I've been trying off and on since.....'93 or so?? assumed you had to have that rough "Mongolian-type" throaty tone to get a trill that produced the harmonic. would try it until it felt like my throat was bleeding. watched your video Tuesday (12/20/11) and yesterday (12/22/11) on the commute home a got a harmonic. Couldn't try it again for about 5 minutes due to the giggling. Got three pitches last night. Woo-hoo! thanks!!
@mustardmanzz Oh good! I'm really glad. Ya, you really have to be careful with your voice. Our vocal chords are extremely sensitive muscle. Although there's a proper way of doing the traditional throaty singing, you need a lot of careful training to do that. I won't even bother with that part of it because my voice is my money maker.
LE3lite, it took me six months to learn how to do it if you increase the volume of the bass note that might work your throat must be wet also singing a higher bass note works
im having two problems, 1. im having trouble increasing the volume of the overtone 2. if my overtones are in do re mi scale, im having trouble reaching notes passed a sol from my bass note, so having trouble with higher notes in short, do you have any tips for me? a response would be greatly appreciated
@LE3lite If you're already getting a full sound from your overtones, it's not anything that you can increase the volume. But if you're in the process of getting it, lot of increasing the sound is changing the shape inside your mouth, the angle of the tongue, just basically playing around and adjusting till you find what works for you.
In general, notes beyond sol doesn't come out too well. I haven't heard any of the pros go beyond that. Even getting a clear, loud sol is hard for me.
@gingermelson u can try another way of overtone which doesnt involve the tongue on the roof of the mouth, you just sing your bass note on an oo like in this and adjust ur lips for pitch it doesnt come out as clear but with practice it will
By practising what your video says and altering it, I've found several ways to make overtones...but I'd like to make them louder. I guess that isn't unusual! Any tips for how to do this please? Also...the fundamental note seems to dictate what range the overtone is in....is that generally the case, or just me? xxx Thanks xxx
@ColleenPeahen Ya, when the fundamental note changes, the range of overtone changes. You shift the entire range of overtones if you move your voice around.
If you would like to make it louder, I would say to try my method of bringing out the overtones. It takes a while to make it louder. That is only my expertise though.
@yuichituba Very sweet of you to respond. I'll keep trying! By the way, I've found the best place to practice is in the car when driving....alone! Ha ha! ;) xx
Ya, the car is a great place to practice because the low rumbles of the car engine helps cancel out your voice, making the higher frequencies of the overtone to be more noticeable.
Thank you for this epic tut. I want to learn this technique for when I cover embrace the world by gojira. Got the guitar part down so far. Funny that you attended biola, I'm in Fullerton right now at sunny hills. Anyway thanks
Thanks, you helped me very much. It's not easy to find out whatya doin wrong when noone explains what kind of mistakes are possible. btw, love your octopus face at 5:35
@AerisFeremis Ya, it's always a challenge teaching voice of any style because we're dealing with things we can't see. I'm glad you liked it......including my octopus face :)
@yuichituba You're right and this is why your video is that useful - When I watched it I tried to get those overtones and then there was the first time I could here them from myself... XDDD Not that loud n clear yet, but... yeah!
@Gimpsters Yes, there are lots of ways to project the overtones. Try this. Start with whispering HHHRRR, like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto it. No vowel. Then add this constantly when you are overtone singing, and the overtones will become much clearer. If you'd like any more info please check my channel.
I had the rough idea but this video gave me the technique I needed! Thanks very much. You have a very helpful and descriptive way of teaching, keep it up!
Dude, thanks man. This video helped me learn basic overtoning. Now I just hope I can get to use it. This is a great video for learning how to overtone.
@BIubbit01 You are very welcome. It makes me really happy that my video helped you all out. People use it for all sorts of things from mixing it with rock or in a concert choir setting.
hey man look up twelve years and two spoons later by lions!tigers!bears! please. how does he sing like that? is that using 'overtone' or what? please someone reply! :)
My roommate and I are totally interested in throat singing. We're sitting in our dorm trying to figure it out while watching your video and you said "Biola University" and we FREAKED OUT because we're both living attending Biola right now. Do you go here? Are you still teaching here?
@MrWally417 Wow, no way! I graduated in 2005 as a music major from there. I'm in San Francisco right now working as a musician. Are you guys in the choir there or just learning it because it's cool?
This may not be the thing im looking for but im hoping it is or you might be able to help me out. Im trying to use both vocal cords at the same time. but rather than having a normal clean singing voice im using the scream technic. Im sure you may have heard it before. You hear it in Metal bands. The vocalist actually get demonic type sounds and people call it screaming. But im hoping to be able to do a high and a low at the same time and i cannot find ways to learn how. Any ideas or adivce/help?
@xXDEATHxxMAYxxCRYXx That's called "vocal fry". I would look up Jamie Vendera's lessons, and even Melissa what's her name's is excellent because they teach you how to do it without hurting your vocal chords. The thing you REALLY gotta be careful with vocal frying is permanently damaging your vocal chords. The human vocal chords are extremely sensitive, even if it can heal just like any other body part.
@yuichituba Well I have about 4 years of expierience with vocal fry. Ihave cover videos on my account if you wish to see. And yes im aware to be very careful when learning things with this I have all that covered. Just need to learn how to use both vocal cords and combine it with vocal fry. So Melissa whats her nmes? Is that her actual account name or something? Or is it Melissa and something else? Give me a link?
Dunno if im making it right, but i can hear a very very very extremely very quite whistle. I belive its just the "ee" natural sound you get because of vocalizing that. I cant get the whistle im supposed to...
@PrincessMoonFeathers Hello, I would like to help you learn to overtone sing. There's a lot more to it than what you see on that tutorial. It takes time and discipline, of course. I have a 12 video course for beginners to advanced polyphonic overtone singing. Please have a look at my channel here.
@TheFriendlyBeluga No, the back of the tongue goes up. Well, it's not really the very back of the tongue, it's almost the center of it. You'll get what I mean as you practice it.
@Magicvegan Hi there. I'd like to help you move way beyond the teachings here. I have a 12 video online course for beginners to advanced polyphonic singing, with virtual overtone choir projects for my students. If you're interested, please have a look at my channel here.
@punchingjudy No no, don't tighten your throat. You will end up hurting yourself. Like I mentioned, the singing part of it should be as normal as you would normally sing comfortably.
hi I have been able to get overtones for several years now.. but I still can't get them to sound any louder. it's very faint and I can't control the overtone volume if that makes sense. Any tip???
@MsNathalieD Yes, I have a tip for you to get your overtones louder. First, make a sound of HHRRR, almost like whispering, without any vowel there. It's like the H is a blowing sound, and 'graft' the R onto the whole sound simultaneously. Always use this in addition to manipulating the tongue during overtone singing. It will help to project the overtones.
Ok actually ive been trying it havent totally got whistle down although maybe in the shower but could have been echoed :p. But my left side (as i said partial paralyses) has limbered up
@doupen69 I think since you already got a sound going on at this point, is to just keep doing it. As you practice it more you will starting figuring out for yourself how you can get it louder. The tip of the tongue won't move typically. Doing it in the shower helps since it tends to be more resonant and helps you to hear the overtones better. Even if you have your disability, I still think it's possible for you to be able to do this, as you have proved to yourself already :) Good job!
This is something i want to learn and i think ive got the tongue part down is the tip moving with the back part or always in the same area contacting the roof of the mouth? Also any tips for lip movement? Ive been having some issues because i have a larger lower lip and partial facial paralysis where i have less control of the left side of the face
@sk8aboy19 I have a tip for you to get more volume in the overtones. Start by almost whispering HHHRRR. That's like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto the sound. No vowel. Now attach that to your overtone singing, it will project it and make it clearer.
Me and my sister are chorus fanatics ( my email is raynezfishgirl@aol.com please email me) we are trying to make overtones and we can't make them go up and down we can hear them faintly but can't make them go louder. (this is really bugging me because I was in all state chorus for NC and all of those songs came to me very easily) please help!
hello i have a question, how can i get to silence the low voice part. I mean, just sing with the high notes, i heard some people doing it or at least they hide the lower notes very well.
@bicajoao You can't silence the low note (or, your actual voice) but a way to hide it is have an instrument, or even other people droning the same note. That way the higher overtone will come out to the foreground even more. If you search on here "Past Life Melodies" you can skip to the very end and they do this drone. I think Biola University's version you can really hear it.
Hi Yuchi, really enjoyed your video. I found this song by a group called Shpongle that uses throat singing in the way bicajoao said and I was also wondering if it were possible to silence the low part. He starts to silence the low part and all I can hear are the overtones, I'm not sure if he is doing the low note very quietly but it seems as though there are just overtones and sometimes two sets of them. Any ideas? Thank you.
Sorry the commenting isn't letting me post the video, but if you type in Shpongle DMT you can find it on the first link. The part I am talking about starts at 0:50. Could it also be use of effects that allows the singer to do this?
@patwick600akabob Thanks for watching, Patwick :) If you start at somewhere like 0:45 in that video where you can hear his really low note, then when it gets to 0:50 he's actually singing a higher note. Basically he's singing a different note, but he's so good at it the overtone melody still is smooth. That's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing it with me.
hm, so i've been reading around and watching other tutorials. and so there's the chamber between your tongue and the roof of your mouth and then the chamber between the bottom of your tongue to your lips. is the trick then to getting the best sound synchronizing the two chambers?
@dreamer097 The trick is that you are changing the proportions of the resonating chambers as you go along. The shapes of these chambers changes due to whatever tongue method you use (horizontal, vertical, diagonal or turtle). Also try grafting a constant HHHRRR to your sound for projection.
@DevinCCL It's not really whistling. There are lots of ways to project the overtones. Try this. Start with whispering HHHRRR, like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto it. No vowel. Then add this constantly when you are overtone singing, and the overtones will become much clearer. If you'd like any more info please check my channel.
I have a question. How to practice really low deep overtone singing? Like it's almost growling like in death metal. I can get medium pitch with no problem, i can even go lower but not enough.
@UnityCZ I actually can't do that one. I know some people that do that very well. Maybe you can find someone on here that can tell you (maybe this user named Vocatrix may).
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I've already got hand of some elementary singing. I was doing it wrong until i saw your video! And i guess I'm one of the faster learners :)) now i just need to practice and practice. Thank you again.
@UnityCZ That's great to hear! Good luck with the practicing, and I hope you won't annoy your neighbors too much :) (don't worry about that, just do it!)
@yuichituba I don't really worry about neighbors, but my parents are home today, since it's weekend :) I'm gonna practice tommorow when house is empty. But it's hard to stop singing :D
How do u make i loud and high? i was able to do a soft overtone and its not very high at all. i can change the pitch but it sounds airy at the higher register.
I'd really like to be able to do this. Is it anything like whistling and singing at the same time? I feel like I'm doing that but it doesn't sound right. If not then is there anything extra I should feel vibrating at the frequency of the overtone or just the fundamental note? Thanks :D
@tehBac6n There's no whistling involved, just your voice and the shaping inside your mouth. It should feel just as normal as when you sing "oooo" but once you get it, eventually you'll begin to hear a high frequency like when I do it. Keep it up, you should be able to do it for sure!
@tehBac6n Hi there, it's not at all whistling and singing at the same time. If you hear a ZZSH kind of sound, this is not overtone singing. I can help you lots. I teach from beginner to advanced polyphonic overtone singing. You can check it at my profile here.
I have real life virtual overtone choir projects that my students can get involved in. Hope to see you there!
For those who want an example, look up here on youtube: "Chanticleer Past Life Melodies" The high ringing notes (there are two places where you get a stack of four or five together) are in fact being produced vocally, not by any hidden instrument. And if you don't believe me, trying to produce an overtone that loud with this tongue technique will strain your vocal chords and possibly ruin your voice. It is amplification by the same structure in multiple voices.
Once again, Yuchi's method is one that is legitamate and is actually similar to the Eskimo form. In terms of a legato, harmonically-rich song, it's not usually the form the composer desired unless it is meant as an environmental sound or as a still tone to hold tension. He is very talented, but make sure you do your research. If you are one of those people who can produce more than one overtone at a time, you are very gifted and can showcase such a talent. There is a huge fanbase for it.
Pick a pitch (stay on it) and begin changing the resonance structure in your mouth while in front of a mirror or flat, hard surface so you hear the overtone come back at you. Once you get an overtone (usually octave first) on an "AH" or "OH" vowel sound, begin slowly shifting between vowel shapes until you cover all 8 with overtones remaining constant. Now begin controlling the tongue and palette to begin shifting. It takes a while to learn shifts greater than 1-2 steps. Continue (again)
The same principles apply, however, and this applies to any barbershop singers out there. You sing normally, but instead of making your tongue cut the note, you let it relax and then even dip into a crevice. I have seen a multi-overtone singer (like 3 at once) use the lips, tongue, and palette placement in many different ways. The narrower and deeper the crevice, the higher overtone, but PLM has a lot of octave and fourth harmonics. Continue on next comment.
I just want to say two things. One: Tuvan singing done correctly (after much incremented practice done carefully) will not produce nodules I've been doing it for seventeen years and can still nail a countertenor's high Eb (without breaking into falsetto). Two: if the piece you taught was Past Life Melodies, then you taught the wrong form, but it ends up working. You still have great skill. The tongue control is difficult. The overtones required are not in the whistle register (continue next com)
idk how i've missed this vid for 3 years but this has been the biggest help to me! i've been trying to do this for about that long and thanx to you i'm finally learning! thank you!!! ^_^
Found it! And tried it, I can get some overtones when using my lips and producing low sounds, but I can not figure out how to lift the back part of my tongue upwards as you suggested, while holding the L shape... Any suggestions?
Hmm I kind of got it I think. I can hear the overtones, but they are so silent yet, and Can barely be heard from under the UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-sound :P Any tips for this? Or just practise practise?
hi this is amazing! just one question: am i right in saying your singing harmonics with your mouth? as in octaves, fifths, etc. or not? and if not then how does it work theoretically? thanks a lot and congrats!
@louedawg Ya, basically your use your mouth to "cut" the note. Harmonics are basically what the fundamental note is made out of; and one pitch is made up of several notes. This kind of technique is used to bring out certain notes that is a part of the fundamental that you're singing.
LMFAO. watch the video but click on the CC(closed caption) button and click transcribe audio(beta) and just watch how google translates the words and sounds...
@hockeyjay12 it doesnt even know when hes saying when hes talking.. the funny part is when the audio translation thought he said "this is as a matter of you are working on iran because iran is not to see a difference."
wow, thanks!!! I was able to do it after watching this video probably after my 4th or 5th try.....I can't change the pitch as of yet, but I can hear the overtones. Awesome tutorial! Thank you!
Cool tutorial, I can do at least 2 different types of overtone, both of them lower pitch than yours. This high pitch one I still need some practice with, I only get a low volume in that whistling overtone.
Made some videos on my channel, will probably add some more soon :)
@yuichituba Hey, I don't study anywhere yet, I am preparing for art school as we speak, and will have my entry exams next week. I'll be studying Drawing&Painting, at university level.
Generally I'm an artist at heart so to speak, and overtone singing got under my skin after experimenting with some psychoactive seeds :)
They took me in a vision over the Himalayas and Tibet.
Check out my overtone videos, they're recorded at home, then mixed together. No digital effects added, all 100% voice.
Really cool video, it helped get me started!! However, although I can hear the overtones in my singing, they're still very faint compared to the fundamental tone. How can I make them louder?
@penspinningnovice092 No, you don't need to know how to whistle. It's just singing. I don't know what to tell you about your tongue other than just try to keep it cupped from practicing.
Hey I watched your video before I learnt how to do this nice video and thanks for making it - It took me about 5-20 minutes spread across random parts of the day to get the sound. I just wanted to add something real quick, you said that you put your tounge at where the teeth and the gums meet and the front of your mouth, I found that didn't work very well for me and that it comes out much better when I press my tounge at the front of the roof of my mouth, quite far away from my teeth.
I figured out how to do it...by accident!! Except I can only do triads right now. I'm getting the hang of it though! I play clarinet, so I'm used to weird embouchure!
HOOBASTANK!
LivinTheWayISeeFit 1 week ago
@LivinTheWayISeeFit lol, I get that once in a while. Except I'm not as buff as he is :D
yuichituba 1 week ago
@yuichituba Haha, true!
LivinTheWayISeeFit 1 week ago
it took me 2 months to get it right
skylightrazors 3 weeks ago
@skylightrazors THat's great! A lot quicker than me, lol.
yuichituba 3 weeks ago
I've been trying off and on since.....'93 or so?? assumed you had to have that rough "Mongolian-type" throaty tone to get a trill that produced the harmonic. would try it until it felt like my throat was bleeding. watched your video Tuesday (12/20/11) and yesterday (12/22/11) on the commute home a got a harmonic. Couldn't try it again for about 5 minutes due to the giggling. Got three pitches last night. Woo-hoo! thanks!!
mustardmanzz 1 month ago
@mustardmanzz Oh good! I'm really glad. Ya, you really have to be careful with your voice. Our vocal chords are extremely sensitive muscle. Although there's a proper way of doing the traditional throaty singing, you need a lot of careful training to do that. I won't even bother with that part of it because my voice is my money maker.
yuichituba 1 month ago
Surprise! ! Easy to sing tutorial website: sgg.nn.cx
loncify 1 month ago
LE3lite, it took me six months to learn how to do it if you increase the volume of the bass note that might work your throat must be wet also singing a higher bass note works
741gp 1 month ago
sweet video, I've been wanting to learn this for a while.
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MustacheMen420 2 months ago
im having two problems, 1. im having trouble increasing the volume of the overtone 2. if my overtones are in do re mi scale, im having trouble reaching notes passed a sol from my bass note, so having trouble with higher notes in short, do you have any tips for me? a response would be greatly appreciated
LE3lite 3 months ago
@LE3lite If you're already getting a full sound from your overtones, it's not anything that you can increase the volume. But if you're in the process of getting it, lot of increasing the sound is changing the shape inside your mouth, the angle of the tongue, just basically playing around and adjusting till you find what works for you.
In general, notes beyond sol doesn't come out too well. I haven't heard any of the pros go beyond that. Even getting a clear, loud sol is hard for me.
yuichituba 3 months ago
@yuichituba ok thank you very much ill keep working on it
LE3lite 3 months ago
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yellowjello42 2 months ago
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yellowjello42 2 months ago
I am having a problem my tongue won't move that way.
gingermelson 2 months ago
@gingermelson u can try another way of overtone which doesnt involve the tongue on the roof of the mouth, you just sing your bass note on an oo like in this and adjust ur lips for pitch it doesnt come out as clear but with practice it will
LE3lite 2 months ago
I have wanted to learn this for YEARSSSS now, but ur video helped me get that in 6 min. You amazing man!! THANKS!!
JimiJegede 3 months ago
@JimiJegede That's so awesome. I'm so glad to hear that, you're welcome :)
yuichituba 3 months ago
You look like Hoobastank
lcplshinall 4 months ago
@lcplshinall haha, ya, I've gotten that before. Especially when I lived in SoCal.
yuichituba 3 months ago
@lcplshinall i was about to just say that xD
UnknownCryll 1 month ago
Brb. Just going to annoy my neighbours and my friends.
Tiwaking 5 months ago
By practising what your video says and altering it, I've found several ways to make overtones...but I'd like to make them louder. I guess that isn't unusual! Any tips for how to do this please? Also...the fundamental note seems to dictate what range the overtone is in....is that generally the case, or just me? xxx Thanks xxx
ColleenPeahen 5 months ago
@ColleenPeahen Ya, when the fundamental note changes, the range of overtone changes. You shift the entire range of overtones if you move your voice around.
If you would like to make it louder, I would say to try my method of bringing out the overtones. It takes a while to make it louder. That is only my expertise though.
yuichituba 5 months ago
@yuichituba Very sweet of you to respond. I'll keep trying! By the way, I've found the best place to practice is in the car when driving....alone! Ha ha! ;) xx
ColleenPeahen 5 months ago
@ColleenPeahen Ya, no problem :)
Ya, the car is a great place to practice because the low rumbles of the car engine helps cancel out your voice, making the higher frequencies of the overtone to be more noticeable.
yuichituba 5 months ago
is there anyone else who can't do this?
robsl18 5 months ago
thank you for the great overview!
ashlieta 6 months ago
Thank you for this epic tut. I want to learn this technique for when I cover embrace the world by gojira. Got the guitar part down so far. Funny that you attended biola, I'm in Fullerton right now at sunny hills. Anyway thanks
kotorfreak666 6 months ago
@kotorfreak666 Oh no way! That's cool. I was just down there last week in your area.
yuichituba 6 months ago
Thanks, you helped me very much. It's not easy to find out whatya doin wrong when noone explains what kind of mistakes are possible. btw, love your octopus face at 5:35
AerisFeremis 6 months ago
@AerisFeremis Ya, it's always a challenge teaching voice of any style because we're dealing with things we can't see. I'm glad you liked it......including my octopus face :)
yuichituba 6 months ago
@yuichituba You're right and this is why your video is that useful - When I watched it I tried to get those overtones and then there was the first time I could here them from myself... XDDD Not that loud n clear yet, but... yeah!
AerisFeremis 6 months ago
@Gimpsters Yes, there are lots of ways to project the overtones. Try this. Start with whispering HHHRRR, like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto it. No vowel. Then add this constantly when you are overtone singing, and the overtones will become much clearer. If you'd like any more info please check my channel.
kivalouise 7 months ago
Did you ever sing for the band Hoobastank?
(this is me saying that you look like him)
KJKLbvlkbjbclkrf 7 months ago
@KJKLbvlkbjbclkrf Haha, nice.
yuichituba 7 months ago
I am getting there. This is awesome
Bayplaces 8 months ago
I had the rough idea but this video gave me the technique I needed! Thanks very much. You have a very helpful and descriptive way of teaching, keep it up!
KitVivid 8 months ago
25 people don't have a tongue.
WorkflowBeats 8 months ago
you're a good teacher! very clear, thanks.
slashchords 8 months ago
Dude, thanks man. This video helped me learn basic overtoning. Now I just hope I can get to use it. This is a great video for learning how to overtone.
BIubbit01 8 months ago
@BIubbit01 You are very welcome. It makes me really happy that my video helped you all out. People use it for all sorts of things from mixing it with rock or in a concert choir setting.
yuichituba 8 months ago
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hey man look up twelve years and two spoons later by lions!tigers!bears! please. how does he sing like that? is that using 'overtone' or what? please someone reply! :)
iscream4fkingfun 9 months ago
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iscream4fkingfun 9 months ago
Wow...so cool!!!!!
josetteastaria 9 months ago
My roommate and I are totally interested in throat singing. We're sitting in our dorm trying to figure it out while watching your video and you said "Biola University" and we FREAKED OUT because we're both living attending Biola right now. Do you go here? Are you still teaching here?
MrWally417 9 months ago
@MrWally417 Wow, no way! I graduated in 2005 as a music major from there. I'm in San Francisco right now working as a musician. Are you guys in the choir there or just learning it because it's cool?
yuichituba 9 months ago
This may not be the thing im looking for but im hoping it is or you might be able to help me out. Im trying to use both vocal cords at the same time. but rather than having a normal clean singing voice im using the scream technic. Im sure you may have heard it before. You hear it in Metal bands. The vocalist actually get demonic type sounds and people call it screaming. But im hoping to be able to do a high and a low at the same time and i cannot find ways to learn how. Any ideas or adivce/help?
xXDEATHxxMAYxxCRYXx 10 months ago
@xXDEATHxxMAYxxCRYXx That's called "vocal fry". I would look up Jamie Vendera's lessons, and even Melissa what's her name's is excellent because they teach you how to do it without hurting your vocal chords. The thing you REALLY gotta be careful with vocal frying is permanently damaging your vocal chords. The human vocal chords are extremely sensitive, even if it can heal just like any other body part.
yuichituba 10 months ago
@yuichituba Well I have about 4 years of expierience with vocal fry. Ihave cover videos on my account if you wish to see. And yes im aware to be very careful when learning things with this I have all that covered. Just need to learn how to use both vocal cords and combine it with vocal fry. So Melissa whats her nmes? Is that her actual account name or something? Or is it Melissa and something else? Give me a link?
xXDEATHxxMAYxxCRYXx 10 months ago
Dunno if im making it right, but i can hear a very very very extremely very quite whistle. I belive its just the "ee" natural sound you get because of vocalizing that. I cant get the whistle im supposed to...
martinadrianramos 10 months ago
oh i cant do it. why?
PrincessMoonFeathers 10 months ago
Cause you think you can't =D
GuamKomudo 9 months ago
@PrincessMoonFeathers Hello, I would like to help you learn to overtone sing. There's a lot more to it than what you see on that tutorial. It takes time and discipline, of course. I have a 12 video course for beginners to advanced polyphonic overtone singing. Please have a look at my channel here.
kivalouise 9 months ago
@kivalouise oh, no thanks!
PrincessMoonFeathers 9 months ago
Now... wait... the back up the tongue goes up or do the flaps move? If the flaps... then it will take me forever...
TheFriendlyBeluga 10 months ago
@TheFriendlyBeluga No, the back of the tongue goes up. Well, it's not really the very back of the tongue, it's almost the center of it. You'll get what I mean as you practice it.
yuichituba 10 months ago
Haha, this is brilliant! You are a really good teacher. I am going to practice this now and probably drive my poor husband insane! :D
Thanks for taking the time to add this xxxx
Magicvegan 10 months ago
@Magicvegan Hi there. I'd like to help you move way beyond the teachings here. I have a 12 video online course for beginners to advanced polyphonic singing, with virtual overtone choir projects for my students. If you're interested, please have a look at my channel here.
kivalouise 9 months ago
How do I move the back of my tongue? Please tel me, thank you sooo much! :)
IanLeoTV 10 months ago
Excellent tutorial.
BlisterEye 10 months ago
I feel like I'm doing this completely wrong. When I try to tighten my throat, I just end up making a loud "errrrrrrrrrr" sound. :-/
punchingjudy 10 months ago
@punchingjudy No no, don't tighten your throat. You will end up hurting yourself. Like I mentioned, the singing part of it should be as normal as you would normally sing comfortably.
yuichituba 10 months ago
omg! I got it!
SmokeyHickChick 10 months ago
You are a really good teacher- the 29 people who didn't like this video are asshats.
fireseed23 10 months ago 21
@fireseed23 asshats LMAO !!
Leomist 7 months ago
hi I have been able to get overtones for several years now.. but I still can't get them to sound any louder. it's very faint and I can't control the overtone volume if that makes sense. Any tip???
MsNathalieD 10 months ago
@MsNathalieD Yes, I have a tip for you to get your overtones louder. First, make a sound of HHRRR, almost like whispering, without any vowel there. It's like the H is a blowing sound, and 'graft' the R onto the whole sound simultaneously. Always use this in addition to manipulating the tongue during overtone singing. It will help to project the overtones.
kivalouise 7 months ago
Ok actually ive been trying it havent totally got whistle down although maybe in the shower but could have been echoed :p. But my left side (as i said partial paralyses) has limbered up
doupen69 11 months ago
@doupen69 I think since you already got a sound going on at this point, is to just keep doing it. As you practice it more you will starting figuring out for yourself how you can get it louder. The tip of the tongue won't move typically. Doing it in the shower helps since it tends to be more resonant and helps you to hear the overtones better. Even if you have your disability, I still think it's possible for you to be able to do this, as you have proved to yourself already :) Good job!
yuichituba 10 months ago
This is something i want to learn and i think ive got the tongue part down is the tip moving with the back part or always in the same area contacting the roof of the mouth? Also any tips for lip movement? Ive been having some issues because i have a larger lower lip and partial facial paralysis where i have less control of the left side of the face
doupen69 11 months ago
i can do it a little but how do i get more volume?
sk8aboy19 11 months ago
@sk8aboy19 I have a tip for you to get more volume in the overtones. Start by almost whispering HHHRRR. That's like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto the sound. No vowel. Now attach that to your overtone singing, it will project it and make it clearer.
kivalouise 7 months ago
Yay I got it for a sec and it was kinda loudish but my sister can't do it still and it's really starting to bug her
CrazychorusNCgirl 11 months ago
Me and my sister are chorus fanatics ( my email is raynezfishgirl@aol.com please email me) we are trying to make overtones and we can't make them go up and down we can hear them faintly but can't make them go louder. (this is really bugging me because I was in all state chorus for NC and all of those songs came to me very easily) please help!
CrazychorusNCgirl 11 months ago
thank you very much, i should have think of that it makes much more sense
bicajoao 1 year ago
hello i have a question, how can i get to silence the low voice part. I mean, just sing with the high notes, i heard some people doing it or at least they hide the lower notes very well.
bicajoao 1 year ago
@bicajoao You can't silence the low note (or, your actual voice) but a way to hide it is have an instrument, or even other people droning the same note. That way the higher overtone will come out to the foreground even more. If you search on here "Past Life Melodies" you can skip to the very end and they do this drone. I think Biola University's version you can really hear it.
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba
Hi Yuchi, really enjoyed your video. I found this song by a group called Shpongle that uses throat singing in the way bicajoao said and I was also wondering if it were possible to silence the low part. He starts to silence the low part and all I can hear are the overtones, I'm not sure if he is doing the low note very quietly but it seems as though there are just overtones and sometimes two sets of them. Any ideas? Thank you.
patwick600akabob 11 months ago
@patwick600akabob
Sorry the commenting isn't letting me post the video, but if you type in Shpongle DMT you can find it on the first link. The part I am talking about starts at 0:50. Could it also be use of effects that allows the singer to do this?
Thank you.
patwick600akabob 11 months ago
@patwick600akabob Thanks for watching, Patwick :) If you start at somewhere like 0:45 in that video where you can hear his really low note, then when it gets to 0:50 he's actually singing a higher note. Basically he's singing a different note, but he's so good at it the overtone melody still is smooth. That's pretty cool! Thanks for sharing it with me.
yuichituba 11 months ago
hm, so i've been reading around and watching other tutorials. and so there's the chamber between your tongue and the roof of your mouth and then the chamber between the bottom of your tongue to your lips. is the trick then to getting the best sound synchronizing the two chambers?
dreamer097 1 year ago
@dreamer097 Ya, but the sound is primarily on the top chamber between your tongue and the roof of your tongue.
yuichituba 1 year ago
@dreamer097 The trick is that you are changing the proportions of the resonating chambers as you go along. The shapes of these chambers changes due to whatever tongue method you use (horizontal, vertical, diagonal or turtle). Also try grafting a constant HHHRRR to your sound for projection.
kivalouise 7 months ago
Wow I actually got this immediately! I don't have it mastered or anything, but I thought it was going to be a lot harder haha, thanks man
negligent666 1 year ago
IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
midks 1 year ago
still having trouble with the whistling...
DevinCCL 1 year ago
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@DevinCCL It's not really whistling. There are lots of ways to project the overtones. Try this. Start with whispering HHHRRR, like blowing the H, with a constant R grafted onto it. No vowel. Then add this constantly when you are overtone singing, and the overtones will become much clearer. If you'd like any more info please check my channel.
kivalouise 7 months ago
No complaints, only credits!
That was a perfect tutorial. I haven't tried it yet, not going to do it now either (parents are in the room :P ).
I'll try it in the morning after a good nights rest.
Thank you!
BIGBASS1992 1 year ago
I have a question. How to practice really low deep overtone singing? Like it's almost growling like in death metal. I can get medium pitch with no problem, i can even go lower but not enough.
UnityCZ 1 year ago
@UnityCZ I actually can't do that one. I know some people that do that very well. Maybe you can find someone on here that can tell you (maybe this user named Vocatrix may).
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba Well, I kinda figured that out myself today. At least i think.:) Thank you anyway
UnityCZ 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this tutorial. I've already got hand of some elementary singing. I was doing it wrong until i saw your video! And i guess I'm one of the faster learners :)) now i just need to practice and practice. Thank you again.
UnityCZ 1 year ago
@UnityCZ That's great to hear! Good luck with the practicing, and I hope you won't annoy your neighbors too much :) (don't worry about that, just do it!)
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba I don't really worry about neighbors, but my parents are home today, since it's weekend :) I'm gonna practice tommorow when house is empty. But it's hard to stop singing :D
UnityCZ 1 year ago
日本語での講座をしてくれませんか？
私はbeatbox というものに今熱中していて技の中に是非これを取り入れたいので
お願いします。
saruwaruchi 1 year ago
this is SO cool. Thanks for sharing! I got it in, like, FIVE minutes! haha :) Thank you!
embobbette 1 year ago
Some sounds were quite hypnotizing. I'm not into professional singing, however, I find you cute.
olllaa5 1 year ago
YEAH - now i have done my first overtonesvery clear. I would kiss you !!!
Longyearbye 1 year ago
@Longyearbye lol, awesome. You can email me the kiss, lol.
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba Many Thx- but is it a problem for you, if i am a man :-)
Longyearbye 1 year ago
With the sound off, it looks like a tutorial on different techniques for servicing a woman.
learntoargue 1 year ago
holy shit I just got it!!!!!!
Xsulli4 1 year ago 30
@Xsulli4 Awesome, man :)
yuichituba 1 year ago
@Xsulli4 me too, just for a brief moment but i got it :)
sorry neighbors, the next "sound" thing I am going to practice :D
awesome tutorial!
fipsfoxy 11 months ago
Holy shit I can't believe I just made the sound! It was very soft but I think I can go from there easily now.
Finntroll17 1 year ago
@Finntroll17 That's awesome, man. Good job!
yuichituba 1 year ago
wow this was really helpful! thanks!
10mcleod 1 year ago
@10mcleod You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
yuichituba 1 year ago
I'm sorry but everytime i try it i sound like Boris Johnson playing chubby bunnies
TheGGolder 1 year ago
How do u make i loud and high? i was able to do a soft overtone and its not very high at all. i can change the pitch but it sounds airy at the higher register.
unknownsource21 1 year ago
I'd really like to be able to do this. Is it anything like whistling and singing at the same time? I feel like I'm doing that but it doesn't sound right. If not then is there anything extra I should feel vibrating at the frequency of the overtone or just the fundamental note? Thanks :D
tehBac6n 1 year ago
@tehBac6n There's no whistling involved, just your voice and the shaping inside your mouth. It should feel just as normal as when you sing "oooo" but once you get it, eventually you'll begin to hear a high frequency like when I do it. Keep it up, you should be able to do it for sure!
yuichituba 1 year ago
@tehBac6n Hi there, it's not at all whistling and singing at the same time. If you hear a ZZSH kind of sound, this is not overtone singing. I can help you lots. I teach from beginner to advanced polyphonic overtone singing. You can check it at my profile here.
I have real life virtual overtone choir projects that my students can get involved in. Hope to see you there!
kivalouise 9 months ago
Totally practising this whenever my housemates are out.
hamtorpey 1 year ago
Throat singing is different for every one.... As far as technique.
italianfatty 1 year ago
Lol its proper easy :D
tom36450 1 year ago
this is so rad, thanks for the tutorial
dumbtardface 1 year ago
yeah.... i sounded like a whale. didn't work.
JulianTheGreat01 1 year ago
LMAO! pause at 5:36 *-*
louiscarr899 1 year ago
@louiscarr899 omg xDDDD look at his eyes!
JuglarEuskaldun 1 year ago
For those who want an example, look up here on youtube: "Chanticleer Past Life Melodies" The high ringing notes (there are two places where you get a stack of four or five together) are in fact being produced vocally, not by any hidden instrument. And if you don't believe me, trying to produce an overtone that loud with this tongue technique will strain your vocal chords and possibly ruin your voice. It is amplification by the same structure in multiple voices.
Icyveins906 1 year ago
Once again, Yuchi's method is one that is legitamate and is actually similar to the Eskimo form. In terms of a legato, harmonically-rich song, it's not usually the form the composer desired unless it is meant as an environmental sound or as a still tone to hold tension. He is very talented, but make sure you do your research. If you are one of those people who can produce more than one overtone at a time, you are very gifted and can showcase such a talent. There is a huge fanbase for it.
Icyveins906 1 year ago
Pick a pitch (stay on it) and begin changing the resonance structure in your mouth while in front of a mirror or flat, hard surface so you hear the overtone come back at you. Once you get an overtone (usually octave first) on an "AH" or "OH" vowel sound, begin slowly shifting between vowel shapes until you cover all 8 with overtones remaining constant. Now begin controlling the tongue and palette to begin shifting. It takes a while to learn shifts greater than 1-2 steps. Continue (again)
Icyveins906 1 year ago
The same principles apply, however, and this applies to any barbershop singers out there. You sing normally, but instead of making your tongue cut the note, you let it relax and then even dip into a crevice. I have seen a multi-overtone singer (like 3 at once) use the lips, tongue, and palette placement in many different ways. The narrower and deeper the crevice, the higher overtone, but PLM has a lot of octave and fourth harmonics. Continue on next comment.
Icyveins906 1 year ago
I just want to say two things. One: Tuvan singing done correctly (after much incremented practice done carefully) will not produce nodules I've been doing it for seventeen years and can still nail a countertenor's high Eb (without breaking into falsetto). Two: if the piece you taught was Past Life Melodies, then you taught the wrong form, but it ends up working. You still have great skill. The tongue control is difficult. The overtones required are not in the whistle register (continue next com)
Icyveins906 1 year ago
Thanks, im trying to learn it now...
indigochild79 1 year ago
his a fag
bradmaramba 1 year ago
idk how i've missed this vid for 3 years but this has been the biggest help to me! i've been trying to do this for about that long and thanx to you i'm finally learning! thank you!!! ^_^
tokazar 1 year ago
@tokazar I'm glad it was helpful to you! :) Like I said, it took me a while too.
yuichituba 1 year ago
well i just spent 15 minutes making myself look like a retard and i still cant do it
killingedge123123 1 year ago
Found it! And tried it, I can get some overtones when using my lips and producing low sounds, but I can not figure out how to lift the back part of my tongue upwards as you suggested, while holding the L shape... Any suggestions?
KarenGroningen 1 year ago
2:24 SETTLE MATE BALL CUPPING
Cosi977 1 year ago
How did humanity survive before the internet, I just can't see how? This is amazingly great, skills that kills!
xiz90 1 year ago
Hmm I kind of got it I think. I can hear the overtones, but they are so silent yet, and Can barely be heard from under the UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-sound :P Any tips for this? Or just practise practise?
duges420 1 year ago
Is this like whistling through your teeth? Does it sound that way?
esmod89 1 year ago
hi this is amazing! just one question: am i right in saying your singing harmonics with your mouth? as in octaves, fifths, etc. or not? and if not then how does it work theoretically? thanks a lot and congrats!
louedawg 1 year ago
@louedawg Ya, basically your use your mouth to "cut" the note. Harmonics are basically what the fundamental note is made out of; and one pitch is made up of several notes. This kind of technique is used to bring out certain notes that is a part of the fundamental that you're singing.
yuichituba 1 year ago
How do you change the pitches? I think I can do it but can only achieve 1or 2 tones.
janiemobrien 1 year ago
LMFAO. watch the video but click on the CC(closed caption) button and click transcribe audio(beta) and just watch how google translates the words and sounds...
good video by the way.
hockeyjay12 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 lol, alright, I gotta do that. CC can be hilarious with some videos.
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba yeahhh. not the whole time this video but some parts are quite funny.
hockeyjay12 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12
"we just were you do you eat"
lol I've never seen this feature before :D
XxTestProfilxX 1 year ago
@XxTestProfilxX lmfao it's mad funny
hockeyjay12 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 how do you do that D:
XxrobbyxX7622 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 thanks for da tip i didnt know what the hell it does before
LacSam15 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 it doesnt even know when hes saying when hes talking..
resisthexcept 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 it doesnt even know when hes saying when hes talking.. the funny part is when the audio translation thought he said "this is as a matter of you are working on iran because iran is not to see a difference."
resisthexcept 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 the singing at 2:50 translated to leave maynard release.
iLiam13 1 year ago
@hockeyjay12 oh man YES! That is hilARious
11Frodo11 1 year ago
SWEET! Good tutorial man. Had me producing overtones in a couple of goes. Hat off to you sir.
pattymatic 1 year ago
wow, thanks!!! I was able to do it after watching this video probably after my 4th or 5th try.....I can't change the pitch as of yet, but I can hear the overtones. Awesome tutorial! Thank you!
jambapassion 1 year ago
@jambapassion That's great! Thanks for watching.
yuichituba 1 year ago
ur the man
piggemz 1 year ago
THAT'S SO COOL
MyUndeadFate 1 year ago
lol 5:36 the octopus look xD
yadejenmeenpaz 1 year ago
u r pretty hot guy dude.love 2 look at u when u speak.u speak a lot of sense 2.love-rahi.
rahiriha 1 year ago
Cool tutorial, I can do at least 2 different types of overtone, both of them lower pitch than yours. This high pitch one I still need some practice with, I only get a low volume in that whistling overtone.
Made some videos on my channel, will probably add some more soon :)
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
@firuinthehouse Nice vlogs, man. Ya I started doing vlogs after doing this video. So you're an artist? Where do you study?
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba Hey, I don't study anywhere yet, I am preparing for art school as we speak, and will have my entry exams next week. I'll be studying Drawing&Painting, at university level.
Generally I'm an artist at heart so to speak, and overtone singing got under my skin after experimenting with some psychoactive seeds :)
They took me in a vision over the Himalayas and Tibet.
Check out my overtone videos, they're recorded at home, then mixed together. No digital effects added, all 100% voice.
firuinthehouse 1 year ago
Really cool video, it helped get me started!! However, although I can hear the overtones in my singing, they're still very faint compared to the fundamental tone. How can I make them louder?
pattnik 1 year ago
Must we know how to whistle to overtone ??
penspinningnovice092 1 year ago
@penspinningnovice092 No, you don't need to know how to whistle. It's just singing. I don't know what to tell you about your tongue other than just try to keep it cupped from practicing.
yuichituba 1 year ago
How do I keep the tongue in the cupped shape ? My is like diagonal from the back to my teeth
penspinningnovice092 1 year ago
Making awesome noises with your face > friends. XD
machinalabs 1 year ago
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HanggaiBand 1 year ago
Hey I watched your video before I learnt how to do this nice video and thanks for making it - It took me about 5-20 minutes spread across random parts of the day to get the sound. I just wanted to add something real quick, you said that you put your tounge at where the teeth and the gums meet and the front of your mouth, I found that didn't work very well for me and that it comes out much better when I press my tounge at the front of the roof of my mouth, quite far away from my teeth.
Hoooyeeeaaah321 1 year ago
@Hoooyeeeaaah321 Ya, it's always different with individuals. it's not always one way. I'm glad you got to find what works best for you.
yuichituba 1 year ago
@yuichituba Yeah, I wasn't trying to say I thought my way was better, was just adding that it's good to experiment :)
Hoooyeeeaaah321 1 year ago
hoobastanky
specialedd13 1 year ago
This is such a good video. You have a very clear approach to teaching.
lestep 1 year ago
@lestep Thank you very much. I tried to be as clear as possible.
yuichituba 1 year ago
This is one of the best tutorials! I really have a better idea of what to do now.
thanks dude
ScorpionJC7 1 year ago
@ScorpionJC7 You're welcome! I'm glad it helped you out.
yuichituba 1 year ago
lol !!! Ich kriech n Krampf im Hals
Reginasmusic 1 year ago
I figured out how to do it...by accident!! Except I can only do triads right now. I'm getting the hang of it though! I play clarinet, so I'm used to weird embouchure!
kristeemc2russia 1 year ago