STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS DONT NO SHIT ABOUT BOXING HE JUST SAID HATTON WAS IN HIS PRIME LOL HATTON WAS IN HIS PRIME VS MAYWEATHER HE WAS LIKE 40 AGAINST PACROID
@batalarabe i knew some worthless nigger scum would type some shit like this. pacquiao has never tested positive for anything. the Illuminati have brainwashed stupid nigger monkeys into seeing mayweather as a hero, even though he beats women, traffics cocaine, gets dumbshit niggers to worship federal reserve notes, and is extremely materialistic.
if you hate Zionist Jews so much, why do you look up to their appointed heroes, listen to shitty rap music ect?
will you call me a pactard? i think marquez won this recent match.
will you call me racist? you have all of this Jewish hate-speech on your channel, so i would just like to point our that niggers are the lowest form of life.
i am not Jewish but i KNOW(not NO) that any Jew of any race is superior to worthless nigger trash.
even if mayweather KOs pacquiao, you are still a nigger.
whatever respond with, my ancestors owned yours as slaves faggot.
he is crazy pac is a small guy he is suppose to be fast, and talk about explosive what about tyson when has was on the attack?, pac has fought old fighters the last few years, de la hoya, sugar shane, marquez, even morales and barrera were past their primes when they fought pac, margarito they knew he was big and slow, clottey also, and made fighters come down in weight and drain them self, and try to make marquez come up at 38 and they thought that would work for them and it didnt turn out good
I would put Pacman between 25-30 only because of his accomplishments, we are talking about 100 years of boxing here, Pacman would have only been known as a great contender if he was around in the 30s, 40s, 70s and 80s. The talent in the divisions back then was amazing
@Smythy777 Dont stop bro....Tell them like it is! It's true. Manny wouldn't even stand a chance in those times!!! Plus there are even more boxing greats that would've for sure gave Pacquiao a bad night. We are looking at Felix Trinidad, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Hitman Hearns, Roberto Duran, and the list goes on. If Manny couldn't get finish and decisively defeat Marquez he doesn't deserve to get in the ring with the great Mayweather. Mayweather is too fast and too defensive.
Pac is not the best or close, dont forget Chavez, Willie Pep, Hagler, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Duran, Hearns, and most of the last fights of Pac have been against past their prime fighters or big and slow fighters, he chose JMM right now cause he is 38 already come on, all the other fighters fought eacther in their prime, Pac had problems with JMM and lost the first to Morlaes so imagine the problem he would have had with chavez or leonard, or halger come on, like he said u suppose to be fast
Every videos I saw Teddy NEVER give Manny a break. I don't know what Manny did or say to Teddy but I just feel like he never appreciate the work and the accomplishments that Pacman deserve.
Can Paq fans answer 2 simple questions? i just want a real answer not an emotional or a comment that involves ingorance. what fighter has paquiao fought during their primes other than morales who knocked him out? and the 2nd is has paq ever fought a technical/defensive fighter? pls dont name brawlers. actual boxers like floyd or a disciplined zab judah.
I would be more inclined to have a conversation about Pacquaio's all time great status, if we had been talking about his place in history before 2008... However, since there was no mention of it before 2008... I have to call it like it like i see it.... CHEATER!
LOLif Pacqiuao fought in 80's he would have gotten smashed by Duran at lightweight. If he moved up to welterweight Hearns would have took his head off, and Leonard would have toyed with him. Bob Arum doesn't know shit about boxing, Sugar Ray Robinson was as MP and hit harder, and had a better defense.
The diff. bet. Floyd & Pac, while Floyd was not given a fair shake for not giving a good/exciting fight, Pac himself is not getting the fair shake for giving an exciting fight, dominating & knocking out out his bigger opponents.
For Pac to be accused of using such banned substance by Mayweather just signify that the fighter has accomplished a remarkable/impossible feat above every other average fighter had done.
If Floyd is hesitant to fight b4 because of this unproven accusation, what more he will do if Pac will be proven clean of this accusation.
This are just enough that exposed Mayweather why until now the same tune of TAKE THE TEST is still not materialize.
teddy atlas, why don't i see you make comments after the mayweather-ortiz fight? where is your stupid mouth at? can somebody show me the links to that video?
with teddy atlas way of reasoning about earlier fighters,,that means no one will ever beat those earlier fighters then ! earlier fighters are technically inferior to todays boxers u dimwit !
Wow! After a fight w/ HATTON (a ko right) we start talking about him being all-time great. LOL! interesting. Mayweather already took the steam out of that bag when he was undefeated. Once you get ko'ed, it's much easier to ko. But arum is doing his job...WELL as a promoter should.
wew.Latest news.!FLoyd Gayweather Sr. new hot demands!.he's new demand is manny should not practice in the philippines".WHAAAAT? how about the public service of pacquiao?come on gayweather camp.!
The problem with you new fight fans especially the Manny group is that your love for him clouds your judgment. Secondly, Manny is not in the truest position to pursue anything (drug test, drug test, drug test). I would encourage you to study contract law and the business of boxing. Then clean up your potty mouth it’s unnecessary and shows a lack proper training
Manny Pacquiao refuses to take a drug test. He mandates catch-weights for his opponents for vacant titles and does not defend them. If he can fight a Margartio that comes with 15lbs over him then why does he not fight Sergio Martinez who states he can easily make 154lbs? Why does he force his opponents to weaR 8oz gloves against the standard 10oz gloves used in competitions? The whole things is a charade. 9 years ago Arum said Mayweather>Ali now its Pacquiao. Give me a break honestly.
@musood6630Dude its more degrading at all when U claim you're best but U don't have the guts to fight the best. By the way all negotiating factors you mentioned are within the scope & jurisdiction of the Commission. In regards to the gloves, you are misguided that Pac has mandated the use of his 8 oz gloves, if his opponent prefer to use the 10 oz gloves, that can be mutually compromise, the same situation that happened to Pac Vs. Morales 2. Catchweight was use 2 avoid weight mismatches. PEACE
@DROC1474 Look even if Pacquiao has conquered 8 divisions 2 of his 10 titles the Pacific bantamweights are not even for 1 ranked fighters. Pacquiao has never held a lineal title before meaning he just wins the title and vacates. Mayweather has 2 lineal titles. I'm not saying he is better than Pacman but the fight could've been made for a long time all Manny had to do was take the test. Plain and simple. Pacquiao always stipulates a 1million plus penalty per lb to gain a catchweight adv. fact.
@musood6630 Dude, Catchweight fight or normal Title fight always have a penalty in case a fighter exceed on d stipulated weight/maximum weight on the Div. they r fighting respectively. I don't need 2 further elaborate on d Title Fight. In regards 2 catchweight, a penalty of 20% (per pound excess)of d agreed purse will be paid by d fighter who comes up overweight, 10% will be given to d Fighter who makes the weight & $10 to commission, its necessary to know that this is subject 2 both of them.
@musood6630 Dude, its unjust & unfair if you claimed that its Pac's fault why the superfight between him & May until now still haven't materialize. If you will try to fairly assess the issues on this drug testing, May is the maker or the break of this fight. He as he claimed himself is the one who do the offering, if he truly want this fight to happen, he should signed the contract first to finally materialize his so called test in Pac outside & inside the ring.
@DROC1474 I understand there are penalties but 10million per pound is fucking insane. That's like half of the purse of Pacquiao and probably more than the other guys who vs him. I'm not blaming it all on Pacquiao. I think Floyd has issues too, I think he's not interested in the fight anymore. But Floyd should give Ortiz a rematch whoop his ass like the 1st fight and then fight Manny. I'm being objective. May 2010 if Pacquiao said yes to the test then it could've been done there and then.
@musood6630 Dude, its $10 million if U r going 2 compute d said penalty on d agreed purse of $50 million base on d 20% stipulated in catchweight clause. Personally i respect Floyd skills in terms of his defensive wizardry & his accurate punching skills. But just like you, i & rest of Asians cannot just let pass what Floyd has done to Pac, its his right to accuse Pac but to d fact of his misguided/misinformed/biased remarks on Pac, his defamatory remarks on his home made video r unjustifiable.
@DROC1474 Pacquiao is good. I rate him no.1 in front of Mayweather p4p at the moment. Both fighters have issues and it ticks me off when people go and side with one person or bring up Floyd's personal issues etc. On the net its a hate Floyd zone. I respect both fighters and think they are both good but this fight is almost 3 years overdue. Had they fought 2010 it would've been perfect timing after Floyd beat Mosley and Pacquiao beat Clottey. IF they do fight it's going to be post-prime.
@musood6630 Its not Pac's fault if he is the claimed current recognized P4P & the rest of his recognition/titles. His record, & what he can bring to the table are just enough to merit this which he not even asked for. Again, i respect Floyd's accomplishment & what he had done in boxing but isn't it just fair that he settle his greatness towards Pac INSIDE the ring. Win or lose is not shameful at all & 2 lose 2 a 43-0 All Time Great or Lone 8 Div. Champion is already a sweet noble defeat.
@DROC1474 Both fighters will be ranked in the history pages forever. I don't deny Mayweather's antics but at the samet ime your ignoring the fact that Pac refused to take the test last year and that Michael Koncz contradicted Pacquiao by saying if the test goes under 14days they won't take ti. The whole situation is a huge mess with boss sides to blame. Floyd on his behalf is doing nothing to get the fight going- he's being counterproductive and I fully understand his detriments aswell.
@DROC1474 Bob Arum has no right saying Pacquiao is > Ali because he said the same thinga bout Floyd 4years earlier. It makes no sense. Pacquiao is in the top 40 so is Mayweather (a bit behind Pac). But the truth is Pacquiao was the problem last year and now the problem is more on Mayweather than Pacquiao. Easy solution is for the WBC to mandate Floyd to either vs Ortiz or Manny OR have his title stripped. And for WBO to do the same for Pacquiao. But of course fighters are too powerful now.
@musood6630 By now, its time 2 set aside all d blames, pinpointing, etc, since in some way as what we said both sides have their share that caused d cancellation of this mega fight. What we could hope now that aft. Pac surpass his trilogy w/Marquez, respective camp may set aside their ego's & meet halfway 2 finally realize ds. Whatever at stakes on ds superfight, its d FANS, US the reason why ds 2 exceptional fighters r there. Due Credit is already given 2 them 4 making ds fight happen.
@DROC1474 I hope Pacman really dishes some whooping on Marquez and then presto we can begin negotiations. Floyd has no fight coming up for all we know and Pacquiao's road is ambigious. It's time that the two sides grow balls come to the table and finally negotiate a fight. Honestly it's been almost 3 years now. 2009 talk started. Now its getting ridiculous. It's so lucrative that people are leaving boxing based on the neglect of the 2 biggest fighters. This means bad news for future stars.
@musood6630 Its so biased and ridiculous that Pac haters always jump in an unproven accusation & how this drug testing proc. turn out to be. FACT is, Floyd himself is inconsistent/unstable on how this drug testing should be finalized. His recent actions just showed us that he fooled us thrice. Again, if this is still not enough for his followers to realize, its only a FANATIC or simply hopeless & irreversibly dumb who will acknowledge this.
Manny cant be compare to anybody else because Manny has gone through hardships that made him great to what he is now and this guys talking are just LOOSERS AND mANNY NEVER SAID i AM tHE gREATEST HE NEVER SAID THAT ITS THE PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT MANNY IS AN ALL TIME GREAT AND MANN Y IS ONE OF AN ALL TIME GREAT. HE IS SO HUMBLE AND HAS HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHERE NO BOXER HAD EVER DONE LIKE MANNY IS DOING .
BHops boy (Shane Mosley) got his ass handed to him by Pacquiao. And Teddy is still SO jealous of Manny. You can tell by the way he tries to bash him. That is because he is in love with Floyd!! HAHAHAHAHA
Pac makes my top 20 of all time greats at number 14. Good fighter but many Flaws and very overated. In order to be the greatest fighter of all time u have to be the best of your era and This is Mannys era and He ist the best Floyd mayweather is. But I give Manny his props for exciting fights, and offensive pressure and 7 captures of world tittles
@MultiHephep That made no sense ur sayin hes not the best but he can beat the best. Floyd Maywheather wud beat him and so wud sergio Martinez so dude is not the best he protected by Freddy Roach avoiding fighters that can beat him
@MultiHephep Dude u are a strait clown real talk. Freddy Roach is a fuckin mastermind at picing easy fights for this bum thats why they still work wit Bob Arum to protect Manny. They take fighters comin off of ko losses, or they dehyrate them down to 147 then put in the contract that they cant rehydrate for the final weigh in. Mosely was thirsty, so was De la hoya, Coto comin off of loss, Margarito comin off of loss, Every since he got to welterweight he became a bitch wit fight selection
@dimecity317 yeah you are right about some point. but those fighters u mentioned they all call pacquiao... pacquiao didnt call them...... so welcome to pacland. u will play his game if u want pacquiao. that's being smart in the world of boxing. btw im a boxer that's the sports nature. if ever u call somebody he will not play your game. you will play his game. that's why floyd vs pacquiao isnt happening. nobody wants to play the others game. got my point? tnx bro
@ForME4mi So the fuck what. I see ur point but its not very strong. Theres tons of fighters that call out Pac, thats where the money is at. If ur the best why not fight the guys that comin off of impressive wins, Wen Floyd is not around theres no tough welterweights, He shud go down to fight Tim Bradley or go up to fight Sergio Martinez or Andrae Ward. Hes impressive for the show he puts on for the fans but without an impressive win at welterweight he will never be the best. Floyd is!!!
@dimecity317 hahahaha! andre ward? yeah i got your point i dont have time to talk to u, andre ward fighting pacquiao?..even if u asked every1 u are ignorant to that matter. thats just absurd.well.so long!
@ForME4mi Dude go do something with ur life. I thought u wud have an argument like everyone else does, all u can say is how stupid it is for the fight , u cleary dont see my point.
@dimecity317 PAC's been fighting fighters in the top 10. d guy earned everything the hard way. he just makes fights look so easy thats y people like u think he's not fighting d best. BARRERA, MORALES, MARQuez, COTTO, HATTON, CLOTTEY, and now MArgarito. u kidding me? r u suggesting these people are nobodies. check out the RING MAGAZINE and ul see in the last few years these fighters are in the top 10 and some of them are most avoided and feared
Manny Pacquiao will never in my mind be thought of as a great fighter. Good yes but he has two large problems. One of he created entirely by himself, the refusal to take a real drug test with the variety of excuses he offered! #2 he lacks the versatility that true champions have. Good guy and solid B fighter but without any malice his legacy is very clouded by the steroids problems!
@1879gym PAC's been fighting fighters in the top 10. d guy earned everything the hard way. he just makes fights look so easy thats y people like u think he's not fighting d best. BARRERA, MORALES, MARQuez, COTTO, HATTON, CLOTTEY and MArgarito. u kidding me? r u suggesting these people are nobodies. check out the RING MAGAZINE and ul see in the last few years these fighters are in the top 10 and some of them are most avoided and feared and manny agree to take the drug test to shut gayweather
Funny how in just a few years he goes from a nobody to ATG. How? He beat up an old washed up Oscar, Damaged goods in Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. A past prime Mosely who he ducked for two years, Margarito who didn't deserve the fight and Joshua Clottey who didn't deserve it either. So now what? He's fighting JMM for the third time past his prime? No Martinez, no Bradley? Why? So its ok when Manny fights people past their prime yet if Floyd does it, he's wrong?
@BlackOwnedDollars u can also mention pacman started at the lowest weight class and went all the way up to welter and dominating them all. hes also growing older just like the others but is increasingly getting faster and better
@AsianBaskero Are you saying he gets faster and better in essence of saying he is a cheater, or that he's getting better and faster because he's an ATG? Im not sure what point you're driving at. Because if you're trying to say that it does not seem odd that he has gotten faster and stronger while aging then i bid to you that it does not happen that way and you're supposed to slow down.
@BlackOwnedDollars Sir, i want to correct U in ur point of pac become faster & stronger when he moves up in weight. It is a fact that d speed & power is still there, but it does not mean that he become more stronger & faster. As evidence on his fight with the notable fighter in cotto & Margarito, it is evident that Pac is faster than them. The big difference while he moves up in weight is his becoming a complete two fisted fighter with lots of added arsenal aside from his constant aggression.
erik morales was not thought washed up until he lost to Manny. He is only two years older and lost when he was like 30. The first Barrera fight, Marco was in his prime. Miguel Cotto to this day is considered one of the best. Manny is far from overrated
@BoxingGuru1000 Morales was drained beyond recognition and was washed up that night. Cotto, had nothing left and everybody including Pacquiaos trainer knew it
@BlackOwnedDollars The difference with Pac to Floyd is that Pac's excuse after the fight while Floyd had so many excuses even before the fight start (pertaining to his soon to be fight with Pac). Morales weight drained? It was the same weight that Morales beat Pac in their first outing and the same weight Pac give Morales his first legitimate knockdown and knock out on the rest of their trilogy. Both of them are weighing averaging 140+ on the fight night itself for the said trilogy.
@DROC1474 Pacquiao has nothing but excuses. All i hear is he was afraid of needles, he hates drawing blood, he feels woozy after taking blod all they take is a tablespoon. That is an excuse right there. It can be the biggest truth that he feels sick after doing so but the fact is its an excuse and no matter what Pacquiao has all the excuses in the world for not taking the test and Mayweather has one request
TAKE THE FUCKING BLOOD TEST. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT IT?
@BlackOwnedDollars Whatever the Pac haters or Floyd's followers said about the excuses of Pac regarding this random drug testing, still it doesn't validate or conclude to the point that Pac is hiding something. THE FACT remains that Pac himself had been tested negative of such accusation eversince. THE BOLD FACT shows that Mayweather's tact of this random drug testing is an indication of a threatened fighter. A threat that he already concede if this fight happens.
@BlackOwnedDollars Don't worry Pac and his camp will now fulfill soon the lone ace of Mayweather on his no cut off random drug testing matter. We just hope after fulfilling this we will see who is the one really dodging the fight. And if the fight should materialize, we will then see who is truly the greatest between them. Win or lose, due credit is already given to them by making this fight happen.
@BlackOwnedDollars The same old pattern of excuse on Pac dominance on the lower weight class - over the hill, washed up, past his prime, old , etc and the recent excuse on Pac dominance on the welterweight class (which Floyd for the past five years have not yet faced the legitimate top welterweight except for Mosley) - used of steroids, PED's etc. Pac's haters will never run out of criticism no matter who Pac faced.
@BlackOwnedDollars The difference between Pac to Mayweather is while Pac busy fighting & dismantling those left over of Floyd & also to those he claimed left overs by others, May himself is just busy finding an unending excuse on avoiding to fight the said beaten warrior (not left over) by Pac.
@BlackOwnedDollars That's where you're wrong. Pac may come from a 3rd world country, but he had already proven himself on d Asian region before he made a shock of waves on the US. His initial shock was a demolishing knock out on Pride of South Africa on Ledwaba where he came a week replacement. Because of his explosiveness & non stop action in his every fight that caught the attention of the US Media. After he upset & dismantle the top featherweight in Barrera, that's where his greatness start.
@BlackOwnedDollars Plus the thing that he is now comfortable w/ his weight now w/c is really his actual/usual weight when he was still on super feather weight & lightweight. With this actual weight, he don't have d discomfort of dehydrating himself. He's fighting JMM the third time to close the unfinished business on them. Marquez is not past his prime, he just beat & dominate d younger fighters in Juan Diaz & Katsidis after d loss to Floyd. Marquez is not a left over but a true warrior indeed.
@DROC1474 I really dont care for what you typed. I dont care about all of what you say because quite honestly at the end of the day all he has is reasons, and excuses and nothing but responses as to why they can't do shit. Now that Bob Arum grows closer to not having other fighters for Pacquiao to face he feels that OSBT isn't good enough because the people who administer the test might rule against Manny because he isn't American
In other news, i cant bribe those people so i dont want them
@BlackOwnedDollars Excuses, excuses. Isn't it regarding this fight between him and Manny, its Mayweather who started it all this irrelevant excuses citing Pac as this & that. As what we've argued on other threads, this drug testing should now be handled by the proper in charge. Its just fair for Arum to look for a neutral party which WADA is the rightful candidate. WADA is the most neutral organization on this matter and USADA is just under this WADA.
@BlackOwnedDollars You are questtioning Arum's looking for a neutral party on how this random drug testing should be handled, isn't it also the same action that we need to ask Mayweather's sudden use of USADA on this drug testing against the NSAC whom he had abide eversince he had start his career as a boxer.
@BlackOwnedDollars Dude, again you are creating another issue yet to prove. You are accusing NSAC, the same organization that tested Mayweather (and he adhere) from the time he start his professional career in boxing. I'll may agree with you that there might be some fine tuning that need to be made in their testing but it doesn't prove your point that the Commission don't care on the athletes involve in contact sport.
@DROC1474 You cant ACCUSE an organization of doing something that was proven to be true. Its proven that hundreds of boxers cheated. I ask you, why were hundreds of boxers allowed to cheat the test? There is no fine tuning that needs to be done because when so many people are able to cheat the test it's telling of how the commission runs its business. You try to swipe it away because you know im right and to admit im right would mean to find flaw in Pacquiaos decision and to admit Floyd is right
@BlackOwnedDollars TRUE, GREAT and Gallant Warrior is TESTED INSIDE THE RING, and not on the TEST OUTSIDE THE RING. If we really want to see who hold the said character among Pac and Floyd, why not we ask a random fight between them INSIDE THE RING instead of the random blood test that Floyd is persistently insisting. Let see then who will rise to the challenge & who will dodge the fight. This is the TRUE TEST that will further show the TRUTH & the TRUE FIGHTER & a WARRIOR between them.
@DROC1474 See, what you're trying to do is say its ok if Manny is cheating. I dont care if Manny isn't tested for PEDS because i want to see him win that badly. You're just being unreasonable because you know Floyd is too much for him. A true TRUE WARRIOR doesn't hide behind the suspicion of a blood test. A TRUE WARRIOR takes the test, passes it, then beats up the other guy for DARING to besmirch his good name. THATS WHAT HOLYFIELD DID TO TYSON and GUESS WHAT? Holyfield cheated as well
@BlackOwnedDollars Sorry i forgot to add something, after the RANDOM Fight have been made, this will not be complete without a thorough BLOOD & URINE test afterward to further determine that the Victor of the said random fight is Clean & Free from any PED/Steroid Use. Are you satisfied with this Now?
@DROC1474 Why test them after and not during? After would be too late. Imagine Floyd on a new age PED that allows him to take punishment as well as become faster than he was at 130 and Manny lost to him only to find out a day or weeks later Floyd was cheating. It's null and void because at the end of the day they wont take the W off of Floyds record. He will just be labeled a cheater and it will mean nothing because you still witnessed Floyd win a fight and Manny take a beating
@BlackOwnedDollars Are you kidding me? Who is the stupid boxer in the planet will do that knowing that they will be tested after the fight? Isn't it a waste of time, money and mostly honor knowing that there is no way you will get away with it to think it will be a random fight.
@BlackOwnedDollars If there is anything suspicious on this no cut off date blood test, it was Floyd. He is the one indeed the cheater hiding on his TEST which termed as a malicious and a deceptive ploy that will be used as an added advantage on him. Again, if his true intention is just to deter Pac of using this PED, why not used the daily unlimited urine testing up to the fight if there is some issues on blood being drawn fr. pac? Isn't this enough to detect if Pac is really positive of PED.
@DROC1474 Because Urine isn't enough. The urine was unlimited but the blood has to be done as well. Plenty of people took drugs knowing they were going to get tested. Roy Jones JR did it. He wasn't kicked out of boxing or stripped of anything during his reign in the sport
@BlackOwnedDollars Urine is not enough if its just random but to make this daily within three months up to the fight, do you think there is no way that this option can detect if a fighter will be guilty of using such banned substance. Roy Jones may get away with it because there is no media watching on the said testing. This is different from the fight bet. Manny & Floyd since this testing had already takes a world wide coverage & global attention.
@BlackOwnedDollars If Floyd is too much for Pac, then why this random blood testing of him still be his undying excuse or his so called to even the playing field. Why then let his skills of being a good defensive guru proves it in the ring to the offensive fighter in Pac. Again, Pac is not hiding on Floyd so called test, its just Mayweather's changing condition of how this ODST will be instituted that confused not only Pac but to US fans as well.
@DROC1474 He never changed anything, Pacquiao agreed to the test. He just wanted to know when he would take the blood tests and did not want the testing to be random. Which is why he did not agree. At the end of the day, there would have been NO WAY AT ALL for Floyd to know that asking for a blood test would have made Manny back out of the fight. The only person with excuses are pacquiao and his fans.
@BlackOwnedDollars How can you explain then the Action of Mayweather when he was asked to response on the ultimatum set by the Pac camp when they are almost agreed to the initial 14 days random test by Mayweather on their initial agreement. Again, why he need to change the said 14 random days to up to the day up to the fight. What is the difference of the said 14 days to d 19 days that May and Mosley random test on their fight?Might be your reply will be Floyd is just cutting them a better deal
@DROC1474 They proposed 14 days, Bob Arum flew to Manilla and gave the contract to Manny, then fight was canceled and they signed for the Clottey fight 3 days after.
@BlackOwnedDollars The one that im pointing out is the 2nd & 3rd negotiation on mid of 2010 after Pac beat clottey & Floyd beat Mosley. Again, this is just sign of Floyd of his stance with this fight, everytime Pac was almost complying with his demands and making the fight nearly happen, he will come up with new condition of up to the day of the fight this random blood testing should be implemented.
@DROC1474 They didn't want a 14 day cutoff at the first negotiation, then to make it seem as if nothing was wrong they asked for the 14 day negotiation after they turned it down the first time which makes no sense. After that there were no more negotiations. Bob Arum is just making shit up and was caught in a lie when asked if he made further negotiations he said yes when really it was untruthful so again. Floyd is the one not lying.
@DROC1474 Please tell me how Floyd is cheating? The demand from the start has always been random blood testing so there would be no way for Floyd to have known that Manny would have denied the fight if the test would have been agreed upon.
@BlackOwnedDollars Floyd knew that there is an issue in Pac of being blood withdrawn from him. Again, i don't need to elaborate more on this, the video was still posted in youtube pointing this as a part of his loss to Morales 1. Its a fact indeed that such rigorous blood testing which now Floyd insist will really weaken any boxer in any manner, this is the situation that Pac don't want to get into again, cause he knows he need to be physically prepared when he face Floyd.
@DROC1474 Pacquiao said he lost to Morales because of his gloves, then because of the blisters on his feet, then saying he didn't like to draw blood. SO WHICH ONE WAS IT. If drawing blood was such a bad thing that messes up his performance then he would of never agreed to taking the test at any point and would not have negotiated further because no matter what, it stops how well he can perform.
@BlackOwnedDollars Pac that time has no choice but to comply with the said demand since its just two days before the said fight. If you will try to really analyze the fight, one thing that might really affect him was his huge cut he suffer on his eye in the earlier round. It might not only weaken him but rather destruct his vision. Even with the said huge cut, he was not backed off to continue to engage with Morales. He was so persistent on the last round which nearly knocked down Morales.
@BlackOwnedDollars Haven't you notice that his random drug testing was raised on every offensive fighter which has the capability of either beating him up, knocking him down or knocking him out. It started with Pac, then with Mosley & now with Ortiz. Again, the effect of this rigorous testing will not affect him (since he is known as a defensive fighter) but to those above mentioned fighter since the power that could change the fight will be neutralize.
@BlackOwnedDollars Again, this fight which promise to be worth anticipating will demonstrate how this two will pit each other by showing their prowess of their contrasting style. Pac will be tested on how he can able to land on the hard to hit Floyd while Floyd on the other hand on how he can sustain and defy the constant agression of Pac. Isnt this should be the case but Floyd himself want to neutralize that before the fight by having this drug test that Pac claim may weaken him
@BlackOwnedDollars If that will be neutralize to Pac before the fight start, isn't it a non fair disadvantage to him or partially for me personally saying a cheat act on Floyd. Again, as I always counter to you, If floyd is truly confident that he is better than Pac, then he just need to prove it in the ring, the same way Manny will prove it in the ring, and regarding the drug testing, let it delegate to a neutral & highly recognize accredited organization on this matter.
@DROC1474 The delegations should be handled by the OSBT committee which is what Manny should agree to in the first place. How is it that you acknowledge that a higher party should manage it but yet when it comes down to the actual fight taking place you say there should be no test? The nevada state commission loses money if people are not on PEDS because it means that you will not have two fighters able to come in and perform at their best.
@BlackOwnedDollars Bro are you really sure of your accusation. It seems based on your unproven issue, most of the fighters fighting today are accused of taking such. Its so ridiculous now that before Mayweather claim the said top P4P spot, this issue is not being raised. Again, such action has a malice & still doubtful of its true intention. Again, with the development now with Pac camp almost agreeing to the no cut off random test, lets see then how this will lead to the realization of d fight
@BlackOwnedDollars Again another point to ponder here, why is it now that he need to use such a different agency on handling this drug testing issue wherein at his 40 wins, he is totally submissive to NSAC. If we are to follow your observation of every fighter is accused of using such banned substance. Floyd Mayweather should known this on the time he was active & again, he don't use this issue to his former opponent. This only prove that floyd is really had other agenda of this ODST on Pac.
@DROC1474 WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHO TESTS FOR THE FIGHT? Its asinine to even say that because it doesn;t matter. Why does Manny need to now wear 8oz gloves instead of 10? So he can have more power. Why does Manny need to drain fighters in weight? Its so he can have an extra advantage against the people he fights. At the end of the day, OSBT is to make sure nobody cheats.
@BlackOwnedDollars So then let the NSAC or whoever the Commission decides to use to handle this drug testing matter. Pac is just true to his stance that he is open to any drug testing as long its mandated by the Commission. So what is the point of raising the gloves, both of them have already agreed on it, if Floyd had an issue on that he can opt to use his desired gloves suitable for him. Again, catchweight is not an issue as long as its within the weight range of the WW division.
@jordanav yh the media propaganda towards pac is ridiculous i cant imagine what they will be like if pac beats floyd. its all being led by arums bs he knows manny is not as great as ali but he is just trying to make as much money as he can out of pac. When arum was promoting floyd he said he was the greatest since ali
@MrFudawg. pac is knowhere near top 10 all time yet. you cant compare him to duran and leonard let alone the likes of robinson or armstrong. his last 6 opponents have either been past there prime or of a loss. i mean who has he beat. his best win is still barrera. he is still unproven at the highest level against a fellow all time great in his prime. if he beats floyd or martinez at 154 then we can start talking. pacs top 30 max at the minute, maybe lower
@MrJonnyl123 I think Pac is atleast top 20, but no way in hell is he near the likes of Ali,Armstrong or Robinson if he beats Floyd like you say then we can talk that, but this media Pacquiao propagands is getting out of control.
Teddy is a son of a bitch pac hater he could lick floyd mayweather's balls all year long... pac is the best of all time!!! teddy is a fucking asshole, who is jealous of an asian success.
Teddy Atlas is the biggest Pac hater of all. He won't even put Pac in the top 20 greatest boxers. Name your Top 10 or 20, Teddy, and we can argue. Pac belongs in the top 10 greatest boxers of all time. Look at his resume. Ali has 5 losses and he is the greatest.
I definitely agree he lost to Castillo. I think regardless of race, an exciting fighter is an exciting fighter. Every time I watch Pacquaio on paperview, 12 rounds seems to fly by so fast. All my buddies who don't even care about boxing watch him with anticipation. When I saw Mayweather for the 1st time on paperview with Mosley, the only thing that ran through my mind was how can I get my money back. I shut it off after 10 rounds and got laid instead. And he call himself the sport of boxin
Who cares about the 20s, the 30s, and all that history crap about this and that boxers. No one knows who the hell they are and no one cares. Only name I think that is as big as Ali, Tyson, Chavez, Oscar, etc... is Manny. He's the greatest right now. F&Ik the past. He's the best Asain boxer for his weight class. Put sorry talking trash Floyd in there, and he'll end up like Mosley and the rest of the other guys. Floyd never lost b/c he fought sorry ass fighters, doesn't mean he won't lose.
Fuck you teddy, shut the fuck up your hole......
marnene4ever1 3 weeks ago
may 5th,,,,pac man is ducking,,,,,SUCH A SHAME
turkyish 1 month ago
teddy is kinda dumb
jordon666 2 months ago
STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS DONT NO SHIT ABOUT BOXING HE JUST SAID HATTON WAS IN HIS PRIME LOL HATTON WAS IN HIS PRIME VS MAYWEATHER HE WAS LIKE 40 AGAINST PACROID
batalarabe 3 months ago
@batalarabe i knew some worthless nigger scum would type some shit like this. pacquiao has never tested positive for anything. the Illuminati have brainwashed stupid nigger monkeys into seeing mayweather as a hero, even though he beats women, traffics cocaine, gets dumbshit niggers to worship federal reserve notes, and is extremely materialistic.
if you hate Zionist Jews so much, why do you look up to their appointed heroes, listen to shitty rap music ect?
lol at "DONT NO SHIT"
black trash!
blacksixspeed 2 months ago
@batalarabe
will you call me a pactard? i think marquez won this recent match.
will you call me racist? you have all of this Jewish hate-speech on your channel, so i would just like to point our that niggers are the lowest form of life.
i am not Jewish but i KNOW(not NO) that any Jew of any race is superior to worthless nigger trash.
even if mayweather KOs pacquiao, you are still a nigger.
whatever respond with, my ancestors owned yours as slaves faggot.
your entire race is a joke NIGGER FILTH
blacksixspeed 2 months ago
he is crazy pac is a small guy he is suppose to be fast, and talk about explosive what about tyson when has was on the attack?, pac has fought old fighters the last few years, de la hoya, sugar shane, marquez, even morales and barrera were past their primes when they fought pac, margarito they knew he was big and slow, clottey also, and made fighters come down in weight and drain them self, and try to make marquez come up at 38 and they thought that would work for them and it didnt turn out good
LIKWITCREW1 3 months ago
you know dont blame pacman blame bob urum to compare ali to pacman but pac understands that he knows ali is the best.
k1ngdragon411 3 months ago
I would put Pacman between 25-30 only because of his accomplishments, we are talking about 100 years of boxing here, Pacman would have only been known as a great contender if he was around in the 30s, 40s, 70s and 80s. The talent in the divisions back then was amazing
Smythy777 3 months ago
@Smythy777 Dont stop bro....Tell them like it is! It's true. Manny wouldn't even stand a chance in those times!!! Plus there are even more boxing greats that would've for sure gave Pacquiao a bad night. We are looking at Felix Trinidad, Pernell Whitaker, Ray Leonard, Hitman Hearns, Roberto Duran, and the list goes on. If Manny couldn't get finish and decisively defeat Marquez he doesn't deserve to get in the ring with the great Mayweather. Mayweather is too fast and too defensive.
strkx1 2 months ago
atoda...fuck u...bob arum made all the great match-ups...
whitefang0721 3 months ago
Pacman is 8th division champ then he is not one of the great fighter? Cmon man. So Henry Armstrong is not one of the great boxer.
triggerman0622 4 months ago
Pac is not the best or close, dont forget Chavez, Willie Pep, Hagler, Ray Leonard, Ray Robinson, Duran, Hearns, and most of the last fights of Pac have been against past their prime fighters or big and slow fighters, he chose JMM right now cause he is 38 already come on, all the other fighters fought eacther in their prime, Pac had problems with JMM and lost the first to Morlaes so imagine the problem he would have had with chavez or leonard, or halger come on, like he said u suppose to be fast
LIKWITCREW1 4 months ago
Every videos I saw Teddy NEVER give Manny a break. I don't know what Manny did or say to Teddy but I just feel like he never appreciate the work and the accomplishments that Pacman deserve.
kambodiaboz 4 months ago
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Can Paq fans answer 2 simple questions? i just want a real answer not an emotional or a comment that involves ingorance. what fighter has paquiao fought during their primes other than morales who knocked him out? and the 2nd is has paq ever fought a technical/defensive fighter? pls dont name brawlers. actual boxers like floyd or a disciplined zab judah.
matt2fresh84 4 months ago
I would be more inclined to have a conversation about Pacquaio's all time great status, if we had been talking about his place in history before 2008... However, since there was no mention of it before 2008... I have to call it like it like i see it.... CHEATER!
atoda1112 4 months ago
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I know why Manny does NOT want to be Steroids tested! Money!
I know why Roach does NOT want Manny to be tested! Money!
I know why Bob Arum does NOT want Manny tested! Money!
I can't figure out why YOU DON'T want Manny & ALL fighters BLOOD tested? WTF?
This is about FAIRNESS! CREDIBILITY! SAFETY! HISTORY!
In 2011, if you DON'T want the MOST important thing checked(BLOOD); why bother to check ANYTHING?
Why check wraps, gloves, water bottles or anything?
Manny, take the TEST!
rammer257 4 months ago
LOLif Pacqiuao fought in 80's he would have gotten smashed by Duran at lightweight. If he moved up to welterweight Hearns would have took his head off, and Leonard would have toyed with him. Bob Arum doesn't know shit about boxing, Sugar Ray Robinson was as MP and hit harder, and had a better defense.
DDeCouto 4 months ago
teddy atlas is an ex-con, he belongs with the mayweather camp.
kkrr00nnicc420 4 months ago
Arum is a pactard ha ha
MrNgnga 4 months ago
teddy the guy that got frozen
MrRamon53 4 months ago
TEDDY WHERE DO U PUT UR LIMP DICK? TAKE THE VIAGRA TEST U FUCKING OLD FOOL HAHAHAHA
vinz227 5 months ago
Arguello>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pacman
cpanthers88 5 months ago
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Is Bob Arum on pills? hahaha Muhammad Ali??
quetzybanda 5 months ago
Is Bob Arum on pills? hahaha Muhammad Ali??
quetzybanda 5 months ago
The diff. bet. Floyd & Pac, while Floyd was not given a fair shake for not giving a good/exciting fight, Pac himself is not getting the fair shake for giving an exciting fight, dominating & knocking out out his bigger opponents.
Again, even here, Pac is still ahead of May.
DROC1474 5 months ago
For Pac to be accused of using such banned substance by Mayweather just signify that the fighter has accomplished a remarkable/impossible feat above every other average fighter had done.
If Floyd is hesitant to fight b4 because of this unproven accusation, what more he will do if Pac will be proven clean of this accusation.
This are just enough that exposed Mayweather why until now the same tune of TAKE THE TEST is still not materialize.
DROC1474 5 months ago
teddy atlas, why don't i see you make comments after the mayweather-ortiz fight? where is your stupid mouth at? can somebody show me the links to that video?
kkrr00nnicc420 5 months ago 2
TEDDY TELL EM THAT UR DRINKING VIAGRA TO RAISE UR LIMP DICK THATS THE MOST INTERESTING YA OLD FOOL HAHAHA
vinz227 5 months ago
TEDDY HOW TRUE IS IT THAT UR DRINKING VIAGRA FOR UR LIMP DICK??? HAHAHA THATS MORE INTERESTING U OLD FOOL HAHAHA
vinz227 5 months ago
TEDDY ATLAS TALK ABOUT UR LIMP DICK YA INSECT BRAIN HAHAHA U WILL DIE DUMB HAHAHA
vinz227 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you think Teddy Atlas looks like the mutant in the movie "Wrong Turn" :-D
redfighter25 5 months ago
@redfighter25 obviously teddy atlast hates pacman..It shows..he never gave him credit...
belle26ramirez 4 months ago
@belle26ramirez Exactly Belle. Teddy's just jealous he doesn't have a fighter like Manny. &/or he's not half as good as Freddie as a trainer.
redfighter25 4 months ago
why is it floyd gayweather didn't ask any blood test to his previous opponents???
STUPID ALIBI'S .... SHE IS AFRAID OF PACMAN!!! "SHE" IS AFRAID ! IF SHE IS BRAVE ENOUGH.. SHE WILL AGREE TO FIGHT MANNY .. ANYTIME.. ANYWHERE!
sanggabun 5 months ago
teddy atlas likes black asses what do you expect.
remarkable350z 5 months ago
i bet if pacman was an american, obama will put a statue on it...
dhax4800 5 months ago
with teddy atlas way of reasoning about earlier fighters,,that means no one will ever beat those earlier fighters then ! earlier fighters are technically inferior to todays boxers u dimwit !
PLISKEN12 5 months ago
Manny pacquiao's a cherry picker he dosen't deserve to be an ALG
1SugarRayRobinson1 5 months ago
Wow! After a fight w/ HATTON (a ko right) we start talking about him being all-time great. LOL! interesting. Mayweather already took the steam out of that bag when he was undefeated. Once you get ko'ed, it's much easier to ko. But arum is doing his job...WELL as a promoter should.
FucWhyteRacists 5 months ago
Pac is one of the greatest ever but sorry not of all time Im not buying into Arums bullshit hype.
Damondeeh20 6 months ago
@Damondeeh20 theres an explanation to that manny pacquiao made bob arum filthy rich thats why
NoMoreWords86 6 months ago
@NoMoreWords86 Yes he is because when Floyd was making Bob Arum rich, Arum was saying the same stuff about Floyd.
Damondeeh20 5 months ago
wew.Latest news.!FLoyd Gayweather Sr. new hot demands!.he's new demand is manny should not practice in the philippines".WHAAAAT? how about the public service of pacquiao?come on gayweather camp.!
MrAltairee 6 months ago
The problem with you new fight fans especially the Manny group is that your love for him clouds your judgment. Secondly, Manny is not in the truest position to pursue anything (drug test, drug test, drug test). I would encourage you to study contract law and the business of boxing. Then clean up your potty mouth it’s unnecessary and shows a lack proper training
1879gym 6 months ago
and why are you bitching here?
emforty2 6 months ago
Manny Pacquiao refuses to take a drug test. He mandates catch-weights for his opponents for vacant titles and does not defend them. If he can fight a Margartio that comes with 15lbs over him then why does he not fight Sergio Martinez who states he can easily make 154lbs? Why does he force his opponents to weaR 8oz gloves against the standard 10oz gloves used in competitions? The whole things is a charade. 9 years ago Arum said Mayweather>Ali now its Pacquiao. Give me a break honestly.
musood6630 6 months ago
@musood6630Dude its more degrading at all when U claim you're best but U don't have the guts to fight the best. By the way all negotiating factors you mentioned are within the scope & jurisdiction of the Commission. In regards to the gloves, you are misguided that Pac has mandated the use of his 8 oz gloves, if his opponent prefer to use the 10 oz gloves, that can be mutually compromise, the same situation that happened to Pac Vs. Morales 2. Catchweight was use 2 avoid weight mismatches. PEACE
DROC1474 5 months ago
@DROC1474 Look even if Pacquiao has conquered 8 divisions 2 of his 10 titles the Pacific bantamweights are not even for 1 ranked fighters. Pacquiao has never held a lineal title before meaning he just wins the title and vacates. Mayweather has 2 lineal titles. I'm not saying he is better than Pacman but the fight could've been made for a long time all Manny had to do was take the test. Plain and simple. Pacquiao always stipulates a 1million plus penalty per lb to gain a catchweight adv. fact.
musood6630 5 months ago
@musood6630 Dude, Catchweight fight or normal Title fight always have a penalty in case a fighter exceed on d stipulated weight/maximum weight on the Div. they r fighting respectively. I don't need 2 further elaborate on d Title Fight. In regards 2 catchweight, a penalty of 20% (per pound excess)of d agreed purse will be paid by d fighter who comes up overweight, 10% will be given to d Fighter who makes the weight & $10 to commission, its necessary to know that this is subject 2 both of them.
DROC1474 5 months ago
@musood6630 Dude, its unjust & unfair if you claimed that its Pac's fault why the superfight between him & May until now still haven't materialize. If you will try to fairly assess the issues on this drug testing, May is the maker or the break of this fight. He as he claimed himself is the one who do the offering, if he truly want this fight to happen, he should signed the contract first to finally materialize his so called test in Pac outside & inside the ring.
DROC1474 5 months ago
@DROC1474 I understand there are penalties but 10million per pound is fucking insane. That's like half of the purse of Pacquiao and probably more than the other guys who vs him. I'm not blaming it all on Pacquiao. I think Floyd has issues too, I think he's not interested in the fight anymore. But Floyd should give Ortiz a rematch whoop his ass like the 1st fight and then fight Manny. I'm being objective. May 2010 if Pacquiao said yes to the test then it could've been done there and then.
musood6630 5 months ago
@musood6630 Dude, its $10 million if U r going 2 compute d said penalty on d agreed purse of $50 million base on d 20% stipulated in catchweight clause. Personally i respect Floyd skills in terms of his defensive wizardry & his accurate punching skills. But just like you, i & rest of Asians cannot just let pass what Floyd has done to Pac, its his right to accuse Pac but to d fact of his misguided/misinformed/biased remarks on Pac, his defamatory remarks on his home made video r unjustifiable.
DROC1474 5 months ago
@DROC1474 Pacquiao is good. I rate him no.1 in front of Mayweather p4p at the moment. Both fighters have issues and it ticks me off when people go and side with one person or bring up Floyd's personal issues etc. On the net its a hate Floyd zone. I respect both fighters and think they are both good but this fight is almost 3 years overdue. Had they fought 2010 it would've been perfect timing after Floyd beat Mosley and Pacquiao beat Clottey. IF they do fight it's going to be post-prime.
musood6630 5 months ago
@musood6630 Its not Pac's fault if he is the claimed current recognized P4P & the rest of his recognition/titles. His record, & what he can bring to the table are just enough to merit this which he not even asked for. Again, i respect Floyd's accomplishment & what he had done in boxing but isn't it just fair that he settle his greatness towards Pac INSIDE the ring. Win or lose is not shameful at all & 2 lose 2 a 43-0 All Time Great or Lone 8 Div. Champion is already a sweet noble defeat.
DROC1474 5 months ago
@DROC1474 Both fighters will be ranked in the history pages forever. I don't deny Mayweather's antics but at the samet ime your ignoring the fact that Pac refused to take the test last year and that Michael Koncz contradicted Pacquiao by saying if the test goes under 14days they won't take ti. The whole situation is a huge mess with boss sides to blame. Floyd on his behalf is doing nothing to get the fight going- he's being counterproductive and I fully understand his detriments aswell.
musood6630 5 months ago
@DROC1474 Bob Arum has no right saying Pacquiao is > Ali because he said the same thinga bout Floyd 4years earlier. It makes no sense. Pacquiao is in the top 40 so is Mayweather (a bit behind Pac). But the truth is Pacquiao was the problem last year and now the problem is more on Mayweather than Pacquiao. Easy solution is for the WBC to mandate Floyd to either vs Ortiz or Manny OR have his title stripped. And for WBO to do the same for Pacquiao. But of course fighters are too powerful now.
musood6630 5 months ago
@musood6630 By now, its time 2 set aside all d blames, pinpointing, etc, since in some way as what we said both sides have their share that caused d cancellation of this mega fight. What we could hope now that aft. Pac surpass his trilogy w/Marquez, respective camp may set aside their ego's & meet halfway 2 finally realize ds. Whatever at stakes on ds superfight, its d FANS, US the reason why ds 2 exceptional fighters r there. Due Credit is already given 2 them 4 making ds fight happen.
DROC1474 5 months ago
@DROC1474 I hope Pacman really dishes some whooping on Marquez and then presto we can begin negotiations. Floyd has no fight coming up for all we know and Pacquiao's road is ambigious. It's time that the two sides grow balls come to the table and finally negotiate a fight. Honestly it's been almost 3 years now. 2009 talk started. Now its getting ridiculous. It's so lucrative that people are leaving boxing based on the neglect of the 2 biggest fighters. This means bad news for future stars.
musood6630 5 months ago
@musood6630 Its so biased and ridiculous that Pac haters always jump in an unproven accusation & how this drug testing proc. turn out to be. FACT is, Floyd himself is inconsistent/unstable on how this drug testing should be finalized. His recent actions just showed us that he fooled us thrice. Again, if this is still not enough for his followers to realize, its only a FANATIC or simply hopeless & irreversibly dumb who will acknowledge this.
DROC1474 5 months ago
the answer here is simple manny is not the best but give him the best and he will win the best
MultiHephep 6 months ago
Manny cant be compare to anybody else because Manny has gone through hardships that made him great to what he is now and this guys talking are just LOOSERS AND mANNY NEVER SAID i AM tHE gREATEST HE NEVER SAID THAT ITS THE PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT MANNY IS AN ALL TIME GREAT AND MANN Y IS ONE OF AN ALL TIME GREAT. HE IS SO HUMBLE AND HAS HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE WHERE NO BOXER HAD EVER DONE LIKE MANNY IS DOING .
laggy1000 6 months ago
teddy's one envious motherfucker.
the most biased boxing commentator in the history of boxing
akosihelbert 6 months ago
pacquiao stands in number 15. in my view
simmple11111 7 months ago
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@simmple11111 manny is not the best but give him the best and he will win the best
MultiHephep 6 months ago
BHops boy (Shane Mosley) got his ass handed to him by Pacquiao. And Teddy is still SO jealous of Manny. You can tell by the way he tries to bash him. That is because he is in love with Floyd!! HAHAHAHAHA
booya7211 7 months ago
Pac makes my top 20 of all time greats at number 14. Good fighter but many Flaws and very overated. In order to be the greatest fighter of all time u have to be the best of your era and This is Mannys era and He ist the best Floyd mayweather is. But I give Manny his props for exciting fights, and offensive pressure and 7 captures of world tittles
dimecity317 7 months ago
@dimecity317 manny is not the best but give him the best and he will win the best fighter and correction its 8 world titles
MultiHephep 6 months ago
@MultiHephep That made no sense ur sayin hes not the best but he can beat the best. Floyd Maywheather wud beat him and so wud sergio Martinez so dude is not the best he protected by Freddy Roach avoiding fighters that can beat him
dimecity317 5 months ago
@dimecity317 because manny improves every time the challenge gets tougher thats the reality we saw that in his previous fights
and search this in youtube A simple message to Floyd Mayweather Jr. from Freddie Roach
so tell me who is ducking and who was being protected here are you sure roach is avoiding boxers who can beat manny know first before you comment
MultiHephep 5 months ago
@MultiHephep Dude u are a strait clown real talk. Freddy Roach is a fuckin mastermind at picing easy fights for this bum thats why they still work wit Bob Arum to protect Manny. They take fighters comin off of ko losses, or they dehyrate them down to 147 then put in the contract that they cant rehydrate for the final weigh in. Mosely was thirsty, so was De la hoya, Coto comin off of loss, Margarito comin off of loss, Every since he got to welterweight he became a bitch wit fight selection
dimecity317 5 months ago
@dimecity317 yeah you are right about some point. but those fighters u mentioned they all call pacquiao... pacquiao didnt call them...... so welcome to pacland. u will play his game if u want pacquiao. that's being smart in the world of boxing. btw im a boxer that's the sports nature. if ever u call somebody he will not play your game. you will play his game. that's why floyd vs pacquiao isnt happening. nobody wants to play the others game. got my point? tnx bro
ForME4mi 4 months ago
@ForME4mi So the fuck what. I see ur point but its not very strong. Theres tons of fighters that call out Pac, thats where the money is at. If ur the best why not fight the guys that comin off of impressive wins, Wen Floyd is not around theres no tough welterweights, He shud go down to fight Tim Bradley or go up to fight Sergio Martinez or Andrae Ward. Hes impressive for the show he puts on for the fans but without an impressive win at welterweight he will never be the best. Floyd is!!!
dimecity317 4 months ago
@dimecity317 andre ward? wtf? man i wont argue with you that's just pure shit there saying pacquiao to fight andre ward.
ForME4mi 4 months ago
@ForME4mi Thats cuz u have a lot to learn about boxing. Good thing Im here to show u the ropes
dimecity317 4 months ago
@dimecity317 hahahaha! andre ward? yeah i got your point i dont have time to talk to u, andre ward fighting pacquiao?..even if u asked every1 u are ignorant to that matter. thats just absurd.well.so long!
ForME4mi 4 months ago
@ForME4mi Dude go do something with ur life. I thought u wud have an argument like everyone else does, all u can say is how stupid it is for the fight , u cleary dont see my point.
dimecity317 4 months ago
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@dimecity317 PAC's been fighting fighters in the top 10. d guy earned everything the hard way. he just makes fights look so easy thats y people like u think he's not fighting d best. BARRERA, MORALES, MARQuez, COTTO, HATTON, CLOTTEY, and now MArgarito. u kidding me? r u suggesting these people are nobodies. check out the RING MAGAZINE and ul see in the last few years these fighters are in the top 10 and some of them are most avoided and feared
MultiHephep 6 months ago
Manny Pacquiao will never in my mind be thought of as a great fighter. Good yes but he has two large problems. One of he created entirely by himself, the refusal to take a real drug test with the variety of excuses he offered! #2 he lacks the versatility that true champions have. Good guy and solid B fighter but without any malice his legacy is very clouded by the steroids problems!
1879gym 7 months ago
@1879gym PAC's been fighting fighters in the top 10. d guy earned everything the hard way. he just makes fights look so easy thats y people like u think he's not fighting d best. BARRERA, MORALES, MARQuez, COTTO, HATTON, CLOTTEY and MArgarito. u kidding me? r u suggesting these people are nobodies. check out the RING MAGAZINE and ul see in the last few years these fighters are in the top 10 and some of them are most avoided and feared and manny agree to take the drug test to shut gayweather
MultiHephep 6 months ago
@1879gym do more research before you comment so that you will not look like a shit and manny is the one who is pursing the fight
MultiHephep 6 months ago
Funny how in just a few years he goes from a nobody to ATG. How? He beat up an old washed up Oscar, Damaged goods in Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto. A past prime Mosely who he ducked for two years, Margarito who didn't deserve the fight and Joshua Clottey who didn't deserve it either. So now what? He's fighting JMM for the third time past his prime? No Martinez, no Bradley? Why? So its ok when Manny fights people past their prime yet if Floyd does it, he's wrong?
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars u can also mention pacman started at the lowest weight class and went all the way up to welter and dominating them all. hes also growing older just like the others but is increasingly getting faster and better
AsianBaskero 7 months ago
@AsianBaskero He fights guys who he has many advantages over.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
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@BlackOwnedDollars well if it was up to him, he'd fight anyone
AsianBaskero 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars What advantages are you claiming?
DROC1474 7 months ago
@AsianBaskero Are you saying he gets faster and better in essence of saying he is a cheater, or that he's getting better and faster because he's an ATG? Im not sure what point you're driving at. Because if you're trying to say that it does not seem odd that he has gotten faster and stronger while aging then i bid to you that it does not happen that way and you're supposed to slow down.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Sir, i want to correct U in ur point of pac become faster & stronger when he moves up in weight. It is a fact that d speed & power is still there, but it does not mean that he become more stronger & faster. As evidence on his fight with the notable fighter in cotto & Margarito, it is evident that Pac is faster than them. The big difference while he moves up in weight is his becoming a complete two fisted fighter with lots of added arsenal aside from his constant aggression.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars hes great. not ATG
AsianBaskero 7 months ago
@AsianBaskero Good, not Great
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars if hes good then everyone else right now sucks
AsianBaskero 7 months ago
@AsianBaskero I agree.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars You forgot to mention he beat Barrera twice and Morales twice as well.
Regset 7 months ago
@Regset Yeah, an old Morales washed up beyond belief.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
erik morales was not thought washed up until he lost to Manny. He is only two years older and lost when he was like 30. The first Barrera fight, Marco was in his prime. Miguel Cotto to this day is considered one of the best. Manny is far from overrated
BoxingGuru1000 7 months ago
@BoxingGuru1000 Morales was drained beyond recognition and was washed up that night. Cotto, had nothing left and everybody including Pacquiaos trainer knew it
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars The difference with Pac to Floyd is that Pac's excuse after the fight while Floyd had so many excuses even before the fight start (pertaining to his soon to be fight with Pac). Morales weight drained? It was the same weight that Morales beat Pac in their first outing and the same weight Pac give Morales his first legitimate knockdown and knock out on the rest of their trilogy. Both of them are weighing averaging 140+ on the fight night itself for the said trilogy.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Pacquiao has nothing but excuses. All i hear is he was afraid of needles, he hates drawing blood, he feels woozy after taking blod all they take is a tablespoon. That is an excuse right there. It can be the biggest truth that he feels sick after doing so but the fact is its an excuse and no matter what Pacquiao has all the excuses in the world for not taking the test and Mayweather has one request
TAKE THE FUCKING BLOOD TEST. WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT IT?
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Whatever the Pac haters or Floyd's followers said about the excuses of Pac regarding this random drug testing, still it doesn't validate or conclude to the point that Pac is hiding something. THE FACT remains that Pac himself had been tested negative of such accusation eversince. THE BOLD FACT shows that Mayweather's tact of this random drug testing is an indication of a threatened fighter. A threat that he already concede if this fight happens.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Don't worry Pac and his camp will now fulfill soon the lone ace of Mayweather on his no cut off random drug testing matter. We just hope after fulfilling this we will see who is the one really dodging the fight. And if the fight should materialize, we will then see who is truly the greatest between them. Win or lose, due credit is already given to them by making this fight happen.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars The same old pattern of excuse on Pac dominance on the lower weight class - over the hill, washed up, past his prime, old , etc and the recent excuse on Pac dominance on the welterweight class (which Floyd for the past five years have not yet faced the legitimate top welterweight except for Mosley) - used of steroids, PED's etc. Pac's haters will never run out of criticism no matter who Pac faced.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Okay then. So who's your top p4p fighter out right now?
Regset 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars The difference between Pac to Mayweather is while Pac busy fighting & dismantling those left over of Floyd & also to those he claimed left overs by others, May himself is just busy finding an unending excuse on avoiding to fight the said beaten warrior (not left over) by Pac.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars That's where you're wrong. Pac may come from a 3rd world country, but he had already proven himself on d Asian region before he made a shock of waves on the US. His initial shock was a demolishing knock out on Pride of South Africa on Ledwaba where he came a week replacement. Because of his explosiveness & non stop action in his every fight that caught the attention of the US Media. After he upset & dismantle the top featherweight in Barrera, that's where his greatness start.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Plus the thing that he is now comfortable w/ his weight now w/c is really his actual/usual weight when he was still on super feather weight & lightweight. With this actual weight, he don't have d discomfort of dehydrating himself. He's fighting JMM the third time to close the unfinished business on them. Marquez is not past his prime, he just beat & dominate d younger fighters in Juan Diaz & Katsidis after d loss to Floyd. Marquez is not a left over but a true warrior indeed.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 I really dont care for what you typed. I dont care about all of what you say because quite honestly at the end of the day all he has is reasons, and excuses and nothing but responses as to why they can't do shit. Now that Bob Arum grows closer to not having other fighters for Pacquiao to face he feels that OSBT isn't good enough because the people who administer the test might rule against Manny because he isn't American
In other news, i cant bribe those people so i dont want them
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Excuses, excuses. Isn't it regarding this fight between him and Manny, its Mayweather who started it all this irrelevant excuses citing Pac as this & that. As what we've argued on other threads, this drug testing should now be handled by the proper in charge. Its just fair for Arum to look for a neutral party which WADA is the rightful candidate. WADA is the most neutral organization on this matter and USADA is just under this WADA.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars You are questtioning Arum's looking for a neutral party on how this random drug testing should be handled, isn't it also the same action that we need to ask Mayweather's sudden use of USADA on this drug testing against the NSAC whom he had abide eversince he had start his career as a boxer.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Ok so help me get to the bottom of this, how could hundreds of boxers been able to pass the test while on PEDS.
It can only be three things: Either the commission knew and didn't care because they made money
The test itself was outdated and couldnt do anything to the new tests that were out
or they were too incompetent to do their job. But give me an answer as to why so many people were able to pass such a legit test?
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Dude, again you are creating another issue yet to prove. You are accusing NSAC, the same organization that tested Mayweather (and he adhere) from the time he start his professional career in boxing. I'll may agree with you that there might be some fine tuning that need to be made in their testing but it doesn't prove your point that the Commission don't care on the athletes involve in contact sport.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 You cant ACCUSE an organization of doing something that was proven to be true. Its proven that hundreds of boxers cheated. I ask you, why were hundreds of boxers allowed to cheat the test? There is no fine tuning that needs to be done because when so many people are able to cheat the test it's telling of how the commission runs its business. You try to swipe it away because you know im right and to admit im right would mean to find flaw in Pacquiaos decision and to admit Floyd is right
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars TRUE, GREAT and Gallant Warrior is TESTED INSIDE THE RING, and not on the TEST OUTSIDE THE RING. If we really want to see who hold the said character among Pac and Floyd, why not we ask a random fight between them INSIDE THE RING instead of the random blood test that Floyd is persistently insisting. Let see then who will rise to the challenge & who will dodge the fight. This is the TRUE TEST that will further show the TRUTH & the TRUE FIGHTER & a WARRIOR between them.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 See, what you're trying to do is say its ok if Manny is cheating. I dont care if Manny isn't tested for PEDS because i want to see him win that badly. You're just being unreasonable because you know Floyd is too much for him. A true TRUE WARRIOR doesn't hide behind the suspicion of a blood test. A TRUE WARRIOR takes the test, passes it, then beats up the other guy for DARING to besmirch his good name. THATS WHAT HOLYFIELD DID TO TYSON and GUESS WHAT? Holyfield cheated as well
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Sorry i forgot to add something, after the RANDOM Fight have been made, this will not be complete without a thorough BLOOD & URINE test afterward to further determine that the Victor of the said random fight is Clean & Free from any PED/Steroid Use. Are you satisfied with this Now?
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Why test them after and not during? After would be too late. Imagine Floyd on a new age PED that allows him to take punishment as well as become faster than he was at 130 and Manny lost to him only to find out a day or weeks later Floyd was cheating. It's null and void because at the end of the day they wont take the W off of Floyds record. He will just be labeled a cheater and it will mean nothing because you still witnessed Floyd win a fight and Manny take a beating
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Are you kidding me? Who is the stupid boxer in the planet will do that knowing that they will be tested after the fight? Isn't it a waste of time, money and mostly honor knowing that there is no way you will get away with it to think it will be a random fight.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars If there is anything suspicious on this no cut off date blood test, it was Floyd. He is the one indeed the cheater hiding on his TEST which termed as a malicious and a deceptive ploy that will be used as an added advantage on him. Again, if his true intention is just to deter Pac of using this PED, why not used the daily unlimited urine testing up to the fight if there is some issues on blood being drawn fr. pac? Isn't this enough to detect if Pac is really positive of PED.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Because Urine isn't enough. The urine was unlimited but the blood has to be done as well. Plenty of people took drugs knowing they were going to get tested. Roy Jones JR did it. He wasn't kicked out of boxing or stripped of anything during his reign in the sport
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Urine is not enough if its just random but to make this daily within three months up to the fight, do you think there is no way that this option can detect if a fighter will be guilty of using such banned substance. Roy Jones may get away with it because there is no media watching on the said testing. This is different from the fight bet. Manny & Floyd since this testing had already takes a world wide coverage & global attention.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars If Floyd is too much for Pac, then why this random blood testing of him still be his undying excuse or his so called to even the playing field. Why then let his skills of being a good defensive guru proves it in the ring to the offensive fighter in Pac. Again, Pac is not hiding on Floyd so called test, its just Mayweather's changing condition of how this ODST will be instituted that confused not only Pac but to US fans as well.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 He never changed anything, Pacquiao agreed to the test. He just wanted to know when he would take the blood tests and did not want the testing to be random. Which is why he did not agree. At the end of the day, there would have been NO WAY AT ALL for Floyd to know that asking for a blood test would have made Manny back out of the fight. The only person with excuses are pacquiao and his fans.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars How can you explain then the Action of Mayweather when he was asked to response on the ultimatum set by the Pac camp when they are almost agreed to the initial 14 days random test by Mayweather on their initial agreement. Again, why he need to change the said 14 random days to up to the day up to the fight. What is the difference of the said 14 days to d 19 days that May and Mosley random test on their fight?Might be your reply will be Floyd is just cutting them a better deal
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 They proposed 14 days, Bob Arum flew to Manilla and gave the contract to Manny, then fight was canceled and they signed for the Clottey fight 3 days after.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars The one that im pointing out is the 2nd & 3rd negotiation on mid of 2010 after Pac beat clottey & Floyd beat Mosley. Again, this is just sign of Floyd of his stance with this fight, everytime Pac was almost complying with his demands and making the fight nearly happen, he will come up with new condition of up to the day of the fight this random blood testing should be implemented.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 They didn't want a 14 day cutoff at the first negotiation, then to make it seem as if nothing was wrong they asked for the 14 day negotiation after they turned it down the first time which makes no sense. After that there were no more negotiations. Bob Arum is just making shit up and was caught in a lie when asked if he made further negotiations he said yes when really it was untruthful so again. Floyd is the one not lying.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Please tell me how Floyd is cheating? The demand from the start has always been random blood testing so there would be no way for Floyd to have known that Manny would have denied the fight if the test would have been agreed upon.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Floyd knew that there is an issue in Pac of being blood withdrawn from him. Again, i don't need to elaborate more on this, the video was still posted in youtube pointing this as a part of his loss to Morales 1. Its a fact indeed that such rigorous blood testing which now Floyd insist will really weaken any boxer in any manner, this is the situation that Pac don't want to get into again, cause he knows he need to be physically prepared when he face Floyd.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 Pacquiao said he lost to Morales because of his gloves, then because of the blisters on his feet, then saying he didn't like to draw blood. SO WHICH ONE WAS IT. If drawing blood was such a bad thing that messes up his performance then he would of never agreed to taking the test at any point and would not have negotiated further because no matter what, it stops how well he can perform.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Pac that time has no choice but to comply with the said demand since its just two days before the said fight. If you will try to really analyze the fight, one thing that might really affect him was his huge cut he suffer on his eye in the earlier round. It might not only weaken him but rather destruct his vision. Even with the said huge cut, he was not backed off to continue to engage with Morales. He was so persistent on the last round which nearly knocked down Morales.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Haven't you notice that his random drug testing was raised on every offensive fighter which has the capability of either beating him up, knocking him down or knocking him out. It started with Pac, then with Mosley & now with Ortiz. Again, the effect of this rigorous testing will not affect him (since he is known as a defensive fighter) but to those above mentioned fighter since the power that could change the fight will be neutralize.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Again, this fight which promise to be worth anticipating will demonstrate how this two will pit each other by showing their prowess of their contrasting style. Pac will be tested on how he can able to land on the hard to hit Floyd while Floyd on the other hand on how he can sustain and defy the constant agression of Pac. Isnt this should be the case but Floyd himself want to neutralize that before the fight by having this drug test that Pac claim may weaken him
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars If that will be neutralize to Pac before the fight start, isn't it a non fair disadvantage to him or partially for me personally saying a cheat act on Floyd. Again, as I always counter to you, If floyd is truly confident that he is better than Pac, then he just need to prove it in the ring, the same way Manny will prove it in the ring, and regarding the drug testing, let it delegate to a neutral & highly recognize accredited organization on this matter.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 The delegations should be handled by the OSBT committee which is what Manny should agree to in the first place. How is it that you acknowledge that a higher party should manage it but yet when it comes down to the actual fight taking place you say there should be no test? The nevada state commission loses money if people are not on PEDS because it means that you will not have two fighters able to come in and perform at their best.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Bro are you really sure of your accusation. It seems based on your unproven issue, most of the fighters fighting today are accused of taking such. Its so ridiculous now that before Mayweather claim the said top P4P spot, this issue is not being raised. Again, such action has a malice & still doubtful of its true intention. Again, with the development now with Pac camp almost agreeing to the no cut off random test, lets see then how this will lead to the realization of d fight
DROC1474 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars Again another point to ponder here, why is it now that he need to use such a different agency on handling this drug testing issue wherein at his 40 wins, he is totally submissive to NSAC. If we are to follow your observation of every fighter is accused of using such banned substance. Floyd Mayweather should known this on the time he was active & again, he don't use this issue to his former opponent. This only prove that floyd is really had other agenda of this ODST on Pac.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 WHAT DOES IT MATTER WHO TESTS FOR THE FIGHT? Its asinine to even say that because it doesn;t matter. Why does Manny need to now wear 8oz gloves instead of 10? So he can have more power. Why does Manny need to drain fighters in weight? Its so he can have an extra advantage against the people he fights. At the end of the day, OSBT is to make sure nobody cheats.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@BlackOwnedDollars So then let the NSAC or whoever the Commission decides to use to handle this drug testing matter. Pac is just true to his stance that he is open to any drug testing as long its mandated by the Commission. So what is the point of raising the gloves, both of them have already agreed on it, if Floyd had an issue on that he can opt to use his desired gloves suitable for him. Again, catchweight is not an issue as long as its within the weight range of the WW division.
DROC1474 7 months ago
@DROC1474 The NSAC can do it, it has to be RANDOM OSBT.
BlackOwnedDollars 7 months ago
@Jsicken In his prime/
1st time he won the belt name a boxer that would beat him.
STEEZYPRETTYBOi 7 months ago
ohh please manny is no muhammd ali
ajp135212 8 months ago
Archie old mongoose Moore was good to. Henry Armstrong too
bthomas985 8 months ago
All I have to say is in the record books (fact) one of the greatest off all ... No matter what anyone thinks 8MP ... thats all folks ......
john57viking 8 months ago
@jordanav yh the media propaganda towards pac is ridiculous i cant imagine what they will be like if pac beats floyd. its all being led by arums bs he knows manny is not as great as ali but he is just trying to make as much money as he can out of pac. When arum was promoting floyd he said he was the greatest since ali
MrJonnyl123 8 months ago
BERNARD HOPKINS WAS RIGHT PERIOD !!
LUCKY4908 8 months ago
@MrFudawg. pac is knowhere near top 10 all time yet. you cant compare him to duran and leonard let alone the likes of robinson or armstrong. his last 6 opponents have either been past there prime or of a loss. i mean who has he beat. his best win is still barrera. he is still unproven at the highest level against a fellow all time great in his prime. if he beats floyd or martinez at 154 then we can start talking. pacs top 30 max at the minute, maybe lower
MrJonnyl123 8 months ago
@MrJonnyl123 I think Pac is atleast top 20, but no way in hell is he near the likes of Ali,Armstrong or Robinson if he beats Floyd like you say then we can talk that, but this media Pacquiao propagands is getting out of control.
jordanav 8 months ago
teddy atlas=pound 4pound king hater......
arvilbags1 8 months ago
Pac is the best. nuff said haters.
MrFudawg 8 months ago
@MrFudawg great but not the best...chill with that, tyson and roy jones were way way way way more dominiant then he was,
ajp135212 8 months ago
Teddy is a son of a bitch pac hater he could lick floyd mayweather's balls all year long... pac is the best of all time!!! teddy is a fucking asshole, who is jealous of an asian success.
SuperBravo04 8 months ago
@SuperBravo04 pacquiao is no way in hell the best of all time ali wouldnt get his ass whooped by marquez twice
1cwa 8 months ago
@itchygonads You are a fucking idiot two. manny pacquiao is welterweight, ofcourse he would be faster than mohammed ali you fool.
p.s The thai Singsurat who bet Pacroids is fucking homsexual now. he's one of those lady boys this one no jokes. . bwahahahaha.
kangluke1992 8 months ago
FUCK UP BOB! Ask Pacquiao to take 7 rounds of punishment from George foreman, 14 rounds of Punishment from Joe Frazier, 15 rounds of Earnie shaver.
ALI, GREATEST OF ALL TIME! GREATEST OF ALL TIMME!!
kangluke1992 9 months ago
@kangluke1992 You are a fucking idiot. They are heavyweights, ofcourse he wouldnt be able to do that you fool.
itchygonads 9 months ago
Teddy is an A**hole.
MrFudawg 9 months ago
Hokins was sooo right!!!
7igoprinze 9 months ago
Teddy Atlas is the biggest Pac hater of all. He won't even put Pac in the top 20 greatest boxers. Name your Top 10 or 20, Teddy, and we can argue. Pac belongs in the top 10 greatest boxers of all time. Look at his resume. Ali has 5 losses and he is the greatest.
MrFudawg 9 months ago
@MrFudawg i agree,,,,
bbblopez 9 months ago
@MrFudawg losses to great fighters and he avenged 3 of them manny got 2 losses ko lossses i might add to bums that he never avenged learn boxing
1cwa 8 months ago
No one would even know the name Teddy Atlas if it weren't for Tyson..... Teddy Atlas! LMAO!
imax1971 9 months ago
Get a time machine teddy you belong to the past. Relic >D
HoraciosN70 9 months ago
I definitely agree he lost to Castillo. I think regardless of race, an exciting fighter is an exciting fighter. Every time I watch Pacquaio on paperview, 12 rounds seems to fly by so fast. All my buddies who don't even care about boxing watch him with anticipation. When I saw Mayweather for the 1st time on paperview with Mosley, the only thing that ran through my mind was how can I get my money back. I shut it off after 10 rounds and got laid instead. And he call himself the sport of boxin
cdn20782 9 months ago
Who cares about the 20s, the 30s, and all that history crap about this and that boxers. No one knows who the hell they are and no one cares. Only name I think that is as big as Ali, Tyson, Chavez, Oscar, etc... is Manny. He's the greatest right now. F&Ik the past. He's the best Asain boxer for his weight class. Put sorry talking trash Floyd in there, and he'll end up like Mosley and the rest of the other guys. Floyd never lost b/c he fought sorry ass fighters, doesn't mean he won't lose.
cdn20782 9 months ago