@MrJoshLatner I posted (way back), that PG did something entirely unique with this song that EC NEVER accomplished with it. I'd like to turn you onto something unexpected.
Steve Miller has a little known blues song I played to hundreds of times, and it's also a great performance. Check out:
@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
Peter Green did a really nice version of "The Stumble", but many years later, Gary Moore took what Green did, built on it, and played it as well as you could EVER hear it. Since he originally played it, Peter Green NEVER improved it even to this day.
Hey Thistles those early on are cassettes-- have to convert them to mp3 files. If you guys want to listen to players to learn from--Mike Bloomfield--Elvin Bishop--( who I drank beers, shared licks and pretzels with many yrs. back ) Mick Taylor ( Stones--very melodic player at times ) who I sat with about 4-5 yrs. ago. Want to get a great handle on playing guitar and BLUES listen to Larry Carlton lessons. He can get more out of ONE note than all these new shredder guys get out of a hundred !
@bluesatbirth We're both Larry Carlton fans. Here's something I never expected to see: Larry Carlton playing drums with "The Band", as 2nd drummer with Levon. Keep watchcing. Larry sings a verse, too.lol (For real)
watch?v=Ism9itDvKTk
(Since you've watched his lessons, and perhaps seen interviews with him, you might know that LC has a great respect for certain drummers. Still, finding this little gem was quite unexpected. You can't find it in Wiki on Larry's Page or on other LC "Bio's").
@yourtreat2 It's amazing to me --I mention LC to so called players and they look at me puzzled. I wish 90 % of the players out there---even the "stars" would listen ( if they can hear ) to LC--they could actually LEARN. Too many guys today just play the note--it's like connect the dots--there are MANY ways to play a note--( it's called articulation, nuance picking, character ) then too many play too many notes--then there are those that listen--but they really DON"T HEAR !
Going to take you back to 1974 and show you one of the best guitarists in the world.
watch?v=_-QZnnaI7rY
watch?v=x6sxvext9c8
If you want to understand other forms of music, you need to listen, even to what you mistakenly call shredding. John Mclaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra (1974) did something nobody had EVER heard.
What you think is a modern phenomenon has its roots in music that goes back thousands of years, and can be easily heard (by a trained ear), in Indian music, too.
@yourtreat2 Mistakenly or not --it does not in any way shape or form appeal to me--for my taste shredding or call it whatever you choose is not what I enjoy listening to. I prefer players that play notes that have a connection to the tune they are performing--I prefer emotional playing--playing what comes from within--not some technical display of a MYRIAD OF MEANINGLESS NOTES. I play from within--if you don't feel it--don't play it.
@bluesatbirth You listened to John M in 2 minutes??? You're missing out on a very talented guitarist.
John does NOT do shredding. He hits EVERY NOTE.
Yngwie Malmsteen style is completely different. He ALSO does NOT shred. He uses pull offs from EACH FINGER TO THE NEXT so he can traverse the fretboard by only hitting each of the six strings one time each.
Listen to J. Satrioni jam Stormy Monday with L. West, and hear what West teaches Satrioni what can be done with 1 note: watch?v=r5ry7AnFarY
@yourtreat2 I don't care what you call it--shredding--or traverse picking--all of those guys don't do a thing for my musical ear. Hitting every note--and way too many of them is a technical ability--doesn't meant that they are a great guitarist. That jam with LW ( who I met when we recorded at Les P's studio back in the 70's ( Les's son was our engineer ) & Joe S actually bores me --it is so repetitious--kind of reminds me of the boring jam with SW & EC at the Chicago C/R festival.
@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
Observe GM. Watch his picking with his right hand. DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.DOWN.DOWN.
Always down
watch?v=B0nKJFVVoYM
Stylistically, he is entirely unlike Clapton excepting the fact that EC GM, and SRV ALL play major and minor pentatonic scales. Yet the playing is entirely unique, with styles entirely unlike each other
Get beyond the vocals and listen to the guitar. (You do it in your own group.)
Another relevant point. GM VARIES volume, EC NEVER does.
@yourtreat2 I don't care whether he picks up-down or sideways--he is playing AK licks. EC does not appeal to me--he was at his best with CREAM when he was creative and played with "SNOT"--go back and listen to Bloomfield & Bishop on East West--they were using-major--major p and minor p scales--before any of these other guys were--they were unique. You have your likes & interpretations--I have mine. I stick with creative players --that move me--and I can tell within seconds who will.
Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
@yourtreat2 Never said they were crapola--just not what I like to listen to. I like a more creative approach--Larry Carlton, Earl Klugh, Keith of the Stones--Mike Bloomfield--early Elvin Bishop--John Hammond Jr.--electric-- listened to JB back in the 80's--different--yes--read the book This Is Your Brain On Music--Daniel Levitan--it will give you an insight as to where I am at musically--compared to many other " listeners "
@bluesatbirth "Never said they were crapola--just not what I like to listen to. I like a more creative approach"
Actually, what you said is that you dislike a more crative approach. That is other styles of playing.
In fact, of the players you named, ALL OF THEM stick to the 5 note minor and major pentatonic scales.leaving the , musician with far fewer notes & scales to choose from.
Stylistically speaking, the J. Batton Vid gives a range of scales and techniques to play them, & some shredding
@yourtreat2 You listen but you're not hearing ! Carlton & Klugh use many different scales as well as modes.Bloomie & Bishop were using MP-mP-modes--listen and try to figure out the guitar work on East West. It is harder to create over less chords--that's why so many players sound the same--they copy other players licks--they can't create--other styles of playing--I don't hear a lot of that. You really should read the book I suggested.
@bluesatbirth Yeah. I absolutely agree Carlton & Klugh use many different scales as well as modes, I was really talking about some of the guys in the earlier posts.
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying.
@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
Bassist of Waather Report "Jaco Pastorius live 1979 Improv": watch?v=H3tLLzSGd2o
Since you probably have no idea what that group is. Check this out. BTW, The high notes are NOT guitar, thay are played on bass. Uploads of a live performance is on YT.
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying.
@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
@bluesatbirth Bassist of Waather Report "Jaco Pastorius live 1979 Improv": watch?v=H3tLLzSGd2o
Since you probably have no idea what that group is. Check this out. BTW, The high notes are NOT guitar, thay are played on bass. Uploads of a live performance is on YT.
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying
@yourtreat2 It's the meaningless myriad of notes that I object to--I play fast passages--when it belongs to the tune I'm playing. I'm not playing fast to impress the musically brain dead listeners. I'm playing thru my fingers what emotions are working thru me and the tune. Go back and listen to Andres Segovia conduct a master class--and explains to students how the note should be played with feeling--not just played. There is a difference !
@yourtreat2 What a stupid comment. I listen to many talented players--not just guitar and not just slow blues. If you actually read any of my posts you would know that. I got my first taste--( age 10 ) Andres Segovia--Bloomie, Bishop early electric John Hammond--I like Earl Klugh--Larry C--Ronnie Earl--Johnny Copeland--slide whiz Roy Rogers--Stan Getz--Brubeck--David sanborn--Bruce katz--there are many, many more. I have a very deep appreciation for music--55 yrs. and counting.
@bluesatbirth Actually, the stupidity is in your own inability to comprehend other forms of music. You call them an "incomprehensible myriad of notes". That's stupidity. Well, at least it's ignorance.
@yourtreat2 There is no point in trying to get thru to another one of the SHEEP that is MUSICALLY BRAIN DEAD--you are in that group. It is not ignorance. My MUSIC appreciation began at an early age. Today I am sought out and recognized for my passion, emotion, and true deep understanding of MUSIC not only as a performer--vocally and with my guitar--as well as a teacher--guitar, slide,harp vocals, song writing. I recognize that--CREATIVITY IS INDIVIDUALITY !
@bluesatbirth As someone that began playing at more than twice the age that I began playing 3 different instruments, touting the idea that you are uniquely gifted and qualified to know something special is insipid.
I had instruction in 3 differnet instruments and been playing 7 years before you even began.
Additionally, as you claim you don't like "shredding" because it's not expressive, simply shows your own ignorance of Indian, Spanish, Blues, Rock, etc.You're simply bone-headed.. .
@yourtreat2So you began playing at the age of 3 ? What--pots & pans. Fast passages and shredding are not the same--I play fast passages when they are part of what my emotions have me play thru my fingers. Shredding---if you can HEAR--they all start sounding the same--just like connect the note copy cat players.Read the BOOK--THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON MUSIC--Daniel Levitan--perhaps then you will see the light at the end of the tunnel--???
@yourtreat2 Just proves your inmaturity--and your lack of accepting someone else's VALID OPINIONS--I didn't want to say this before --but my musical creativity would run circles around you and many of the copy cat people you listen to. You don't even read my posts--if you did you would know that I play fast passages--when my emotion sends that to my fingers--but it's always part of the song--I HAVE A CONNECTION TO MUSIC--WHICH YOU DON"T HAVE. Go find a woodshed !
Probably the greatest Telecaster player Danny Gatton plays Blues Newberg, and shreds the shit out of it: watch?v=mYK13NPAvks
Jennifer Batten unloads a myriad of styles to a background bliues track, and shreds with the skill of a master: guitar player
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
Before you picked up a guitar, you should have taken a basic course in Music Appreciation, as you clearly have no understanding of Jazz, Classical acoustic, Rock, Blues, Spanish acoustic, or playing 128th notes
A bad ass nlues Boogie - Master guitarist Joe Satriani shreds away: watch?v=zzQb79IhoRE
Red House blues played like no other guitarist, as master guitarist shreds the hell out of his Strat.
Clearly, you have no formal musical training. If you had, you would recognize shredding is just one of MANY styles that master guitarists are capable of employing to play 128th notes that you can't comprehend due to a lack of exposure and appreciation for many forms of music.
Les Paul shreds a Minor Pentatonic used by all blues players, and Major Scale in "How High the Moon":
watch?v=e0ffdwBUL78
The missing link from yesterday:
Red House blues played like no other guitarist, as Yngwie Malmsteen shreds
watch?v=a4l1Jk3ZCb4
Your prejudice against 128th notes as a "myriad of inexpressive incomprehensible tones" is simply due to your own lack of ability to comprehend the genius of a plethora of Master guitarists. You're Terminally Stupid, not ignorant.
@bluesatbirth Have a listen to this old time classic with a myriad of notes, shredded by none other than by
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter of Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan fame, sitting in, in a performance live with the Ventures.
I can post plenty of great performances enjoyed by millions of people where the musician(s) are playing what you refer to as an incomprehensible myriad of notes.
I don't like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein, The same applies to a skilled musician shredding
@bluesatbirth thats been my lament over the last 4 decades - some player came up with something new, thousands of others instantly glommed onto them as the new and only Messiah, copied, and music suffered. Not every song needs high speed wankery in it. Thats as gimmicky as playing with ones teeth in every song, or using a violin bow in every song. or, heck, playing slide in every song.
@CatchinProjection Could not agree more ! I see more and more--connect the note players--lack of creativity--they don't understand that so much comes from within and exits thru the fingers. They have no connection to the song they are playing--just play a lot of notes and oh look everybody thinks I'm good--and the public is the cause of that. Bottom line--most listeners are musically BRAIN DEAD--thanks to the lack of real music programs in school--and the greedy music industry !
@bluesatbirth I recall scrounging for bootlegs with stuff on them not available in stores or played on AM/FM radio, then compiling "best of" mix tapes. I had to listen carefully as only the "best" songs made it onto the precious limited tape space I had. Its much easier to get old and new music now, and theres so much of it available, I don't see how/why kids stick with 1-2 acts, to cover of all 1.1 moods, despite the industry's lobbying for "simplicity".
Nobody can touch this version. Peter Greene is as melodic as G. Harrison at his best.
Unfortunately, E.C.'s versions are in NOT outstanding in any way.
Although Freddie was the King, he wasn't playing his ES-335 on the recorded version and the track gave no sense of his actual brilliance and what he could have easily done with this song.
Peter Green's lead guitar work on this song is truly exceptional. He's melodic as George Harrison was at his best. I played guitar to this track well over a hundred times in the '60's and early 70's. .
I have to make a correction. I was also at the "Flying Eyeball" show with Hendrix, Mayall, & Albert King. Mick Taylor was the guitarist for those shows, not Peter Green. Taylor joined in 1967 and left in early 1969. Green had already moved on to form Fleetwood Mac. Taylor was 17 years old and the tour when he played Winterland was when Mayall was introducing blues fans to his latest guitar sensation. Was he sensational? Not so much. But, he was competent, had nice tone and played well.
Clapton with Mayall was absolutely NOWHERE--I have the early recordings. He was worse than boring. Granted he did mature as a player but to my musical ear he is not the great player he is touted to be. I think his best guitar work was when he was with Cream. He played with more " snot " and creativity. Peter Green--no great shakes--these guys were borrowing from players that might know 4 licks at most--yet we made them stars ?
@bluesatbirth Adminttedly, Clapton was still learning the blues while in the Bluesbreakers. Yet, the album remains a classic amongst all self-taught blues guitarists who learned from Clapton.
Even if you personally didn't appreciate the Bluesbreakers album, you should know that those of us who learned from Clapton found it to be another valuable source of information. Honestly speaking, Clapton was not exactly a beginner even then. More than likely you didn't care much for the material..
@fieldfullofthistles You can find early Clapton stuff on YT. The best way to find the stuff is to use an external search engine to search for: John Mayall Bluesbreakers Clapton Youtube
Also early Clapton stuff is when he was with the Yardbirds, Search for:
Yardbirds Clapton YouTube
Another very good album is simply called "Eric Clapton Blues". Use a search engine to get a song list, and then locate the songs on YT by song name, here's a great version of one of them:
@fieldfullofthistles Just an additional note to my other post to you. There were other guitarists in the Bluesbreakers and the Yardbirds. (It would be a shame for you to not know their work), but since you specifically asked about early Clapton, you should always include the string "Clapton" when searching for his early work in these two groups. Cream is not really early work, and anyone that knows anything about Clapton has got to know all their stuff. He also was on "British Invasion" records
@yourtreat2 Thanks for the info. I love Mick Taylor and just drift when he plays. The first time I heard his playing was on Laurel Canyon and I learnt a few songs note for note - The Bear and Walking on Sunset were my favourites. The earliest I have heard Clapton is with Jimmy Page on rhythm guitar playing Tail Dragger and other sweet sweet tunes! Looking forward to digging out a few other gems. People forget that Clapton was Peter Greens hero. Peter is my hero.
Peter Green`s style of playing is minimal and tasteful, he has a beautiful vibrato very clean and precise. These are objective observations, subjectively when he plays it moves me; it takes me to another place.
Actually, if you listen to Green's guitar, the tone and texture of his playing in this song is very similar to Clapton's in "Have You Heard". If you didn't know who it was, you could insert this track on the John Mayall's Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton album, and nobody would be the wiser.
comparisions are just the way those with a mediocore education attempt to communicate' It does not take a profound intelligence to understand that each musican and artist adds to the overall body of music that is available. Sometimes those who are obscure such as Peter Green , Mike Bloomfield and most of the great black bluesman add a great deal to the language or musical dialogue while those who have massive success such as Peter Frampton or Lindsey Buckingham have only a minor impact..
Only because we are evidently hard-wired for such behavior. Maybe it's some of way to evaluate and choose hunting partners 100,000 years ago or something. It makes much more sense to do it with sports. I think it's just our way of saying we have our favorites, and we champion them.....(and trying to be one up on someone else)
Only because we are evidently hard-wired for such behavior. Maybe it's some of way to evaluate and choose hunting partners 100,000 years ago or something. It makes much more sense to do it with sports. I think it's just our way of saying we have our favorites, and we champion them.....(and trying to be one up on someone else)
@CSHANE11 never.... SRV is to busy of a player.... also... way more repetitive...... just because he puts the pickup at the second position doesnt make him the best....... SRV has nothing on Green....
Damn if this isn't blues, I don't know what is. Who cares who's better between Clapton and Green. Any blues guitarist would praise the guitar-work on this track.
@zepher....as was mr kirwan....and mick taylor for that matter....weren't we all blessed to have had so much incredible talent to compare, and learn from.....restraint, taste and style.....then we all had our camp; it was almost necessary considering the amount of talented and innovative players but in retropect, it was all as good as it needed to be and really couldn't have been any better than it was
ALI KICKED FRAZIERS ARSE ,FRAZIER KICKED ALI`S ARSE ,WHOS THE BEST WHO CARES ,BRILLIANT SHOWS JUST LIKE CLAPO N PETE,AWSOME PLAYERS WELL AHEAD OF THERE TIME, KEEP ON PLAYIN BOYS !!!!!!!!
@MISSION315 Ahead of their time ehhh? I guess so if you don't count Freddy, Albert and BB...the 3 players they ALL copied. Like some someone said in an earlier post HENDRIX owns them all simply because innovation is the mark of genius not imitation. Jeff Beck doesn't get mentioned much 'round here
@yogroucho Are you serious? Clapton is not a blues guitarist? i think you need to get your ears checked as i think you are going deaf.......
@everyone thank you all for getting it we all should move on with ourselves instead of turning a beautiful art form into a competition!! much peace to you all.
@sheddski While you're "moving on", Mike Bloomfield was another very talented guitarist, and as somebody mentioned, Larry Carlton was doing great blues with the Jazz Crusaders at the time, and has worked solo and with Steely Dan since then. As the guy said, everyone should know Larry's work. I'm not going to get into the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, the many African-American guitarists, or Jeff Beck.
@sheddski What you CAN do is determine if a guitarist has done something with a song that is not only unlike any other version, but that the guitarist did something VERY different with a particular song, than ANY of his other work.
An example:
Peter Green -- This song
EC --- watch?v=cah4f8OKmDY
EC's version of this song is not atypical of ANY of his other blues that is NOT exceptional. That is NOT to say that EC didn't do exceptional work, He DEFINITELY DID, but NOT with this song, sorry EC.
They are/were great and much of their electronic interpretations of old southern blues styles will long be cherished by all. Trying to compare one to another is like trying to compare a dog to a crow....in that....it is ridiculous.
I saw them all...when Clapton was with Blind Faith, Green with Mick, McVie, & Kirwan, Mayall , and many others such as Johnny Winter, Alvin Lee, Taj Majal, Lightnin' Hopkins, BB King, Leon Russell,
They were all inspiring and fabulous....each in his own 'way'
peter green is a very good guitarist but you can't compare guitarists really, every one has there own kind of sound, especially with the vibrato and signiture licks, that's what makes a guitarist great, there shouldn't be comparison between greats.
Whats with all the comparisons? please people stop these stupid comparisons of "Green would kick Claptons ass back then" or "Clapton would destroy Green" can't we just agree their both fucking amazing and move on? geez people were supposed to be moving forward with our selves but yet people still feel the need to make a competition or comparison about everybody and everything!!!
@zepher1494 AMEN...these stooooopit 20 yr old twits listening to thier pappy's collection once then gettin all bad billy boy!!! What punks...think Sonny- boy, and elmore james are havin a nice laugh at them about now!!
@zepher1494 Agreed. Not to mention what is good musically to any given person is pretty subjective. You might like Clapton, Justin Bieber, Grateful Dead or 2 Pac. I suppose you can argue to some degree the guitar talent of a lot of these legends, but to do so ad nauseum serves only to deemphasize the music.
@zepher1494 Right on! Finally someone that gets it. Leave the competition to sport fans. Music is spiritual, not a competition. Grow up you kids and realize that REAL music is about freedom of expression, not some cheap competitive bullshit.
Competition is natural and good whether you're talking sports or music or anything else that human beings do. It's part of what drives people towards excellence. Once you're beyond childhood, competition is the norm. Lecture people all you want -- it's not going away. That said, yes, it can be taken too far. But if music were just about "freedom of expression" and didn't include distinguishing the bad from the good from the excellent, it wouldn't be worth much.
@1Doz To a large extent I agree with what you say, without a degree of competition there is no improvement and standards of playing would be the same today as they were years ago. BUT, you are forgetting personal taste. There may be two players out there who are technically equal. You prefer the music of one and I prefer the other. Most of the "A is better than B" arguments on YouTube really come down to taste. In those cases folks should agree to disagree and move on. Life's too short for rows
@codehendrix and its because Green Hoooooooooooooolds dem notes..... Clapton needs to learn alot about blues feel...... same with SRV.... take your time... and FEEEEEEEEL it....
@zepher1494 Couldn't agree more. Most of these morons, are guitar player wannabees, who sit home playing air guitar, but somehow have designated themselves as guitar player authoritarians. Maybe they should post some of their own playing on youtube, so the rest of the world could have a good laugh.
@zepher1494 I respect your opinion but I do not agree at all. Indeed you can not compare, Clapton is a Rock guitarist and Green is the best White guitarist in history. Comparisons are odious but neither can distort the true.
I agree!!! This is the type of mentality that in the 50's, kids had about Ford versus Chevy. Both good products, can't they just exist side by side? Isn't their room in our souls to like Clapton and Green and at the same time?. They don't have to have a death match to see whose better. I love them all for different reasons, and at different times. Don't be immature,.....my father can beat up your father!!!!!...
@zepher1494 ego it's a terrible thing- The funny thing is it is impossible to quantify music or art- There cannot be a 'best' it is simply not possible. We can each have a favorite but even that is dependent upon our mood or circumstance......
Mayall's albums were always on the turntable in the 60s. Never saw him until this last year, a year in which I saw Peter for the first time too at the Globe in Cardiff. As a teenager in the 60s this was the music I listened to and first started to collect. Clapton played some great stuff with Mayall and apart from Yardbirds, Cream and Layla has not produced anything to match this since. Mick Taylor played great guitar and helped the Stones to produce some of their best stuff. But Green excels.
@Islwynpaul He played a decent solo on WHile My Guitar Gently Weeps as well. But like you say a spent force after Layla period. I personally feel he lost a lot after he gave up the smack. Not to say I endorse the stuff in any way actually hate it but he did lose something after.
@jbhickey : I agree - Johnny Winter better than Clapton or Green cuz them 2 never paid their dues like Johnny did. When Johnny did 44 Blues on his 1969 album he credited Howlin' Wolf (even though it was previously done by Roosevelt Sykes). Mayall and Clapton took the same music and just changed the lyrics calling it Little Girl with no credit to the previous artists on their Bluesbreakers album. Johnny made it on his own - didn't need no Yardbirds or Fleetwood Mac - just him and the Firebird.
@Rick36561 Peter Green would get his ass kicked. Before his breakdown, Green was one of the best guitarists I'd ever heard, but he has all kinds of problems now and can't play the way he did in the 60s or early 70s.
@Rick36561 That would be cool Rick ,however,Clapton has too much respect for Peter this day and time. Clapton would be like Stevie,he would just let him play.I was a tech for Clapton.He's never really been the competitive type. He's always been quite shy and has always been his own worst critic.He's always worried about his voice too. I think he's a great singer and like a bottle of old wine, better with time. Peter still moves us all. Much love Peter. He still has magic.No need to message back.
DoowahDiatribe, how come you're responding to a message from 2 weeks ago that I've already corrected on the same day? Yes, this is Peter Green in the early Mayall days when he was sounding very much like Eric Clapton. Look back at the research that I've already done, Glad you love Peter Green tho'. Like you, I think he's the best.
For my money, I thought Roy Buchanan was the best live rock/blues guitarist I ever saw, but they all had their great styles. Jeez...... Bloomfield, Clapton, Green, Mick Taylor, Kirwan, etc etc
I agree! Peter has a unique sound, but i'm sorry that he got sick, and no longer was abke to continue! Saw him last time in blusesfestival Notodden in 2005. He was like a shaow of him self. With John Mayall, and his band. I think "Man of the world" is fantastic! And, of course, "Black magic woman".
Peter Green is the best blues guitarist, even surpassing Mike Bloomfield at times. But when Bloomers was 'on', no one could come close to him either. Clapton can't even string their guitars. Long live Peter Green and may our Heavenly Father rest Mike Bloomfield.
@DarryAZ56 i bet you can't even play a single note on any clapton's song,. you know nothing they are not on a competition they are on the same industry and same vision. to entertain. stupid ass
Couldn't rest over thisI It's from Hard Road, track 13. It is Peter Green, not Eric Clapton. Having blundered, I looked for an excuse! John Mayall wrote: "At first he sounded like a Clapton copyist, not unnaturally because he was having to play the current repertoire that Eric helped to make famous... Within weeks though he began to develop his own ideas and the technique to express them..." And how! He's one of the most soulful guitarists in history.
Guys, I've never heard this version of this great song before, but this doesn't sound like Peter Green to me at all. This is Eric Clapton. Anybody know the pedigree of this track?
@dunderhead77 Yes. This is Peter Green. Eric Clapton did not and could not do this. But, don't take my word for it..Research it, and check it out enough so you Know the Peter Green sound and what he indeed accomplished. Peter Green is the real deal. After all, we don't give the Stones crap because they can't play or sing (except for ex Mayall members) either then nor now.. east Peter Green is still out there playing and still loves the blues!
Well I go back to "Ride my Pony" days and followed Mayall with Peter Green much, Peter was playing few weeks ago about 20km from where I live, I didn't go in case it was not a good night, apparently it was, I'm glad for him and those who went though.
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THIS is PG Playing, this song went out with the album A Hard Road of John Mayall (With PG at this time)
peonwarrior 2 weeks ago
Peter greens probably my favorite guitar player,, so i dig the guitar solo
but skip to around 4:16 in this song watch?v=Na9a79rdjxs
one of the coolest guitar solos i think
MrJoshLatner 1 month ago
@MrJoshLatner I posted (way back), that PG did something entirely unique with this song that EC NEVER accomplished with it. I'd like to turn you onto something unexpected.
Steve Miller has a little known blues song I played to hundreds of times, and it's also a great performance. Check out:
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watch?v=rDc9_8WIFkA
yourtreat2 1 month ago
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@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@sheddski Just to shake things up a bit.
Peter Green did a really nice version of "The Stumble", but many years later, Gary Moore took what Green did, built on it, and played it as well as you could EVER hear it. Since he originally played it, Peter Green NEVER improved it even to this day.
Check this much improved version out::
watch?v=B0nKJFVVoYM
yourtreat2 3 months ago
Holy Cow!
LarryRickenbacker 3 months ago
Hey Thistles those early on are cassettes-- have to convert them to mp3 files. If you guys want to listen to players to learn from--Mike Bloomfield--Elvin Bishop--( who I drank beers, shared licks and pretzels with many yrs. back ) Mick Taylor ( Stones--very melodic player at times ) who I sat with about 4-5 yrs. ago. Want to get a great handle on playing guitar and BLUES listen to Larry Carlton lessons. He can get more out of ONE note than all these new shredder guys get out of a hundred !
bluesatbirth 3 months ago
@bluesatbirth We're both Larry Carlton fans. Here's something I never expected to see: Larry Carlton playing drums with "The Band", as 2nd drummer with Levon. Keep watchcing. Larry sings a verse, too.lol (For real)
watch?v=Ism9itDvKTk
(Since you've watched his lessons, and perhaps seen interviews with him, you might know that LC has a great respect for certain drummers. Still, finding this little gem was quite unexpected. You can't find it in Wiki on Larry's Page or on other LC "Bio's").
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@yourtreat2 It's amazing to me --I mention LC to so called players and they look at me puzzled. I wish 90 % of the players out there---even the "stars" would listen ( if they can hear ) to LC--they could actually LEARN. Too many guys today just play the note--it's like connect the dots--there are MANY ways to play a note--( it's called articulation, nuance picking, character ) then too many play too many notes--then there are those that listen--but they really DON"T HEAR !
bluesatbirth 3 months ago
@bluesatbirth I've PM'd you a rather long msg, with my thanks for the invite, as well. Please do check out the 2 selections. -- Kind Regards, YT2
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@bluesatbirth
Going to take you back to 1974 and show you one of the best guitarists in the world.
watch?v=_-QZnnaI7rY
watch?v=x6sxvext9c8
If you want to understand other forms of music, you need to listen, even to what you mistakenly call shredding. John Mclaughlin's Mahavishnu Orchestra (1974) did something nobody had EVER heard.
What you think is a modern phenomenon has its roots in music that goes back thousands of years, and can be easily heard (by a trained ear), in Indian music, too.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 Mistakenly or not --it does not in any way shape or form appeal to me--for my taste shredding or call it whatever you choose is not what I enjoy listening to. I prefer players that play notes that have a connection to the tune they are performing--I prefer emotional playing--playing what comes from within--not some technical display of a MYRIAD OF MEANINGLESS NOTES. I play from within--if you don't feel it--don't play it.
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth You listened to John M in 2 minutes??? You're missing out on a very talented guitarist.
John does NOT do shredding. He hits EVERY NOTE.
Yngwie Malmsteen style is completely different. He ALSO does NOT shred. He uses pull offs from EACH FINGER TO THE NEXT so he can traverse the fretboard by only hitting each of the six strings one time each.
Listen to J. Satrioni jam Stormy Monday with L. West, and hear what West teaches Satrioni what can be done with 1 note: watch?v=r5ry7AnFarY
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 I don't care what you call it--shredding--or traverse picking--all of those guys don't do a thing for my musical ear. Hitting every note--and way too many of them is a technical ability--doesn't meant that they are a great guitarist. That jam with LW ( who I met when we recorded at Les P's studio back in the 70's ( Les's son was our engineer ) & Joe S actually bores me --it is so repetitious--kind of reminds me of the boring jam with SW & EC at the Chicago C/R festival.
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth
Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth
Observe GM. Watch his picking with his right hand. DOWN, DOWN, DOWN, DOWN.DOWN.DOWN.
Always down
watch?v=B0nKJFVVoYM
Stylistically, he is entirely unlike Clapton excepting the fact that EC GM, and SRV ALL play major and minor pentatonic scales. Yet the playing is entirely unique, with styles entirely unlike each other
Get beyond the vocals and listen to the guitar. (You do it in your own group.)
Another relevant point. GM VARIES volume, EC NEVER does.
J. Bruce TAUGHT EC how
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 I don't care whether he picks up-down or sideways--he is playing AK licks. EC does not appeal to me--he was at his best with CREAM when he was creative and played with "SNOT"--go back and listen to Bloomfield & Bishop on East West--they were using-major--major p and minor p scales--before any of these other guys were--they were unique. You have your likes & interpretations--I have mine. I stick with creative players --that move me--and I can tell within seconds who will.
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth
Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 Never said they were crapola--just not what I like to listen to. I like a more creative approach--Larry Carlton, Earl Klugh, Keith of the Stones--Mike Bloomfield--early Elvin Bishop--John Hammond Jr.--electric-- listened to JB back in the 80's--different--yes--read the book This Is Your Brain On Music--Daniel Levitan--it will give you an insight as to where I am at musically--compared to many other " listeners "
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth "Never said they were crapola--just not what I like to listen to. I like a more creative approach"
Actually, what you said is that you dislike a more crative approach. That is other styles of playing.
In fact, of the players you named, ALL OF THEM stick to the 5 note minor and major pentatonic scales.leaving the , musician with far fewer notes & scales to choose from.
Stylistically speaking, the J. Batton Vid gives a range of scales and techniques to play them, & some shredding
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 You listen but you're not hearing ! Carlton & Klugh use many different scales as well as modes.Bloomie & Bishop were using MP-mP-modes--listen and try to figure out the guitar work on East West. It is harder to create over less chords--that's why so many players sound the same--they copy other players licks--they can't create--other styles of playing--I don't hear a lot of that. You really should read the book I suggested.
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Yeah. I absolutely agree Carlton & Klugh use many different scales as well as modes, I was really talking about some of the guys in the earlier posts.
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth
Bassist of Waather Report "Jaco Pastorius live 1979 Improv": watch?v=H3tLLzSGd2o
Since you probably have no idea what that group is. Check this out. BTW, The high notes are NOT guitar, thay are played on bass. Uploads of a live performance is on YT.
"Weather Report - Birdland" watch?v=Ae0nwSv6cTU
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth BOTTOM LINE IS:
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth Open your mind up enough to listen to Jennifer Batten combine a myriad of styles to a moderate to slow paced blues backing track. You will hear FAR MORE than simply shredding:
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
I don;t like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein.
.While you may not care of the sound of John McLaughlin, Yngwie Malmsteen, and Joe Satriani, only a fool would say that these excellent guitarists are "crapola".
Shredding is simply one of many possible techniques.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Bassist of Waather Report "Jaco Pastorius live 1979 Improv": watch?v=H3tLLzSGd2o
Since you probably have no idea what that group is. Check this out. BTW, The high notes are NOT guitar, thay are played on bass. Uploads of a live performance is on YT.
"Weather Report - Birdland" watch?v=Ae0nwSv6cTU
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Wathc this "shredding"
PACO DE LUCIA , John McLaughlin , AL DI MEOLA
watch?v=9cadbYIzhqQ
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Wathc this "shredding"
PACO DE LUCIA , John McLaughlin , AL DI MEOLA
watch?v=9cadbYIzhqQ
yourtreat2 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth BOTTOM LINE IS:
I don't like fish but I respect it as a source of protein. You don't care for very fast playing. All I am saying is the player I mentioned know what they are doing. J. Batton showed how she can shred, but also how she can be very melodic. Different techniques used by great guitarist deserve respect. That's all I'm saying
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 It's the meaningless myriad of notes that I object to--I play fast passages--when it belongs to the tune I'm playing. I'm not playing fast to impress the musically brain dead listeners. I'm playing thru my fingers what emotions are working thru me and the tune. Go back and listen to Andres Segovia conduct a master class--and explains to students how the note should be played with feeling--not just played. There is a difference !
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth When you learn to appreciate music you will learn there is far more than the slow blues your only able to appreciate.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 What a stupid comment. I listen to many talented players--not just guitar and not just slow blues. If you actually read any of my posts you would know that. I got my first taste--( age 10 ) Andres Segovia--Bloomie, Bishop early electric John Hammond--I like Earl Klugh--Larry C--Ronnie Earl--Johnny Copeland--slide whiz Roy Rogers--Stan Getz--Brubeck--David sanborn--Bruce katz--there are many, many more. I have a very deep appreciation for music--55 yrs. and counting.
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth Actually, the stupidity is in your own inability to comprehend other forms of music. You call them an "incomprehensible myriad of notes". That's stupidity. Well, at least it's ignorance.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 There is no point in trying to get thru to another one of the SHEEP that is MUSICALLY BRAIN DEAD--you are in that group. It is not ignorance. My MUSIC appreciation began at an early age. Today I am sought out and recognized for my passion, emotion, and true deep understanding of MUSIC not only as a performer--vocally and with my guitar--as well as a teacher--guitar, slide,harp vocals, song writing. I recognize that--CREATIVITY IS INDIVIDUALITY !
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth As someone that began playing at more than twice the age that I began playing 3 different instruments, touting the idea that you are uniquely gifted and qualified to know something special is insipid.
I had instruction in 3 differnet instruments and been playing 7 years before you even began.
Additionally, as you claim you don't like "shredding" because it's not expressive, simply shows your own ignorance of Indian, Spanish, Blues, Rock, etc.You're simply bone-headed.. .
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2So you began playing at the age of 3 ? What--pots & pans. Fast passages and shredding are not the same--I play fast passages when they are part of what my emotions have me play thru my fingers. Shredding---if you can HEAR--they all start sounding the same--just like connect the note copy cat players.Read the BOOK--THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON MUSIC--Daniel Levitan--perhaps then you will see the light at the end of the tunnel--???
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth Age 5
Hear Ye, Hear Ye by Decree of "Musical Genius" bluesatbirth;
It is henceforth declared: :
1) Playing more than 8 notes per measure shall henceforth be declared as an inexpressive myriad of notes.
2) The penalty for "inexpressive" disobediance shall require no less than 2400 hours attendance within an
Elementary Music Appreciation Class for 1st Grade students,
ultimately requiring listening to various musical
compositions enploying 128th notes at various times.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@yourtreat2 Just proves your inmaturity--and your lack of accepting someone else's VALID OPINIONS--I didn't want to say this before --but my musical creativity would run circles around you and many of the copy cat people you listen to. You don't even read my posts--if you did you would know that I play fast passages--when my emotion sends that to my fingers--but it's always part of the song--I HAVE A CONNECTION TO MUSIC--WHICH YOU DON"T HAVE. Go find a woodshed !
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth Another inefective post from the GoogleMeister.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth
Probably the greatest Telecaster player Danny Gatton plays Blues Newberg, and shreds the shit out of it: watch?v=mYK13NPAvks
Jennifer Batten unloads a myriad of styles to a background bliues track, and shreds with the skill of a master: guitar player
watch?v=-lEpANGzaqc
Before you picked up a guitar, you should have taken a basic course in Music Appreciation, as you clearly have no understanding of Jazz, Classical acoustic, Rock, Blues, Spanish acoustic, or playing 128th notes
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth
A bad ass nlues Boogie - Master guitarist Joe Satriani shreds away: watch?v=zzQb79IhoRE
Red House blues played like no other guitarist, as master guitarist shreds the hell out of his Strat.
Clearly, you have no formal musical training. If you had, you would recognize shredding is just one of MANY styles that master guitarists are capable of employing to play 128th notes that you can't comprehend due to a lack of exposure and appreciation for many forms of music.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth
Les Paul shreds a Minor Pentatonic used by all blues players, and Major Scale in "How High the Moon":
watch?v=e0ffdwBUL78
The missing link from yesterday:
Red House blues played like no other guitarist, as Yngwie Malmsteen shreds
watch?v=a4l1Jk3ZCb4
Your prejudice against 128th notes as a "myriad of inexpressive incomprehensible tones" is simply due to your own lack of ability to comprehend the genius of a plethora of Master guitarists. You're Terminally Stupid, not ignorant.
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth Have a listen to this old time classic with a myriad of notes, shredded by none other than by
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter of Doobie Brothers and Steely Dan fame, sitting in, in a performance live with the Ventures.
I can post plenty of great performances enjoyed by millions of people where the musician(s) are playing what you refer to as an incomprehensible myriad of notes.
I don't like fish, but I respect it as a good source of protein, The same applies to a skilled musician shredding
yourtreat2 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth thats been my lament over the last 4 decades - some player came up with something new, thousands of others instantly glommed onto them as the new and only Messiah, copied, and music suffered. Not every song needs high speed wankery in it. Thats as gimmicky as playing with ones teeth in every song, or using a violin bow in every song. or, heck, playing slide in every song.
CatchinProjection 2 months ago
@CatchinProjection Could not agree more ! I see more and more--connect the note players--lack of creativity--they don't understand that so much comes from within and exits thru the fingers. They have no connection to the song they are playing--just play a lot of notes and oh look everybody thinks I'm good--and the public is the cause of that. Bottom line--most listeners are musically BRAIN DEAD--thanks to the lack of real music programs in school--and the greedy music industry !
bluesatbirth 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth I recall scrounging for bootlegs with stuff on them not available in stores or played on AM/FM radio, then compiling "best of" mix tapes. I had to listen carefully as only the "best" songs made it onto the precious limited tape space I had. Its much easier to get old and new music now, and theres so much of it available, I don't see how/why kids stick with 1-2 acts, to cover of all 1.1 moods, despite the industry's lobbying for "simplicity".
CatchinProjection 2 months ago
@bluesatbirth maybe theres a blues record in there somewhere.....
CatchinProjection 2 months ago
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@bluesatbirth Wathc this "shredding"
PACO DE LUCIA , John McLaughlin , AL DI MEOLA
watch?v=9cadbYIzhqQ
yourtreat2 2 months ago
Nobody can touch this version. Peter Greene is as melodic as G. Harrison at his best.
Unfortunately, E.C.'s versions are in NOT outstanding in any way.
Although Freddie was the King, he wasn't playing his ES-335 on the recorded version and the track gave no sense of his actual brilliance and what he could have easily done with this song.
yourtreat2 3 months ago
Peter Green's lead guitar work on this song is truly exceptional. He's melodic as George Harrison was at his best. I played guitar to this track well over a hundred times in the '60's and early 70's. .
yourtreat2 3 months ago
I have to make a correction. I was also at the "Flying Eyeball" show with Hendrix, Mayall, & Albert King. Mick Taylor was the guitarist for those shows, not Peter Green. Taylor joined in 1967 and left in early 1969. Green had already moved on to form Fleetwood Mac. Taylor was 17 years old and the tour when he played Winterland was when Mayall was introducing blues fans to his latest guitar sensation. Was he sensational? Not so much. But, he was competent, had nice tone and played well.
soltisimba 4 months ago
Clapton with Mayall was absolutely NOWHERE--I have the early recordings. He was worse than boring. Granted he did mature as a player but to my musical ear he is not the great player he is touted to be. I think his best guitar work was when he was with Cream. He played with more " snot " and creativity. Peter Green--no great shakes--these guys were borrowing from players that might know 4 licks at most--yet we made them stars ?
bluesatbirth 4 months ago
@bluesatbirth Adminttedly, Clapton was still learning the blues while in the Bluesbreakers. Yet, the album remains a classic amongst all self-taught blues guitarists who learned from Clapton.
Even if you personally didn't appreciate the Bluesbreakers album, you should know that those of us who learned from Clapton found it to be another valuable source of information. Honestly speaking, Clapton was not exactly a beginner even then. More than likely you didn't care much for the material..
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@bluesatbirth Any chance you could post the Clapton early recordings? Would be really interesting to hear them. In hope.
fieldfullofthistles 3 months ago
@fieldfullofthistles You can find early Clapton stuff on YT. The best way to find the stuff is to use an external search engine to search for: John Mayall Bluesbreakers Clapton Youtube
Also early Clapton stuff is when he was with the Yardbirds, Search for:
Yardbirds Clapton YouTube
Another very good album is simply called "Eric Clapton Blues". Use a search engine to get a song list, and then locate the songs on YT by song name, here's a great version of one of them:
/watch?v=M7rDWbpG9lQ
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@fieldfullofthistles Just an additional note to my other post to you. There were other guitarists in the Bluesbreakers and the Yardbirds. (It would be a shame for you to not know their work), but since you specifically asked about early Clapton, you should always include the string "Clapton" when searching for his early work in these two groups. Cream is not really early work, and anyone that knows anything about Clapton has got to know all their stuff. He also was on "British Invasion" records
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@yourtreat2 Thanks for the info. I love Mick Taylor and just drift when he plays. The first time I heard his playing was on Laurel Canyon and I learnt a few songs note for note - The Bear and Walking on Sunset were my favourites. The earliest I have heard Clapton is with Jimmy Page on rhythm guitar playing Tail Dragger and other sweet sweet tunes! Looking forward to digging out a few other gems. People forget that Clapton was Peter Greens hero. Peter is my hero.
fieldfullofthistles 3 months ago
Peter Green`s style of playing is minimal and tasteful, he has a beautiful vibrato very clean and precise. These are objective observations, subjectively when he plays it moves me; it takes me to another place.
stevenjgw9 4 months ago
Actually, if you listen to Green's guitar, the tone and texture of his playing in this song is very similar to Clapton's in "Have You Heard". If you didn't know who it was, you could insert this track on the John Mayall's Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton album, and nobody would be the wiser.
kw219251 4 months ago in playlist kw219251's Favorited Videos
geez we"re lucky to have all this and a bag of chips!
123rcac 4 months ago
Me thinks Eric left the Dallas Rangemaster to Peter!!!
hhf323 5 months ago
Thank You Mr. Dannykirwan, thank you from my soul.........
sz3rd 5 months ago
Mick Taylor on guiter in this song ?
MrGrinsven 6 months ago
My favorite electric Blues guitar playing can be heard in this song.
LarryRickenbacker 6 months ago
IDIOT people are having nothing but their own idiotic ideas within their afflicted insane souls.
TheChange1961 6 months ago
comparisions are just the way those with a mediocore education attempt to communicate' It does not take a profound intelligence to understand that each musican and artist adds to the overall body of music that is available. Sometimes those who are obscure such as Peter Green , Mike Bloomfield and most of the great black bluesman add a great deal to the language or musical dialogue while those who have massive success such as Peter Frampton or Lindsey Buckingham have only a minor impact..
scottduncan44 6 months ago
C'mon Danny...REUNITE !!!
WYGIWIN 7 months ago
@WYGIWIN This was 1967 Peter Green with John Mayall&The Bluesbreakers... before Fleetwood Mac!
Mariekesone 6 months ago
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Only because we are evidently hard-wired for such behavior. Maybe it's some of way to evaluate and choose hunting partners 100,000 years ago or something. It makes much more sense to do it with sports. I think it's just our way of saying we have our favorites, and we champion them.....(and trying to be one up on someone else)
edboswell 7 months ago
Only because we are evidently hard-wired for such behavior. Maybe it's some of way to evaluate and choose hunting partners 100,000 years ago or something. It makes much more sense to do it with sports. I think it's just our way of saying we have our favorites, and we champion them.....(and trying to be one up on someone else)
edboswell 7 months ago
John Mayall + The Bluesbreakers w/ Peter Green | Someday After a While (You'll Be Sorry) | 1967
avivagabriel 7 months ago 2
Green had something other worldly in his playing, like Duane Allmann. Clapton not really
socrates1818 8 months ago
@codehendrix trolllololololol
zepher1494 8 months ago
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@remitablechair thank you for proving my point that some people will never change
zepher1494 9 months ago
And SRV may have kicked both their asses LOL LOL LOL
CSHANE11 9 months ago
@CSHANE11 never.... SRV is to busy of a player.... also... way more repetitive...... just because he puts the pickup at the second position doesnt make him the best....... SRV has nothing on Green....
codehendrix 8 months ago
This is blues....baby
peonwarrior 9 months ago
this makes me bleed the blues
Bluessontlavie 9 months ago
in 1069 i saw john at the ranch marckrt
MrSteveEverett 9 months ago
@MrSteveEverett Wow .... That's a LONG time ago! ;-)
silkysunshine 9 months ago
Damn if this isn't blues, I don't know what is. Who cares who's better between Clapton and Green. Any blues guitarist would praise the guitar-work on this track.
NeedlessKane 10 months ago
@NeedlessKane I've been working this track many time, and it's a moon knowledge (in Blues music).
peonwarrior 9 months ago
@j8mm3r Get fucked!! sad to see narrow minded people are still trying to compare and play fan boy to one artist!
zepher1494 10 months ago
@zepher....as was mr kirwan....and mick taylor for that matter....weren't we all blessed to have had so much incredible talent to compare, and learn from.....restraint, taste and style.....then we all had our camp; it was almost necessary considering the amount of talented and innovative players but in retropect, it was all as good as it needed to be and really couldn't have been any better than it was
ghp7029 10 months ago
ALI KICKED FRAZIERS ARSE ,FRAZIER KICKED ALI`S ARSE ,WHOS THE BEST WHO CARES ,BRILLIANT SHOWS JUST LIKE CLAPO N PETE,AWSOME PLAYERS WELL AHEAD OF THERE TIME, KEEP ON PLAYIN BOYS !!!!!!!!
MISSION315 10 months ago
@MISSION315 Ahead of their time ehhh? I guess so if you don't count Freddy, Albert and BB...the 3 players they ALL copied. Like some someone said in an earlier post HENDRIX owns them all simply because innovation is the mark of genius not imitation. Jeff Beck doesn't get mentioned much 'round here
BlockerMedia 6 months ago
Best electric Blues I've ever heard.
LarryRickenbacker 11 months ago
You WISH you could do this!
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@yogroucho Are you serious? Clapton is not a blues guitarist? i think you need to get your ears checked as i think you are going deaf.......
@everyone thank you all for getting it we all should move on with ourselves instead of turning a beautiful art form into a competition!! much peace to you all.
zepher1494 11 months ago
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There is no comparison possible, Peter Green is a Blues guitarist and clapton is not, clapton play other things., I keep from Yardbirds
YoGroucho 11 months ago
Peter Green ...what else needs to be said? Thank you John Mayall for finding all these fantastic musicians during the years!
Kalle Wo
Hartork08 11 months ago 2
Is this 'The' Danny kirwan posted this?
MrWopwink 11 months ago
WAIT A MINUTE GREEN IS GREEN AND CLAPTON IS CLAPTON NO COMPARING THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STYLE SO PICK WHICH ONE YOU DIG!! AND MOVE ON
sheddski 11 months ago 5
@sheddski While you're "moving on", Mike Bloomfield was another very talented guitarist, and as somebody mentioned, Larry Carlton was doing great blues with the Jazz Crusaders at the time, and has worked solo and with Steely Dan since then. As the guy said, everyone should know Larry's work. I'm not going to get into the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, the many African-American guitarists, or Jeff Beck.
yourtreat2 3 months ago
@sheddski What you CAN do is determine if a guitarist has done something with a song that is not only unlike any other version, but that the guitarist did something VERY different with a particular song, than ANY of his other work.
An example:
Peter Green -- This song
EC --- watch?v=cah4f8OKmDY
EC's version of this song is not atypical of ANY of his other blues that is NOT exceptional. That is NOT to say that EC didn't do exceptional work, He DEFINITELY DID, but NOT with this song, sorry EC.
yourtreat2 3 months ago
They are/were great and much of their electronic interpretations of old southern blues styles will long be cherished by all. Trying to compare one to another is like trying to compare a dog to a crow....in that....it is ridiculous.
I saw them all...when Clapton was with Blind Faith, Green with Mick, McVie, & Kirwan, Mayall , and many others such as Johnny Winter, Alvin Lee, Taj Majal, Lightnin' Hopkins, BB King, Leon Russell,
They were all inspiring and fabulous....each in his own 'way'
mawheegan 11 months ago 2
shut up youtube. you're all idiots. just listen and feel it.
xxwantedxx 11 months ago
i agree with zepher and I think his comment is so much better than darry's it's not funny!
shakindave 1 year ago
Beautiful.... Wonderful.
xYxBlackCatBluesxYx 1 year ago
What album's this off of? Bluesbreakers?
titostacos 1 year ago
watch tommy emmanuel
ationg 1 year ago
shut the hell up Kirk Hammet is the best guitar player....
TimBirkenholz 1 year ago
@TimBirkenholz -.-'
Kins1002 1 year ago
@Kins1002 wahWAHwahWAHWAHwahWAAAH
TimBirkenholz 1 year ago
@TimBirkenholz Peter Green FTW, Kirk Hammet FTL (For The Lose)
Kins1002 1 year ago
@Kins1002 you can't even play at half of hammet's level to say that,. so shut the fuck up
ationg 1 year ago
@TimBirkenholz technically vai's probably better but zappa puts them all in the shade by breadth of musical vision
danazgul09 11 months ago
buddy guy is better than all of them and also lonnie mack
1962egl 1 year ago
buddy guy is better than all of them
1962egl 1 year ago
peter green is a very good guitarist but you can't compare guitarists really, every one has there own kind of sound, especially with the vibrato and signiture licks, that's what makes a guitarist great, there shouldn't be comparison between greats.
MrSeanpm91 1 year ago
Peter Green is the best. John is the best White bluessinger.
MyKaaleppi 1 year ago
@MyKaaleppi as say Bonzo dog band: can blue men sing the whites? -:)
agnldp 1 year ago
green, clapton, jimmy page, all baddass english guitar players !!!
Psilocybe85 1 year ago
greeny !!
faunoram 1 year ago
Whats with all the comparisons? please people stop these stupid comparisons of "Green would kick Claptons ass back then" or "Clapton would destroy Green" can't we just agree their both fucking amazing and move on? geez people were supposed to be moving forward with our selves but yet people still feel the need to make a competition or comparison about everybody and everything!!!
zepher1494 1 year ago 89
@zepher1494 AMEN...these stooooopit 20 yr old twits listening to thier pappy's collection once then gettin all bad billy boy!!! What punks...think Sonny- boy, and elmore james are havin a nice laugh at them about now!!
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago
@zepher1494 Agreed. Not to mention what is good musically to any given person is pretty subjective. You might like Clapton, Justin Bieber, Grateful Dead or 2 Pac. I suppose you can argue to some degree the guitar talent of a lot of these legends, but to do so ad nauseum serves only to deemphasize the music.
malkneil 1 year ago
@zepher1494 I'm better than you :)
six2112 11 months ago
Couldn't agree more mate - why does everything have to be a competition? Everyone that makes music has something to offer... Tony
StratCat100 11 months ago
@zepher1494 I know what you mean! It's ridiculous to compare guitar players as though it is a fucking competition.
spyguys 11 months ago
@zepher1494 There is no comparison possible, Peter Green is a Blues guitarist and clapton is not, clapton play other things., I keep from Yardbirds
YoGroucho 11 months ago
@zepher1494 May I suggest, er uh, well, start with benzodiazapines (Valium, Clorazapate, Zanax, etc) LOL
twbock 11 months ago
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peterguercio23 10 months ago
@zepher1494 The Beatles or the Stones?
stalkek 10 months ago
@zepher1494 Except Green would kick Claptons' ass.
j8mm3r 10 months ago
@zepher1494
ZEPHER the people how compare these greats couldnt tie their laces
gleannan 10 months ago
@zepher1494 Right on! Finally someone that gets it. Leave the competition to sport fans. Music is spiritual, not a competition. Grow up you kids and realize that REAL music is about freedom of expression, not some cheap competitive bullshit.
vern1960strat 9 months ago
@vern1960strat
Competition is natural and good whether you're talking sports or music or anything else that human beings do. It's part of what drives people towards excellence. Once you're beyond childhood, competition is the norm. Lecture people all you want -- it's not going away. That said, yes, it can be taken too far. But if music were just about "freedom of expression" and didn't include distinguishing the bad from the good from the excellent, it wouldn't be worth much.
1Doz 8 months ago
@1Doz To a large extent I agree with what you say, without a degree of competition there is no improvement and standards of playing would be the same today as they were years ago. BUT, you are forgetting personal taste. There may be two players out there who are technically equal. You prefer the music of one and I prefer the other. Most of the "A is better than B" arguments on YouTube really come down to taste. In those cases folks should agree to disagree and move on. Life's too short for rows
saffsgrandad 8 months ago
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vern1960strat 9 months ago
@zepher1494 tell ya whats stupid , the phrase ' moving forward ' human beings make comparisons always have always will, nothing wrong with that
remitablechair 9 months ago
@zepher1494 Green would kick CLaptons ass..... Clapton is so fuckin overated.... hahhaha whatever... Hendrix owns everyone.....
codehendrix 8 months ago
@codehendrix and its because Green Hoooooooooooooolds dem notes..... Clapton needs to learn alot about blues feel...... same with SRV.... take your time... and FEEEEEEEEL it....
codehendrix 8 months ago
@zepher1494 Couldn't agree more. Most of these morons, are guitar player wannabees, who sit home playing air guitar, but somehow have designated themselves as guitar player authoritarians. Maybe they should post some of their own playing on youtube, so the rest of the world could have a good laugh.
lanes58 8 months ago 8
@zepher1494 Yeah, let's do what you want. Not everything is about competition, but about personal preference.
Hekikahni 7 months ago
@zepher1494 I respect your opinion but I do not agree at all. Indeed you can not compare, Clapton is a Rock guitarist and Green is the best White guitarist in history. Comparisons are odious but neither can distort the true.
YoGroucho 6 months ago
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I agree!!! This is the type of mentality that in the 50's, kids had about Ford versus Chevy. Both good products, can't they just exist side by side? Isn't their room in our souls to like Clapton and Green and at the same time?. They don't have to have a death match to see whose better. I love them all for different reasons, and at different times. Don't be immature,.....my father can beat up your father!!!!!...
HaroldSchultz 3 months ago
@zepher1494 ego it's a terrible thing- The funny thing is it is impossible to quantify music or art- There cannot be a 'best' it is simply not possible. We can each have a favorite but even that is dependent upon our mood or circumstance......
gumbyonacid 3 months ago
Mayall's albums were always on the turntable in the 60s. Never saw him until this last year, a year in which I saw Peter for the first time too at the Globe in Cardiff. As a teenager in the 60s this was the music I listened to and first started to collect. Clapton played some great stuff with Mayall and apart from Yardbirds, Cream and Layla has not produced anything to match this since. Mick Taylor played great guitar and helped the Stones to produce some of their best stuff. But Green excels.
Islwynpaul 1 year ago 9
@Islwynpaul He played a decent solo on WHile My Guitar Gently Weeps as well. But like you say a spent force after Layla period. I personally feel he lost a lot after he gave up the smack. Not to say I endorse the stuff in any way actually hate it but he did lose something after.
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OrpheusIsThe1 7 months ago
All the players mentioned in these messages were some of the greatest guitar players the blues had to offer!
Not a person has mentioned Johhny Winter who I feel is by far and away "the Best" of the best! Keep on gettin' BLUE!
jbhickey 1 year ago
@jbhickey : I agree - Johnny Winter better than Clapton or Green cuz them 2 never paid their dues like Johnny did. When Johnny did 44 Blues on his 1969 album he credited Howlin' Wolf (even though it was previously done by Roosevelt Sykes). Mayall and Clapton took the same music and just changed the lyrics calling it Little Girl with no credit to the previous artists on their Bluesbreakers album. Johnny made it on his own - didn't need no Yardbirds or Fleetwood Mac - just him and the Firebird.
george383 1 year ago
Just amazing!
1suzukiboss 1 year ago
Peter Green and Eric Clapton ought to get on stage together now and see who`s the boss. I vote for Peter Green!!
Rick36561 1 year ago
@Rick36561 Peter Green would get his ass kicked. Before his breakdown, Green was one of the best guitarists I'd ever heard, but he has all kinds of problems now and can't play the way he did in the 60s or early 70s.
kharmabum 1 year ago
@Rick36561 That would be cool Rick ,however,Clapton has too much respect for Peter this day and time. Clapton would be like Stevie,he would just let him play.I was a tech for Clapton.He's never really been the competitive type. He's always been quite shy and has always been his own worst critic.He's always worried about his voice too. I think he's a great singer and like a bottle of old wine, better with time. Peter still moves us all. Much love Peter. He still has magic.No need to message back.
jte1974 1 year ago
Just amazing guitar playing from Peter Green
1suzukiboss 1 year ago
I'm with the guy who says Roy Buchanan was the best he ever saw. Me too.
MrJgapa 1 year ago
DoowahDiatribe, how come you're responding to a message from 2 weeks ago that I've already corrected on the same day? Yes, this is Peter Green in the early Mayall days when he was sounding very much like Eric Clapton. Look back at the research that I've already done, Glad you love Peter Green tho'. Like you, I think he's the best.
dunderhead77 1 year ago
For my money, I thought Roy Buchanan was the best live rock/blues guitarist I ever saw, but they all had their great styles. Jeez...... Bloomfield, Clapton, Green, Mick Taylor, Kirwan, etc etc
fcassociates 1 year ago
I agree! Peter has a unique sound, but i'm sorry that he got sick, and no longer was abke to continue! Saw him last time in blusesfestival Notodden in 2005. He was like a shaow of him self. With John Mayall, and his band. I think "Man of the world" is fantastic! And, of course, "Black magic woman".
rolf3004 1 year ago
Peter Green is the best blues guitarist, even surpassing Mike Bloomfield at times. But when Bloomers was 'on', no one could come close to him either. Clapton can't even string their guitars. Long live Peter Green and may our Heavenly Father rest Mike Bloomfield.
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@DarryAZ56 you really are a first class wanker.
robb174 1 year ago
@DarryAZ56 i bet you can't even play a single note on any clapton's song,. you know nothing they are not on a competition they are on the same industry and same vision. to entertain. stupid ass
ationg 1 year ago
Couldn't rest over thisI It's from Hard Road, track 13. It is Peter Green, not Eric Clapton. Having blundered, I looked for an excuse! John Mayall wrote: "At first he sounded like a Clapton copyist, not unnaturally because he was having to play the current repertoire that Eric helped to make famous... Within weeks though he began to develop his own ideas and the technique to express them..." And how! He's one of the most soulful guitarists in history.
dunderhead77 1 year ago
Guys, I've never heard this version of this great song before, but this doesn't sound like Peter Green to me at all. This is Eric Clapton. Anybody know the pedigree of this track?
dunderhead77 1 year ago
@dunderhead77 i´d swear it`s Mick Taylor
endalias 1 year ago
@dunderhead77 Yes. This is Peter Green. Eric Clapton did not and could not do this. But, don't take my word for it..Research it, and check it out enough so you Know the Peter Green sound and what he indeed accomplished. Peter Green is the real deal. After all, we don't give the Stones crap because they can't play or sing (except for ex Mayall members) either then nor now.. east Peter Green is still out there playing and still loves the blues!
DoowahDiatribe 1 year ago
always loved the deepness of this track..thanx for posting
Utubestir 1 year ago
Well I go back to "Ride my Pony" days and followed Mayall with Peter Green much, Peter was playing few weeks ago about 20km from where I live, I didn't go in case it was not a good night, apparently it was, I'm glad for him and those who went though.
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slipshodcoqbgg 1 year ago
Don't forget Robin Trower.
OutbackBros 1 year ago
solo un blues blanco...
IcamolEdgar 1 year ago
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Solo??
fanum79 1 year ago