She was actually much younger in real world, she was only 15ish or so, so she probably died when she was only 17. She was just a young girl, I think her voice speaking while they are being killed is so sad! And lady rochford had gone insane!! Idk how people think it's stupid she cried, imagine being killed like that? It's hard to compose yourself! Tbh I hated her and thought she was a bitch to lady Mary especially but she was a child who was foolish and in love with a silly foolish boy (Thomas)
The date and birthyear of katherine is unknown, but she died 18 - 24 years old. She couldn't have been as young as 14 when she married henry, they were only married for about a year and a half.
@DJHastenz European Americans in the United States brought that type of senseless murder to the Americas. Killing Native Americans men, women and children and burning their camps putting them on reservations. Hanging and burning African slaves men, women and yes children in front of crowds of white women, men and yes children. Yes I would say the Europeans blood runs cold like a snake.
She is so immature!! Real queens that are to go to execution do not pee!! She needs to just pray for herself and her neck then die!!:) Just like Anne boleyn
@MsBrizuela1 She was seventeen when she married Henry! Not even an adult! They were married a year and a half so she would be about 18/19 when she died! All of this was a massive shock to her. And then when she was about to die, and she pees, this shows how young and nervous she really was. In my opinion, she held herself well, far more better than Lady Rochford, who was older than her! Okay, she wasn't like Anne, but Anne was older and knew she was innocent and she showed this.
@JessicaLouiseMusic She was not seventeen. She was much younger. She was 14-15 years old. Just a child. Mary Tudor, Henry's first daughter, and her stepdaughter, was much older than her, she was around 17.
Henry married a little girl, much younger than his own daughter.
@MsBrizuela1 There is no historic recollection of her peeing. It was actually stated that she was really calm and collected. This is dramatization made for TV, not the actual event
I'm not really condoning Henry's behaviour, but you've got to think about the time period. I help out with younger years at schools and they are taught that Henry was a bad man. Personally, think this is wrong because if you think about the impact he had on our country, it's amazing! I mean, yes, his relationships weren't that good but saying that the decisions that he made for them were bad isn't entirely true. 500 years ago, this was actually considered a normal punishment. Think of the time!
Please everybody - stop posting so much sentimental nonsense.
Catherine Howard was a bigamist and a fool who did not deserve to hold a high position such as Queen which in those days meant far more than dressing up,living in a palace and having people bow and scrape to you!
She was technically married to Francis Dereham and by hiding this fact and going through a marriage ceremony with the king she committed an offence which could have undermined his reign.
Whoa, whoa, and Henry was not a bigamist? He was married to both Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn for four months (January to May 1533). Catherine was never married to Dereham, as sexual intercourse does not constitute a marital union, and neither does an engagement. And how could his reign possibly be undermined by a cheating twenty year old wife?
and btw its not fair,henry had so much womens and he didn't had to die,and with al that stuff of the bible doesn't the bible sad you have to be faithfull both of you not only the wife
@gellybambino Yeap, they should have but, then again, I think they decided 2 have Jane Boleyn leaving this world before our "Rose without a thorn" did, so that we felt more... sympathetic (?) towards Kate.
There are sooooooo many things in the show that have been changed from "completely" 2 "just a little bit" in orther 2 seduce us, the audiences. Unfortunately, I have no more space here 2 list some of those changes... But they're a lot!
@gellybambino Yeap, they should have but, then again, I think they decided 2 have Jane Boleyn leaving this world before our "Rose without a thorn" did, so that we felt more... sympathetic (?) towards Kate.
There are sooooooo many things in the show that have been changed from "completely" 2 "just a little bit" in orther 2 seduce us, the audiences. Unfortunately, I have no more space here 2 list some of those changes... But they're a lot!
-or anyone else for that matter. Katherine may have reasoned her affair with the arguement that it may produce children, therfore providing security in her marriage. The same may well have been so for her cousin, Anne Boleyn. But her guilt of course is still open for interpretation.
In a time where women were encouraged to drink while pregnant, where mental illnesses of today were personality quirks or hanging offences, where children were beaten as part of a healthy upbringing, and when girls aged 11 or 12 were considered ripe for marriage, how can anyone honestly expect men or women of that time to be sane or even intelligent by the standards of today? Between his age and health problems, and probablly some STDs, Henry could have never had children with Katherine-
@melloslash Although it would be easy to say ,all these ladies made a deal with the devil,and they should've avoided meeting that swine of a Henry. Circumstances often dictate otherwise,therefore we should pity them.
If you see the punishments.. with those people around it; yelling and laughing... i really gonne think that they were crazy in that time. ( and yes yes yes I know it's a "TV serie") But in real they did such a thing. And most of people were innocent...
@needabloodyname Uhm.. what's wrong.. you can't accept my other comment? So you react on this one or what? Let's see... maybe if you were in that time they maybe also punished you like that.. even if you were innocent? Is that also illogical and unfair or is that just to weird to think of? :) ow!! yes.. I see.. it's totally normal ;) Great!
@needabloodyname So you now saiying that it's normal to have these punishments? If they cut you fckng dick offfff is that normal or illogical? 500 years ago or not, it still happends in few lands of Afrika and other parts of the world. These human don't live in a "time" like us. It doesn't matther if is now or in the past. It is illogical and unfair if there are people who acting like: is normal. And he is right; The King was also a slut not only katherine.
historically she was dancing with her ladies when they came to arrest her.. their words... there is no more time to dance... I think the director used some artistic license....
The truth is that she didnt say those words, it was what the ambassador Chapuys "apparently" spread among people, he wasnt there even. According to a "real story" Catherine just said sorry and asked people to pray for her and that the king was too gracious to her,etc. But i believe, that she trully loved the king and that it was never proved that she had a carnal knowledge,etc. HENRY NEVER DESERVED ANY OF HIS WIVES!!!!
My god...I never liked her in the show (not because of her affair but because of her treatment towards Princess Mary and obnoxious behavior) but for her to see Culpepper's head...That is just cruel. I do hope the real Katherine did not see such a sight before her death. Rest in peace.
i dont think she cried? Didn't they say she didnt? oh well, its tv so i guess they added some stuff to make it interesting it cant be completely accurate.
why are all the women behaeded? I Thought women when executed by burning on the stake. Was it because Henry had some mercy and granted them a quick death?
@femkeanders It depended on the crime. I believe for treason the punichment was suppsed to be 'hung drawn and quartered' In england however women would be burned at the stake instead. Beheading, especially with a sword was considered a more 'honourable' way to die and as such was normally carried out for nobles or as the case may be queens.
Her dancing sequence was shown during an earlier episode. Her and her ladies in waiting were learning the dane with a person who seemed to be a choreographer of the court.
Its the episode during the early Culpeper meetings.
i love how everytime there is adultery, when the men are killed it's like "YAY!" and when it's the women's turn it's "we'll pray for you sweet lady"...like wtf?
@Caerdrys Well they likely did it that way around because it's more dramatic, it seems all the worse in making it seem like Katherine had to watch Rochford go first. Also the episode pretty much ended right after this so if they had done it the right way it would have ended on Lady Rochford being killed, though she's been a character in the series for a while she wasn't the focus of this it kinda needed to close on Katherine being killed, her leaning in the blood added to the scene.
@FellowTownsman thats your opinion but katherine howard is and wil always be my favorite queen.
i think she wanted to be queen because of the dresses and gifts she'd recieve but i think if she didn't have that choice of being queen, she would have stayed where she was. She got kinda forced into court by her uncle, she didn't really have her say. Don't blame Katheryne, blame the parents/carers.
@JessicaLouiseMusic I'm afraid i do blame her, i also blame the unworthiness of Henry. But she should of been very aware of her duty and responsibilities of not just a 15th century English wife, but English queen as well. The carers/parents could only bring her up so far, but like us all there's a time she has to be responsible for herself.
who knows if she really danced knowing what was waiting for her...I rather think it is an image a metaphore of the Queen's last dance...In my view :-)
@JessicaLouiseMusic The poor child did the one thing she loved the most before death (an real life she was but a child bless her), let me ask you what would you do if you knew you was about to die?
@JessicaLouiseMusic she is also a little delirious from being locked up for so long. and she may still believe that her husband will not execute her. an aside, she was also really, really stupid. she cheated on her husband, the king, who was known for getting rid of his wives.
this is the best beheading scene out of the whole Tudors series....Kitty Howard has the best scene....very adult and played out....just wonderful.....she did Queenly....and with dignity.....
@1412Bunny the first man killed is Thomas Culpeper, played by Torrance Coombs, the lover of Katherine Howard....and the second man is Francis Dereham, played by Allen Leech, another lover of Katherine Howard.
I might have ask this before & if I did please forgive me. Was it me or did Katherine Howard freak out when she saw Thomas Culpepper's head on that spike? If anyone notice that please be kind enough to post there take on this thank you.
OMG!:\ I am going to faint:S:( that execution in the beginning:S omg:( poor and painful way of death:( and moreover those lots of dumb people around them who are laughing :( so horrible:(
@joycapulet he was executed in a Tudor or indeed a British punishment at the time of being hanged until half dead then drawn (opened up whilst still alive, and then quartered ( beheading then limbs cut off) reserved for the worse treason crimes.
It's ironic how all of the men who had a part in condemning Catherine to death were just as adulterous as she was. Charles and Henry were the biggest man whores of all!!!
@tierney2cool4u True, but also, being beheaded by the ax sometimes takes 2-3 blows before finally getting the head off the body, so the victims had to endure excruciating pain before dying. Anne Boleyn had a very swift death, she was beheaded by the sword.
You must remember that Unlike this film Henry was a fat old man at the time he was married to Howard. She was a young woman full of life is it a wonder she had affairs? Her only mistake was not being discrete and got caught. and that cost her her life.
@needabloodyname is that really necessary? She was ill-prepared for the life she was pushed into. That was not her fault. We have all done foolish things as a result of our youth or lack-of-knowledge, Katherine Howard was no different except that her mistake was paid for with her life. I hardly think that she deserved what she got, and Henry proved time and again that he had a foul temper where his wives were concerned. A royal lady could be expected to know better but not a very young woman.
@LadyDiscordAphrodite bitch was married to the king but went around banging members of the court, what did she expect? She might have been ill prepared to be a queen but she wasn't retarded.
@needabloodyname If there was one person that was cruel, unfair and heartless; it was the king himself. Yes, katherine was wrong. but Henry got 6 wives and he didn't just wait before the one was dead/gone to take the other. Look how he did with his first wife. He already took Anne B. when he was still with Cath. Also with the execute of Katherine H. He was already busy with Katherine Parr. (they don't let it see in the series) So.. who is the real slut now, haah?
@heral155 i advise you learn a bit more about the times from actual text books rather than exaggerated t.v shows. To judge the actions of a man who lived over 500 years ago by the moral standards we live in today is illogical and ignorant.
@needabloodyname sorry you are wrong the king was much more ego then katherine. she did it a few weeks. He almost his whole life. ^^ The others are right,, sorry
@needabloodyname I also have being busy with the books,mister. u aslo have to look the way what he means. It is not only about the past,, but also now =) And if u say it is so ignorant and illogical that he is "judge" about the past like 500 years ago.Then tell me why you are so ignorant about Katherine.You know the real story is that it was never proved she was sleeping with an other man,right? Can you send the word "ignorant" again? =) I think that u are the one that looked only to the series.
@LadyDiscordAphrodite No offence, I know that Katherine Howard was very young when she married Henry, but she could have known better....cheating on the king is never a good idea, not now...and let alone then...she probably did know better...but chose not to
Look at Charles when he had to tell her she was going to the Tower. He's probably thinking "how many more wives can my best friend kill"/"how many more executions can I possibly take!" I'm stunned he never cracked! I would have surrounded by so much death/not knowing whether your head was gonna be on the block next!!!
@PrincessMelody6 they didnt mention this in the Tudors, but Catherine Howard looked up to Anne Boleyn. she wanted to be just as brave as Anne during her execution
I think it was ironic that Lady Rochford died the same way as here husband when she supposedly gave a testimony against her husband that sent him to the block...talk about karma
@haiku9 I agree with you. Right before her death Lady Rochford even confessed that the testimony she gave against George and Anne was false and that she herself thinks she deserved to die
@EviliaLorA Francis Dereham, whom Kitty was supposed to have sexual relationships before she was Queen. He blackmailed Kitty into hiring him as her secretary. When Henry VIII found out abt their past, he had him executed for treason
@EviliaLorA His name was Francis Dereham. He had been Katherine's lover and fiance before Katherine even met the King, but instead of keeping his mouth shut when Katherine became Queen, he hinted at their past and bragged about knowing the Queen intimately.
poor kitty. i can't imagine being 17 (or even as young as 15, which she may have been) and being forced to marry a man like henry. It was very foolish of her to be unfaithful, but she really was just a baby, a foolish girl who had a very odd upbringing....it's such a sad story.
even if this is just acting.....i don't feel sorry for katherine howard.....she is alot like the girls i know in real life today.....who sleep with guys after another......no one talks about fixing a marriage or a relationship.....it is always....."i get under a new man with my used up vagina"..........reality sucks.....
@juniperdragon Very true. But what about you blokes? Most of your blokes will do it with just about anyone/thing and yet, nobody bats and eyelid. You tell lies, you deceive girls just to get sex. Double standard. It's wrong.
@juniperdragon HAHAHA 'used up vagina' HAHAHA .... as if body parts were all a woman is. what about her soul, her emotions, her thoughts... her hopes for a future, the children Katherine may have had if she'd lived, the love she had for life? I think Henry should be executed for swinging his 'used up wiener' around.
i have read the actual love letter katherine wrote to thomas
i just only feel bad because she was so young
she only a teenager when she married henry, someone she hated, and then she actually fell in love with someone who was forbidden and then die because of it, even though her actions were wrong, and she only 17 or 18 years old when she died
@CurvesRsexy08 yes i totally agree and thats so cool that you saw that i saw the holbein of katherine howard at hampton court it was a long queue but was so worth it. :)
The poor twit was never fit to be Queen. She didn't have the regal maturity of Queen Katherine or the cunning of Queen Anne Boleyn. She simply had no sense.
As for Lady Rochford,karma be a bitch. It's amazing how it struck in the Tudor era.
It is so hard to understand and believe that back then and even now that people are so inhumane and savage. I would not wish much-less watch people being murdered. That's just horrific.
Was that Elizabeth in the front giggling? I think she liked Katherine Howard and thought it was amusing that Katherine would defy her father and acknowledge her love for another man publicly. The fear of death wouldn't stop her from speaking her mind. R.I.P. Katherine Howard, one of Henry's many victims .
@omega70007 The girl at the front who was smiling at Katherine i think was supposed to be Joan Bulmer, katherines best friend, who barely escaped being executed herself. I think she was smiling to try and reasure katherine and then laughing when Katherine said she wished she had died a cullpepper because it was so obvously not what she was supposed to say, if that makes sense.
God, poor Katherine. She may have done some stupid things but she was only a child. Only a child who was used by those around her and then thrown away. Bless her. She was not fit to be queen but she never deserved anything such as that.
How could Katherine keep such a straight face when she is watching someone she knows gets executed??!!
Vickster9900 1 day ago
I'm talking about kathereine below
asya2011 6 days ago
She was actually much younger in real world, she was only 15ish or so, so she probably died when she was only 17. She was just a young girl, I think her voice speaking while they are being killed is so sad! And lady rochford had gone insane!! Idk how people think it's stupid she cried, imagine being killed like that? It's hard to compose yourself! Tbh I hated her and thought she was a bitch to lady Mary especially but she was a child who was foolish and in love with a silly foolish boy (Thomas)
asya2011 6 days ago
The date and birthyear of katherine is unknown, but she died 18 - 24 years old. She couldn't have been as young as 14 when she married henry, they were only married for about a year and a half.
xSmiley97x 1 week ago
Henry's keeping it in the family. ;]
ScreamBrie 2 weeks ago
@DJHastenz European Americans in the United States brought that type of senseless murder to the Americas. Killing Native Americans men, women and children and burning their camps putting them on reservations. Hanging and burning African slaves men, women and yes children in front of crowds of white women, men and yes children. Yes I would say the Europeans blood runs cold like a snake.
Tiny1bme 1 month ago
She is so immature!! Real queens that are to go to execution do not pee!! She needs to just pray for herself and her neck then die!!:) Just like Anne boleyn
MsBrizuela1 1 month ago
@MsBrizuela1 She was seventeen when she married Henry! Not even an adult! They were married a year and a half so she would be about 18/19 when she died! All of this was a massive shock to her. And then when she was about to die, and she pees, this shows how young and nervous she really was. In my opinion, she held herself well, far more better than Lady Rochford, who was older than her! Okay, she wasn't like Anne, but Anne was older and knew she was innocent and she showed this.
JessicaLouiseMusic 1 month ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic She was not seventeen. She was much younger. She was 14-15 years old. Just a child. Mary Tudor, Henry's first daughter, and her stepdaughter, was much older than her, she was around 17.
Henry married a little girl, much younger than his own daughter.
valericool 1 month ago
@MsBrizuela1 There is no historic recollection of her peeing. It was actually stated that she was really calm and collected. This is dramatization made for TV, not the actual event
ladythalia 1 month ago
Henry's little Kitty
Was so pretty
But so ditzy
So poor
Pretty
Kitty
Was removed from her head.
Just a rhyme, means nothing don't hate on me!
WaterBottle1998 1 month ago 2
I'm not really condoning Henry's behaviour, but you've got to think about the time period. I help out with younger years at schools and they are taught that Henry was a bad man. Personally, think this is wrong because if you think about the impact he had on our country, it's amazing! I mean, yes, his relationships weren't that good but saying that the decisions that he made for them were bad isn't entirely true. 500 years ago, this was actually considered a normal punishment. Think of the time!
JessicaLouiseMusic 2 months ago
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Maybe this is me being mean but i have no sympathy for her she knew the consequences if she got caught and she chose to ignore them to have fun.
nana32231 2 months ago
Why can Henry go around fucking every woman in sight but if they do it they must die?
I don't get it.
azuz6778 2 months ago
Please everybody - stop posting so much sentimental nonsense.
Catherine Howard was a bigamist and a fool who did not deserve to hold a high position such as Queen which in those days meant far more than dressing up,living in a palace and having people bow and scrape to you!
She was technically married to Francis Dereham and by hiding this fact and going through a marriage ceremony with the king she committed an offence which could have undermined his reign.
MsLivilla 3 months ago
@MsLivilla
Whoa, whoa, and Henry was not a bigamist? He was married to both Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn for four months (January to May 1533). Catherine was never married to Dereham, as sexual intercourse does not constitute a marital union, and neither does an engagement. And how could his reign possibly be undermined by a cheating twenty year old wife?
telamon2011 1 month ago
Al portraits of Henry the VII should be banned from officieal view, as his name and date of reign.....
sinoples 3 months ago
did she pee?
jesjenanddom 3 months ago
i hope Katherine in heaven
diary459 3 months ago
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did she ask god to forgive her
diary459 3 months ago
Why do I watch these things? It makes me feel sick....
gilpinme1 3 months ago
and btw its not fair,henry had so much womens and he didn't had to die,and with al that stuff of the bible doesn't the bible sad you have to be faithfull both of you not only the wife
ilovedeborah123 4 months ago 2
@ilovedeborah123 ikr! For some reason they thought men were superior like that. -.-
nana32231 2 months ago
wow this is really offul they lived in a terrible time
ilovedeborah123 4 months ago
i have to ask, do you think catherine howard actually weed herself before she got beheaded?
poweroftheninja96 4 months ago
Everytime I see this i ball my eyes out.. because its such a touching story and at the same time it is history
lavahot200 4 months ago
I'd like to warn all women never to marry king herny, oh wait is he going to behead them for that too?
azuz6778 4 months ago
What film was this from?
MentalFlowertot 4 months ago
@MentalFlowertot It was from a TV show named The Tudors by Showtime
MarinaMaxwellYuy 4 months ago
@MarinaMaxwellYuy Thanks :)
MentalFlowertot 4 months ago
Wouldn't it have been just WONDERFUL 2 have Henry listening 2 that "I die a queen... but I would rather die the wife of Culpeper"?! XD
GOD! I would have LOOOOOOVED that!
TheTudorLover 5 months ago
Too bad Henry VIII didn't die that way. Given the number of ppl he killed, the axe would have been an appropiate end for that fat, murderous bastard!
Squeller5 5 months ago
So sad!
xTheNightWatchmanx 6 months ago
Culpepper had no block! :s
Jess140594 6 months ago
For those who didn't know: Jane Boleyn (lady Rochford) DIDN'T die before her queen, but after her.
Yes, I know, they got it in a different order 2 achieve a more melodramatic end 2 the episode.
TheTudorLover 6 months ago 2
@TheTudorLover they should have done it in the correct way for the film :)
gellybambino 5 months ago
@gellybambino Yeap, they should have but, then again, I think they decided 2 have Jane Boleyn leaving this world before our "Rose without a thorn" did, so that we felt more... sympathetic (?) towards Kate.
There are sooooooo many things in the show that have been changed from "completely" 2 "just a little bit" in orther 2 seduce us, the audiences. Unfortunately, I have no more space here 2 list some of those changes... But they're a lot!
TheTudorLover 5 months ago
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@gellybambino Yeap, they should have but, then again, I think they decided 2 have Jane Boleyn leaving this world before our "Rose without a thorn" did, so that we felt more... sympathetic (?) towards Kate.
There are sooooooo many things in the show that have been changed from "completely" 2 "just a little bit" in orther 2 seduce us, the audiences. Unfortunately, I have no more space here 2 list some of those changes... But they're a lot!
TheTudorLover 5 months ago
Ummmmm ... the guy she loved raped someone with his friends and then killed the woman's husband so he wouldn't tell ... Yeah???
nicole14dudley 6 months ago
@nicole14dudley What the hell? Where did you read this?
SmileyyBabyy14 3 months ago
-or anyone else for that matter. Katherine may have reasoned her affair with the arguement that it may produce children, therfore providing security in her marriage. The same may well have been so for her cousin, Anne Boleyn. But her guilt of course is still open for interpretation.
Rennimagus 7 months ago
In a time where women were encouraged to drink while pregnant, where mental illnesses of today were personality quirks or hanging offences, where children were beaten as part of a healthy upbringing, and when girls aged 11 or 12 were considered ripe for marriage, how can anyone honestly expect men or women of that time to be sane or even intelligent by the standards of today? Between his age and health problems, and probablly some STDs, Henry could have never had children with Katherine-
Rennimagus 7 months ago
This is so sad to watch she was way to young to die. This makes me so sad that she died for being in love.
SprinklesFairyDust 7 months ago 2
@SprinklesFairyDust you're not too young to die lol
theSANDMAN1052 5 months ago
this is way too sad too watch :(
saeefa 7 months ago
She loved life and enjoyed it til her last breath... None of those women deserved to die... I can't say the same about that chauvinistic pig, Henry
melloslash 7 months ago 33
@melloslash Although it would be easy to say ,all these ladies made a deal with the devil,and they should've avoided meeting that swine of a Henry. Circumstances often dictate otherwise,therefore we should pity them.
A captivating series.
PAULLONDEN 7 months ago
If you see the punishments.. with those people around it; yelling and laughing... i really gonne think that they were crazy in that time. ( and yes yes yes I know it's a "TV serie") But in real they did such a thing. And most of people were innocent...
heral155 7 months ago
@heral155 to judge the actions of people who lived over 500 years ago by the moral standards of today is illogical and unfair.
needabloodyname 7 months ago
@needabloodyname Uhm.. what's wrong.. you can't accept my other comment? So you react on this one or what? Let's see... maybe if you were in that time they maybe also punished you like that.. even if you were innocent? Is that also illogical and unfair or is that just to weird to think of? :) ow!! yes.. I see.. it's totally normal ;) Great!
heral155 7 months ago
@needabloodyname So you now saiying that it's normal to have these punishments? If they cut you fckng dick offfff is that normal or illogical? 500 years ago or not, it still happends in few lands of Afrika and other parts of the world. These human don't live in a "time" like us. It doesn't matther if is now or in the past. It is illogical and unfair if there are people who acting like: is normal. And he is right; The King was also a slut not only katherine.
alaintje2 7 months ago 2
was she in the same room as Anne Boleyn?
justianowski 8 months ago
@ Jessica
historically she was dancing with her ladies when they came to arrest her.. their words... there is no more time to dance... I think the director used some artistic license....
50kcb 8 months ago
pretty sad that I can recite that whole letter just from watching the episode over and over again!!
I.MISS.THE.TUDORS!
izzyanddennyfan 8 months ago 3
@izzyanddennyfan I miss it too!!
shyfly825 8 months ago in playlist The Tudors HISTORICAL INFO, DOCUMENTARIES etc....
so gross.
uniquelyanonymoslyme 8 months ago
so was hte dancing actually in this episode or wa sit another episode and you just put it in
CherryBlossomBlyue 9 months ago
The truth is that she didnt say those words, it was what the ambassador Chapuys "apparently" spread among people, he wasnt there even. According to a "real story" Catherine just said sorry and asked people to pray for her and that the king was too gracious to her,etc. But i believe, that she trully loved the king and that it was never proved that she had a carnal knowledge,etc. HENRY NEVER DESERVED ANY OF HIS WIVES!!!!
SweetKitty18 9 months ago 4
My god...I never liked her in the show (not because of her affair but because of her treatment towards Princess Mary and obnoxious behavior) but for her to see Culpepper's head...That is just cruel. I do hope the real Katherine did not see such a sight before her death. Rest in peace.
toliveandroamfree 9 months ago
Braveheart got nothing on this Hang, Drawing, and Quartering scene!
GnomePuntingftw 10 months ago
i dont think she cried? Didn't they say she didnt? oh well, its tv so i guess they added some stuff to make it interesting it cant be completely accurate.
ChristineScholz 10 months ago
why are all the women behaeded? I Thought women when executed by burning on the stake. Was it because Henry had some mercy and granted them a quick death?
femkeanders 10 months ago
@femkeanders it's because they weren't commoners :)
lodemaiofwraiths 10 months ago
@femkeanders It depended on the crime. I believe for treason the punichment was suppsed to be 'hung drawn and quartered' In england however women would be burned at the stake instead. Beheading, especially with a sword was considered a more 'honourable' way to die and as such was normally carried out for nobles or as the case may be queens.
colourmeem0 10 months ago
"Life is very beautiful"
Gives me chills every time I hear her say that...
LadyGraceofHearts 10 months ago
...."He called me, and touched the secret parts of my body..." I love that line
shyfly825 11 months ago 3
watching this whole saga "the tudors" her death saddened me the most, she was just a child.
universallis1 11 months ago 2
i don't under stand why members of the council was there for Katherine's death, but not for Anne's.
TheWickedVampire 11 months ago
Her dancing sequence was shown during an earlier episode. Her and her ladies in waiting were learning the dane with a person who seemed to be a choreographer of the court.
Its the episode during the early Culpeper meetings.
mrsprincesslily 11 months ago
i love how everytime there is adultery, when the men are killed it's like "YAY!" and when it's the women's turn it's "we'll pray for you sweet lady"...like wtf?
XOXOLADIDA 11 months ago
@XOXOLADIDA Can you not see 2 men put to death for the same adultry in the above film?
FellowTownsman 11 months ago
They don't show how gross and fat the king was.
EllieMarianna 1 year ago
She pissed herself.
zanzell 1 year ago
This is harrowing scene, however in truth Lady Rochford had to watch Katherine go first not the other way around.
jmurf22 1 year ago
@jmurf22 That's what I thought. It honestly made no sense to me why the series would have it this way.
Caerdrys 1 year ago
@Caerdrys Well they likely did it that way around because it's more dramatic, it seems all the worse in making it seem like Katherine had to watch Rochford go first. Also the episode pretty much ended right after this so if they had done it the right way it would have ended on Lady Rochford being killed, though she's been a character in the series for a while she wasn't the focus of this it kinda needed to close on Katherine being killed, her leaning in the blood added to the scene.
jmurf22 1 year ago
Adulterer, liar and unworthy female.
FellowTownsman 1 year ago
@FellowTownsman thats your opinion but katherine howard is and wil always be my favorite queen.
i think she wanted to be queen because of the dresses and gifts she'd recieve but i think if she didn't have that choice of being queen, she would have stayed where she was. She got kinda forced into court by her uncle, she didn't really have her say. Don't blame Katheryne, blame the parents/carers.
JessicaLouiseMusic 11 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic I'm afraid i do blame her, i also blame the unworthiness of Henry. But she should of been very aware of her duty and responsibilities of not just a 15th century English wife, but English queen as well. The carers/parents could only bring her up so far, but like us all there's a time she has to be responsible for herself.
FellowTownsman 11 months ago
@FellowTownsman she was a child married to an old man.
tranurse 9 months ago 3
gruesome execution scene. but poor katherine...she was so young
xxxemersxxx 1 year ago
the death of Katherine Howard happened 469 years ago today, unbelieveable, really. Katherine Howard is my favourite queen, remembered :)
JessicaLouiseMusic 1 year ago
wow that people really could enjoyed things like that, I'm even disgusted when I see just actors PLAYING it
jebemtipitchko 1 year ago 4
Can i ask why she's dancing when she knows she's going to die? Although she looks lovely, I still don't understandwhy she's dancing? Anyone?
JessicaLouiseMusic 1 year ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic What you will do when you're going to die? Catherine loves dancing and so, she's dancing for the last time.
JuzTudor70AD 1 year ago 41
@JuzTudor70AD although what you've said is sad, it's beautiful
JessicaLouiseMusic 1 year ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic while she was dancing, she did not know that she will die soon.
arturkier 11 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic Its was the director told her to do!
CherishedLuv05 11 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic
who knows if she really danced knowing what was waiting for her...I rather think it is an image a metaphore of the Queen's last dance...In my view :-)
plouni17 11 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic Issues.
HasaanFatal 10 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic The poor child did the one thing she loved the most before death (an real life she was but a child bless her), let me ask you what would you do if you knew you was about to die?
100percentbabeLOL 7 months ago
@JessicaLouiseMusic she is also a little delirious from being locked up for so long. and she may still believe that her husband will not execute her. an aside, she was also really, really stupid. she cheated on her husband, the king, who was known for getting rid of his wives.
gizmokeeper 5 months ago
could they have at least washed the block off for a former queen?
stillrainingonme 1 year ago
oh gosh the drops of blood that dripped from the axe onto her neck, that would have been freaky
Strawberrykisses218 1 year ago
this is the best beheading scene out of the whole Tudors series....Kitty Howard has the best scene....very adult and played out....just wonderful.....she did Queenly....and with dignity.....
SleepWhenIamDead 1 year ago 2
Of the two men who as the first one killed and who was the second?
1412Bunny 1 year ago
@1412Bunny the first man killed is Thomas Culpeper, played by Torrance Coombs, the lover of Katherine Howard....and the second man is Francis Dereham, played by Allen Leech, another lover of Katherine Howard.
rtudor90 1 year ago
It's so sad, she was only 16-17 years old. :(
1412Bunny 1 year ago
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i wish i had sex with her ;(
TitusVI 1 year ago
Look at the face on the dude at 6:58 he's like well okay then. Lol
lloydistosexy 1 year ago
I might have ask this before & if I did please forgive me. Was it me or did Katherine Howard freak out when she saw Thomas Culpepper's head on that spike? If anyone notice that please be kind enough to post there take on this thank you.
deloufu 1 year ago
@deloufu Yes but thats earlier in the episode! :)
TooCoolforschool1000 1 year ago
OMG!:\ I am going to faint:S:( that execution in the beginning:S omg:( poor and painful way of death:( and moreover those lots of dumb people around them who are laughing :( so horrible:(
Annuska1995 1 year ago 2
such sad music
Gvanillavodka 1 year ago
how did they execute Dereham? what happened?
joycapulet 1 year ago
@joycapulet he was executed in a Tudor or indeed a British punishment at the time of being hanged until half dead then drawn (opened up whilst still alive, and then quartered ( beheading then limbs cut off) reserved for the worse treason crimes.
windsorbays 1 year ago
@joycapulet they were both hung drawn and quarted
Gvanillavodka 1 year ago
It's ironic how all of the men who had a part in condemning Catherine to death were just as adulterous as she was. Charles and Henry were the biggest man whores of all!!!
4DECO1 1 year ago
Catherine Howard, I have to tell you that you are going to DIE!
susumu07 1 year ago
i really wanna season deos anyone no when it starts in england
gummie1066 1 year ago
I give props to Lady Rochford, acting mental so you wouldn't have to be excuted. Too bad they saw past her BS
VampsAreLovee 1 year ago
@tierney2cool4u True, but also, being beheaded by the ax sometimes takes 2-3 blows before finally getting the head off the body, so the victims had to endure excruciating pain before dying. Anne Boleyn had a very swift death, she was beheaded by the sword.
LunaHanayuki08 1 year ago
Apparently, being hung drawn and quartered was their equivalent of UFC.
TheAviator8289 1 year ago
8:02 she peeing?
lillily174 1 year ago
@lillily174 Yes, she just pissed on herself after seeing Lady Rochford executed. If I were in her position, I'd probably shit on myself too.
TheAviator8289 1 year ago
@TheAviator8289 actually it was the other way around Katherine was executed first then Jane
Gvanillavodka 1 year ago
Katherine then Lady Jane Rochford. Such a speech is unlikely to have been given.
antoninus138 1 year ago
@antoninus138 True but they had to dramatize for tv
TooCoolforschool1000 1 year ago
Katherine died eerst then Lady Jane Rochford
antoninus138 1 year ago
why does Henry never age.
antoninus138 1 year ago
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That's one fucked up way to die!!
amarieoflothlorien 1 year ago
Why was she not blindfolded?
Chenzhenhui 1 year ago
You must remember that Unlike this film Henry was a fat old man at the time he was married to Howard. She was a young woman full of life is it a wonder she had affairs? Her only mistake was not being discrete and got caught. and that cost her her life.
MegaWolfgang 1 year ago
How's that song called?? I can't find it anywhere!
oldfurniture 1 year ago
@oldfurniture The one at the beginning? It's called "The Execution Ballet" by Trevor Morris, and it's on the Tudors season 4 soundtrack.
iluvwinterweather 1 year ago
Poor Child. Thrust into a life she didn't fully comprehend and punished when her youth and impulsive nature which came with youth led her astray.
LadyDiscordAphrodite 1 year ago 18
@LadyDiscordAphrodite serves her right for being a slut
needabloodyname 9 months ago
@needabloodyname is that really necessary? She was ill-prepared for the life she was pushed into. That was not her fault. We have all done foolish things as a result of our youth or lack-of-knowledge, Katherine Howard was no different except that her mistake was paid for with her life. I hardly think that she deserved what she got, and Henry proved time and again that he had a foul temper where his wives were concerned. A royal lady could be expected to know better but not a very young woman.
LadyDiscordAphrodite 9 months ago 16
@LadyDiscordAphrodite bitch was married to the king but went around banging members of the court, what did she expect? She might have been ill prepared to be a queen but she wasn't retarded.
needabloodyname 9 months ago
@needabloodyname If there was one person that was cruel, unfair and heartless; it was the king himself. Yes, katherine was wrong. but Henry got 6 wives and he didn't just wait before the one was dead/gone to take the other. Look how he did with his first wife. He already took Anne B. when he was still with Cath. Also with the execute of Katherine H. He was already busy with Katherine Parr. (they don't let it see in the series) So.. who is the real slut now, haah?
heral155 7 months ago 3
@heral155 i advise you learn a bit more about the times from actual text books rather than exaggerated t.v shows. To judge the actions of a man who lived over 500 years ago by the moral standards we live in today is illogical and ignorant.
needabloodyname 7 months ago
@needabloodyname sorry you are wrong the king was much more ego then katherine. she did it a few weeks. He almost his whole life. ^^ The others are right,, sorry
AWproductions155 7 months ago
@needabloodyname you advise me? lol!!!! read the tekst again. wtf? so difficult?
heral155 7 months ago
@needabloodyname I also have being busy with the books,mister. u aslo have to look the way what he means. It is not only about the past,, but also now =) And if u say it is so ignorant and illogical that he is "judge" about the past like 500 years ago.Then tell me why you are so ignorant about Katherine.You know the real story is that it was never proved she was sleeping with an other man,right? Can you send the word "ignorant" again? =) I think that u are the one that looked only to the series.
shaiyaxx1 7 months ago 2
@LadyDiscordAphrodite No offence, I know that Katherine Howard was very young when she married Henry, but she could have known better....cheating on the king is never a good idea, not now...and let alone then...she probably did know better...but chose not to
Daniella26able 7 months ago
my favorite queen ever. takes guts to ask for the block, so you can practice.
TraciPeteyforlife 1 year ago
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kappleviolet 1 year ago
i feel like they terribly warped the true story of catherine howard...and she was terribly miscast with Tamzin Merchant
kappleviolet 1 year ago
terribly done.....a little too cheesy..............season 2 was the best
kappleviolet 1 year ago
Look at Charles when he had to tell her she was going to the Tower. He's probably thinking "how many more wives can my best friend kill"/"how many more executions can I possibly take!" I'm stunned he never cracked! I would have surrounded by so much death/not knowing whether your head was gonna be on the block next!!!
TheStarSorceress 1 year ago
@TheStarSorceress Yeah, It makes you wish Henry would've been born in the United States during the 1800's during the birth of Mormonism.
BoukenCrimson 1 year ago
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Yeah, than none of his wives would have had nothing to worry about (except maybe each other).
TheStarSorceress 1 year ago
the execution scenes in this season have got highly graphic!!!
polleh1 1 year ago 5
hmm same words of what anne boleyn said during her last speech "I have come here to die" lol
PrincessMelody6 1 year ago 4
@PrincessMelody6 they didnt mention this in the Tudors, but Catherine Howard looked up to Anne Boleyn. she wanted to be just as brave as Anne during her execution
annemolly57 8 months ago
the didnt remove the cam off his head when the cut it =/ i was nearly vomiting
MultiLolerz 1 year ago 2
I think it was ironic that Lady Rochford died the same way as here husband when she supposedly gave a testimony against her husband that sent him to the block...talk about karma
haiku9 1 year ago 4
@haiku9 I agree with you. Right before her death Lady Rochford even confessed that the testimony she gave against George and Anne was false and that she herself thinks she deserved to die
ttm90 1 year ago
Watching this, well, it made me sick, english were very brutal back them, of course I know they are not the only culture who were.
mckfrr 1 year ago 2
How upsetting scenes :(
WeAreQPR1882 1 year ago
Why was the man after culpepper executed?
EviliaLorA 1 year ago
@EviliaLorA Francis Dereham, whom Kitty was supposed to have sexual relationships before she was Queen. He blackmailed Kitty into hiring him as her secretary. When Henry VIII found out abt their past, he had him executed for treason
RaphaelTudors 1 year ago 2
@EviliaLorA His name was Francis Dereham. He had been Katherine's lover and fiance before Katherine even met the King, but instead of keeping his mouth shut when Katherine became Queen, he hinted at their past and bragged about knowing the Queen intimately.
BabeeyAmyy 1 year ago 2
poor kitty. i can't imagine being 17 (or even as young as 15, which she may have been) and being forced to marry a man like henry. It was very foolish of her to be unfaithful, but she really was just a baby, a foolish girl who had a very odd upbringing....it's such a sad story.
PaleLittleGirl1 1 year ago 2
even if this is just acting.....i don't feel sorry for katherine howard.....she is alot like the girls i know in real life today.....who sleep with guys after another......no one talks about fixing a marriage or a relationship.....it is always....."i get under a new man with my used up vagina"..........reality sucks.....
juniperdragon 1 year ago
@juniperdragon Very true. But what about you blokes? Most of your blokes will do it with just about anyone/thing and yet, nobody bats and eyelid. You tell lies, you deceive girls just to get sex. Double standard. It's wrong.
bauman11 1 year ago
@juniperdragon HAHAHA 'used up vagina' HAHAHA .... as if body parts were all a woman is. what about her soul, her emotions, her thoughts... her hopes for a future, the children Katherine may have had if she'd lived, the love she had for life? I think Henry should be executed for swinging his 'used up wiener' around.
AliceSp 1 year ago
@juniperdragon So she, and they, deserve to have their head chopped off?
Rachyf1 1 year ago
i have read the actual love letter katherine wrote to thomas
i just only feel bad because she was so young
she only a teenager when she married henry, someone she hated, and then she actually fell in love with someone who was forbidden and then die because of it, even though her actions were wrong, and she only 17 or 18 years old when she died
CurvesRsexy08 1 year ago 2
@CurvesRsexy08 yes i totally agree and thats so cool that you saw that i saw the holbein of katherine howard at hampton court it was a long queue but was so worth it. :)
lucyluuuxxxx 1 year ago
this is horrible and anyone who says they deserve this is a monster. It is disgusting and everyone needs another chance never that.
lucyluuuxxxx 1 year ago 2
So glad this whore Katherine and that bastard Culpepper got just what was coming 2 them ASSHOLES
katinaellis23 1 year ago
:SSSSS!!!! oh my... that was so creepy...
carcachita2000 1 year ago
The poor twit was never fit to be Queen. She didn't have the regal maturity of Queen Katherine or the cunning of Queen Anne Boleyn. She simply had no sense.
As for Lady Rochford,karma be a bitch. It's amazing how it struck in the Tudor era.
NicolaWriter 1 year ago 6
It is so hard to understand and believe that back then and even now that people are so inhumane and savage. I would not wish much-less watch people being murdered. That's just horrific.
Was that Elizabeth in the front giggling? I think she liked Katherine Howard and thought it was amusing that Katherine would defy her father and acknowledge her love for another man publicly. The fear of death wouldn't stop her from speaking her mind. R.I.P. Katherine Howard, one of Henry's many victims .
omega70007 1 year ago 5
@omega70007 The girl at the front who was smiling at Katherine i think was supposed to be Joan Bulmer, katherines best friend, who barely escaped being executed herself. I think she was smiling to try and reasure katherine and then laughing when Katherine said she wished she had died a cullpepper because it was so obvously not what she was supposed to say, if that makes sense.
Rachyf1 1 year ago 3
God, poor Katherine. She may have done some stupid things but she was only a child. Only a child who was used by those around her and then thrown away. Bless her. She was not fit to be queen but she never deserved anything such as that.
PrincessMioneKag 1 year ago 17
Who was the female executed prior to the Queen?
omega70007 1 year ago 6