Guns Germs and Steel debunked by early 20th century racists

[markellion]

This is the most awesome quote ever!

"The Bantus are capable of a considerable degree of civilization, and their mental and moral qualities are higher than those of any negro race."

[2dasimmons]

Whites are so crazy when it comes to their notions of Blackness. They define, which they really shouldn't from their perspective and confuse everyone. All these "African" people are "Negroes." Even then people in Libya and North Africa who are light-skinned started out as Negroes. Some Negroes have pointy, thin noses, some Negroes have broad wide noses, some have broad pointy noses and thin rounded low-bridge noses; some have kinky hair, some have curly, some wavy-straight and WITHOUT white mix.

[donaghec]

@2dasimmons Arent people from Libya white in Egyptian texts?

[Megaishat]

@2dasimmons No, they didn't start out as negroes. They are europoid race which developed independently from their common ancestor.

[2dasimmons]

@Megaishat "Europoids" come from "Negroids." "Asiatics come from "Negroids", Etc., etc., etc. All people on African continent were black until albinos appeared, genetic mutation, and were separated from tribes. moving north. Their mixture w/other tribes and naturally occurring "light" people came to be the pink/pale peoples of world. If you read "From Babylon toTimbuktu" by Dr. Rudolplh Windsor written many years ago and still an excellent resource 2day, you'll learn about racial origins. Shalom

[3268right]

They considered Hamites black now they wana say the Hamites are white so they kan steal are history

[congobigp]

I find those comments by those european analysts concerning the phisyq of Bantus totally wrong. "the bantu not being a true negro" and aquilline nose those was the type of retoric of the colonial period which was classifying people according to European perspective. It's true that there are a lot physical differences among regions but on the other side people who look alike.

[congobigp]

As for the people south of Limpopo river it is true that Xhosas, Zulus (Ngunis) and Sotho groupings are the result of racial mixing between San and Bantus. You see that a lot in the physical appearence how some South Africans look different from congolese or gabonese but than you have people who look alike. The mixing is present in languages with the click sounds.

[markellion]

Ya they wanted to claim Bantu civilization

[congobigp]

Want do you mean by that?

[markellion]

The guy who said that wanted to think Bantu were mixed with white blood

[congobigp]

I think it could be possibly the way Tutsis were perceived by colonial powers superior to the others but then again not white, but I yes I get your point.

[markellion]

different people had different opinions but in

"The Uganda protectorate" page 474 he believes Bantu were mixed with Hamites and had some white blood

I added a link to that at the top of the descriptions box

[markellion]

The full quote he gave which was a standard racist belief at the time

"the Bantu type, which is little else than the West African Negro tinged in varying degrees with the results of Hamitic intermixture (the Hamites being either a half-way stage in the evolution of a white man * from the Negro, or an invasion from Asia of a Caucasian people which ages ago mixed considerably with Negroes till it had acquired very marked negroid characteristics)."