HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
There are poor people all over the world. They have been cheated by Koreans. They have believed a history of haidong gumdo.They are victims of Korean crime. This is an unprecedented scale of fraud case.
Corea has no samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country.
The Westerner who is ignorant of an Asian history is deceived
hwarang history was a lie →watch?v=VtZ2lYKDHA8
Please do not steal a soul of Japanese with a samurai
and korean please stop making a fantasy myth newly
Wow....is this Kendo (剣道) lesson ?? What is "Haedong kumdo " ??? Poor Korean now teaching Japanese Sword arts as Korean's to innocent European or American People.... I have never learnt that Korea has martial arts anyway.... recently I have seen so may video clips showing strange Fake Korean martial arts....
Why do they use samurai swords? If kumdo is based on Korean culture. They should use Korean traditional swords. Korean traditional swords are straignt and double-edged swords like Chinese ones. Koreans had preferentially used Chinese things because of sinocentrism. In fact, Haidong is not a historical existence. It was started recently. Asian people know that.
oh my gosh, are you serious?? both China and Korea have MANY types of swords -- some are straight; some are curved: some are double-edged; some are single-edged.
@centraltheorem2076 Well, even during chosun period Korean did have Japanese sword because of its superiority. And Koreans also did have double edged sword well as single edged blade. Anyway, Haedong kumdo was created late 70's based under japanese sword art.
People are still arguing about this? Both the Kendo and Haidong Gumdo nuthuggers are guilty of ignorance. Neither arts were copied from each other. Haidong Gumdo was systemized by Kim Jeong-ho in the early 1980's, when it branched off from Gichunmun. He took elements of Gichunmun (which is actually a derivative of Shandong Province's Mantis style), namely stances and kinetic linking, and intergrated them with Kim Chang-sik's Shimgumdo.
People - Kendo and Haidong Gumdo are not the same.
@KimInLosAngeles SOO TRUE! fuck you japs! i just wanna point out last years world series championship between korea and japan too. FUCK that pitcher yarvish from the japanese team! the rest of those fuckers who hide under his mini-skirt suckin his and doin a bukkake orgy in there you can't keep yarvish doin your dirty work for you, you dolphin killing fucks! suck on my rice ball BITCHES :D
There is a law of action & reaction in the universe,
so I hope the Japanese to get some kind of reprisal as the result of countless lies they spread via internet.
Japanese made an English website that claims that all the Japanese soldiers who committed Nanjing/Nanking Massacre were actually Koreans who were drafted by Japanese army.
Japanese are the most audacious liars in the history of human race.
Gosling3, have you nothing better to do than try and putdown Haidong Gumdo. This is the third video I found with you bringing on your Diarrhoea of the mouth comments. I should also like to point out that Haidong Gumdo is not Kendo or even Kumdo. and to those out there who say Haidong Gumdo is a fake art, all I can say is where is your proof? Seriously, give me a newspaper article, a court record not just your word on it.
look this martial art is unknow from some people, this martial art is not a fake im practicing this martial art, this art is from the mountains of korea.
You do not know what you are talking about. Visit a good Haedong Kumdo dojang - then You see how we really train. We, by the way, know about kendo: kendo and iaido members has visited in our trainings - and found HK very interesting art... I find your comments typical "japanese admirers" comments. And: do not speak about GOOD BEHAVIOR: calling something "crap" or "complete cheating" is not actually showing good behavior. Your sensei should teach You more about that... have a nice day.
no matter how they really train hard, FAKE IS FAKE. It is the total insults to Japanese kendo rooted way back in Samurai time....almost 1000yrs back. You are talking about behavior Sensei, alright then, how do you explain your insults toword Japanese traditional martial art by playing FAKE Kendo?
vayrynenfi Just see Kumdo Propaganda YT posts. Even Korean admit Kumdo is FAKE. What kind of swording involving flashy jump cut? These actions are came from Samurai movies and some crap Chinese Kangfu actions. WAKE UP! This is NOT THE ART!! KID's Play!!!!!
it´s wear u know? i thought that japanese phylosophy & SAMURAI way was about respect, honor & tolerance... japan, china & korea had been influenced between them since years ago & yes HG & HK both are moderm martial arts and? is there a problem? but that doesn´t mean that is a completly fake or "game" first if you´re a good kendo student, RESPECT!, i know this isn´t ur martial art but u don´t have to insult others! if u want to ask something do it but in an peaceful or tolerant way please
Insult is copy very spiritual part of Kendo by claiming different. Why call Kumgo while all others naitons call Kendo. RESPECT original is proper manner. Kendo is all about traditions and kata, there are absolutely no tollerance on with changing traditions on such things. Norrow minded? How do you explain to those who practiced Kendo for his entire life and yet you have fake one in Korea?
Yes they are, proper chagkums. They are members of UWHKF not WHGF. In our federation, chagkums are these. Probably You are member of different federation . Have a nice day, from Haedong Kumdo 3rd dan.
Do you expect green belts to perform like higher belts ?? After six or so months of training, do You expect master-level performance? Have You ever been beginner...:-) ? Do You remember your own stances and your of stiffness? LOL
Hello I am a black belt in this martial art. The practice of gumdo is a rich and deep experience which teaches us the beauty and fragility of life and the indomitable spirit of the warrior. most of the forms up until black belt are designed to train the student how to wield the sword in ancient battlefield mindset. Yes this martial art is nothing like kendo(also a wonderful warrior tradition) but it is a very valid and wonderful method of sword training...may you all find your bliss.
Very well said. I am HK instructor, and actually i have been instructing these students who perform in this demo/video. It is good that persons from HK/HG society says what this martial art is all about. It is certainly NOT kendo - it is very complicated and logical way of how to use sword - and how to live right way. All the best from HK 3rd dan.
I do not have time and interested to communicate with such narrow minded person like you. You cant even see that your art, Kendo, has nothing to do with battlefield fighting. It is not any traditional Kenjutsu-ryu. It is just modern competition sport. Very nice as sportsplay, but actually NOTHING to do with sword fighting. Secundarily, You obviously know nothing about HK - among many other things You obviously know nothing about. Have a great day and have a nice life! :-)
It is a martial art based on one vs many (not one vs one like kendo) also is completly different to kendo because HG and HK give more importance to the forms (katas in japanese) and kendo is focus in combat... about "DAN", there are many words that mean the same and are writen equal in japanese and korean like "DO" gumDO, taekwonDO, kenDO, aikiDO and the meaning is the same "way" or another similar is "dojang" or "dojo" in japanese ^^
You have COMPLETE misunderstandings. Kendo is all about Kata. If you hit opponent without kata, hit isn't effective. And in Japan, it call DO(道）too. DAN, wear, words, all copied Japanese one. And this thing is originated in mid 20th century. It is not completely different, but it is 90% copy of Kento, I would say.
Haedong Kumdo is NOT kendo. It is much more. Black belts practise with real sword, it is not game. Many people seem to misundertand and think that we have something to do with Kendo. No, we have nothing to do with kendo. If You (Gosling3) are martial artist, Your teacher obviously did not reming You about importance if good behavior. Judging something as "shit" tells alot about person. Advanced personalities does not need such expressions... Think about that, and talk with You sensei.
Nothing to do with Kendo...then stop wearing kendo wear, stop use Kendo swords, and stop use same words like DAN classification. And Blackbelts are for Judo and Karate only. Not on Korean and Chinese martial arts.
As I am a Kendo player myself. Importance of behavior means not stealing from someone and claim it as if it belong to you. That's bottom line of good behavior. Kendo organization never claimed this copy crap...I think they should.
Did anyone suggest they should use same cloth and same stick to make it similar? And to make it bit difference by adding chiild play like swings from anime actions? Japanese Kendo is not like this child play.
Just because someone is doing things differently than in Japan doesnt make it wrong - just different.
Just choose yourself favorite martial art and practice it until you drop - whining about what is the best / most effective / "right" or whatever martial art is the most childish thing there is.
Surely you will post us some great kendo kata of your own?
Though id love to start a debate with you, ill will not. It would degenerate down into meaningless simple minded flame-trolling war and youd win me by experience.
As much as I personally dislike kendo and see it as an impractical sword style, it's above Kumdo in its legitimacy.
Kumdo was and still is a complete fabrication developed in the 1980's by someone meditating on a sword and not training with it. Which explains the poor technique.
Meditations are root of this, what they call "worrier swordmanship"....I knew founder made HK with this way...but hey, sorry, I completely miss the point.. How one can make swording by meditation?
And why they should use Kendo wear and Kendo-like sword (shinai, or bokuto) and classification call DAN? I think this is COMPLETE CHEATING on someone who do not know Kendo and its tradition.
Actually, these are very well made forms according to their level. Did You realize that they was just green belts when this video was recorded (2nd colored belt in Haedong Kumdo, after white and yellow)? If You have nothing productive to say, just shut up and go to "do it better" yourself. Obviously You are not high level martial artist, if You would be- You would not write such stupid comment.Martial art training is also to cultivate personality, if thats missing... good luck.
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HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.
Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.
I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.
The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.
enushisama 6 days ago
nice sword dance
NickDan555 1 month ago
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It is monkey business to insist on the Korea samurai and martial arts without a Korean having existed.
It is a fact that Korea was a dependency of Chinese 明、清 for a long time in 李氏朝鮮 Korea.
There are not society background and the base which there is a samurai.
I want you to wake from shameful Korea clown.
It is only a monkey clown.
wolfpack13000 3 months ago
fake kendo hahahahaha~~~~~~~
JOSE1224100 5 months ago
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Please watch
watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw
enushisama 6 months ago
朝鮮王朝實録：The Annals of the choson Dynasty (The True Record of the Korean Dynasty)…
【June 11, 1480】矧惟國人, 不慣槍劍, 專業弓矢, 爲禦敵之備
The people were not accustomed to use of sword or spear, defended from enemies only by archery...
【October 13, 1592】上敎政院曰“我國絶無劒手”
The king said “There was no swordman in our country at all”...
【July 11, 1594】我國自古劍術不傳
There has not been descendent any swordplay from ancient time in our country...
enushisama 6 months ago
There are poor people all over the world. They have been cheated by Koreans. They have believed a history of haidong gumdo.They are victims of Korean crime. This is an unprecedented scale of fraud case.
expedition60 7 months ago
武藝圖譜通志Muye Dobo Tongji : Comprehensive Illustrated Manual of Martial Arts in Korea .
It is an official document at a Korean Dynasty, written by The Korean King order in the 18th century.
國練兵之制三軍練于郊，衛士練于禁苑，其禁苑練兵盛自 光廟朝，然止弓矢一技而已如槍劍法技，既未之聞焉，
Archery was the only martial art that had been practiced by Korean soldiers. They have no skills of sword or spear fighting.
購得戚繼光紀效新書遣訓局郎韓嶠遍質東來將士
Therefore¬¬, Koreans began learning sword skills and others from Chinese.
enushisama 7 months ago
The samurai did not exist in the history of the Korean Peninsula.
As for the times when a Korean places a sword in a waist and existed like a samurai in a hakama, there is not it.
A Korean opens the dojo studio, and neither the times when I trained nor the place nor the document nor the record has mind and body.
In 李氏朝鮮 Korea of 500 years, the background of the existence of the samurai does not have the method of the life, too either.
wolfpack13000 7 months ago
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William Elliot Griffis, Corea the Hermit Nation,
Corea has no samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country.
The Westerner who is ignorant of an Asian history is deceived
hwarang history was a lie →watch?v=VtZ2lYKDHA8
Please do not steal a soul of Japanese with a samurai
and korean please stop making a fantasy myth newly
saburaix 7 months ago
Wow....is this Kendo (剣道) lesson ?? What is "Haedong kumdo " ??? Poor Korean now teaching Japanese Sword arts as Korean's to innocent European or American People.... I have never learnt that Korea has martial arts anyway.... recently I have seen so may video clips showing strange Fake Korean martial arts....
truehistoryteller 8 months ago
When Japanese culture is accepted in the world, the Korean wants it.
A child
I turn and why am a kung fu movie?
Do these people think that martial arts are dramas?
Such a useless movement is not martial arts.
Impurity do not hold traditional culture in Japan!
Is a sword a dangerous thing?
It is not a thing living on play.
An injured person appears sometime when I do such a how to swing.
According to a Japanese, I am seen only in the play of the amateur.
koisan1000 10 months ago 3
一生懸命偽剣道を練習してる…。酷すぎだわ。
意味なくぴょんぴょん跳ねたり、軸ぶれぶれの袈裟斬りは型としてKOREAイトしたニダんですね。もむちゃくちゃだわ。選択の自由は彼らにあると思うけれど。
もうちょっと。なんで木刀に曲げがあるのか、細いのか、考えて欲しい。
sakura0jp0aikidodesu 10 months ago 5
Why do they use samurai swords? If kumdo is based on Korean culture. They should use Korean traditional swords. Korean traditional swords are straignt and double-edged swords like Chinese ones. Koreans had preferentially used Chinese things because of sinocentrism. In fact, Haidong is not a historical existence. It was started recently. Asian people know that.
centraltheorem2076 1 year ago 4
@centraltheorem2076
oh my gosh, are you serious?? both China and Korea have MANY types of swords -- some are straight; some are curved: some are double-edged; some are single-edged.
shadow01f 1 year ago
@centraltheorem2076 Well, even during chosun period Korean did have Japanese sword because of its superiority. And Koreans also did have double edged sword well as single edged blade. Anyway, Haedong kumdo was created late 70's based under japanese sword art.
cspark809 3 weeks ago
very good!
i also do haidong Gumdo (:
i train here in La.
DamnitJ00 1 year ago
People are still arguing about this? Both the Kendo and Haidong Gumdo nuthuggers are guilty of ignorance. Neither arts were copied from each other. Haidong Gumdo was systemized by Kim Jeong-ho in the early 1980's, when it branched off from Gichunmun. He took elements of Gichunmun (which is actually a derivative of Shandong Province's Mantis style), namely stances and kinetic linking, and intergrated them with Kim Chang-sik's Shimgumdo.
People - Kendo and Haidong Gumdo are not the same.
slamurai 2 years ago 2
all this are letters jaja
RamDelReinoDeDios 2 years ago
Japanese are spreading lies that Koreans copied Japanese style.
Chinese & Korean styles are focused to fight SEVERAL enemies in surrounding environment.
Japanese style is more focused on ONE on ONE.
Basic strategies of Korean & Japanese are DIFFERENT.
Europeans don't accuse other Europeans of copying their style of fencing, archery, etc.
Even the Chinese DON'T accuse Koreans of copying their style.
Only Japanese accuse Koreans of copying their style.
Chinese > Japanese
KimInLosAngeles 2 years ago
this martial art is from the mountains of korea
mominaporongon 2 years ago
@KimInLosAngeles SOO TRUE! fuck you japs! i just wanna point out last years world series championship between korea and japan too. FUCK that pitcher yarvish from the japanese team! the rest of those fuckers who hide under his mini-skirt suckin his and doin a bukkake orgy in there you can't keep yarvish doin your dirty work for you, you dolphin killing fucks! suck on my rice ball BITCHES :D
jasonlee0290 1 year ago
@jasonlee0290
There is a law of action & reaction in the universe,
so I hope the Japanese to get some kind of reprisal as the result of countless lies they spread via internet.
Japanese made an English website that claims that all the Japanese soldiers who committed Nanjing/Nanking Massacre were actually Koreans who were drafted by Japanese army.
Japanese are the most audacious liars in the history of human race.
Anyway, I wish you a beautiful weekend.
KimInLosAngeles 1 year ago
Gosling3, have you nothing better to do than try and putdown Haidong Gumdo. This is the third video I found with you bringing on your Diarrhoea of the mouth comments. I should also like to point out that Haidong Gumdo is not Kendo or even Kumdo. and to those out there who say Haidong Gumdo is a fake art, all I can say is where is your proof? Seriously, give me a newspaper article, a court record not just your word on it.
telku 2 years ago
look this martial art is unknow from some people, this martial art is not a fake im practicing this martial art, this art is from the mountains of korea.
mominaporongon 2 years ago
You do not know what you are talking about. Visit a good Haedong Kumdo dojang - then You see how we really train. We, by the way, know about kendo: kendo and iaido members has visited in our trainings - and found HK very interesting art... I find your comments typical "japanese admirers" comments. And: do not speak about GOOD BEHAVIOR: calling something "crap" or "complete cheating" is not actually showing good behavior. Your sensei should teach You more about that... have a nice day.
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
no matter how they really train hard, FAKE IS FAKE. It is the total insults to Japanese kendo rooted way back in Samurai time....almost 1000yrs back. You are talking about behavior Sensei, alright then, how do you explain your insults toword Japanese traditional martial art by playing FAKE Kendo?
Gosling3 2 years ago
vayrynenfi Just see Kumdo Propaganda YT posts. Even Korean admit Kumdo is FAKE. What kind of swording involving flashy jump cut? These actions are came from Samurai movies and some crap Chinese Kangfu actions. WAKE UP! This is NOT THE ART!! KID's Play!!!!!
Gosling3 2 years ago 2
it´s wear u know? i thought that japanese phylosophy & SAMURAI way was about respect, honor & tolerance... japan, china & korea had been influenced between them since years ago & yes HG & HK both are moderm martial arts and? is there a problem? but that doesn´t mean that is a completly fake or "game" first if you´re a good kendo student, RESPECT!, i know this isn´t ur martial art but u don´t have to insult others! if u want to ask something do it but in an peaceful or tolerant way please
babosh4a 2 years ago
Insult is copy very spiritual part of Kendo by claiming different. Why call Kumgo while all others naitons call Kendo. RESPECT original is proper manner. Kendo is all about traditions and kata, there are absolutely no tollerance on with changing traditions on such things. Norrow minded? How do you explain to those who practiced Kendo for his entire life and yet you have fake one in Korea?
radiowave433 2 years ago
this art is real asshole! and is from korea not from china or japan
mominaporongon 2 years ago
they arnt doing the proper chacums
rmullen201079 2 years ago
Yes they are, proper chagkums. They are members of UWHKF not WHGF. In our federation, chagkums are these. Probably You are member of different federation . Have a nice day, from Haedong Kumdo 3rd dan.
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
oh okay
rmullen201079 2 years ago
so, these forms are not great at all.
the stances are stiff and not low.
i just had to be honest.
s3ts 2 years ago
Do you expect green belts to perform like higher belts ?? After six or so months of training, do You expect master-level performance? Have You ever been beginner...:-) ? Do You remember your own stances and your of stiffness? LOL
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
I've trained only for 3 months. And yet, if my master saw me holding those kind of stances, he would've disciplined me harshly.
I remember half of the sessions were dealt with holding stances, moreso than blindly doing forms.
s3ts 2 years ago
Well,
thanks for teaching us about these things. I just wait to hear Your opinions after 6 months training...:-) GREAT!!
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
Hello I am a black belt in this martial art. The practice of gumdo is a rich and deep experience which teaches us the beauty and fragility of life and the indomitable spirit of the warrior. most of the forms up until black belt are designed to train the student how to wield the sword in ancient battlefield mindset. Yes this martial art is nothing like kendo(also a wonderful warrior tradition) but it is a very valid and wonderful method of sword training...may you all find your bliss.
sporgnar 2 years ago
Very well said. I am HK instructor, and actually i have been instructing these students who perform in this demo/video. It is good that persons from HK/HG society says what this martial art is all about. It is certainly NOT kendo - it is very complicated and logical way of how to use sword - and how to live right way. All the best from HK 3rd dan.
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
Is it a martial art? or sword play. I think HK/HG never been used in battle. In fact, Korean never have such swordmanship.
BTW, if this is not Kendo, why they use term DAN?
Gosling3 2 years ago
I do not have time and interested to communicate with such narrow minded person like you. You cant even see that your art, Kendo, has nothing to do with battlefield fighting. It is not any traditional Kenjutsu-ryu. It is just modern competition sport. Very nice as sportsplay, but actually NOTHING to do with sword fighting. Secundarily, You obviously know nothing about HK - among many other things You obviously know nothing about. Have a great day and have a nice life! :-)
vayrynenfi 2 years ago
It is a martial art based on one vs many (not one vs one like kendo) also is completly different to kendo because HG and HK give more importance to the forms (katas in japanese) and kendo is focus in combat... about "DAN", there are many words that mean the same and are writen equal in japanese and korean like "DO" gumDO, taekwonDO, kenDO, aikiDO and the meaning is the same "way" or another similar is "dojang" or "dojo" in japanese ^^
babosh4a 2 years ago
You have COMPLETE misunderstandings. Kendo is all about Kata. If you hit opponent without kata, hit isn't effective. And in Japan, it call DO(道）too. DAN, wear, words, all copied Japanese one. And this thing is originated in mid 20th century. It is not completely different, but it is 90% copy of Kento, I would say.
radiowave433 2 years ago
Haedong Kumdo is NOT kendo. It is much more. Black belts practise with real sword, it is not game. Many people seem to misundertand and think that we have something to do with Kendo. No, we have nothing to do with kendo. If You (Gosling3) are martial artist, Your teacher obviously did not reming You about importance if good behavior. Judging something as "shit" tells alot about person. Advanced personalities does not need such expressions... Think about that, and talk with You sensei.
vayrynenfi 3 years ago
Nothing to do with Kendo...then stop wearing kendo wear, stop use Kendo swords, and stop use same words like DAN classification. And Blackbelts are for Judo and Karate only. Not on Korean and Chinese martial arts.
Gosling3 2 years ago
As I am a Kendo player myself. Importance of behavior means not stealing from someone and claim it as if it belong to you. That's bottom line of good behavior. Kendo organization never claimed this copy crap...I think they should.
Gosling3 2 years ago
Did anyone suggest they should use same cloth and same stick to make it similar? And to make it bit difference by adding chiild play like swings from anime actions? Japanese Kendo is not like this child play.
Gosling3 3 years ago
Just because someone is doing things differently than in Japan doesnt make it wrong - just different.
Just choose yourself favorite martial art and practice it until you drop - whining about what is the best / most effective / "right" or whatever martial art is the most childish thing there is.
Surely you will post us some great kendo kata of your own?
iivaril 3 years ago
In sports kendo, there aren't what you probaliry mean kata. It all how you win your match. That's maybe something different from this shit.
Gosling3 3 years ago
Though id love to start a debate with you, ill will not. It would degenerate down into meaningless simple minded flame-trolling war and youd win me by experience.
iivaril 3 years ago
As much as I personally dislike kendo and see it as an impractical sword style, it's above Kumdo in its legitimacy.
Kumdo was and still is a complete fabrication developed in the 1980's by someone meditating on a sword and not training with it. Which explains the poor technique.
/watch?v=hG6tqGGZW8Y Learn and enjoy.
TomNortherner 2 years ago
Meditations are root of this, what they call "worrier swordmanship"....I knew founder made HK with this way...but hey, sorry, I completely miss the point.. How one can make swording by meditation?
And why they should use Kendo wear and Kendo-like sword (shinai, or bokuto) and classification call DAN? I think this is COMPLETE CHEATING on someone who do not know Kendo and its tradition.
Gosling3 2 years ago
these movements are TOTALLY different from Japanese kendo.
Gosling3 3 years ago
Did anyone suggest they should be the same?
XoNMan1 3 years ago
Actually, these are very well made forms according to their level. Did You realize that they was just green belts when this video was recorded (2nd colored belt in Haedong Kumdo, after white and yellow)? If You have nothing productive to say, just shut up and go to "do it better" yourself. Obviously You are not high level martial artist, if You would be- You would not write such stupid comment.Martial art training is also to cultivate personality, if thats missing... good luck.
vayrynenfi 3 years ago 2
dude the3se are noobs.we can do it better.thay move like gay!!!!!!!!!
ackecaforg 3 years ago
anybody and their mother can talk a good game online... if you're a true martial artist my friend, then by all means prove us wrong ackecaforg....
martial arts is not about doing something better, its about self improvement and humility...
chitownazn90 3 years ago 2
encore^^
appleseed101 3 years ago