state “California" was once called the "Golden State" it was truly a model for all others, but not anymore.
Today our biggest export is our own industry and jobs moving to Texas, or anywhere but here!!!
I purpose a new motto “The State of Confusion" it’s a little insulting but quite accurate.
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singledad1234 6 months ago
Why does the title imply that the lady speaking "goes nuclear?" She made her points clearly and decisively--and sometimes loudly--but never descended to namecalling or profanity. The label must stem more from political opposition than from simple observation.
jeglpz 6 months ago 2
@w fmkk "class warfare" is a marxist concept, and by admitting that you believe in it you make yourself look like a marxist. we dont just pull these allegations out of thin air. advocating an agenda that argues for having the richest of us pay fora disproportionate amount of the burden in the name of fairness is a disincentive to be rich, simple as that. if you believe that class warfare exists, you are not a free market capitalist, class warfare is only touted by marxists criticizing capitalism
Welsh77 6 months ago
@wfmkk to your first point, that's because our current system gives disincentives to rich people to employ workers, by supporting powerful wage gauging unions and having high payroll/corporate taxes. your second point just sounds dumb because now more than 50% of american families own equity, and only 50% pay income taxes. those tend to be the same people, and if someone isn't paying income taxes, isn't retired, and isn't in the labor force, i dont care about their income.
Welsh77 7 months ago
@Welsh77
I don't know what "points" of mine you think you are rebutting. If something "sounds dumb" to you, that's probably due to your lack of understanding. I make that observation based on the quality of your writing.
Regarding the middle class, listen and learn:
watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A
Regarding the MYTH of the "free market," listen and learn:
watch?v=wriQGI5NGOM
"disincentive to be rich" ... is good
"class warfare is only touted by marxists"
You appear to be brainwashed.
wfmkk 6 months ago
@wfmkk i dont even need to look at those links. how am i brainwashed, you just proved my point in what you wrote. you called the free market a myth, which means you're probably a marxist. and at the same time you're the one talking about class warfare, im not brainwashed at all. you'll never hear a real capitalist talking about class warfare. marx uses the concept of class warfare more than anyone, and marxists tout it all the time to bring about the revolution of the proletariat, what your doin
Welsh77 6 months ago
@wfmkk you must have said something stupid about only the rich playing and reaping the rewards of the stock market, which is false. like i said, more than half of american families own equity, an the IRS reported in 2006 that 47% of capital gains declared were made by families with incomes under 50,000. so no, its not just the rich reaping rewards from the stock market. why dont you get off your ass and go create some wealth, instead of trying to take it from someone else. mercantilism is wrong!
Welsh77 6 months ago
@Welsh77
"i dont even need to look at those links"
That's called wallowing in ignorance.
"How am I brainwashed?"
Your statements about Marxism are exactly the kind of rhetoric one would expect from someone who has been *indoctrinated* and cannot think for himself. You have been brainwashed into thinking that anyone against capitalism must be a Marxist.
There is so much you apparently don't understand, but if you refuse to read what I put in front of your nose, then your situation is hopeless.
wfmkk 6 months ago
This video should be renamed: "Economics 101".
theurbansurvivalist1 7 months ago
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 7 months ago
Watch my video Statism Is Slavery... explains it all.
mikeshanklin 7 months ago
Awesomeness!
carolm62 7 months ago
At 1:09 you can hear that democrat birch say "you did not"
Thekingswa747 7 months ago 2
Since the collapse of the USSR, suicide rates in Eastern Europe have quadrupled. Since Russia embraced the Free Market, unemployment (which under previous Soviet leaders was 0%) rose substantially as the standard of living plummeted. I do not defend many Soviet policies, but with a functioning, modern Board of Trade to cultivate a responsiveness to consumer demand within a command economy, a public sector with both social security and incentive could exist and mankind would flourish. Marx ftw.
PolandHello 7 months ago
@PolandHello You think that kind of transition happens overnight...? It will take an entire generation for the old Soviet bloc states to figure out how to make capitalism work. Rome wasn't built in a day.
And as for free markets, heck, we don't even have a free market in the USA.
carolm62 7 months ago
@carolm62 Well within 10 years of Socialism, Russia went from being a backward, quasi-capitalist dearth of prosperity, to a modern, industrialised superpower with a far greater productive capacity than even the USA, providing employment, welfare, education and social mobility to all Russians.
In the industrial auctions of the 90s, Russia sold its assetts to the only people who could afford them - drug-lords and mafiosos, who will never engender fair socio-economic development.
PolandHello 7 months ago
@PolandHello Nope.
idiotika 7 months ago
...she's a small business owner
dakotahnova 7 months ago
Why under mostly Republican policy while the economy has doubled in growth wages have remained flat except for a small percentage of American wealthy?
Why under mostly Republican policy have taxes gone down from almost 80% for those wealthy to 30%, and only 15% on capital gains which the majority of their income comes from? Meanwhile with their increased wealth has come increased influence in government and lobbying, and media propaganda to keep it that way?
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wfmkk 7 months ago 6
The rich, as you call them, are rich because they work to make money. Saying that all rich people make their money by stealing from the poor is like saying that all poor people are lazy... offensive and self-deluding. Free market capitalism is the ONLY way to go, and overthinkers like Noam Chomsky are the ones brainwashing. Lasseiz faire worked for hundreds of years of American expansion. The only reason it's failing is because the government is interfering with it.
DRsideburns 6 months ago
@DRsideburns
"overthinkers like Noam Chomsky"
LOL ... yeah, thinking too much disrupts the libertoon nonsense that you just regurgitated.
Consider this typical scenario:
Bill Gates invests $10 million in the stock of Shutupand Workfaster, Inc. The profits of the corporation surge, especially due to the suppression of wages paid to its non-union workers, and Gates' $10 million turns into $12 million. How did Bill Gates "earn" that $2 million? By working hard, or hardly working?
wfmkk 6 months ago
@DRsideburns If you would listen you might gain some insight , shes trying say in so many words , that the level playing field in America is Gone .If you don,t see whats happening in this country because your blinded by money .then i feel sorry for you .For example Small Bus. can,t afford the rates .Big Corp. have all the money .chokes out comp. They have the money to get around Reg. If you don,t see how small Bus. in this country is being pushed aside your an idiot . you hear noam Chomsky no..
ikesterman1 6 months ago
@DRsideburns
Wrong. The only time capitalism worked for everyone was during the period of 1945-1973 when Government was MASSIVELY involved with the economy. Prior to the New Deal, there was hardly a middle class, 35%+ poverty rate, and the rich owned virtually all of the nation's wealth. Additionally, the rich have most of their ill-gotten wealth by sheer robbery, since it is the American worker that produces the wealth that upper management and Wall Street parasites siphon off.
slimhwo 6 months ago
@slimhwo It's the Federal Reserve cartel via our elected officials who have siphoned off of America's middle class and imposed the most regressive tax of all; inflation. That said, it's the democrats who are the current champions of the massive borrowing on the backs of the American taxpayer. The only real solution is to go back to metal backed currency, end all of the government interference in the free market, and end the Federal Reserve Cartel.
classicalbunny 6 months ago
@classicalbunny
I disagree. There was virtually no middle class prior to the Federal Reserve either, during the Robber Baron age of laissez-faire. The middle class has also been decimated the past 30 years, due to income distribution flowing almost entirely to the top, not inflation. We had inflation all throughout the Golden Age of 1945-1973, and the American middle class grew in wealth and wages along with productivity. Inflation almost always accompanies rising standards of living.
slimhwo 6 months ago
Life under the Gold Standard was absolutely horrific for the average American. Why do you think all the Populist movements were opposed to the Cross of Gold? Whether the Greenback Party or the silver bi-metallists, the common man understood that depressions and deflation was never good for the working man or the debtor (because wages go down while debt payments remain fixed). If you like gold, buy some for yourself, but don't destroy the rest of us by having the Government IMPOSE gold on us.
slimhwo 6 months ago
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WONDOCTORJ 7 months ago
This woman should be in the hospice, not free on the street. I wonder what kind of business she has, may be the vudoo dolls. She got the microphone like she has a vibrator in in her hand almost did the blowjob on it.
SUCK IT GOP. HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. Like or not Vudoo Bitch!!!!!!!!
ETELENA1 7 months ago
"There is more freedom in any moderately de-Stalinized dictatorship than there is in the ordinary American workplace. You find the same sort of hierarchy and discipline in an office or factory as you do in a prison or monastery. In fact, as Foucault and others have shown, prisons and factories came in at about the same time, and their operators consciously borrowed from each other's control techniques. A worker is a part time slave." -- Bob Black
wfmkk 7 months ago 4
"Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it." -- Mikhail Bakunin
wfmkk 7 months ago
watch?v=wriQGI5NGOM
"Here [in the U.S.] every word has taken on the opposite of its meaning elsewhere. So here 'libertarian' means extreme advocate of total tyranny. It means power ought to be given into the hands of private unaccountable tyrannies -- even worse than state tyrannies, because there the public has some kind of role."
"We have to start by decoding our whole system of intellectual distortion before we can even talk."
-- Noam Chomsky
wfmkk 7 months ago
You know what I see when I read most of the comments out here?
A severe case of jealousy, with a large helping of laziness laddled over the top.
Fuck the statist agenda of the Marxist Socialist
I'll earn my own damn way thank you very much
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03
"laziness"
You wouldn't dare say that in front of workers, unless you had an armed thug by your side to protect you.
"agenda of the Marxist Socialist"
As if anyone not on board with the libertoon wing nuts must be a Communist. The only sinister "agenda" is the one in PLAIN VIEW -- the class war that the rich and their lackeys have been waging for the past 30 years.
wfmkk 7 months ago 9
@wfmkk
"You wouldn't dare say that in front of workers, unless you had an armed thug by your side to protect you." I am a worker, so what are you talking about?
And yes, if you do not support a free market that provides consumers with choice then you are obviously not a supporter of liberty. Instead you'd prefer a system where govt chooses winners and losers, and success should be limited, if not punished, in order to "equalize" society, then you are a statist. Don't run from it. Own it!
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03
Libertoons like you have a proclivity for the fallacy of the false dichotomy. You have swallowed whole the Cold War propaganda that the only alternative to capitalism (especially with the desire for zero regulation) must be state socialism. it's as if your stunted intellect cannot fathom anything else.
wfmkk 7 months ago 2
@wfmkk
Whatever it is that you are ranting about is not Free Market Capitalism. So you are not a Capitalist, you're not arguing for capitalism. So then you are obviously arguing for something else.
Sounds like you have been swallowing alot of class warfare, marxist propoganda.
If not then you you're just an immature child pouting because someone has more toys than he does.
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03
What would you know about Marx, other than libertoon nonsense?
wfmkk 7 months ago
@EchoMike03
"immature child"
Fresh out of mirrors are you?
wfmkk 7 months ago
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@wfmkk
Wow.
Are you holding on to the "I'm rubber, you're glue" defense for later?
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03 Your comments , and those of a few others, (too few) give me hope for the future. Best of luck to you all and: Watch your Back. They are out there!
McPlenny 7 months ago
@McPlenny
"Watch your back."
Indeed. You'll need a full-blown military state to protect your ass from the wrath of those in poverty.
wfmkk 7 months ago
@wfmkk
That sounds like a threat of violence to me.
EchoMike03 7 months ago
Someone give this woman a medal!!!!!
Govt mandates and burdensome regualtions prevent insurance companies from operating efficiently, providing products that would benefit their customers more effectively, and pratcially eliminates competition which keeps prices higher not lower.
The free market system is a PURE DEMOCRACY where the free citizen, with choice, is able to vote everyday, and the ballot he casts is his currency.
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03
"ballot he casts is his currency"
In other words, money talks, and the rest of us can go *$&% ourselves. You call that "pure democracy"? I call it an Ayn Randian dystopia.
You and your ilk would like to take us all the way back to the 1880s -- that golden age of the Robber Barons, when capital was totally unregulated and there were no limits on exploitation.
wfmkk 7 months ago
@wfmkk
"In other words, money talks, and the rest of us can go *$&% ourselves"
So I gather you have no money.
See I have a job, and I work for my "middle class" paycheck. I spend my money in establisments, and buy products by companies, who provide me the best value. It's called a market system. If you don't like a company then you don't have to give your dollar to them, you give it to their competitor who offers more value. It's your choice.
You're funny
EchoMike03 7 months ago
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 7 months ago
@HUMANSAREBENEATHME
So high energy prices, high food prices, high unemployment, and a weak dollar and inflation help the middle class? When you prevent energy from being produced, energy prices go up. When you take food (corn) and turn it into fuel, and then add the high cost of fuel, food prices go up. When you print dollar bills like their monopoly money to pay for reckless govt spending the value of that dollar drops and therefore takes more dollars to buy the same products. Not helping!!!
EchoMike03 7 months ago
@EchoMike03 <--Stupid Teabagger or Koch industries paid internet troll.
GOP=FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 7 months ago
@HUMANSAREBENEATHME
Excellent ,well thought out, articualte response.
Pretty much what I expected
EchoMike03 7 months ago
"When under the pretext of fraternity, the legal code imposes mutual sacrifices on the citizens, human nature is not thereby abrogated. Everyone will then direct his efforts toward contributing little to, and taking much from, the common fund of sacrifices. Now, is it the most unfortunate who gains from this struggle? Certainly not, but rather the most influential and calculating. "
- Frederic Bastiat, THE LAW
cowbot2 7 months ago
"Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, minimum wages, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole—with their common aim of legal plunder—constitute socialism." - Bastiat
cowbot2 7 months ago
yup...when the shit hits the fan, she will be the first guest of the FEMA camps :)
acenspades 7 months ago
WTF... there are stupid people everywhere, and this woman is RETARD BITCH.... People like that should be in the jail or putting down as we put the dogs (to sleeping)
ETELENA1 7 months ago
@ETELENA1 Try to relax and form a coherent post one day, Genius! An education might help. MIGHT.
idiotika 7 months ago
WTF... there are stupid people everywhere, and this woman is RETARD BITCH....
ETELENA1 7 months ago
Where does all the faith in the free market come from? I am honestly just asking.
morph628 7 months ago
@glstexas Right, there are no guarantees. All I am advocating for is the fair treatment of workers and the environment. I don't believe in manditory employment, and I know companies abuse the system. I believe monopolies are unhealthy for an economy, and i'm not so happy about olichopolies either. I am very anti-big business, but i put workers rights on a higher pedestal. Government regulations give rights to the workers and keep the environment clean.
TheSeantague 7 months ago
@glstexas And how does the customer decide on issues involving workers rights? It will always be cheaper for a company to treat their workers as they did in the late 1800's - early 1900's and this issue cannot be tackled by laissez faire economics. No negotiating wages, no strikes, children working in coal mines, etc are not standards i would like to see this nation go back to.
TheSeantague 7 months ago
Looks like one of the serfs has figured out that scam of controlled preplanned econ. and is now learning the slave on slave mentality that keeps everyone enslaved. We don't have a free market, that is why econ. is breaking down. Using Gov regulation is the easiest way to get money (steal it from others with gun of gov.) being a small bus is too much like work. Better to go to Dick City, serve wall street & hide behind laws & use that to get rich, much easier. Real wealth creation=hard work.
LibertyJedi 7 months ago
What was the point of this? To get all the populist claps from yet another gormless American audience?...just clapping away like retarded seals.
pacmandem 7 months ago
Conservatives are traitors to the Middle Class, keep working fro Corporate America, fools.
777Atheist 7 months ago
this republican chant of small government doesn't have any substance, especially in a modern economy. It fails to see the fact that a companys only goal is profit. This incentive does wonders for some industrys but not for the prison industry or health care or policing or the countrys mail. They'll support whatever fox wants them to, never stepping back to see all the views/ policies are to keep the top 1 percent earning their billions, and soon to be trillions, in profits every year.
pawndominance1 7 months ago