In a household with two adults and only one breadwinner, the other adult should take most of the domestic responsibilities. Gender is largely irrelevant. (Pregnancy and nursing are tasks that can only be performed by the woman, but they're easy enough to balance out.)
Domestication is a topic that shouldn't even come up unless we're discussing marriage. Men should not expect those type of "wife duties" in a relationship. I wouldn't expect that in a boyfriend. A husband? Yes.
Only one comment you made was really true, and that one was YES, you are and a**hole! First of all if you met ALL of your so call 'responsibilities' as a MAN, then why your girl gotta work. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You want us to work, have your babies, clean up behind you, & then you hire someone to cut the grass and fix the car... U a**hole. God help the woman u end up with!
Wow. The standards in some of these scenarios are unreasonable. I definitely like the guy's perspective that wants the balance. I have no problem with you being the man, but it doesn't make you any less of a man if I sometime need help and you help me out.
The bald guy in the yellow shirt has his head up his ass! speaking as a guy, he's the type that will wind up cheating on you and eventually get with a guy, usually a white guy on the down low. That's why you women, black women need to be working so that in case of situations resulting from being with guys like that you can support yourself. Don't be a doormat for him because the white women would never have to be.
first and formost dude is on some b.s god made the woman and the man to stand side by side. as a woman i take care of my husband because i love him. its a partnership.some men are a-holes and have taken the gender roles to a new low. some niggas in my book will starve,live in shit and garbage, if nigga dont help with shit .i will be at my moms niggas is ridiculous. thank god for my partner and best friend. a crutch lol i work full time and u do too then if we half on utilities we half on chores
that is the speaking of a arrogant, male chauvanistic man, anytime you expect your wife to come off a work to do dinner while he sits on his ass and do nothing, is a potential cheater in the marriage and a lot of times result to men being on the downlow...especially with a white man.
i just have a question why do me feel if they have a full time job. thats it. see thats why women think mean or on the down low. cuz they b talking like a bitch.
this further illustrates that black men don't want partners they want slaves. They want maids to clean and cook and cater to them. House hold chores should be mutually agreed upon. The woman should not be expected to do it all and nor should the man.
that's why they usually get with white women because the white woman won't challenge a black man's so-called standards. She feeds his fragile ego to make him feel he's the "man in charge". Which is why the more I viewed this, none of these "black men" don't seem to fit with a black woman, in other words, I can't see them with black women. Just the way they talk and laugh and their demeaning, makes me see a white woman beside each one of them!
this is a ridiculous argument about washing dishes and trash first what is feminine about washing dishes and masculine about taking out the trash. i am pretty sure growing up as a boy u have washed dishes in your household
Another thing i noticed in this video when the bald guy in the yellow shirt thinks that if he works 8 hours while his wife works 12 she's responsible for dinner and housework. All he has to do is wait for her to cook afterwhich she would be tired, but HE will be good and rested after coming home from work. Do you think on average he's going to stay at home the rest of the evening? after dinner, he's tipping out which is where your dl men comes from while wifey is at home with the kids.
i am a guy i this guy say it is about standards, first he needs to ask himself who set the standards. i am from africa and i can tell you that the duties are shared equally. example, sometimes my father comes home early and he cooks and we my mom comes home early she cooks. and my father is a traditionalist. this roles of men and women is western culture is totally inadequate for a balanced relationship.
For all the women that are comparing taking care of the home daily with mowing the lawn, if you're in a healthy loving relationship, neither the man or woman's duties should feel like chores, but it would be a joy to do those things and with the right mindset, those things would flow naturally.
well..I work full time, have a child and I do ALL the housework, why?..because i want to and honestly i'd rather do it myself, lol, he gets in the way, his jobs are: take out the trash, lay pipe, and kill spiders and i'm GOOD.
I am domesticated and proud, we both work but im still a woman and he is my king, most of all he deserves it, he dont lift a finger and thats my CHOICE.
I have huge house, I cook, so people moan, like they having sex with my food. But if my husband would not help with the kids(3) and stuff I don't know when would I sleep. If woman would do all that work alone, Sisters, tell them, would you want to pleasure then his lazy ass in bed? My husband calls him the luckiest guy in this department, because it's such a turn ON when the Man is helpful and compassionate. Grow up, boys!
Hey, I can pay 10 bucks to the neighbor kid to take care of the yard, auto shop doing work on my car, I work(hard!-RN's never not working hard), so I can hire contractor/ electritian and so on, so where are you in this? Guys like you becoming obsolete.
continuted.... yeah, I was saying I am that independent woman, no kids, can cook, clean, professionally empoyed, mow my own grass and take out the trash. Just glad that I have a man that is willing to share the load. If we both work we spit, if I don't work, then I will submit and be at your beckon call. Red shirt, you are the smartest on the matter, the knuckle head that looks the most questionable is the dude with the Egyptian on his shirt. Take that stuff off, you are not a King but in
First of all, women were not designed for work. We were designed to take care of the home. We have learned to do what we have to which is to survive, and if you ask me that is because the man sure in the hell won't do it and he expects you to work. Then to there are still those real ideal men out there that know that women are the weaker vessel and they can not take on so many burdensome task and still maintain a healthy home all by herself. I cook, I clean, am a professional, no
We haven't even begun to talk about kids yet and the caretaking of them which I'm sure you all would proclaim is "women's work." Gimme a break I have a standard of a 50/50 partnership for any man who wants the pleasure of calling himself my husband.
It may not "sound" that way to you but of couse you don't know me so you're judging me based on a single comment which is fairly myopic and short-sighted. Interestingly enough I have had more than a few men who wanted to call themselves my husband. ;)
It's obvious and no big surprise that you guys are single and not married. The fact that you are willing to dictate the division of roles & responsibilities for your future spouse without considering what she wants or likes to do comes across as very sexist and chauvinistic. Where is the balance when both man and woman are working outside of the home? There are 3 meals eaten in one day. How often does the lawn need to be mowed?
If you do all these things before you get married, what will be left? What would one have to look forward to? A relationship should be about getting to know the other person, knowing their dreams and aspirations and being a team mate to ensure you'll actualize those dreams. Personal, I rather read book so that I can grow intellectually than scrubbing floors all day. When the shit hits the fan you are going to need a woman who can think.
Not to mention if you have children. Also, I think that these men are expecting too much from a "relationship" considering the fact that I am sure at least half of these men are not married.
Interesting...However, this makes me wonder if these men are problem solvers. For example, why not hire a maid to clean, so that if the woman enjoys cooking she will have enough energy to cook and talk to her man and afterward make love to him. If she breaks her backing cooking and cleaning all day, will she have enough time for you?
If a woman works 12hour days and your home hours earlier waiting on her than theres a problem. She works longer but its beneath you to have a meal ready for her when she gets home? Where's the balance. To put the whole load of the entire house on her is selfish, sexist and lazy. Eating is a daily event. I've never seen a man mow a lawn on a daily basis.
That is a turn off in my book, so if you don't want to handle your part I'm going to slack on my duties as well...You will not get a hot meal nor would you get your needs met when you're ready...So I strongly believe in couples working together and communicating in order to create a good healthy relationship...
I clearly do believe there are certain chores or responsibilities that should be divided up between you your mate...I have no problem with doing my part, but when you are with someone who does not carry through and just doesn't pay any attention to detail and doesn't contribute to anything... cont-
This video was full of it. Some of the men were scared to speak their minds.Well brothers sometimes things can get out of wack. Nothing is just right all the time.With that one track mine, you will end up alone. But yes I do feel like a women should balance work and home. Those are two different areas of concern, but with that f-up attitude that brother has. He will end up by himself or never happy.When you love someone you both help each other no matter who role is whom.
I am all for a woman being her own person independent of a man, and ladies believe it or not, real men find this attribute in a woman, how shall I say, Hella Sexy....But just because you have a career and other duties outside the home, please don't neglect to take care of home, i.e. you duties, and as men, we should not take (con't)
that it is your job to take care of my household, that means raising my children, allocating the funds in proper places, provided you are good with money, and other domesticated duties around the house, now that isn't to say that a man shouldn't help out when there is too much for the woman to do, I understand that trying to raise children and maintain a household can be a bit taxing sometimes, but men and women need to understand their roles. (con't)
I love how everyone has responded to this topic. This is the first feature on youtube were we have a lot of intelligent adults chiming in. But as far as the topic goes, speaking from a man prospective, I completely understand how they feel, as a man, I know that it is my responsibilty (hope I spelled that right), to take care of the things outside the home, starting with my occupation, and then my manly chores, as a woman, I feel, and ladies please don't get mad at this, (con't)
This was a good one. I'm sorry but I think people should do what's best for them. The world is rapidly changing and if you don't change with it you will become extinct. Women are equals now. The trick is making them own up to their equality in not only good situations but bad as well :)
I think it is all on expectations. If you are raised seeing a woman as being domestic then you need to find you a woman like that. If a woman is used to seeing a man take care of more at home then maybe she needs to find that. What society says and what the bible says are all well and good but if it doesn't support a good functional marriage then what is the point.
More than using work as an excuse for not taking care of household duties-I believe some women use "liberation" as an excuse for not taking care of their responsibilities. Some women think by not cooking or cleaning and allowing their mate to do those things, they have a 'good' man that has liberated her from being put into "gender roles".
The Bible Puts God 1st, then Man who follows God, then woman who follows the Man, then children follow the women, the younger children follow the older.
I found this to be an interesting topic. All of you have good points, but in the final outcome I personal feel that a relationship is based on equality and each should share in all responsibilities of the household. Of course, it goes without saying that there are somethings I would rather leave to the man of the house and I am sure there are things the man would leave for me. Communication is the key to balance.
Topic..well chosen. But where was a brief history of how you all were raised? You could not possibly cover enough angles in this snipet. I look forward to the finished product.
Now this is what I am talking about, a chance to get to here what men really talk about when women are not around. When will this be on the tube with allowance for outside viewers to call in with questions and comments because I have lots of them to make.
Thanks to whoever is in charge of this combination it is nice to watch and nice to hear.
You have confused division of house-hold responsibilities with domestication. Humans dominate and domesticate animals. An adult man and a woman work together and figure out how make their home run smoothly. This is a juvenile topic, IMO.
I absolutely agree. If you're a GROWN man, then I don't need to pick up after you as if you're a child. If we both work, then both share the household responibilities.
And "domesticated women" wtf are we wild cats or some shit?
Yes, women and men hold gendered expectations for one another, mainly based around societal aspects. As a working woman, I am a very domesticated, and could not live without my power drill and hammer, isn't this sexy:) However, a man must feel like a man, as does a woman. Therefore, who washes the dishes or takes out the trash is a given.
In a household with two adults and only one breadwinner, the other adult should take most of the domestic responsibilities. Gender is largely irrelevant. (Pregnancy and nursing are tasks that can only be performed by the woman, but they're easy enough to balance out.)
ChortortleC 11 months ago
Why did no one ever say "Hire a maid?" Who has time to do everything now-a-days to do everything, clean house, and get a full eight hours' sleep?
EAnthonyMusic 1 year ago
Domestication is a topic that shouldn't even come up unless we're discussing marriage. Men should not expect those type of "wife duties" in a relationship. I wouldn't expect that in a boyfriend. A husband? Yes.
nubianlegalmind 1 year ago
Only one comment you made was really true, and that one was YES, you are and a**hole! First of all if you met ALL of your so call 'responsibilities' as a MAN, then why your girl gotta work. You can't have your cake and eat it too. You want us to work, have your babies, clean up behind you, & then you hire someone to cut the grass and fix the car... U a**hole. God help the woman u end up with!
JESUSanswers1 1 year ago
Wow. The standards in some of these scenarios are unreasonable. I definitely like the guy's perspective that wants the balance. I have no problem with you being the man, but it doesn't make you any less of a man if I sometime need help and you help me out.
Jalafian 1 year ago
The bald guy in the yellow shirt has his head up his ass! speaking as a guy, he's the type that will wind up cheating on you and eventually get with a guy, usually a white guy on the down low. That's why you women, black women need to be working so that in case of situations resulting from being with guys like that you can support yourself. Don't be a doormat for him because the white women would never have to be.
gerlsus 2 years ago
first and formost dude is on some b.s god made the woman and the man to stand side by side. as a woman i take care of my husband because i love him. its a partnership.some men are a-holes and have taken the gender roles to a new low. some niggas in my book will starve,live in shit and garbage, if nigga dont help with shit .i will be at my moms niggas is ridiculous. thank god for my partner and best friend. a crutch lol i work full time and u do too then if we half on utilities we half on chores
mymanlovesme1 2 years ago
that is the speaking of a arrogant, male chauvanistic man, anytime you expect your wife to come off a work to do dinner while he sits on his ass and do nothing, is a potential cheater in the marriage and a lot of times result to men being on the downlow...especially with a white man.
gerlsus 2 years ago
These chic now can`t even make toast.
MrBklyn40 2 years ago
don't be a dumb ass there are 24 hours in a day if she works 12 of them get as apron on
Alivejesus41 2 years ago
i just have a question why do me feel if they have a full time job. thats it. see thats why women think mean or on the down low. cuz they b talking like a bitch.
jeco5 2 years ago
this further illustrates that black men don't want partners they want slaves. They want maids to clean and cook and cater to them. House hold chores should be mutually agreed upon. The woman should not be expected to do it all and nor should the man.
rersp21107 3 years ago 2
that's why they usually get with white women because the white woman won't challenge a black man's so-called standards. She feeds his fragile ego to make him feel he's the "man in charge". Which is why the more I viewed this, none of these "black men" don't seem to fit with a black woman, in other words, I can't see them with black women. Just the way they talk and laugh and their demeaning, makes me see a white woman beside each one of them!
gerlsus 2 years ago
this is a ridiculous argument about washing dishes and trash first what is feminine about washing dishes and masculine about taking out the trash. i am pretty sure growing up as a boy u have washed dishes in your household
TibetMoses 3 years ago 2
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Another thing i noticed in this video when the bald guy in the yellow shirt thinks that if he works 8 hours while his wife works 12 she's responsible for dinner and housework. All he has to do is wait for her to cook afterwhich she would be tired, but HE will be good and rested after coming home from work. Do you think on average he's going to stay at home the rest of the evening? after dinner, he's tipping out which is where your dl men comes from while wifey is at home with the kids.
gerlsus 2 years ago
i am a guy i this guy say it is about standards, first he needs to ask himself who set the standards. i am from africa and i can tell you that the duties are shared equally. example, sometimes my father comes home early and he cooks and we my mom comes home early she cooks. and my father is a traditionalist. this roles of men and women is western culture is totally inadequate for a balanced relationship.
TibetMoses 3 years ago 5
For all the women that are comparing taking care of the home daily with mowing the lawn, if you're in a healthy loving relationship, neither the man or woman's duties should feel like chores, but it would be a joy to do those things and with the right mindset, those things would flow naturally.
justinjbutler 3 years ago
Domestication is more ideal for stay at home moms or wives. If she is on the same grind the rules are different.
If she is making three or four times what your are making, she is not going to put up with that caveman mentality. Stop dreaming!
I personally believe that a woman should cater to her husband. But he should help out and lighten her load in every way possible.
grlmimi 3 years ago 4
well..I work full time, have a child and I do ALL the housework, why?..because i want to and honestly i'd rather do it myself, lol, he gets in the way, his jobs are: take out the trash, lay pipe, and kill spiders and i'm GOOD.
I am domesticated and proud, we both work but im still a woman and he is my king, most of all he deserves it, he dont lift a finger and thats my CHOICE.
auset1 3 years ago
I respect that Auset1. They need more sisters like you. I wish I could fine a woman that acutally cook. I would be married by now.
reignsupreme 3 years ago
yes!
justinjbutler 3 years ago
I have huge house, I cook, so people moan, like they having sex with my food. But if my husband would not help with the kids(3) and stuff I don't know when would I sleep. If woman would do all that work alone, Sisters, tell them, would you want to pleasure then his lazy ass in bed? My husband calls him the luckiest guy in this department, because it's such a turn ON when the Man is helpful and compassionate. Grow up, boys!
anichkat 3 years ago
Hey, I can pay 10 bucks to the neighbor kid to take care of the yard, auto shop doing work on my car, I work(hard!-RN's never not working hard), so I can hire contractor/ electritian and so on, so where are you in this? Guys like you becoming obsolete.
anichkat 3 years ago
continuted.... yeah, I was saying I am that independent woman, no kids, can cook, clean, professionally empoyed, mow my own grass and take out the trash. Just glad that I have a man that is willing to share the load. If we both work we spit, if I don't work, then I will submit and be at your beckon call. Red shirt, you are the smartest on the matter, the knuckle head that looks the most questionable is the dude with the Egyptian on his shirt. Take that stuff off, you are not a King but in
realityshowdiva 3 years ago
First of all, women were not designed for work. We were designed to take care of the home. We have learned to do what we have to which is to survive, and if you ask me that is because the man sure in the hell won't do it and he expects you to work. Then to there are still those real ideal men out there that know that women are the weaker vessel and they can not take on so many burdensome task and still maintain a healthy home all by herself. I cook, I clean, am a professional, no
realityshowdiva 3 years ago
We haven't even begun to talk about kids yet and the caretaking of them which I'm sure you all would proclaim is "women's work." Gimme a break I have a standard of a 50/50 partnership for any man who wants the pleasure of calling himself my husband.
DivaNLA 4 years ago 2
it doesn't sound like it would be a "pleasure" to be your husband.
pantslizard 4 years ago
It may not "sound" that way to you but of couse you don't know me so you're judging me based on a single comment which is fairly myopic and short-sighted. Interestingly enough I have had more than a few men who wanted to call themselves my husband. ;)
DivaNLA 4 years ago
LOL! interesting rebuttal...
pantslizard 3 years ago
It's obvious and no big surprise that you guys are single and not married. The fact that you are willing to dictate the division of roles & responsibilities for your future spouse without considering what she wants or likes to do comes across as very sexist and chauvinistic. Where is the balance when both man and woman are working outside of the home? There are 3 meals eaten in one day. How often does the lawn need to be mowed?
DivaNLA 4 years ago
If you do all these things before you get married, what will be left? What would one have to look forward to? A relationship should be about getting to know the other person, knowing their dreams and aspirations and being a team mate to ensure you'll actualize those dreams. Personal, I rather read book so that I can grow intellectually than scrubbing floors all day. When the shit hits the fan you are going to need a woman who can think.
ivoryb99 4 years ago
Not to mention if you have children. Also, I think that these men are expecting too much from a "relationship" considering the fact that I am sure at least half of these men are not married.
ivoryb99 4 years ago
Interesting...However, this makes me wonder if these men are problem solvers. For example, why not hire a maid to clean, so that if the woman enjoys cooking she will have enough energy to cook and talk to her man and afterward make love to him. If she breaks her backing cooking and cleaning all day, will she have enough time for you?
ivoryb99 4 years ago
it's not an "excuse" its the reason
3rdmusicroomluver 4 years ago
If a woman works 12hour days and your home hours earlier waiting on her than theres a problem. She works longer but its beneath you to have a meal ready for her when she gets home? Where's the balance. To put the whole load of the entire house on her is selfish, sexist and lazy. Eating is a daily event. I've never seen a man mow a lawn on a daily basis.
GradieGreen 4 years ago
That is a turn off in my book, so if you don't want to handle your part I'm going to slack on my duties as well...You will not get a hot meal nor would you get your needs met when you're ready...So I strongly believe in couples working together and communicating in order to create a good healthy relationship...
lcarteravila 4 years ago
I clearly do believe there are certain chores or responsibilities that should be divided up between you your mate...I have no problem with doing my part, but when you are with someone who does not carry through and just doesn't pay any attention to detail and doesn't contribute to anything... cont-
lcarteravila 4 years ago
This video was full of it. Some of the men were scared to speak their minds.Well brothers sometimes things can get out of wack. Nothing is just right all the time.With that one track mine, you will end up alone. But yes I do feel like a women should balance work and home. Those are two different areas of concern, but with that f-up attitude that brother has. He will end up by himself or never happy.When you love someone you both help each other no matter who role is whom.
luvroxie1 4 years ago
I found this vid very interesting to watch...as a woman I agree with the overall conclusion--communication is key!!
rella1987 4 years ago
I am all for a woman being her own person independent of a man, and ladies believe it or not, real men find this attribute in a woman, how shall I say, Hella Sexy....But just because you have a career and other duties outside the home, please don't neglect to take care of home, i.e. you duties, and as men, we should not take (con't)
jervie39 4 years ago
that it is your job to take care of my household, that means raising my children, allocating the funds in proper places, provided you are good with money, and other domesticated duties around the house, now that isn't to say that a man shouldn't help out when there is too much for the woman to do, I understand that trying to raise children and maintain a household can be a bit taxing sometimes, but men and women need to understand their roles. (con't)
jervie39 4 years ago
I love how everyone has responded to this topic. This is the first feature on youtube were we have a lot of intelligent adults chiming in. But as far as the topic goes, speaking from a man prospective, I completely understand how they feel, as a man, I know that it is my responsibilty (hope I spelled that right), to take care of the things outside the home, starting with my occupation, and then my manly chores, as a woman, I feel, and ladies please don't get mad at this, (con't)
jervie39 4 years ago
My ex-wife (american) didn't work or do domestics. Horray for No-Fault!
SterlingSolomon 5 years ago
this one is hilarious!
blakwizdem 5 years ago
This was a good one. I'm sorry but I think people should do what's best for them. The world is rapidly changing and if you don't change with it you will become extinct. Women are equals now. The trick is making them own up to their equality in not only good situations but bad as well :)
brianlondon464 5 years ago
I think it is all on expectations. If you are raised seeing a woman as being domestic then you need to find you a woman like that. If a woman is used to seeing a man take care of more at home then maybe she needs to find that. What society says and what the bible says are all well and good but if it doesn't support a good functional marriage then what is the point.
onepunchmicky 5 years ago
More than using work as an excuse for not taking care of household duties-I believe some women use "liberation" as an excuse for not taking care of their responsibilities. Some women think by not cooking or cleaning and allowing their mate to do those things, they have a 'good' man that has liberated her from being put into "gender roles".
Natural2BMe 5 years ago
The Bible Puts God 1st, then Man who follows God, then woman who follows the Man, then children follow the women, the younger children follow the older.
The Kingdom is NOT a Democracy.
QuantumNLP 5 years ago
I found this to be an interesting topic. All of you have good points, but in the final outcome I personal feel that a relationship is based on equality and each should share in all responsibilities of the household. Of course, it goes without saying that there are somethings I would rather leave to the man of the house and I am sure there are things the man would leave for me. Communication is the key to balance.
ladydaylove46 5 years ago
Topic..well chosen. But where was a brief history of how you all were raised? You could not possibly cover enough angles in this snipet. I look forward to the finished product.
christyc972 5 years ago
Now this is what I am talking about, a chance to get to here what men really talk about when women are not around. When will this be on the tube with allowance for outside viewers to call in with questions and comments because I have lots of them to make.
Thanks to whoever is in charge of this combination it is nice to watch and nice to hear.
Denise V.
beyomcek01 5 years ago
You have confused division of house-hold responsibilities with domestication. Humans dominate and domesticate animals. An adult man and a woman work together and figure out how make their home run smoothly. This is a juvenile topic, IMO.
Sharmil McKee
sharmilmckee 5 years ago
I absolutely agree. If you're a GROWN man, then I don't need to pick up after you as if you're a child. If we both work, then both share the household responibilities.
And "domesticated women" wtf are we wild cats or some shit?
Roxie21 4 years ago
Yes, women and men hold gendered expectations for one another, mainly based around societal aspects. As a working woman, I am a very domesticated, and could not live without my power drill and hammer, isn't this sexy:) However, a man must feel like a man, as does a woman. Therefore, who washes the dishes or takes out the trash is a given.
GoldenLady4 5 years ago