1st speaker sited john13 :19 that painted a picture the next verse john13 :20 tells the whole truth of the matter,we can't read verses out of context this will lead to false truths.
There's room at the cross for you! There's room at the cross for you! Though millions have come,there's still room for one! There is room at the cross for yuou!
Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! He's our Rock! He's our Fortress! He's our Deliverer,in Him we will trust! Praise the name of Jesus!
(cont)But for we who know Him,for we who are saved,for we who are children of God,there is only one truth.There is a God,and His name is Jesus! All glory to the King of kings!
(cont)in the judgement,nor sinners in the congreagation of the righteous;for the Lord knows the way of the righteous,but the way of the wicked will perish...........we are blessed in the Lord as we follow after his word.we are blessed when we do not listen to wicked counsel,and those who try and drive us away from God.The teaching against the Diety of Christ was warned against time and time again by the Apostles.For the wicked,this is what they teach! For them,He was no more than a man.......
Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,nor stands in the way of sinners,nor sits in the seat of scoffers;but his delight is in the law(instruction)of the Lord,and on his law he meditates day and night.He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season,and its leaf does not wither.In all that he does,he prospers.The wicked are not so,but are like chaff that the wind drives away.Therefore the wicked will not stand....
@Fleasfleas2 Amen,brother.What has been shown us is of the Holy Spirit.Unbelievers cannot possibly know,or understand.The god of this world has blinded them to the truth of God's word! The Spirit of Christ,that is who guides us! The Spirit of Christ,that is who dwells in us! Amazing to me,is that at one point the Pharisees said Jesus had demons.When people say we do not have the Holy Spirit,they are in essence saying the same of us.If Jesus suffered,we will as well! The prize is waiting!
Those who believe Jesus is GOD were given that belief by the Roman Catholic Church, not God:
Peter knew who Jesus was: "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."
"And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven." Matt 16:16-17
Who is Jesus? the Son of God.
Peter did not believe that Jesus, the Messiah (anointed), was God. He knew that Jesus was the Son of God.
The LORD talking uses both ME and HIM referring to the being (Christ)
"and I (YHWH) will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on ME whom they pierced. yes,they will mourn for HIM as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for HIM as one grieves for a firstborn" --Zechariah 12:10
Praise God from whom all blessings flow! Praise Him all creatures here below! Praise Him above ye heavenly hosts! Praise Father,Son and Holy Ghost! Amen.----Psalm 65:1 Praise is due to you,O God,in Zion,and to you shall vows be performed.----Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born,to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder,and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor,Mighty God,Everlasting Father,Prince of Peace.
We worship You,Almighty God-Jesus-there is none like You! We worship You,O Prince of Peace,that is what we long to do! we give You praise,for You are our righteousness! We worship You,Almighty God-Jesus-there is none like You!----To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb,to Him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb,be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever!-----
There is none like You,Jesus! No one else can touch my heart like You do! I can search for all eternity long,and find there is none like You!----I love You,Lord,and I lift my voice to worship You,O my soul rejoice! Take joy my King in what You hear! Let it be a sweet,sweet sound in Your ear!----My Jesus,I love Thee,I know Thou art mine! For Thee all the follies of sin I resign! My gracious Redeemer,my Savior art Thou! If ever I loved Thee,my Jesus tis now!
There is only one truth-that is the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ! There is only one love-that is the love Jesus showed on the cross at calvary! There is only one way-that is through Jesus Christ! There is only one hope-salvation in His name! There is only one God-Father,Son and Holy Spirit! All glory to His name!
The Bible is so clear that we do not have to wait until then. It is Jesus Christ (arm of the LORD, right hand of GOD) who rules FOR GOD until all enemies are destroyed. We read that Jesus is SUBJECT to God in I Cor. 15:28.
Jesus is NOT God. Jesus is NOT equal to God. Jesus is the Son of God
We will be "joint" heirs WITH Christ. Who is the GIVER?
Believing the truth often means a paradigm shift ... too hard for most.
Yes, let's look at the context regarding Thomas seeing his risen Lord. Keep in mind that Jesus was given a glorified body, flesh and bone, by God. Thomas could see and feel the nail prints in his hands. Jesus has this same physical body as we speak. But, God is spirit. Jesus is not - because he has a physical body, though a glorified one, like we will be given also, Ph 3:21.
GOD = spirit; ON heaven's throne
Jesus = physcial flesh and bone body; AT the right hand of GOD.
What I am doing here is presenting clear evidence from the harmony of scripture that teaches that God is one and that this one God has a Son, who is not also the God he is the Son of.
Trinitarians are forced to sew togetjher isolated text, sometimes even using mistranslations, to try a prove a thing that is NOT IN SCRIPTURE.
Trinitarianism is not tantamount to, but IS idolatry, devising three gods to be one, which is polytheism, a common Babylonian pagan practice (heresy).
I quote I Timothy 6:16 primary because it is PLAIN LANGUAGE that NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD for the reason that GOD IS LIGHT and He dwells in UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT, which necessitates Him sending forth His messengers to speak for Him until all enemies are destroyed, which occurs at the end of time as we know it. Until then, he has used messengers to speak for him and writers to leave a written record of the things He would have us know. Heb. 1:1-2, I John 5:10-14, I Cor. 15:24-28.
Are we to believe that Satan offered GOD his own kingdom?!
Even Satan referred to Jesus as "Son of God" ... the demons also knew who he was. They knew he was not the GOD of heaven ... but that he was the Son of the GOD of heaven, Luke 3:4,9.
The word "theos" (god) is NOT EXCLUSIVELY USED OF THE ONE GOD.
Example: Satan is called the "god (theos) of this world" in II Cor. 4:4. Are we to believe that because the word "god" is used there, that it is a reference to the ONE GOD that sits on the throne of heaven?
The same thing applies when we read that Thomas exclaimed, "my lord and my god". "Theos" (god) simply means "powerful being", often used to describe Greek gods.
II John 7 when compared with I John 4:15 lets us know that the SON OF GOD is who "came in the flesh". Whoever does not confess that Jesus is the Son of God does not know God. John makes a CLEAR DISTINCTION between GOD and His Son. So, it truth, it is a deceiver who denies that the Son of God is who came in the flesh, by saying that "God came in the flesh". Whoever touts this well-worn mantra "God in the flesh" is antichrist, according to John.
Jesus is NOT "Eyeh Asher Eyeh". "Eyeh" is the Self-Existant One ... GOD the Father, who ALONE is inherently immortal, i.e., "life" itself. I Timothy 6:16 in plain language tells us that ONLY ONE is IMMORTAL ... GOD.
FACT: Jesus Christ DIED.
FACT: Jesus Christ was raised to life by the ONLY ONE WHO CAN GIVE LIFE ... THE FATHER.
FACT: Jesus is called the first born from the DEAD because he is the VERY FIRST to be given IMMORTALITY by God.
I Timothy 3:16 is not "proof text" for a "trinity god". The word "godliness" is being described by things that apply to Jesus Christ. The verse is inaccurately translated in several versions of the English Bible, leading to confusion and wrong conclusions. Most trinitarians scholars admit I Timothy 3:16 contains a scribal error and do not use it to try and justify their trinitarian position.
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness, which/who was manifested in flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory."
The word "godliness" (not God) is modified by the rest of the verse, beginning with "which/who". Some translations have translated it accurately (Douay Rheims, NAB, Wycliffe, NLT, ERV) and some have not.
NO SCRIPTURE teaches that the ONE GOD is really "three something". Those that teach false doctrine, like the trinity doctrine, perpetuate Babylon's mystery religion.
WHEN scripture is studied IN CONTEXT and IN HARMONY with all other scripture, it can be rightly divided, but only with the teaching of God's spirit to those who obey Him. I John 2:27, Acts 5:32
Most people do not practice God's ways and therefore are not given His spirit, I John 2:3-4.
Anyone fluent in Hebrew knows that Elohim can be used for ONE BEING and in that sense is a plurality of majesty.
Yes, scripture plainly tells us that GOD is ONE, Deut. 6:4
You stated re: the trinity: "We don't understand how that works. Still no excuse to deny Jesus deity or worse create G-D into mans image."
Trinitarians do exactly that, make GOD into man's image, Jesus, when GOD is clearly NOT Jesus, but is spirit. Jesus has a FLESH and BONE BODY, Luke 24:39.
You quoted Phil. 2:11, but LEFT OFF THE LAST VERY IMPORTANT PHRASE:
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is ... (GOD? ... no) Lord, TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER." Phil. 2:11
Does Jesus being "Lord" mean that he is GOD?
No, "Lord" (kurios) means "master". As the head of the body of believers, Jesus is our example, teacher, master. He is the anointed of GOD, the Messiah.
You quoted Hebrews 1:8, which comes from Psalm 45, which there is in regard to a human king, but failed to quote Hebrews 1:9:
The Father to the Son: "You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity, THEREFORE GOD, EVEN YOUR GOD, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows."
We can know that Jesus HAS A GOD ... His Father. Also, the Anointer is always GREATER than the anointed. Jesus is not God, rather he is the Son of God, Matt. 16:16.
Jesus Christ is to be honored because God exalted Him. However, Jesus is not the Creator, nor is he the GOD of the first commandment. You quoted Rev. 5:13-14, but failed to quote Rev. 4:11 pertaining to the ONE seated on the throne, who is GOD, NOT the Lamb:
"to Him that sat on the throne ... WORSHIP HIM ...Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and honor and power, for YOU have CREATED ALL THINGS." (regarding ONLY GOD, not the Lamb)
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the logos and the logos was with God and the logos was God."
The logos WAS God just like the words you are writing here are you. The logos of God is His tangible expression that reveals His wisdom, plans, and reason. God's logos was the vehicle for creation:
"By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the BREATH OF HIS MOUTH.” Ps. 33:6
You stated: "You and the rest of the world. ( Islam,Atheist,Jehovah witnesses, and non-believers) are in desperate to make Jesus into a man ( sinner). "
Jesus was flesh and blood like we are. He died like we do. God raised him from the dead because he did not deserve the death penatly because HE DID NO SIN. Death could not hold him because he had no sin to pay for! That is WHY God COULD and DID raise him from the dead to life evermore.
Thomas knew what all of the disciples and Paul knew:
"...God dwells in UNapproachable light. NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD NOR CAN SEE HIM ..." I Tim. 6:16
Thomas didn't think for one moment that GOD was standing before him! The word "theos" (Greek) or "god" (English) is not used exclusively for THE GOD. For example, Satan is the "theos" / "god" of this world. Are we to think that he is GOD because "theos" is used?
Jesus is "Lord" because God exalted him, but he is not God.
Jesus,I'll never forget what you've done for me! Jesus,I'll never forget how you set me free! Jesus,I'll never forget how you brought me out! Jesus,I'll never forget,no never!
To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb....to him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb....Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb...to him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb.....be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever!
........All hail King Jesus! All hail Immanuel! King of kings,Lord of lords,Bright Morning Star! And through all eternity we're going to praise Him! And forevermore,we will reign with Him!---Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! There is nobody like Him! It is to Him we sing! We will praise You,Lord Jesus Christ! Praise the name of Jesus!----
@Fleasfleas2 For those of us who know Him,for those of us who serve Him,we will praise our Lord and Savior forever and ever! All glory to Jesus our King!
@Fleasfleas2 thank you for stepping in and talking with him.I have tried all I can,and 'loveroflife' is in my prayers,but there is nothing more I will say.In my spirit God has led me to let him go.God bless,my brother in Christ!
"And Philip said, 'If you believe with all your heart, you may (be baptized). And he (the eunuch) answered and said, 'I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8:37
"And Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ , the Son of the Living God'. And Jesus answered and said to him, 'Blessed are you ... for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father, which is in heaven." Matt. 16:16-17
How is did the logos of God become flesh? Because Jesus spoke the words God commanded him to speak. In this way, "the logos became flesh":
“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
We KNOW that Deut. 18:18 is about Jesus because it is quoted in the NT in Acts 7:37 and Jesus testified to it in John 12:49-50
The "logos" of God is His spoken word that reveals His wisdom, plans, reason, logic. Ps 33:6, 9
John’s writings teach us that God is Light, I John 1:5. As the only Source of Light, I Tim. 6:15-16, all else merely bears the Source. Jesus is the “light of the world”, John 9:5, in that he represents the Father, Who is Light. The redeemed of God are “lights” also, Matt. 5:14, in that they are given the indwelling spirit of God that shines within, Rom. 8:11, II Cor. 4:6.
You stated, "If you don't have Jesus, you have nothing."
The Bible tells us that if we do not have Jesus, we do not have God either:
"He that believes on the Son of God has the witness in himself; he that does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he does not believe the record that GOD GAVE OF HIS SON." I John 5:10
Actually, the lie is that Jesus is God. The Bible does not teach that Jesus, the Son of God, is also God. That's ridiculous, illogical, and unbiblical. There's nothing in scripture, when context is considered in harmony with all of scripture, that teaches that the ONE GOD, CREATOR, is really "three something". There are several trinitarian interpolations that have mislead the unlearned and unstudied, such as I John 5:7, which is not in any of the original Greek manuscripts.
@Fleasfleas2 Colossians 1:16,17 For by him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth,visible and invisible,whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.All things were created through Him and for Him.And He is before all things,and in Him all things consist.
Colossians 1 teaches anything but that Jesus is God.
Colossians 1 teaches the preeminence of Jesus Christ for several reasons. That God created by or because of him, knowing that redemption was possible for all of mankind, since in God's plans the Lamb was slain from before the foundations of the world. Jesus Christ is the first born from the DEAD, meaning that he is the first person to be given immortality by God at his resurrection from the DEAD. Col. 1:18
@Fleasfleas2 I believe we are close to the end,my friend.Bible prophecy is being fulfilled at a rapid rate,and the hearts of men have grown exceedingly wicked.Mankind is ignoring God and going on with life as if He did not exist.We see people like 'loveroflife' who twist God's word,and lead people astray.Surely,Christ will come soon!
@Fleasfleas2 We have nothing to fear from these people who teach false doctrines.Some people get so worked up about them,but we have to remember a few things.#1-Jesus said they would come(Matthew 24),and #2 All we can do is present the truth of God's word-it is up to them if they want to believe!
The false doctrines that abound intertwine so that people cannot break from them without help from God's spirit.
FALSE DOCTRINES: trinity, inherent immorality of mankind, false holy days and Sabbaths, and antinomian teachings ... these abound in psuedo so-called Christianity.
People are indoctrinated with popular church dogma without really studying scripture for themselves and believe most everything that comes from the pulpit of the sun god day keeping church they attend.
Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! He's our Rock! He's our Fortress! He's our Deliverer and God,in Him we will trust! Praise the name of Jesus!
Jesus is the answer for the world today-above him there's no other,Jesus is the way! Jesus is the answer for the world today-above him there's no other,Jesus is the way......the truth and the life! Jesus is the way!
Can't stop praising His name,I just can't stop praising His name,I'm never going to stop praising His name JESUS! JESUS-He's the King of kings! JESUS-He's the Lord of my heart! JESUS! JESUS! JESUS! JESUS! Hallelujah,Jesus! Praising His name-Jesus! Hallelujah,Jesus! Praising his name! Can't stop praising His name,I just can't stop praising His name,I'm never going to stop praising His name JESUS!
N0.......the Jesus you preach is not the Jesus of the bible,or the Jesus of the disciples,or the Jesus that is coming back again.Jesus is the Son of God! God Himself,manifest in the flesh.If you do not confess Him as your Lord(God)and savior,then you will not inherit God's kingdom,O man.Not this day,not tomorrow,nor ever.
@warriorforchrist4 There is only one way to heaven,and that is by believing in Jesus! There is one way to the Father,one way to heaven and one way to salvation-JESUS!
@warriorforchrist4 ELOHIM is a plural Hebrew word,and is the name for God given in Genesis 1.Ofcourse,at that time Moses could not possibly have known about the Trinity,but the precept was still there in scripture.In fact,in Genesis 1:26 we see several plural references to God-Then God said,"Let us make man in our image,after our likeness....."
@warriorforchrist4 The early christians knew and understood this,under the excellent teaching of Paul,Peter,John and others.They understood that the man they saw live and die before their eyes was no mere man.It was God revealed in the flesh.This is the mystery of God and can only be understood as God reveals it.Otherwise one's eyes are blinded to the truth.
@loveroflife365 And in confessing Jesus as the Son of God,you must confess Him as God-if you have not done that,you are lost.I am through talking to you,since you are too stubborn and rebellious to humble yourself before God.I will pray for you and let you go-the choice in life is yours-God has warned you......
True Christians know that God is ONE, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of this One God. Peter knew this, Matt. 16:16, John knew this, I John 4:15, and Paul knew this:
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.” Eph. 1:3
“Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.” II John 3
YOURS however is straight from Rome's catechisms, devices of men. You actually sound like "oneness Pentecostal", taking the Modalist approach to the trinity ... both trinity and modalism being heresies because they deny truth that GOD is ONE PERSON, not three persons or three substances.
Nothing I have shared here is out of line with the harmony of scripture in context. Most people are in Rome and will not leave it.
@loveroflife365 Your doctrine is from hell-a doctrine of demons.You have the letter of the word,but not the spirit.You have no idea the words and blasphemy you are speaking.I pray the Lord will have mercy on you.
I'm sorry you doctrine is straight from tradition.. not scripture.
your belief system has been put to rest 1600 years ago.
your ideology is coming from the Bishop of Alexandria Arius. in which were debated and condemned at the Council of Nicea which cleared a final input of what Scripture confirmed and what it did not.
John tells us that to not believe that Jesus Christ (not God!) came in the flesh is to be "antichrist", not having either the Father or the Son, II Jn 7-9.
Trinitarianism is antichrist doctrine, according to John. God did not come in the flesh! That idea is antichrist. Jesus, the Son of God, is who came in the flesh. THIS is the doctrine of Christ - that he came in mortal flesh like we are, and died like we do. To believe this is to have the doctrine of Christ.
@loveroflife365 Maybe you haven't read John 1:14?Or perhaps you have,and you are too stubborn to repent.Your doctrine is anti-christ,I'm afraid,denying Jesus our true Lord and Savior.
Let me make it clear that I believe that Jesus Christ is exactly who the Bible says he is ... the Son of God. He is also my Lord and Savior because I believe that he gave his life for me and all of us. He willingly laid down his life ... he wasn't preprogrammed to do so ... he did it of his own accord and was perfectly obedient to God so that he did NOT qualify for the death penalty ... which is WHY God COULD raise him to life.
@loveroflife365 If you believed in Jesus,truly believed in him,you would believe his words.You would believe that He,and He alone is your salvation.If you believed He is the Son of God,then you would believe He is God.If you believed He is enough for salvation,the ONLY way to do that is by understanding that only God(Jesus)can completely bring salvation to your life.If your LORD(GOD)is not Jesus,then you are lost and dead in your sin-plain and simple.And by teaching your false doctrines....
I believe exactly what the Bible teaches about Jesus ... that he is the Son of God who came to die for the sins of mankind and did just that ... and was buried, and was raised to life by God the Father, according to the scriptures.
I believe John: "But these are written that you miht believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name." John 20:21
Jesus is the Son of God. That is what scripture teaches.
@loveroflife365 (cont)His word.According to SCRIPTURE,not me,you are on your way to hell,and your doctrine is from hell as well.Anything that leads men away from Jesus is demonic,and that is what you have done.Continue on to oblivion,if that is what you choose.God has warned you.....
@warriorforchrist4 Who does the Bible say Jesus is? The SON OF GOD. That's is what I believe. YOU BELIEVE WHAT ROME TEACHES FROM THE COUNCILS OF MEN. Who is God? THE FATHER. I Cor. 8:6 Jesus is "Lord" (master), but NOT GOD. THAT is what the Bible teaches. THAT is why I believe it. TRINITARIANISM = POLYTHEISM, HERESY, IDOLATRY plain and simple
@loveroflife365 Catholicism indoctrinates christianity plus paganism.I am in no way supportive of the Catholic church or their doctrines.In fact,I am a firm believer that the Catholic church will and is helping institute the One World Order which will eventually establish the kingdom of the anti-christ.I am a firm believer that the pope of that time will be the false prophet.I also know that Hitler and Nazi Germany were supported by the Catholic church,which helped raise him up in....
@loveroflife365 (cont)in anti-semitism.Oh,yes.i am well aware of the Catholic church,and its influence over society,past and present.I also know that the Catholic church was responsible for the killing of many christians,as Catholicism spread throughout Europe after the division of the Roman Empire into Eastern and Western Empires.The Roman Empire was a pagan worshiping Empire,until christianity became the official religion of the Empire.However,Roman Emperors began to mix old paganism with....
@loveroflife365 (cont)christianity,and the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church sprang out of that.Catholicism is pagan christianity,pure and simple.However,the doctrine of Trinity and the Diety of Jesus Christ was a doctrine that came from the early disciples,and early christianity.Where you got the info that it came from Catholicism,I don't know.But,you are reading the wrong books and authors.John 1and the book of Revelation clearly shows John's thoughts on the subject.2 Peter 1:1 show's...
@loveroflife365 (cont)Peter's thoughts,and if you want to know Paul's,read Romans 10:9,10.......if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,you will be saved.For with the heart one believes and is justified,and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.......what do you think it means to confess Jesus is Lord?It means you are confessing Him to be your God and Savior,as Peter states perfectly clear in 1 Peter 1:1.....
@loveroflife365 (cont)If you do not have Jesus in your heart,you have nothing! If you do not have Jesus in your heart,you are lost.That is not a catholic pagan doctrine-it is the doctrine of God! The gospel of Jesus Christ! There is no other! The gospel of Jesus that saves us! The gospel of Jesus that heals us! The gospel of Jesus that the disciples preached,and the gospel that Jesus taught while on earth! He is the ONLY way to salvation! He is the way,the truth and the life! ....
Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father because it is only through His blood that atonement is possible, making him our High Priest TO God (not AS God!).
warrior, what about I Timothy 2:5 don't you get?!
"For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator BETWEEN God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus." I Tim. 2:5
The mediator is NOT ALSO God.
" Now an intermediary implies more than one; but God is one." Gal 3:20
@loveroflife365 You are sadly mistaken in your doctrine.For Jesus to be completely sufficient in salvation,He would have to be God,for only God is perfect.Anything else would not have done.
@loveroflife365 (cont) No man comes to the father but by Him,for there is no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved! Those are the words of Jesus Himself-dispute Him if you want-He said it! He is the resurrection and the life! HE is one with the Father,and is God manifest in the flesh! THAT is the gospel of Jesus Christ! If you do not accept Christ into your heart to be your Lord and Savior,you are not going to heaven.Simple as that.catholicism teaches the'steps of the cross,'
The "gospel of Jesus Christ" is that he DIED, was buried, and was raised to life again by God the Father. Jesus, the last Adam, did no sin, I Peter 2:22. Therefore, he DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE PENALTY OF SIN, which is DEATH. God COULD and DID raise him back to life because of this. Death could not hold him because of this.
Therefore, God exalted him and GAVE him a name above all others. Jesus is at the right hand OF God. He is "Lord", but he is NOT GOD. I Cor 8:6
@loveroflife365 (cont)or works for salvation! But TRUE christianity teaches in salvation by grace through faith,and NOTHING ELSE! Son of God means He is one with God! He IS GOD,and the children of the Living God proclaim it loud and strong! HE will judge the quick and the dead! HE is coming on a white horse,and every eye will see Him on that day! ALL will mourn because of Him,the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end,the Prince of Peace,the ALMIGHTY!
@loveroflife365 (cont)you are leading others astray as well.You do not have God's Spirit within you,nor are you saved.That is clear enough for me-is it for you?You have turned Jesus into something He is not,and you are of your father the devil.If you do not repent then you will surely go to hell.It is no more clear than that.Keep believing your doctrine of demons,and see where you end up.God has warned you.......the choice is yours.
It is impossible to lead anyone astray by teaching clear precepts of scripture. Jesus is JUST WHO THE BIBLE SAYS HE IS ... the Son of God.
You are not my judge nor anyone's just, warrior. Jesus Christ will judge all men.
Bascially, you are stating that my agreeing with scripture that Jesus is the Son of God is a "doctrine of demons", when the Bible makes clear that that is exactly who Jesus is ... the SON OF GOD.
@loveroflife365 You always seem to have an answer for everything,don't you.If you were teaching straight out of God's word,then you would not have come up with the junk you came up with.I will say no more-the choice is yours,and apparently you have made it.It is God's word that judges,and it judges you as well as me.And,according to God's word,if you do not confess Jesus as your Lord(God)then you are not saved.Plain and simple.If you don't like it,have a little talk with God,because it is....
@loveroflife365 I have said enough to you.I have given you ample proof in scripture,but it is plain to me now you are more concerned with being right than pleasing God.You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.God has tried to lead you by the living waters,but the weary traveler prefers the desert.You will always be in my prayers.
He said, "My Father is greater than I". He also told someone not to call him "good" because only ONE is the essence of "good" and that is the FATHER, who is LIGHT, I John 1:5.
God commands that we have no other gods before Him. To honor the Son is to honor the Father, not because the Son is the Father, but because God exalted the Son and gave him a name above all other for what he did for us.
Praise the name of Jesus! We will praise the name of Jesus! With our hands and our voice we will sing and rejoice! Praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord! Praise the name of Jesus! We will praise the name of Jesus! With our hands and our voice,we will sing and rejoice! Praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord!....praise the name of Jesus,Jesus,Jesus,praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord!
@warriorforchrist4 There is nobody like our God! It's a shame loveroflife decided not to believe.Doesn't it amaze you sometimes,that we actually made it? I mean,with all the people who are lost,and are stuck in false religions,how did we make it out okay?Only by God's grace,I imagine!
@psalm964 As for loveroflife,we have prayed for him,and helped him to find the truth of God's word.Obviously he looked at it,but he still couldn't see.So sad for him,and for all those who do not know God Almighty.Hell will not be a very pleasant place-why do you think Jesus is waiting so long to return!?
@warriorforchrist4 To our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! God is not willing that any should perish! He is waiting for the lost 2 be found! That is where we come in! Glory to Yashua,Jesus Messiah!
JOHN 1:15 (John bore witness about him,and cried out,"This was he of whom I said,'He who comes after me ranks before me,because he was before me. ' ")---Jesus said before Abraham was,I was.Indeed,before creation was,John 1 says He was.He is the first and last,beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega,the Almighty!
Jesus existed prior to his earthly birth. The Bible tells us who and what he was:
“Behold, I will send My messenger (John the Baptist), and he shall prepare the way before Me: and the Lord (adoni) (the Messiah, Jesus Christ), whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD (YHVH/Adonai) of Hosts (the One God, the Father).” Malachi 3:1
I could care less about "JW doctrine" as you put it. I have nothing to do with that cult.
I DO, however, believe scripture, which is the written record of GOD that He gave of His Son, I John 5:10-14.
Malachi 3:1 is the truth. It tells that the Messiah was the MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT. We can know that Jesus had former glory with God from the gospel of John, but not AS God.
Again, warrior, Jesus DIED. That means something. That means that he is NOT GOD.
JOHN 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,and we have seen his glory,glory as of the only Son from the Father,full of grace and truth.---There are many things to learn from this scripture.#1 The Word spoken of in Jojn 1:1 was Jesus,and He became flesh and dwelt among us as a man.#2 We have seen His glory-glory refers to character-we have seen God's character! #3 The Son,who is from(or one with)the Father,and #4 Jesus is full of grace and truth!
In John 3 we see what John was talking about,about a birth that takes place apart from human birth! Jesus explains to Nicodemus the Pharisee,that unless you are born again,born of the Spirit,you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.Ye must be born again-born of God!
JOHN 1:12,13 But to all who did receive him,who believed in his name,he gave the right to become children of God,who were born,not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of a man,but of God.---To all who received Jesus,to all who believed in his name,they are now children of God! There are many who claim to be God's children,but if you do not place your faith in Jesus Christ,you are not His.Acts 4:12 says.....And there is salvation in no one else,for their is.....
There is only ONE GOD and His name is NOT "Jesus"!
The ONE GOD is the FATHER ... NOT THE SON.
warriorofchrist, why do you reject PLAIN SCRIPTURE?
"But to us there is one GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, because of whom are all things and we because of him.” I Cor. 8:6
The ONE GOD is the FATHER, NOT THE SON.
“Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.” I Jn 4:15
There is ONE GOD, the Father. He is the GOD of the first commandment. Jesus Christ is the Son of the ONE GOD. THAT is the teaching of scripture.
That Jesus is also God is the teaching of men ... namely the council of Nicea, who formed the beginnings of the trinity dogma, which metamorphosized over the centuries to the Roman Catholic catechism it is now ... to which most mainstream Protestant churches, who claim to be Christian, also embrace.
JOHN 1:11 He came to his own,and his own people did not receive him.---Who were his own people?The nation of Israel! In Genesis 15 we see the covenant God made with Abraham,making them special among the nations of the world!All through the Old Testament,we see the triumphs and failures of Israel.Yet through it all,God is faithful to his covenant with them!
JOHN 1:10 He was in the world,and the world was made through him,yet the world did not know him.----Jesus(the Living Word)was in the world,the world was MADE THROUGH HIM,and the world did not know him.The world rejected him-the disciples abandoned him at the cross,the pharisees accused him,and the people jeered him.The awesome price he paid for all humanity to be saved.
JOHN 1:9 The true light,which enlightens everyone,was coming into the world.---The Word become flesh,Jesus christ was coming into the world! The one who breathed life into the Creation was now coming into the world to save fallen humanity!
JOHN 1:8 He was not the light,but came to bear witness about the light.---John the Baptist was not the light,but John testified of the light-again,the light was Jesus Christ!
Father,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you! Jesus,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you! Spirit,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you!
There's no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved-It is Jesus! It is Jesus! There's no other name by which the lost can be found-it is Jesus! It is Jesus! Believe in Him today,He is the only way! There's no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved-it is Jesus! It is Jesus!
Blessed be the name,blessed be the name,blessed be the name of the Lord! Blessed be the name,blessed be the name,blessed be the name of the Lord! Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name of the Lord! Oh,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name of the Lord!
JOHN 1:7 He came as a witness,to bear witness about the light,that all might believe through him.---There are several interesting things about this verse to note.One is that Jesus is again mentioned as the LIGHT.We can backtrack in John 1 and see in verse 4 that the life that Jesus lived was the light of men,bringing light into this dark world.Then,in verse 5 we saw that the darkness did not overcome Jesus! Jesus was victorious over the world!
I adequately demonstrated that the FATHER and His logos (not a person) is the "light" that John writes about in John 1:1-10. (Review: John 1:10 correlates with I John 3:1 so that his ideas remain consistent throughout his writings ... both of these verses identify the FATHER as the One the world did not know.)
“Then this is the message, which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." I Jn 1:5
The vehicle for God’s message in these last days is Jesus Christ, Hebrews 1:1-2:
“GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds.”
So, Jesus is not God. Rather, he speaks for God, representing Him expressly.
“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
God put the words in Jesus mouth that He wanted Him to speak. Jesus presented the mind of God in everything he did and spoke. God’s “logos” (tangible communication, thoughts, plan) became flesh in this way. So, Jesus is not God, but represents God expressly.
It is vital to harmonize all scripture. We can know from putting all of John’s writings together that the One God sent a messenger into the world to represent Him expressly. Because Jesus Christ did and spoke only what the Father taught him, it is said by John that the “word became flesh”, John 1:14. God’s wisdom and reason and plan is seen in the actions and words of the one He sent into the world, Jesus Christ.
When hermeneutics are ignored, error is the result.
It is IDOLATRY that Jesus Christ is addressing. The greatest commandment is to love GOD with all your heart. People cannot do that without obeying the first four commands, the first of which is "have no other gods before Me". It is vital to know Who that "ME" is. As wonderful as Jesus Christ is, as our Lord and Savior and brother, he is NOT OUR GOD. To make him ALSO GOD is polytheism and IDOLATRY.
@loveroflife365 So,the only thing you have proven is nothing,once again! The Word(logos)became flesh and dwelt among us.1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God:every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ(the Word become flesh) has come in the flesh is from God....verse 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God.-the only thing you have succeeded in doing is showing you are teaching false doctrine-the spirit of discernment proves true!
What do you think that means? That he really DIDN'T die because he is really God?!
The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ bled and died. He gave his life as the life for life blood sacrifice that is a requirement of GOD for the remission of sin, Hebrews 9:22.
Poured out blood represents life, Leviticus 17:11.
The significance of the death of Christ is turned into gnostic meaninglessness by the trinity heresy of Rome.
Again, I am not a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Orthodox Jew, or part of any other cult. I simply study the Bible and follow the precepts laid out in it. The Bible does not teach many things that mainstream Christianity propound ... the trinity being the most egregious heresy of all.
Jesus Christ warns the churches in Rev. 2 of LEAVING THEIR FIRST LOVE and gives the instruction to REPENT or have their light removed (i.e., be disqualified from the first resurrection.)
@loveroflife365 So you are not any of these cults?It dioesn't matter-the doctrine you are proclaiming follows right along with them.The church is teaching falsely you say?Knowledge without wisdom and guidance is a deadly thing.That is what you have,I'm afraid.you have just enough knowledge of the word to make your teaching deadly.The spirit of the anti-christ pollutes every word you say.You should repent and turn away from your pride,and humble yourself before the Lord!
Jesus own testimony: “ … He who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from Him … I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me ..."” John 8:26
Also:
“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak….” John 12:49
@loveroflife365 So,you think John 8:26 and 12:49 deny the Trinity?Much to the contrary,they show the unique relationship between the Father and the Son!! You cannot take some scripture,and discount others.There are too many scriptures in the bible that tell of Jesus as divine and holy in nature,being God Himself.
Isaiah 11 speaks of the Messiah stating that he fears the LORD. Jesus, in PLAIN LANGUAGE, tells you:
“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." John 12:49
“ … He who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from Him … I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me ..."” John 8:26
Jesus Christ came to show Who is the only Potentate, the only One who has inherent immortality … God the Father. No other being has innate immortality other than the One God, the Father. Jesus was GIVEN this quality as the firstborn from the dead and first fruits of the resurrection. But until he was raised from the dead, the Messiah was mortal … capable of dying and did just so.
@loveroflife365 Jesus was 100% man and 100% God-the Son of Man and the Son of God!! He died,but death had no power over him!! Who else could defeat the power of death,but God himself?The answer-nobody!
Jesus was sent into the world to show God, not be God:
“… until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which in his times he shall show Who is the blessed and only Potentate, the KING of Kings, and LORD of Lords: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power ever lasting. Amen.” I Timothy 6:14-16
@loveroflife365 If you want to qoute 1 Timothy 6:14-16,then you should use a correct version.Here it is straight from the ESV-to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,which he will display at the proper time-he who is the blessed and only Sovereign,the King of kings and Lord of lords,who alone has immortality,who dwells in unapproachable light,whom no one has ever seen or can see.To him be honor and eternal dominion,Amen.
"...until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ; which in his times he shall show Who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and LORD of Lords; Who ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which NO MAN CAN APPROACH UNTO; WHOM NO MAN HATH SEEN, NOR CAN SEE: to Whom be honor and power everlasting. AMEN."
Jesus Christ is the tangible spokesperson who literally portrays the mind of God through his words and deeds. How did God’s logos “become flesh”? Moses writes of the Messiah:
“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
It is important to note that “logos” is used throughout the gospel of John and NEVER means a person.
@loveroflife365 Proof #2 John 1:9,10 The true light,which enlightens everyone,was coming into the world.He was in the world,and the world was made through him,yet the world did not know him.
@loveroflife365 Proof #3 John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,and we have seen his glory,glory as of the only Son from the Father,full of grace and truth.
However, no other place in scripture uses personal pronouns with reference to the “logos”, so using them in John 1:1-4 would be a notable exception. Earlier English translations of the Bible from the Greek (Tyndale New Testament, 1525; Miles Coverdale, 1535; Bishop’s Bible, 1568; and Geneva Bible, 1587) use “it” rather than “he” and “him”, as well as a number of modern German and French translations. These same also do not capitalize “word (logos)”.
While the personal pronouns “he” and “him” may be technically acceptable renderings of the Greek ‘autos’ and ‘houtos’, so also would be “it”. In Greek, these pronouns are gender neutral and impersonal, but in Greek the “logos” is masculine. Therefore, many have translated “autos” using the personal pronouns in keeping with the gender of the word “logos”.
So, God the Father, Who is light, is the subject of John 1:1-13. It is through His “logos” that we are able to know His wisdom, purpose, and plan. It is through His “logos” that He created all things. “Logos” is from the VERB “to speak”. We know from harmonizing the all of scripture that God SPPOKE all things into being. He ALONE is creator. He ALONE sits on the throne. See Rev 4 & 5 which shows GOD SEATED on the throne and the Lamb STANDING by the throne.
“For God, Who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.” II Cor. 4:6
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.” I John 5:20
John’s writings teach us that God is Light, I John 1:5. As the only Source of Light, I Tim. 6:15-16, all else merely bears the Source. Jesus is the “light of the world”, John 9:5, in that he represents the Father, Who is Light. The redeemed of God are “lights” also, Matt. 5:14, in that they are given the indwelling spirit of God that shines within, Rom. 8:11, II Cor. 4:6.
1st speaker sited john13 :19 that painted a picture the next verse john13 :20 tells the whole truth of the matter,we can't read verses out of context this will lead to false truths.
yackyick 1 year ago
Is it just me or is psalm964 acting just a LITTLE BIT psychotic? lol
WaitingforChrist 1 year ago
Jesus defended himself against the Jews that tried to stone him. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
NOTICE that Jesus really said, "I AM the son of God", Jesus never said, "I Am", the proof is clear!
upNyaBizznizz 1 year ago
There's room at the cross for you! There's room at the cross for you! Though millions have come,there's still room for one! There is room at the cross for yuou!
psalm964 1 year ago
psalm 100:4 Enter his gates with thanksgiving,and his courts with praise!Give thanks to him;bless his name!
psalm964 1 year ago
Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! He's our Rock! He's our Fortress! He's our Deliverer,in Him we will trust! Praise the name of Jesus!
psalm964 1 year ago
(cont)But for we who know Him,for we who are saved,for we who are children of God,there is only one truth.There is a God,and His name is Jesus! All glory to the King of kings!
psalm964 1 year ago
(cont)in the judgement,nor sinners in the congreagation of the righteous;for the Lord knows the way of the righteous,but the way of the wicked will perish...........we are blessed in the Lord as we follow after his word.we are blessed when we do not listen to wicked counsel,and those who try and drive us away from God.The teaching against the Diety of Christ was warned against time and time again by the Apostles.For the wicked,this is what they teach! For them,He was no more than a man.......
psalm964 1 year ago
Psalm 1 Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked,nor stands in the way of sinners,nor sits in the seat of scoffers;but his delight is in the law(instruction)of the Lord,and on his law he meditates day and night.He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season,and its leaf does not wither.In all that he does,he prospers.The wicked are not so,but are like chaff that the wind drives away.Therefore the wicked will not stand....
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 There is no rock but our God!
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 Amen,brother.What has been shown us is of the Holy Spirit.Unbelievers cannot possibly know,or understand.The god of this world has blinded them to the truth of God's word! The Spirit of Christ,that is who guides us! The Spirit of Christ,that is who dwells in us! Amazing to me,is that at one point the Pharisees said Jesus had demons.When people say we do not have the Holy Spirit,they are in essence saying the same of us.If Jesus suffered,we will as well! The prize is waiting!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Those who believe Jesus is GOD were given that belief by the Roman Catholic Church, not God:
Peter knew who Jesus was: "You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."
"And Jesus answered him, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven." Matt 16:16-17
Who is Jesus? the Son of God.
Peter did not believe that Jesus, the Messiah (anointed), was God. He knew that Jesus was the Son of God.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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The LORD talking uses both ME and HIM referring to the being (Christ)
"and I (YHWH) will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on ME whom they pierced. yes,they will mourn for HIM as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for HIM as one grieves for a firstborn" --Zechariah 12:10
antigovisterrorism 1 year ago
Praise God from whom all blessings flow! Praise Him all creatures here below! Praise Him above ye heavenly hosts! Praise Father,Son and Holy Ghost! Amen.----Psalm 65:1 Praise is due to you,O God,in Zion,and to you shall vows be performed.----Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born,to us a son is given;and the government shall be upon his shoulder,and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor,Mighty God,Everlasting Father,Prince of Peace.
psalm964 1 year ago
We worship You,Almighty God-Jesus-there is none like You! We worship You,O Prince of Peace,that is what we long to do! we give You praise,for You are our righteousness! We worship You,Almighty God-Jesus-there is none like You!----To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb,to Him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb,be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever!-----
psalm964 1 year ago
There is none like You,Jesus! No one else can touch my heart like You do! I can search for all eternity long,and find there is none like You!----I love You,Lord,and I lift my voice to worship You,O my soul rejoice! Take joy my King in what You hear! Let it be a sweet,sweet sound in Your ear!----My Jesus,I love Thee,I know Thou art mine! For Thee all the follies of sin I resign! My gracious Redeemer,my Savior art Thou! If ever I loved Thee,my Jesus tis now!
psalm964 1 year ago
There is only one truth-that is the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ! There is only one love-that is the love Jesus showed on the cross at calvary! There is only one way-that is through Jesus Christ! There is only one hope-salvation in His name! There is only one God-Father,Son and Holy Spirit! All glory to His name!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
You stated: "We will see in the day of judgment."
The Bible is so clear that we do not have to wait until then. It is Jesus Christ (arm of the LORD, right hand of GOD) who rules FOR GOD until all enemies are destroyed. We read that Jesus is SUBJECT to God in I Cor. 15:28.
Jesus is NOT God. Jesus is NOT equal to God. Jesus is the Son of God
We will be "joint" heirs WITH Christ. Who is the GIVER?
Believing the truth often means a paradigm shift ... too hard for most.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Yes, let's look at the context regarding Thomas seeing his risen Lord. Keep in mind that Jesus was given a glorified body, flesh and bone, by God. Thomas could see and feel the nail prints in his hands. Jesus has this same physical body as we speak. But, God is spirit. Jesus is not - because he has a physical body, though a glorified one, like we will be given also, Ph 3:21.
GOD = spirit; ON heaven's throne
Jesus = physcial flesh and bone body; AT the right hand of GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
What I am doing here is presenting clear evidence from the harmony of scripture that teaches that God is one and that this one God has a Son, who is not also the God he is the Son of.
Trinitarians are forced to sew togetjher isolated text, sometimes even using mistranslations, to try a prove a thing that is NOT IN SCRIPTURE.
Trinitarianism is not tantamount to, but IS idolatry, devising three gods to be one, which is polytheism, a common Babylonian pagan practice (heresy).
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
I quote I Timothy 6:16 primary because it is PLAIN LANGUAGE that NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD for the reason that GOD IS LIGHT and He dwells in UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT, which necessitates Him sending forth His messengers to speak for Him until all enemies are destroyed, which occurs at the end of time as we know it. Until then, he has used messengers to speak for him and writers to leave a written record of the things He would have us know. Heb. 1:1-2, I John 5:10-14, I Cor. 15:24-28.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Are we to believe that Satan offered GOD his own kingdom?!
Even Satan referred to Jesus as "Son of God" ... the demons also knew who he was. They knew he was not the GOD of heaven ... but that he was the Son of the GOD of heaven, Luke 3:4,9.
Jesus Christ = Son of GOD
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
You're not getting simple Greek.
The word "theos" (god) is NOT EXCLUSIVELY USED OF THE ONE GOD.
Example: Satan is called the "god (theos) of this world" in II Cor. 4:4. Are we to believe that because the word "god" is used there, that it is a reference to the ONE GOD that sits on the throne of heaven?
The same thing applies when we read that Thomas exclaimed, "my lord and my god". "Theos" (god) simply means "powerful being", often used to describe Greek gods.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
II John 7 when compared with I John 4:15 lets us know that the SON OF GOD is who "came in the flesh". Whoever does not confess that Jesus is the Son of God does not know God. John makes a CLEAR DISTINCTION between GOD and His Son. So, it truth, it is a deceiver who denies that the Son of God is who came in the flesh, by saying that "God came in the flesh". Whoever touts this well-worn mantra "God in the flesh" is antichrist, according to John.
TRINITARINISM = ANTICHRIST
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Jesus is NOT "Eyeh Asher Eyeh". "Eyeh" is the Self-Existant One ... GOD the Father, who ALONE is inherently immortal, i.e., "life" itself. I Timothy 6:16 in plain language tells us that ONLY ONE is IMMORTAL ... GOD.
FACT: Jesus Christ DIED.
FACT: Jesus Christ was raised to life by the ONLY ONE WHO CAN GIVE LIFE ... THE FATHER.
FACT: Jesus is called the first born from the DEAD because he is the VERY FIRST to be given IMMORTALITY by God.
Jesus is NOT "I AM".
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
I Timothy 3:16 is not "proof text" for a "trinity god". The word "godliness" is being described by things that apply to Jesus Christ. The verse is inaccurately translated in several versions of the English Bible, leading to confusion and wrong conclusions. Most trinitarians scholars admit I Timothy 3:16 contains a scribal error and do not use it to try and justify their trinitarian position.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
The accurate translation of I Timothy 3:16:
"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness, which/who was manifested in flesh, justified in the spirit, seen by angels, preached among the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up in glory."
The word "godliness" (not God) is modified by the rest of the verse, beginning with "which/who". Some translations have translated it accurately (Douay Rheims, NAB, Wycliffe, NLT, ERV) and some have not.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
NO SCRIPTURE teaches that the ONE GOD is really "three something". Those that teach false doctrine, like the trinity doctrine, perpetuate Babylon's mystery religion.
WHEN scripture is studied IN CONTEXT and IN HARMONY with all other scripture, it can be rightly divided, but only with the teaching of God's spirit to those who obey Him. I John 2:27, Acts 5:32
Most people do not practice God's ways and therefore are not given His spirit, I John 2:3-4.
TRINITY = HERESY
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Anyone fluent in Hebrew knows that Elohim can be used for ONE BEING and in that sense is a plurality of majesty.
Yes, scripture plainly tells us that GOD is ONE, Deut. 6:4
You stated re: the trinity: "We don't understand how that works. Still no excuse to deny Jesus deity or worse create G-D into mans image."
Trinitarians do exactly that, make GOD into man's image, Jesus, when GOD is clearly NOT Jesus, but is spirit. Jesus has a FLESH and BONE BODY, Luke 24:39.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
You quoted Phil. 2:11, but LEFT OFF THE LAST VERY IMPORTANT PHRASE:
"That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things in earth and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is ... (GOD? ... no) Lord, TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER." Phil. 2:11
Does Jesus being "Lord" mean that he is GOD?
No, "Lord" (kurios) means "master". As the head of the body of believers, Jesus is our example, teacher, master. He is the anointed of GOD, the Messiah.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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@Fleasfleas2
There is only ONE GOD of the first commandment ... THE FATHER.
" ... we have but one God, THE FATHER..." I Cor. 8:6
"For there is ONE GOD and one mediator between God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus." I Tim. 2:5
"Blessed be the GOD and FATHER of our Lord Jesus Christ..." Eph. 1:3
Jesus: "He that overcomes, I will make a pillar in the temple of my GOD ... I will write upon him the name of my GOD ..." Rev. 3:12
Jesus has a GOD, his Father. He is not GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
You quoted Hebrews 1:8, which comes from Psalm 45, which there is in regard to a human king, but failed to quote Hebrews 1:9:
The Father to the Son: "You have loved righteousness and hated iniquity, THEREFORE GOD, EVEN YOUR GOD, has anointed you with the oil of gladness above your fellows."
We can know that Jesus HAS A GOD ... His Father. Also, the Anointer is always GREATER than the anointed. Jesus is not God, rather he is the Son of God, Matt. 16:16.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Jesus Christ is to be honored because God exalted Him. However, Jesus is not the Creator, nor is he the GOD of the first commandment. You quoted Rev. 5:13-14, but failed to quote Rev. 4:11 pertaining to the ONE seated on the throne, who is GOD, NOT the Lamb:
"to Him that sat on the throne ... WORSHIP HIM ...Thou art worthy, O LORD, to receive glory and honor and power, for YOU have CREATED ALL THINGS." (regarding ONLY GOD, not the Lamb)
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
John 1:1 "In the beginning was the logos and the logos was with God and the logos was God."
The logos WAS God just like the words you are writing here are you. The logos of God is His tangible expression that reveals His wisdom, plans, and reason. God's logos was the vehicle for creation:
"By the word of the LORD were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the BREATH OF HIS MOUTH.” Ps. 33:6
“For He SPAKE, and it was done...” Ps. 33:9
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
You stated: "You and the rest of the world. ( Islam,Atheist,Jehovah witnesses, and non-believers) are in desperate to make Jesus into a man ( sinner). "
JESUS DID NO SIN, I Peter 2:22.
Jesus was flesh and blood like we are. He died like we do. God raised him from the dead because he did not deserve the death penatly because HE DID NO SIN. Death could not hold him because he had no sin to pay for! That is WHY God COULD and DID raise him from the dead to life evermore.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Thomas knew what all of the disciples and Paul knew:
"...God dwells in UNapproachable light. NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD NOR CAN SEE HIM ..." I Tim. 6:16
Thomas didn't think for one moment that GOD was standing before him! The word "theos" (Greek) or "god" (English) is not used exclusively for THE GOD. For example, Satan is the "theos" / "god" of this world. Are we to think that he is GOD because "theos" is used?
Jesus is "Lord" because God exalted him, but he is not God.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
Jesus,I'll never forget what you've done for me! Jesus,I'll never forget how you set me free! Jesus,I'll never forget how you brought me out! Jesus,I'll never forget,no never!
psalm964 1 year ago
I have decided to follow Jesus-I have decided to follow Jesus-I have decided to follow Jesus-no turning back! No turning back!
psalm964 1 year ago
To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb....to him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb....Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! To him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb...to him who sits on the throne and unto the Lamb.....be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! Be blessing and glory and honor and power forever!
psalm964 1 year ago
........All hail King Jesus! All hail Immanuel! King of kings,Lord of lords,Bright Morning Star! And through all eternity we're going to praise Him! And forevermore,we will reign with Him!---Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! There is nobody like Him! It is to Him we sing! We will praise You,Lord Jesus Christ! Praise the name of Jesus!----
psalm964 1 year ago
2 Peter 1:1b To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:
psalm964 1 year ago
Psalm 147:1 Praise the Lord! For it is good to sing praises to our God;for it is pleasant,and a song of praise is fitting.
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 For those of us who know Him,for those of us who serve Him,we will praise our Lord and Savior forever and ever! All glory to Jesus our King!
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 thank you for stepping in and talking with him.I have tried all I can,and 'loveroflife' is in my prayers,but there is nothing more I will say.In my spirit God has led me to let him go.God bless,my brother in Christ!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
"And Philip said, 'If you believe with all your heart, you may (be baptized). And he (the eunuch) answered and said, 'I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8:37
"And Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ , the Son of the Living God'. And Jesus answered and said to him, 'Blessed are you ... for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father, which is in heaven." Matt. 16:16-17
Who is Jesus? The Son of God
JESUS IS NOT GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
How is did the logos of God become flesh? Because Jesus spoke the words God commanded him to speak. In this way, "the logos became flesh":
“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
We KNOW that Deut. 18:18 is about Jesus because it is quoted in the NT in Acts 7:37 and Jesus testified to it in John 12:49-50
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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@Fleasfleas2
The "logos" of God is His spoken word that reveals His wisdom, plans, reason, logic. Ps 33:6, 9
John’s writings teach us that God is Light, I John 1:5. As the only Source of Light, I Tim. 6:15-16, all else merely bears the Source. Jesus is the “light of the world”, John 9:5, in that he represents the Father, Who is Light. The redeemed of God are “lights” also, Matt. 5:14, in that they are given the indwelling spirit of God that shines within, Rom. 8:11, II Cor. 4:6.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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@TheMark123536
You stated, "If you don't have Jesus, you have nothing."
The Bible tells us that if we do not have Jesus, we do not have God either:
"He that believes on the Son of God has the witness in himself; he that does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he does not believe the record that GOD GAVE OF HIS SON." I John 5:10
"No man has seen God at any time..." I John 4:12
Many have seen Jesus.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2
Actually, the lie is that Jesus is God. The Bible does not teach that Jesus, the Son of God, is also God. That's ridiculous, illogical, and unbiblical. There's nothing in scripture, when context is considered in harmony with all of scripture, that teaches that the ONE GOD, CREATOR, is really "three something". There are several trinitarian interpolations that have mislead the unlearned and unstudied, such as I John 5:7, which is not in any of the original Greek manuscripts.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 Colossians 1:16,17 For by him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth,visible and invisible,whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers.All things were created through Him and for Him.And He is before all things,and in Him all things consist.
bookofcolossians 1 year ago
@bookofcolossians
Colossians 1 teaches anything but that Jesus is God.
Colossians 1 teaches the preeminence of Jesus Christ for several reasons. That God created by or because of him, knowing that redemption was possible for all of mankind, since in God's plans the Lamb was slain from before the foundations of the world. Jesus Christ is the first born from the DEAD, meaning that he is the first person to be given immortality by God at his resurrection from the DEAD. Col. 1:18
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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Romans 10:9 if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,you will be saved.
romans4cross 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 I believe we are close to the end,my friend.Bible prophecy is being fulfilled at a rapid rate,and the hearts of men have grown exceedingly wicked.Mankind is ignoring God and going on with life as if He did not exist.We see people like 'loveroflife' who twist God's word,and lead people astray.Surely,Christ will come soon!
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 We have nothing to fear from these people who teach false doctrines.Some people get so worked up about them,but we have to remember a few things.#1-Jesus said they would come(Matthew 24),and #2 All we can do is present the truth of God's word-it is up to them if they want to believe!
psalm964 1 year ago
@psalm964
The false doctrines that abound intertwine so that people cannot break from them without help from God's spirit.
FALSE DOCTRINES: trinity, inherent immorality of mankind, false holy days and Sabbaths, and antinomian teachings ... these abound in psuedo so-called Christianity.
People are indoctrinated with popular church dogma without really studying scripture for themselves and believe most everything that comes from the pulpit of the sun god day keeping church they attend.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
Praise the name of Jesus! Praise the name of Jesus! He's our Rock! He's our Fortress! He's our Deliverer and God,in Him we will trust! Praise the name of Jesus!
psalm964 1 year ago
@Fleasfleas2 Immanuel,Immanuel,His name is called Immanuel! God with us,revealed in us! His name is called Immanuel!
psalm964 1 year ago
Jesus is the answer for the world today-above him there's no other,Jesus is the way! Jesus is the answer for the world today-above him there's no other,Jesus is the way......the truth and the life! Jesus is the way!
psalm964 1 year ago
@proverbs2wisdom Romans 8:16 The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
Can't stop praising His name,I just can't stop praising His name,I'm never going to stop praising His name JESUS! JESUS-He's the King of kings! JESUS-He's the Lord of my heart! JESUS! JESUS! JESUS! JESUS! Hallelujah,Jesus! Praising His name-Jesus! Hallelujah,Jesus! Praising his name! Can't stop praising His name,I just can't stop praising His name,I'm never going to stop praising His name JESUS!
psalm964 1 year ago
N0.......the Jesus you preach is not the Jesus of the bible,or the Jesus of the disciples,or the Jesus that is coming back again.Jesus is the Son of God! God Himself,manifest in the flesh.If you do not confess Him as your Lord(God)and savior,then you will not inherit God's kingdom,O man.Not this day,not tomorrow,nor ever.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 There is only one way to heaven,and that is by believing in Jesus! There is one way to the Father,one way to heaven and one way to salvation-JESUS!
psalm964 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 ELOHIM is a plural Hebrew word,and is the name for God given in Genesis 1.Ofcourse,at that time Moses could not possibly have known about the Trinity,but the precept was still there in scripture.In fact,in Genesis 1:26 we see several plural references to God-Then God said,"Let us make man in our image,after our likeness....."
genesisevent2 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 The early christians knew and understood this,under the excellent teaching of Paul,Peter,John and others.They understood that the man they saw live and die before their eyes was no mere man.It was God revealed in the flesh.This is the mystery of God and can only be understood as God reveals it.Otherwise one's eyes are blinded to the truth.
genesisevent2 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Here is who JOHN, who wrote the gospel John and I, II, II John, and Revelation, says WE MUST CONFESS THAT JESUS IS:
"Whosoever shall CONFESS THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God." I John 4:15
I confess that Jesus is the Son of God.
God the Father is the ONE GOD.
Jesus Christ is the Son of the ONE GOD.
THAT is what the Bible teaches.
ROME teaches a babylonian trinty god, along with other forms of sun worship.
I LEFT ROME.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 And in confessing Jesus as the Son of God,you must confess Him as God-if you have not done that,you are lost.I am through talking to you,since you are too stubborn and rebellious to humble yourself before God.I will pray for you and let you go-the choice in life is yours-God has warned you......
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
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@warriorforchrist4
"There is ONE GOD, and one mediator between God and man, the MAN Jesus Christ." I Tim. 2:5
"An intermediary implies more than one, but God is one." Gal. 3:20
Jesus, the intermediary is more than one, and is not God, because God is only ONE.
warrior, what don't you get about this VERY PLAIN SCRIPTURE?!
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
WHERE IN THE BIBLE IS THE INSTRUCTION THAT WE MUST CONFESS THAT JESUS IS GOD??!!
I have shown you several times that SCRIPTURE TEACHES that we MUST CONFESS THAT JESUS IS ...
THE SON OF GOD. I John 4:15
NOT GOD!
YOU ARE SAYING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN SCRIPTURE.
WHY?
loveroflife365 1 year ago
True Christians know that God is ONE, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of this One God. Peter knew this, Matt. 16:16, John knew this, I John 4:15, and Paul knew this:
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ.” Eph. 1:3
“Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.” II John 3
GOD = the FATHER ONLY, Deut 6:4
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 What makes you think you are a true christian?You do not even have correct doctrine.Try again.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
My doctrine is straight from scripture.
YOURS however is straight from Rome's catechisms, devices of men. You actually sound like "oneness Pentecostal", taking the Modalist approach to the trinity ... both trinity and modalism being heresies because they deny truth that GOD is ONE PERSON, not three persons or three substances.
Nothing I have shared here is out of line with the harmony of scripture in context. Most people are in Rome and will not leave it.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Your doctrine is from hell-a doctrine of demons.You have the letter of the word,but not the spirit.You have no idea the words and blasphemy you are speaking.I pray the Lord will have mercy on you.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365
I'm sorry you doctrine is straight from tradition.. not scripture.
your belief system has been put to rest 1600 years ago.
your ideology is coming from the Bishop of Alexandria Arius. in which were debated and condemned at the Council of Nicea which cleared a final input of what Scripture confirmed and what it did not.
theembracedofgod 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Many false prophets have come in His name-I am talking to one!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
John tells us that to not believe that Jesus Christ (not God!) came in the flesh is to be "antichrist", not having either the Father or the Son, II Jn 7-9.
Trinitarianism is antichrist doctrine, according to John. God did not come in the flesh! That idea is antichrist. Jesus, the Son of God, is who came in the flesh. THIS is the doctrine of Christ - that he came in mortal flesh like we are, and died like we do. To believe this is to have the doctrine of Christ.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Maybe you haven't read John 1:14?Or perhaps you have,and you are too stubborn to repent.Your doctrine is anti-christ,I'm afraid,denying Jesus our true Lord and Savior.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Let me make it clear that I believe that Jesus Christ is exactly who the Bible says he is ... the Son of God. He is also my Lord and Savior because I believe that he gave his life for me and all of us. He willingly laid down his life ... he wasn't preprogrammed to do so ... he did it of his own accord and was perfectly obedient to God so that he did NOT qualify for the death penalty ... which is WHY God COULD raise him to life.
My GOD is the FATHER, the ONE GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 If you believed in Jesus,truly believed in him,you would believe his words.You would believe that He,and He alone is your salvation.If you believed He is the Son of God,then you would believe He is God.If you believed He is enough for salvation,the ONLY way to do that is by understanding that only God(Jesus)can completely bring salvation to your life.If your LORD(GOD)is not Jesus,then you are lost and dead in your sin-plain and simple.And by teaching your false doctrines....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
I believe exactly what the Bible teaches about Jesus ... that he is the Son of God who came to die for the sins of mankind and did just that ... and was buried, and was raised to life by God the Father, according to the scriptures.
I believe John: "But these are written that you miht believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that believing you might have life through his name." John 20:21
Jesus is the Son of God. That is what scripture teaches.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)His word.According to SCRIPTURE,not me,you are on your way to hell,and your doctrine is from hell as well.Anything that leads men away from Jesus is demonic,and that is what you have done.Continue on to oblivion,if that is what you choose.God has warned you.....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Catholicism indoctrinates christianity plus paganism.I am in no way supportive of the Catholic church or their doctrines.In fact,I am a firm believer that the Catholic church will and is helping institute the One World Order which will eventually establish the kingdom of the anti-christ.I am a firm believer that the pope of that time will be the false prophet.I also know that Hitler and Nazi Germany were supported by the Catholic church,which helped raise him up in....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)in anti-semitism.Oh,yes.i am well aware of the Catholic church,and its influence over society,past and present.I also know that the Catholic church was responsible for the killing of many christians,as Catholicism spread throughout Europe after the division of the Roman Empire into Eastern and Western Empires.The Roman Empire was a pagan worshiping Empire,until christianity became the official religion of the Empire.However,Roman Emperors began to mix old paganism with....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)christianity,and the doctrines of the Roman Catholic church sprang out of that.Catholicism is pagan christianity,pure and simple.However,the doctrine of Trinity and the Diety of Jesus Christ was a doctrine that came from the early disciples,and early christianity.Where you got the info that it came from Catholicism,I don't know.But,you are reading the wrong books and authors.John 1and the book of Revelation clearly shows John's thoughts on the subject.2 Peter 1:1 show's...
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)Peter's thoughts,and if you want to know Paul's,read Romans 10:9,10.......if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead,you will be saved.For with the heart one believes and is justified,and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.......what do you think it means to confess Jesus is Lord?It means you are confessing Him to be your God and Savior,as Peter states perfectly clear in 1 Peter 1:1.....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)If you do not have Jesus in your heart,you have nothing! If you do not have Jesus in your heart,you are lost.That is not a catholic pagan doctrine-it is the doctrine of God! The gospel of Jesus Christ! There is no other! The gospel of Jesus that saves us! The gospel of Jesus that heals us! The gospel of Jesus that the disciples preached,and the gospel that Jesus taught while on earth! He is the ONLY way to salvation! He is the way,the truth and the life! ....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father because it is only through His blood that atonement is possible, making him our High Priest TO God (not AS God!).
warrior, what about I Timothy 2:5 don't you get?!
"For there is ONE GOD, and one mediator BETWEEN God and man, the MAN Christ Jesus." I Tim. 2:5
The mediator is NOT ALSO God.
" Now an intermediary implies more than one; but God is one." Gal 3:20
Jesus, the mediator, is not the ONE GOD.
NO TRINITY
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 You are sadly mistaken in your doctrine.For Jesus to be completely sufficient in salvation,He would have to be God,for only God is perfect.Anything else would not have done.
genesisevent2 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont) No man comes to the father but by Him,for there is no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved! Those are the words of Jesus Himself-dispute Him if you want-He said it! He is the resurrection and the life! HE is one with the Father,and is God manifest in the flesh! THAT is the gospel of Jesus Christ! If you do not accept Christ into your heart to be your Lord and Savior,you are not going to heaven.Simple as that.catholicism teaches the'steps of the cross,'
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
The "gospel of Jesus Christ" is that he DIED, was buried, and was raised to life again by God the Father. Jesus, the last Adam, did no sin, I Peter 2:22. Therefore, he DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THE PENALTY OF SIN, which is DEATH. God COULD and DID raise him back to life because of this. Death could not hold him because of this.
Therefore, God exalted him and GAVE him a name above all others. Jesus is at the right hand OF God. He is "Lord", but he is NOT GOD. I Cor 8:6
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)or works for salvation! But TRUE christianity teaches in salvation by grace through faith,and NOTHING ELSE! Son of God means He is one with God! He IS GOD,and the children of the Living God proclaim it loud and strong! HE will judge the quick and the dead! HE is coming on a white horse,and every eye will see Him on that day! ALL will mourn because of Him,the Alpha and the Omega the beginning and the end,the Prince of Peace,the ALMIGHTY!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 (cont)you are leading others astray as well.You do not have God's Spirit within you,nor are you saved.That is clear enough for me-is it for you?You have turned Jesus into something He is not,and you are of your father the devil.If you do not repent then you will surely go to hell.It is no more clear than that.Keep believing your doctrine of demons,and see where you end up.God has warned you.......the choice is yours.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
It is impossible to lead anyone astray by teaching clear precepts of scripture. Jesus is JUST WHO THE BIBLE SAYS HE IS ... the Son of God.
You are not my judge nor anyone's just, warrior. Jesus Christ will judge all men.
Bascially, you are stating that my agreeing with scripture that Jesus is the Son of God is a "doctrine of demons", when the Bible makes clear that that is exactly who Jesus is ... the SON OF GOD.
Why are YOU believing the doctrines of men?
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 You always seem to have an answer for everything,don't you.If you were teaching straight out of God's word,then you would not have come up with the junk you came up with.I will say no more-the choice is yours,and apparently you have made it.It is God's word that judges,and it judges you as well as me.And,according to God's word,if you do not confess Jesus as your Lord(God)then you are not saved.Plain and simple.If you don't like it,have a little talk with God,because it is....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 I have said enough to you.I have given you ample proof in scripture,but it is plain to me now you are more concerned with being right than pleasing God.You can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink.God has tried to lead you by the living waters,but the weary traveler prefers the desert.You will always be in my prayers.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 The enemy prowls like a roaring lion-searching for the weak!
2corinthians10456 1 year ago
@loveroflife365
since you know everything could you explain why so many people worshiped Jesus and was acknowledged as good?
theembracedofgod 1 year ago
@theembracedofgod
Why do you not believe Jesus' own words?
He said, "My Father is greater than I". He also told someone not to call him "good" because only ONE is the essence of "good" and that is the FATHER, who is LIGHT, I John 1:5.
God commands that we have no other gods before Him. To honor the Son is to honor the Father, not because the Son is the Father, but because God exalted the Son and gave him a name above all other for what he did for us.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
Psalm 47:6 Sing praises to God,sing praises! Sing praises to our King,sing praises!
psalm964 1 year ago
Praise the name of Jesus! We will praise the name of Jesus! With our hands and our voice we will sing and rejoice! Praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord! Praise the name of Jesus! We will praise the name of Jesus! With our hands and our voice,we will sing and rejoice! Praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord!....praise the name of Jesus,Jesus,Jesus,praise the name of Jesus,Jesus our Lord!
psalm964 1 year ago
We will forever praise You,Lord Jesus! We will serve You and love you for all eternity! Glory to Your name!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 There is nobody like our God! It's a shame loveroflife decided not to believe.Doesn't it amaze you sometimes,that we actually made it? I mean,with all the people who are lost,and are stuck in false religions,how did we make it out okay?Only by God's grace,I imagine!
psalm964 1 year ago
@psalm964 It is only by God's grace,brother.ONLY by grace through faith! If God had not found us,where would we be?Don't even want to think about it!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@psalm964 As for loveroflife,we have prayed for him,and helped him to find the truth of God's word.Obviously he looked at it,but he still couldn't see.So sad for him,and for all those who do not know God Almighty.Hell will not be a very pleasant place-why do you think Jesus is waiting so long to return!?
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4 To our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,be blessing and glory and honor and power forever! God is not willing that any should perish! He is waiting for the lost 2 be found! That is where we come in! Glory to Yashua,Jesus Messiah!
revelationofjesus 1 year ago
JOHN 1:15 (John bore witness about him,and cried out,"This was he of whom I said,'He who comes after me ranks before me,because he was before me. ' ")---Jesus said before Abraham was,I was.Indeed,before creation was,John 1 says He was.He is the first and last,beginning and the end the Alpha and Omega,the Almighty!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus existed prior to his earthly birth. The Bible tells us who and what he was:
“Behold, I will send My messenger (John the Baptist), and he shall prepare the way before Me: and the Lord (adoni) (the Messiah, Jesus Christ), whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD (YHVH/Adonai) of Hosts (the One God, the Father).” Malachi 3:1
Jesus = former angelic servant of God
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 eeesh-truly JW doctrine.Almost nakes me want to find a garbage can.....excuse me.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
I could care less about "JW doctrine" as you put it. I have nothing to do with that cult.
I DO, however, believe scripture, which is the written record of GOD that He gave of His Son, I John 5:10-14.
Malachi 3:1 is the truth. It tells that the Messiah was the MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT. We can know that Jesus had former glory with God from the gospel of John, but not AS God.
Again, warrior, Jesus DIED. That means something. That means that he is NOT GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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@loveroflife365 You know nothing about what you are talking about.You have enough knowledge of the scripture to get yourself lost.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,and we have seen his glory,glory as of the only Son from the Father,full of grace and truth.---There are many things to learn from this scripture.#1 The Word spoken of in Jojn 1:1 was Jesus,and He became flesh and dwelt among us as a man.#2 We have seen His glory-glory refers to character-we have seen God's character! #3 The Son,who is from(or one with)the Father,and #4 Jesus is full of grace and truth!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
In John 3 we see what John was talking about,about a birth that takes place apart from human birth! Jesus explains to Nicodemus the Pharisee,that unless you are born again,born of the Spirit,you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.Ye must be born again-born of God!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
....(cont)no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."In verse 11,we see the name Peter spoke of-the name of Jesus!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:12,13 But to all who did receive him,who believed in his name,he gave the right to become children of God,who were born,not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of a man,but of God.---To all who received Jesus,to all who believed in his name,they are now children of God! There are many who claim to be God's children,but if you do not place your faith in Jesus Christ,you are not His.Acts 4:12 says.....And there is salvation in no one else,for their is.....
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
There is only one God,and his name is Jesus!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
There is only ONE GOD and His name is NOT "Jesus"!
The ONE GOD is the FATHER ... NOT THE SON.
warriorofchrist, why do you reject PLAIN SCRIPTURE?
"But to us there is one GOD, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, because of whom are all things and we because of him.” I Cor. 8:6
The ONE GOD is the FATHER, NOT THE SON.
“Whosoever shall confess that JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.” I Jn 4:15
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Jesus is God!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@proverbs2wisdom
There is ONE GOD, the Father. He is the GOD of the first commandment. Jesus Christ is the Son of the ONE GOD. THAT is the teaching of scripture.
That Jesus is also God is the teaching of men ... namely the council of Nicea, who formed the beginnings of the trinity dogma, which metamorphosized over the centuries to the Roman Catholic catechism it is now ... to which most mainstream Protestant churches, who claim to be Christian, also embrace.
TRINITY = HERESY
loveroflife365 1 year ago
JOHN 1:12 But to all who did receive him,who believed in his name,he gave the right to be called children of God,---
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:11 He came to his own,and his own people did not receive him.---Who were his own people?The nation of Israel! In Genesis 15 we see the covenant God made with Abraham,making them special among the nations of the world!All through the Old Testament,we see the triumphs and failures of Israel.Yet through it all,God is faithful to his covenant with them!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:10 He was in the world,and the world was made through him,yet the world did not know him.----Jesus(the Living Word)was in the world,the world was MADE THROUGH HIM,and the world did not know him.The world rejected him-the disciples abandoned him at the cross,the pharisees accused him,and the people jeered him.The awesome price he paid for all humanity to be saved.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:9 The true light,which enlightens everyone,was coming into the world.---The Word become flesh,Jesus christ was coming into the world! The one who breathed life into the Creation was now coming into the world to save fallen humanity!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
JOHN 1:8 He was not the light,but came to bear witness about the light.---John the Baptist was not the light,but John testified of the light-again,the light was Jesus Christ!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
Father,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you! Jesus,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you! Spirit,we adore you,lay our life before you,how we love you!
psalm964 1 year ago
There's no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved-It is Jesus! It is Jesus! There's no other name by which the lost can be found-it is Jesus! It is Jesus! Believe in Him today,He is the only way! There's no other name given under heaven by which a man can be saved-it is Jesus! It is Jesus!
psalm964 1 year ago
Blessed be the name,blessed be the name,blessed be the name of the Lord! Blessed be the name,blessed be the name,blessed be the name of the Lord! Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name of the Lord! Oh,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name,Jesus is the name of the Lord!
psalm964 1 year ago
JOHN 1:7 He came as a witness,to bear witness about the light,that all might believe through him.---There are several interesting things about this verse to note.One is that Jesus is again mentioned as the LIGHT.We can backtrack in John 1 and see in verse 4 that the life that Jesus lived was the light of men,bringing light into this dark world.Then,in verse 5 we saw that the darkness did not overcome Jesus! Jesus was victorious over the world!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
(cont)Secondly,we see that he came,'so all might believe through him'.Who is'him'?It is the light that he came to testify of-Jesus Christ!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
I adequately demonstrated that the FATHER and His logos (not a person) is the "light" that John writes about in John 1:1-10. (Review: John 1:10 correlates with I John 3:1 so that his ideas remain consistent throughout his writings ... both of these verses identify the FATHER as the One the world did not know.)
“Then this is the message, which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all." I Jn 1:5
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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The vehicle for God’s message in these last days is Jesus Christ, Hebrews 1:1-2:
“GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds.”
So, Jesus is not God. Rather, he speaks for God, representing Him expressly.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
God put the words in Jesus mouth that He wanted Him to speak. Jesus presented the mind of God in everything he did and spoke. God’s “logos” (tangible communication, thoughts, plan) became flesh in this way. So, Jesus is not God, but represents God expressly.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
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It is vital to harmonize all scripture. We can know from putting all of John’s writings together that the One God sent a messenger into the world to represent Him expressly. Because Jesus Christ did and spoke only what the Father taught him, it is said by John that the “word became flesh”, John 1:14. God’s wisdom and reason and plan is seen in the actions and words of the one He sent into the world, Jesus Christ.
When hermeneutics are ignored, error is the result.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
It is IDOLATRY that Jesus Christ is addressing. The greatest commandment is to love GOD with all your heart. People cannot do that without obeying the first four commands, the first of which is "have no other gods before Me". It is vital to know Who that "ME" is. As wonderful as Jesus Christ is, as our Lord and Savior and brother, he is NOT OUR GOD. To make him ALSO GOD is polytheism and IDOLATRY.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 So,the only thing you have proven is nothing,once again! The Word(logos)became flesh and dwelt among us.1 John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God:every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ(the Word become flesh) has come in the flesh is from God....verse 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God.-the only thing you have succeeded in doing is showing you are teaching false doctrine-the spirit of discernment proves true!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus Christ DIED.
What do you think that means? That he really DIDN'T die because he is really God?!
The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ bled and died. He gave his life as the life for life blood sacrifice that is a requirement of GOD for the remission of sin, Hebrews 9:22.
Poured out blood represents life, Leviticus 17:11.
The significance of the death of Christ is turned into gnostic meaninglessness by the trinity heresy of Rome.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Again, I am not a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Orthodox Jew, or part of any other cult. I simply study the Bible and follow the precepts laid out in it. The Bible does not teach many things that mainstream Christianity propound ... the trinity being the most egregious heresy of all.
Jesus Christ warns the churches in Rev. 2 of LEAVING THEIR FIRST LOVE and gives the instruction to REPENT or have their light removed (i.e., be disqualified from the first resurrection.)
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 So you are not any of these cults?It dioesn't matter-the doctrine you are proclaiming follows right along with them.The church is teaching falsely you say?Knowledge without wisdom and guidance is a deadly thing.That is what you have,I'm afraid.you have just enough knowledge of the word to make your teaching deadly.The spirit of the anti-christ pollutes every word you say.You should repent and turn away from your pride,and humble yourself before the Lord!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus own testimony: “ … He who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from Him … I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me ..."” John 8:26
Also:
“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak….” John 12:49
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 So,you think John 8:26 and 12:49 deny the Trinity?Much to the contrary,they show the unique relationship between the Father and the Son!! You cannot take some scripture,and discount others.There are too many scriptures in the bible that tell of Jesus as divine and holy in nature,being God Himself.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Isaiah 11 speaks of the Messiah stating that he fears the LORD. Jesus, in PLAIN LANGUAGE, tells you:
“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." John 12:49
“ … He who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from Him … I do nothing on my own authority, but speak just as the Father taught me ..."” John 8:26
Why do you not believe Jesus?
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus Christ came to show Who is the only Potentate, the only One who has inherent immortality … God the Father. No other being has innate immortality other than the One God, the Father. Jesus was GIVEN this quality as the firstborn from the dead and first fruits of the resurrection. But until he was raised from the dead, the Messiah was mortal … capable of dying and did just so.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Jesus was 100% man and 100% God-the Son of Man and the Son of God!! He died,but death had no power over him!! Who else could defeat the power of death,but God himself?The answer-nobody!
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus was sent into the world to show God, not be God:
“… until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which in his times he shall show Who is the blessed and only Potentate, the KING of Kings, and LORD of Lords: Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power ever lasting. Amen.” I Timothy 6:14-16
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 If you want to qoute 1 Timothy 6:14-16,then you should use a correct version.Here it is straight from the ESV-to keep the commandment unstained and free from reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,which he will display at the proper time-he who is the blessed and only Sovereign,the King of kings and Lord of lords,who alone has immortality,who dwells in unapproachable light,whom no one has ever seen or can see.To him be honor and eternal dominion,Amen.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
I Timothy 6:14-16 could not be MORE CLEAR. KJV:
"...until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ; which in his times he shall show Who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and LORD of Lords; Who ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the light which NO MAN CAN APPROACH UNTO; WHOM NO MAN HATH SEEN, NOR CAN SEE: to Whom be honor and power everlasting. AMEN."
NO MAN HAS EVER SEEN GOD.
Many people have seen Jesus.
JESUS IS NOT GOD.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Jesus Christ is the tangible spokesperson who literally portrays the mind of God through his words and deeds. How did God’s logos “become flesh”? Moses writes of the Messiah:
“I will raise them up a prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deut. 18:18
It is important to note that “logos” is used throughout the gospel of John and NEVER means a person.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Logos-the written word,became flesh-God became flesh.Proof #1-John 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Proof #2 John 1:9,10 The true light,which enlightens everyone,was coming into the world.He was in the world,and the world was made through him,yet the world did not know him.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@loveroflife365 Proof #3 John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,and we have seen his glory,glory as of the only Son from the Father,full of grace and truth.
warriorforchrist4 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
However, no other place in scripture uses personal pronouns with reference to the “logos”, so using them in John 1:1-4 would be a notable exception. Earlier English translations of the Bible from the Greek (Tyndale New Testament, 1525; Miles Coverdale, 1535; Bishop’s Bible, 1568; and Geneva Bible, 1587) use “it” rather than “he” and “him”, as well as a number of modern German and French translations. These same also do not capitalize “word (logos)”.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
While the personal pronouns “he” and “him” may be technically acceptable renderings of the Greek ‘autos’ and ‘houtos’, so also would be “it”. In Greek, these pronouns are gender neutral and impersonal, but in Greek the “logos” is masculine. Therefore, many have translated “autos” using the personal pronouns in keeping with the gender of the word “logos”.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
In the beginning God SAID, “Let there be light”… Gen. 1
In the beginning was the word … John 1
God SPOKE and it stood fast … Ps 33:9
By the BREATH OF HIS MOUTH were all things created … Ps 33:6
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
So, God the Father, Who is light, is the subject of John 1:1-13. It is through His “logos” that we are able to know His wisdom, purpose, and plan. It is through His “logos” that He created all things. “Logos” is from the VERB “to speak”. We know from harmonizing the all of scripture that God SPPOKE all things into being. He ALONE is creator. He ALONE sits on the throne. See Rev 4 & 5 which shows GOD SEATED on the throne and the Lamb STANDING by the throne.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
“For God, Who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.” II Cor. 4:6
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.” I John 5:20
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
John’s writings teach us that God is Light, I John 1:5. As the only Source of Light, I Tim. 6:15-16, all else merely bears the Source. Jesus is the “light of the world”, John 9:5, in that he represents the Father, Who is Light. The redeemed of God are “lights” also, Matt. 5:14, in that they are given the indwelling spirit of God that shines within, Rom. 8:11, II Cor. 4:6.
loveroflife365 1 year ago
@warriorforchrist4
Who is the “light” that John speaks of? The “light” that John speaks of is God the Father, who is “light”:
“And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the light, that all men through it might believe.
That was the true light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.” John 1:5-9
loveroflife365 1 year ago