Why there is no "l" letter, while choosing the names? Also what with the sound? Well anyway, when i will buy this, i will enjoy FF7 even without sound. Eat that PSP with your 5 hours or something.
I doubt DS emulation, this has a cortex arm 8 processor Single core and the way the DS handles Processes is with an arm7 and arm9 dual setup. Thats the reason emulation of it on PC is so difficult and often is completely pointless as games run like shit. devs havent even found a good way to get it running on PC much less a handheld that has about a quarter the specs of your average modern PC
Well, the general vibe in the community (from the dev's point of view) is that DS emulation could be quite possible, but not to hold your breath- there's no guarantee as it would require a whole new emulator to be written, rather than just having one ported (Desmume is just too slow for the Pandora).
@dakidukno First the ds has dual screens and playing on this device would not only be unpleasant but impractical. Second just because you think the hardware looks good and is better than the ds doesn't mean it can emulate it. You have to account for the operating system running in the background and the console recreating the ds within the software.
Mimical is full of doggy doo doo! PSP's have hundreds of home brew games and programs the psp runs and Nintendo 64 emulator work fine on it too and i have personalty played final fantasy 7 original on a psp too so Pandora ain't that special for being so damn expensive.
@jcudal32 No, actually it has around the same specs as the Gamecube. Beat out on the GPU by around 50MHz, but it kicks the GC's ass on CPU...by about 120MHz. Take that DS! (The PS2's GPU scored about the same, and it's FINAL CPU just sucked.) This thing can emulate all of them but the Xbox, for it was far ahead of it's time. Check out the Wiki articles for each for the specs if you don't believe me. :)
@willofthephoenix Pandora can hardly emulate DC let alone GC or PS2. You need far more processing power to emulate a console than the console's original specs.
With this thing, I'd be able to play all my old games portably, and not have to worry about discs or game cards. It's tempting me even at its price point (WHICH I KNOW IS LOW, I'M JUST CHEAP)
Actually the pandora has the ability to run PS2, gamecube, and xbox, it's as powerful as the original xbox was systems wise, so all that is very possible, you just won't see anything like Wii or 360 on it xD
@Darknightleo18 no unfortunately its not possible emulating a system requires alot more power and sometimes even pure power wont solve the problem like in the case of the Sega Saturn
Even a 3.0 Ghz Core2Duo PC with a 256 Bit high end GPU with DDR3 VRAM struggles with PS2 emulation so what makes you think Pandora could accomplish it.
@Nenyana PS2 emulation (pcsx2) is quite good with modern gaming pcs. On mine (phenomII x3 @3,2ghz + radeon4850) i can play every game i wanted to play, things like god of war and stuff. But you really need a good high mhz processor for ps2 emulation. Intel cpus are better of course, but my amd does just fine.
I mean Card1.mcd, the virtual memory card used by pSX and ePSXe & PCSX, just a file that holds the saves like a memory card does. Most Emulators use virtual memory cards, but not all of them are compatible with one another.
Memory card format for the Emulator. I'm well aware that the Pandora used SHDC cards. I run a Playstation Emulator (pSX) on my computer, and was asking if the saves on my virtual memory cards will be transferable.
Dunno what were you reading. I scour the forums regularly, so here's an official listing: Already working fine: SNES Amiga (I think) PS1 In progress / Working slowly: Dreamcast N64 PSP Not ever happening: PS2 Xbox Gamecube NDS
Nice, looks like Pandora is much more powerful that GP2X was even thought it was quite powerful already it wasn't able to use all of it's potential for some reason.
Does the PSX4Pandora emulator support game sounds?
I don't really care about the Pandora becuz my CFW psp can run Playstation,NES,SNES,Gameboy,GBA,etc at full speed and I can play N64 at pretty okay speed. If u have a hacked psp theirs pretty much no reason to get a pandora.
Even if PSP's are hacked, they're trash compared to a Pandora. You don't get the point of it. It's for homebrews. People who make programs & games for themselves, and the portability. You're just a gamer. Besides, if you can't get the N64 at full speed, then you don't know what you're doing.
So pretty much ur saying that Pandoras are for developers and people who like to do it anywhere instead of on their computers and PSP's are for ppl that just play the games. Just asking :)
@Mimical i have 347 psp games that run off both my psp 1000 and my 3000 both hacked not mentioning the games for homebrew all in great running speed also the emulators for n64 snes ans nes all running great so plus all the other shit that psp does how are you saying that psp is trash what stuff does the pandora do that psp doesnt im curious because i just found out about it
@RichardLeeSousa@jaredross1 Things a pandora does PSP doesn't: 1 - Touchscreen 2 - Linux 3 - Firefox, google chrome, other browsers 4 - Using emulators while multitasking (Instant messaging, etc.) 5 - dual analogue sticks 6 - a texting keypad 7 - Twice the screen resolution 8 - TV out 9 - A USB port for connecting a mouse and keyboard, or for charging another device with the pandora (emergency phone charging?) 10 - Nintendo 64 11 - Most things you can do with a netbook 12 - NO HACKING REQUIRED!
@RichardLeeSousa In addition to this, the device is virtually impossible to brick, as long as you don't modify the hardware you aren't voiding any warranties, you have the possibility of expanding the device using any kind of USB device. Software developers can write code, compile, and test software right on the device, cutting down development times for games, emulators, and applications, etc. The PSP isn't trash, but rather this does so much more.
@Mimical LOL hacked psps over this any day. psx emulation has been available forever. and you can pick up a hacked psp for less than a hundred. a pandora costs $350
@jaredross1 Things a pandora does PSP doesn't: 1 - Touchscreen 2 - Linux 3 - Firefox, google chrome, other browsers 4 - Using emulators while multitasking (Instant messaging, etc.) 5 - dual analogue sticks 6 - a texting keypad 7 - Twice the screen resolution 8 - TV out 9 - A USB port for connecting a mouse and keyboard, or for charging another device with the pandora (emergency phone charging?) 10 - Nintendo 64 11 - Most things you can do with a netbook 12 - NO HACKING REQUIRED!
@wicky615 funny thing is you can get a great Laptop that will do all those things, and more for the same price! obviously you bought one of these units and are now trying to justify your purchase. ITS NOT WORTH IT
@jaredknight You find me a laptop that's the same size as the pandora and has gaming controls on it, and folds up and fits in your pocket, and I'll chop my own leg off and eat it.
@jaredknight You obviously haven't actually physically seen one. They're a touch bigger than the original Nintendo DS. You can fit in your pocket easy. Stop trollin'.
Well, except for the part where it has a touchscreen and PDA / mobile Internet software, and where it can play movies and music from SD cards or a wireless network share or a USB flash drive.
But other than that, yeah, just get the PSP and hack it. Hack it as hard as you can, and don't let Sony update your firmware.
You should read the specs on the PSP and the Pandora. The Pandora is much better and iirc its main processor is double the PSP's, not to mention the additional 110MHz GPU. The Pandora is so powerful it could be argued that it should be in the netbook category of computing.
It's as powerful as a netbook, the battery life is on par with cell phones, the size is sort of like a handheld gaming console, and the software library is sort of like a PDA's.
The Pandora is in a class of its own. I don't know if UMPC is quite appropriate since most UMPCs are x86, and apparently non-x86 and non-Windows computers are not personal computers. >_>
the sony ux imo is a lot better of a buy, it can run even ut 2004 reasonably well and it is windows so the games dont need to be open source so u can play reasonably new games on it. It is way more powerful than this as well.
All I was saying was that I personally didn't like the Gameboy, and I hoped that this console will bring some rejuvination back to the handheld platform. So for those of you that still play Fire Emblem and Pokemon on your god damn SP'sL (lol) The Gameboy was garbage, and say whatever you want but 99 percent of the game made for it were just retarded. I can name a few good ones, (Zelda, Wario Ware), but mostly it was stupid companies out to make a fast buck on a crappy game.
When I first saw this I was a little skeptical. (The original Xbox ran at somewhere between 600 and 700 MHz.)
But after a little research and watching other videos, I'm really stinking excited about this system. I hope it goes somewhere big, unlike the GameBoy. I'm picking one of these up. No questions asked. I can't wait to try out some of these emulators...
I mean, I hope that this is something that lasts for a long time, like the NES. But the Gameboy died out after a decade and a half. And most of the games for it were pretty much garbage. lol.
I see what you mean. I don't see the Pandora lasting more than a few years though. Pandora 2 would be able to do everything Pandora did and more, and there would be no reason to hang on to your original Pandora.
Of course, you could say the Gameboy will live on through Pandora as it has with GP32, GP2X and will with the GP2X WiZ and really computer emulators in general, and it throws a wrench into the whole conversation lol.
I believe it will behave like a normal consumer device, you shouldn't need to know anything about linux to use it - this was already like that with GP2X, and this device stems from GP2X user community.
A possibility to run desktop Linux software is foreseen though for those who may want it.
Really? must be because the emulator probably doesn't support dual core? how much ram do you have? and what graphics card?.......then again, ePSXe needs minimal of those so shouldn't really matter, maybe you would have to modify some settings?
There is likely a simple reason why your Psp will no longer play Pops anymore. It is either memory stick corruption, incorrect pops version, settings of the custom firmware or something related.
Mem stick is fine. It will load the game and freeze once I reach the screen before the main menu. I tried different pops versions. Also, I have 4.01 M33
Im Currently a gp2x f-200 users and since most of the gp2x community is involved in this im most certainly gonna get this right here.
My PSP crapped out on me and the PSP games sucked ass...even when i could get them for free via ISO or CSO files they sucked so bad i used my psp for emulation MORE than i did with PSP games. Now thats saying something.
So PSP fanboys, please shut up. Cuz ive been there, and it was the worst thing i ever could of bought.
i know, the ps3 uses bluray which has more storage, by proving a SD card can hold a full ps3 game it should be Common sense that it can hold the smaller 360 DVD. e
the point is, not a single ps3 game uses 16x layer blu-ray discs..... dual layered blue ray games are the highest you get at the moment.
so yes, you can still put a ps3 game on a SD card.
even if/when they do get some crazy 16x layer blu ray games (btw, 16x layers are not even out yet, they have only just been tested).... you ignore the fact SD card sizes are also increasing, so it is more than possible you could hold 4oogb games on them in a few years time.
Technically, the SDHC standard only allows for 32 gigabyte file limits. Though, while the specification limits it to 32 gigabytes, it is technically possible to go higher. That might cause problems for some devices, though. So, we may or may not see larger SD cards coming out. It's about time for a new standard anyway...
the 3d resolution of rendered objects has nothing to do with the size of the game. It's not a storage limit issue, it's a processing power limit issue.
Perhaps you could explain to the nice people at home why you think a storage medium that has higher access speeds and a much greater capacity than DVD is "unessecary"...
yo man, u should know by now all new technology has its price, but its not a waste of time, i saved up 3 weeks pay to purchase on and 4 dvds and ill personally tell there is clear difference in quality
WOOOOW. doom3 is like, the latest release of a series of games spanning 20+ years; doom. it's incredibly graphics heavy, and serious cpu usage is necessary.
By 2004, transistor size was about 1/2.286th it was in 2000.
1/2.2.286 = 0.438.
The die size of the PS2CPU is 240mm^2.
The root of 240 is 15.49
The necessary side length of an equivalent 2004 CPU would need to be 6.77.
6.77^2 = 45.94
The PSPCPU is probably larger than 46 mm^2.
ps4real000 sent me a PM saying that he was a "computer expert", and said that the PSP only has a "few thousands of transistors." If he can lie and be so wrong about that, I don't think he's right in any of his comments.
The only thing I don't like about this thing is the pricetag... Hopefully it'll come down in price one day. I hope someone does a port of Marathon to this.
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there is no shader support for the SGXlite. all you shader operations can still be done, but in software.anti-aisling is the second one. it kinda sucks on the sgx. The third one is the gl's clipping software. it sucks hard, and can be a pain to work with. a haven't found any good ways to deal this this as of yet. in a long story short-- you cant do a lot with the pandora, and there's NOT a lot of potential in it. this is all the technical yada-yada they don't want you to know.
# exceeding requirements of OpenGL 2.0 and up to DirectX 10.1 Shader Model 4.1 you do nou that powervr SGX are the most atvans and powerful grafx cores that you can get on mobile
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that number of polygons is the amount per second, but your game will run at say 30 frames per second. you'll be looking at 50,000 polygons per frame. now, this with without texturing, and actually, these aren't polygons either. they are lines all connected together using the GL_LINE_STRIP method actually. lines do count as polygons (I think the lines' thickness are two polygons, or quads made from two vertices)
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ive been working on a pandoras (powervrSGX) GPU. pandora's gpu has a peak of 14mil polys/s.now, on a realistic level, ive been able to render +5,000 3D textured vertices a frame without adding in all my optimization code for bsp tree support, or octree support. actually, ive had scenes up to 35,000 vertices with texture, and movement all working at 10-25 fps. without mesh to sphere collision detection on, and without lighting and and blitting on. all texturing was 32 bit on 32 bit framebuffers.
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..almost as powerful as a GC cpu? lol,they are hyping it, just like sony did with psp, saying that is almost as powerful as a ps2. what a lie.. psp is not even CLOSE to a ps2, the ps2 cpu is five to ten times times more powerful. by the way... you are never going to see games like god of war: coo on a pandora. bear with it. you will only play crappy games like quake. why sony never used ARM cores for their products? because arm SUCKS DICK and sony knows that. sony is the boss, you cant beat sony
Quake is so much a better game than god or war, and... no one want the pandora to play ps2 games. It can handle fullspeed psx emulation and even n64 with optimizations mayb be not a dream, no one wants Crysis on an handheld
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this is going to fail like the gp2x. i mean come on, you think it is more powerful than a psp? emulating psx games aint shit. ARM cpu's always sucked dick, and they still do. a 333 mhz MIPS32R2 ISA is more powerful than a 600, or even 1ghz ARM cpu.(btw the psp cpu Is not a R4000, they probably meant MIPS32-4k and everyone misunderstood. It implements a slightly modified MIPS32R2 ISA (which is a DESKTOP core on a PORTABLE device) pandora has the lite version of ti omap 3550 (800mflops)
what i read from your reply is that you nou nothing about ARM and mips cores the ARM Cortex-A8 core that is in the omap3530 that power the pandora is 4-5 times more powerful than the mips core that is in the psp also there is powerful dsp in pandora which can help with many things like video and to reply arm cores tend to have the best DMIPS/MHz like the ARM Cortex-A8 has 2.0 DMIPS/MHz
also, the gp2x is not failed at all, it's a niche market console, with a great community, of course it's not supported by a commercial giant such sony, but who fucking cares? no need for stupid hacks to play emualators and homebrew games, so put your psp up your ass and shut up
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Pandora = Flop
Get a PSP and run the game on there for fuck's sake.
The Pandora is an overrated laptop, capable of nothing more than burning a hole in your pocket, and making you look like a fucking retard when you carry the "portable" device around in public.
Oh I'm sorry I forgot about the all-powerful 300MHz ARM CPU and the 64MB RAM.
Perhaps I'll stick with the "overrated laptop" which has TWO CPU's clocked at 600MHz and 430MHz respectively, the earlier capable of overclocking to 900MHz. With twice the amount of RAM and 256MB of onboard flash storage memory AND potential to have two SD cards with a max of 64GB without a USB external hard drive.
It's portable. It's more portable than the PSP for christ's sake; just slightly bigger than DS Lite.
The dual, more powerful CPUs in addition to a GPU make it far more powerful than the PSP.
Plus it has the advantage of a touch screen , full qwerty keyboard, Firefox 3 with proper Flash for things like Youtube which will make surfing the web for more comfortable and generally easier.
Why there is no "l" letter, while choosing the names? Also what with the sound? Well anyway, when i will buy this, i will enjoy FF7 even without sound. Eat that PSP with your 5 hours or something.
FredFuchs96 6 months ago
is there supposed to be sound?
metachrom7 8 months ago
@RetroShinigami Yes they are, They are noticeably larger.
A7XRIDA 10 months ago
I doubt DS emulation, this has a cortex arm 8 processor Single core and the way the DS handles Processes is with an arm7 and arm9 dual setup. Thats the reason emulation of it on PC is so difficult and often is completely pointless as games run like shit. devs havent even found a good way to get it running on PC much less a handheld that has about a quarter the specs of your average modern PC
A7XRIDA 10 months ago
@A7XRIDA
Actually, there's two near-perfect emulators for PC right now-
no$gba, which is REALLY fast, but now discontinued (so you have to patch the crap out of new games)
and desmume, which is REALLY accurate, but a little bit slow as it's not designed for speed.
fearofshorts 8 months ago
Well, the general vibe in the community (from the dev's point of view) is that DS emulation could be quite possible, but not to hold your breath- there's no guarantee as it would require a whole new emulator to be written, rather than just having one ported (Desmume is just too slow for the Pandora).
fearofshorts 11 months ago
Actually...from wut im seeing on the specs....this might be able to emulate the DS...
dakidukno 1 year ago
@dakidukno First the ds has dual screens and playing on this device would not only be unpleasant but impractical. Second just because you think the hardware looks good and is better than the ds doesn't mean it can emulate it. You have to account for the operating system running in the background and the console recreating the ds within the software.
OCNRob 1 year ago
pandora is very expensive, but its OPEN and better then evry Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft handheld
brazzbazz 1 year ago 4
@brazzbazz
Yeah. Especially it is better that Microsoft handheld.
LOPcik 1 year ago
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yawn.... i still wouldn't pay over a buck fifty for this thing.
RichardLeeSousa 1 year ago
Mimical is full of doggy doo doo! PSP's have hundreds of home brew games and programs the psp runs and Nintendo 64 emulator work fine on it too and i have personalty played final fantasy 7 original on a psp too so Pandora ain't that special for being so damn expensive.
RichardLeeSousa 1 year ago
@RichardLeeSousa you just dont get it
blutundeisen 1 year ago 4
can this Pandora play dreamcast, ps 2 or gamecube games????
dont say lower then those because a psp could do that
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx I'm pretty sure it can only run dreamcast....gamecube and ps2 are bit too powerful to emulate on a handheld.
jcudal32 1 year ago
@jcudal32 No, actually it has around the same specs as the Gamecube. Beat out on the GPU by around 50MHz, but it kicks the GC's ass on CPU...by about 120MHz. Take that DS! (The PS2's GPU scored about the same, and it's FINAL CPU just sucked.) This thing can emulate all of them but the Xbox, for it was far ahead of it's time. Check out the Wiki articles for each for the specs if you don't believe me. :)
willofthephoenix 1 year ago
@willofthephoenix Pandora can hardly emulate DC let alone GC or PS2. You need far more processing power to emulate a console than the console's original specs.
jimboododude 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx - Someone was working on dreamcast, not sure when they'll release it. It was very, very slow.
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
@XXXXNanoXXXxxx Nintendo 64 is coming along nicely now, and in a few months should be more than full speed.
wicky615 1 year ago
Haters gonna hate.
With this thing, I'd be able to play all my old games portably, and not have to worry about discs or game cards. It's tempting me even at its price point (WHICH I KNOW IS LOW, I'M JUST CHEAP)
Burnft 1 year ago
This is definitely not the pandora.
itshova 1 year ago
@itshova yes it is
sonikku956 1 year ago
@itshova bull shit its not. its a developer kit from 2008.
dslrocks10 1 year ago
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Actually the pandora has the ability to run PS2, gamecube, and xbox, it's as powerful as the original xbox was systems wise, so all that is very possible, you just won't see anything like Wii or 360 on it xD
Darknightleo18 2 years ago
@Darknightleo18 no unfortunately its not possible emulating a system requires alot more power and sometimes even pure power wont solve the problem like in the case of the Sega Saturn
Rza06 2 years ago 3
Even a 3.0 Ghz Core2Duo PC with a 256 Bit high end GPU with DDR3 VRAM struggles with PS2 emulation so what makes you think Pandora could accomplish it.
Nenyana 2 years ago
@Nenyana PS2 emulation (pcsx2) is quite good with modern gaming pcs. On mine (phenomII x3 @3,2ghz + radeon4850) i can play every game i wanted to play, things like god of war and stuff. But you really need a good high mhz processor for ps2 emulation. Intel cpus are better of course, but my amd does just fine.
clouds5 1 year ago
how and where can i get one some one just point me in the right direction please help always appreciated
xdankboi420x 2 years ago
@xdankboi420x Dude, read the description.
Burnft 1 year ago
can it really play psp? and can it go on the internet??
blbeau 2 years ago
PSP? No. It emulates GBA, PS1, and some other systems of similar power. N64 is work-in-progress. Maybe.
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
Anyone know if this could run Quake Live? Or possibly Half life 1?
SicSolution 2 years ago
It has the power to, but those games are closed-source and x86-only, and Pandora is ARM, so it wouldn't work.
Quakes I - III should work fine, but I don't think Quake Live has an ARM version.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago
Isn't Quake Live a browser game, though? It can be added via a Firefox addon. I'd imagine it'd work (though I'm not sure.)
jourdy288 1 year ago
@jourdy288 - I think it uses an x86 machine code plugin.
Who cares, they have Quake III ported to Pandora, isn't Quake Live only Quake I or II?
cyborgtroy 1 year ago
Awesome! This was probably one of my favorite games of all time ;-)
cfriedt 2 years ago
I mean Card1.mcd, the virtual memory card used by pSX and ePSXe & PCSX, just a file that holds the saves like a memory card does. Most Emulators use virtual memory cards, but not all of them are compatible with one another.
morghanphoenix 2 years ago
Does this use the same memory card format as pSX or will I have to start all my games over again?
morghanphoenix 2 years ago
It uses SD Cards
Nazrat84 2 years ago
Memory card format for the Emulator. I'm well aware that the Pandora used SHDC cards. I run a Playstation Emulator (pSX) on my computer, and was asking if the saves on my virtual memory cards will be transferable.
morghanphoenix 2 years ago
You mean like Drag and Drop?
Nazrat84 2 years ago
I play it on my psp :D
oOk1llm3Oo 2 years ago
Last I read Pandora plays PSP as well lol, pretty much every major system excluding of course this generation of systems as those are way too buff.
Pitraptor 2 years ago
cyborgtroy 2 years ago
Wrong about the DS
Tokiopopski 2 years ago
Oh yeah, I heard someone did a quick port of some DS emulator, and it ran around 3 FPS.
I don't think it's feasible, hardware-wise. I'd like to be proven wrong, but emulation is tricky business.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 4
@cyborgtroy
GBA?
mtgross111 2 years ago
Yeah, there will be GBA emulation for the Pandora. I don't know specifically what emu they're planning to use, but it should work decently.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago
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I Just found the game in my house and i dont have my playstation its at my moms house and it looks like crisis core but youre using cloud
jimmy51yanks 2 years ago
What?
This is the original FF7, where you play as Cloud.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 19
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what a poor fake.... obviously a tv screen
nitoro81 2 years ago
do you have any clue who zodttd is? or what a pandora is? this is the most powerful gaming handheld in the WORLD!!!! besides zod would lie to us
LOZAtItsBest 2 years ago 5
He's given us no proof in the video that it is the pandora handheld.
NexusLegend 2 years ago
true true, but why would he lie. faith my dear friend faith
LOZAtItsBest 2 years ago
@nitoro81
you fucking retard
Yoshimitsu74 1 year ago
Nice, looks like Pandora is much more powerful that GP2X was even thought it was quite powerful already it wasn't able to use all of it's potential for some reason.
Does the PSX4Pandora emulator support game sounds?
Bastiest 2 years ago 6
Wait I remeber that game, It was my first videogame ever! I had it on the playstation
DarkMarch49 2 years ago 3
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I don't really care about the Pandora becuz my CFW psp can run Playstation,NES,SNES,Gameboy,GBA,etc at full speed and I can play N64 at pretty okay speed. If u have a hacked psp theirs pretty much no reason to get a pandora.
Kinsak 2 years ago
Even if PSP's are hacked, they're trash compared to a Pandora. You don't get the point of it. It's for homebrews. People who make programs & games for themselves, and the portability. You're just a gamer. Besides, if you can't get the N64 at full speed, then you don't know what you're doing.
Mimical 2 years ago 33
So pretty much ur saying that Pandoras are for developers and people who like to do it anywhere instead of on their computers and PSP's are for ppl that just play the games. Just asking :)
Kinsak 2 years ago 4
Uhhmm. Yeah. A lot of people I know like the whole portability. I didn't mean any offense, btw.
Mimical 2 years ago
@Mimical i have 347 psp games that run off both my psp 1000 and my 3000 both hacked not mentioning the games for homebrew all in great running speed also the emulators for n64 snes ans nes all running great so plus all the other shit that psp does how are you saying that psp is trash what stuff does the pandora do that psp doesnt im curious because i just found out about it
RichardLeeSousa 1 year ago
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@RichardLeeSousa In addition to this, the device is virtually impossible to brick, as long as you don't modify the hardware you aren't voiding any warranties, you have the possibility of expanding the device using any kind of USB device. Software developers can write code, compile, and test software right on the device, cutting down development times for games, emulators, and applications, etc. The PSP isn't trash, but rather this does so much more.
wicky615 1 year ago
@Mimical LOL hacked psps over this any day. psx emulation has been available forever. and you can pick up a hacked psp for less than a hundred. a pandora costs $350
jaredross1 1 year ago
wicky615 1 year ago
@wicky615 funny thing is you can get a great Laptop that will do all those things, and more for the same price! obviously you bought one of these units and are now trying to justify your purchase. ITS NOT WORTH IT
jaredknight 1 year ago
@jaredknight You find me a laptop that's the same size as the pandora and has gaming controls on it, and folds up and fits in your pocket, and I'll chop my own leg off and eat it.
wicky615 1 year ago
@wicky615 can you honestly fit the pandora in your pocket? LOL cargos don't count
jaredknight 1 year ago
@jaredknight You obviously haven't actually physically seen one. They're a touch bigger than the original Nintendo DS. You can fit in your pocket easy. Stop trollin'.
wicky615 1 year ago
@Mimical Psp is way better..(FACT)
Zomb1eX 9 months ago
Well, except for the part where it has a touchscreen and PDA / mobile Internet software, and where it can play movies and music from SD cards or a wireless network share or a USB flash drive.
But other than that, yeah, just get the PSP and hack it. Hack it as hard as you can, and don't let Sony update your firmware.
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 4
You should read the specs on the PSP and the Pandora. The Pandora is much better and iirc its main processor is double the PSP's, not to mention the additional 110MHz GPU. The Pandora is so powerful it could be argued that it should be in the netbook category of computing.
clownbaton 2 years ago 9
It's as powerful as a netbook, the battery life is on par with cell phones, the size is sort of like a handheld gaming console, and the software library is sort of like a PDA's.
The Pandora is in a class of its own. I don't know if UMPC is quite appropriate since most UMPCs are x86, and apparently non-x86 and non-Windows computers are not personal computers. >_>
cyborgtroy 2 years ago 3
@Kinsak
i hacked your mom, no reason for you to be commenting on this video
Yoshimitsu74 1 year ago
the sony ux imo is a lot better of a buy, it can run even ut 2004 reasonably well and it is windows so the games dont need to be open source so u can play reasonably new games on it. It is way more powerful than this as well.
Pershing121 2 years ago
It doesn't have 8 hours of battery life or gaming controls.
agemsic 2 years ago
arent there umpc's better than this though with full windows features and gmaing (do they have video cards?)? like the OQO model 2+?
Pershing121 2 years ago
UMPCs, the OQO included, can run x86 apps, true, but they won't emulate psx well.
Drgnak 2 years ago
I hate fanboys...
All I was saying was that I personally didn't like the Gameboy, and I hoped that this console will bring some rejuvination back to the handheld platform. So for those of you that still play Fire Emblem and Pokemon on your god damn SP'sL (lol) The Gameboy was garbage, and say whatever you want but 99 percent of the game made for it were just retarded. I can name a few good ones, (Zelda, Wario Ware), but mostly it was stupid companies out to make a fast buck on a crappy game.
meemeesiko57 2 years ago
do you need your pc to be equip with linux in order to interact with pandora (transfering rom etc) since pandora run on it?
masterbay 3 years ago
I didn't know they had this for handheld
TwilightPrincess1106 3 years ago
When I first saw this I was a little skeptical. (The original Xbox ran at somewhere between 600 and 700 MHz.)
But after a little research and watching other videos, I'm really stinking excited about this system. I hope it goes somewhere big, unlike the GameBoy. I'm picking one of these up. No questions asked. I can't wait to try out some of these emulators...
My mouth is watering. lol.
meemeesiko57 3 years ago
The gameboy didn't go big?
1337is1337 3 years ago
I mean, I hope that this is something that lasts for a long time, like the NES. But the Gameboy died out after a decade and a half. And most of the games for it were pretty much garbage. lol.
meemeesiko57 3 years ago
I see what you mean. I don't see the Pandora lasting more than a few years though. Pandora 2 would be able to do everything Pandora did and more, and there would be no reason to hang on to your original Pandora.
Of course, you could say the Gameboy will live on through Pandora as it has with GP32, GP2X and will with the GP2X WiZ and really computer emulators in general, and it throws a wrench into the whole conversation lol.
1337is1337 3 years ago
How did the GameBoy not go big?
The original GameBoy sold 118.69 million
I'm sure the pandora will be good, but its so little advertising means it will struggle to reach even 1 million sales
TechWaveTV 3 years ago
wow i want one, NOW... why haven't i got one yet, well I'll get one in 6 month when I'm 18 and thus able too get a job in a game shop.
SonicsMate 3 years ago
o geez... youtubers
Mistrsam 3 years ago
What is it with all these kiddie insults against sony, geez
ExtremeBogom 3 years ago
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Fuckin consoleporn!
The whole linux thing deters me a little, as ive never used linux before (sucessfully anyway), and it looks alot like a raped DOS.
But the games it plays are pretty sweet.
Is the OS on the pandora really that casual gamer frightening?
Sokonomi 3 years ago
I believe it will behave like a normal consumer device, you shouldn't need to know anything about linux to use it - this was already like that with GP2X, and this device stems from GP2X user community.
A possibility to run desktop Linux software is foreseen though for those who may want it.
3yE 3 years ago
So say id like to run some NES roms, I woulnd have to mount/ziptar/ball/rootthingy and so on? :p
Sokonomi 3 years ago
No, but you might have to click some icons and buttons.
cyborgtroy 3 years ago 3
whens it out in usa?
jimmynew11 3 years ago
you can only order it online...-.-
Hidd3nLeaf 3 years ago
wow , if it can do THAT ..then its cool
vastenmielinen 3 years ago
no sound?
rickyeddieramosrer 3 years ago
Man, wtf, I run it slower on my 1.73ghz dual core computer.
Vodd9 3 years ago
Really? must be because the emulator probably doesn't support dual core? how much ram do you have? and what graphics card?.......then again, ePSXe needs minimal of those so shouldn't really matter, maybe you would have to modify some settings?
MoonOvIce 3 years ago
I got mine on pre-order for the 2008 batch... can't wait:P
kinmanyuen 3 years ago
Yay, I can once again play FF7 on the go again. My psp won'y play Pops anymore. Can't wait. I'm hoping to preorder mine soon.
polyteredfasha 3 years ago
There is likely a simple reason why your Psp will no longer play Pops anymore. It is either memory stick corruption, incorrect pops version, settings of the custom firmware or something related.
CynicalPhuker 3 years ago
Mem stick is fine. It will load the game and freeze once I reach the screen before the main menu. I tried different pops versions. Also, I have 4.01 M33
polyteredfasha 3 years ago
:o mine is fine w/
4.01 m33-2
g1mpy 3 years ago
i remember the days....
iL3yt0n22 3 years ago
i want this so bad
mark3105 3 years ago
this shit is going to kick major ass!
Im Currently a gp2x f-200 users and since most of the gp2x community is involved in this im most certainly gonna get this right here.
My PSP crapped out on me and the PSP games sucked ass...even when i could get them for free via ISO or CSO files they sucked so bad i used my psp for emulation MORE than i did with PSP games. Now thats saying something.
So PSP fanboys, please shut up. Cuz ive been there, and it was the worst thing i ever could of bought.
CUTWEST 3 years ago
OH FUCK FFVII on a handheld?
can there be a better thing :D
RadditzZ 3 years ago 6
AWSOOOOOME
ValugaTheLord 3 years ago
It's great !!
I want this machine :D :D :D
phenixsaint 3 years ago
is the pandora powerful enough for ....a pc or ps2 battlefront 2 emulation?
oocotter 3 years ago
its powerfull enough to run doom 3
fergusshowman89 3 years ago
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whats doom 3 may i ask? so its powerful enough to run gamecube ps2 and xbox?
oocotter 3 years ago
it's so powerful it can even emulate an xbox 360 that emulate a ps3 on it.
pwEclipse 3 years ago 4
i think an SD card cant hold a ps3 or 360 game
oocotter 3 years ago
64gb SD cards are available... the size of a bluray disc is 50gb
In other words. an SD card can easily hold a 360 or a ps3 game.
Will they be played on the pandora? Hell no.
cjbgf1 3 years ago 2
heh, true
oocotter 3 years ago
xbox 360 use regular dvd's, that is < 8.54 GB.
mirabilis 3 years ago
i know, the ps3 uses bluray which has more storage, by proving a SD card can hold a full ps3 game it should be Common sense that it can hold the smaller 360 DVD. e
GenericInsect1979 3 years ago
"64gb SD cards are available... the size of a bluray disc is 50gb
In other words. an SD card can easily hold a 360 or a ps3 game."
A dual layer Bluray is 50GB.
Bluray discs can have up to 16 layers, which is 400GB.
You ain't fitting that on a SD card any time soon.
CPS2 3 years ago
and name a single ps3 game that uses 16 layers?
cjbgf1 3 years ago
Why? Will that make your original generalisation more accurate?
CPS2 3 years ago
the point is, not a single ps3 game uses 16x layer blu-ray discs..... dual layered blue ray games are the highest you get at the moment.
so yes, you can still put a ps3 game on a SD card.
even if/when they do get some crazy 16x layer blu ray games (btw, 16x layers are not even out yet, they have only just been tested).... you ignore the fact SD card sizes are also increasing, so it is more than possible you could hold 4oogb games on them in a few years time.
cjbgf1 3 years ago
Technically, the SDHC standard only allows for 32 gigabyte file limits. Though, while the specification limits it to 32 gigabytes, it is technically possible to go higher. That might cause problems for some devices, though. So, we may or may not see larger SD cards coming out. It's about time for a new standard anyway...
Zencyde 3 years ago
I'm not sure that Blu-Ray can hold 400GB
but if it can, then I'm gonna kill those motherf**kers who still haven't made 1080p HD games...
I mean, I bought a Full HDTV for nothing?
I wanted Uncharted as Full HD... *sniff*
Keyaku1 3 years ago
This is not the question of size, but of processing power - the GPUs are just not quite there yet in terms of raw fillrate for any sane price.
3yE 3 years ago
the 3d resolution of rendered objects has nothing to do with the size of the game. It's not a storage limit issue, it's a processing power limit issue.
Terikan2 2 years ago
64GB SD cards cost more than some games just for the media itself.
They're good for handhelds, but they can't meet the storage size yet.
cyborgtroy 3 years ago
Blu-ray is unessecary...
ALPHAHXCORE 3 years ago
Perhaps you could explain to the nice people at home why you think a storage medium that has higher access speeds and a much greater capacity than DVD is "unessecary"...
CPS2 3 years ago 3
blue ray is a waste of time and money
Postmortemattack 3 years ago 2
Why?
CPS2 3 years ago
Because it's expensive. And because optical media generally suck.
cyborgtroy 3 years ago
storing data on light, you should look that up.
CrusnikofChaos 3 years ago
whut?
cyborgtroy 3 years ago
yo man, u should know by now all new technology has its price, but its not a waste of time, i saved up 3 weeks pay to purchase on and 4 dvds and ill personally tell there is clear difference in quality
Enjoi2skate4u 3 years ago
i know i hate better quality dvds at the highest resolution! ITS SO ANNOYING SEEING REALLY GOOD DEFINITION QUALITY!
seanisagamer 3 years ago
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steelxenon 2 years ago
no, not quite lol
williamkendrick 3 years ago
wtf you're wrong man
it's actually just powerful enough to run an emulated version of Crysis that has been emulated on an EEE PC desktop Photoshop. I know my stuff
laesperanzapaz 3 years ago
WOOOOW. doom3 is like, the latest release of a series of games spanning 20+ years; doom. it's incredibly graphics heavy, and serious cpu usage is necessary.
Also, you're an idiot.
williamkendrick 3 years ago
no need to be a bitch
oocotter 3 years ago 7
to run doom 3 if it was ported, maybe.
PS2/PC emulation? not a recent PC game, maybe something on Win 95 or 98 through Dosbox...
check the wiki. PS2 will probably not happen. PS2 hardly even works on a normal PC haha xD
remember emulation requires MASSIVE amounts of horsepower!
CCmachine 3 years ago 3
is the pandora powerful enough 4 n64 emulation
ultm8ninja 3 years ago
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pandora will be a failure
BurOmisais 3 years ago
you cant say that right now maybe it will maybe it wont
Chaosturner 3 years ago
the launch date is November sometime, so wait til then.
CCmachine 3 years ago 2
you people cannot understand what i was trying to say. so just wait till it comes and we'll see what a pandora can do. this is my final word.
ps4real000 3 years ago
By 2004, transistor size was about 1/2.286th it was in 2000.
1/2.2.286 = 0.438.
The die size of the PS2CPU is 240mm^2.
The root of 240 is 15.49
The necessary side length of an equivalent 2004 CPU would need to be 6.77.
6.77^2 = 45.94
The PSPCPU is probably larger than 46 mm^2.
ps4real000 sent me a PM saying that he was a "computer expert", and said that the PSP only has a "few thousands of transistors." If he can lie and be so wrong about that, I don't think he's right in any of his comments.
Naturality 3 years ago 3
The only thing I don't like about this thing is the pricetag... Hopefully it'll come down in price one day. I hope someone does a port of Marathon to this.
ThisIsEDX 3 years ago
John Blanchard might. :D
lmcgregoruk 3 years ago
So much talk....and you missed the point entirely!
Its not the hardware it has, its how to work AROUND it to reach our objectives.
You know John Carmack?
You know! That grade-A mega geek from ID?
Well, he says the iPhone could be a better games platform than a PSP and a NDS...
Now do be so kind as to check the specs on the iPhone, and then report back here to compare with the Pandora.
Curious diferences, aren't there?
Seriously mate, you gotta start thinking less specific, and more abstract.
00Resev 3 years ago
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there is no shader support for the SGXlite. all you shader operations can still be done, but in software.anti-aisling is the second one. it kinda sucks on the sgx. The third one is the gl's clipping software. it sucks hard, and can be a pain to work with. a haven't found any good ways to deal this this as of yet. in a long story short-- you cant do a lot with the pandora, and there's NOT a lot of potential in it. this is all the technical yada-yada they don't want you to know.
ps4real000 3 years ago
part 1
what do you mean ofcore there is shade support
you are taking about there is no SGXlite there are only # SGX520 (7 MPolys/sec), and SGX530 (14 MPolys/sec) for the handheld mobile market
# SGX535 and SGX540 (28 MPolys/sec) for handheld high end mobile, portable, MID, UMPC, consumer, and automotive devices
# SGX540, SGX545, SGX 550 (100 MPolys/sec) and SGX555 for advanced consumer devices, laptop, and desktop products
and they all support shaders
andri12 3 years ago
@
ps4real000
part 2
# exceeding requirements of OpenGL 2.0 and up to DirectX 10.1 Shader Model 4.1 you do nou that powervr SGX are the most atvans and powerful grafx cores that you can get on mobile
andri12 3 years ago
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that number of polygons is the amount per second, but your game will run at say 30 frames per second. you'll be looking at 50,000 polygons per frame. now, this with without texturing, and actually, these aren't polygons either. they are lines all connected together using the GL_LINE_STRIP method actually. lines do count as polygons (I think the lines' thickness are two polygons, or quads made from two vertices)
ps4real000 3 years ago
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ive been working on a pandoras (powervrSGX) GPU. pandora's gpu has a peak of 14mil polys/s.now, on a realistic level, ive been able to render +5,000 3D textured vertices a frame without adding in all my optimization code for bsp tree support, or octree support. actually, ive had scenes up to 35,000 vertices with texture, and movement all working at 10-25 fps. without mesh to sphere collision detection on, and without lighting and and blitting on. all texturing was 32 bit on 32 bit framebuffers.
ps4real000 3 years ago
ps4real000 @ you say you have bin working pandoras (powervrSGX) GPU when it is not even out i think a max 100 people have dev boards
you taking about grifix also you have to remember that the powervr SGX use Tiled rendering
andri12 3 years ago
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..almost as powerful as a GC cpu? lol,they are hyping it, just like sony did with psp, saying that is almost as powerful as a ps2. what a lie.. psp is not even CLOSE to a ps2, the ps2 cpu is five to ten times times more powerful. by the way... you are never going to see games like god of war: coo on a pandora. bear with it. you will only play crappy games like quake. why sony never used ARM cores for their products? because arm SUCKS DICK and sony knows that. sony is the boss, you cant beat sony
ps4real000 3 years ago
Quake is so much a better game than god or war, and... no one want the pandora to play ps2 games. It can handle fullspeed psx emulation and even n64 with optimizations mayb be not a dream, no one wants Crysis on an handheld
pwEclipse 3 years ago 5
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this is going to fail like the gp2x. i mean come on, you think it is more powerful than a psp? emulating psx games aint shit. ARM cpu's always sucked dick, and they still do. a 333 mhz MIPS32R2 ISA is more powerful than a 600, or even 1ghz ARM cpu.(btw the psp cpu Is not a R4000, they probably meant MIPS32-4k and everyone misunderstood. It implements a slightly modified MIPS32R2 ISA (which is a DESKTOP core on a PORTABLE device) pandora has the lite version of ti omap 3550 (800mflops)
ps4real000 3 years ago
what i read from your reply is that you nou nothing about ARM and mips cores the ARM Cortex-A8 core that is in the omap3530 that power the pandora is 4-5 times more powerful than the mips core that is in the psp also there is powerful dsp in pandora which can help with many things like video and to reply arm cores tend to have the best DMIPS/MHz like the ARM Cortex-A8 has 2.0 DMIPS/MHz
andri12 3 years ago
also, the gp2x is not failed at all, it's a niche market console, with a great community, of course it's not supported by a commercial giant such sony, but who fucking cares? no need for stupid hacks to play emualators and homebrew games, so put your psp up your ass and shut up
pwEclipse 3 years ago
Yeah!I'm PSP owner and i can't agree more.PSP sucks.Open Source foreverrrrrrrrrrrrr
punkpop101 3 years ago 2
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Fucktarrrrrrd
algomat 3 years ago
I cant wait 4 the release of the Pandora :)
ShadyGT5 3 years ago
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Pandora = Flop
Get a PSP and run the game on there for fuck's sake.
The Pandora is an overrated laptop, capable of nothing more than burning a hole in your pocket, and making you look like a fucking retard when you carry the "portable" device around in public.
KRug47 3 years ago
Someone sound like a fanboy.
The Pandora has much more power for stuff like emulation, and is easier to develop on because it is all open source. No hacking required.
cloud858rk 3 years ago 3
it has better Res then the PSP
PimpMatt0 3 years ago 4
Oh I'm sorry I forgot about the all-powerful 300MHz ARM CPU and the 64MB RAM.
Perhaps I'll stick with the "overrated laptop" which has TWO CPU's clocked at 600MHz and 430MHz respectively, the earlier capable of overclocking to 900MHz. With twice the amount of RAM and 256MB of onboard flash storage memory AND potential to have two SD cards with a max of 64GB without a USB external hard drive.
It's portable. It's more portable than the PSP for christ's sake; just slightly bigger than DS Lite.
LessthanJake14 3 years ago 3
The dual, more powerful CPUs in addition to a GPU make it far more powerful than the PSP.
Plus it has the advantage of a touch screen , full qwerty keyboard, Firefox 3 with proper Flash for things like Youtube which will make surfing the web for more comfortable and generally easier.
I hate the current PSP text input system.
Naturality 3 years ago
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How do we ACTUALLY KNOW you're running this on a Pandora? See, because you haven't shown the device once. However, I've see Cloud before.
crlake 3 years ago
why is there no sound on your vids?
THE7thHAND 3 years ago
I don't think he finished sounds for the emulator.
weaselman50 3 years ago
the kernal dosent suport sound
nate9771 3 years ago