As for stoneing, if you speak about the bible, you should read the whole thing. Jesus took the stone from our hands. Vengence is his alone. Jesus said "i did not come to abolish my fathers law but to fullfill it". God warned us this day would come. Remember most churches turn from him. Thank God for the pasters who still speak the TRUTH.
The Bible also says that rebellious children should be put to death (stoned). If we going to go by everything the Bible says, then it's a lot of us that need to get to murdering our own children. The Bible says that slaves should obey their masters, therefore blacks rebelled against God( The Bible) during the Civil rights movements. The Bible says you shouldn't eat pork(swine). Let's be honest, most of us love pork chops. There is so much more I could say argue.
@DarkPrince1785 your comment shows that you possess an at best juvenile view of scripture application. I could say more but Im not sure you would have a mature grasp of what that would mean.
@gcmwatch Please say more. It is indeed true, if we should live by the Bible, then we should live by everything it says. I'm not saying what the Bible says is wrong. I'm just referring to the context that Pastor DL used. Since you felt the need to reply to my statement I would like to encourage you to get a King James Version Bible and find the word homosexual or homosexuality in the New Testament.
@DarkPrince1785 God addresses behavior. Regardless of the name attached to it, if the behavior falls within the context of his condemnation of it, then it remains sin. Thus, your assertion that the word homosexual doesnt appear in the KJV is moot. The bible is literal, allegorical, prophetic, historical with slices of human experience interwoven throughout. When you say that we should live by all of it, your words are right, but your motive for saying it is wrong.
@smurfboywv if you have a disobedient child and want to stone him/her based on what you think the bible says, go right ahead. Please understand that you will be arrested, tried and most likely given the death penalty by a non-religious court.
@gcmwatch Deuteronomy 21 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
@DarkPrince1785 If you feel strongly about that, go ahead. See my warning below. I dont own slaves. Hope you dont either. Im not jewish so I can eat all the pork I want. Next?
The bald head guy without glass is on his way to hell. You are a jelly back preacher and you need to be exposed. In fact if you don't tell people the truth then you will have to give a account for it.
it is mandatory to note that when Jesus came he didnt destroy any laws. so everyone who's usimevthe terms new and old testament needs to read their bible because nothing in it says that the old testament is done away with.
Good, biblically-based, respectful talk. Well moderated discussion and many good things said here. I wish more people could sit and respectfully and truthfully discuss major issues like they have done here.
Hah ha ha. So to unpack what she said she can live in fornication and God/Jesus endorses Sodomy. Add to that so long as you are comfortable with whatever you do you are ok in God's eyes because God could care God along behind our personal desires. In fact she says suggests that we can make up our own truths. I firmly believe the moderator, the woman and the brother in the blue suit all fail to understand the Bible. Nuff said.
Romans 1:24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
@Gcolorina Romans1: 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet
Respond to this video... Roman1: 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Respond to this video Romanso1:31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them
Respond to this video... Hear it clearly says in the New Testament, in Romans, that they that do such things are worthy of death, and those that take pleasure in what they do.
Wow just absolute blatant rebellion against Gods word. That's all that is from the other two self proclaimed preachers. The word of God is the word of God and the REAL preacher told it like it is beginning at 7:09 and the woman was very disrespectful as she as the preachers so eloquently explained WORK IT OUT to try to explain God working in his life.
Isaiah 5:20 WOE! to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Isaiah 52:7 7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of happiness, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, “Your God reigns.” :).. give love ...
Lamentations 3:17 17 my soul is bereft of peace; I have forgotten what happiness [1] is. Please do not forget... Happiness is for everyone and the bible speaks of it. Read your bible. God is love and love is for everyone.
@way.."Psalm 136:2 2 Give thanks to the God of gods, for his steadfast love endures forever". The bible has numerous passages of love..if u worship a "vengeful" God then that is your prerogative. I worship a loving God. You repent...my heart is clean my life is blessed and I'm highly favored. What a wonderful feeling to be happy and love. I wake-up filled with joy. No matter how the devil tries to use ppl to have me lose faith I fight in a spiritual war. I win each day as I'm winning now.
Homosexuality was excepted by MOST ancient societies on all four corners of this planet. In fact they are moving out of a 2,000 year oppression. It wasn't the gays that came in and annihilated the Native Americans, it wasn't the gays that destroyed the Roman Empire and threw us into the DARK AGES, it wasn't the gays who declared war on Africa, and enslaved its people... it was CHRISTIANS! We need to stop using these people as escape goats for religions bloody history!
Who are we to judge and say what we dont agree with? You dont have the right to say who shld be married or not... The fact is not all men like women and not all women like men. They dont have to be forced to marry the opposite sex so they can be favorful to God . God loves us just as we are. God wants everyone happy.. not just if ur heterosexual.. Love is for EVERYBODY
@MsMikko77 Where in the bible does it say God wants everyone happy? Jesus and his closest followers died horrible deaths. That was his own son. Read your bible and repent.
Respecting all different kinds of people is very important. I do not agree with the homosexuality such as the same sex marriage is totally against the Word of God. Homosexuality is a strong spirit that is hidden undercover in the church and also exploited vividly in the world. We as the church have to love that person with Christ love purely, but not agreeing with the sexual act which promotes the wrong message; especially, among this new generation today.
yes, any one can have a open heart and willingness to change, but do not force the Bible on people because it can push them away from seeing the radiant light of God's love in us.
@SSWAVE4DAVE The word is very clear that homosexuality is wrong. How does a prejudice change the fact that the Bible never suggests homosexuality is right? There is no scripture you can find that will promote homosexuality. However, there are plenty that say same sex relations are bad. Don't start talking about loving your neighbor either. Just because I love you doesn't mean I have to accept your unjust lifestyle. Many criminals have loving families so does that mean they are okay too?
It's sad that PASTORS of all people aren't even taking the word of God seriously and are continuing to live in a sinful lifestyle and making tons of excuses for it. Marriage is between a man and a woman! If homosexuality was normal and natural most of us would be homosexual and you'd be able to reproduce with the same sex and you could have normal sex with the same gender BUT your body isn't made for that because it isn't right words won't change human anatomy.
It is so crazy to believe that these two people: the woman and the man at the end really believe what they are saying. Pastor Foster is giving Word from the Bible, the other two are giving you there own beliefs. Anytime you follow your own beliefs instead of following the Word in the Bible, you have no merit to what you are saying. Follow the Word of God, it is clearly that these two at the end(Martin and whatever the other's name) are living for self to justify their way of life.
@KELVINRHARRIS But let me ask: do YOU feel your life is justified through Christ? We all do, whether straight or gay. But it's dangerous when we assume that because we are justified, people who seem really different must not be as justified. This indicates we think we've earned our justification, that God prefers people like me. We read the Bible through a lens of prejudice, thinking it favors us. We assume the Bible speaks clearly against monogamous same-sex love, when it does not.
@sswave4dave Hello how are you? You ask the question, do I feel justified in my life? I am justified through the Lord Jesus, not because I am so good, but because what He did for me on the Cross and what He did three days later. And I have choose to serve Him according to His Word. This gives me justification. The Bible clearly states that a man shouldnt lay with another man( Lev. 18:22, 20:13) A woman is meant for man. I'm not here to judge you but the Bible is truth. It can't be altered.
@KELVINRHARRIS Hey Kelvin, it's going pretty good. I was a strong believing Christian all my life until a year ago. Unfortunately, I came to discover that the Bible appears to be man-made, not endorsed by God. I know that the Bible speaks against homosexuality, but it also speaks against women, for example:
"Man didn’t have his origin from woman, but woman from man; and man wasn’t created for the sake of the woman, but the woman for the sake of the man" (1Cor 11:8-9).
"A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. (1Tim 2:11-15)
@KELVINRHARRIS Regarding those passages which abase women, it was only a matter of time before our collective moral conscience superceded the Bible and we started saying things like "well those verses must be analyzed within the cultural context of the time, they weren't meant for us today." That's just a nice way of saying that we don't regard those verses as timeless absolute truths. You say the Bible is truth and can't be altered, but do the women cover their head at your church?
@KELVINRHARRIS Did Jesus think the Bible's meaning could be altered? Of course he did, he was a religious radical. He did so in the gentlest way possible, but essentially neutralized (or as he said, "fulfilled") all the archaic blood-thirsty murderous rigid oppressive OT laws. He did not regard OT law as timeless truths, but as a tutor for the timeless truth of love. Love is what he taught, and he did not write a single word of the NT.
@KELVINRHARRIS It's a good thing Jesus believed that Biblical meaning/application could be altered, otherwise we'd still be stoning/burning people who: disagree with priests (Deut 17:12), curse/hit parents (Lev 20:9, Ex 21:15), non-virgins (Deut 22:20-21), commit adultery (Lev 20:10), don't seek the God of Israel (2 Chr 15:12-13), homosexuals (Lev 20:13), false prophets (Zech 13:3), fortune tellers (Lev 20:27), work on Saturday (Ex 31:12-15), witches (Ex 22:17), etc etc.
@KELVINRHARRIS I speculate that if Jesus came back and spoke today he'd say he's disappointed that his legacy, the legacy of a man who introduced a paradigm shift away from scriptural absolutism, was distorted into a mere transfer of scriptural absolutism from one scripture (the OT) to another scripture written decades after his death (the NT). I bet he'd say, "You totally missed the point!" and overturn the anti-gay tables, to say the least. Jesus would spend most his time with the oppressed.
@KELVINRHARRIS It's important to investigate and think deeply about what the Bible really is and isn't saying. If we don't, we're just gonna believe what people tell us. This is why something as horrific as slavery took so long to abolish, because non-thinking believers were injecting their own traditional prejudices into scripture. The Southern Baptist Church didn't even officially apologize for it's role in slavery until 1995. Beware our traditions, and our presuppositions.
The guy all the way to the right says his son came out?....isnt that the same preacher w a youtube vidoe that says he is a bi-sexual pastor?.......I agree w the other Preacher 100%..no matter your past when u come to Christ u have to DENY urself....not go to a church that affirms ur sin!
ALL sexual human nature in and of itself is unclean. God gave us marriage to protect ourself from the penalty of these urges and actions. Sex with any person outside of marriage is detestable.
Sex is carnal nature of the earth its purpose is for procreation. The urges are for the sake of procreation.
Jesus said it would be better that a man never touch a woman.
It is and has always been sex. Sex in any form is sex.
and i answered, holyness! thats the only thing going to to see jesus! not what i think, what others think,but whats writtien! Aside from that nonscense, there is trouble on the way! Rev.7:1-8, make sure you Know Jesus!
How can u be a pastor of the church, when one of the qualifications of the office of bishop is..............THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE? 2 of these pastors dont qualify! Its in the hand-book!
At 1:58 Listen To How The Lady Lies And Says That Paul Wasnt Talking About Homosexuality, By Playing With Words By Saying"THE WORD HOMOSEXUALITY DID NOT EXSIST" When Paul Clearly Said That Homosexuality Is Wrong.
@MrHead1972 The word Homosexual was actually coined in until 1869. However, as usual the bible tries to interpret as best as they can and usually it is wrong translation or loose that never fits the same. Blame revised versions of the bible, which no one has the original anyway.
@blackangel5555 Ya See?There You Go Again! In Another Vain Attempt To Dazzle People With Your Brilliance.Did I Ever Disagree With The Lady That Said That The Word (Homosexuality) Was Not In Ther Bible?<NO I Didnt. I Said That She Was Playin With Words.Becasue It Was Obvious To Me That She Was Grasping At Straws.When The Bible Says When A Man Lays With Another Man,It Describes Homosexuality. So Nevermind Your"THE BLAME REVISED VERSION OF THE BIBLE" Comment. Your History Lesson Was Unwarranted.
My comment was for those preachers who claim to beleive, but deny him. & i dont know what heaven looks like, the bible says that heaven & earth is going to pass away! But the new jeruselm will be with jesus when he returns & the streets are paved with gold! It also states that there will be earthquakes in diverse places, egypt fighting amongst each other, wicked revealing themselves=hip hop & these false prophets, & one world money, gov., eventually 1church. Gov. SHUT DOWN? time to wake up!
@33sword Government shutdown happened in 1995 and 1996. Vague "prophecies" are in the bible.Nostradamus had prophecies too.The world was predicted to end 220 times before. Fish died in the thousands in 1997 and many other dates. Japan is not diverse they are on the tatonic plates. They are just pushing this agenda of fear. Which only feed the forces they need to stay in power. They like people to panic and say this "prophecy" match with this, that is the plan push fear to feed there gods.
@blackangel5555 but the dollar was not on the verge of collapsing! Next year the dollar is headed for being worth only 25-35 cents. That opens the door for one world money that they are working on now, check it out. Televising the gov. shut down, there reading a script! MY source bout the dollar has 22yrs in washington & confirms. People who know about the money problem think its going to be like what happened in mexico, but the only thing is everything is centered arround the$.
@33sword I read a lot. Elijah Muhammed wrote about the "Fall of America" & there are other books speaking on what will happen & so on. The fact is there is no way to now for certainty unless it happens. Again, There were predictions 220 times. A lot of missed "prophecies" is omitted as well. I am so tired of hearing the "I am legend" survival tactics etc.Prepare yourself? Then do that but what feeds their forces is fear, the two different powers overhead are actually not getting along right now.
@blackangel5555 democrats & republicans run nothing. The elite run the world. They stem from the pharos. We have modern-day pharos running everything. There is no real trouble in egypt and other countries, that's just a smoke screen for the real trouble in china & russia! These elite run the worlds banking system(Federal reserve). Federal was put in front to seem like government, but its independently owned. This will b the worlds financial solution. They use a math unknown to man. Investagate
@33sword *face palm* You didn't get clarity when I said I read often,read, research & study on various subjects not just this.I never said democrats & republicans run anything as they are one party. Modern-day Pharaohs? Never. I know about central banking which was the first, Mexico and U.S billion dollar surplus deal etc. You're telling me nothing new. Reptilian shape shifters aren't always the bad ones. Again, there is abundance of information on certain forces, So, what are you going to do?
if you disagree with homosexuality why are you labeled a homophobe? i don't like a lot of stuff but that doesn't mean i'm scared of it. i just think it's wrong. why are the ones who disagree with homosexuality judged so harshly? don't want to see two men slobbering all over each other in public just as much as i don't want to see a man and a woman slobbering all over each other in public because i think it's disrespectful.
@msindymusic Remember though. "Normal" is what the majority does or is. "Normal" is a social/human conditioning governed by society and man. So, What is wrong or right or bad or good or evil is all subjective/exists in one's mind.
@33sword God has no kingdom. Only man who wrote the bible created the "kingdom". Do they have chairs in that kingdom to? How does it look there? It also says what else won't see the "kingdom".
@blackangel5555....Prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom". Come with proof and evidence before uttering words that holds no weight!
@ARonald17 What? Listen I speak ontology, so no need for me to speak opinion. Where is the proof god has a kingdom? There is none as It is logical and that is the evident. The science proof is there is no god in the sky, therefore where would his kingdom be?
@blackangel5555....I asked for the proof first so please stop with your philosophy, bring facts that there's no kingdom!!! You're understanding is new age, the understanding that God has a Kingdom has been spoken, understood, and known for generations. So please prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom" and nothing else!!!
@ARonald17 Hahaha. I gave you clear FACTS: "God" has NO tangible/empirical evidence which means he does NOT exist in turn means there is NO kingdom. I speak through Ontology, it is FACTS. Beginning as early as 250 BC, the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek by Jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt. This translation became known as the "Septuagint", meaning 70 etc. Many as 40 authors help translate but First it was William Tyndale and then King James. This is evident. This is fact.
@blackangel5555....Ok if the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek by Hebrew scholars how does it prove that there's no kingdom of God?? You're making blank statements about "clear FACTS", you have not as of yet gave a concrete fact using your Ontology information, archaeological, books or research to debunk that there's NO kingdom of God!! Now please show us your proof and evidence without YOUR philosophy of words, give us proof of an ANCIENT book or something stating your argument!
@ARonald17 (again cont...) I don't base all my understandings on things I can only see, that is part of evidence and logic to understand certain knowledge not all of it. You said science is a failure. Yet, science everything is around you. Just believe in life? is that good enough for you? To check my knowledge you must check yours first. As science is failure and religion is..then where do you go or what is your study or are you going to say nothing?
@blackangel5555....Once again still no proof or evidence that there's no kingdom!!! You are an Evolutionist I am not, you believe something totally different then what I believe. So therefore we will continue to bump heads and disapprove one anothers belief! So be happy blackangel5555.
@ARonald17 (part 3 cont) If you can so call debunk all I am saying then what show me evidence of god having a kingdom? Since you are so outside of this realm and know things you cannot and etc and science is failure, and religion is just not translated properly etc. Debunk everything I said just throw it out, go ahead cool then but now Show me your knowledge of a god and his kingdom, show me proof? and everything else then show me prove it to me?
@blackangel5555....I looked back 3 weeks past on this venue and have not seen any evidence that you posted proving that there's no kingdom of God! You base your understanding on the things you can see, but I don't base my understanding fully on things I can see. Some things that happen without an explanation in which one can not see causes that person to have doubt and confusion! cont.....
@blackangel5555.....cont....Many things go unanswered but the problem shows intelligence, meaning there's a higher power that forces one to inquire on that intelligent for the answer who happened to created or allowed the problem to occur!
@ARonald17 I speak ontology. I never said I don't "believe" in a God. Not the one Religion describes or in the bible as "God in a kingdom" and you knew what I meant. Some take it literally as it is only being imaginative or archaic. I am Gnostic Theist. I see that the most high. I don't say god and God can be anything as the term "God" is a greek word meaning power,control and anybody can be that. "God" was actually referring to beings and on top of that the most high is higher.
@blackangel5555...The Most High is what I use, the name God is what the populus use and relate to, so to be on common ground for understanding purposes I use God unless otherwise. And please don't assume that I understand things you may explain, thank you.
@ARonald17 (continued....) and Since we are debating something that you clearly knew what I meant as it being archaic and imaginative. Again, I do this all day and accept by way first empirical or tangible evidence, science, neuroscience, logic and reasoning. Those are my sources that are facts. I study and research daily as I love knowledge as this is what I do, after my fun, job etc I read. Whether or not you view the statements as a certain perception makes it complex.
@blackangel5555...This is clearly not a debate in my eyes maybe in yours. Science, neuroscience etc, is not worth the funding that it uses. Science has failed over and over again and so therefore it can not be trusted, science is finite and can only explain the space that it shares with other organisms an microbes within its enviroment. Logic is what it is, its limited to the knowledge that it obtains, it can not go no further until it gets further programing. The Most High God is INFINITE!!
@ARonald17 Science has failed and can't be trusted? LOL. Religion is the biggest failure and can never be trusted with it's reused doctrine. Again as I stated I accept things with logic, reasoning and most of all empirical and tangible evidence. Religion = NO. When a person dies there are other dimensions they can be infinite too because they transform their energy. The concept of the most high and whom or what this energy is - is subjective.
@blackangel5555....Science has failed and will continue to fail because its man made (limited). Look at your science labatories along with the side-effect factors and you tell me if science can be trusted, whether from medical to evolution the scientist are not sure and its all about a hit or miss. Yes religion is the biggest failure and can never be trusted especially when a person can not understand the truth in the source materials that's been written over the generations (records).
@ARonald17 Science was never been man made, always here and waiting to be discovered by man. Religion is total crap. I know of Hebrew and Greek and the fact that there is no original when they just found a new version already in Hebrew. Religion stems from most other cultures as I stated. I don't need religion, never have and never will.My will is my will.You don't have proof that "God" is infinite seeing you have no evidence of his existence. Proof is here Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
@blackangel5555...So why are you on this venue for??? Go to some other venue with those of same like mindsets! You are on a christian venue of those that believe the opposite of what you believe, and here you go pushing this, LOL!!
@ARonald17 >>cont again>>> Stop replying back to me unless you can debunk the evidence I stated which was clear: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF GOD THUS MEANING HE HAS NO KINGDOM. THAT is my evidence. If you don't like it or THINK IT IS NOT EVIDENCE. Stop replying back with child's play like "Still no proof" because I stated it. You still cannot proof "GOD IS INFINITE", UNLESS you can refute what I stated instead of the same quote to only state "no proof" goes nowhere. You should've been told me off.
@blackangel5555....You just want the last say and it will not happen!! I said to you first to end YOUR RANT because you have no proof, and now you're trying to tell me to stop replying back to you with "childs play" LMBO!!! For the third time end your rant otherwise I will continue to reply back to you with the same reply hoping that you will eventually end it! There is a God in the sky with a Kingdom that will come!
@ARonald17 When is he coming and where is your proof that there is a kingdom and he is coming etc? That is all I am asking. If you can answer that them I am done, If you don't answer that I guess there is no answer. I don't want the last word as that is child's play. If someone refuted what I stated then I have nothing else to say, so I don't always "attempt" to get the last say. Again, if someone refuted what I say then I couldn't respond.
@blackangel5555 Im Shocked & Jealous. But Anyway, Do You See The Question That I Asked 33sword? I Asked The Same Question In The Same Words To Kelisa36 Last Night,But When I Woke Up This Morning The Owner Of This Vid Removed It. HMMM,I Wonder Why.And Kelisa36 Has Yet To Answer Me. Just Like The People That Are Talking In This Video,The Uploader & The Beleivers In This Comment Section,None Of Them Follows The Bible.
@ARonald17 The Thing With You Beleivers In This So-called Holy Books Is That Yall Are Either DisHonest Or To Proud. You Could Have Easily Deaded This Proof Thing Blackangel5555 Is Requesting By Being Honest In Telling Her That You Have No Real Proof ,But What You Do Have Is Faith>1st Peter 1:8-9 But Instead Of Just Flat Out Admitting That You Are A Mere Prisoner Of Hope< Zechariah 9:12 Your Pride Gets In The Way. And Saying Something Is True Because It Says So In The Bible Is Not Proof,ARonald.
@ARonald17 (cont) You probably still in religion. LOL. All you are doing it trying to get me to go in a circle of non-sense. I don't stand in ignorance. Evidence both empirical and tangible are everywhere. You cannot prove God infinity cause you can't prove god exists. Yet, you take all of pieces wanting evidence when I gave it to you & it more logical than anything.LOL, You haven't proved anything to me and I told you were the proof is, yet you want me to prove something to you, I don't have to
@ARonald17 This is what I do all day, I think facts/ontology.I said there is no proof of god so there is no kingdom, that is evident. Religion= belief more than anything and I don't deal with religious people when FREE thinking. You are defending a defense. All you wanted to do was speak on "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" that is ALL you can conclude too. However, you NEVER proved to me how god can be infinite as you can't prove there is one. I am not a Evolutionist. :)
@blackangel5555....Again I asked you FIRST to give evidence of your claim that there's no kingdom of God and you have not done so as of yet, so I will not answer any of your questions until you FIRST answer mine with proof and evidence. Now enough with this back and forward going over the same ole same ole I will not respond to any more of your responses until you answer my first question. So here it is again, give evidence of your claim that there's no kingdom of God.
@blackangel5555...I would rather listen to the Ancient instead of the Modern! Prove through your evidence in written materials that "when a person dies there are other dimensions they can be infinite too because they transform their energy." (Egyptology)??
@ARonald17 Do you know what empirical evidence is? I gave clear evidence, there is no god in the sky as you cannot see it, touch it, or observe thus he has no kingdom. That is the evidence & you choose to "omit" it. LMAO. Oh let me guess you are going to "quote" what I say again to only state prove it? You cannot prove god exists let alone he is infinite. Child's play? as "If you won't tell me, I won't tell you". If you say my evidence is none then refute it.
@blackangel5555...LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you still talking?? I chose not to hear your ideology just answer the question with nothing more or simply put an end to your rant, here's the question again>> "Prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom" Cut and paste it with the reference number, author etc!
@ARonald17 Hahahaha: I gave you evidence that you are being ignorant of. God does not exist and thus there is no kingdom. That is evidence. The Negro Christian Codes of 1724 really beat it in you. The only god exists are the ones on earth. god is a greek word meaning control/power, anyone can be a god. Evidence is this: GOD DOES NOT EXIST THUS MEANING HE CANNOT HAVE A KINGDOM. Proof stems from EVIDENCE. There is no tangible or empirical evidence. It is you "belief" that he does... cont>>
@ARonald17 LMAO. I see the Negro Christian Codes of 1724 has mentally enslaved you, where you grasp clarity of simple logical evidence.You are just Being arrogant about your ignorance, when I gave you evidence there is NO god thus NO kingdom, you can't observe it, this is evidence, just proved it. This is what I do, study and science panel. I just gave you EVIDENCE of said. "God is infinite" as there is no evidence of him.. you can't supply EVIDENCE for that so you want to act like I didn't? LOL
@ARonald17 cont >>> I do this daily on my panel, you don't get that? ....YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT GOD IS INFINITE? LMAO....HAHAHA. Please I insist...you keep stating something clearly refuted. All you do is "quote" just doing child'd play if you really wanted to refute what I have just stated you would have already but NO EVIDENCE of your "INFINITE GOD". You already know once you state "GOD IS INFINITE" that I real refute it so all you keep doing is ignoring my EVIDENCE, quote me. Be Mature.
@ARonald17 cont>>> Then it is solely on belief. There is no evidence of a god existing thus meaning that he does not. Again it is just a greek word meaning power. Those on earth can be god etc. Now, referring to "The most high" is a different. But god? does not and the proof is in the evidence and the evidence is none. I just told you very clearly that there is no empirical/tangible evidence of a god above the sky if there is no god then there is no kingdom. Take it or leave it, I gave evidence.
@ARonald17 (Continued...) I replied with facts & Again, I gave a fact that there is NO god so in turn there is No kingdom. Only dimensions.You cannot disapprove what I stated this only supplies more evidence of what I stated. As this is what I do study, research and accept by empirical/tangible evidence. I speak through ontology,I do this ALL day. If you cannot see clearly, you are just ignoring it.
@ARonald17 I asked for the proof first so please stop with your philosophy, bring facts that there's no Trident!!! You're understanding is new age, the understanding that Poseidon has a Trident has been spoken, understood, and known for generations. So please prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "Poseidon has no Trident and that its only man who wrote the Clay Tablets who created the Trident" and nothing else!!!
@sswave4dave No offense, but this is the agenda that's being pushed! There has never been a woman head of anything in the bible! Prophesying & preaching is 2 diff things! Nor has there ever been a woman who's with another woman who leads anything! Contrary to beleif, satan has introduced his plan through media, music, etc. He premotes the idea of independent woman to the extent that women dont know what they want! The head of another woman, or a real relationship(m&W)! Its mo like demons!
@ARonald17 (continued...) You are boosting on a god that you cannot prove so in turn you cannot prove what he has or doesn't. Therefore it is obscure whom or what this god has as you have not or have no proof of his existence let alone his belongings. To belief is one thing but to know as factual is another. As I speak though ontology and facts are my study, to understand and seek evidence before accepting. Get knowledge of it.
@ARonald17 (continued again...) If one must conclude to a kingdom. Then you must describe it. If there is a kingdom of god then this god must have a queen or king etc The list goes on. If it is symbolic that would be understandable but still illogical because you have to prove god exists first to prove a kingdom or what type. This is more logic here. Symbolic would be more fit, but if people describe it as a kingdom it goes back to the original of "god" being: beings on earth not one in the sky.
@33sword Im Asumming That You Beleive Homosexuality Is Wrong Because Its A Sin.(But Correct Me If Im Wrong In My Assumption)But I Have A Question. Will You Be Without Sin Upon Your Death?
@MrHead1972 The instructions are to be washed in the blood of jesus(baptism), repent of your sins, crucify the flesh daily! Not justify sin & keep doing the same sin over & over. We are to walk in spirit not in the flesh! Thats why the holy ghost is necessary! 2 of these pastors are clearly walking in the flesh, more worried bout the flesh than hollyness. Hollyness is the only thing going in the kingdom. U got the scriptures. My question, regardless of wateva sin, WHAT IN "HELL" DO WE WANT?
@MrHead1972 Answer , all flesh has sin! We have to repent & mean it, not repent & do the same sin. It comes down to how much we love the lord jesus, versus how much we love the world. Alot of us claim to love the lord jesus, but in works we deny him. Thats not love! All things are possible through christ jesus! Even dying holy. This is possible by walking in the spirit, full of the holy ghost, and not walking in the flesh. No matter how we try to justify sin, only holyness will see Jesus.
@33sword All This Flesh Talk Is Making Me Hungry,Its A Simple Question,I Asked U,"Will You Be Without Sin Upon Your Death? But Instead Of Answering It You Reply With Talk Of Flesh,Pastors,Crucifying,All Flesh Etc Etc. Your Talkin About We & Us We Do This And We Need To Do That,Im Not Talking 2 All Flesh,Im Talking To U.Im Not Talking 2 Us,Im Talking To U,Im Not Talking 2 We,Im Talking 2 U.But I Must Admitt That U Are Wise In Avoiding That Question.WILL YOU BE WITHOUT SIN UPON YOUR DEATH? SIMPLE!
@33sword What About A Yes Or A No? I Already Know Why You Wont Answer. I Know Why You Started Talking About Flesh,All Flesh,Pastors,Crucifying,Us,We, Justifying Sin,Hollyness,The Kingdom Etc Etc. And Its Because You Know That If You Were To Answer That Question With A Yes Or A No,That Either Answer Would Condemn You And Make Your Statements About Homosexuality As Sin Null & Void. So Like I Said,You Were Wise Not To Answer. But Let Me Try Again. WILL YOU BE WITHOUT SIN UPON YOUR DEATH?
@MrHead1972 Again, if anyone justifies living in sin, rewording the instructions, not following the instructions, TELL HELL I AINT COMING! If i, if we, if u follow the instructions=holyness, that will see jesus. I'M GOING TO SEE JESUS!
@33sword Yeap! Like I Said, Your Wise In Avoiding The Question.SMART! Not Honest, But Smart. So Nevermind,I Got My Answer In Your No Answer.I've Posed That Question A Countless Amount Of Times,Here & There,And Sofar I've Only Got About 5 People Who Were Honest In Answering.Your Not 1 Of Them Though,Your Wiser Than Them,Not At All Honest As Them As A Matter Of Fact Your Not Honest At All,Only Wise 2 Save Face.Answering That Question Would Hurt Would'nt It?<Rhetorical Question No Answer Required.
it is interesting how we humans rationalize sin. It is also frightening that these two individuals are ministers. Complete rationalization and bending/twisting of the Word. There is a point in which our opinions become idols. At this point feelings and beliefs that are contrary to the unchanging Word of God are bowed down to. Reprobate minds.....
"God did not create man to be with man as man should be with a woman! If everyone on the planet were gay then would the human race dwindle away-for two same sexes cannot produce a child!"
life that God wants for us. Sin is Sin and I am no one to judge, but let the WORD of God spoken in TRUTH not deceit divide the good and bad. The Devil is a liar and the prince of the powers of the air, blinding men and women to believe lies and embrace false teachings...even blinding "so called" pastors ... Jesus help us.
However, if we are born this way, it does not give us a RIGHT to embrace it. If it were that way, we would need to open all the prisons and correctional facilities to release all the inmates who acted on their TENDENCIES! We need to learn to CONTROL our tendencies and do it before it destroys us. God won't put something on His children too heavy to carry. He is the way out! Jesus is the door to the
@booboohead76 Homosexuals are not born gay. It is learned behavior. Lying psychologists made conclusions that homosexuals are born that way. When have you heard of a gay man born with a vagina and their sex chromosomes are XX? Or a woman born with a penis and their sex chromosomes are XY? NEVER!!! People who change their sex homonally and surgically still have the same sex chromosomes they are born with. Sex-reassigned males still have XY chromosomes & females still have XX chromosomes.
@Kalisa36, of course people are born gay, because that's the way God wants them to be. Some people He creates black, some gay, some with green eyes, etc. You are embarrassingly uneducated about homosexuality and gender reassignment issues, but fear not. If you can pull the planks out of your eyes and turn away from Satan's influence over your soul, truth and education are out there. God loves they gays, don't whine and rant about His creating them. He's never going to stop, just to appease you.
@MattFrame My child ,you are definitely a reprobate or going to become one. You need to be deliverd from homosexuality. It is not a creation of God. God wants us to procreate in the normal way. Sex is beautiful when it is designed by God. Your way is the way to destruction. Something went wrong with homosexuals and Yeshua is the only one who can fix it. Please pray and fast for your deliverance. You should love women and not have sex with another man. That is nasty.
"Your way is the way to destruction. "--Corduroy66
Well, I'm a married, heterosexual man with two kids of my own procreation, who puts God & His will over man & His agenda. Curious how you deem heterosexuality & a love of God to be "destructive". The devil has squirmed his way into your mind and reaped great confusion, I'm sorry to see.
"You should love women and not have sex with another man. That is nasty."
Yes, your ignorance, judgment, and prejudice are indeed nasty and repulsive to God.
@MattFrame First of all, being Black or having green eyes is not a sin. Color of skin and eyes is determined by the DNA that is passed from your parents. Homosexuality is not an inherited trait, and will never be. Homosexuals choose to be gay or lesbian based on their previous experiences. They are not born that way. If they were, their birth certificates would say gay boy or lesbian girl. Some at a young age choose to be attracted to people of their own gender. Get understanding please.
"being Black or having green eyes is not a sin."--Kalisa36
Neither is being gay, or having any other innate characteristic bestowed upon you by God. That's why my comparison is so apt.
"Homosexuals choose to be gay"
Nobody educated in the subject agrees with this contention. The proof says just the opposite. The only people desperate enough to spread the "choice" myth are those who want to justify the discrimination against gay people which is borne from their chosen religious lifestyle.
Again, the proof is against you. No credible medical, scientific or psychiatrist association association contends that anyone "chooses" his sexual orientation.
"If they were, their birth certificates would say gay boy or lesbian girl."
LOL, now you're just being silly. Do birth certificates say, "left-handed girl" or "republican boy"? Come on, please stay within the realm of reality.
@Kalisa36 I am not religions or Christian. I wanted to say:It is possible as there is a spectrum of sex assignment. It is called hermaphrodites. Somehow this "god" in your bible said he made female for male. Yet, he never mentioned hermaphrodite or inter-sexed individuals. There are some (rare) born without genitals and genitals does not make the sex, the chromosomes do. In some cases, some born with 'XXX'. Homosexuality & Heterosexuality are governed by the attraction rather than the action.
"If it were that way, we would need to open all the prisons and correctional facilities to release all the inmates who acted on their TENDENCIES!"--booboohead76
Comparing an innate quality like homosexuality, skin color, eye color, or the hand you write with, to criminal behavior that lands you in prison is just irrational and ridiculous. Heterosexuals routinely rape, abuse, rob, and murder each other, but their actions are the problem, not their heterosexuality. It's the same with gay folks.
@MattFrame I AGREE MATT WHATS REALLY DISGUSTING IS HOW PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THE WORD HATE WITH A GOD ABOVE MANKIND AND ALL GODS. I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THESE IGNORANT PEOPLE ON CRASADES ABOUT FAT CHURCH MEMBERS SINCE THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF GLUTTONY AND HOW IF YOU FEEL IT PUT A KNIFE TO YOUR THROAT. I'VE COME TO TERMS THAT ITS NOT THE BIBLE THAT SPEAKS HATE ITS THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IT. IF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS A INFLUENTIAL CHOICE THEN THE PEOPLE WHO INFLUENCED US TO CHANGE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTALBLE.
@kevn4life, it's so true. All the hypocritical, faux "Christians" who scream about homosexuality always completely ignore the sins they, themselves, commit, like gluttony, bearing false witness, adultery, etc. They have no authority to speak for the Lord, who has already made His approval of homosexuality quite clear.
@MattFrame Did GOD tell you that HE accepts homosexuality? Which god told you that? What is his name? My GOD whose SON is JESUS does not accept homosexuality. In what way has my GOD made HIS approval of homosexuality quite clear? What is the scripture that supports your opinion? You are a human that likes to have sex with men. The term homosexuality separates people by how they have sex and how they dress. Change your mind. Your mind is telling you to like men. GOD wants your heart.
@MattFrame You sounded like you are a homosexual man in your posts. As a Believer, you cannot support homosexuality. Again, I do not hate homosexauls. But, as a Born Again Believer, I must tell the people the TRUTH because many are being mislead by people who are teaching, protesting, and preaching that GOD still loves them while they are currently practicing homosexuality. Many are refusing to change and be obedient to Christ and living as homosexuals anyway. This is disobedience to GOD.
@kevn4life There is only one GOD. At JESUS' return every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. I repented of my sins. What makes you think that you are any better than me or exempt from the same expectations that all BELIEVERS have to follow? If it is wrong for me to have sex before marriage (heterosexual), have homosexual relations or commit adultery, why do you believe that it is ok for you or anyone else to have homosexual relations? We need to stop disobeying GOD.
@Kalisa36 Don't act like you don't know why. How can homosexual have relations? because heterosexuals make it twice as hard for us to get married. Yes, our time is now whether you want to except it or not(sound familiar:slavery). You know whats so funny Kalisa its our realities you read yours I live mine. I've tried to PRAY the GAY AWAY!!!!!! Tried everything everyone who knows absolutely nothing about it has told me. So instead of becoming a ATHEIST I keep a personal relationship with god
WOW... after watching these videos, i can put on some 3D glasses and almost see the blinding spirit hovering over the two pastors on the right. My spirit in me is bubbling inside to hear them two speak as if homosexuality is ok. She herself said that she was "born" that way(gay) and that is how "God made her"... I heard a word recently saying that humans are born with "tendencies" every day. Gay tendencies, rebellious tendencies, Anger, lying...etc. so many others.
Right we are under grace. It's interesting, Jesus said nothing specifically about lots of actions we consider sins. Pedaphilia is never mentioned by Christ, yet, we know that someone engaging in pedaphilia will not enter into Christ's grace continuing in this sin. Their life choice does not bear the fruit of the holy spirit, but, of the adversary. We need to be watchful to not be deceived. The road is indeed narrow, but, thank God for his grace. He has the strength to overcome.
@karenafischer...If you were referring to me let me be the first to say that grace is a covering for a period of time. In another words there's a time limit for us to get right....."Perfect" (Matt 5:48). Once again grace is for ignorance of the Law, once the individual is informed that they was an offense to God by breaking his commandments and then they repent and accept Christ, then they fall under grace (acceptance) (1Peter 1:13-14).
@karenafischer...The word pedaphilia wasn't known in those times, rape orlust was the common words. In those days it was ok for a man to marry a "virgin" (young maiden), once she had her first menustral she was ready to marry and bear children no matter the age. If a man/pedaphil chooses to have sex with a young girl he lusted/sinned after her, if he chooses the same after a young boy (which was known also as a virgin) he lust/sinned after him. cont>>>
@karenafischer...cont>>> No matter the age group any type of physical force is considered rape, and we see both of those actions in the scriptures (meaning raping of men and women).
@williambernardbrown..Your misinformed about the Truth message of Christ and The Apostles. We're to accept Christ as an sacrifical offering for our past sins, there after we come to THIS TRUTH of Christ we're to walk no more in sin but in righteousness, which is related to HIS righteousness and were to walk AFTER HIS manner. Paul spoke of more than one law, the law that's assoicated with Romans 6:14 is the law of animal sacrifice, were no long under that law (to sacrifice animals for our sins).
Wow, I realy like everyones comments. But every iota of the "passion" (before during and after the crucifiction) is the replacement of our sin. When God was made sin so that we could be made his righteous we were then made slaves to grace not the law. Romans 6:14 But the "passion" or grace dosnt give us a free pass to sin. Rom 6:15
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RIMTV1 5 days ago
I would like to here anyone here exegete the text found in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and also 1 Timothy 1:9-10
MrGwaneDM 2 weeks ago
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Pastor Foster is the only one of the other 2 pastors that is speaking what God says
falconfan1990 1 month ago
As for stoneing, if you speak about the bible, you should read the whole thing. Jesus took the stone from our hands. Vengence is his alone. Jesus said "i did not come to abolish my fathers law but to fullfill it". God warned us this day would come. Remember most churches turn from him. Thank God for the pasters who still speak the TRUTH.
78alissa 2 months ago
The Bible also says that rebellious children should be put to death (stoned). If we going to go by everything the Bible says, then it's a lot of us that need to get to murdering our own children. The Bible says that slaves should obey their masters, therefore blacks rebelled against God( The Bible) during the Civil rights movements. The Bible says you shouldn't eat pork(swine). Let's be honest, most of us love pork chops. There is so much more I could say argue.
DarkPrince1785 2 months ago
@DarkPrince1785 your comment shows that you possess an at best juvenile view of scripture application. I could say more but Im not sure you would have a mature grasp of what that would mean.
gcmwatch 2 months ago
@gcmwatch Please say more. It is indeed true, if we should live by the Bible, then we should live by everything it says. I'm not saying what the Bible says is wrong. I'm just referring to the context that Pastor DL used. Since you felt the need to reply to my statement I would like to encourage you to get a King James Version Bible and find the word homosexual or homosexuality in the New Testament.
DarkPrince1785 2 months ago
@DarkPrince1785 God addresses behavior. Regardless of the name attached to it, if the behavior falls within the context of his condemnation of it, then it remains sin. Thus, your assertion that the word homosexual doesnt appear in the KJV is moot. The bible is literal, allegorical, prophetic, historical with slices of human experience interwoven throughout. When you say that we should live by all of it, your words are right, but your motive for saying it is wrong.
gcmwatch 2 months ago
@gcmwatch The bible does say disobedient children should be stoned, just as it says working on the sabbath is a commitment to be put to death.
smurfboywv 1 month ago
@smurfboywv if you have a disobedient child and want to stone him/her based on what you think the bible says, go right ahead. Please understand that you will be arrested, tried and most likely given the death penalty by a non-religious court.
gcmwatch 1 month ago
@gcmwatch Deuteronomy 21 19 then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city, to the gate of his city. 20 And they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ 21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear.
smurfboywv 1 month ago
@DarkPrince1785 If you feel strongly about that, go ahead. See my warning below. I dont own slaves. Hope you dont either. Im not jewish so I can eat all the pork I want. Next?
gcmwatch 1 month ago
Pastor Foster is awesome !
14624 2 months ago
The bald head guy without glass is on his way to hell. You are a jelly back preacher and you need to be exposed. In fact if you don't tell people the truth then you will have to give a account for it.
money1234354 3 months ago
and the bald guy you are totally spitting in Jesus face ! humble yourself before God and repent!
grea134 3 months ago
you are out of your mind woman! repent and follow Jesus
grea134 3 months ago
it is mandatory to note that when Jesus came he didnt destroy any laws. so everyone who's usimevthe terms new and old testament needs to read their bible because nothing in it says that the old testament is done away with.
williambernardbrown 3 months ago 2
this is crazy....!
Doit79 3 months ago
Jesus didn't talk about rape, child molestation or alot of other things but that dosent mean he accepted it!
blok229 4 months ago 2
Foster was gay and changed?................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
woodhavenblvd 4 months ago
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Roman 1-21 said god gave them over to their own desire that was worthy of death
MyJames245 4 months ago
Reprobates.
czhff9 4 months ago
Those 2 people on the end are IDIOTS.
djmistah 4 months ago
Good, biblically-based, respectful talk. Well moderated discussion and many good things said here. I wish more people could sit and respectfully and truthfully discuss major issues like they have done here.
msrparks1 4 months ago
Hah ha ha. So to unpack what she said she can live in fornication and God/Jesus endorses Sodomy. Add to that so long as you are comfortable with whatever you do you are ok in God's eyes because God could care God along behind our personal desires. In fact she says suggests that we can make up our own truths. I firmly believe the moderator, the woman and the brother in the blue suit all fail to understand the Bible. Nuff said.
Askadiddle 4 months ago
Romans 1:24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Gcolorina 5 months ago
@Gcolorina Romans1: 26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet
Gcolorina 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Roman1: 28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Gcolorina 5 months ago
Respond to this video Romanso1:31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them
Gcolorina 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Hear it clearly says in the New Testament, in Romans, that they that do such things are worthy of death, and those that take pleasure in what they do.
Gcolorina 5 months ago
Wow just absolute blatant rebellion against Gods word. That's all that is from the other two self proclaimed preachers. The word of God is the word of God and the REAL preacher told it like it is beginning at 7:09 and the woman was very disrespectful as she as the preachers so eloquently explained WORK IT OUT to try to explain God working in his life.
onebadgs400 5 months ago
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Isaiah 5:20 WOE! to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
nuggermyme 6 months ago
Isaiah 52:7 7 How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him who brings good news, who publishes peace, who brings good news of happiness, who publishes salvation, who says to Zion, “Your God reigns.” :).. give love ...
MsMikko77 6 months ago
Lamentations 3:17 17 my soul is bereft of peace; I have forgotten what happiness [1] is. Please do not forget... Happiness is for everyone and the bible speaks of it. Read your bible. God is love and love is for everyone.
MsMikko77 6 months ago
@way - Found 788 verses containing love. More results Gen 22:2 -Ex 34:7 Lev 11:3 -Deut 14:6 Deut 14:7 -1 Sam 20:14 1 Sam 20:15 -1 Chr 16:34 1 Chr 16:41 -Est 2:17 Job 10:12 -Ps 31:23 Ps 32:10 -52:8 Ps 136:9 -145:20 Ps 146:8 -Prov 19:8 Prov 19:22 -Sng 1:15 Sng 1:16 -5:1 Sng 5:2 -Isa 1:23 Isa 5:1 -Jer 9:24 Jer 11:15 -Dan 10:11 John 15:10 -Rom 8:39 Rom 9:13 -1 Cor 13:3 1 Cor 13:4 -Gal 5:6 Gal 5:13 -Phil 2:2 Phil 2:12 -2 Thes 2:16 2 Thes 3:5 -Phm 1:5 Phm 1:7 -2. Here are a few verses to help you.
MsMikko77 6 months ago
@way.."Psalm 136:2 2 Give thanks to the God of gods, for his steadfast love endures forever". The bible has numerous passages of love..if u worship a "vengeful" God then that is your prerogative. I worship a loving God. You repent...my heart is clean my life is blessed and I'm highly favored. What a wonderful feeling to be happy and love. I wake-up filled with joy. No matter how the devil tries to use ppl to have me lose faith I fight in a spiritual war. I win each day as I'm winning now.
MsMikko77 6 months ago
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Homosexuality was excepted by MOST ancient societies on all four corners of this planet. In fact they are moving out of a 2,000 year oppression. It wasn't the gays that came in and annihilated the Native Americans, it wasn't the gays that destroyed the Roman Empire and threw us into the DARK AGES, it wasn't the gays who declared war on Africa, and enslaved its people... it was CHRISTIANS! We need to stop using these people as escape goats for religions bloody history!
RodTalon0000 6 months ago
Who are we to judge and say what we dont agree with? You dont have the right to say who shld be married or not... The fact is not all men like women and not all women like men. They dont have to be forced to marry the opposite sex so they can be favorful to God . God loves us just as we are. God wants everyone happy.. not just if ur heterosexual.. Love is for EVERYBODY
MsMikko77 7 months ago
@MsMikko77 Where in the bible does it say God wants everyone happy? Jesus and his closest followers died horrible deaths. That was his own son. Read your bible and repent.
waytruthlifedisciple 6 months ago 2
Respecting all different kinds of people is very important. I do not agree with the homosexuality such as the same sex marriage is totally against the Word of God. Homosexuality is a strong spirit that is hidden undercover in the church and also exploited vividly in the world. We as the church have to love that person with Christ love purely, but not agreeing with the sexual act which promotes the wrong message; especially, among this new generation today.
SistaX7 7 months ago
if u wanna change if not be you.. but god is love and love is for everybody
MsMikko77 7 months ago
yes, any one can have a open heart and willingness to change, but do not force the Bible on people because it can push them away from seeing the radiant light of God's love in us.
SistaX7 7 months ago
@SSWAVE4DAVE The word is very clear that homosexuality is wrong. How does a prejudice change the fact that the Bible never suggests homosexuality is right? There is no scripture you can find that will promote homosexuality. However, there are plenty that say same sex relations are bad. Don't start talking about loving your neighbor either. Just because I love you doesn't mean I have to accept your unjust lifestyle. Many criminals have loving families so does that mean they are okay too?
trywillard 8 months ago
It's sad that PASTORS of all people aren't even taking the word of God seriously and are continuing to live in a sinful lifestyle and making tons of excuses for it. Marriage is between a man and a woman! If homosexuality was normal and natural most of us would be homosexual and you'd be able to reproduce with the same sex and you could have normal sex with the same gender BUT your body isn't made for that because it isn't right words won't change human anatomy.
utubesuckssomuch 8 months ago
It is so crazy to believe that these two people: the woman and the man at the end really believe what they are saying. Pastor Foster is giving Word from the Bible, the other two are giving you there own beliefs. Anytime you follow your own beliefs instead of following the Word in the Bible, you have no merit to what you are saying. Follow the Word of God, it is clearly that these two at the end(Martin and whatever the other's name) are living for self to justify their way of life.
KELVINRHARRIS 8 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS But let me ask: do YOU feel your life is justified through Christ? We all do, whether straight or gay. But it's dangerous when we assume that because we are justified, people who seem really different must not be as justified. This indicates we think we've earned our justification, that God prefers people like me. We read the Bible through a lens of prejudice, thinking it favors us. We assume the Bible speaks clearly against monogamous same-sex love, when it does not.
sswave4dave 8 months ago
@sswave4dave Hello how are you? You ask the question, do I feel justified in my life? I am justified through the Lord Jesus, not because I am so good, but because what He did for me on the Cross and what He did three days later. And I have choose to serve Him according to His Word. This gives me justification. The Bible clearly states that a man shouldnt lay with another man( Lev. 18:22, 20:13) A woman is meant for man. I'm not here to judge you but the Bible is truth. It can't be altered.
KELVINRHARRIS 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS Hey Kelvin, it's going pretty good. I was a strong believing Christian all my life until a year ago. Unfortunately, I came to discover that the Bible appears to be man-made, not endorsed by God. I know that the Bible speaks against homosexuality, but it also speaks against women, for example:
"Man didn’t have his origin from woman, but woman from man; and man wasn’t created for the sake of the woman, but the woman for the sake of the man" (1Cor 11:8-9).
and another example:
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS
... another example:
"A woman[a] should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[b] she must be quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. But women[c] will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety. (1Tim 2:11-15)
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS Regarding those passages which abase women, it was only a matter of time before our collective moral conscience superceded the Bible and we started saying things like "well those verses must be analyzed within the cultural context of the time, they weren't meant for us today." That's just a nice way of saying that we don't regard those verses as timeless absolute truths. You say the Bible is truth and can't be altered, but do the women cover their head at your church?
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS Did Jesus think the Bible's meaning could be altered? Of course he did, he was a religious radical. He did so in the gentlest way possible, but essentially neutralized (or as he said, "fulfilled") all the archaic blood-thirsty murderous rigid oppressive OT laws. He did not regard OT law as timeless truths, but as a tutor for the timeless truth of love. Love is what he taught, and he did not write a single word of the NT.
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS It's a good thing Jesus believed that Biblical meaning/application could be altered, otherwise we'd still be stoning/burning people who: disagree with priests (Deut 17:12), curse/hit parents (Lev 20:9, Ex 21:15), non-virgins (Deut 22:20-21), commit adultery (Lev 20:10), don't seek the God of Israel (2 Chr 15:12-13), homosexuals (Lev 20:13), false prophets (Zech 13:3), fortune tellers (Lev 20:27), work on Saturday (Ex 31:12-15), witches (Ex 22:17), etc etc.
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS I speculate that if Jesus came back and spoke today he'd say he's disappointed that his legacy, the legacy of a man who introduced a paradigm shift away from scriptural absolutism, was distorted into a mere transfer of scriptural absolutism from one scripture (the OT) to another scripture written decades after his death (the NT). I bet he'd say, "You totally missed the point!" and overturn the anti-gay tables, to say the least. Jesus would spend most his time with the oppressed.
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS It's important to investigate and think deeply about what the Bible really is and isn't saying. If we don't, we're just gonna believe what people tell us. This is why something as horrific as slavery took so long to abolish, because non-thinking believers were injecting their own traditional prejudices into scripture. The Southern Baptist Church didn't even officially apologize for it's role in slavery until 1995. Beware our traditions, and our presuppositions.
sswave4dave 8 months ago
@KELVINRHARRIS ur RIGHT on POINT!!
Goodlife51 7 months ago
@Goodlife51 Hey thanks. God Bless.
KELVINRHARRIS 7 months ago
The guy all the way to the right says his son came out?....isnt that the same preacher w a youtube vidoe that says he is a bi-sexual pastor?.......I agree w the other Preacher 100%..no matter your past when u come to Christ u have to DENY urself....not go to a church that affirms ur sin!
Goodlife51 9 months ago
@Goodlife51 hahahaha....and the woman thinks she is the final word. Hilarious.
TheAssmutt 8 months ago
ALL sexual human nature in and of itself is unclean. God gave us marriage to protect ourself from the penalty of these urges and actions. Sex with any person outside of marriage is detestable.
Sex is carnal nature of the earth its purpose is for procreation. The urges are for the sake of procreation.
Jesus said it would be better that a man never touch a woman.
It is and has always been sex. Sex in any form is sex.
and Sex is not what Love is
God knows us and the bible isn't so very complex.
Jon12213 9 months ago
and i answered, holyness! thats the only thing going to to see jesus! not what i think, what others think,but whats writtien! Aside from that nonscense, there is trouble on the way! Rev.7:1-8, make sure you Know Jesus!
33sword 9 months ago
How can u be a pastor of the church, when one of the qualifications of the office of bishop is..............THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE? 2 of these pastors dont qualify! Its in the hand-book!
33sword 9 months ago
the problem comes in when we try to put our own feelings on what we think the bible says. Being gay is wrong, the word LOVE does not mean gay!!!!!!!
tonesrus1 9 months ago
At 1:58 Listen To How The Lady Lies And Says That Paul Wasnt Talking About Homosexuality, By Playing With Words By Saying"THE WORD HOMOSEXUALITY DID NOT EXSIST" When Paul Clearly Said That Homosexuality Is Wrong.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 The word Homosexual was actually coined in until 1869. However, as usual the bible tries to interpret as best as they can and usually it is wrong translation or loose that never fits the same. Blame revised versions of the bible, which no one has the original anyway.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 Ya See?There You Go Again! In Another Vain Attempt To Dazzle People With Your Brilliance.Did I Ever Disagree With The Lady That Said That The Word (Homosexuality) Was Not In Ther Bible?<NO I Didnt. I Said That She Was Playin With Words.Becasue It Was Obvious To Me That She Was Grasping At Straws.When The Bible Says When A Man Lays With Another Man,It Describes Homosexuality. So Nevermind Your"THE BLAME REVISED VERSION OF THE BIBLE" Comment. Your History Lesson Was Unwarranted.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 I didn't see the question. What did you ask 33sword?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 I Asked Him Will He(33sword) Be Without Sin Upon His Death.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
My comment was for those preachers who claim to beleive, but deny him. & i dont know what heaven looks like, the bible says that heaven & earth is going to pass away! But the new jeruselm will be with jesus when he returns & the streets are paved with gold! It also states that there will be earthquakes in diverse places, egypt fighting amongst each other, wicked revealing themselves=hip hop & these false prophets, & one world money, gov., eventually 1church. Gov. SHUT DOWN? time to wake up!
33sword 9 months ago
@33sword Government shutdown happened in 1995 and 1996. Vague "prophecies" are in the bible.Nostradamus had prophecies too.The world was predicted to end 220 times before. Fish died in the thousands in 1997 and many other dates. Japan is not diverse they are on the tatonic plates. They are just pushing this agenda of fear. Which only feed the forces they need to stay in power. They like people to panic and say this "prophecy" match with this, that is the plan push fear to feed there gods.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 but the dollar was not on the verge of collapsing! Next year the dollar is headed for being worth only 25-35 cents. That opens the door for one world money that they are working on now, check it out. Televising the gov. shut down, there reading a script! MY source bout the dollar has 22yrs in washington & confirms. People who know about the money problem think its going to be like what happened in mexico, but the only thing is everything is centered arround the$.
33sword 9 months ago
@33sword I read a lot. Elijah Muhammed wrote about the "Fall of America" & there are other books speaking on what will happen & so on. The fact is there is no way to now for certainty unless it happens. Again, There were predictions 220 times. A lot of missed "prophecies" is omitted as well. I am so tired of hearing the "I am legend" survival tactics etc.Prepare yourself? Then do that but what feeds their forces is fear, the two different powers overhead are actually not getting along right now.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 democrats & republicans run nothing. The elite run the world. They stem from the pharos. We have modern-day pharos running everything. There is no real trouble in egypt and other countries, that's just a smoke screen for the real trouble in china & russia! These elite run the worlds banking system(Federal reserve). Federal was put in front to seem like government, but its independently owned. This will b the worlds financial solution. They use a math unknown to man. Investagate
33sword 9 months ago
@33sword *face palm* You didn't get clarity when I said I read often,read, research & study on various subjects not just this.I never said democrats & republicans run anything as they are one party. Modern-day Pharaohs? Never. I know about central banking which was the first, Mexico and U.S billion dollar surplus deal etc. You're telling me nothing new. Reptilian shape shifters aren't always the bad ones. Again, there is abundance of information on certain forces, So, what are you going to do?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
if you disagree with homosexuality why are you labeled a homophobe? i don't like a lot of stuff but that doesn't mean i'm scared of it. i just think it's wrong. why are the ones who disagree with homosexuality judged so harshly? don't want to see two men slobbering all over each other in public just as much as i don't want to see a man and a woman slobbering all over each other in public because i think it's disrespectful.
msindymusic 9 months ago
@msindymusic Remember though. "Normal" is what the majority does or is. "Normal" is a social/human conditioning governed by society and man. So, What is wrong or right or bad or good or evil is all subjective/exists in one's mind.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
My God! R they serious? 1corinthians6:9-10. Homosexuality is one of the things that wont see the kingdom of god.
33sword 10 months ago
@33sword God has no kingdom. Only man who wrote the bible created the "kingdom". Do they have chairs in that kingdom to? How does it look there? It also says what else won't see the "kingdom".
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom". Come with proof and evidence before uttering words that holds no weight!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 What? Listen I speak ontology, so no need for me to speak opinion. Where is the proof god has a kingdom? There is none as It is logical and that is the evident. The science proof is there is no god in the sky, therefore where would his kingdom be?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....I asked for the proof first so please stop with your philosophy, bring facts that there's no kingdom!!! You're understanding is new age, the understanding that God has a Kingdom has been spoken, understood, and known for generations. So please prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom" and nothing else!!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 Hahaha. I gave you clear FACTS: "God" has NO tangible/empirical evidence which means he does NOT exist in turn means there is NO kingdom. I speak through Ontology, it is FACTS. Beginning as early as 250 BC, the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek by Jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt. This translation became known as the "Septuagint", meaning 70 etc. Many as 40 authors help translate but First it was William Tyndale and then King James. This is evident. This is fact.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Ok if the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek by Hebrew scholars how does it prove that there's no kingdom of God?? You're making blank statements about "clear FACTS", you have not as of yet gave a concrete fact using your Ontology information, archaeological, books or research to debunk that there's NO kingdom of God!! Now please show us your proof and evidence without YOUR philosophy of words, give us proof of an ANCIENT book or something stating your argument!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (again cont...) I don't base all my understandings on things I can only see, that is part of evidence and logic to understand certain knowledge not all of it. You said science is a failure. Yet, science everything is around you. Just believe in life? is that good enough for you? To check my knowledge you must check yours first. As science is failure and religion is..then where do you go or what is your study or are you going to say nothing?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Once again still no proof or evidence that there's no kingdom!!! You are an Evolutionist I am not, you believe something totally different then what I believe. So therefore we will continue to bump heads and disapprove one anothers belief! So be happy blackangel5555.
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (part 3 cont) If you can so call debunk all I am saying then what show me evidence of god having a kingdom? Since you are so outside of this realm and know things you cannot and etc and science is failure, and religion is just not translated properly etc. Debunk everything I said just throw it out, go ahead cool then but now Show me your knowledge of a god and his kingdom, show me proof? and everything else then show me prove it to me?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....I looked back 3 weeks past on this venue and have not seen any evidence that you posted proving that there's no kingdom of God! You base your understanding on the things you can see, but I don't base my understanding fully on things I can see. Some things that happen without an explanation in which one can not see causes that person to have doubt and confusion! cont.....
ARonald17 9 months ago
@blackangel5555.....cont....Many things go unanswered but the problem shows intelligence, meaning there's a higher power that forces one to inquire on that intelligent for the answer who happened to created or allowed the problem to occur!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 I speak ontology. I never said I don't "believe" in a God. Not the one Religion describes or in the bible as "God in a kingdom" and you knew what I meant. Some take it literally as it is only being imaginative or archaic. I am Gnostic Theist. I see that the most high. I don't say god and God can be anything as the term "God" is a greek word meaning power,control and anybody can be that. "God" was actually referring to beings and on top of that the most high is higher.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555...The Most High is what I use, the name God is what the populus use and relate to, so to be on common ground for understanding purposes I use God unless otherwise. And please don't assume that I understand things you may explain, thank you.
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (continued....) and Since we are debating something that you clearly knew what I meant as it being archaic and imaginative. Again, I do this all day and accept by way first empirical or tangible evidence, science, neuroscience, logic and reasoning. Those are my sources that are facts. I study and research daily as I love knowledge as this is what I do, after my fun, job etc I read. Whether or not you view the statements as a certain perception makes it complex.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555...This is clearly not a debate in my eyes maybe in yours. Science, neuroscience etc, is not worth the funding that it uses. Science has failed over and over again and so therefore it can not be trusted, science is finite and can only explain the space that it shares with other organisms an microbes within its enviroment. Logic is what it is, its limited to the knowledge that it obtains, it can not go no further until it gets further programing. The Most High God is INFINITE!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 Science has failed and can't be trusted? LOL. Religion is the biggest failure and can never be trusted with it's reused doctrine. Again as I stated I accept things with logic, reasoning and most of all empirical and tangible evidence. Religion = NO. When a person dies there are other dimensions they can be infinite too because they transform their energy. The concept of the most high and whom or what this energy is - is subjective.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Science has failed and will continue to fail because its man made (limited). Look at your science labatories along with the side-effect factors and you tell me if science can be trusted, whether from medical to evolution the scientist are not sure and its all about a hit or miss. Yes religion is the biggest failure and can never be trusted especially when a person can not understand the truth in the source materials that's been written over the generations (records).
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 Science was never been man made, always here and waiting to be discovered by man. Religion is total crap. I know of Hebrew and Greek and the fact that there is no original when they just found a new version already in Hebrew. Religion stems from most other cultures as I stated. I don't need religion, never have and never will.My will is my will.You don't have proof that "God" is infinite seeing you have no evidence of his existence. Proof is here Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555...So why are you on this venue for??? Go to some other venue with those of same like mindsets! You are on a christian venue of those that believe the opposite of what you believe, and here you go pushing this, LOL!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 >>cont again>>> Stop replying back to me unless you can debunk the evidence I stated which was clear: THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF GOD THUS MEANING HE HAS NO KINGDOM. THAT is my evidence. If you don't like it or THINK IT IS NOT EVIDENCE. Stop replying back with child's play like "Still no proof" because I stated it. You still cannot proof "GOD IS INFINITE", UNLESS you can refute what I stated instead of the same quote to only state "no proof" goes nowhere. You should've been told me off.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....You just want the last say and it will not happen!! I said to you first to end YOUR RANT because you have no proof, and now you're trying to tell me to stop replying back to you with "childs play" LMBO!!! For the third time end your rant otherwise I will continue to reply back to you with the same reply hoping that you will eventually end it! There is a God in the sky with a Kingdom that will come!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 When is he coming and where is your proof that there is a kingdom and he is coming etc? That is all I am asking. If you can answer that them I am done, If you don't answer that I guess there is no answer. I don't want the last word as that is child's play. If someone refuted what I stated then I have nothing else to say, so I don't always "attempt" to get the last say. Again, if someone refuted what I say then I couldn't respond.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555 Im Shocked & Jealous. But Anyway, Do You See The Question That I Asked 33sword? I Asked The Same Question In The Same Words To Kelisa36 Last Night,But When I Woke Up This Morning The Owner Of This Vid Removed It. HMMM,I Wonder Why.And Kelisa36 Has Yet To Answer Me. Just Like The People That Are Talking In This Video,The Uploader & The Beleivers In This Comment Section,None Of Them Follows The Bible.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@ARonald17 The Thing With You Beleivers In This So-called Holy Books Is That Yall Are Either DisHonest Or To Proud. You Could Have Easily Deaded This Proof Thing Blackangel5555 Is Requesting By Being Honest In Telling Her That You Have No Real Proof ,But What You Do Have Is Faith>1st Peter 1:8-9 But Instead Of Just Flat Out Admitting That You Are A Mere Prisoner Of Hope< Zechariah 9:12 Your Pride Gets In The Way. And Saying Something Is True Because It Says So In The Bible Is Not Proof,ARonald.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972....Shalom Ach!!! LMBO!!!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@MrHead1972...And thanks anyway! LOL!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 ARonald17 is not a Christian he just likes to cause problems, he does it for the attention
fictfact 9 months ago
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MrHead1972 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (cont) You probably still in religion. LOL. All you are doing it trying to get me to go in a circle of non-sense. I don't stand in ignorance. Evidence both empirical and tangible are everywhere. You cannot prove God infinity cause you can't prove god exists. Yet, you take all of pieces wanting evidence when I gave it to you & it more logical than anything.LOL, You haven't proved anything to me and I told you were the proof is, yet you want me to prove something to you, I don't have to
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Still no proof from you just rumble, LMBO!!!!!!!!!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 This is what I do all day, I think facts/ontology.I said there is no proof of god so there is no kingdom, that is evident. Religion= belief more than anything and I don't deal with religious people when FREE thinking. You are defending a defense. All you wanted to do was speak on "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence" that is ALL you can conclude too. However, you NEVER proved to me how god can be infinite as you can't prove there is one. I am not a Evolutionist. :)
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555....Again I asked you FIRST to give evidence of your claim that there's no kingdom of God and you have not done so as of yet, so I will not answer any of your questions until you FIRST answer mine with proof and evidence. Now enough with this back and forward going over the same ole same ole I will not respond to any more of your responses until you answer my first question. So here it is again, give evidence of your claim that there's no kingdom of God.
ARonald17 9 months ago
@blackangel5555...I would rather listen to the Ancient instead of the Modern! Prove through your evidence in written materials that "when a person dies there are other dimensions they can be infinite too because they transform their energy." (Egyptology)??
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 Do you know what empirical evidence is? I gave clear evidence, there is no god in the sky as you cannot see it, touch it, or observe thus he has no kingdom. That is the evidence & you choose to "omit" it. LMAO. Oh let me guess you are going to "quote" what I say again to only state prove it? You cannot prove god exists let alone he is infinite. Child's play? as "If you won't tell me, I won't tell you". If you say my evidence is none then refute it.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555...LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why are you still talking?? I chose not to hear your ideology just answer the question with nothing more or simply put an end to your rant, here's the question again>> "Prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "God has no kingdom and that its only man who wrote the bible who created the kingdom" Cut and paste it with the reference number, author etc!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 Hahahaha: I gave you evidence that you are being ignorant of. God does not exist and thus there is no kingdom. That is evidence. The Negro Christian Codes of 1724 really beat it in you. The only god exists are the ones on earth. god is a greek word meaning control/power, anyone can be a god. Evidence is this: GOD DOES NOT EXIST THUS MEANING HE CANNOT HAVE A KINGDOM. Proof stems from EVIDENCE. There is no tangible or empirical evidence. It is you "belief" that he does... cont>>
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@blackangel5555.....Still no proof!!!!!! But you can continue to rant eventually you will get tired! LMBO!!!!!!! Please I insist....CONTINUE!!!!!!
ARonald17 9 months ago
@ARonald17 LMAO. I see the Negro Christian Codes of 1724 has mentally enslaved you, where you grasp clarity of simple logical evidence.You are just Being arrogant about your ignorance, when I gave you evidence there is NO god thus NO kingdom, you can't observe it, this is evidence, just proved it. This is what I do, study and science panel. I just gave you EVIDENCE of said. "God is infinite" as there is no evidence of him.. you can't supply EVIDENCE for that so you want to act like I didn't? LOL
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@ARonald17 cont >>> I do this daily on my panel, you don't get that? ....YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT GOD IS INFINITE? LMAO....HAHAHA. Please I insist...you keep stating something clearly refuted. All you do is "quote" just doing child'd play if you really wanted to refute what I have just stated you would have already but NO EVIDENCE of your "INFINITE GOD". You already know once you state "GOD IS INFINITE" that I real refute it so all you keep doing is ignoring my EVIDENCE, quote me. Be Mature.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@ARonald17 cont>>> Then it is solely on belief. There is no evidence of a god existing thus meaning that he does not. Again it is just a greek word meaning power. Those on earth can be god etc. Now, referring to "The most high" is a different. But god? does not and the proof is in the evidence and the evidence is none. I just told you very clearly that there is no empirical/tangible evidence of a god above the sky if there is no god then there is no kingdom. Take it or leave it, I gave evidence.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (Continued...) I replied with facts & Again, I gave a fact that there is NO god so in turn there is No kingdom. Only dimensions.You cannot disapprove what I stated this only supplies more evidence of what I stated. As this is what I do study, research and accept by empirical/tangible evidence. I speak through ontology,I do this ALL day. If you cannot see clearly, you are just ignoring it.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@ARonald17 I asked for the proof first so please stop with your philosophy, bring facts that there's no Trident!!! You're understanding is new age, the understanding that Poseidon has a Trident has been spoken, understood, and known for generations. So please prove through your research of historical evidence and your written materials with ancient information saying that "Poseidon has no Trident and that its only man who wrote the Clay Tablets who created the Trident" and nothing else!!!
sswave4dave 7 months ago
@sswave4dave No offense, but this is the agenda that's being pushed! There has never been a woman head of anything in the bible! Prophesying & preaching is 2 diff things! Nor has there ever been a woman who's with another woman who leads anything! Contrary to beleif, satan has introduced his plan through media, music, etc. He premotes the idea of independent woman to the extent that women dont know what they want! The head of another woman, or a real relationship(m&W)! Its mo like demons!
33sword 7 months ago
@ARonald17 (continued...) You are boosting on a god that you cannot prove so in turn you cannot prove what he has or doesn't. Therefore it is obscure whom or what this god has as you have not or have no proof of his existence let alone his belongings. To belief is one thing but to know as factual is another. As I speak though ontology and facts are my study, to understand and seek evidence before accepting. Get knowledge of it.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@ARonald17 (continued again...) If one must conclude to a kingdom. Then you must describe it. If there is a kingdom of god then this god must have a queen or king etc The list goes on. If it is symbolic that would be understandable but still illogical because you have to prove god exists first to prove a kingdom or what type. This is more logic here. Symbolic would be more fit, but if people describe it as a kingdom it goes back to the original of "god" being: beings on earth not one in the sky.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
@33sword Im Asumming That You Beleive Homosexuality Is Wrong Because Its A Sin.(But Correct Me If Im Wrong In My Assumption)But I Have A Question. Will You Be Without Sin Upon Your Death?
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 The instructions are to be washed in the blood of jesus(baptism), repent of your sins, crucify the flesh daily! Not justify sin & keep doing the same sin over & over. We are to walk in spirit not in the flesh! Thats why the holy ghost is necessary! 2 of these pastors are clearly walking in the flesh, more worried bout the flesh than hollyness. Hollyness is the only thing going in the kingdom. U got the scriptures. My question, regardless of wateva sin, WHAT IN "HELL" DO WE WANT?
33sword 9 months ago
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MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 Answer , all flesh has sin! We have to repent & mean it, not repent & do the same sin. It comes down to how much we love the lord jesus, versus how much we love the world. Alot of us claim to love the lord jesus, but in works we deny him. Thats not love! All things are possible through christ jesus! Even dying holy. This is possible by walking in the spirit, full of the holy ghost, and not walking in the flesh. No matter how we try to justify sin, only holyness will see Jesus.
33sword 9 months ago
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MrHead1972 9 months ago
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MrHead1972 9 months ago
@33sword All This Flesh Talk Is Making Me Hungry,Its A Simple Question,I Asked U,"Will You Be Without Sin Upon Your Death? But Instead Of Answering It You Reply With Talk Of Flesh,Pastors,Crucifying,All Flesh Etc Etc. Your Talkin About We & Us We Do This And We Need To Do That,Im Not Talking 2 All Flesh,Im Talking To U.Im Not Talking 2 Us,Im Talking To U,Im Not Talking 2 We,Im Talking 2 U.But I Must Admitt That U Are Wise In Avoiding That Question.WILL YOU BE WITHOUT SIN UPON YOUR DEATH? SIMPLE!
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 That was ur answer. If u know Jesus is lord and his word is true, u would understand the answer i gave u.
33sword 9 months ago
@33sword What About A Yes Or A No? I Already Know Why You Wont Answer. I Know Why You Started Talking About Flesh,All Flesh,Pastors,Crucifying,Us,We, Justifying Sin,Hollyness,The Kingdom Etc Etc. And Its Because You Know That If You Were To Answer That Question With A Yes Or A No,That Either Answer Would Condemn You And Make Your Statements About Homosexuality As Sin Null & Void. So Like I Said,You Were Wise Not To Answer. But Let Me Try Again. WILL YOU BE WITHOUT SIN UPON YOUR DEATH?
MrHead1972 9 months ago
@MrHead1972 Again, if anyone justifies living in sin, rewording the instructions, not following the instructions, TELL HELL I AINT COMING! If i, if we, if u follow the instructions=holyness, that will see jesus. I'M GOING TO SEE JESUS!
33sword 9 months ago
@33sword Yeap! Like I Said, Your Wise In Avoiding The Question.SMART! Not Honest, But Smart. So Nevermind,I Got My Answer In Your No Answer.I've Posed That Question A Countless Amount Of Times,Here & There,And Sofar I've Only Got About 5 People Who Were Honest In Answering.Your Not 1 Of Them Though,Your Wiser Than Them,Not At All Honest As Them As A Matter Of Fact Your Not Honest At All,Only Wise 2 Save Face.Answering That Question Would Hurt Would'nt It?<Rhetorical Question No Answer Required.
MrHead1972 9 months ago
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@33sword I Just Ask You 1 Question,And That Question Was, Will You Be Without Sin Upon Your Death?Are You Gonna Answer It?
MrHead1972 9 months ago
it is interesting how we humans rationalize sin. It is also frightening that these two individuals are ministers. Complete rationalization and bending/twisting of the Word. There is a point in which our opinions become idols. At this point feelings and beliefs that are contrary to the unchanging Word of God are bowed down to. Reprobate minds.....
desirem1 10 months ago
"God did not create man to be with man as man should be with a woman! If everyone on the planet were gay then would the human race dwindle away-for two same sexes cannot produce a child!"
MrWINNSLAW 10 months ago
@MrWINNSLAW If god created man to be with woman then whom did he create hermaphrodites for?
blackangel5555 9 months ago
life that God wants for us. Sin is Sin and I am no one to judge, but let the WORD of God spoken in TRUTH not deceit divide the good and bad. The Devil is a liar and the prince of the powers of the air, blinding men and women to believe lies and embrace false teachings...even blinding "so called" pastors ... Jesus help us.
booboohead76 1 year ago
However, if we are born this way, it does not give us a RIGHT to embrace it. If it were that way, we would need to open all the prisons and correctional facilities to release all the inmates who acted on their TENDENCIES! We need to learn to CONTROL our tendencies and do it before it destroys us. God won't put something on His children too heavy to carry. He is the way out! Jesus is the door to the
booboohead76 1 year ago
@booboohead76 Homosexuals are not born gay. It is learned behavior. Lying psychologists made conclusions that homosexuals are born that way. When have you heard of a gay man born with a vagina and their sex chromosomes are XX? Or a woman born with a penis and their sex chromosomes are XY? NEVER!!! People who change their sex homonally and surgically still have the same sex chromosomes they are born with. Sex-reassigned males still have XY chromosomes & females still have XX chromosomes.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
@Kalisa36, of course people are born gay, because that's the way God wants them to be. Some people He creates black, some gay, some with green eyes, etc. You are embarrassingly uneducated about homosexuality and gender reassignment issues, but fear not. If you can pull the planks out of your eyes and turn away from Satan's influence over your soul, truth and education are out there. God loves they gays, don't whine and rant about His creating them. He's never going to stop, just to appease you.
MattFrame 10 months ago
@MattFrame My child ,you are definitely a reprobate or going to become one. You need to be deliverd from homosexuality. It is not a creation of God. God wants us to procreate in the normal way. Sex is beautiful when it is designed by God. Your way is the way to destruction. Something went wrong with homosexuals and Yeshua is the only one who can fix it. Please pray and fast for your deliverance. You should love women and not have sex with another man. That is nasty.
Corduroy66 10 months ago
"My child"--Corduroy66
You are neither my parent nor the Lord, so such a pious opening merely reveals your arrogance.
"You need to be deliverd from homosexuality."
So homosexuality is like pizza; you can call up the Lord, who creates it, and have it delivered. Hmm.
"It is not a creation of God."
The Lord disagrees with you. I hope you don't mind if I continue siding with Him on this--and all other--issues.
"Sex is beautiful when it is designed by God."
That's why gays enjoy themselves.
MattFrame 10 months ago
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@MattFrame GOD does not support homosexuality period.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
"Your way is the way to destruction. "--Corduroy66
Well, I'm a married, heterosexual man with two kids of my own procreation, who puts God & His will over man & His agenda. Curious how you deem heterosexuality & a love of God to be "destructive". The devil has squirmed his way into your mind and reaped great confusion, I'm sorry to see.
"You should love women and not have sex with another man. That is nasty."
Yes, your ignorance, judgment, and prejudice are indeed nasty and repulsive to God.
MattFrame 10 months ago
@MattFrame First of all, being Black or having green eyes is not a sin. Color of skin and eyes is determined by the DNA that is passed from your parents. Homosexuality is not an inherited trait, and will never be. Homosexuals choose to be gay or lesbian based on their previous experiences. They are not born that way. If they were, their birth certificates would say gay boy or lesbian girl. Some at a young age choose to be attracted to people of their own gender. Get understanding please.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
"being Black or having green eyes is not a sin."--Kalisa36
Neither is being gay, or having any other innate characteristic bestowed upon you by God. That's why my comparison is so apt.
"Homosexuals choose to be gay"
Nobody educated in the subject agrees with this contention. The proof says just the opposite. The only people desperate enough to spread the "choice" myth are those who want to justify the discrimination against gay people which is borne from their chosen religious lifestyle.
MattFrame 10 months ago
"They are not born that way."--Kalisa36
Again, the proof is against you. No credible medical, scientific or psychiatrist association association contends that anyone "chooses" his sexual orientation.
"If they were, their birth certificates would say gay boy or lesbian girl."
LOL, now you're just being silly. Do birth certificates say, "left-handed girl" or "republican boy"? Come on, please stay within the realm of reality.
"Get understanding please."
I DO understand why you deny the facts.
MattFrame 10 months ago
@Kalisa36 I am not religions or Christian. I wanted to say:It is possible as there is a spectrum of sex assignment. It is called hermaphrodites. Somehow this "god" in your bible said he made female for male. Yet, he never mentioned hermaphrodite or inter-sexed individuals. There are some (rare) born without genitals and genitals does not make the sex, the chromosomes do. In some cases, some born with 'XXX'. Homosexuality & Heterosexuality are governed by the attraction rather than the action.
blackangel5555 9 months ago
"If it were that way, we would need to open all the prisons and correctional facilities to release all the inmates who acted on their TENDENCIES!"--booboohead76
Comparing an innate quality like homosexuality, skin color, eye color, or the hand you write with, to criminal behavior that lands you in prison is just irrational and ridiculous. Heterosexuals routinely rape, abuse, rob, and murder each other, but their actions are the problem, not their heterosexuality. It's the same with gay folks.
MattFrame 10 months ago
@MattFrame I AGREE MATT WHATS REALLY DISGUSTING IS HOW PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THE WORD HATE WITH A GOD ABOVE MANKIND AND ALL GODS. I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THESE IGNORANT PEOPLE ON CRASADES ABOUT FAT CHURCH MEMBERS SINCE THE BIBLE SPEAKS OF GLUTTONY AND HOW IF YOU FEEL IT PUT A KNIFE TO YOUR THROAT. I'VE COME TO TERMS THAT ITS NOT THE BIBLE THAT SPEAKS HATE ITS THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK IT. IF HOMOSEXUALITY WAS A INFLUENTIAL CHOICE THEN THE PEOPLE WHO INFLUENCED US TO CHANGE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTALBLE.
kevn4life 10 months ago
@kevn4life, it's so true. All the hypocritical, faux "Christians" who scream about homosexuality always completely ignore the sins they, themselves, commit, like gluttony, bearing false witness, adultery, etc. They have no authority to speak for the Lord, who has already made His approval of homosexuality quite clear.
MattFrame 10 months ago
@MattFrame Did GOD tell you that HE accepts homosexuality? Which god told you that? What is his name? My GOD whose SON is JESUS does not accept homosexuality. In what way has my GOD made HIS approval of homosexuality quite clear? What is the scripture that supports your opinion? You are a human that likes to have sex with men. The term homosexuality separates people by how they have sex and how they dress. Change your mind. Your mind is telling you to like men. GOD wants your heart.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
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Kalisa36 10 months ago
@MattFrame You sounded like you are a homosexual man in your posts. As a Believer, you cannot support homosexuality. Again, I do not hate homosexauls. But, as a Born Again Believer, I must tell the people the TRUTH because many are being mislead by people who are teaching, protesting, and preaching that GOD still loves them while they are currently practicing homosexuality. Many are refusing to change and be obedient to Christ and living as homosexuals anyway. This is disobedience to GOD.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
@kevn4life There is only one GOD. At JESUS' return every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. I repented of my sins. What makes you think that you are any better than me or exempt from the same expectations that all BELIEVERS have to follow? If it is wrong for me to have sex before marriage (heterosexual), have homosexual relations or commit adultery, why do you believe that it is ok for you or anyone else to have homosexual relations? We need to stop disobeying GOD.
Kalisa36 10 months ago
@Kalisa36 Don't act like you don't know why. How can homosexual have relations? because heterosexuals make it twice as hard for us to get married. Yes, our time is now whether you want to except it or not(sound familiar:slavery). You know whats so funny Kalisa its our realities you read yours I live mine. I've tried to PRAY the GAY AWAY!!!!!! Tried everything everyone who knows absolutely nothing about it has told me. So instead of becoming a ATHEIST I keep a personal relationship with god
kevn4life 10 months ago
WOW... after watching these videos, i can put on some 3D glasses and almost see the blinding spirit hovering over the two pastors on the right. My spirit in me is bubbling inside to hear them two speak as if homosexuality is ok. She herself said that she was "born" that way(gay) and that is how "God made her"... I heard a word recently saying that humans are born with "tendencies" every day. Gay tendencies, rebellious tendencies, Anger, lying...etc. so many others.
booboohead76 1 year ago
Right we are under grace. It's interesting, Jesus said nothing specifically about lots of actions we consider sins. Pedaphilia is never mentioned by Christ, yet, we know that someone engaging in pedaphilia will not enter into Christ's grace continuing in this sin. Their life choice does not bear the fruit of the holy spirit, but, of the adversary. We need to be watchful to not be deceived. The road is indeed narrow, but, thank God for his grace. He has the strength to overcome.
karenafischer 1 year ago
@karenafischer....who are you addressing me or williambenardbrown? :-)
ARonald17 1 year ago
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@karenafischer....who are you addressing me or williambenardbrown? :-)
ARonald17 1 year ago
@karenafischer...If you were referring to me let me be the first to say that grace is a covering for a period of time. In another words there's a time limit for us to get right....."Perfect" (Matt 5:48). Once again grace is for ignorance of the Law, once the individual is informed that they was an offense to God by breaking his commandments and then they repent and accept Christ, then they fall under grace (acceptance) (1Peter 1:13-14).
ARonald17 1 year ago
@karenafischer...The word pedaphilia wasn't known in those times, rape orlust was the common words. In those days it was ok for a man to marry a "virgin" (young maiden), once she had her first menustral she was ready to marry and bear children no matter the age. If a man/pedaphil chooses to have sex with a young girl he lusted/sinned after her, if he chooses the same after a young boy (which was known also as a virgin) he lust/sinned after him. cont>>>
ARonald17 1 year ago
@karenafischer...cont>>> No matter the age group any type of physical force is considered rape, and we see both of those actions in the scriptures (meaning raping of men and women).
ARonald17 1 year ago
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@williambernardbrown..Your misinformed about the Truth message of Christ and The Apostles. We're to accept Christ as an sacrifical offering for our past sins, there after we come to THIS TRUTH of Christ we're to walk no more in sin but in righteousness, which is related to HIS righteousness and were to walk AFTER HIS manner. Paul spoke of more than one law, the law that's assoicated with Romans 6:14 is the law of animal sacrifice, were no long under that law (to sacrifice animals for our sins).
ARonald17 1 year ago
Wow, I realy like everyones comments. But every iota of the "passion" (before during and after the crucifiction) is the replacement of our sin. When God was made sin so that we could be made his righteous we were then made slaves to grace not the law. Romans 6:14 But the "passion" or grace dosnt give us a free pass to sin. Rom 6:15
williambernardbrown 1 year ago