Yes, this animation is correct, and surely the trampoline analogy is wrong. In trampoline analogy, how could be the earth be 3d and the space time in which earth is be 2d? that is completely illogical. But in this method, the grid of space is 3d so it is the actual one. And i also have a conclusion that if gravity bents the space time fabric, then in 3d, gravity compresses both space and time.
Our understanding of gravity is seriously flawed, of course our definition is "correct" to our understanding and beliefs, but that's because we made it that way. There's 100 things we're missing about "gravity" and it's fairly obvious it seems.
@BananaWalter3rd Correct, gravity is a logjam of particles between 'masses' which cause those same mass type particles moving by to go around the masses. The strike upon the sum of all round particles in this action slightly pushes the largest (mostly) together . Those largest house the atom from the outside.
@DirtyDirtyButthole You are now seeing the world full of invisible elastic strings that go through each other and connect every single object you see and don't see. Most of them are thin and don't offer any pull but there are bigger threads pulling everything down to the center of the earth. I cannot un-see this!!! It's so beautiful!
@StillUp2Date a black hole will have different dynamics because the spinning and event horizon it would be harder to simulate and visualize, it deffinitly would be interesting.
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG @ samzurick*dot*com contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers". THANKS!!
we like to think that mass causes gravity. i think this sort of thinking is wrong. i imagine it would be more accurate to say that space-time warping causes mass and we call the space-time warping gravity. so gravity causes mass, not mass causes gravity. there are particles that warp space time or space time warping causes particles to form that identity. its hard to say, but rigid thoughts will simply limit what we can understand.
I wish they would represent trampoline theory in this kind of form...showing 3-dimensional objects on a two dimensional surface which "bends" is a bit inaccurate, is it not?
@7150285 It is not completely empty, but consists of a hard vacuum containing a low density of particles: predominantly a plasma of hydrogen and helium, as well as electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, and neutrinos. Theoretically, it also contains dark matter and dark energy. (wikipedia Outer Space.)
@7150285 Scientist Like Nassim Haramein wrote a paper on The Schwarzschild Proton, where the mass inside a proton is = to the density of the vacuum ....something like the ultimate quantum entanglement of all protons through the vacuum fluctuation. other Scientist say that there is no matter as such and the observer collapse the wave funciton so a particle like a photon could be matter or a wave. I think that when will stop looking for something will left with nothing.
@AlienScientistFan Also to the nothing there would have to be a spot in the universe that was 0 Kelvin and the lowest is like .002 kelvin due to background radiation from the big bang.
@AlienScientistFan 1. Based on the orientation of solar systems and galaxies (i.e., on a plane), I'm thinking there is some kind of polarity to gravity. Is that in the current theories somewhere? 2. So, the "photons" that reach my eye from the stars in the sky don't really travel all that way, right? It is a wave disturbance carried along through that mess of fields/particles/neutrinos/particles in the vacuum foam. Am I right?
@AlienScientistFan i am not a physicist..but i think in principle a mass in absolutely dead space will warp the spacetime fabric around it...i try think of it as non-instantaneous potential field??
@7150285 It For a long time scientists like tried to figure out whether space is a something or just a nothing. The current consensus is that space and time are inseparable entities, forming a spacetime which definitely is a something. Even if there was no matter or energy in space at all, spacetime would still be a something.
@7150285 Our current understanding of modern physics suggests that there are 10 or 26 dimensions in space, not just three.
Put it this way... If there is nothing in the universe, no matter, no energy, nothing, just empty space... Nothing except for you in your spacesuit... If you start spinning, do you feel your hands being pulled outwards by the so-called centrifugal force? How do you determine whether you're spinning or not if there is nothing you are spinning relative to?
In other words, if there is nothing relative to which you are spinning, can you be spinning at all? Or if you are traveling in empty space at constant speed, how can you determine whether you are moving? Are you moving if there is nothing in relation to which to be moving??
This was the question phycisists were unable to answer for centuries. Modern physics, however, says that spacetime is definitely a something, not just nothingness. So even in empty spacetime, you'd still be spinning.
So, to answer your original question, "how can space be bent if there is nothing left there to be bent?"
If there really is nothing to bend, then that nothingness cannot be bent. But the question is set up wrong because spacetime is not nothing. Even empty spacetime is something, a fabric of the cosmos, if you will. And therefore it can be bent, twisted, streched and pinched.
@7150285 The string theory equations have sensible flat space solutions with both 10 or 26 spatial dimensions depending on whether we are talking about superstring theory and the M-theory or bosonic string theory and the Polyakov equation.
@7150285 In a way yes. It isn't matter as we know it but it certainly does have properties that can be attested to being a "thing". If you really want to blow your mind, consider that in a completely "empty" vacuum virtual particles continuously pop in and out of existence, annihilating with each other so soon after they are made that they can't be said to even exist at all. It is possible to get something from nothing and possibly even be the origin of our universe.
@DamienZshadow Define the word "define"... a "thing" is something that exist of that we can study doesn't matter if it's abstract or not. "Nothing" is just nothing... if u don't understand than i guess there's really no way to define it
@7150285 Define: To state or set forth the meaning of a word. Dude, relax, I'm trying to answer your question because there are many different uses and interpretations of the word "thing" and "nothing". So if your constraints for a "thing" have properties that can be studied than yes, empty space does indeed have things in it. These things cannot be discerned or studied directly but certainly can be studied indirectly by the effects they have on matter which we can study directly.
@AlienScientistFan yeah, this things clearly look like field lines like in magnetism and electricity; but those things go in and outward not just inward;
@bbphnix I first created a toroid shape mesh with cubes wireframe and some cloth properties and then i run a gravity emmiter like colition detection object this is the outer lines object from the top view e3dai.com/Layout03.png
This is pretty good and a marvelous rendering of the fundamental process that takes place in time and space and it's short circuiting. Of course, the most wonderful thing about it is the provocative thoughts it brings to mind. The Nassim Haramein Galaxy Field expressions dwarf this but they absorb all your thinking power. I'm better one fundamental concept at a time.
Yes, this animation is correct, and surely the trampoline analogy is wrong. In trampoline analogy, how could be the earth be 3d and the space time in which earth is be 2d? that is completely illogical. But in this method, the grid of space is 3d so it is the actual one. And i also have a conclusion that if gravity bents the space time fabric, then in 3d, gravity compresses both space and time.
sreeramavarmarajapc 2 weeks ago
Our understanding of gravity is seriously flawed, of course our definition is "correct" to our understanding and beliefs, but that's because we made it that way. There's 100 things we're missing about "gravity" and it's fairly obvious it seems.
BananaWalter3rd 1 month ago
@BananaWalter3rd Correct, gravity is a logjam of particles between 'masses' which cause those same mass type particles moving by to go around the masses. The strike upon the sum of all round particles in this action slightly pushes the largest (mostly) together . Those largest house the atom from the outside.
mikefromspace 1 month ago
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I really wonder, how would this animations behave, if the sides of the cubes have a lenght of a planck-length.
eddybrox 1 month ago
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eddybrox 1 month ago
this is the map to nowhere !!! ive got a map to nowhere ... i use it often to go there ~
DirtyDirtyButthole 2 months ago
finally someone has got it right !!! #HALLUCINATE !
DirtyDirtyButthole 2 months ago
@DirtyDirtyButthole You are now seeing the world full of invisible elastic strings that go through each other and connect every single object you see and don't see. Most of them are thin and don't offer any pull but there are bigger threads pulling everything down to the center of the earth. I cannot un-see this!!! It's so beautiful!
DamienZshadow 1 month ago
Is the first thing a singularity? Because the gravity maximum of our planet is on its surface, in the middle of it there is no more pull!
1aMattes 2 months ago
brilliant thanks
joeyxl3456 2 months ago
flower of life spotted
cjl85uk 2 months ago
Nice animation, could you do this for a black hole?
StillUp2Date 2 months ago 5
@StillUp2Date a black hole will have different dynamics because the spinning and event horizon it would be harder to simulate and visualize, it deffinitly would be interesting.
AlienScientistFan 2 months ago
thank you everybody for the comments and views.
AlienScientistFan 3 months ago
You can see the Matrix can't you?
2SeeriusMusic 3 months ago
An actual STARGATE/PORTAL-THING was caught on film in New Mexico. The footage can be found within the short-film entitled "SUDDEN PORTHOLE", which is parked at the PROJECT CAMELOT YouTube page (it's under the George Noory video).
I'm not selling anything…I'm just trying to spread the word about the unseen-dimensions we find ourselves embedded in.
My BLOG @ samzurick*dot*com contains peripheral data regarding the movie and is where I reply to the "debunkers". THANKS!!
peopledick 3 months ago
we like to think that mass causes gravity. i think this sort of thinking is wrong. i imagine it would be more accurate to say that space-time warping causes mass and we call the space-time warping gravity. so gravity causes mass, not mass causes gravity. there are particles that warp space time or space time warping causes particles to form that identity. its hard to say, but rigid thoughts will simply limit what we can understand.
greycloud24 3 months ago
if that's the earth, why not add a moon to it?
forinner 4 months ago
قال تعالى: {وَالسَّمَاءِ ذَاتِ الْحُبُكِ} [الذاريات: 7]ـ
(6) By the heaven full of pathways, (7)
erer1212erer 5 months ago
i think the qeuton is not how gravty looks its more about how ot works and what caus it so this is meanless
msms47 5 months ago
complicated, but I understand that more than the trampoline theory, is possible to add a sphere to the animation?
pfzzzer 5 months ago
complicated, but I understand that more than the trampoline theory
pfzzzer 5 months ago
I wish they would represent trampoline theory in this kind of form...showing 3-dimensional objects on a two dimensional surface which "bends" is a bit inaccurate, is it not?
TheRationalist76 7 months ago
i dont see how space can be bend if there's nothing left there to be bend
7150285 7 months ago
@7150285 It is not completely empty, but consists of a hard vacuum containing a low density of particles: predominantly a plasma of hydrogen and helium, as well as electromagnetic radiation, magnetic fields, and neutrinos. Theoretically, it also contains dark matter and dark energy. (wikipedia Outer Space.)
AlienScientistFan 7 months ago
@AlienScientistFan oh, so is there location is space where's there's absolutely nothing??... my guess is no
7150285 7 months ago
@7150285 Scientist Like Nassim Haramein wrote a paper on The Schwarzschild Proton, where the mass inside a proton is = to the density of the vacuum ....something like the ultimate quantum entanglement of all protons through the vacuum fluctuation. other Scientist say that there is no matter as such and the observer collapse the wave funciton so a particle like a photon could be matter or a wave. I think that when will stop looking for something will left with nothing.
AlienScientistFan 7 months ago 2
@AlienScientistFan Also to the nothing there would have to be a spot in the universe that was 0 Kelvin and the lowest is like .002 kelvin due to background radiation from the big bang.
leinad580 4 months ago
@7150285 Inbetween galaxies?
Neptutron 6 months ago
@Neptutron no
7150285 6 months ago
@AlienScientistFan 1. Based on the orientation of solar systems and galaxies (i.e., on a plane), I'm thinking there is some kind of polarity to gravity. Is that in the current theories somewhere? 2. So, the "photons" that reach my eye from the stars in the sky don't really travel all that way, right? It is a wave disturbance carried along through that mess of fields/particles/neutrinos/particles in the vacuum foam. Am I right?
mathstudent76 5 months ago
@AlienScientistFan i am not a physicist..but i think in principle a mass in absolutely dead space will warp the spacetime fabric around it...i try think of it as non-instantaneous potential field??
Sameh90 2 months ago
@7150285 It For a long time scientists like tried to figure out whether space is a something or just a nothing. The current consensus is that space and time are inseparable entities, forming a spacetime which definitely is a something. Even if there was no matter or energy in space at all, spacetime would still be a something.
TOIJALANABC 7 months ago
@TOIJALANABC well, space most be something since space have 3 dimensions XYZ...if space is absolutely thing then it wouldn't have 3 dimensions right?
7150285 7 months ago
@7150285 Our current understanding of modern physics suggests that there are 10 or 26 dimensions in space, not just three.
Put it this way... If there is nothing in the universe, no matter, no energy, nothing, just empty space... Nothing except for you in your spacesuit... If you start spinning, do you feel your hands being pulled outwards by the so-called centrifugal force? How do you determine whether you're spinning or not if there is nothing you are spinning relative to?
TOIJALANABC 7 months ago
In other words, if there is nothing relative to which you are spinning, can you be spinning at all? Or if you are traveling in empty space at constant speed, how can you determine whether you are moving? Are you moving if there is nothing in relation to which to be moving??
This was the question phycisists were unable to answer for centuries. Modern physics, however, says that spacetime is definitely a something, not just nothingness. So even in empty spacetime, you'd still be spinning.
TOIJALANABC 7 months ago
So, to answer your original question, "how can space be bent if there is nothing left there to be bent?"
If there really is nothing to bend, then that nothingness cannot be bent. But the question is set up wrong because spacetime is not nothing. Even empty spacetime is something, a fabric of the cosmos, if you will. And therefore it can be bent, twisted, streched and pinched.
TOIJALANABC 7 months ago
@TOIJALANABC who knows, but so for we're only up to 11 dimensions (10 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time) M-theory and the string theory.
7150285 7 months ago
@7150285 The string theory equations have sensible flat space solutions with both 10 or 26 spatial dimensions depending on whether we are talking about superstring theory and the M-theory or bosonic string theory and the Polyakov equation.
TOIJALANABC 7 months ago
@TOIJALANABC so space is everything, thats why is has dimensions
/watch?v=Bvpv2VfRIaE
7150285 6 months ago
@7150285 Sorry I can't cure stupid.
Deuterstomia 4 months ago
@Deuterstomia derp. Nobody asked for ur opinion
7150285 4 months ago
@7150285 Space itself bends. Crazy but true.
mariJUANAMOvies 3 months ago
@mariJUANAMOvies so that mean space isn't just nothing but IS something...
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 In a way yes. It isn't matter as we know it but it certainly does have properties that can be attested to being a "thing". If you really want to blow your mind, consider that in a completely "empty" vacuum virtual particles continuously pop in and out of existence, annihilating with each other so soon after they are made that they can't be said to even exist at all. It is possible to get something from nothing and possibly even be the origin of our universe.
DamienZshadow 3 months ago
@DamienZshadow then there's no ABSOLUTE nothing in empty space..
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 Define something and nothing. Because in a way, yes.
DamienZshadow 3 months ago
@DamienZshadow something is something nothing is nothing
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 Um...you can't define a term with the term itself. What is a "thing" to you and I'll tell you.
DamienZshadow 3 months ago
@DamienZshadow Define the word "define"... a "thing" is something that exist of that we can study doesn't matter if it's abstract or not. "Nothing" is just nothing... if u don't understand than i guess there's really no way to define it
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 Define: To state or set forth the meaning of a word. Dude, relax, I'm trying to answer your question because there are many different uses and interpretations of the word "thing" and "nothing". So if your constraints for a "thing" have properties that can be studied than yes, empty space does indeed have things in it. These things cannot be discerned or studied directly but certainly can be studied indirectly by the effects they have on matter which we can study directly.
DamienZshadow 3 months ago
@DamienZshadow of course empty space is something... that's why we're able to move in 3 dimensional ways in empty space
7150285 3 months ago
@7150285 Yes, that's right.
DamienZshadow 3 months ago
whoa?! looks like gravity is a smooth light cone in all directions. thank you.
wavyinfinity 8 months ago
kick ass! this is much better than that silly trampoline diagram...
wavyinfinity 8 months ago
@wavyinfinity Yes, it always got on my nerves how they put 3d objects above that 2d surface.
meteor4163 7 months ago
looks nice. Good background music choice
ThisIsNotReal22 10 months ago
may the gravity force be with you always. thanks for the views add fav sub and comments are wellcome
AlienScientistFan 10 months ago
@AlienScientistFan yeah, this things clearly look like field lines like in magnetism and electricity; but those things go in and outward not just inward;
so answer this: how do you make them go outward?
bbphnix 6 months ago
@bbphnix I first created a toroid shape mesh with cubes wireframe and some cloth properties and then i run a gravity emmiter like colition detection object this is the outer lines object from the top view e3dai.com/Layout03.png
AlienScientistFan 6 months ago
@AlienScientistFan no, I meant in real life, not animation; how do you make a gravity field with the field lines going outward not inward?
bbphnix 6 months ago
@bbphnix The day you figure that out you will make millions. That would basically be antigravity. The opposite of gravitational forces.
aadamcycle 6 months ago
This is pretty good and a marvelous rendering of the fundamental process that takes place in time and space and it's short circuiting. Of course, the most wonderful thing about it is the provocative thoughts it brings to mind. The Nassim Haramein Galaxy Field expressions dwarf this but they absorb all your thinking power. I'm better one fundamental concept at a time.
Spitfireseven 11 months ago
fake and gay
HalfEatenDimSim 11 months ago
there are 11 dimensions
7150285 1 year ago
sweet!
TheUFOeffect 1 year ago
cool
Scarecrow0089 1 year ago