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  • Jeff Bhasker sent me!

  • I really admire your method of teaching.You are very clear. Thank you for posting these videos they have really helped and inspired me.

  • Can someone sight read a Scriabin Sonata ? I met a friend who told me he was a good sight reader. I put Scriabin 4th sonata, first moviment ( which is very slow ), but he couldn´t play correctly, too many mistakes, even reading 5 times... I wish I could get sight reading on a level I could play Bach Well-Tempered Klavier, or Chopin´s preludes, or even Scriabin preludes. Can you do that ? Reading children´s songs have no interest on me. I wish I could read Mozart, to enjoy REAL music. Advice ?

  • @Dihelson Can you read pieces in the Bach Anna Magdalena Notebook?

    Can you read the 2 part inventions?

    You need to find your level, and then raise it, little by little.

  • thank you forthe video! music has always been my dream and i play tons of instruments and i want to go toa music college so bad. my reading was never that great,but you've inspired me to actually have the guts to go back to the basics and re-learn music...thanks!

  • Thank you for posting this video!

    I've always been a bit apprehensive about reading music, but now I am at a point where I need to build up repertoire on my instrument and I can no longer let my anxiety hold me back. I've found that by breaking the piece down measure by measure instead of taking it in all at once, tunes I were previously afraid to approach became much easier to manage and coordinate with my fingers.

  • I'm going to learn this already

  • I'm amazed at his teaching lady. Mrs. can not imagine how much I learned from this video of yours. Simply amazing! Thank you!

    I studied saxophone in Brazil. And the sight-reading is the next step for me. Especially in more complicated scores with faster notes in Allegro or Presto.

  • Thank you so much, very helpful.

  • My 4 year old expressed a desire to play on our family piano. I concentrated on her sight-reading whilst ensuring she had repertoire pieces to thrill the rest of the family with(they all gamely clap and cheer when she does "concerts" for us). She's now 5, has five Xmas carols under her belt and can't wait to play for Santa when he makes his visit on Xmas Eve. Thank you for your wise thoughts and comments on sight-reading, I have applied them to myself as well as my daughter. She loves playing.

  • Margaret, i'm working on improving my speed. but i need to work on this. thanks for this.

  • Lovely

  • wishing is not going to make it so - new tattoo idea

  • if you can play it then it makes no difference. i can play Chopin preludes that i could never sight read, the difficult ones. i can play them from memory and i dont need the music after ive learned them

  • @anonymousQ45 That's great.

    This is mainly for people who want the pleasure of reading unfamiliar music, like reading a book.

  • This is what I needed! Thank you very much!

  • I 'm a pianist, in an advanced level but unfortunately i couldn't develop my sight reading , this made me a bit depressed, i'm 42 years old, is it too late to be a good sight reader? how long should i practice reading every day?

  • @bronzeantique It is never too late to learn something new.

    No limit on time.  Hopefully it will give you pleasure and not be a chore. If it is a lot of work you may be reading something too challenging.

  • She is correct as struggling reader will get frustrated you must decode first be comfortable before you get more difficult material. She is 100% correct.

  • thank you so so very much, suddenly after 5 years I have to start conducting the church choir i'm in and desperately need to obtain the ability of sight-reading. Your clear explanations demystified what sight-reading is to me and encouraged me to just start exercising my sight-reading eyes. Thank you so much, God Bless.

  • I am not sure what sight reading really is. It is obviously a lot more then decoding, but if it is not spelling, then it still is reading in a foreign language you do not understand.

    how many sight readers are actually capable of analysing a score harmonically of Wagner in real time ? You must have the brain of a chess grandmaster to do something like that.

  • @yoryiboy1

    i second that, imma go and read my music book now!

  • Thanks Margaret :)

  • Thank you very much! This is so useful!

  • Have you got any tips on reading the 2 staves, bass and treble at once. How can your eyes concentrate on 2 things at once?

  • @OTAHearn

    Yes, of course I do. I would be happy to make a video answering your question. Could you make a video asking this question. You could just be speaking while the visual was a picture of the piece or pieces in question.

    Then I could make a video reply.

  • @atree3 Its just any piece in general. I can sight read a melodic line easy enough but when I try throwing my left hand in (even at the simplest level, say one chord per bar) I completely fluff it up haha

  • @OTAHearn  then just pick a couple of pieces, post them and I will respond.

    Or don't you do videos?

    If you do this I will respond immediately.

    If I have to do the whole thing it will take longer, months, even.

  • @atree3 was that "A Tale Of Two Cities" you were using as an example at the start? =)

    and thanks!

  • @atree3 I have watched this video of yours many many times, and your instruction here is GOLDEN! I have this very question "Have you got any tips on reading the 2 staves, bass and treble at once. How can your eyes concentrate on 2 things at once?", Could you explain this using Guantanamera, from Alfred's Basic Adult Piano Course Book 2 Page 10? I am working with a very exclusive music teacher on reading music and playing piano. This song is at the upper limit of my ability - THANKS!

  • She says everything in such manner that it seems scandalous, even though what she's saying is perfectly innocent! xD

    Thanks!!!

  • If Margaret is dismissing decoding absolutely (which may or may not be her stance), that's pedagogically problematic. You can't grow as a reader if you only read what you already know how to read easily. Staying within the zone of proximal development is important, but categorical anti-decoding is an insufficient foundation for dogma. Adhering to it is great for a student's ego, though.

  • @perceivemedia

    Well of course, as soon as the reading is easy you have to move up to something which is a little more challenging. Always moving up.

  • Thank you Margaret! 

  • you were very helpful... :D thanks ^_^

  • that only means that that piece is to difficult for you, and easy for him

  • Thank you so much for these advice. I must admit I had a few smiles as what you say is so true..

    As a relative beginner at playing the piano, I must say that what impresses me the most in music is someone who can play a song for the first time and have it sound much better than me who would have practiced it for 6 months!

    Someone who can sight read must have a very happy life as I find it so wonderful to be able to play so many songs..

    So I'll stop wishing and start practicing :)

    Thank U

  • Thank you so much. This video is very helpfull

  • No matter how little a beginner knows, they should be playing real music by real composers. Most composers wrote some music for beginners or children. Then the student can have a little self respect. Also, teaching by rote means they can play something nice sooner. This is not the time to worry too much about reading, which is a different process completely than playing the piano.

  • great advice! thanks!

  • Everytime I look and read any piece that I have, I keep on looking on my piano and check if I am hitting the right notes. I've already been practicing sight reading for almost a month but I still keep on doing the same thing. T.T what should I do about it?

  • @bigbossdeleon

    attach a piece of cardboard from beneath the music to your upper body, covering your hands.  No can see, no can do.

  • @atree3 Can that really improve my sight reading? :| and I also have some questions for you. How long do you think will it take for me to improve my playing if I take a lesson - workshops, or one-on-one with a music teacher. :| you think I can play as good as others that took a music lesson just by watching videos? How long? :|

  • @bigbossdeleon  un measure able

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  • @atree3 lastly, how much time should I spend on practicing?

  • @bigbossdeleon Ideally , you should WANT to practice. Practice should not be done by the clock, except maybe to keep a record of how much you practiced. I ought to make a video about practice.

  • @atree3 yes, please. make one. and thanks. :)

  • @atree3 and please include some suggestions on how to choose pieces for beginners. :)

  • Thank You very much! I have learned a lot from You!!

    Best wishes from Mexihco!

  • i think it is good advice, but i find my self feel disapointed not being able to play a piece. ive been playing 6 months now im at grade 2 standard but playing grade 4-5 piece and even tho im having to decode them like the phrase you use i feel like i have achived something more because of it being able to play a whole piece.

  • @mrtennick that is true. Learning a piece, and sight reading , are two different things. Sometimes if your reading is a little better it doesn't take so long to learn a piece.

  • Thank you, now i have some direction.

  • hi there...i wonder if it's too late for me to apply these tricks since i have only started learning piano when i was 17 years-old???

  • @lollyally93 It is never too late

  • @atree3 thanks...i'll keep trying my best~ :)

  • @lollyally93 i learned@52& i am only playing1 year and i play alot of not easy pieces but you have tp play everyday and take lots of lessons

  • @lollyally93 i just started and i'm 21, i can tell im going to need a lot of time into this but it's fun!

  • Very very good advice....thank you.

    I'm teaching myself to read at 51 years old....lol.

    This is really good advice.

  • I also tended to decode' but no more having listened to this lady, just hearing her is inspirational and I shall mend my ways!

    Thanks for posting and God bless Margaret Fabrizio.

  • I wish someone like Mrs Fabrizio could have encouraged me like this when I was little

  • Thank you very much for sharing and teaching this trick of keep moving on the coming notes.

    I am a Joker in life, and would say that a Man is a good reader by nature, his eyes are always moving on other women ! ha ha ha ! That's just a little joke !. Again thanks a lot for sharing and teaching.

  • I think this is a very good presentation. I do believe that , for whatever reason, there are musicians that are more talented in reading music than others. I can practice and practice but cannot read music like others.

  • I'm working on my sight reading and this video keeps me going ...it's like my grandmother is teaching me. God, my grandmother was so cool :-) ...and so is this video.

  • Really nice video. Thanks for the suggestions. I just started playing a week ago and am really enjoying it, despite the fact I am still very green and very bad. Your sheet music idea is a great one. May be you could contact the people that make electronic kindles or book readers about it. I would buy one. It might be relatively simple to develop and you could make a mint. I almost fell over when I found a personal electronic metronome yesterday. I just couldn't believe it. lol.

  • like!! thanks this informative a sight reading technique

  • This was so encouraging and inspiring :) I know HOW to read music but I still "decode" a bit when I am trying to learn a piece. Now that I have watched this, I know that from this point forward I know how to discipline myself to have excellent musical eyes which is something that I have been wanting to improve for quite some time now :) Thank you so much for making this!

  • Thank you for good inspirational words!

  • cn u please suggest me what to do........im very weak in reading.....bt the strangest tthing is i play 20 times difficult pieces like impromptus n revolutionary etude.....so please cn say hw to concentrate

  • thank you

  • mam bu i cant even get my self to read the basics i am not able to teack myself to read i am always trying to decode as you said please help :(

  • Thank You for such an inspirational video! you make me want to become a better pianist! :)

  • That was awesome. That really helped with the mental aspect of reading music. Thanks for posting this! :)

  • very true! a looooot of practice!

  • I found this video and the lady's presentation a joy to watch.

    Her sense of enthusiasm and passion for her subject was almost tangible and I took away some good tips.

    Thank you Ma'am you are a true professional.

  • YOU ARE A BLESSING! THANK YOU:)

  • I started playing the piano 2 years ago.Just now I've realized that all those 2 years were a waste of time!During my 1st lesson my teacher gave me music sheets for an easy piece & told me that it was the piece I will be able to play after a year. so I went back home and I finished it in a week.I just memorized the notes and played it. She thought I was a genius.Now I play Fantasie, Etudes &other pieces but I can't read music! I just memorize very quickly, and read VERY slowly! thank you so much!

  • @9Christina9 You said: "I just memorized the notes and played (them)." And: "I just memorize very quickly and read very Very slowly." Now this I think is wonderfull, because that's what I have been trying to do for some time now with little succes. Can you pls say something about how you memorize the notes? Do you think that it is a skill you can share with others?

  • Thanks Margaret for this video. I'm 42 and learning violin, currently at UK Associated Board grade 3 level. And sight reading is my nemisis! Your advice is great and I'm going to grab my fiddle and put your ideas to good use right now. All the best.

    Ian

  • thanks!

  • Thank you for this.....This is very helpful

  • Everyone remembers that when things didn't go well for MF, she would whine. And whine and whine....

  • Nice advice! I think I can apply it to my pursuit of Spanish too.

  • @CApoppy Let me know how that turns out. Going to Spanish movies would sort of do the same thing

  • @atree3 I visited your channel in order to improve my quilting. I started noticing that I could improve my English just by listening to you ( Spanish is my first language). Now I keep watching, I have learned to quilt, but the most important.... is your relaxing voice. Thanks for sharing.

  • This is very good advice. I try the same with my students. Problem is if they had a teacher who did not understand this concept (for instance, the $10 an hour teacher from the local sunday school who can barely play, but they were cheap!) the children get the idea in their heads that you are going to spoon feed them every note, and often they are ruined because they have the wrong attitude...

  • This is.....MOST inspiring. I am a music teacher and-- I've been looking ..... to make things easier and-- here it is.

    THANK YOU for posting this

    Gussy Rikh

    gusrikh@yahoo.com

  • I 'm thankful for your master class , I really want to improve my sight reading skills , the idea of sight reading , which is different from decoding, and learn reading pieces and forget minor mistakes , keep moving , next measure, next measure...that's great . Hope i can do more excercise and give thanks to you again soon.

  • @atree3

    The device you mentioned at about 4:40 exist (or existed, well something similar). When I was in high school in the 70's part of our English class had reading labs and we used a device just as you described but I think it went down to cover portion of the page opposed to the side. The speed could be changed and you were tested for content afterwards. I could see someone writing software for exactly what you are describing. It would be a nice application for an iPad. Thank you!

  • Very nice! She is great! Thank you honey!

  • Very nice! She is great!

  • don't remember where you are. I am in San Francisco

  • @atree3 My dialogue seems to have been broken with you. I told you I was in upstate new york and that I would have the camera today. I told you I dnlded skype I don't see that anywhere. I don't have the camera on Tuesday afternoon I left it in my office in my rush to get home and get started. I mentioned that we would have to discuss the time zone logistics. I look fowrard to hearing from you. BT

  • @trapperbt

    sorry you did not receive my response, I sent it in the thread. In any case, I think I gave you my Skype name: margaretfabrizio.

    look forward to making contact. I am in San Francisco

  • I'm bringing the camera home from work today , Monday 9/27. I should be ready to start Tuesday afternoon. We have the logistics of time zones to manage.

  • and camera?

    it would be nice to have the music visible so we can discuss it

  • I would humbly accept your help. I don't know from Skype, I'll check it out. Ok I'll dnld Skype when I get home. This is my work PC. This is great Thanks.

  • @trapperbt I have been wanting to do some sort of teaching on line. You would be the first taker

  • @atree3 I will pick up a mic tomorrow and we could start on skype

  • I would humbly accept your help. I don't know from Skype, I'll check it out. 

  • I wish you taught me sight reading and "Classical music" I came upon this strategy intuitively but it took me a long time. I played jazz and rock and roll most of my life but now I want to play two part inventions fugues and Beethoven Sonata's. I struggle through the third movement of moonlight sonata. i don't know how to interpret the octave rolls and trills, mordents et cetera. I have to travel 60 miles to get a Classical teacher. Thanks for this vid you are enlightened.

  • @trapperbt I would be happy to help you on line. Or on Skype.

  • thanks a lot for your help

  • You should be an actress!

  • you know kids do not spell out the words anymore.. they only memorize

  • I just like this lady..

  • Thank you so much for putting that sight reading info up for all of us.

    Marie

  • excellent teacher. Thank you very much. Very useful. Well I have to start at 1 again. I decode always

  • I was also looking for a bit of reassurance, as i have only just begun reading the music i play i have to really concentrate on the note shown on the staff, now im not too bad when there are notes on just one staff but when it comes to the grand staff i get completely stuck and have to look at each stave individually, over time will i be able to flow better through music without even thinking about it? I mean, do the notes get etched in your mind so you instantly recognise them without looking?

  • @MWRiff Yes, the notes will get etched in your mind, just like letters and words have. You just have to do it, a lot. Be sure you are reading music that is too easy for you. That way you will be practicing READING, not the piece.

  • @atree3 Thanks for the reply, your very helpful :) Ill remember you when im an international rockstar haha! joke!

  • Very good advice thank you, you have saved a self-learner alot of mistakes and time, also, the ending of this video is really inspiring :) Thank you again!

  • Smart lady....

  • Damnnnnn She is gorgeous

  • Damn she is Gorgeous

  • Why piano teachers never say that??!!!!!!!???

  • @lePistolero  Its too simple

  • @atree3 maybe. But when i started the piano when i was 10, i learned the pieces that i have to play, even the easiest and my piano teachers don't teach me how to look at te score, and why it is benefic in my work... I think there is too no-saying things in actual piano teaching.

  • Thanks Margaret! I am a classically trained pianist that embarrassingly has reading problems. To add to what your saying, I'd recommend being put in a situation where you must sight read - Like accompanying a singer in rehearsal. I was asked to accompany a vocal class working on musical selections, and it was a very 'eye-opening' experience! Certainly forces one to read on the spot, with no break in pulse or flow.

  • @ViolentVibrato Definitely. That is how I learned to sight read. In Jr. high school I was the accompanist for the choir. 40 people would not stop and wait while I figured out a note.

    You're lucky to have the opportunity to be forced.

  • I used to play the piano , but I stopped 4 yrs ago. I instantly regretted it. I have continued piano just a few months ago, and the hugest difficulty is reading. I am now, far better, I remember many notes. But I will try this reading. I think it will be helpful! Thanks!

  • Wonderful! Ive been playing guitar for 25 years and cannot read a note. Im starting now!

  • @dunksnotpead remember to keep your eye always moving ahead. You should never be looking at what you are playing

    let me know

  • You have inspired me! Maybe if I use my brain, and stop decoding, I will be as smart as you are in 20 years.

  • Lol she can't even read her own native language.

  • @Icklewood finish the vid before you comment on that, idiot

  • @vampire96blood NO! NO! NO!

  • what a lovely talk I will try to make the most of it

    

  • Thanks Margaret for the tips. I was able to realize what I'm missing.

  • excellent advice! thanks greatly!

  • wise words from a wise women this was an excellent video ...I just realized I've been decoding oh wow..hmmm this reminds of Guitar Hero because when your playing a song and you mess up you have to just get back on track,of course your not reading music when playing this game but its the same concept.a person learns quicker that way too..

  • i do decode- lol

  • Ya dude totally agree with this, if young children learning english read slowly to begin with, they should just give up because they'll never be as good as their english teacher.

  • thanx madame ur right, and have personality

  • wow, this is by far the best sight-reading video on youtube. thanks for the tips!!

  • you are sooo right....i've been desiring to learn to sight read music so that i don't have to memorize any piece that I want to play

    what you've made me realize is that I should also focus on actually reading music

    after all music is the most expressive language...but usually i listen to pieces that i really really want to play, so i've usually already heard the story before i even attempt to read it

  • I'm okay reading notes if there are no sharps/flats or only one but whenever I see a lot of sharps/flats, I would make a lot of mistakes on most of those notes. How do I go about it? By the way, thanks a lot for this video. You're such a great help! I subscribed!

  • @greeky1 If you are wanting to read (an easy) piece with 2 sharps, precede by playing a D Major scale for a while, play the chords in D major, different inversions, improvise in D Major, so your hands get used to the feel of that key.

    Then, when you are reading look ahead for sharps.

  • Dear atree, thanks for this. I have returned to the piano after 30 years and my reading was never good (I memorized everything I had to), but I love to accompany.... So I am going to take your advice when I practice reading to drop the level down. How about playing pieces much slower than indicated (but well?). Like some of the Mendelssohn Songs without Words? Or should one just take "easy pieces"?

  • @Malaka57 yes, you may go slowly, but don't stop. For anything. Keep going.

    Accompanying is a great way to do it, because you have to keep going.

  • Thank you for the great teaching!!!

  • thanks! u just answered all my questions and doubts about reading!

  • Margaret i love you because your right & hate you because your right!

    learning to Read i find so hard and i don't know why.

    I got distinction in my 1st 3 grades but scored lowest mark in the reading.

    I need you standing over my shoulder all the time!

    thanks for making me realise i need to go back to grade 1 books and go over & over & over reading not decoding :)

  • This is exactly what i needed to hear. I am 16 and stared piano about a year ago, and i currently can play rather difficult pieces, but i cant read at all, i merely practice the same measure multiple times. My ambition in life ( although it seems impossible ) is to be a concert pianist. Although it may not happen, i do believe that the joy that comes along with reading music is unique and an amazing accomplishment. Thank you for this video i really believe it helped tremendously.

  • I plan on watching your tips all I can. great stuff

  • Great tips!

  • thanks a lot Margaret!!!!

    by the way  friends ,please check my vids.

  • Wow, Margaret thanks so much. My daughter began playing last year piano ans has played violin since she was four. She is not a good sight reader yet and he piano teacher is insistant that she fix her mistakes although her violin instructor, has said she must carry on and then, come back after and attempt to fix. She can play anything by ear and memorizes wonderfully but sight reading is a slow process for her. Good news she is only seven! I will show her your video. I think it will help.

  • good advice! thanks, i just started learning to read and all i do is decode hehe. but i am able to pick out notes alot quicker after 2 weeks though.

  • I have a friend who gave up astrology for what she referred to as ASStrology. I don't think this is the place to discuss how she reads the future but I'd guess it's rather clear. Is this actually reading a cavity or decoding it? I am confused. Any help would be appreciated.

  • Great teaching! This is exactly what I am working on! This really helps!

  • Yes, you should. You should try to identify triads hidden in runs, inversions, tonal shifts etc. before playing. Perhaps even play a scale and a cadence first.

  • What do you mean by reading before playing? Should I do an analysis before even touching the keys? I got a teacher who is just assigning the class pages in the book. So I kind of have to figure playing piano on my own in a way.

  • WOW I LOVE YOU!!! I do the same thing! I try to DECODE instead of not stopping and just keep on playing. My Sight Reading sucks and the bad thing is Ive had lessons before but I just never practiced either. I just found it daunting. But I want to read a melody line and just sit and play it fluently-play ANYTHING fluently. I need more lessions too bc I taught myself the basics and all. Anyway I LOVED your video

  • if you would like personal assistance I would be happy to oblige. Can you make a video of you reading, showing the music?

  • Very helpful, As a self taught guitarist I'm trying to teach myself to read music.

  • Very wise words, Thank you for enlightening me.

  • thank you so much !

  • Thanks for the advice. Lucky for me, i'm 14, so I can start using these tips (almost) from the beginning of my Piano Playing!

  • please keep me posted

  • depends on the level you are not playing. Go to your local library and get some music that you feel is way too easy.

    Take it home, play it.  Go back and get something a little bit harder. You probably don't want to buy this stuff, and I am wary of programs.

  • very good tips

  • This is the best advice and explanation I've ever heard!!

  • Top video post. Thanks very much - good comparison with reading words.

  • ma'am can you recommend some books, or a series to start off?

  • just get some music that you think is WAY too easy. Read and play it, keep going, don't stop and correct.

    If it is super easy to do, then go to something slightly harder.

  • so awsome ive been playing many bach difficult things like bach and yngwie malmsteen on guitar and its all by ear and tab and i go to twinkle twinkle little star and mess up reading,.... but im just goona keep going and get good at sightreading!

  • let me know if I can help you

  • I loove you! :-D

  • Very good advice, i'm going to definitely take it.

  • I just got ticked off and made them both 6 line clefs that are exactly equal. The lines on both clefs are now. E, G, B, D, F, A. and the "C's" on lines are always 1 ledger line above or 1 ledger line below either clef. The other "C's" are dead in the middle (spaces) on either clef.

    Before they switched to the French 5 line system, the 6 line clef system was used...and being as how I am a lousy note reader...I decipher a lot faster. LOL

    I really only learn pieces by memorizing anyway.

  • Maybe sometimes a lot of modern music is a waste of notation? - I know that this is probably an aesthetic viewpoint - but I believe a good comprimise is in order somewhere - for the further enrichment of people's musical appreciation - what would be the harm in for example writing out bach pieces with chord analysis or figure bass - I do fear that classical music has some issues of "class" to think over in the future..

  • actually your idea is totally historic. I have often taken Bach works, made a figured bass, etc. Particularly helpful if one is trying to apply the Kirnberger ideas to the playing of Bach.

    Not a wild modern idea at all.

    Thanks for your comment.

  • I love the definition of reading vs decoding - I think one reason why people do this a lot is because the visual expression of music is itself all about logically decoding quantum or organic events. Speaking as someone who has given up reading many times in favour of improvisation I wish that the 2 disciplines could become more complementary - also I am still suspicious of modern notation - in bach's time for example people regularly used figured bass - ie. shorthand for chord progressions.