the problem with Fleming,is she very often brakes the line when she" interprets" ,she pulls certain words disturbing the legato,something Renata never does. as far as i know,Fleming only does this with Italian opera.She gives straus and schubert the line they deserve but gulps andthrets through say the ave maria in ottelo.something tebaldi would never do.
Let me be frank... when I first Tebaldi's Mimi, I thought it was the best, but, after I began to understand the text, story, etc. a little better, whenever I hear Tebaldi sing Mimi, I can't be convinced that she's a nice, unambitious 20-year-old girl. Quite honestly, I prefer de los Angeles's, Freni's, and Callas's (for her supreme analytical interpretation).
dugbin: Do you know what a beautiful vibrato is ?If you are a Callas fan you should remain silent about her vibrato and her high notes because are harrowing, very bad
People, people!!!! What's the problem? You're fighting about Freni and Tebaldi? The 2 greatest italian soprano of our time??? Both divine, both different, and we are lucky to have them. If you want to argue, then argue about horrible, offensive, present day singers like Fleming, Gheorghiu, and the rest. Brava Renata, Brava Mirella !!!!
I quite agree with the first half of your statement, but take strong exception at your despising Gheorghiu, or Fleming, for that matter. May I kindly ask what is wrong with them...or with you?
You must have either a hearing system that we, mortals, were not blessed with, or so vast and deep an encyclopedic musical culture that you climb to heights of perception denied to the mere music lover. Whatever the case, you would be doing great service to the common man by pointing out the irreparable faults of, say Gheorghiu, so that we may knowingly avoid the pitfall of falling in love with her beautiful voice. Teach us, please!
keep cool, orbazzano. you are talking about an absolute queen of the opera. Recognized worldwide just for the perfection of the instrument which God gave her. Respect, please.
I heard both live. Orbazzono let me tell you that Tebaldi was more exiting than Freni, until 1960 ,then she indeed had problems with the aguti and also the voice became harsher. But in the theater I never heard such a full-bodied clear sound again from anyone, and I have seen them all
La voce non si misura a chili...la Tebaldi era meno espressiva di un elenco telefonico, e nonostante il volume, di certo superiore a quello della divina Mirella, aveva vistosissime difficoltà tecniche. Ne sono prova lampate i numerosissimi acuti calanti presi a stento con orribili portamenti.
Again, before to speak of the Great Tebaldi you must wash your mouth, ragazzino.Tebaldi possessed one of the greatest and most PERFECT soprano voices on history.A huge and perfect spinto voice.Her high notes are HUGE and perfect "perfetissimo", enormous and ravishingly beautiful fortissimo, fabulous slancio and squillo and perfect italian portamenti
Io non mi devo sciacquare la bocca per niente, avrò 19 anni e sarò un ragazzino come dice lei ma le orecchie le ho anch'io. Che Renata Tebaldi avesse in certi ruoli difficoltà tecniche è palese, e non sono il solo a dirlo. Ascolti la sua Tosca (peraltro piena di gridacci veristi) e sarà chiaro anche a lei.
the problem with Fleming,is she very often brakes the line when she" interprets" ,she pulls certain words disturbing the legato,something Renata never does. as far as i know,Fleming only does this with Italian opera.She gives straus and schubert the line they deserve but gulps andthrets through say the ave maria in ottelo.something tebaldi would never do.
TheValdoro 23 hours ago in playlist Mix di YouTube relativo a Renata Tebaldi
I really LOVE her version! Really, really!
kanamechan86 5 years ago
Let me be frank... when I first Tebaldi's Mimi, I thought it was the best, but, after I began to understand the text, story, etc. a little better, whenever I hear Tebaldi sing Mimi, I can't be convinced that she's a nice, unambitious 20-year-old girl. Quite honestly, I prefer de los Angeles's, Freni's, and Callas's (for her supreme analytical interpretation).
VivaCallas 5 years ago
Her vibrato sounds heavy... I prefer Callas' version of this aria... Callas vibrato sounds more natural.
dugbin 5 years ago
dugbin: Do you know what a beautiful vibrato is ?If you are a Callas fan you should remain silent about her vibrato and her high notes because are harrowing, very bad
potrobsas 5 years ago
potrobsas, you should remain silent period.
BondoBondoBondo 5 years ago
It sounds so easy, that is why it is so great.
Rich and powerful voice with a beautiful tone, poise,
and perfect diction as usual. (also so feminine)
michaud1 5 years ago
People, people!!!! What's the problem? You're fighting about Freni and Tebaldi? The 2 greatest italian soprano of our time??? Both divine, both different, and we are lucky to have them. If you want to argue, then argue about horrible, offensive, present day singers like Fleming, Gheorghiu, and the rest. Brava Renata, Brava Mirella !!!!
Zerlin735 5 years ago
I quite agree with the first half of your statement, but take strong exception at your despising Gheorghiu, or Fleming, for that matter. May I kindly ask what is wrong with them...or with you?
JJFVM 5 years ago
What's wrong with them is that they cannot sing. Would you like to hear more?
Zerlin735 5 years ago
Zerlin735
You must have either a hearing system that we, mortals, were not blessed with, or so vast and deep an encyclopedic musical culture that you climb to heights of perception denied to the mere music lover. Whatever the case, you would be doing great service to the common man by pointing out the irreparable faults of, say Gheorghiu, so that we may knowingly avoid the pitfall of falling in love with her beautiful voice. Teach us, please!
JJFVM 5 years ago
keep cool, orbazzano. you are talking about an absolute queen of the opera. Recognized worldwide just for the perfection of the instrument which God gave her. Respect, please.
adremoid 5 years ago
You are right mrrk. The greatest Mimi.
A sumptuous voice, rich and pure. Perfect diction.
michaud1 5 years ago
Renata...what a beauty! The angels must be happy having her there!
operasmart 5 years ago
I agree with mrrk What a voice - So poised and rich, powerful and well controlled.
michaud1 5 years ago
I heard both live. Orbazzono let me tell you that Tebaldi was more exiting than Freni, until 1960 ,then she indeed had problems with the aguti and also the voice became harsher. But in the theater I never heard such a full-bodied clear sound again from anyone, and I have seen them all
heath21cliff 5 years ago
You're 24 and you heard Tebaldi in the theatre?? Not possible.
Zerlin735 5 years ago
Tebaldi sings this aria beautifully, so poised.
Rich in tone and clarity, Freni is not as good as Tebaldi. Tebaldi's voice is more natural and powerful.
michaud1 5 years ago
Mediocre Mimì la Mimì della Tebaldi, soprattutto se messa vicino alla Mimì della Freni che è stata, è e sarà la più grande Mimì di tutti i tempi!
Orbazzano 5 years ago
La Mimì de Mirellina (because the term La ,is too big for her) is a tiny mosquito and without soul, vicino alla Mimì della grandiosa Renata Tebaldi
potrobsas 5 years ago
La voce non si misura a chili...la Tebaldi era meno espressiva di un elenco telefonico, e nonostante il volume, di certo superiore a quello della divina Mirella, aveva vistosissime difficoltà tecniche. Ne sono prova lampate i numerosissimi acuti calanti presi a stento con orribili portamenti.
Orbazzano 5 years ago
Again, before to speak of the Great Tebaldi you must wash your mouth, ragazzino.Tebaldi possessed one of the greatest and most PERFECT soprano voices on history.A huge and perfect spinto voice.Her high notes are HUGE and perfect "perfetissimo", enormous and ravishingly beautiful fortissimo, fabulous slancio and squillo and perfect italian portamenti
potrobsas 5 years ago
Io non mi devo sciacquare la bocca per niente, avrò 19 anni e sarò un ragazzino come dice lei ma le orecchie le ho anch'io. Che Renata Tebaldi avesse in certi ruoli difficoltà tecniche è palese, e non sono il solo a dirlo. Ascolti la sua Tosca (peraltro piena di gridacci veristi) e sarà chiaro anche a lei.
Orbazzano 5 years ago
Your problem is you say NO accurate things
potrobsas 5 years ago
Comunque Renata Tebaldi affermò in un'intervista che Mirella Freni era l'ultimo grande soprano del '900. Almeno alla sua amata Renata crede?
Orbazzano 5 years ago
the greatest ? do you really think so ?
Johnny1206 5 years ago
The greatest Mimi, ever. What a voice.
mrrk 5 years ago