It is alwasy such a pleasure to see practiced and skilled Senseis performing Kata and Kumite. You don't have to practice the same style to tell the quality of the strikes and blocks. Very good performance.
Matsubayashiryu Sensei Makishi performing Kusanku Kata, assisted by Taira, Shinjo sensei with simple bunkai interpetation.close-in restraints and imobilizations, hanka ( alternative) stikes, takedowns, kamaes for next attackers..Look at the Pinans for more specific oyo( kata techniques) that vary in the Kusanku kata, also some Naihanchi grappling, Nage Waza, sacrafice ,escapes,avoidances..mostly hidden but can be worked with various flow drills...all the more reason to practice kata in the dojo
Bankai vary from style to style for obvious reasons (centuries since they were created, passing it down thru the years, the influences of different masters, etc.). Some styles interpret the move as a right crescent kick, others the left back kick, and others both. All bunkai is valuable, they give you different options for mental practice. Every combat situation is different, therefore it is very useful to see and think of different applications when practicing kata.
aca hay un error clasico, en matsubyashi, el bunkai se hace a maxima potencia, y algunos incluso hacenalgo que se llama bunekai libre que hace que el alumno se vea obligado a defenderce de cualquier tecnica, pero aqui en el video se trata de una demostracion , es por eso que no se hace fullpower y parece mas una teatralizacion, pero no lo es, queria aclararlo para que nuestra escuela no se vea marcada con errores que no comete, saludos y resivo cualquier consulta, gracias
Nagamine Shoshin en su libro "la essencia del Karate de Okinawan " afirma que no habian applicaciones de los katas hasta el 1950, y que ademas de todas las teorias niuna parece ser aceptable. Ademas otros senseis como Anko Itosu, Uechi Kanbun, ... los que aprendieron los katas desde China (Fuzou) ni conocean las aplicaziones ni la insegnavan a sus estudiantes. Es deir que despues del 1950, los practicantes empezaron a buscar aplicaciones de los katas, cambiando el kata, creando estilos. ...
Las applicaciones cambiaron cuando el karate se comenzo a ensenar en las escuelas en Okinawa y Japon porque las applicaciones originales eran consideradas inapropiadas para ensenar a ninos. Algunos maestros de aquellos tiempos decidieron no divulgar las applicaciones viejas y decian que no las habia, pero si habian applicaciones en el Tode antiguo. Las katas se practicaban como si fueran un baile folklorico para que nadie reconociera las tecnicas.
Yes, I agree with Emotionumist. This is not TRUE bunkai - and I say this in defense of these fine masters and the beautiful deadly kata they are demonstrating. Not that they need my help.
I also agree, but this is the way Shoshin teaches it to students. He did not teach the acual application until one became a master of the basics, kind of a waste.
The bunkai is more of a theatrical performance of blocks and punches - that fortunately/unfortunately happens in all styles of karate. I find in order to understand the true application of the kata I have to practise it regularly and for many times. One has to be open to reception of the application. Once you do understand the application though, you come full circle and would never want to use it on any person. Then a good way to teach the kata to new people becomes blocks and punches again.
yes this bunkai is a fake, all karate kata bunkais with blocking and punching are totally fakes. Morover no deadly stuff in katas, too much mangas and movies are distorting the reality of karate.
kata is for training technique, movement, breathing according to movement, focus, and discipline. so they are far from useless. many kata also contain concepts.
if you watch all katas, you can easily recognize same movements performed with different stacnes in different katas! You have to read the great karate myth, moreover kushanku is a sai kata. Moreover no one knows why you start from one technique, following we have the others, each tech. has its stance and its poupose and many other questions unsolved! But the common reply is "you have to train hard to discover, ... only someone at master level can understand or again that is what the master says
yeah. its the same with different martial arts styles. all striking arts are doing the same techniques found in other arts, just in a slightly different way. you have to find what works for you and use it. if its a whole system, awesome. its its parts of different systems, so be it. its always good to have a base though, so stick to the kata you like best!
"have to find what works for you and use it" is a very wrong way to intend martial art. This is more real in karate and kung fu, because are based on forms. But Forms are not ntended for kicking, punchin and striking or blocking.
Boxe, Muhai, grappling sistem, ju jitsu, Brazilian Ju Jitsu, wrestlers, Judo doesn't have forms! Moreover what the pourpose in creating a form free to be changed, modiied or what else, and again forms that befor 1950 nobody knows or teach or learn application.
I was talking about techniques, not kata in the bit about using what works. Judo and Jujutsu did have kata. I believe judo kata were cut for more randori practice in modern time. Yi chuan, a chinese internal style, has no forms. I know what forms are intended for, and thats for training. You can't learn to fight from a kata, only from understanding how to fight yourself. I.e. studying the subject yourself and from a teacher who is knowledgeable about real fights.
Kushanku is NOT a sai kata. And the self-defense applications of kata are traditionally hidden, so no, you cannot easily recognize the movements unless you have been taught the bunkai. What looks like a block might be a strike, what looks like a jump might be a throw, etc.
"Bunkai" or interpretation of hidden kata techniques are very diverse, even for the same kata. Much of the original bunkai was lost/obscurred once it began to be taught in the public schools in Japan. Now, the bunkai is very dependant on the individual school so the number of "other applications" is huge. Invisioning different applications while practicing kata is desirable because it opens up many real life possibilities and trains you for different possibilities.
It is alwasy such a pleasure to see practiced and skilled Senseis performing Kata and Kumite. You don't have to practice the same style to tell the quality of the strikes and blocks. Very good performance.
GoJuRyu09 10 months ago
Nice performance
karatekidmiyagi 1 year ago
Makishi can generate some great power, very nice man. I heard he had a stroke, does anyone know.
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
Matsubayashiryu Sensei Makishi performing Kusanku Kata, assisted by Taira, Shinjo sensei with simple bunkai interpetation.close-in restraints and imobilizations, hanka ( alternative) stikes, takedowns, kamaes for next attackers..Look at the Pinans for more specific oyo( kata techniques) that vary in the Kusanku kata, also some Naihanchi grappling, Nage Waza, sacrafice ,escapes,avoidances..mostly hidden but can be worked with various flow drills...all the more reason to practice kata in the dojo
karateusa1 2 years ago
Taira Sensei and Tamaki assisting Makishi Sensei. Not Shinjo Sensei.
21132867 2 years ago
@21132867 Thank You for the clarification
karateusa1 2 years ago
I enjoyed this. Thank you!
GreatScottAshley 2 years ago
I´d never seen this back kick in other styles at 2:21.
retrodarth 2 years ago
Bankai vary from style to style for obvious reasons (centuries since they were created, passing it down thru the years, the influences of different masters, etc.). Some styles interpret the move as a right crescent kick, others the left back kick, and others both. All bunkai is valuable, they give you different options for mental practice. Every combat situation is different, therefore it is very useful to see and think of different applications when practicing kata.
joeykarateka 2 years ago
Nice kihon bunkai of the kata
aiko4321 2 years ago
aca hay un error clasico, en matsubyashi, el bunkai se hace a maxima potencia, y algunos incluso hacenalgo que se llama bunekai libre que hace que el alumno se vea obligado a defenderce de cualquier tecnica, pero aqui en el video se trata de una demostracion , es por eso que no se hace fullpower y parece mas una teatralizacion, pero no lo es, queria aclararlo para que nuestra escuela no se vea marcada con errores que no comete, saludos y resivo cualquier consulta, gracias
altomapache 2 years ago
Nagamine Shoshin en su libro "la essencia del Karate de Okinawan " afirma que no habian applicaciones de los katas hasta el 1950, y que ademas de todas las teorias niuna parece ser aceptable. Ademas otros senseis como Anko Itosu, Uechi Kanbun, ... los que aprendieron los katas desde China (Fuzou) ni conocean las aplicaziones ni la insegnavan a sus estudiantes. Es deir que despues del 1950, los practicantes empezaron a buscar aplicaciones de los katas, cambiando el kata, creando estilos. ...
varva79 2 years ago
Las applicaciones cambiaron cuando el karate se comenzo a ensenar en las escuelas en Okinawa y Japon porque las applicaciones originales eran consideradas inapropiadas para ensenar a ninos. Algunos maestros de aquellos tiempos decidieron no divulgar las applicaciones viejas y decian que no las habia, pero si habian applicaciones en el Tode antiguo. Las katas se practicaban como si fueran un baile folklorico para que nadie reconociera las tecnicas.
joeykarateka 2 years ago
Yes, I agree with Emotionumist. This is not TRUE bunkai - and I say this in defense of these fine masters and the beautiful deadly kata they are demonstrating. Not that they need my help.
Koryuhoka 2 years ago
I also agree, but this is the way Shoshin teaches it to students. He did not teach the acual application until one became a master of the basics, kind of a waste.
jiggahippo 2 years ago
The bunkai is more of a theatrical performance of blocks and punches - that fortunately/unfortunately happens in all styles of karate. I find in order to understand the true application of the kata I have to practise it regularly and for many times. One has to be open to reception of the application. Once you do understand the application though, you come full circle and would never want to use it on any person. Then a good way to teach the kata to new people becomes blocks and punches again.
emotionumist 2 years ago
yes this bunkai is a fake, all karate kata bunkais with blocking and punching are totally fakes. Morover no deadly stuff in katas, too much mangas and movies are distorting the reality of karate.
varva79 2 years ago
kata is for training technique, movement, breathing according to movement, focus, and discipline. so they are far from useless. many kata also contain concepts.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
if you watch all katas, you can easily recognize same movements performed with different stacnes in different katas! You have to read the great karate myth, moreover kushanku is a sai kata. Moreover no one knows why you start from one technique, following we have the others, each tech. has its stance and its poupose and many other questions unsolved! But the common reply is "you have to train hard to discover, ... only someone at master level can understand or again that is what the master says
varva79 2 years ago
yeah. its the same with different martial arts styles. all striking arts are doing the same techniques found in other arts, just in a slightly different way. you have to find what works for you and use it. if its a whole system, awesome. its its parts of different systems, so be it. its always good to have a base though, so stick to the kata you like best!
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
"have to find what works for you and use it" is a very wrong way to intend martial art. This is more real in karate and kung fu, because are based on forms. But Forms are not ntended for kicking, punchin and striking or blocking.
Boxe, Muhai, grappling sistem, ju jitsu, Brazilian Ju Jitsu, wrestlers, Judo doesn't have forms! Moreover what the pourpose in creating a form free to be changed, modiied or what else, and again forms that befor 1950 nobody knows or teach or learn application.
varva79 2 years ago
I was talking about techniques, not kata in the bit about using what works. Judo and Jujutsu did have kata. I believe judo kata were cut for more randori practice in modern time. Yi chuan, a chinese internal style, has no forms. I know what forms are intended for, and thats for training. You can't learn to fight from a kata, only from understanding how to fight yourself. I.e. studying the subject yourself and from a teacher who is knowledgeable about real fights.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
Many do know the application of kata and many teach it. You need to find a different teacher.
joeykarateka 2 years ago
Kushanku is NOT a sai kata. And the self-defense applications of kata are traditionally hidden, so no, you cannot easily recognize the movements unless you have been taught the bunkai. What looks like a block might be a strike, what looks like a jump might be a throw, etc.
joeykarateka 2 years ago
This was crazy! I loved that kata and the way it was performed! I hope I get to learn it...some day.
YautjaElder14 2 years ago
Nice video. Thanks!
thankful2one 3 years ago
BTW, the performer is Makishi sensei, the man on the left is Taira sensei and the grey haired man on right is Tamaki sensei..
uminchu7th 3 years ago
This is the demonstration "way" but there are other applications much better practiced in the Matsubayashi Honbu dojo.
Thanks for the video..
uminchu7th 3 years ago
I would like to know more about other applications, it is "Inside knowldgement"?
congi 3 years ago
"Bunkai" or interpretation of hidden kata techniques are very diverse, even for the same kata. Much of the original bunkai was lost/obscurred once it began to be taught in the public schools in Japan. Now, the bunkai is very dependant on the individual school so the number of "other applications" is huge. Invisioning different applications while practicing kata is desirable because it opens up many real life possibilities and trains you for different possibilities.
Joseratc 3 years ago