Hst Intercity 125

[jblsound13]

HST's are just amazing, they revolutionized the railway industry!

[toyojiokada]

イギリスの高速ディーゼル特急の代名詞ですね。

[Reorte]

The last new thing introduced to British railways that was worth having (and anyone who thinks that they need anything faster needs to reorganise their life and stop rushing about as much!) Every train I seem to catch these days either seems to be a bus that must've turned the wrong way at a level crossing and decided to stay on the tracks, a Voyager (shudder) or a Pendolino (spit). Once new stuff was actually an improvement.

[Inkyminkyzizwoz]

@Reorte I've been on the Pendolinos plenty of times and I have no problem with them!

[Reorte]

@Inkyminkyzizwoz I find them undersized, seats too crowded in into an already-cramped interior (less space available due to the tilting, for starters), even EMUs are noisier than loco-hauled trains (although nowhere near as bad as DMUs), and the tilting, over-heating, and small windows make me feel ill. I was amazed at the comfortable, spacious luxury of an old second-class Mk1 carriage on a preserved railway recently - looks a bit tattier but far nicer to be in (until it crashes).

[TOURNEOMAN]

Still in operation since the 70's - Say no more! Top Trains!!



[paulhunter123]

the concorde of trains

[paulhunter123]

i think these trains are still in service

[disneyrangerblue02]

So, this is the diesel-electric engine Christopher Awdry used for Pip & Emma? Awesome!

[uhegbu]

So there was a London Kings Cross-Hull in the past and in 2000, it was set up by Hull Trains.

[davidsan01]

MTU?

[mrgrahamhearn]

@davidsan01 new power units that replace the iconic screaming valenta fitted in 2005 i think

[thehoff1982]

mega fan of deltics - but the hst was my favourite train as a child! love both but the hst seems to be overlooked. at least if they preserve a few they won't all be painted in green or blood and custard like every fucking thing else on every preserved line in the country! i'm a child of the 80's, try aiming several liveries at my generation, we didn't all grow up in the 1940's!!!

[2002And]

Nice footage and very interesting video overall :)

[benowahoo]

Nice vid!

[KBNASTAT92]

When I was a very small boy, my grandad and myself used to go to our local station (on the WCML) just to watch the trains go past. I can still recall the sound of the Paxman Valenta to this day. Standing just behind the line on the platform about 3 feet from the edge of the track while the HST was coming towards us at 100mph was quite something... I miss them alot. On the WCML they have been replaced by the Voyagers, Pendolinos and the Class 91s still run.

[thehoff1982]

@KBNASTAT92 class 91's on the wcml? do you mean class 90's or do you mean the ecml?

[KBNASTAT92]

@thehoff1982 Definitely class 91s. I know they are mainly East Coast trains, but they run from London Kingscross to Glasgow eventually. They stay on the ECML until Edinburgh, then they head southwest from Edinburgh and join the WCML at the Carstairs junction. (Carstairs is where the lines come back together, trains from Carlisle meet trains from Edinburgh and then they both head to Glasgow from there)

[thehoff1982]

@KBNASTAT92 i didn't know that - thanks for the info.

[mikeycbd]

just gotta love these trains!

[BenTrainFan]

good video

[bricktop11]

Great video and a look back into history, the class Inter City 125 was one of the best modern traction ever introduced in my opinon 

[toonmag50]

Middlesbrough "covered by 125"s" -the voice over is having a laugh-the smoggies aren"t even on the main east coast line

[wluka]

That's awesome. There was some Inter-City branded carriages in Cardiff Central railway station recently. In fact I see them quite frequently there... :)

[Glenn1967ful]

These trains revolutionised Inter City travel, reducing London to Newcastle journey times by 50 minutes and replacing non standard and not always reliable diesel hydraulics in the Western Region.

[ShaurntheSheep]

i can't see anything being better than the HST

[Nizical99]

Loving the horn at 2:44

[Nizical99]

loving the horn @ 1:44

[tonyphillips1984]

he says oct 1977 it was 1976 on the western region 1978 kings cross and st pancras 1981/2

[ChayD]

Nothing beat the noise of a Paxman Valenta powering the train out of a station, all these modern environmentally friendly MTU diesels are too 'polite' IMHO.

[wattass7]

@ChayD erm a deltic maybe, theres no better engine noise than a blood curdling howl of a deltic

[Markjuk]

Glad the Government has cancelled the 125 replacement for the time being. Means we get to keep these legends on our railways for a while longer!

[Jver10]

A "boofay"! Nice! (1:55)

[WHISTLEHEADtheTRAINZ]

They never looked better than in their original livery. It made them look longer, sleeker and more modern than all of the new liveries do.

[pendolinokriscfc]

@WHISTLEHEADtheTRAINZ

I agree, the old blue gray and yellow really suited the HST. Would be great if Virgin or FGW would repaint one for the 35th anniversary of the first HSTs next year.

[newforestroadwarrior]

I drew a picture of an Inter-City 125 many years ago, after a spotting trip to Preston.

It wasn't a very good picture, as I was only 7 or 8 years old at the time, and not much of an artist. However, my mother sent it (with a covering letter) to British Rail's public relations department.

About 10 days later we received a written response, signed personally by the late Sir Peter Parker (then the chairman of British Railways). How many CEO's today would answer such a letter? I suspect none.

[clusterfak]

@newforestroadwarrior I would love to see that picture! Do you still have it?

[e404av]

very very good

[justandy333]

4hrs 43 mins from London to Edinburgh! Thats rivalling a jet airliner if you include check in and baggage collection. And that was 30years ago therabouts.

You gotta love train travel.

[myrnaloysboy]

Makes me proud to be British - when we made our own trains in our own country! Unlike today. Shame on the Labour Government.

[kentarojapan]

Still in service but in different color, right? I like this model whose headlights are in the glass case. :P

Thank you so much for your kind reply. I'll surely try to go seeing them soon!

[kentarojapan]

Thank you for posting. I'm from Tokyo, Japan.

When I was a little boy, my grandpa bought me a picture book named "Dream trains of the world", and HST125 (this model) was exactly the first train I fell in love with. :)

I'll visit London soon. Could someone kindly tell me if this train is still in service or not?

Thank you.

[duffman82]

yep still in service with first great western, East coast and east midlands trains

[benjie131]

@duffman82 and Grand Central

[Thunderchief35]

Superb clip5859. Thanks for posting.

[stepheng1483]

A triumph of British train building. 125s are whisper quiet and silky smooth when pulling away and stopping.

Britain should design and build some new main line trains.

[Moss235]

Exactly we rely on foreign imports far too often, the HST and a lot of DMU's were built by british engineers, no surprise that they cant find replacements

[D335Media]

Does anyone know if you can get this video in DVD form?

[ITW84]

I think without fear of contradiction that you can easily say that, like Concorde and the Titanic the HST's Have a soul.

which means when the final HST leaves regular service in the next few years a lot of people will feel the same loss as when the Titanic sank and when Concorde Crashed otside of paris and then a few years later retired.

these things are legends BUT because of money and speed demands NR want to electrify everything

[2obsessivecompulsive]

These trains still look fresh today,that testament as to how well they were designed in the first place.I've never even had the experience of being a passenger on one of these though!!

[waldenhouse]

Completely and utterley ruined now by overhead catenary wires all over the Country! Can't get a decent picture or video anymore.

[Wolfie123123]

Can on the MML, no wires, and some of the power cars still have valentas

[matthew376]

@waldenhouse I agree the third rail is so much more discreet

[Hampuppy999]

there is also london to penzance and londo to cardiff via bristol. but if you are video on london to cardiff be quick as they are electrfiing it soon

[scousebastard]

@waldenhouse Try sexual intercourse, it may give you similair thrill.

[rodjames98]

Hear Hear toonmag 50!

[611unterscharfuhrer]

CLASS 55 RULES YOU SUCKERS

[bordercollies10]

You could hear the valenta engines back then :)

[papermariob]

These were 10 Years ahead of there time...

It will beso sad when the last one is gone.

[TheBritishLegions]

are any going to be preserved on any heritage line?

if so get them in original blue!

[flanneryged]

Love them or hate them!!.These Trains saved the Rail Passenger Train in this Country.Mags Hatchet hated the Railways

and she was just looking for an excuse to close the lot down.However the HSTs were that successful and profit generating she never got the excuse over the subsidies she and her right wing accolites truly needed.This is thanks to the wonderful 125s which were desinged for next to nothing.Also they were by far "the" hardest driven Diesel engines operating anywhere in the Wolrld.

[toonmag50]

I ve promised myself from 1982 when thatcher destroyed the North East -that I will pay homage to her grave.....

With great tenderness and ceremony I will discreetly ......Piss all over the corpse and grave. I will wipe my hand on the side of the coffin .

If I can muster a turd then so much the better for the public experience

[Glenn1967ful]

@flanneryged

You have to admire British Rail for introducing these trains during a severe economic crisis and they revoutionised rail travel. It was a shame to see the Deltics go, but life had to move on and a journey time from London to Newcastle of 3 hours was excellent ( faster than flying when you work out the travel time to and from airports). The Inter City 125 also helped save British Rail during a period of recession and cutbacks.

[ifabbott]

I enjoyed hearing the huge V12 Paxmans with the unforgetable Napier turbochargers. I remember the drivers use to give them about 60 seconds of throttle when pulling away before lifting off. I did not enjoy hearing that they had gone on strike again, and again and again.... I dont use the train now. Great shame.

[w0033944]

Any ideas of the location between 0:42 and 0:47?

[Moss235]

It is wierd to think that these trains were once brand new

[SNAKEMAN742]

and soon they will be in the natinol railway museum

[Moss235]

Not for a good 10 years at least, this train is that good, they can't come up with a suitable replacement, believe me the MTU is just as likely to represent HST 2

[Moss235]

Also as the MTU engines get older,they will start to get louder, some of FGW's HST's are beginning to whine already, albeit not as loud as the Valenta's did

[ITW84]

i've noticed that aswell

living next to the line between weston and bristol we get a few a day and some of them are a bit whiney allready - not that i'm complaining i live the good old 125 whine

[Defn28]

Beautiful but sad that they are slowly being phased out. They sound so nice, i love them.

[RMCKIE]

I worked on these trains in 1988/89 Edinburgh to London Kings Cross and back 4 days a week in the Restaurant and Buffet cars and sometimes trolley service. It was good fun.

[Moss235]

And on monday I begin my long awaited career as a Train Manager on FGW's HST's

[Victorialine67]

Well said there mate, MTU`s are great if it wasnt for the MTU theses would be sitting in the scrap yard

[Ash928GTR]

i used to love these trains when I was a kid!

[merseyrail508124]

Good point actually... Long live the HST! :P

[1madaboutguitar]

Cool.

[1madaboutguitar]

Their thinking of getting rid of these 125 mph trains completely in a few years with a new high speed rail link where the new trains travel ummmm...125mph

[lake40]

we have the same trains like th hst's but they are called xpts here

[smiffy1071]

That's true, but the XPT though based on our HST, is a much slower train. Look for the YT video "xpt by comeng" to see the full development story.

[Reorte]

And to think that some of these were placed with those bloody awful Voyagers. I was going to say a step back, but a step back on British railways would be a vast improvement.

[merseyrail508124]

Great! Proper engines, not them MTU heaps of rubbish!

[gguru1]

Lovely footage. Hopefully we see a restored set in original livery some day. To think this was only a decade after the end of steam.

[smiffy1071]

There is another film on YT which is relevant to this story. It's the development of the Australian XPT, by comeng. Well worth a look....

[shinomoritaka]

ディーゼルで200kmだもんなぁ。

[DarkRage960]

great vid blade. probabally one of the best HST Vid i have seen

[richardwild76]

I've never seen one so clean, lol. It's funny that the HST was meant as a stop gap while they developed the APT. But while the APT flopped, the HST went on to become probably British Rail's most successful train ever.

[jimusgrimus]

The privatised railway will never have the same romance as B.R.

[BigScreenScene]

Mallard, Flying Scotsman, chocolate and cream, Pullman cars, the stopping goods train...didn't all that romance happen under a privatised railway? Weren't the railways built by private enterprise?? I was there in the 80's and no one 'ever' thought diesels would be romantic!

[jimusgrimus]

The romance you refer to is the same as 'willow on leather, spinsters walking to church, warm beer, the village green and spitfire pilot types courting well spoken middle class ladies, and steam engines puffing along a single line somewhere in Kent......a propaganda image of these islands.

[BigScreenScene]

You've got a point - that was a lot of nonesense too :-) I guess 'romance' is a subjective thing. I just think its funny that back in the 80's, when railways were at their lowest point, that we can look back now (with rail travel booming) and see it as romantic. You're not wrong - but its certainly a funny old thing.

[no1reallycaresabout]

This is an excellent video! Keep up the good work!

[no1reallycaresabout]

I like the sound of the horn of the train at 2:46.

[no1reallycaresabout]

You know, if these good tilt, and were modified to meet Federal Railroad Administration standards, they should export some these high-speed diesel trains to the U.S.A. and be used for higher-speed trains using upgraded or conventional continuously welded track.

[s2k997]

Yeah, people over here keep saying that nobody is going to develop any high speed trains other than electric locomotives in the future, but I say that is garbage. Much of the world's railways aren't electrified, especially in the developing world, vehicles like the Intercity 125 could do a world of good outside the few places "the lucky few" with fully upgraded electrifed railways. It is why I was always puzzled why the concept never really got outsourced to many places other than Australia.

[no1reallycaresabout]

I think that diesel high-speed trains are sort of a bridge solution, until enough money has been gotten hold of to electrify the line in question.

[s2k997]

Definantly on the main lines, electrification like what France has acheived is a highly benifial and realistic effort for the most part. It is a pity it has happened so slowly, in both America and Britain. But there are places electrification just won't work, like the water-prone leaky Severn Tunnel (somewhat of a major line in fact) or the stretch of the Great Western Railway between Exeter and Plymouth that runs along the coast, the waves regularly soak the lines, in both cases no choice.

[gregrudd]

@s2k997

In some ways England should be looking to increase the size of its loading guage (Preferably to AAR standards) instead of electrification. A bigger loading guage would help get freight off the roads.

[HelmutVillam]

@gregrudd

would make sense for a less developed rail system but we have 100 year old infrastructure that was designed for narrow gauge, the cost of a national replacement would be enormous, as it would include possibly thousands of bridges, tunnels, cuttings and stations.

[gregrudd]

@HelmutVillam

To get the loading gauge you could single track on selected routes and put in extra long passing loops. Remember your freights will be increasing in size to a max of 2200M and 5000+t. So density would actually be dropping. The grades would not be an issue on a designated freight only route as long as you don't go steeper than 1:45. It is interesting the amount of money NS spent on the Pocahontas division to get double stacking. I can tell you the ROI is extremely positive.

[ITW84]

great video thanks for uploading it

reminds me of watching the old blue and white and then black and grey livery 125's going past my house on the london to plymouth journey's via weston super mare

[alanjh]

:) When they were still 253s not fake "warships"

[mostlyrailways]

Is this from one of the Railscene videos? Wouldn't mind having it on DVD...

[blade5859]

It was edited from an old vhs tape but I am sure its not a Railscene I think it was called Need For Speed.

[mostlyrailways]

Thanks, it's called "Inter-City 125 - The Need for Speed" and is now published on DVD by Transport Video Publishing (TVP).

[scottishrailways]

love it! added to favs! thanks for uploading this mate:)

[blade5859]

No worries glad you enjoyed it.

[peggey08]

awsome vid 5*

[blade5859]

Cheers thx for watching.

[harrycaron]

great stuff...that clip of York is just special, used to spend hours there when I was a kid catching the Valentas in the 90s! Sadly I was born in '87 so missed out on the early days :(

[blade5859]

Cheers I have a video in progress of a hst leaving York to Newcastle filmed funny enough in 1987.

[HSTFrankin]

One of the best Diesel Trains EVER!!!

[blade5859]

Yes I agree wonder how long they will go on to..

[blade5859]

Thx again for all the great comments.

[Class37Ash]

Absoloutely Brilliant Footage 5*

[robmasterman]

Brilliant Video David, absolutely fascinating look back at these magnificent machines when new...please keep them coming..5*..and a favourite..thanks...Bob

[blade5859]

thx for comment there will be another 3 vid's in this compilation. Watch this space...

[hstman14]

Absolutely brilliant! Something very special there.

[blade5859]

Thx you can't beat the old stuff.

[TheXtremeEnthusiast]

HST's = AWESOME! great vid! thx 4 upload! :)

[blade5859]

Thx for great comment.