Part 3: FEMA tells you prepare, FBI labels you a terrorist, NDAA puts you in a FEMA camp

[Rheacat1]

Why do people who are escaping a disaster need to be fenced in? To protect them from something? What?? To keep them from escaping?

[Amillionmes]

The Jews want to round us up and torture us to death, like they did to the Russians starting in 1917.

[iondetox]

Everyone called Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist when he first reported it. Same with 9/11 same with OKC bombing, same with chemtrails and spraying and killing our land, same with military bringing in cocaine shipping drugs in, shipping guns south, and All the people who stood up and yelled Conspiracy Theorist provided protection for the crooks who are fixing to take your stuff. It's to late now.. the gangstas have all the power and they will not give it back.

[JagdtygerII]

If we are actually allowed to have an election in 2012 and we fail to elect Ron Paul as our 45th President of the United States. Then ALL hope of peaceful restoration of our Constitution and our Individual Liberties will have been lost.

I saw this coming back in '72 when I was in the US Military, I saw the erosion of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights and I was a lonely voice crying in the Wilderness. Well the war is on the horizon and it is "all hands on deck" time in America.

[TheStreets007]

Life in America is about to change in huge unimaginable ways. Most people are going to be caught unprepared and unaware of what is going on. Most of these folks closed their ears, and didn't want to hear the numerous warnings that went out over the many years.

Pray for strength and wisdom for how to prepare for what's coming.

[Paladine71]

There is of course the possibility that they are talking about erecting these fenced camps on disaster locations to protect the responders and their equipment from vandalism and theft. Responders do this all of the time, an example being the Red Cross and their Emergency Response Vehicles (ERVs) to feed people. They have to have a secure location to park the trucks and let the volunteers rest. Just stating a possibility. Perhaps the fences aren't to keep people in, but to keep people out.

[ConstitutionDefence]

@Paladine71 That is a possibility, and that is certainly the overt justification. But, having this so closely coincide with new authority to indefinitely detain Americans under SB 1867 (NDAA) it certainly gives one pause to consider the covert intentions for these camps. Perhaps these camps will be used as temporary military bases to house responders (i.e. infantry forces) tasked with suppressing a popular uprising. Once the fences are erected, the potential uses are many.

[Paladine71]

@ConstitutionDefence Prudence demands we be open to all possibilities, and there are too many indicators pointing in the direction that you suggest to be ignored by those knowledable of history. We must not be too hasty. We must prepare, but not be too anxious for an option that will result in so much destruction. It is a one-way path, and a bloody one. I've heard Alex Jones dividing us for years, most of the military are on our side, yet people are being told that they are our enemy.

[PeaknikMicki]

@Paladine71 history shows that military follows orders. It happened in Germany, Sovjet, China, Japan, Cambodia etc etc ad nauseum.

Prudence therefore also requires you don't assume military will step in to prevent a totalitarian regime, genocide, war crimes etc.

Few brave dissenters that dare voice up are made examples off.

[Paladine71]

@PeaknikMicki History is also full of examples of the military refusing orders and even conducting a coup to take control from the government. While this has not yet happened here in the U.S., it has in other places around the world, and is not impossible here. We'll have to wait and see. I can say this though, there is discontent in our military currently.

[PeaknikMicki]

@Paladine71 further to my last post; take the My Lai massacre as example; Most soldiers joined in on the killing, raping, torturing even though it was an obvious war crime against civilain children, women and elderly. A cpl injured themselves to get away and from what I know one single person acted to stop it. Had he been removed all of My Lay 4 would have been wiped out. (Only main culprit got housearrest for a short period despite Nuremberg laws demaning sentencing for individual soldiers)

[Paladine71]

@PeaknikMicki I think this is more of a human condition than one specific to military forces. After all, I just watched several riots this past week based on a pair of shoes. When you think about My Lai, you have to remember to take it in context. The Soldiers there has severals of their own killed in the area of this massacre and were under incredible stress. It was a trajedy, but it was also an exception, far from the norm.

[1Rockbilly]

@Paladine71 Which way does the barbed wire at the top of the fences face? It is always aimed in the direction of the people they are trying to control...The ones I have seen point inward. Indicating they are intended to detain ppl inside the fence not outside.

[Paladine71]

@1Rockbilly That depends on which camps you are referring to. The permanent ones that we see posted on the Internet does have the wire turned in, I don't disagree. The folks in this video are talking about contingency plans to set up mobile camps. Since they are not up yet, we don't really know which way the wire will face. We don't know if this is related. They are linking together dots into a grand conspiracy, when we don't have proof yet. I'm reluctant to assume.

[1Rockbilly]

@Paladine71 I was throwing it out there as a generality I guess we will have to wait and see what they do before we will know on a case by case basis. I intend to err on the side of caution and assume they are up to no good until they prove to me otherwise. Given the folks involved and their track record over the past few decades, I am assuming the worse. Wish we had the wherewithal to stock supplies close to the locations in case we needed to break folks out and supply them in a hurry

[PeaknikMicki]

@Paladine71 One would hope so, but what bothers me is footage of already existing camps, complete with guard towers and barb wire on top of fence tilted inwards to prevent not ppl from outside to get in but someone on the inside to climb out.

[Paladine71]

@PeaknikMicki Yes, I've seen the pictures and video, and I'm aware of the history of the political movement now in power in the U.S. That political ideology has an incredibly bloody history in Europe and Asia, and they are gaining in strength here too. I'd say prepare and stay alert.

[293DELSOLS]

In the days of Hitler's successful grip on the people of his country, there was total oppression. He stood up and promised many this would change if they followed him. Then he turned stupid on them and started forcing (at pain of death) specific radicals (SS) to do things outside normal human character. Kind of like Stalin did in Russia.

Sorry, but I dont see evidence of that anywhere in North America. We are too connected for that today.

Adding fear does not help anyone. Objectivity might.

[293DELSOLS]

Just some thoughts to consider. Maybe being objective would help all people better understand.

I will not say you are wrong, or even say I disagree, but it just seems to me that good people do not generally make up and support "agendas" like are being thrown around in these conspiratorial type, one-sided reports.

Anything is possible I suppose, but many are trying to link the actions of the likes of Hitler to what they fear could happen here.

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[293DELSOLS]

5. The FBI flyer that went out to retailers went to ARMY SURPLUS retailers as these seem to be the havens for the more active resisters in society that are filled with a delusion that the "establishment" is out to get them. Hmmm. Seems to me the FBI hit on a pretty reasonable target area.

6. FEMA would rather we be prepared and so would the government. No one really likes to babysit those who choose helplessness as their way in life.

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[293DELSOLS]

3. Perhaps someone in government "woke up" since Katrina and Rita hurricanes and sees that a plan needs to be in place in anticipation of these kinds of events to mitigate the excessive losses and hardships of the affected region and its people.

4. Labelling someone as a terrorist needs to be done by "people". The average "person" gets suspicious of anyone who is performing very suspicious acts. Normally people are pretty complacent about most things.

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[293DELSOLS]

2. When have you heard of a contract getting limited to exact specifications when a government body issues it. The contractor always gets "cost plus". The contractor is the expert and will end up making the case that 86 sq ft is not enough room for each person and will be building much bigger sites as a result. They get more money for this anyway.

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[293DELSOLS]

Hate to be a party pooper on your theories but perhaps people need to consider a few things before condemning the "powers that be":

1. FEMA is an organisation to assist (help) in the face of disaster. Generally people need to be lead because they cannot control themselves without some form of guidance.

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[john25rs2001]

Damnit....I thought we had more time......lolz