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  • He insinuated that Italians are a white people and controlled Israel (the land of Jesus)

    ... ever notice?? Most Italian's look like the rest of Mediterranean people? ... and middle easterners? SAME SKIN COLOR!

  • Every time this man speaks......FROM THE VERY FIRST WORD HE UTTERS.....DOWN TO THE VERY LAST.....HE IS COMPLETELY ERRANT ABOUT WHATEVER HE SPEAKS. DO YOU IN THIS MANS CONGREGATION THINK THAT GOD WILL LET THIS MAN CONTINUE CAUSING MANY TO STUMBLE AS WE GET EVEN CLOSER TO THE ENDTIME. THIS MANS "CHURCH".....HIS WORDS....AND HIS CONGREGATION WILL BE THE FIRST TO BE JUDGED HERE ON EARTH. KEEP YOU EYES FOCUSED ON JEREMIAH WRIGHT AND WATCH WHAT GOD WILL SHOW YOU AMERICA!!

  • This what happens when people choose to blame their life situation and current circumstances on another person....instead of giving their problems to God. This is what happens to a congregation that listens to a man like this and as all continue to "steep" in this ongoing hatred...then God will Judge this "church" first, and before any other and will make his point. Keep a close watch on this church and Jeremiah Wright because God is going to take prosperity from him and the congregation.

  • What is so racist about his words?

  • @Ohsonatural2010 He is making obvious racially segregative remarks, and generalizations. He is also pointing out the wrong doing of others based off of their skin colour and in the process making himself feel superiour for it, because he is black.

  • What he said was the truth! He never said that I am black and therefore better, I don't even see where that could have been implied. What he said was that white people have ruled this country and others. True. He said Jesus was poor and black. True. I'm pretty sure Hillary was not a black boy living in a single parent home or had ever been called a beep-beep. LOL if she had! Is he cocky? Yes! A bit militiant? He does remind me of Malcom....but racist idk. He never said we should separate!

  • @Ohsonatural2010 Google on youtube "White people racist and Jeremiah Wright". There you will see that he once again makes generalizations about white people needing to repent. He was not saying some white people, he is saying just white people in general. If you listen to most of his surmens it has something to do with racial divide, and by that I read racism in his agenda.

  • Correction "That was pastor mac king.", Their racially segregative rant sounded so much the same, I took them for the same person. Yet the pastor was still backing Wright. Regardless, this man creates racial hate and racial boundaries. He also stated that Barrack was not "white", yet I do believe he is part "white".

  • @ LIONOF I have seen many of his videos and not just the snip bits, so I am well aware of his sermons. All I am saying is that his summation wasn’t false. Now I don’t know if you are Believer or not, but when the children of Israel sinned against God they repented; so then for a Pastor to suggest that a people, whose people, have committed some horrible crimes against their fellow man, to repent to God for that, idk, that doesn’t surprise me. Nevertheless I can see how his words can offend.

  • @Ohsonatural2010 Your right, what he is saying is true yet it does not have to be false in order for it to be segregative. His thinking is all about white this and black that, and the tone he uses will cause racial animosity.

    The pastor wants people to repent for other peoples sins, just because they carry the same skin colour. Not only does he unteach how to be an individual, he is generalizing blame.

    He thinks in terms of my people and your people, that is segregative, not true unity.

  • Both Wright and Obama should go back to Africa if it's so great there. Problem is, Africa don't want them back! Can't blame Africa.

  • Rev Wright should be President, he tell the truth. Obama aint a black man cuz he half white, his daddy a traitor to his race screwing a skanky crazy white bitch whore.

  • He may be an anti-White, but I do not disagree with him here. Go Mr. Wright, call it like you see it!

  • Wow.. this guy's insane. People of

    Middle Eastern decent are normally

    refered to as having Olive skin.. but, I guess if that doesn't help you preach

    racial hatred you lie and say Jesus was

    black... sad... I can't believe anyone goes

    to this guy's church.. he's a lunatic...

    he's as big an idiot as the

    White Supremist .. like a Black Supremist.

  • the rushie herbert hoover neocons is the obstruction party of NO .. the neocons are mind controlled mega ditto heads ... ordinary people hate meocon psychopaths as their leaders ... it began when the supreme court announced that the bushman will be our fuehrer ... that minute, some texan broke down and torched our fuehrer's boat ... and it ended in baghdad with the hardened reporter breaking down and throwing his shoes at our fuehrer ... ordinary people can't take psychopaths running the country

  • Very True what he says about Racist White America.Sins

  • Jesus was NEITHER black NOR poor...he was actually wealthy for those who don't know.

  • Pekira, Nah sorry Time to put up another view, im a proud Black Man who loves America and NO ONE gave me anything, i worked HARD for everything i have, i finished school, obeyed the law stayed AWAY from crime and gangs

    I made a very successful life for myself , Now dont get me wrong im by no means as Rich as Rev Bigot as he just moved into a MASSIVE Mansion in a Wealthy area named Tinley Park IL

    But i have a good life and i DETEST this vile Hatemongering Bigot, he does NOT speak for me !

  • wow...this man did nothing wrong....many people of all races talk about how they believe others-regardless of color-has mistreated them...the point u miss is that most discussions of maltreatment are done in private and never openly addressed...when it is addressed, it's usually with people who will affirm the maltreatment...when u hear pastor wright speak in the pulpit u think it's wrong...now, how does your level of success amount to God's level 4 U?

  • 2coonection1, whitesupremacists gave you your freedom to not be mistreated under civil rights/affirmative action protection.your free education was given to you,you boss GAVE you a job. until you were GIVEN a good job, food,shelter,entertaiment and med care were GIVEN to you.everything you have today,you have only because the whitesupremacists are allowing you have it.they also did the same for your parents or whomever raised you.

  • whats hateful about what he said?

  • i and my family have a mssg for the Rev. Racist Wrong and here it is short and simple

    FUCK YOU SIR, SORRY BUT YOU DOT SPEAK FOR ME YOU ARROGANT BLOWHARD LUNATIC

  • If they could just bring back segregation and do so in a manor that's fair to all sides i would do so in a heartbeat.I don't like black people not because they have brown skin,it's because they are fucking niggers.There is the truth-eat it

  • FUCK REV WRIGHT, the Man is a hate filled Racist Lunatic !

  • The preacher is a HATER, if the congregation didn't walk out on his hate preachings, I assume they are haters as well of human kind.

  • I hate Obama. I bet MLK would be upset with Obama and ESPECIALLY Wright

  • wat makes this man different from martim luther king?

    o I know

    MTK SPOKE about racism in faith and diginity

    and whit a promise

    this guy if full of hate

    and for arevend shame on u,Jesus was not black he was an isrelite AN ISRELITE

    A precher shouldknow dis things

  • This nigger should move back to Africa and live off 1 dollar a day and be under military rule and then come and complain ungrateful fuck....Damn the niggers for electing their own...even though its only because he black...Well you know hmmm im gonna look out for my own...WHITE SUPREMECY!!!!!!

  • Go back to Africa? Maybe should take your filthy white family and move back to fuckin' Europe. White people are the ones that fucked up this country.

  • women had to wait longer for their suffrage than African American males.

    Many still look down upon them, believing their place is in the home.

    Women still dont earn as much as men

    And doesnt Barack Obama becoming president throw a wrench in this little toad mans argument

  • no....

  • Jesus Christ of the Bible was'nt a poor black man...there may be a black man named jesus he knows but the one in the Bible was clearly jewish.The jewish leaders im sure would have brought up the fact that he was a poor black man.WOW!

  • this rev.seems to like pointing his all mighty finger , it's been my experience that if this you point one finger there is 3 fingers pointed back at him...

  • Wright joined the US Marine Corps and became part of the 2nd Marine Div. In 1963, after 2 years of service, Wright joined the US Navy and entered at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center. Wright was then trained at the National Naval Medical Center in Maryland. Wright was assigned to medical team charged with care of President Lyndon B. Johnson. Before leaving the position in 1967, the White House Physician, personally wrote Wright a letter of thanks on behalf of the United States President.

  • NObama is a sick loser

    why would NObama force his children to listen to those racist sermons year after year

    NObama is a liar and a fraud

  • Future Secretary of State right there.

  • PEOPLE, MAKING SOMEONE GUILTY BY ASSOCIATION IS NOT FAIR!

    I AM SURE THAT BARAK ATTENDED CHURCH FOR MANY OTHER REASONS OTHER THAN TO HEAR WHAT HIS FORMER PASTOR SAID

    IN MY CHURCH ALONE, WE HAD MANY PEOPLE OF DIVERSE VIEWS... THE CHURCH IS KNOWN AS A PLACE FOR "SINNERS" AND "SAINTS"

    DID THAT MEAN I HAD BAD JUDGEMENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T DISOWN MY CHURCH???

    LET US BE REASONABLE AND NOT ACCUSED A MAN WHOSE MOTHER WAS WHITE WITHOUT EVIDENCE!

    PLEASE STOP RACISM...STOP THE HATE!

    Peace

  • The fact that his mother was white is irrelevant to me. I don't understand your argument ... the church is known as a place for sinners and saint so you should've disowned it?

    I cannot dismiss this because I fundamentally disagree with what this pastor believes. What other reasons would he attend this church... and for 20 years??

  • 2 Racist motherfuckers there

  • Jerimiah Wright looks like he has alot of White blood in him. By alot I mean like 90 percent White. I think I have a better chance of being called a Nigger than this fake ass hate filled octoroon.

  • obama NOT priveledged?> wright is buggin out now, of course obama was privledged. why does wright have to convince black folks of obamas "blackness"? obama will most likely win though yall, face it now so it wont hurt so much when he wins.when obama is president hes gonna round up all you white people into concentration camps and make you work in sweatshops makin our jordans and rocawear.

    or maybe not lol. be scared white people, be scared! lol

  • obama will win probabaly. he is more supported by the illuminati then mccain

  • Of course it is what Obama believes!!! He sat in the front pew and nodded approvingly for 20years and throws the bad Reverend under the bus at the first sign of controversy.

    Obama is a very, very ,very bad , racist, divisive, communist.

    Everyone should be afraid. Liberalism...Socialism...Commu­nism...Genocide.

    Save America...vote McCain/Palin.

    Voting DemoRat?...WHY DO YOU HATE MY COUNTRY?!

  • In my opinion this is what Obama believes deep down

  • Thank goodness opinions don't have be be based on facts huh? Lucky for you.

  • And Obama Was in this Church for over 20year's,and hide's it for his Election!!

  • don't forget that reverend wright baptized obamas children and even inspired the title for obamas book

  • Rev Wright = a racist loon

  • The dark skinned negroes look up to the light skinned negoroes as their natural leaders.

  • If a white preacher said this shit the niggers would be rioting and shooting and throwing there bannas all over the streets.

  • i Agree . they would burn down THIER own neighborhood again like during the rodney king mess and us working class white folk will have to build it back once again.

  • Is Rev Wright even black? ROFL! Racist nigger!

  • It is becoming painfully apparent is that too many people are all too willing to judge Obama on the basis of his election-year rhetoric, rather than on the record of what he has advocated and done during the past two decades. Many support him for no other reasons than his mouth and his complexion.

    Here is a man who has consistently aided and abetted people who have openly expressed their contempt for US, both in words and in such deeds as planting bombs to advance their left-wing agenda.

  • This guy's Bible must have gotten wet and caused the ink to run. This loon makes up stuff to fit his racist Anti-American views and his congregation is drawn to this message because they need a home for their own deep racist hearts.

  • Jesus never played the race card. He never asked for special privileges because his ancestors were in slavery. He didn't cry for government reimbursements for all of the discrimination he felt and was carried out and was carried out against him.

    GET OVER IT.

  • "jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country that was controlled by rich white people, the romans"

    this is a history lesson, or its at least biblically correct. so then how is this racist? is your answer "shut up, its racist cuz i say so!" lol. revelations describes jesus as black and the new testament site the romans (as well as history) as the rulers of that time. anybody have a logical rebuttal? just insults and anger at the truth? i thought so

  • i got a solution... here is a solution we should get a WHITE president, make all blacks slaves again and ship all the monkeys back to afica it will stop the racist shit in this country.......

  • Commitment to the Black Community

    Commitment to the Black Family.

    Adherence to the Black Work Ethic.

    Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community.

    Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions.

    Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.

    Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System.

  • fuck that racist nigger.

  • you are all full of shit saying hes a racist. whats ironic is some racists call obama and wright racist, how fuckin ridiculous is that? anyway, obama won the nomination bitches/1 i told you so. and mccain doesnt have a chance stupids! lol. insiders have allready said a long time ago they picked obama. presidents are slected NOT elected, didnt you learn that 8 and 4 years ago?

  • Why are white people never allowed to point out that Black people can be racist too...? It's simply not fair.

    newsflash #1: JESUS WASN'T BLACK!!! What kind of idiot believes that? He was a Jew... but Obama's church wouldn't understand that because they don't like Jews very much... as we all know... just like they hate white people... as if that needs to be reiterated after watching this.

    newsflash #2: America discriminated against Italians and the Irish as well.... doesn't this guy read?

  • white people are allowed, only somebody ignorant would think that. and why are you asking me this? jesus was jewish and back then jews were most likely black. black is more then africa, do some history to find out about that if you want an opinion on it. black people stretched all the way from northern china to spain. now your accusing his church of being racist? you never been to the church! they have more white patrons then black. how do you know things that you should be fully aware you dont?

  • hahaha jewish people were middle eastern....jesus was not black nor white...either way who gives a fuck...have u ever personally seen jesus...mabey he was purple....all that matters is obama and his beloved preacher are racist assholes

  • middle eastrn was black back then, like i just told you. you dont know history so your really laughing at yourself and lack of knowledge. help yourself to a real history book. and as far as jesus goes, the only mention of his race in the bible describes him as a dark skinned wooly haired man, thats basically black. why do people allways forget about revelations? burnt bronze is dark, brass is brown. wooly hair is not the features of most arabs today. this isnt that hard to figure out...

  • bsides ...paintings of jewish people from that time were depicted with a light brown skin tone...untill i see jesus him self im not debating what his color is...thats just stupid it doesnt even matter...the point is this pastor is un american and racist...anyone with a bundle of nerves in thier skull can see that

  • and iraq is close to africa anyway! i didnt even have enough room to explain how wrong you are! lol, wow dealing with you is only frustaration. just another youtuber who is overly opnionated and under informed. im not intersted in dealing with you at all. you ignored my question too anyway, NO instance of obama being racist? i dont know of any, sounds like you dont either. and obam is supported by illuminati he WILL win. they chose him allready. wright for vice pres! im out lol

  • dammit theres still more things wrong with what you said. paintings of jews? by who? what time? no dont answer just listen, lol, im not trying to debate you just sun you (cuz i KNOW your wrong) hebrew means black in kemiten. ok? i can show you artifacts that depict the jews as darker then the egyptians who were blacker back then also. you need to learn about the mixing of the arab nations, the europeans mixed into them due to the proximity. answer this one question if any; WHAT DOES JEW MEAN?

  • and it is an unfounded claim to say that obama and his church are racist. name ONE thing that obama said or did that was racist. his church is predominantly white. they are very honest and people cant deal with that so they throw around off target claims like racism. "oh he was talkin about people that are white and he didnt compliment him, hes racist" fuck that!, you gotta be an idiot to think like this

  • no its not ....LISTEN to what hes saying man...and ive seen his church on tv...theres like three white people in there...im srry i cant support a man like him and middle eastern isnt and never was black if you believe in the bible than just read about where life started...in iraq...by thi tgris river...nowhere near africa...eventually people spread around...jesus was born in isreal...who are u to say what people looked like back then? neither u or i were alive then.

  • you still havent named ONE thing even that shows obama as racist, so why should i believe you? you know the church cuz you saw it on tv?! omg i cant believe you said that, his church attendees are more whites then blacks! just stop, wow. the bible says life started in cush which is ethiopia, exactly where the oldest man found is. why do you think you know anything about this, you are wrong wrong and more wrong. sumer is the oldest known civilization, not the oldest remains.

  • Shut up fool.

    Studies based on skeleton structures of people buried in the area at that time relate them more so to Arabs than blacks.... it has been researched.... by more people than the black supremacists from whom you receive your info.

    Obama called his mother a "Typical white woman."... and he's not a racist? Hillary gave LBJ a little credit for the civil rights movement.. and she is? Bullshit.

    Some blacks need to get over it. Whites owe you nothing. We're equal. Live with it.

  • insulting me is un called for, i dont know you and have no interaction with you, your way out of line. bone analysis i would say isnt a perfect science since dna breaks down after minutes in most cases. what doesnt break down in minutes is historical non-colonial accounts, artifacts, and biblical reference. i dont know the quote of obama calling his mother a typical white women but there is a thing called referring to culture, if he doin that, i dont know, didnt see it. & reperations is justice

  • hmmm.. Bone analysis... I wasn't even referring to DNA, I was talking about structure.. People in different parts of the world look different and have minutely different structures that can be identified in accordance with their race.

    I am not way out of line. You are flaming people with your ignorance and I understand you have the right to free speech, as I do, and that is why I am offering a counter opinion.

    The question is: Jesus was black? There's zero evidence. Bible=words not pictures

  • the only info we have on jesus says that he was black, and all you will accept is a picture? you are biased. im not saying i KNOW what color he was, im saying the only evidence i know of supports the theory that he is, in addition the bible says he was. sorry? lol. zero evidence not hardly. i gave you three sources in my last post, now you call it zero evidence without looking at it, you are a waste of time then. dont debate if you dont wanna listen. leave me alone

  • Also, Wright discredits what you are saying about races moving around... Italians are and always have been white..... there NEVER other races in Italy... EVER they have always been WHITE.

    I hope you recognize this as sarcasm.

    haha

  • never heard that "quote" before. and even if, i was not talkin about italy. like i said, if you wanna "debate" someone respectfully and maturley you HAVE to LISTEN to what they are saying. and only an intelegent man will respond after objective contemplation of the argument. you have NOT shown me anything close to that. why should i bother with you?

  • You tell me. i don't know. I do know that He's a descendant of David.. who, in the bible had red hair. I haven't seen many black people with red hair.

    There is no information that we really have on Jesus' race... so how can there be something you consider the "only info"?

    I am not bias. I am however reluctant to agree with the racist minister of Obama's church, but that in no way changes my opinion of Christ. You have no proof, neither do I. Just a lotta logic :)

  • i know jesus was described in the bible as being black, but i mean i dont KNOW what color jesus was first hand. now you say you KNOW jesus was a descentdant of david based on what? the bible...i wont argue. i have seen black people with red hair, because the original men have all the genteic codes including the recessive ones. i know black people with red hair. and you are thinking of esau most likely not david. unless you can provide the scriptural text to back this up?

  • 1 Samuel 16:12 "And he sent and brought him in. Now he was ruddy and had beautiful eyes and was handsome. And the LORD said, "Arise, anoint him, for this is he." - Holy Bible; English Standard Version.

    ruddy=red-haired.

    I'm not as stupid as you want me to be...

    now please show me the text that says he's black?

    I don't think it exists...

    you might be thinking about that chick in Song of Solomon :)

  • first of all the englsh standard version is suspect for many reasons. but i checked and it is the same basically in other more trustworthy bibles. BUT ruddy could be referring to his skin instead of his hair, it DOESNT specify that, so why would you assert the hair? i dont prefer anyone to be stupid, but you did foolish things that i pointed out, not my fault...and if you dont know the chapter in revelations about jesus then where have you been? and why do you have an opinion on it?

  • Well it said his hair was WHITE in revelations..... that doesn't prove anything.

    Lots of people have hair that looks like wool. I think it depends on the sheep. If you're blind enough to think that black people are the only one with textured hair you're fucked up.

    The word RUDDY has been translated from the original text as red-haired.

    I have an opinion on it because i CAN have an opinion on it. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I can't have an opinion. We are all born FREE and equal.

  • lol, i thought you were a supporter of differnt races having different physical features inherent? such as bone structure...now wooly hair isnt in the same thing, ok whatever you say. curly hair isnt nesecarily wool textured, sigh, i had to explain that? do you know anything about black peopl? lol. and you look over the fact they say his skin is black? wasnt that the point of what we were talkin about? you pick anything to try and have a leg to argue on, still it fails cuz you are false

  • and referring to the ruddiness, like i allready told you, black people can have red hair, it isnt common (which may be why they made a point to mention it in his case) but again you arent listening to me. this point about the ruddyness does not negate davids alleged blackness, understand?

  • AND, if you claim to know as much about the Bible as you say you do.... then you would know that both Mary and Joesph were descendants of David. That's not as obscure as trying to prove he was black based on one word in revelation... In fact the only color mentioned in that verse is WHITE. not saying he's white, by no means, I know he wasn't. I just know there's no proof he's black.

  • you are makin it hard to not insult you with this nonsense. bronze is black, essentially. i NEVER mentioned how much or little i know about the bible, you are insulting me by puttin words in my mouth you are very offensive and fanatical. fanatical? yes you ignore facts blindly. bronze is darker then brass or copper (of which both are similar to many black skin tones, and others) but jesus is decscribed as having burnt brnoze skin, that is a dark skinned man, like an south african tone. face it!

  • "jesus is described" - there you just mentioned you don't know anything about the bible. the bible doesn't record anything about Jesus' appearance, any "description" is extra-biblical and hardly factual

  • i dont think things IN the bible can be considered "extra-biblical"

    Revalations 1:14-15 "1:014His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

    001:015And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters."

    so that takes care of what your talkn about. dont try to refurte its obvious 0and should be) what this clearly describes.

  • you are offensive, argumentative, dont listen, undiplomatic, and refuse the heavier knolwegde i have dissolved your argument with. i want nothin to do with someone who acts this way, regardless of disagreeing. i disagree with friends over things but they usually never act this horrible and ridiculous. i dont care if you realize what im saying or not, just go away and stop disturbing me with your frustrating mess

  • Bronze in the furnace has a gold-like appearance... I'm a sculptor... I know... also... it's referring to his GLORIFIED body... not his human body.

  • bronze, depending on its treatment and exact composition, can be anywhere from almost as light as gold to much darker. you liken it to only the lower side of the spectrum. this is akin to dishonesty. you are trying to make an argument and pushing aside facts to do so, that is reckless state of mind. i guess your prejudices of what others think and etc are causing you to deny and twist facts. i guess you dont WANT jesus to be black for some reason. wooly hair, bronze skin are black features, wow!

  • so christ is gonna look like a differnt man cause he is glorified, according to you. you are really lost in your own delusions. have fun with that. i cant be around someone who chooses to be unobjective. you are not looking for the most realistic interpretations of reality just trying to make them fit into your opinion, that is very very clear to me. "a man is wise in his own eyes, there is more hope for a fool then him!" -king solomon (another alleged black man)its funny that yuo dont like that

  • aside from david (or most likely esau) jesus has more then just scripture to support the notion that he was black. as i said check out the three sources in detail and you will see what they have to say in regards to race of that time and place. im not saying i know things i wsnt there for, but you seem to be. so we are not in the same boat as you suggest.

  • Revelation 1 says that Jesus Christ has a sword coming out of his mouth too.

    What race does that make him? And BTW, it doesn't matter. I'm just pointing out that you aren't a very good expositor if you think Revelation 1 is a literal description of the human Christ who walked upon this earth.

    The ONLY thing we know about pre-glorified Christ is that he was semetic, so probably black hair brown eyes, etc. Just like your average Arab or Jew (so he probably looked something like Barak Obama).

  • point is his description isnt "extra biblical" like you said. what were you talkin about anyway? were you calling passages in the bible extrabiblical? lol

    anyway, yes they are describing what he looked like when he returned. you think this is supposed to change his race into black? he doesnt "come back" black, he IS black. so is obama in case you didnt know....

  • classic isogesis on your part. John was searching for ways to describe an indescribable Christ. It was so remarkable, he couldn't find adequate analogies, so he was stuck with "his face was as the sun" ... obviously this is NOT how Christ appeared walking around Galilee and in Jerusalem.

    Plus, it says that a sword came out of his mouth. Do you think that he had this physical feature when he was born of Mary? Stop making Christ a race-war token. He wasn't my race (while) and he wasn't black.

  • nope. you're in denial. this is the saddest attempt to avoid admitting the painfully (to you) obvious truth. do i really have to break it down for you? wow. yes of course he wasnt born with a sword in his mouth, but he didnt die and come back black. he obvously didnt change races o black, he WAS black. race is classified by epidermis NOT nationality (duh) so OBVIOUSLY he is black. did you think africa was the only place where black people are from?

  • we know nothing about the appearance of Jesus. All I can tell you is that he was not black, unless you consider a 100% Jew to be black.

    That would make me blacker than obama, according to my race.

    I didn't think you were as serious as you're being. No realistic bible scholar would EVER use Revelation as a description of the physical body of Jesus Christ.

    Q: Did we know anything about the physical appearance of Christ?

    A: No, unless you count Shroud of Tourin

  • so when jesus comes back he just happens to be black, and we are supposed to think he wasnt before that? ridiculous

    your opinion makes no sense. he comes back black for no reason. maybe you aren actually jewish. what kind of jew are you?

    shroud of tourin is probaby a jesuit operation to make cash

  • I couldn't agree with you more (re: tourin).

    I don't know what race Jesus will look like when he comes back. John couldn't even describe him in human terms!!!! Point is, he was a Jew from the tribe of Judah.

  • well what jesus will look like when he comes back is the only physical descrpition in the bible of him that i know of. and there he is clearly described as black. his skin tone and hair texture. i dont know why this description is supposed to be different from when he was on the earth. he dies and comes back a different color? doesnt make sense to me. thats why i say he is described as black in the bible. but christianity is for people of all colors. its our minds and actions that matters to him

  • Once we (friends and i) were doing a promo skit for a pig roast. At the end, my black buddy jumped out in front and shouted "not me man, I'm Jewish" Everyone laughed. It was lighthearted humour because normally Jew != black.

    Maybe you're right. Maybe Jews in Solomon's time looked like Africans instead of what they look like right now. Maybe Jesus was totally black. I'm not an anthropologist. But it doesn't matter: there is a deep theological reason why we don't have an image or desc. of Jesus

  • what would be that deep theological reason?

  • Because if we had a polaroid of him with curly red hair (totally impossible IMHO, but hang with me), then said distinctive physical feature would be considered "cool" among Christians.

    We have NO clue about what he really looked like, and we've STILL been fighting the heresy of icons and idolatry through the history of true christianity. God is jealous of idolatry = deep theological reason.

  • the ONLY "clue" or description of Jesus' physical appearance (that i am aware of) is in the bible; revelations.

    this jealousy is described but i would ONLY go by the wordings of the KJV 1611, since this is likely the only version not changed by the papacy and its many arms fingers and toes. but yes the main problem in this world is still "idols" and idolatry. fucking constantine lol. i cant blame it all on him but you get the point maybe...

    theories right? well do you know idol doctrine? i do

  • yes im aware that the social norm is to consider the ashkennazi jews, that look white as jews. but these people are neither jewish or even hebrew. they are from khazar originally and migrated to eastern europe then ended up in concentration camps. they were converts in khazar. its possible that SOME of their ancestors mixed with the hebrews that visited khazaria in the 8th century. they are the same race as borat, im not joking. and oddly enough sacha cohen is khazarian, strange

  • Uh yeah 1. I was following you as a responsible (albeit isogetical aka liberation theology) person, but now you're just sounding like a conspiracist.

    2. I don't have time to discuss a TOTAL revision of OT, Jewish, Christian and Arab history with you, but why would my ancestors sacrifice themselves for their Jewish faith, in Russia and Germany, before the Romans and everywhere else, if there were NOT really Jews. Paul said the Jews were tasked with keeping Words (oracles) of God.

  • first of all there are conps theor nuts and conps theor researchers. only one is good to be.

    are you ashkanazi or seph?

    jew is not a race it is a tribal affiliation. hebrew is a race and israeli is a nationality. right? so if you want to ask me about jews sacrifcing themselves you got to be more specific then the country.

    anyway yes the jews have the oracles.

  • Read comment below. Anyways, can we agree that the bible didn't describe Jesus, and for good reason?

    And I think that you'd be hard-pressed to try to tell me that the tribes who returned to Palestine after the captivity and were subjugated by the Romans looks remotely Ethiopian. Josephus and other historical sources would back me up. The only black Jews then were like the Ethiopian Eunuch, who obviously wasn't of the tribe of Judah lol

    We don't know what Jesus looked like

  • bible and jesus, well read revelations and you will see that it describes what jesus will look like when he returns. one would assume he looks the same (basically, minus the sword in his mouth) as he did when he was alive. some might disagree.

    after the captivity in babylon in 600ish bc?

    you have to be more specific for me to comment on that.

    the ethiopean jews were indeed from judah. they are jews. you cant be a jew unless you are connected to judah. solomon is who their lineage comes from

  • thus that part of obama that claims to be jewish is actually not so. let me tell you briefly how they came to be called jews. in th 9th century 2 tribes of israel came to Khazar and the king decided to convert to their religion. he then made his people convert. through pauls words they began to consider themselves jews. however they were not related by blood to judah. they then were forced into eastern Europe during a war and the rest is history, literally.

  • i cant say i know all the reasons why they started to be known as "the jews" but the important thing is that they didnt qualify for that classification. since you have to be of judahs bloodline to be so. if a baby swan is raised with a nest of ducks, he thinks hes a duck, you know? i mean im not a scholar on this but i know this much about it. if someone can trace themselves (or people) to judah then they are jew. some of the khazars MAY have some hebrew blood. the roman jews do though.

  • the jews that were in rome were mixed with romans when many roman soldiers would rape the jewish and hebrew women. so the white jews from rome can claim to be part jewish or part hebrew. in revelations 1:14-15 they describe what christ looked like when he came back. interpret it how you will but this is where he is described. i agree with you that it doesnt matter what he looked like, but people try to lie about it, and i defend truth. thats why it was brought up here on this post (not by you)

  • oh i see why you were calling me a conpsircy theorist now i think. the borat thing. lol no iwasnt infering that borat is propaganda lol. i was saying that the khazarians (khazakstan is a part of khazaria) acting racist to jews is a strange paradox. sacha cohen is jewish and highlights the absurdity of being racist to jews by the khazars, but he is ACTUALLY a khazar himself even though he plays a satirical role pretending to be one, strange.

  • ok i re-read you thing about ashkennazi jews. I thought you were saying that the Israelis and Jews around the world today are not the true original Hebrews, but a group from Khazar which pretended to be Hebrew.

    I'm not Jewish at all, I'm Christian. What I was referring to was that I am a racial hebrew (a small amount, but still more than the 7% black that obama is lol) idk if I'm ashkanazi or seph. I'm fluent in Hebrew and I've studied the old testament for years but idk what you mean.

  • im glad to explain brother. i indeed was saying that the ashkanazi jews (which make up 92% of the declared jews) are in fact not hebrew, or even semetic. they are japhetic. magogian to be specific. jew is not a religion though, it is a tribal afilation (tribe of judah). the part of obama that is jewish is ashkanazi.

  • Ok we agree Jesus' race is unimportant. But Jesus was not Japhetic, neither are the Jews today. They look like their Arabic brothers. Which makes sense, because that's what they looked like 2000+ years ago, before the time of Christ.

    I have to politely disagree with you, I think that the Hebrews of Jesus' time looked basically Arabic, not Japhetic. I don't know about Jesus himself. Maybe God made him the only black Hebrew in Israel at the time? Who knows? Who cares?

  • ok i dont know why you are saying i said jews are japhetic. i said nothing like that. did you read all my comments?

    and i didnt mention anytihng about what they looked like. i only old you who they are; the descnedants of judah. thats all a jew is. if you are not realted to judah you are not a jew, its that simple.

    so if you cant prove lineage to judah you cant really considr yourself jewish legitamtely.

  • convert to judaism shold be treated as brethren. calling yourself jew as in a religious afiliation is an accurate statement, however using it as a term of race is innacurate in any sense, because it is a family and tribal afilation NOT a race. the khazars dont share the bllodline of judah but they are jews in the sense of participants of the religion. do you understand? problem is that somehow the khazarian jews treated their jewishness as a bloodline race, which is wrong in more then one way.

  • a convert to the Jewish religion is someone who has rejected the Son of Jehovah, the Messiah of the Tanakh, and by extension has also rejected His father. How are they to be treated as brethren? Answer: the same way that I treat Buddhists and Muslims as brethren: we descended from Adam but we all need Jesus Christ: no man comes to the Father BUT THROUGH HIM!

  • i meant brethren to the jews. i agree. are you awaer that martial law may have been declared as of last night?

    /watch?v=vIhHWXek574&feature=e­mail

  • Its so funny to watch the democrate melt down into racist and sexist bantering. That's all they're about anyway. You have a black or woman democrat in office and that's all they are there for. Black and woman republicans get on with their jobs. Which party is it that is getting beyond stereotypes?

  • That actualy sounds much more true that all the other rants made by rev. Wright

  • "But that is what the african american leaders are trying to blame the white man for, he has nothing buy revenge and hate towards the whiteman just as you cannot control your skin color niether can we. "

    Well not too long ago (1960's) white people made it obvious that they didn't want us(black people) to be on an even playing field with white people. I believe that most white people feel superior to black people. So forgive us if we don't fully trust white people.

  • It was an absolutly barbaric conspiracy.

    also There is a huge organic garden on the moon. But only the rich white people get to eat the vegetables. Ya, You got it. we dont want the black man to get any corn, lettuce or potatoes. its a big secret.

    now doesnt all that sound stupid. It is. But that is what the african american leaders are trying to blame the white man for, he has nothing buy revenge and hate towards the whiteman just as you cannot control your skin color niether can we.

  • ummmm the way u say it seems like blacks have been oppressing whites and forced whites into slavery and were lynched. Im not saying that blacks are more deserving of whites, im just saying dont make it sound like white people have always been this heavenly race

  • Martin luther king was killed by Al sharpton and jessie jackson I know its true. the government told me. The cow bat squirel committe told me that Japan Nuked itself and blamed The USA.They tried to get sympathy. It didnt work.So they blew themselvesup again. They heard the black man was moving in uptown so rather than have them live there they blew up their city.

  • Yeah Youre All right! Lets Kill Whitey, Oh wait a minute, after you guys kill off all us white folk, Who are you going to blame for being Oppressed? Oh yeah theres always The Mexicans to hold you down right?

  • Obama might as well been in the kkk. he sat, as a member, for 20 years in a racist organization. i didn't say church, because if they are praying that people be damned, they are damned themselves. When are we going to learn to love our brother? Missguided hate is the destroyer of all things. I wonder if he knows there was a white guy buried in the same levy as medgar evers? I wonder if he knows the underground railroad was made up mostly of white Christians?

  • Someone up there called Barack, evil....Thats funny! You probally think Pres. Bush is a devout christian too! I mean all I hear is wamp wamp wamp wamp!!!!

    None of you opposers gave good reasons why you dont want to vote for Obama-

    Your'e just don't have the balls to say I don't want to vote for that nigger!

  • he has no political accomplishments in the name of reform. he wants to raise the taxes of the rich and large corporations which would raise the prices of everything we buy in the country including food and gasoline. He supports the "global poverty act" which will cause the US to spend 800 billion dollars MORE than what we already spend. He is supported by terrorists, and he supports this raciest reverend wright guy...

    So no its not because hes a "nigger".

  • Blacks don't know what it mean to be white!!! Actually we do know what it means to be white, We where taught Whiteness by you- We where forced to hate our own skin-color because of you- we have disassociated ourselves from ourselves because of you- My friend that is precisely the problem-

    We need to forget your ways as if they are the most civilized in the world- and show the world that we where not born on slave ships, but in Palaces!

  • Okay even if he was muslim, should that matter- Islam is no more corrupt than the Catholic church- Pedafils, Political corruption, bus bombers, suicide attackers, whats the difference in God's eyes!

  • I will not apologize for being a black man that wants his own nation- But back to Obama- The man is a man of the people and you are to blind to see that- I think you crackers are scared that America may actually fix herself!!

  • Obama is a racist!! I suppose that will explain how he won the Iowa Primaries then!!

    You see "Whitey" Its not that we want to make all of you racist, its just that being snakes is in your very nature so we have to assume that you are all the same for our own good, Look at Hillary Clinton- has completely stopped talking about uniting America and focuses only on middle class whites,- thats documented and its a fact.....tell me that shit aint bias and racist!

  • If you want to judge someone by association please take a moment and look at Bill Clinton's speech praising William Fulbright, a known SEGREGATIONIST.

  • Well fucker,Barack is rich with all the millinons he gets from fools.

    White folks dont know how it is to be black..well, blacks dont know how it is to be white! By the way, blacks are only 15% in America, democracie means the majority rules...

  • LOL, this shit is funny!

    I will NOT apologize for being white. I am proud of my Germen / Swedish heritage. This guy is just out to make money. He's doing the same thing that he condemns, which is generalizing all white people.

    Note to the Reverand : Jesus was not a hateful person or a racist. Take a lesson you ignorant hypocrite!

  • *German

  • Tony Campolo is a white Christian Evangelical.

    He is a college professor and minister, and an author of over thirty books on theology...many geared toward Evangelical readers.

  • Campolo continues:

    "Wright is advocating neither Marxism nor violent revolution. Wright does say African-Americans are a people who are both equal with whites and deserving of the dignity that God wills for all human beings.

    Wright's words may seem harsh and his style may be strident, Many of them will hear him as an angry prophet in the tradition of ancient Israel..Jeremiah Wright sounds threatening. But we might ask ourselves if we deserve to be threatened."

  • No one deserves to be threatened.

  • Camplo continues:

    "Some claim that Liberation Theology is a baptized version of a Marxist revolutionary ideology...a reason for this is some prominent Latin American theologians have integrated Marxism with a theology of liberation and offered it up as justification for the violent overthrow of what they considered to be evil dictatorships. But it must be noted that most forms of Liberation Theology have nothing to do with Marxism and violent revolutions."

  • Acording to Campolo (in an article for Newsweek)

    "Those who adhere to Liberation Theology point out that all through the Bible we find that God always champions the cause of those who are poor and beaten down as they struggle for dignity, freedom and economic justice.

    Jesus himself, in his initial sermon, declares that He has come to bring "good news for the poor" and to "preach deliverance to the captives" (Luke 4:18-19)"

  • Tony Campolo, professor and founder of the "Evangelical Association for the Promotion of Education author of "Letters to a Young Evangelical says:

    What is Liberation Theology?

    With the upset over Wright and his so-called Liberation Theology, many have asked,what Liberation Theology is. Well,it is not very complicated! It is the simple belief that in the struggles of poor and oppressed people against their powerful and rich oppressors, God sides with the oppressed against the oppressors."

  • Blacks are not raised to hate white people, They are conditioned to beleive that they are inferior to whites, Black Liberation is the healing process for 500 years of not knowing who the hell we where.

  • I am not going to apologize for the color of my skin.

  • Obama's Trinity Church EXPOSED! Obama and his wife believes, instills in their children and practices a Black Liberation Theology which roots are hatred of White people, advocates violence, and even murder to liberate blacks from so called white oppression of modern day 2008! This religion is NOT Christian! It is MARXIST and similar to ISLAM (Obama's core belief). This Liberation Theology is also practiced and believed by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

  • Most black people (not all) but most, think just the same way. They are born and raised to hate all white people, because in their heads they believe that all white people are racist. This kind of thinking is what makes us all racist. When you base your opinions on a race of people soley on how you feel of others, you become a racist, so yes black people are just as racist, if not more, than 90% of whites.

  • Not even Most blacke people Venus. Just the displaced African-American as we are so-called. The blacks in Africa think you all are the best thing since sliced bread....Oh yes I am at odds with Africa right now, because they allowed the settler colonization of the Europeans that has divided half of the continent- But hey don't care if you rape them of their resources and still all of the diamonds, as long as they can look American!!!

  • I know it is sad how people in Third world countries have to live. And as long as we as Americans continue to ignore the facts and be self absorbed in our own worlds, it is only going to get worse. One day America will be considered a "Third world country" Sad but true

  • So what you are saying is that We should stop practicing Liberation theology because it offends you- The black man has to undergo mental surgery in this country and if that means offending a few of you pilgrims along the way then so be it.

  • I guess i just have a problem with people that make stuff up. Stuff like "a few years ago Obama claimed he was Muslim" or another poster that said " he refuses to say the pledge of allegence"...If you don't like the guy...fine...but don't make stuff up.

  • You just can not handle the truth. I would have liked him if he was not so shady and lied about his past. It does not matter what any of us think anyway, the truth will come out in the end.

  • Apparently, you have not learned about Black Liberation Theology, which is what Trinity Church teaches you fool. That is in no way a Christian religion. Google this and you will learn...Black Liberation Theology is just another form of Islam. Obama is a muslim and is using the cloak of Christianity to get foolish people to vote him into office. His Christianity is only a jacket to conceal his true being, and that is a terrorist sympathizing muslim follower.

  • You are right. To me it has nothing to do with black or white, but deceit about one's beliefs.

  • You are one completely uneducated "fool" Black lib has nothing to do with Religion therefore- how could it be another from of Islam.

  • ur just an ignorant dumb fool

  • Video of Michelle Obama will be surfacing soon. A wealthy individual is negotiating purchasing this footage of Michelle talking about "the Whities" (that is pronounced y-tees). Barack is getting very nervous because his soul will be revealed before November. This footage in conjunction with Michelle's anti-white thesis is going to end Obama's bid and Senate seat once and for all. American fools will be sorely surprised, but not those who know the truth already. Coming soon to a theater near you

  • Dude,

    When can I see that video???????

    I WANT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I KNOW THAT THE OBAMAS AND THEIR NASTY BLACK RACIST CAMP ARE AS DISGUSTING AND DANGEROUS AS ANY RACIST ORGANIZATION.

  • As soon as it is broadcast. I predict it will be shown late Sept. or October.... I have found out enough about Osamabama, and it is ALL very, very, BAD....

  • It really does not matter how much you all fight, argue, complain, bitch and call names. The only thing that matters is reality, a reality which will show itself in the end. I may be wrong, as you say, but I am sure as hell not taking a chance.I will not vote for him, I do not care if he had blue and purple spots on him, the man is purely evil.This is my opinion and although you may not share this opinion, many other people do.Arguing is not going to change peoples minds.He will destroy us.

  • also i have absolutely nothing against Obama

    being black.I just dont want a racist in the

    white house.

  • Jeremiah Wright is such a stupid idiot.

    he should know that Europeans were slaves

    too.also there are poor white people,

    in fact most poor people are white.

    he thinks ONLY African american people

    have it bad.i don't want a president who had

    listened to that garbage for 20 years.

  • Damn right Jason. I am half white half native American And I am poor as dirt. My father worked at Delphi for 29 years and now he has no job and no money.I was homeless for two years, and I am WHITE.Most homeless people are white and no its not because of drugs, I never did drugs or drank and I ended up homeless.Poverty is not a race problem, it is a human problem.Saying only blacks are poor is just as bad as saying that Only whites can b