Baguazhang Jiulong: Applications and Training: Dragon's Gate Stepping Pattern

[phil7514]

very nice, did you come up with the 9 post and the swinging post dummies? also it would be cool to see a vid of you doing the actual form as a reference for me to see. very fluid and well done.

[XinFuGompa]

@phil7514

The 9 Posts and dummies are set up at the Gompa, Dr, John Painter's Texas Internal arts training facility.

As far as a form goes, Jiulong Baguazhang doesn't train any forms. The training progression on the video is an example of the types of training we do to develop the ability to act spontaneously under adverse conditions.  Everything you watch me do is unrehearsed.

Thanks for watching,

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[NdeTsetSoye]

That was cool, you made that look real easy. Just WOW.



[MrWozza99]

How would I go about making one of those one-armed dummies?

[XinFuGompa]

@MrWozza99

The ones I've used over the years have all been home-made. A few weights on the bottom of an upright pole. An arm can be attached with various couplings, bungees cords, or springs. PVC poles are very useful. Mostly it is an exercise in creativity! I wander around the hardware store and see what sparks an idea. Have fun with it!

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[Seishiro84]

I've been studying Xing YI theoretically and sporadically practicing it for about 5 years now, then theoretically observing and watching Bagua. I can't help but notice an amalgam of the two in Wing Chun.

Thanks for these great videos.

I'm also a practitioner of Koryu Kenjutsu.

[dgaflord]

GOD, I love this stuff. I've been doing Aikido, but at some point, I'm definately learning some of this.

[congi]

Nice to see people dedicated to Bagua

[XinFuGompa]

@congi,

Thank you. But you should see my teacher, Dr. John Painter!

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[8palmsofpower]

Beautiful, absolutely beautiful. Fantastic posture, smooth, internal. Congratualtions on your attainment. I havn't seen anything I don't like from Nine Dragons Bagua.

[Fishpigg]

Hi where can I get one of those 1 armed dummys ?

[XinFuGompa]

@Fishpigg

That One-Armed Dummy was home-made by my teacher, Dr. John Painter, many years ago. He calls it "Gort." It has gone through several repairs over the years!

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[bagchun]

very nice,

[solnegrolunaroja]

You have a correct understanding of the way the body moves and transmit force. Many great and useful martial arts look similar when a martial artist has evolved to a level that's beyond pure mechanics. I've seen very similar movements in Aikido, Serak Silat, Pekiti Tirsia Kali, kempo, muay thai... one don't see styles anymore, one sees energy moving. Thanks for sharing.

[XinFuGompa]

@solnegrolunaroja,

Thank you.

We are taught, "The mind commands, the body responds, and the enregy manifests."

Best regards,

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[Breeegz]

First glance at Jiulong Baguazhang, the first part looked like Tai Chi and it wasn't until the later part where I began to see the application. Looks effective.

[SibirianBlue]

2:48 is incredible.

[piaten]

Yeah! Simplicity rules, and decent power too. A lot of self appointed BGZ "authorities" could learn a thing or two about applications from this. Such as keeping it direct and simple, and especially that BGZ is NOT the art of turning your back to your opponent, nor primarily grappling/jointlocking your opponent or the like. Just knock the mofo right out! I would love to see a video where your partner uses a bit more variation and speed though, and really tries to give you a hard time!!

[XinFuGompa]

@piaten,

Thank you. I am workiing on other videos, so check the channel periodically and you may get to see some of our spontaneous work.

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[ioriorioriorio]

You need to come to waterbury connecticut, and get rid of all the wanna be rednecks and thugs...I'll pay you

[emanresu81]

And the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor goes to....

The Guy Who Wears the Jacket

Yaaayy !!!

[newjackshit]

Hi Yancy, thanks for posting the great videos. Do you offer free alignments to your students after you toss them about;) Have a great weekend walking with Dr Painter. Wish I could make it. Keep me in the loop, one of these days it will work for me!

Michael

[zeddicus12]

Awesome, can we play tether ball next?

[piaten]

@MrAlienlovechild That Ueshiba/Bagua story is a recent creation of the famous Bruce K Frantzis. There's no evidence to support such a claim, and it was never heard of until Bruce included his hypothesis in his book on internal MAs. While Ueshiba COULD have seen bagua and other arts in China, it must be noted that Bagua and Aikido are not really that similar, especially when it comes to health, strength and power generating principles.

[FredoFreedom]

@piaten I agree, I just don't see why a chinese Bagua person would teach a Japanese person while China was being attack by the Japanese. Not to mention it takes years of practice to even get to certain stages before a teacher will then teach more. I think what Ueshiba practiced, the Shinto religion, practices like misogi, have been underestimated. That being said I have practiced both and the stepping is very similiar, yet it is Bagua circle walking which really trains this and more.

[blacksilkblacksilk]

Wow ! Thumbs up * * * * *

That is a lot of valuable information you present here.

Also you have a very nice training surrounding.

Thank you.

Take care and have a nice day

silk

[XinFuGompa]

@blacksilkblacksilk

Thank you, Silk! The training area with the posts and equipment is at Dr. Painter's Gompa training hall in Arlington, TX. It is a martial arts' mecca! The partner scenes are all recorded close to the Saskatoon training hall.

Regards,

Yancy

[Ice104]

I LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! It shows realistic and effective application of baguazhang technique - the only video i've seen that seems to do this so well! XD

[devlin76]

Great videa and description. Thanks for sharing.

[KCMO2NDTWIN]

Great vid! The stepping looks fine to me, mud step is great for training and possibly combat?! lol Thank you again!

[alopda1]

Finally, bagua that looks like bagua and not kick boxing, great video.

[Sjnjerak]

I love these applications, it is the first youtube clip I've seen that actually resemble of the Yin Style Bagua we practice at my club. Thanks for the upload!

[mredhawk]

his walking is wrong. Not the pattern in which he is walking but his feet. Bagua you have to lead with the toes or the ball of your foot not the heel.

[XinFuGompa]

Dear Mredhawk,

Great eye! It has been clearly established in other forums that various stepping techniques exist, even in generic baguazhang. In Jiulong Baguazhang, the step I am using above, which you noticed, is called the Strolling Immortal Step. It is our most basic and most functional stepping method. We lift our toes high, touchdown with the heel first and roll through the foot during the step.

Thanks,

Dr. Yancy Orchard

[thegompa]

Dear Mredhawk,

This is one of over a number of walking patterns used in Nine Dragon Baguazhang it is called the Strolling Immortal step. The step you mention is the mud treading or sliding step or serpent step. Nine Dragon Bagua uses a sliding step also but as a way to build strength in the Psoas muscles not for combat. The sliding step, used in tournament display is very impractical for actual fighting on uneven surfaces.

Thanks

John Painter

[thegompa]

I am very proud of Dr. Orchards accomplishments in Jiulong Baguazhang. This is a very nice example of some of our training methods using mostly linear concepts for single opponents. With multiple opponents more circles and circle walking are employed. Great work Shizi Orchard.

John P. Painter

[madogblue]

Great, slo mo, please post more!

[SecretsOfLongevity]

Fantastic video. I love all the slow-motion repeats too.