I don't like this type of music, but you must admire the talent on show, Allan Holdsworth is of course fantastic, and I thought EVH did a great job considering he is right out of his element here.
This is about the worst recording ever made. I got to wonder does Allan and Edddie think this is good?? No pattern or structure at all just random notes strung together . What a joke !!!
@IcolossusPSN Puh leeze....so you have transcribed some Holdsworth and some Coltrane and you can point to the same harmonic and melodic conceptualization? Explain in theory detail please......
I love how this shows you that even though Holdsworth's playing sounds like mindless noodling on the surface, it works perfectly with the music. Just listen to when Van Halen plays in the beginning and is obviously lost and noodling and then listen to Holdsworth's solo start at 1:55.
congratulations on your artistic dumbdown. next time your girlfriend blindsides you don't blame it on the emotion you love so much. you would say the same of the statue of David or the Sistine Chapel. i find great emotion, even anguish in this performance. you're a sour-grapes-ing Philistine. i a little surprised you would be proud to demonstrate such abject stupidity in public. you don't understand string theory and i'd love for you to post your assessment of it. do you call that 'crap', too.
This is exactly the kind of "music" I hate. You can hear the people shouting, laughing with glee at the technical prowess being demonstrated... so what, you're hitting all the right notes... its still mindless noodling, evokes absolutely no emotion whatsoever. This "music" isn't music at all, its just a technical demonstration. Ever note is important, as are the spaces in between. There's no connection here. No more "talent" being demonstrated than a kid who's good at guitar hero. Crap.
@MrFretDoctor always interesting to see how some people are incapable of hearing the deepest most intense emotion of some of the finest music and yet give them some basic hip hop crap and they will love it. Very amusing that every word you said is the exact opposite of the truth.
@NLPresultsnow What's amusing is that you think there is some universal "truth" to music, that some how you know "your" idea of good music is better than someone else's. That you fail to understand there's no "truth" when it comes to discussing music or any other art form just show's that you're not nearly as intelligent as you think you are! Look at all the comments here and see how many people hated this garbage. At least I qualified my remarks. Must have hit a nerve... ha ha!
@MrFretDoctor always interesting to see how some people are incapable of hearing the deepest most intense emotion of some of the finest music and yet give them some basic hip hop crap and they will love it. Very amusing that every word you said is the exact opposite of the truth.
to be fair I'm sure AH wouldn't sound great in the context of a rock show but still, shows why you can't really compare two different types of guitarists.
some of you Aholes forget EDDIE helped get Allan signed to a major label, for arguments sake he discovered Allan at a club and asked his management to get him a contract
EVH discovered AH for himself, not for the world: AH's Warner deal: 1 1984 release, 15yrs after AH'd begun recording, 9yrs after AH replaced John McLaughlin w/the "Tony Williams Lifetime", the era's most elite fusion gig. The Warner deal was a failure: AH was used to playing what he wanted w/the best players. He'd recorded regularly for years, & was recognized worldwide by fusion fans as the best. Warner tried to tell him what to play. EVH's heart's in the right place, but he did AH no favor.
@lazur1 As I know the story, EVH tried to help AH and got him in touch with Warners. Allan began recording what eventually became Road Games, and when EVH found out that he started without him at the helm as producer, he flagged the project with corporate and asked AH to wait until he was done with the tour. AH didn't want EVH's stamp on his music, so he stopped and they released what was already in the can as an "EP". EVH was disappointed but no hard feelings.
Allan Holdsworth is the most important electric guitarist to date, he almost single handedly tore up fusion guitar playing & made most players of intelligence re-evaluate the instrument as a whole - Eddie Van Halen wouldnt disagree with this statement I am sure!
It's fucking sad how guitar players now look at playing as a fucking dick measuring contest...It isn't and its not a competition. It's fucking music. Holdsworth is one of Eddie's idols and inspirations. Imagine if you got to play with one of your idols especially if you were fucking EVH! Even if you didn't play the best you still did it and improvised with the best.
isnt Eddes strong point and rock n roll aint Alans. Why dont u give Eddie credit for trying to give Allan as much exposure s possible and trying tohelp his careet as opposed to MINDLESS bitching.
Loooooooooooooool Eddie Van Halen has done way more for the guitar than Holdsworth ever did/has. Also Holdsworth fully acknowledges Van Halen was the true pionner of tapping. Lets take a look..... putting humbuckers on a strat and the first real user of floyd rose. Lets see Holdsworth write some songs that fill stadiums and play them after drinking a bottle of jack and snorting a sack of cocaine and after shagging a various bitches back stage. Clearly thissort of music
@MetalCrossUK Sorry man but Eddie Van Halen wasn't the first to tap. Even if you look at the old Genesis stuff, Steve Hackett had done some tapping. I accept that Eddie popularized the technique but look at Shawn Lane's playing during Eddie's time at the forefront; he was better in every aspect. If you're a fan of coke and laying bitches that's cool but let's bring this back to the art of playing guitar. Props to Eddie for his contributions and his commitment to making Allan more known though.
@MetalCrossUK Eddie Van Halen has done way more for the guitar than Holdsworth ever did/has. Thats a pretty bold statement to make kid. They are BOTH monster players. EACH has their high & low points regarding their playing abilities. Jimi Hendrix & Steve Hackett were tapping long before Eddie & Alan came onto the scene.
ed's a rock guitar inovator..but this type of harmony is definately not his cup of tea... he should have just played the chords and let holdsworth solo...
@Geetarfrik sorry to burst your little bubble, but AH knows his theory, it's just the completely unique way in which he approaches that kind of masks it.
hes just amazing, and i cant believe people put petrucci and malmsteen ahead of him even when all the "great" guitarists have said themselves that he is god. just ridiculous, and also people who call him repetitive, hahaha, now THAT is ridiculous.
@HiddenDarksage I think that has to do with the fact that Petrucci and Malmsteen play a type of music that's a little bit more popular than jazz fusion lol. Also, people will usually say that the faster guitarist is better. I personally love Petrucci, but Allan really blow him away as a guitarist.
@MorbidGuardian yeah i 100% agree with you being honest, faster =/= better, but people still think that. petrucci isnt actually that bad, out of all the shredders id pick him, but yeah allan blows everyone away haha
While Eddie did help Allan, that's a bit of a overstatement to say Allan would not have made a living in music without Eddie. He was doing it for a decade before meeting Eddie, and all Eddie really did was to help Allan get on Warner Bros for an EP that turned out to be a nightmare for Allan.
Are you kidding? I've never met any Holdsworth fan that was one because of Eddie. Eddie seems to have been sincere in his desire to help, being a fan, but what he did was introduce him to Ted Templeman, a man who immediately proceeded to become a thorn in Allan's side until the ordeal of the one mini-album Templeman "produced" of Allan's was over. The interviews you refer to are a figment of your imagination.
really odd .. the bassist takes a blazing solo at about 4:10 .. it's clearly Holdsworth playing one of the guitars, and the other player is totally out of his element - as in TOTALLY.
Barely hear Allan in the mix, but the chording backing up the bass solo tells me it's Holdsworth.
Sounds like a loose jam - parts of it are quite good .. other parts, not so good. That ain't Wackerman or Williams on drums, that's for sure.
i agree eddies playing sounds bad here but he was only trying to help allan holdsworth out because this was supposed to be his last gig because he was broke.
you guys should get a life ... none of you are probably a 1/3 as good a guitarist as anyone playing on here .. and by the way this is a total spoof .. this is some goofball band neither holdsworth or anyone else supposed to be playing is playing .. it just shows your musical nouse that you even belived it ... *sigh ..
Well damn, f that's just some goofball band, where can I get a record of them? Because the guitarist and bassist are the best musicians I've ever heard. .
@alembicbassguy Yeah unfortunately a similar thing happened when he shared the stage with Steve Morse & Ry Cooder..Eventually after Ed ran out of licks, he resorted to overusing tricks, IE: dive bombs, elephant harmonics, etc.. he eventually stood back, scratching his head & let Steve & Ry finish the set..no dis towards Ed, he was just out of his element that night.
I love the "riff" or "progression" that is the root of everything else here. Stylish and jazzy.
One wishes that Eddie would have allowed himself to do some jazz mini-albums on the side along with his rock career, giving his rock fans the implicit understanding that it would be all-instrumental stuff. I think he might have found it rewarding to do a club tour with just some "other" musicians playing simply the guitar with no singer.
Holdwsorth and Berlin are modern-day maestros. Berlin is right about music education from early ages. Holdsworth didn't start till 20. If he'd have started at 12.........as unbelievable as it sounds, he might have even been better. Which is freakin' scary. Love these guys
If you can find Tempest? You'll hear Warner Bros. 1st or 2nd attempt at a Van Halen type band in 1973, 5-years before VH. Along with of course Montrose, also produced by Ted Templeman, and engineered by Don Landee.
Yeah, I know, The Doobie Brothers were different. After Tempest, Holdsworth joined Soft Machine. He played with KROKUS! That's fascinating! And I thought Level 42 was a bizarre match Life AH enthusiast.
Just for all you VH fans...EVH has said on more than one occasion that Holdsworth was a huge influence on his playing...especially his legatto runs...
For all you Holdsworth fans, EVH helped Allan boost his career, look up Allan Holdsworth on wikipeda & also theirs an old interview w/EVH where he speaks about how this phenomenal player no would help, EVH did, very un-selfish Thanks EDdie!
I could just be an idiot, but is this Van Halen doing like a Holdsworth jam, or is it Van Halen and Holdsworth? I think it's the previous of the two but i was just wondering, thanks.
Yeah some or this sounds way too much like Van Halen phrasing-wise to be Allen. The repeated unison bends are a giveaway for one thing. I'm pretty sure it's Holdsworth and VanHalen together.
I'm a Chiropractor and work often with musicians - I know Arlo Gordin who treats most of the musicians in Hollywood too. Overplaying is always a problem with anybody serious, and this type of technique stretches your hands into VERY unatural positions - watch out! And see a good Chiropractor too. It's as much in the tension of neck and shoulders as in your hands and wrists.
Are you sure he is still in LA? the last thing I knew about him is the he was in Brazil after some kind of scam in the Scientology church. Is he back?
Hmm its a bit cold - like a dead celibates balls lol they dont usually work, these things ( like Mclaughlin/Santana) go to the Bundles vid for sheer hodsworth bliss!
I have this tape with the entire show. I've had it since early 1983 and I think this is from '82 either at the Roxy in Hollywood or else at GIT because Eddie Van Halen jammed with Allan on stage at least those two times. The first solo is a nervous Ed then at 1:56 Allan at 4:05 I'm pretty sure it's Jeff Berlin and 6:20 Chad Wackerman because they were with Allan at the time. I saw him at least 10 times between 81 and 85. Then Ed gives it another try @ 7:34. They jammed on an Ed riff also.
Okay, now I get what all that unfair commentary was about. I'm assuming the majority of U who post on this video are shred or fusion fans. This doesn't sound anywhere near as difficult to listen to as U might find Keith Jarrett in his solo improvisations. Well, Eddie sounds pretty bad. But this is a rock jam, and all rock jams meander in search of cohesive musical ideas. Rockers aren't schooled in thematic development I'm afraid, and it's too bad Holdsworth needed its selling power at the time.
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Sorry but this is beyond painful to listen to...its just pure garbage...in fact its not even music...its mindless crap...its doodling and noodling in and out of keys with no sense of any musical intelligence...this is an insult to
I agree sometimes jazz loses all the feel and good progression and melody that a lot of music needs. But be careful about insulting Fusion like this. People will say that 'you just don't understand the complexity of it'. Well the reality is that I get it, but it just sounds bad. I do love jazz though, I just think that some of it sounds terrible, this isn't even that bad, I kind of like it.
Before you throw around insults like that, you should know what you are talking about. Holdsworth is one of my favorites, I was just sympathizing with the comment about how fusion can sound 'robotic' at times. I do feel that way about John McLaughlin, although I respect him deeply, I just think his music is all strange progressions and time signatures, with no good melody. Also, before you jump down my throat, you should know that I am a guitarist in a fusion band.....
Nice reply....So on your channel, I see that you are having kids who look to be 10 years old lifting heavy weights. No child wants to do that without pushing from their parents. You are a sicko to make children lift weights like that. What the hell is wrong with you?
thats me lifting weights you idiot im 16 years old and im ranked number 2 in the country. im training for the olympics. my dad is not a sicko i choose to train and its my olympic dream so fuck off. i told you to shut up cuz i don't wanna argue. mind your own fuckin business.
But you were liftin when you were like 10, that's unhealthy. I don't know of any ten year olds ever who lift on their own, you probably have an overbearing dad who is trying to live vicariously through you, because he was never an athletic star. Lifting weights is awesome, but it can be bad for your body if you lift such heavy weights at a young age. You will also get an enlarged heart, and probably have a massive heart attack by the time you are in your 40's. So good luck destroying your body.
you don't know what you're talking about. dont talk about my dad, he's my coach, but it was my choice to lift, and i could quit whenever i want. nd it doesn't destroy your body, it's very good for you, so just shut up.
Yep. It's good for your cardiovascular system, good for strengthening your bones and sinews (as well as your muscles, obviously). It decreases risk of osteoporosis by a ton, and you get stronger joints. It also betters your posture, and makes you learn how to coordinate your joints better in accordance to each other.
Overall fantastic, wouldn't you say? *air lifting five*
Weightlifting isn't harmful to you if you do it right. Doing 220 lbs squats with bad form at the age of 10 is harmful. Lifting relatively heavily (for your age) isn't harmful. My uncle lifted heavy weights his entire early teens->, and he's one of the biggest and strongest people I know of.
He's 50 atm as well.
... and of course, I started lifting a few years ago as well. It's great.
i started lifting weights about a year ago and the muscles of my forearms got real big anyway i got strong as hell but started having pain while playing guitar in both forearms
because it didn't hurt while lifting i continued but thing is i got whats called exertional compartment syndrome so i can't play or lift until I lose some muscle
there are so many other problems you can get its just not worth it. and i got mine lifting correctly
If your forearms got so big you couldn't do anything, you must've been heavy on the growth hormones and steroids.
I've been lifting heavy for a few years now (deadlifting 440lbs e.g.), and though my forearms definitely got bigger and stronger, all it did was make my fingers more explosive. I've got better muscle memory than ever, and I've never had any problems what so ever (in almost 5 years now). Rather the complete opposite.
Either that, or you've got really crap genes for heavy work.
your comment is immature and I will not respond to it.
but I will say that i feel sorry for you that you cannot take advice in a productive manner but rather attack someone you don't know and tried to help you.
How is my comment immature? I'm pretty anxious to know what you did to ruin your lower arms by "lifting correctly", considering hundreds of thousands of people lift weights every day without any problems. Did you do 800lbs deadlifts 5 times a week mixed with kettlebell slams or something?
I lift kettlebells, bend steel, close a COC#2 for reps and have no problems with bass playing. If you are having issues try doing some work specifically for your forearm extensors (open fist in bucket of sand, open fingers against rubber bands etc) and some good joint mobility like ZHealth and your problems will go bye bye. Email me and I'll gladly point you in the right direction. The only issues I ever had were on my fretting hand from playing a bass whose ergonomics didn't agree with me.
Somethings wrong with you then. seriously. Cuz im a semi pro body builder. and I can still rip it and I have no pain in my forearms. Just stretch better my man. Look at petrucci. ha ha. hasn't effected him
Hey. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said. Im just sayin it hasn't slowed me down or petrucci. Just sayin. You just gotta be smart about it. And I have seen alot of musicians wear that same thing.
I didn't take offense at all. I was simply putting it out there. I really haven't heard anything else about him having problems. I'm 19 and my wrists and hands are falling apart. I don't lift at all, but I do martial arts on top of having played guitar for like 8 years now. I've been trying to figure out what the problem is, but I think they're just overused.
go to a massage therapist and have him or her check out your arms and back, he or she can help get rid of all the knots and hopefully give you stretches to help. oh and put your arms and hands in pots of really hot water for three minutes then 30 seconds really cold water
I think "falling apart" describes whats happening to my hand n arm too... :/
Had a reoccuring tendonistis problem. Never fully recovered and I feel the stress and strain manifesting in all kinds of other places up my arm, wrist and hand. I dread where its going.
Good luck with your potentially harmful olympic dream. Do you know that hundreds of thousands of American kids have 'olympic dreams', and probably like 100 of them have a future in it?
P.S. Lifting heavy weights can put pressure on your joints and bones, it also hurts your range of motion and flexibility. You should swim, it's it has the benefits weight lifting and running, without doing damage to your joints, bones, or heart. I'm 14, when I swam I went from benching like 120 to benching 170.
you think swimming is good but it gives you a soft body, and swimming is horrible for the shoulders. many dont know that. and its not a dream, its a reality, i dont care if i come in last at the olympics, ill still be there, and stronger than you.
looks like someones a real faggot (you) i bet you have tiny little balls and a tiny dick to match. if you were in front of me right now, you wouldn't say shit. because i would break both your arms and legs. grow a pair of nuts and insult someone in your general area. PUSSY.
actually your right, I am gay...but dont worry your just acting like an asshole because of the steroids. and come on, lets not talk about tiny balls, because im sure the roids have already taken care of yours. but i'll give you credit, you sure can talk for a little kid still living at home...
im not on steroids. and anyone accusing me of that shit has their brainless head up there unnaturally wide asshole. and im not a little kid. i was very young in the main picture for my channel. don't fuck with me who have no right to call anyone a freak for training for the olympics.
hmm...last time I checked 16 IS still a kid. You cant even buy alcohol...or see an R rated movie without your little daddy.but im sure after your dad molests you, you feel like a real man. I can picture your dad saying, "come on son if you really want to be in the Olympics, you have to get a rectal exam every day". as you reply, "thank you Daddy, now I'm a big boy!!"
wow, you were pretty detailed with that... you must know how it works then. well im sorry to dissapoint, but im not a filthy fudge packing cock sucking shrimper like you! and you wanna know what a shrimper is? *hint* it involves a straw and an ass full of cum. faggot.
wow, is that supposed to hurt my feelings? yeah im gay...and your right, I do like it up the ass...but your dad still molests you...and you still cheat by taking steroids...
ouch that hurt. you think my dad molests me. LOL. i wonder what your dad did to you. ill bet he's real proud of his wonderful homo son. go suck a dick and stay out of my goddamn business prick.
hahah, you know what? he is proud. do you know why? because no matter what I do, my dad will still love me, but on the other hand, I bet your dad would disown you if you stopped lifting weights...you know I'm right.
Ed opened his mouth in an April 81' issue of guitar player mag saying "I could play all that shit too if I wore my guitar up high". Well..., I loved ed as a kid and I heard about Alan thru him. They both have qualities. Alan obviously didnt let all the bullshit with the music biz excess misdirect him. He continues to elevate. Ed, he was an equally innovative musician, but didn't continue to grow musically all that much, (Coke). Thats the difference between the entertainment biz and pure music
they all sound bad except the bass and drums lol... obviously Eddie gets crapped on my Allan but who cares when there is no meaning of feeling to the chaos of the noise?
Wow what a great novelty post. Thank you! Obviously Eddie is out of his element here. I'd like more info on this, like - when and where was this done and who are the other players?
I don't like this type of music, but you must admire the talent on show, Allan Holdsworth is of course fantastic, and I thought EVH did a great job considering he is right out of his element here.
ozmium71 3 months ago
This is about the worst recording ever made. I got to wonder does Allan and Edddie think this is good?? No pattern or structure at all just random notes strung together . What a joke !!!
valkour22 4 months ago
PLAY IT BETTER OR SHUT THE FUK UP .........THIS IS ALAN HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ENJOY THEN LISTEN TO YNGWIE!
311superfly 5 months ago
can't say i care for this too much...but you won't catch me putting it down like some of the commenters here.
twst1 6 months ago
@IcolossusPSN Puh leeze....so you have transcribed some Holdsworth and some Coltrane and you can point to the same harmonic and melodic conceptualization? Explain in theory detail please......
3shiftgtr 7 months ago
I love how this shows you that even though Holdsworth's playing sounds like mindless noodling on the surface, it works perfectly with the music. Just listen to when Van Halen plays in the beginning and is obviously lost and noodling and then listen to Holdsworth's solo start at 1:55.
viper1991 10 months ago
Michael Anthony is quite the bass player. I had no idea! lol
hoestreicher 11 months ago
Holdsworth is a tough listen but there's many instances of pure sublime playing.
wikichris 11 months ago
congratulations on your artistic dumbdown. next time your girlfriend blindsides you don't blame it on the emotion you love so much. you would say the same of the statue of David or the Sistine Chapel. i find great emotion, even anguish in this performance. you're a sour-grapes-ing Philistine. i a little surprised you would be proud to demonstrate such abject stupidity in public. you don't understand string theory and i'd love for you to post your assessment of it. do you call that 'crap', too.
garyoleyar 1 year ago
This is exactly the kind of "music" I hate. You can hear the people shouting, laughing with glee at the technical prowess being demonstrated... so what, you're hitting all the right notes... its still mindless noodling, evokes absolutely no emotion whatsoever. This "music" isn't music at all, its just a technical demonstration. Ever note is important, as are the spaces in between. There's no connection here. No more "talent" being demonstrated than a kid who's good at guitar hero. Crap.
MrFretDoctor 1 year ago
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No doubt the man is good on a guitar,but his music has always gone over my head too.
Nevigo 11 months ago
@MrFretDoctor always interesting to see how some people are incapable of hearing the deepest most intense emotion of some of the finest music and yet give them some basic hip hop crap and they will love it. Very amusing that every word you said is the exact opposite of the truth.
NLPresultsnow 8 months ago
@NLPresultsnow What's amusing is that you think there is some universal "truth" to music, that some how you know "your" idea of good music is better than someone else's. That you fail to understand there's no "truth" when it comes to discussing music or any other art form just show's that you're not nearly as intelligent as you think you are! Look at all the comments here and see how many people hated this garbage. At least I qualified my remarks. Must have hit a nerve... ha ha!
MrFretDoctor 8 months ago
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@MrFretDoctor always interesting to see how some people are incapable of hearing the deepest most intense emotion of some of the finest music and yet give them some basic hip hop crap and they will love it. Very amusing that every word you said is the exact opposite of the truth.
NLPresultsnow 8 months ago
stupidest drums ever. stupid guitars and stupid bass part. i wonder if this should even be considered music.
jamesha175 1 year ago
I don't think Ed sounded so bad on it.Obviously not as wonderful as Holdsworth...but not bad!
I'll bet if EVH really put his mind to it he could become a great fusion improviser.
Guitfiddlejase 1 year ago 2
omg what the hell is this supose to be???
bigdaddystratman 1 year ago
@bigdaddystratman Rock/jazz/fusion.....in other words: noise.
darkknight91 1 year ago
This is EVH and Allen playing live at GIT.
SPGGuitar251 1 year ago
to be fair I'm sure AH wouldn't sound great in the context of a rock show but still, shows why you can't really compare two different types of guitarists.
viper1991 1 year ago
some of you Aholes forget EDDIE helped get Allan signed to a major label, for arguments sake he discovered Allan at a club and asked his management to get him a contract
AGENTxx47 1 year ago
EVH discovered AH for himself, not for the world: AH's Warner deal: 1 1984 release, 15yrs after AH'd begun recording, 9yrs after AH replaced John McLaughlin w/the "Tony Williams Lifetime", the era's most elite fusion gig. The Warner deal was a failure: AH was used to playing what he wanted w/the best players. He'd recorded regularly for years, & was recognized worldwide by fusion fans as the best. Warner tried to tell him what to play. EVH's heart's in the right place, but he did AH no favor.
lazur1 1 year ago
@lazur1 As I know the story, EVH tried to help AH and got him in touch with Warners. Allan began recording what eventually became Road Games, and when EVH found out that he started without him at the helm as producer, he flagged the project with corporate and asked AH to wait until he was done with the tour. AH didn't want EVH's stamp on his music, so he stopped and they released what was already in the can as an "EP". EVH was disappointed but no hard feelings.
3shiftgtr 7 months ago
Allan Holdsworth is the most important electric guitarist to date, he almost single handedly tore up fusion guitar playing & made most players of intelligence re-evaluate the instrument as a whole - Eddie Van Halen wouldnt disagree with this statement I am sure!
alembicbassguy 1 year ago 4
@alembicbassguy Defo a very influential guitarist. I hear many people play like allan holdsworth, but holdsworth himself sounds like no other.
Guitareben 1 year ago
It's fucking sad how guitar players now look at playing as a fucking dick measuring contest...It isn't and its not a competition. It's fucking music. Holdsworth is one of Eddie's idols and inspirations. Imagine if you got to play with one of your idols especially if you were fucking EVH! Even if you didn't play the best you still did it and improvised with the best.
kmal2t 1 year ago 2
His playing is so smooth, it hardly looks like he is moving.
Viren4Pre0 1 year ago 88
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hahaha good one
jasmicar 1 year ago
@Viren4Pre0 LOL
WallAlfyan 1 year ago
@Viren4Pre0
Made me chuckle, good one!
gitarmats 1 year ago
@Viren4Pre0 English stoicism...
ricardomontalban07 1 year ago
isnt Eddes strong point and rock n roll aint Alans. Why dont u give Eddie credit for trying to give Allan as much exposure s possible and trying tohelp his careet as opposed to MINDLESS bitching.
MetalCrossUK 1 year ago
Loooooooooooooool Eddie Van Halen has done way more for the guitar than Holdsworth ever did/has. Also Holdsworth fully acknowledges Van Halen was the true pionner of tapping. Lets take a look..... putting humbuckers on a strat and the first real user of floyd rose. Lets see Holdsworth write some songs that fill stadiums and play them after drinking a bottle of jack and snorting a sack of cocaine and after shagging a various bitches back stage. Clearly thissort of music
MetalCrossUK 1 year ago
@MetalCrossUK Sorry man but Eddie Van Halen wasn't the first to tap. Even if you look at the old Genesis stuff, Steve Hackett had done some tapping. I accept that Eddie popularized the technique but look at Shawn Lane's playing during Eddie's time at the forefront; he was better in every aspect. If you're a fan of coke and laying bitches that's cool but let's bring this back to the art of playing guitar. Props to Eddie for his contributions and his commitment to making Allan more known though.
KeithWhalen11 1 year ago
@KeithWhalen11 Yep Dance with the moonlit knight by Genesis one of my favourite bands.
MetalCrossUK 1 year ago
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@MetalCrossUK Eddie Van Halen has done way more for the guitar than Holdsworth ever did/has. Thats a pretty bold statement to make kid. They are BOTH monster players. EACH has their high & low points regarding their playing abilities. Jimi Hendrix & Steve Hackett were tapping long before Eddie & Alan came onto the scene.
uncleog 1 year ago
ugh i cant believe that i used to like van halen when i was a kid!
david roth is cool though.
sweetgyy 1 year ago
wow eddie showed up at the wrong jam-party. lol
dwilmer7 1 year ago
i dont get every body knocking van halen here ok he is not allan but there is actually some inventiveness in his solo first 2 min
questions613 1 year ago
ed's a rock guitar inovator..but this type of harmony is definately not his cup of tea... he should have just played the chords and let holdsworth solo...
dozerification 1 year ago
I'm looking at a lot of the comments and its not the fact of who is better its more of there styles clash.
kwizatch 1 year ago
van halen sounds like shit here. no match for holdsworth
sweetgyy 1 year ago 2
god this is horrible
lifeson46 1 year ago
The two guys are friends. It's silly to make some of the comments I'm seeing here. They both respect each other.
DarthKazi 1 year ago
@DarthKazi Amen.
Havarti33 1 year ago
The thing that amazes me, is that AH doesnt know a single thing about music theory, yet is prodigic at guitar.
Geetarfrik 1 year ago
@Geetarfrik sorry to burst your little bubble, but AH knows his theory, it's just the completely unique way in which he approaches that kind of masks it.
rexasul 1 year ago 6
Van Halen is so outmatched here it's embarassing for him...
Then again, Holdsworth is on another planet...in another dimension.
AbbathGS 1 year ago 10
@AbbathGS Allan not just super human, He is one of the few true musical masters
Kenman540 1 year ago
I first heard his stuff with Planet X... and I was like 'Okay, this guy is THE SHIT!'
Gotta love him.
LunaticAspect 1 year ago
Constant guitar riffs. That's Holdsworth Style, If your between 16 through 29 years of age , you'll love this guy.
wordauras 1 year ago
im 14 and i love him, i dont know ANYONE who is under 20 that even knows him though.. disappointing
HiddenDarksage 1 year ago
Good for you, and you may be right about that.
wordauras 1 year ago
16 year old here. he's some kind of wizard. he's so good even he cant play the stuff he plays
plopenstien 1 year ago
hes just amazing, and i cant believe people put petrucci and malmsteen ahead of him even when all the "great" guitarists have said themselves that he is god. just ridiculous, and also people who call him repetitive, hahaha, now THAT is ridiculous.
HiddenDarksage 1 year ago 5
@HiddenDarksage I think that has to do with the fact that Petrucci and Malmsteen play a type of music that's a little bit more popular than jazz fusion lol. Also, people will usually say that the faster guitarist is better. I personally love Petrucci, but Allan really blow him away as a guitarist.
MorbidGuardian 1 year ago
@MorbidGuardian yeah i 100% agree with you being honest, faster =/= better, but people still think that. petrucci isnt actually that bad, out of all the shredders id pick him, but yeah allan blows everyone away haha
HiddenDarksage 1 year ago
@HiddenDarksage From thousands of genial players, 1 become famous... =/
RickDuracell 1 year ago
is this music?
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janderson2000 1 year ago
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While Eddie did help Allan, that's a bit of a overstatement to say Allan would not have made a living in music without Eddie. He was doing it for a decade before meeting Eddie, and all Eddie really did was to help Allan get on Warner Bros for an EP that turned out to be a nightmare for Allan.
janderson2000 1 year ago
Are you kidding? I've never met any Holdsworth fan that was one because of Eddie. Eddie seems to have been sincere in his desire to help, being a fan, but what he did was introduce him to Ted Templeman, a man who immediately proceeded to become a thorn in Allan's side until the ordeal of the one mini-album Templeman "produced" of Allan's was over. The interviews you refer to are a figment of your imagination.
Gregorypeckory 1 year ago
really odd .. the bassist takes a blazing solo at about 4:10 .. it's clearly Holdsworth playing one of the guitars, and the other player is totally out of his element - as in TOTALLY.
Barely hear Allan in the mix, but the chording backing up the bass solo tells me it's Holdsworth.
Sounds like a loose jam - parts of it are quite good .. other parts, not so good. That ain't Wackerman or Williams on drums, that's for sure.
shpilk 2 years ago
eddie van halen PLEASE stick to pop music!!
holdsworth is a master at what he plays
sweetgyy 2 years ago
Van halens pop music is terrible.. he should stick to what he does best. Kick ass hard rock, like VH1 and 2
ill3stV1llain 1 year ago
whos this bassist???
DustinDrums1 2 years ago
holdsworth starts to play solo at 2:00
petar870602 2 years ago
you can hear pretty easily when holdsworth comes in, lol.
1:55 onwards is bearable.
viper1991 2 years ago
i agree eddies playing sounds bad here but he was only trying to help allan holdsworth out because this was supposed to be his last gig because he was broke.
iownallnoobs 2 years ago
you guys should get a life ... none of you are probably a 1/3 as good a guitarist as anyone playing on here .. and by the way this is a total spoof .. this is some goofball band neither holdsworth or anyone else supposed to be playing is playing .. it just shows your musical nouse that you even belived it ... *sigh ..
Minor8Flat4 2 years ago
Thank God I read your comment after a few seconds...I was like, WTF is this...?
danbojitsu 2 years ago
proof please?
viper1991 2 years ago
Well damn, f that's just some goofball band, where can I get a record of them? Because the guitarist and bassist are the best musicians I've ever heard. .
viper1991 2 years ago
wow, goofballs?.... seriously?
YAZZ69er 2 years ago
Eddie doesn't play anywhere on this track you goofballs! lol
AmericanDiaz 2 years ago
No offence to Eddie but he should avoid playing in this kind of company - it makes his playing look bad!
alembicbassguy 2 years ago 23
no offence but offence
drmedwuast 2 years ago 2
@alembicbassguy lkamen brother. different league for sure.
ninjajo11 1 year ago
@alembicbassguy you really dont know much about rock n roll guitar do you?
hockeydudeluv 1 year ago
@hockeydudeluv I know more about rock n roll guitar than you would ever guess amigo! You are entitled to your opinion though.
alembicbassguy 1 year ago
@alembicbassguy Yeah unfortunately a similar thing happened when he shared the stage with Steve Morse & Ry Cooder..Eventually after Ed ran out of licks, he resorted to overusing tricks, IE: dive bombs, elephant harmonics, etc.. he eventually stood back, scratching his head & let Steve & Ry finish the set..no dis towards Ed, he was just out of his element that night.
uncleog 1 year ago 2
What makes Holdsworth so cool is he's playing saxophone riffs on the guitar. And that's him in a nutshell.
Zubirrex 2 years ago
a bit overly simplified but he has said that he prefers the sound of the sax over guitar
viper1991 2 years ago
he also does wide intervals lines that are similar to the piano
averylicious22 2 years ago
I love the "riff" or "progression" that is the root of everything else here. Stylish and jazzy.
One wishes that Eddie would have allowed himself to do some jazz mini-albums on the side along with his rock career, giving his rock fans the implicit understanding that it would be all-instrumental stuff. I think he might have found it rewarding to do a club tour with just some "other" musicians playing simply the guitar with no singer.
taghl 2 years ago
Holdwsorth and Berlin are modern-day maestros. Berlin is right about music education from early ages. Holdsworth didn't start till 20. If he'd have started at 12.........as unbelievable as it sounds, he might have even been better. Which is freakin' scary. Love these guys
taghl 2 years ago
100% correct - nice to hear a sensible opinion from someone who actually understands what they are hearing.
Holdsworth and Berlin are absolutely at the top of the musical tree. Perfect embodiments of true virtuosity!
alembicbassguy 2 years ago
He was 17 before he started to play the guitar. still late though.
SevenCircles 2 years ago 2
On the violin before that
fivecatseatmoose 2 years ago
Alex Lifeson is also an Allan Holdsworth nut.
I highly recommend: I.O.U. debut.
If you can find Tempest? You'll hear Warner Bros. 1st or 2nd attempt at a Van Halen type band in 1973, 5-years before VH. Along with of course Montrose, also produced by Ted Templeman, and engineered by Don Landee.
Yeah, I know, The Doobie Brothers were different. After Tempest, Holdsworth joined Soft Machine. He played with KROKUS! That's fascinating! And I thought Level 42 was a bizarre match Life AH enthusiast.
drunksingsheep 2 years ago
Just for all you VH fans...EVH has said on more than one occasion that Holdsworth was a huge influence on his playing...especially his legatto runs...
trollgoal 2 years ago 2
For all you Holdsworth fans, EVH helped Allan boost his career, look up Allan Holdsworth on wikipeda & also theirs an old interview w/EVH where he speaks about how this phenomenal player no would help, EVH did, very un-selfish Thanks EDdie!
GoofyGuitar68 2 years ago
who gives a shit about what wikipedia says
guitargod81 2 years ago
Who gives a shit about what guitargod81 says! wHEN YOU DIE U MIGHT JUST MAKE THE OBITUARIES IN THE NEWS PAPERS!
GoofyGuitar68 2 years ago
i agree with Reductio...they gave him a really fucked up progression play on..funny hearing him being put on the spot in a jazz context though
ojfree32 2 years ago
If you play it fast enough it's all in key - lol!!!
tacomadc 2 years ago
That sounds like VH. Kinda fucked up to give him a progression like this to play over. He's not a jazz player, so he was just completely winging it.
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kcper1 2 years ago
I could just be an idiot, but is this Van Halen doing like a Holdsworth jam, or is it Van Halen and Holdsworth? I think it's the previous of the two but i was just wondering, thanks.
Hanz780 2 years ago
Yeah some or this sounds way too much like Van Halen phrasing-wise to be Allen. The repeated unison bends are a giveaway for one thing. I'm pretty sure it's Holdsworth and VanHalen together.
wenglish1968 2 years ago
I'm a Chiropractor and work often with musicians - I know Arlo Gordin who treats most of the musicians in Hollywood too. Overplaying is always a problem with anybody serious, and this type of technique stretches your hands into VERY unatural positions - watch out! And see a good Chiropractor too. It's as much in the tension of neck and shoulders as in your hands and wrists.
tacomadc 2 years ago
Are you sure he is still in LA? the last thing I knew about him is the he was in Brazil after some kind of scam in the Scientology church. Is he back?
variopintos 2 years ago
Gordin? Not sure - it's been a long time.
tacomadc 2 years ago
" I've been trying to figure out what the problem is, but I think they're just overused."
Probably overuse, or too much tension/poor wrist angles in your playing.
If you're experiencing pain immediately stop doing any activities that cause pain and see a doctor.
largemoose 2 years ago
van got owned
bally28 2 years ago 3
I get hes a beast on the old guitar but most of his stuff is tuf to listen to.
AWood28 3 years ago
yeah somne of it is..."outside"
ilrs 3 years ago
really great playing,i also like the uk chap billy pezzack
laylasheleh 3 years ago
Hmm its a bit cold - like a dead celibates balls lol they dont usually work, these things ( like Mclaughlin/Santana) go to the Bundles vid for sheer hodsworth bliss!
gotears2listen 3 years ago
hmmmmmmmm, gunna hafta disagree on John Mac and Santana not going well together. have you even listened to LDS or any of the tracks off of it?
tuckerthefucker 3 years ago
That's a really cool side of Edward I've never really heard before. Wow!
The drummer is so dam busy he clutters up the jam.
gmrios 3 years ago
the first solos isnt really Holdsworth...
i am positive when i heard it now..
before i kind of put it of the middle of the song ......the guitar from 0:00 to 2:15 isnt played by holdsworth i am sure 100 %
petar870602 3 years ago
I have this tape with the entire show. I've had it since early 1983 and I think this is from '82 either at the Roxy in Hollywood or else at GIT because Eddie Van Halen jammed with Allan on stage at least those two times. The first solo is a nervous Ed then at 1:56 Allan at 4:05 I'm pretty sure it's Jeff Berlin and 6:20 Chad Wackerman because they were with Allan at the time. I saw him at least 10 times between 81 and 85. Then Ed gives it another try @ 7:34. They jammed on an Ed riff also.
djangothecat 3 years ago
this can't be allan holdsworth
otherkind0 3 years ago
its holdsworth just the recording is bad!
petar870602 3 years ago
really i know its bad quality but the musics sucks and allan holdsworth is freaken great. there is something wrong there.
otherkind0 3 years ago
wait never mind i didn't lisen in far enough. thats holdsworth.
otherkind0 3 years ago
Okay, now I get what all that unfair commentary was about. I'm assuming the majority of U who post on this video are shred or fusion fans. This doesn't sound anywhere near as difficult to listen to as U might find Keith Jarrett in his solo improvisations. Well, Eddie sounds pretty bad. But this is a rock jam, and all rock jams meander in search of cohesive musical ideas. Rockers aren't schooled in thematic development I'm afraid, and it's too bad Holdsworth needed its selling power at the time.
lisahayes3 3 years ago
The drumming sounds just awful ...
Bass solo is excellent ..
Odiculeoj 3 years ago
It's funny isn't it. Both guys love each others stuff.... a jam is a jam, they probably had a good laugh.....
NreeKelBastardos 3 years ago
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Sorry but this is beyond painful to listen to...its just pure garbage...in fact its not even music...its mindless crap...its doodling and noodling in and out of keys with no sense of any musical intelligence...this is an insult to
music!!!
gh201059 3 years ago
I agree sometimes jazz loses all the feel and good progression and melody that a lot of music needs. But be careful about insulting Fusion like this. People will say that 'you just don't understand the complexity of it'. Well the reality is that I get it, but it just sounds bad. I do love jazz though, I just think that some of it sounds terrible, this isn't even that bad, I kind of like it.
blahman178 3 years ago 3
thank you
seems like when you hear something thats awful in jazz the first thing that comes out of their mouth is "oh this is to complex for you"
i cant play with these kinda of guys
something about it just dosnt catch my attention music wise "technique" oh yeah theirs many but how many can play melodic?
well i guess thats the joy of music it dosnt really have a forum and every one likes what they hear many people like this stuff and many people dont
either way i respect every musician
kotzen081 3 years ago 3
Ya exactly, an example of a great guitarist who can play as well as Holdsworth is Eric Johnson, he makes some better sounding stuff.
blahman178 3 years ago
its just bad quality. you couldn't hope to play as good as those guys.
otherkind0 3 years ago
Before you throw around insults like that, you should know what you are talking about. Holdsworth is one of my favorites, I was just sympathizing with the comment about how fusion can sound 'robotic' at times. I do feel that way about John McLaughlin, although I respect him deeply, I just think his music is all strange progressions and time signatures, with no good melody. Also, before you jump down my throat, you should know that I am a guitarist in a fusion band.....
blahman178 3 years ago
shut up.
otherkind0 3 years ago 2
Nice reply....So on your channel, I see that you are having kids who look to be 10 years old lifting heavy weights. No child wants to do that without pushing from their parents. You are a sicko to make children lift weights like that. What the hell is wrong with you?
blahman178 3 years ago
thats me lifting weights you idiot im 16 years old and im ranked number 2 in the country. im training for the olympics. my dad is not a sicko i choose to train and its my olympic dream so fuck off. i told you to shut up cuz i don't wanna argue. mind your own fuckin business.
otherkind0 3 years ago
But you were liftin when you were like 10, that's unhealthy. I don't know of any ten year olds ever who lift on their own, you probably have an overbearing dad who is trying to live vicariously through you, because he was never an athletic star. Lifting weights is awesome, but it can be bad for your body if you lift such heavy weights at a young age. You will also get an enlarged heart, and probably have a massive heart attack by the time you are in your 40's. So good luck destroying your body.
blahman178 3 years ago
you don't know what you're talking about. dont talk about my dad, he's my coach, but it was my choice to lift, and i could quit whenever i want. nd it doesn't destroy your body, it's very good for you, so just shut up.
otherkind0 3 years ago
Yep. It's good for your cardiovascular system, good for strengthening your bones and sinews (as well as your muscles, obviously). It decreases risk of osteoporosis by a ton, and you get stronger joints. It also betters your posture, and makes you learn how to coordinate your joints better in accordance to each other.
Overall fantastic, wouldn't you say? *air lifting five*
jan1080 3 years ago 2
yeah true man. isn't it funny how we're talking about lifting on a guitar video. haha
otherkind0 3 years ago 3
Allan Holdsworth and weightlifting is a pretty funny combination. But hey, I love it:D
jan1080 3 years ago
same here man.
otherkind0 3 years ago
Weightlifting isn't harmful to you if you do it right. Doing 220 lbs squats with bad form at the age of 10 is harmful. Lifting relatively heavily (for your age) isn't harmful. My uncle lifted heavy weights his entire early teens->, and he's one of the biggest and strongest people I know of.
He's 50 atm as well.
... and of course, I started lifting a few years ago as well. It's great.
jan1080 3 years ago
hey bro,
i started lifting weights about a year ago and the muscles of my forearms got real big anyway i got strong as hell but started having pain while playing guitar in both forearms
because it didn't hurt while lifting i continued but thing is i got whats called exertional compartment syndrome so i can't play or lift until I lose some muscle
there are so many other problems you can get its just not worth it. and i got mine lifting correctly
if the guitar is important to you stop lifting
XxXxXJonathanXxXxX 3 years ago
If your forearms got so big you couldn't do anything, you must've been heavy on the growth hormones and steroids.
I've been lifting heavy for a few years now (deadlifting 440lbs e.g.), and though my forearms definitely got bigger and stronger, all it did was make my fingers more explosive. I've got better muscle memory than ever, and I've never had any problems what so ever (in almost 5 years now). Rather the complete opposite.
Either that, or you've got really crap genes for heavy work.
jan1080 3 years ago 2
your comment is immature and I will not respond to it.
but I will say that i feel sorry for you that you cannot take advice in a productive manner but rather attack someone you don't know and tried to help you.
grow up.
XxXxXJonathanXxXxX 3 years ago
How is my comment immature? I'm pretty anxious to know what you did to ruin your lower arms by "lifting correctly", considering hundreds of thousands of people lift weights every day without any problems. Did you do 800lbs deadlifts 5 times a week mixed with kettlebell slams or something?
jan1080 3 years ago
I lift kettlebells, bend steel, close a COC#2 for reps and have no problems with bass playing. If you are having issues try doing some work specifically for your forearm extensors (open fist in bucket of sand, open fingers against rubber bands etc) and some good joint mobility like ZHealth and your problems will go bye bye. Email me and I'll gladly point you in the right direction. The only issues I ever had were on my fretting hand from playing a bass whose ergonomics didn't agree with me.
SinisterNix 2 years ago 2
also if u have a wizard neck get rid of it. it is so flat it could do this bro
bitcheznhos 2 years ago
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musicians... think they know everything and they don't have a clue.
holdup578 2 years ago
well they know about music
and thats all they need to give advice like this dood did
beleniumoxide 2 years ago 3
George Lynch had a similar problem, except it was with his hands. I think it was from weight lifting or using those hand grip builders.
SYNguitar14 2 years ago
Somethings wrong with you then. seriously. Cuz im a semi pro body builder. and I can still rip it and I have no pain in my forearms. Just stretch better my man. Look at petrucci. ha ha. hasn't effected him
tastefulphrasing 2 years ago
If you watch the DVD that came with their Systematic Chaos CD, Petrucci actually is wearing a wrist brace in some parts.
mouthofacowboy 2 years ago
Hey. I hope you didn't take offense to what I said. Im just sayin it hasn't slowed me down or petrucci. Just sayin. You just gotta be smart about it. And I have seen alot of musicians wear that same thing.
tastefulphrasing 2 years ago 2
I didn't take offense at all. I was simply putting it out there. I really haven't heard anything else about him having problems. I'm 19 and my wrists and hands are falling apart. I don't lift at all, but I do martial arts on top of having played guitar for like 8 years now. I've been trying to figure out what the problem is, but I think they're just overused.
mouthofacowboy 2 years ago
go to a massage therapist and have him or her check out your arms and back, he or she can help get rid of all the knots and hopefully give you stretches to help. oh and put your arms and hands in pots of really hot water for three minutes then 30 seconds really cold water
spooner1957 2 years ago
I think "falling apart" describes whats happening to my hand n arm too... :/
Had a reoccuring tendonistis problem. Never fully recovered and I feel the stress and strain manifesting in all kinds of other places up my arm, wrist and hand. I dread where its going.
FretMunky88 2 years ago
Good luck with your potentially harmful olympic dream. Do you know that hundreds of thousands of American kids have 'olympic dreams', and probably like 100 of them have a future in it?
P.S. Lifting heavy weights can put pressure on your joints and bones, it also hurts your range of motion and flexibility. You should swim, it's it has the benefits weight lifting and running, without doing damage to your joints, bones, or heart. I'm 14, when I swam I went from benching like 120 to benching 170.
blahman178 3 years ago
you think swimming is good but it gives you a soft body, and swimming is horrible for the shoulders. many dont know that. and its not a dream, its a reality, i dont care if i come in last at the olympics, ill still be there, and stronger than you.
otherkind0 3 years ago
ha, special Olympic dream...you fucking freak, your wasting you life, and you will never be anything!
brianmooredc1 3 years ago
looks like someones a real faggot (you) i bet you have tiny little balls and a tiny dick to match. if you were in front of me right now, you wouldn't say shit. because i would break both your arms and legs. grow a pair of nuts and insult someone in your general area. PUSSY.
otherkind0 3 years ago
actually your right, I am gay...but dont worry your just acting like an asshole because of the steroids. and come on, lets not talk about tiny balls, because im sure the roids have already taken care of yours. but i'll give you credit, you sure can talk for a little kid still living at home...
brianmooredc1 3 years ago
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im not on steroids. and anyone accusing me of that shit has their brainless head up there unnaturally wide asshole. and im not a little kid. i was very young in the main picture for my channel. don't fuck with me who have no right to call anyone a freak for training for the olympics.
otherkind0 3 years ago
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hmm...last time I checked 16 IS still a kid. You cant even buy alcohol...or see an R rated movie without your little daddy.but im sure after your dad molests you, you feel like a real man. I can picture your dad saying, "come on son if you really want to be in the Olympics, you have to get a rectal exam every day". as you reply, "thank you Daddy, now I'm a big boy!!"
brianmooredc1 3 years ago
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wow, you were pretty detailed with that... you must know how it works then. well im sorry to dissapoint, but im not a filthy fudge packing cock sucking shrimper like you! and you wanna know what a shrimper is? *hint* it involves a straw and an ass full of cum. faggot.
otherkind0 3 years ago
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wow, is that supposed to hurt my feelings? yeah im gay...and your right, I do like it up the ass...but your dad still molests you...and you still cheat by taking steroids...
brianmooredc1 3 years ago
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ouch that hurt. you think my dad molests me. LOL. i wonder what your dad did to you. ill bet he's real proud of his wonderful homo son. go suck a dick and stay out of my goddamn business prick.
otherkind0 3 years ago
hahah, you know what? he is proud. do you know why? because no matter what I do, my dad will still love me, but on the other hand, I bet your dad would disown you if you stopped lifting weights...you know I'm right.
brianmooredc1 3 years ago
Who are the other musicians? Bass player sounds very much like Jeff Berlin...
littlefinch 3 years ago
i think its jimmy johnson
jikyboytz 3 years ago
Ed is embarrassing on this. Why did he do this... Painful.
janderson2000 3 years ago
This is a superb jam, no matter what anyone thinks. Thanks.
aussieangie 3 years ago
Ed opened his mouth in an April 81' issue of guitar player mag saying "I could play all that shit too if I wore my guitar up high". Well..., I loved ed as a kid and I heard about Alan thru him. They both have qualities. Alan obviously didnt let all the bullshit with the music biz excess misdirect him. He continues to elevate. Ed, he was an equally innovative musician, but didn't continue to grow musically all that much, (Coke). Thats the difference between the entertainment biz and pure music
durtmagert 3 years ago 5
they all sound bad except the bass and drums lol... obviously Eddie gets crapped on my Allan but who cares when there is no meaning of feeling to the chaos of the noise?
lindosupreme 3 years ago
this is smokin!!! its raw and unedited. you can hear how they really play.
marc777danielle 3 years ago
this grows on you the more you hear it, thought ed did pretty good in the last part of the jam.
jaypresa 3 years ago
allan > rest of the world
sorry folks but this is the real world
and allan beat it
peace
kkdpp789 3 years ago
If this is a video, put a video on it.
Allan is equal to himself so to say : amazing.
Groovinsmile
Groovinsmile 3 years ago
Wow what a great novelty post. Thank you! Obviously Eddie is out of his element here. I'd like more info on this, like - when and where was this done and who are the other players?
Alcivarus 3 years ago
This was early 80's at the Roxy theater. It's refered to in this month's Guitar Player magazine with Allan on the cover.
edgarallenhoe 3 years ago