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  • i have a high point 40 and i love it u gotta keep it clean and only hold 9 rounds in stead of 10 in it were r u buying ur guns from????

  • They make a great boat anchor.

  • @AKRider013 Noted! :)

  • with a high point...your better off just throwing a handful of bullets at yor attacker and hoping for the best!

  • @adworthy You could just throw the gun. It's massive like a brick!

  • Hi point makes total junk. The sub $200 price on this gun should be a big red flag to anyone considering a purchase. If you can't afford a Glock or a Colt, at least wait until your next pay check and upgrade to a reliable Taurus or Ruger.

  • @scruffymeigs i own one of every gun you stated and will still take the hi-point.. . you say reliable. 1000 rounds and only 3 jams in my HP (using promag 15 round), my glock has had 10 stove pipes in that time. my 45-70 revolver is only pistol i own that has never failed in 3,000 rounds. so i guess show me a semi auto that has never had a failure ever and ill take 2.

  • Send it in, get it fixed, get a free magazine. Geez, what's so hard about that?

  • Sure... go through the hassle of shipping a gun, spend 12 bucks or so additional on shipping, wait forever for it to return... OR... buy something that is right and will work right out of the box?! Hmm...

  • @ejlister sure you can buy a gun that you wont get get for like 1 week and spend 500 plus dollars on or... you can send that in get your gun back get a free mag spend 10 dollars in shiping and get your gun back in 5 days? your choice.

  • @SuperDylanv If I hadn't had the option of upgrading, I probably would have sent it in. Confidence in your weapon is important.

  • hey guys i just bought a 9mm high point ive been doing research and it doesnt seem like to bad of a handgun lets hope it works

  • I got one its pretty good I put the peep sight on it and I like it.

  • A defective Hi Point? imagine that..........

  • you wont post this becasuse you know its true, 45 and 40 made in different factories

  • thats funny the 40 and 45 are made in different factories?????

  • ummmm who would buy a hi-point?

  • @Doggieman1111 anyone who has more brains then money. Anyone who knows there isnt a semi auto with 100% reliability. Anyone who wont argue that a poly frame is bad when so many other guns have one and are 9x the price. Someone with a dozen night stands. someone who likes a modern take on one of the greatest gun innovations ever in its original form 100 years laters.... so many things could go on and on... who wouldnt buy a hi-point is the question. the only answer would be a hater...

  • You won't approve any comment with profanity but you use the word "Shit" at the end of your video. You're a hypocrite.

    So far so good with my new Hi Point C-9.

  • Duly noted. :)

  • well shit lol

  • So apparently, they make Shit and you buy it.

  • i ran 400 rounds thru my 45 jhp only prob i had was 2 bad primers

  • Give me a break! FBI would not issue a gun you cant even dissassemble

  • Give them a break, the have lifetime warranty.

  • those guns are shit even by low standards

  • I work in a gun store.And we do not carry Hi-point because there shit.

  • Maybe you don't carry them because they DO work and at the price point, you can't mark 'em up enough to screw over people with absurd profit margins????

  • Did you inspect the weapon before you brought it home?

    I only ask because if you inspected the weapon at the store (which you should always do), maybe you would've found the safety was defective there, and you wouldn't have wasted the trip home.

    Sorry to hear about your Hi-Point experience. My Hi-Point runs perfectly, and I have no regrets purchasing mine.

    I will say that Hi-Points are no different from any other brand name. Other brands have defects too. No one is perfect regardless of price.

  • i thought my .40's safety was defective too but then i realized i was being a bitch. it's not that hard to slide it up. send me your pistol i'll slide the safety up for you. and if they were so shitty why does the FBI issue them to their agents?

  • because there cheap

  • Thought u werent gonna approve comments such as the one below me

  • It is quite simple, Hi Points are cheaply made firearms, no matter how you spin the words, they are fucking terrible.

    Save your money and buy a decent gun.

    They are under $200 for a reason!

  • Bad luck. I bought mine because the site I was ordering from was out of stock of everything else. Got it for ~$120. Fired maybe three hundred if that. Had 3 jams total. I'm happy with mine. Happy shooting.

  • because that shit is gay fool. dont buy a fucking hi point and start bitching about it? you know what you bought. hi points are garbage

  • Well he obviously knows that now

  • "and bought a reliable and accurate Taurus." LOL

  • acualy my hi oint has been more reliable than my glock so i think its the dealer ur buying them from

  • iv had my hi point for 3 months put about 500 or round through it... not a single problem.

  • LMFAO, "so apparently, they make shit, sooo stay away!"

    Man I couldnt agree with you more. I'm always advising people not to waste money on these garbage guns, especially those who wish to use them as a carry gun.

  • i got a hipoint for 50 bucks same one i rarely used it but i have had no problems but its a cheap gun wat u think its gonna fall apart sometime lol

  • do they really suck this bad?they sell those here in cali for 160 bucks.i know the price should tell us all lol.but really are they all bad or just one in a thousand?

  • THEY BLOW!

  • I have shot a 9mm pistol and carbine and they have been ok. I don't recommend the pistols for concealed carry. Just cheap guns to plink with. The carbine has had 3000 rds + through it with few problems (jams)

  • Ive never had any problems with hi points

  • Great! It is because you've never owned one? :)

  • I love my hi point 40 cal... I've only had it jam when I used cheap crap ammo... steel cased wolf. even when I use the $12/box of 50 from wal-mart I've had no problems. I do like the weight on it too but I am afraid that it might break my floor or foot if I drop it hahaha

  • omfg those are trash !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • you are 100% right i wish i would have watched this video b4 i WASTED my 175 bucks on a .45 cal hi point. 3rd shot the gun lieraly exploded in my hand. cracked the FRAME of the gun in 1/2. i sent it back to hi point. they sure fixed it. but ill be danged if i ever try to shoot it. i just leave it in the gun cab. to look nice. thants all its worth and really it doesnt even do that well lol!

  • Very lucky you weren't injured! Yikes!!!

  • that the ammo exploding its bad ammo

  • I dont understand all the people rushing to defend these guns. They are mostly used by moon crickets to shoot hapless store clerks in the head at 1:00 in the morning.(if they work at all)

  • agreed

  • dont worry if someone breaks into your house you can just tell them to wait for your warranty to give ya a new one

  • first time i saw a hi-point i thought it was a bb gun!

    It loox like trash up close and from afar!

  • I like my Hi-POint... it shoots well with no probs, I have a steyr .40 and a few others as well... but I still enjoy shooting my Hi Point, its a cannon though... big ugly thing!!!

  • lol, it looks like a drilllll hahahahahahaa

    Glock looks better

  • thats exactly right, we should all own deagles. theyre so shiny.

    however, as for the hipoint, luck screwed you over good, or someone at the assembling factory has it out for you.

  • I own a Hi-Point .40 and never had a problem with it.

    You should definitely not have a defective weapon at any price, that's for sure, though. I hope you find something you like.

  • all hi points are shit get it right and buy a s&w a glock or something else that wonte breal

  • Have you ever fired a Hi-Point?

  • Thats been my point, I love my .45acp hi-point.

  • Most guns wonte breal.

  • im sorry but unless you have actually owned and fired a hi point weapon i wouldnt really bash on them. i own two a c9 9mm compact pistol and the 995 9mm carbine rifle have approximately 500 rounds thorugh each and no problems yet but there are defective weapons and defective guns from every owner but hi point is made in the usa cheap and i see them as pretty freakin reliable and they come with a 100% lifetime warranty for all owners

  • Good to hear it, thanks.

  • I own a hipoint 40. and its a good gun but its just so big and it jams alot for me :(

  • I got a buncha rugers that wonte breal eather. lmao

  • WoW, you mean to tell me the cheapest gun of them all is trash.... Im shocked.....

  • hahahahaa!

  • "apparently they make shit" hahahahahahahahahahaha

  • u shlda known that...look at that thing...shitz ugly..

  • I got one exactly like that one, never had a problem, never jammed, and pretty accurate. had it for at least a year.. but i bought mine in the store and inspected it b4 hand.

  • damn, man. why even consider purchasing a hi point in the first place? Ruger all the way!

  • A few reasons, #1, in this current climate, the more guns you have, the better. #2, you wouldn't be too distraught if your $150 pistol was stolen from your vehicle, but a $600 Glock, you'd feel that!

  • you've got a point, man. I've just always been a believer that you get what you pay for.

  • thats the exact reason why i want one. i would be pissed if someone broke into my car and stole my $500+ gun.

  • I see the logic behind your #2 argument but if you were ever going to need a more realiable gun in your vehicle wouldnt you want a glock, rather than the $150 pistol sure you would save money but if the shit hit the fan you would appreciate having the $600 pistol near by . Just me ...

  • Yes, that's true. But, the Hi-Point would scare the piss out of anyone/anything you pointed it at, and if it doesn't fire, it's so big and heavy it's deadly if you through it! LOL

  • its a hi-point!!... get wat u pay 4... shit!!!

  • I agree that a NIB gun should have been inspected. Someone meddled with your first gun and maybe the problem with the safety could have been rectified. By disassembly you would know more about it. Anything you buy should be inspected by you anyway, a car, a tee shirt, a stereo, or especially a gun. And make the store an as-is offer, then send to HP for freebies. If you had the money to buy either a HP or a PT100 it should have been a no-brainer.

  • These are two problems that could have easily been identified in the store before you bought the guns. From now on make sure that what is stamped on the box is what is in the box. Remove the mag, lock the slide back, check the action, check the barrel, etc. Tell that fantastic gun store owner to start checking things, and dont bash Hi Point. They are good guns for the price. And, learn how to take the gun apart and see what the problem is for yourself. Maybe you can learn something.

  • Thanks for the comment. I can understand that logic if you are at a swap meet, flea market, or buying something used. A new product, especially a GUN, should be inspected before shipping and in working condition. That's my personal opinion, and you can do with it what you like. :)

  • send it in and have it fixed, ITS FREE!!!!!!. i own 4 hi points and have never had a problem out of them and ive shot at least 1000 rounds out of each of them

  • Glad yours work great. If I owned the gun for any length of time, I'd use the warranty. They shouldn't be broken or made incorrectly right at the start.

  • true, i think its just because its a small company that quality isnt the best

  • Hey man, the gun was safe when it couldn't chamber a round. They were confused when you brought it back, clearly upset that you couldn't fire it.

  • I have a High Point 9mm. Just took it out to the range twice this week and I had a lot of malfunctions(stovepipes,jams ). I put well over 600 rounds through it and sometimes it shoots flawlessly and other times it doesn't.I don't know if it's the ammo or what. I will say this...It is pretty accurate and a decent gun to shoot targets with but mine definetley has some issues and they seem to be getting to the point that I'm about ready to get something else...Now my Springfield XD ..Fantastic!

  • as far as i know the c9 has some trouble feeding hollowpoints

  • I've got a Hi-Point .40 as do a neighbor and his wife. None of the guns has ever had any sort of issue. They each pulled a stove pipe or two with in the first 100 rounds but not a single issue out of the 3 guns since. I'm sure others may have had other experiences but we are all pretty happy. Oh and we are shooting blazer ammo from walmart at $12 a box. prolly around 800 rounds a gun a athis point. Happy Shooting!

  • "Hi-Point made and sold two defective guns to me."

    Did you order these online or something? I'm not trying to defend hi point, but I would never buy a gun unless I was able to handle it before I purchased it...

  • No, got them in the store. Mind you, ever since the "messiah" was elected, the gun stores here have had about 15 people at the counter at any given time per 1 or 2 sales people. Not much time to pontificate on a purchase.

  • well personally i think the hi points are very reliable firearms. i bought the hi point c9 9mm and it is a very reliable firearm has never jammed, stove piped or malfunctioned in any way whatsoever. im very well satisfied

  • I guess you had bad luck which is a pity. You'll probably never look at another highpoint again. I have their C9 and the 995 and love them.

  • Hi-Points are like X-box 360's. 1 out of every 3 is guranteed to fail. And I Gurantee that you don't want your Hi-Point to give you the RED RING OF DEATH. Please, People stay away from Hi-Points. They will lull you into a false sense of security, like AIG. Then when you need it, it jams. Get a glock, or anything thats not a Hi-Point. H/K, Glock, S/W, Baretta, Colt, D.Eagle, Ruger, Sig Sauer,Taurus, Even the EAA Witness.Get a Colt if you want a quality American Made Gun.Don't try to cover for HP.

  • Well said! Extra points for the AIG reference! :)

  • Thanks. Im just stunned that people are trying to brag so much about Hi-Points. IF you drop a Hi-Point, it is one ofe the scariest things that you can experience. When it comes to your life, it is safer to invest some money on a good quality firearm. Back to the 360 reference, i am just lucky enough to have a 360 elite that has never failed. I worry every day that it will fail though. I definatley dont want to worry about my gun failing or jamming when i need it. I dont worry about my Glock 20C.

  • Out of curiosity how many times have you dropped a Hi-Point?

  • The hi point has a kind of safety especially for when it's dropped.

  • Doesn't mean it will function correctly!

  • I guess people brag about their hi-points because it's their first gun and it makes them feel special or something. Kinda like your first bike,car or computer, it's always the best one. But then eventually it breaks down and they find out it wasn't so great after all. I own quite a few handguns and while the hi-point isn't the best gun, it offers someone a way to protect themselves inexpensively. Quality? No Affordable? Yes Close to a Glock, Springfield, S&W? Hell no, not even close.

  • Ive dropped my Hi Point, locked and loaded... it hit the floor and I picked it up... truly scary. I wouldnt say everyone brags about hi-point, its big and ugly... but mine always shot straight and never jammed.

  • Did it break the floor? Haha! jk

  • Probably did...

  • I own a hipoint 40 and I have no problems infact it is alot better than my 1911 rock island that I once had.

  • rock island 1911? thats not saying much.....

  • You might think so, but they are a great gun. Have a friend with many $1k pistols and his RI 1911 outperforms them all. Remember it's made in the same factory with the same tooling as the originals. ...or so they say!

  • Ok lets start by saying it is a new gun I have the exact same one open a can o Man and push it up its hard but it is new my gun does the same thing everything is tight when new right???

  • LOL "Can-o-Man"  Love it.

  • you get what you pay for ,i learned the hard way.spend the extra and you wont be mad!!

  • I did. Got a Taurus PT100AFS and it's incredible, reliable and beautiful.

  • maybe they are competing w/ S&W Sigma for #1 worst.

  • Hi-point = pot metal pieces of shit.

  • Huh, had my 45 HP for several years, never had an issue with it. Sorry you had such issues, I've heard more on the .40 I think than any other.

  • well you get what you pay for....the high point must have been designed with the street thug in mind....basketball..run and shoot

  • Nice video. It's funny how dramatic people's opinions of Hi Points get, and there doesn't seem to be any middle ground. Just wanted to give you some kudos.

  • hmmm,yep no worries untill some fuck'in crackhead is busting into you and your families house while your asleep and he/she is fixing to bust a cap in your ass and you can't shoot back cause your fucking piece of shit gun(with lifetime warranty) fucking jams on you.

  • Yea that sucks man i mean not everyone is going to have the best experience with certain things but my experience with this gun is positive and the pro of it is that you have lifetime warranty so no worries.

  • Without personal experience I personally can't say that a Hi Point sucks or is awesome. Based on reviews I would say that there is mixed feelings and experiences with the brand. Personally I think that Hi Point has a bad name due to the amount of defective guns they put out on the market as compared to other mainstream manufacturers.

  • agn...lol check your guns before you buy them....i had a highpoint .380 shot great and every thing....but i accidently droped it and safty bent and didnt go in....so if u still have it see if u can slighlty bend it and it might work for ya

  • You get what you pay for .I had one,never fired it,but I could tell just by looking at it ,it was a piece of junk.I'm a beginner when it comes to firearms and I could tell .I bought a package deal. A prof. keyboard,an African Grey parrot and this Hi-point 9mm for $1200.00. I would never buy a hunk of junk like this outright.There's a reason why something is so cheap. Junk,plain and simple. It makes a very nice paper weight.

  • You know what. i have had my hi point for almost 2 years and have put a god awful amount of lead threw it. Shoot it in the rain and snow. It has only jammed once cause the cleaning lube froze on the 2nd shot of the day. sounds like you need to change where you buy your guns. Ithink there selling you rejects

  • my god man i have had a colt 1911 com for about 8 years and have jamed one time thats good you jamed in 6 months thats trash get a sig man or a colt or atlest a glock man

  • Please don't be shady on hi points. I have had my 45 for about 6 months now and it has only jammed once.  Other than that no other problems. Just because it is a cheap price does not translate into cheap gun.

  • Glad you have had good experiences with yours. I like hearing from both "sides" about them. Thanks for the comment.

  • hello ejlister,

    seems u have had some bad luck with you hi points , in you video is looks like you clip is not fully engaged, as you had a gap between fram and bottom of mag. also u pulled the clip out with out hitting the release. the clip not being fully engaged would cause your safety issue , if u still have the gun u might look into that. i have has good luck with mine and my wife's no problem at all and both have had well over 1,000 rounds in them . sound's like bad luck to me.

  • you bought a hi point what do you expect?

  • That really sucks for you that you somehow got two deffective units in a row, but I still think that HP makes a damn good gun for those who can't afford to spend over $300 on a high end gun.

    My HP 40 has had zero problems and the safety works smoothly regardless of whether or not its cocked. The sights were dead-on strait out of the box with no adjustment and I can easily group shots in a fist sized pattern from 25 yards away. For under $200 its a real bargain for people on a tight budget.

  • Thanks. Glad your HP works great. Wish they were all like that, I'd be a huge fan.

  • I've had zero problems with my C9 regardless of the abuse I've put it through to prove the haters wrong.

    Really sorry that your experience hasn't quite been great. A little time with a file is all that would likely be necessary to get the safety to work. Yea, I know it sucks that you have to work so hard to get a reliable weapon, but once you get it working it will work well.

  • That sucks ejlister, at least you have a more reliable sidearm. I am shady on Hi Points. By the way, what was your budget ? Don't know if you like Glocks or not. But to each their own, Taurus has had better quality compared to a decade ago. Have fun, and safe shooting !

  • Budget wasn't an issue. I really wanted something I could leave locked in my vehicle or toolbox and not worry about it getting banged up. I agreed about the quality of Taurus. My buddies older PT100 is not as well made as my new PT100AFS. Thanks for the comment!

  • Thanks for the warning. i knew the 179$ price tag was too good to be true.

  • maybe you should read the manual before trying to use it... Cock it and the safety works DUH>>>

    UrbanKnight, learn of what you speak, Dont flap about guns you have never touched. The cost of warranty repairs is extremely high, a company cant offer a lifetime warranty on something that is "junk". Blowback actions work. They are of the earliest auto pistol design and are still in use today. The only thing thats Junk here UrbanKnight, is YOUR opinion, based on your imagination and not realit

  • Gun WAS cocked. Safety was defective. Period. Store checked it out, agreed, and took it back. Bought a trouble free Taurus.

  • You'll like your Taurus, I've owned three of their autoloaders, they make a good pistol at a reasonable price. What model did you get?

  • PT100F Stainless. VERY well made. Shoots great right out of the box. Loooove it. :)

  • Good choice the PT92 and it's .40 cal brother the 100 are outstanding,I had a PT92 for over 20 years, loved it until it was stolen. I replaced it with another Taurus, the PT911 and it's just as good. People who badmouth Taurus quality are misinformed.

  • The gun store I mainly use has a sign up. Customer must pay shipping on all taurus warranty returns due to the volume and trouble with returns. Nothing about hi-points though. And I don't own a hi-point but am thinking of picking up one of their carbines. If Massad Ayoob recomends them thats good enough for me.

  • ive never had a problem with my h-p 9mm or my wives h-p.380 or the 40 or 45 we have, also the carbines are fun for the kids. the best for your buck really

  • I own Glock Ruger Smith Browning Colt Springfield Taurus HP and more.

    All shoot great, HP is kinda ugly but it functions fine. I haven't had to return any but the Taurus and it was fixed perfectly. Just checked the safety and it goes on and off with or without the mag. I think you need to change gun shops.

  • what do you expect from a $180 gun =P

  • Most people have NO cycling problems at all with Hi Points (including myself). There are other variables that cause problems for some people. HP recommends against Wolf & Winchester. I believe the reason is the length of those cartridges. Slightly shorter cartridges - such as Blazer are known to be 100% reliable in most C9's. Some C9's will cycle the longer stuff just fine. Bent or damaged magazine feedlips can also cause problems. The design itself is fine because most have no problems at all.

  • It's not uncommon for poorly designed and cheaply made pistols to have to be cocked in order to get the safety to engage. That's not a defect, it's just a feature of a gun that you paid $100 for.

  • These guns receive great reviews and a gun dealer told me they have the fewest returns on Hi-point than any other brand they carry.

  • Hi Point has always made crap, spend a little extra money a buy a gun that isn't made out of pot metal

  • you can chalk that one up to your luck i own several hi points fire arms. 40 cal carbine 9mm pistol 45 pistol and never had a problem and for the ones who need to clean there guns. a simple venture to the makers website helps alot.

  • Great gun if you are on a tight budget. Fired over 3000+ rounds without cleaning. 100% Lifetime Warranty (No questions asked, all parts fixed and/or replaced - even 3rd party owners). Will only jam with crap ammo. Hi-Point understands that not everyone can afford $600+ guns, but that everyone should be armed. Kudos to them. I own many expensive firearms - but I would recommend these guns to anyone. Rich or Poor. Obama wants to disarm the ppl so we cant fight back. Buy a gun today!

  • They really let the quality control go nutty

  • I think someone from the store is swapping parts around....the store might be reputable, but what about the people that work in there. Maybe some new guys.

  • The store is only as reputable as the people that work there. No new guys. All of them are experts in their field.

  • The problem I have with Hi-Point is they don't have a good schematic on breaking the weapon down for basic cleaning...this weapon doesn't break down like most auto handguns. I know how to clean a 1911 but not this weapon...that is why I am a bit hesitant in purchasing it.

    Wish someone would produce a good video (meaning you can see it) on cleaning the .45 Hi-point.

  • Save yourself the agony and buy a Glock or a Sig.

  • it's not defective, take it apart and put it back together and your safety will work just fine. I had the same problem with mine. I took it apart, oiled it, and put it back together. I've put hundreds of rounds through it with no other problems.

  • Eh... yeah, no thanks. If it was a stereo or something, sure, but a firearm, no thanks! The safety is THE most important feature on the gun, IMO. It should work flawlessly and have been tested before shipped.

  • I agree about that -- but your stereo comparison is ridiculous. You should know how to maintain all your guns.

    That being said, their warranty is unbeatable, and yours is one of the only negative experiences I've seen so far. It's not the manufacturer as a whole. Certainly all manufacturers make mistakes.

  • Maintain, yes. Have to fix right out of the box, HELL NO. That goes for anything you buy. Unbeatable warranty? Lots of gunmakers offer lifetime offers now. Certainly mistakes are made, but TWO guns in a row from the same store? The statistics behind that is scary.

  • If you're going by statistics, you should realize that there are next to zero negative experiences from Hi Point owners...

  • Stop dealing with that store!

  • That store has a proven reputation for 40+ years and the HiPoint admitted it was their problem. So... no fault on the store

  • the only reason Hi Point have that warranty ,is because no one would every buy such crap unless they were sure they could get it fixed when it breaks (it WILL break) as for factory mistakes, Hi Point's mistakes are dangerous. CRAP GUNS DON'T BUY

  • actually the most important feature on a gun (other than it not blowing up with standard rounds) is the person holding it.

  • i would say the next important feature on a gun would be not Jamming, then the person holding it comes next. Because you can be the top, gun ace in the world, and your gun jams, you will die, or lose whatever contest you are in. I want a durable, reliable, non jamming gun. Just like a dull knife is more dangerous than a sharp one, simply because you have to apply way more pressure to the dull knife, which results in accidents. If you have a gun the jams, you run the risk of a misfire. Be safe!

  • they are not defective, its just a crappy manafature, well thats my opinion. same here, jamms all the time Etc..

  • You had mysterious problems with two of them? Hmmmmmmm. Call the company.

  • i have had the hi point 9mm and didnt have a prob with it. I got it to keep in my truck tool box so i would mess my good guns up. I gave it to my cuz after it looked like it was found on the bottom of the river and he cleaned it up and still worked fine. i have a glock 21 45 also have a SW40VE and i like the way it feels in my hand better than my glock. ya dont have to go out and get a high dollar gun to get a good one, i can see you got a high point for the price. you will love the VE model S&W

  • Traded it in for a Taurus PT100AFS and WOW, it's insanely awesome. Flawless, beatiful, reliable, and accurate. BUT, not something I'd want to leave in my truck or toolbox. :(

  • If you want, you can send this gun back to Hi-Point and they will fix it no questions asked. Their lifetime warranty is for any owner of the gun, be it the original owner or the 5th owner.

  • yeah i would definitely go with a s&w or anything besides hi-point. I had a roommate a while back that had a hi-point .380 (which is the lowest priced model) and he was going around saying it was the most expensive one, he bought it for $750 and blah blah blah. Well anyways he thought he was cool waving it around in public at the mall and is in jail now!

  • WTF does your dumbass roomate have to do with anything? If he was waving around a glock, would you say that all glocks are junk?

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