PS- I obviously meant, the New South Wales Government! They're going to allow 'investigating' to see what Uranium resources are here, if any! They'll allow CSG unless we stop it!
Coal seam Gas mining should cease NOW. There should be an indepth inquiry, perhaps with the powers of a Royal Commission, and the public should be involved all the way through. This is too important to take any risks? I live in the Illawarra - NSW Sth Coast. There's already applications to mine for CSG in our water catchment areas. This is beyond crazy! The NSW gives lip service publicly, but privately they're allowing more mining to take place. It's not going to happen here - we will oppose it!
the people in this movie like debbie orr are liars and fed bullshit,.......whatever hole her kid was bleeding from wasnt caused by csg, that part of this movie was a proven lie , and maybe the 1000's of people employed i nthe csg industry would be bleeding out our ears eyes buttholes????? i think not......... see, people see the movie gasland and think its the same in Aust...its not.... its heavily regulated by the government and if it was bad for the enviroment we wouldnt be allowed to do it
@getdownaustralia Yeah... believe it or not methane is an environmental issue too. Here in the US, we literally have thousands of acres of cattle that produce tons of methane by just pooping, but we need our burgers! So instead the meat industry works out ways to produce enough meat in undesirable, inhumane conditions just so some suffering lower-class family can afford the next KFC meal. The upper-class people can afford Whole Foods Market! The lower-class can't. So we'll just get fatter.
@Creedo77 Actually I do, I'm an activist and I don't read half a sentence from some random article and make up my mind based on that but rather commit myself to actual reading and study where one actually sits down for an extended period of time and does so on many occasions and reads extensively. You no doubt dismiss plain facts and prefer to believe that CSG mining is a good thing and not dangerous at all.
hahahah, ok then, ..... but its not dangerous, water tables underground get cased off with cement and steel casing, water tests are done , and what would you prefer? a coal fired power station or a csg powered one??? there is a huge gas feild near moranbah and the farmer who owns the land still runs his cattle on it.... no problems.
@Creedo77 The best thing humanity can possibly do at juncture is to make a full transition to 100% renewable energy within the next 10 years if we want to push it. To assert that it is not dangerous is simply stupid foolish, it quite clearly is very dangerous despite the rhetoric of the mining companies. BTW, the results of the only real water tests that have been done have never been released in their entirety.
csg in Aust is no where near similar to america, so i just belive that you saw that movie gasland and are on your high horse and crying because you have nothing better to do
@Creedo77 To say that we don't need to worry because CSG mining in Australia is nothing like it in the US is absurd. While many of the techniques used in the US are supposedly not going to be used here, the proposed techniques to be used here are still no better and still pose a genuine threat not only to the local environment but to the local people's health. BTW, you can believe what you want, but know that believing what you do makes you either ignorant or simply an idiot.
@xtremelygoodlookin The government hasn't done research into the system and there are no regulations for Coal Seam Gas miners so therefore how do we know the miners arnt using the same process as they have done in the US. More over 50% of the wells tested by the government leak gas and when this gas is leaking it is twice as bad for the environment. So I don't believe we can say that this is safe to do...
@cool12117 It would not suprise me if they are or are going to use the same processes here that they do in the US, if you think I'm pro-CSG I'm not. Thats what I picked up from your comment anyway.
Of course they've done research. The research showed it was profitable. Therefore Australians get to have their country ruined so a few companies, their shareholders and the government can all profit. Who needs a future?
as profit is dependent on life for value water then water = greater source of value than gas hence charge CSGM companies a greater value per unit of water used than the value per unit natural gas mined. as the ecosystem service offered by an aquifer is likely to be calculated in the hundreds of billions of dollars any mining licence offered should come with a clause of full monetary accountability for any water contamination.
Coal Seam Gas being compared to open cut mining is justifiable. They say the open cut mining is worse, but with the CSG mining, it's all done underground. All the damage that will be done will be where no one can see it, and the suffering of polluted water will come into full effect in 20 - 30 years. Australia is a dry continent and the idea of fracking 45,000 wells in Queensland alone is ridiculous. The gas profits from the mining aren't even worth it. Five cents per litre. It is not worth it.
would be living in a tent. I bet everyone watched the "gasland" movie and they assume that it happens in Australia, when if they looked into the companies and enviromental procedures you would see otherwise. what would you rather a gas well or an open cut mine?? csg is the future of clean energy so why not jump on board?? the biggest threat to coal seam gas is peoples ignorance and lack of understanding and infomation. god dam fucking uneducated blockies and god dam fucking hippies
ok, here we go...... what is "it" they dont want???... no one even knows what they are talking about in this propaganda movie. there is so much enviromental legislation etc that if it was bad the government would shut it down, you kids nose bleed didnt have anything to do with coal seam gas, read some infomation on it for christs sake. I love how all these people love their little protest groups but you all have power, use gas, drive cars etc and if there were no mines or coal seam gas you.
@getupaustralia G'day... Part 1), I agree that CSG Wells, & Fracking, & Fcuking Aquifers is Vile Vandalism, & I wonder if there's any proof that Miners are fully human ?
Part 2), I'm a Green Extremist, I use Trespassing Sheep for Archery Practice, on my Endangered Species Sanctuary... And, it's pretty funny to see y'all Rednecks suddenly wake up to Reality. Economics is Bullshit, it's a failed Experiment, & something must be saved for afterwards !
If it's causing that much disturbance under ground how can it not mess up the aquifers... Let alone the chemicals... Do they want us to have to import our food from china or something... Coles and Woolies don't mind... better profit margins...
@AlMoore they already do, see the report last night saying that china sell to NZ they relabel the toxic veggies and then sell them to us..! CSG has been going on for ten yrs i nQLD apparently, now they want a piece of everywhere.
When I left school I worked on the roads for a year or two while I was studying. I worked in the QA lab and we used Trichloroethane (liquid paper thinner)to strip bitumen for testing
The old guys had stories about using Toluene!! That stuff is gnarley cancer producing stuff you would want to even smell let alone drink!! If they're using that to cut through the coal to get to the gas we are in big trouble. It's all happening so quick and it doesn't take much imagination that we are in big trouble
Everyone should watch the documentary Gasland. It was directed by an American in 2010 it's about hydraulic fracturing & how it destroys just about everything. I believe that it is a non bias source; that shows the correct outcome of such practice.
Coal Seam Gas has been proven to be destructive and toxic. Just go watch the documentary Gaslands. People have already been massively effected by it, they have to actually go out and BUY THE WATER because the gas has leaked into the water supply, people can even set the water on FIRE! We HAVE to stop this!!! Before it is too late!
yeah we should destroy an industry that provides power to large areas of australia and has the potential to power all of australia, just cause a few farmers cant deal with it. go farm somewhere else if you dont like it ya cunts!
I can't wait for you guys to find another band wagon to jump on! 98% of the people protesting about CSG know nothing of the drilling industry or the practices that take place. A few hippies make a bit of noise to the media and you are all over it. Get some real knowledge before you carry on with your sensationalized crap.
@splitty77 im sick of one line tags used to denigrate anothers point of view and giving the name caller carte blanche to disregard. at the moment its 'greenie' in the past its been 'commie' or 'hippy' used ot shoot down in one foul swoop differing views. all views are worth listening to and whats right probably lies somewhere inbetween. but calling those who oppose CSGM greenies and radicals is plain wrong. is it radical to take a considered approach to land stewardship? is it radical to treat..
@splitty77 is it radical to treat the land as something more than just another source of profit? the stakes are to high to resort to name calling and its not just the effects on our land and water table but the right of other human beings to live in their homes without being surrounded by gas wells and pipelines. if as human beings we have learnt anything from our past experiences its that we sholdnt rush into these types of issues wihtout a full understanding of the consequences...
@splitty77 ... those who use the word 'greenie' are trying to portray those who seek caution and an understanding of what we are getting ourselves into, aswell as the concerns of the communities who will have to live with CSGM as flimsy pot smoking dreadlocked and un washed waifs. when in reality those who care about the environment come from all walks of life. i myself am an environemental biologist hardly the vocation idealist anti capitolist as the greenie yellers would have believe.
To be honest, I was indifferent to coal seam gas before seeing this video. I may have even been a bit for it. This video has really opened my eyes to how bad it can be. Resources are an important part of the Australian economy, but we need to put common sense and the well being of our people ahead of increasing profits of an already very wealthy and secure industry sector.
@D4M14N1989 The onus should be on the CSG to prove it is safe, and not on the Australian public to prove its dangerous. I think anyone can agree that it is illogical to have it the other way around.
Seems like 14 or so CSG exec's didn't like this video. I hope they can read the writing on the wall. It says "Wake the frack up and smell your future burning".
STOP CSG. We would be so much better off investing in a clean energy future. Why ruin the planet. All these idiotic executives that think it's OK to ruin our country, because they can move somewhere else with all the money will one day find there is nowhere left to live that isn't ruined by what they have done. Stop Mining our children's futures. It's something that can't be replaced.
I'm all for CSG, its good for the economy, its good for the nation. Who cares if a tiny bit of land gets damaged? Stop crying you babies! This is a first world problem
@RileyWG no shill im deadly serious ! i dont want to shower in water with methane in it, i dont want the ground water of my planet undermined, i dont want methane in the air i breathe and i dont want four hundred trucks rolling through my town. etc. whats so 'dumb' about that?
We should be investing in renewable energy, which is clean, safe, and never runs out. Even if they could guarantee to make CSG 100% safe (which they can't), it too is a fossil fuel and will therefore run out one day. Only someone who is greedy and irresponsible would even consider risking the long-term health of the Great Artesian Basin for short-term profits.
The way to stop something like this is for EVERYONE to get outraged and voice that outrage to the politicians allowing it to happen. Make them famous and inundate them with phone calls. Put the pressure on them. Threaten to do everything in your power to make sure they are replaced and if the next people do the same thing, do it over again. Government only has the power that the people allow them to either by willingly giving it or by not doing anything about it.
Trashing the water table in the name of 'creating jobs' is just not going to work in the short or long term. As if the water wasn't unfit enough to drink with all the fluoride dumped in it, now people in rural areas also have to worry about contamination from CSG?
I absolutely detest GetUp's position on the carbon tax (HUGE scam), but I agree with them on this issue for sure.
@alexvrynios parties like the nats and the greens aren't trying to win govt, they know they can't, what they want is enough sitting members to have a decent amount of leverage in the House. That's why it can be a good thing to have plenty of independents and minor party members in the house to keep the big parties in check and not just kowtowing to a Liberal/labor going-nowhere-fast agenda.
Not only are the farmers being payed a large sum of money for CSG companies use of their land they use (which in australia land owners dont own resources). Also gives youth in rural areas constructive jobs and live facilities where they can develop skills. Also the australian govt. regulate the CSG industry quite tough with water run off samples aswell as water table samples (if they fail huge fines). Look @ industry and see the greater good this industry helps our country -_-
@310sucks haha is that what you reckon? you need to quit being a faggot or keep at it even more so u can catch aids from another queer who thinks the same way you do.
lol its funny watching a video of people talking about a process they dont understand, and relate random medical issues back to CSG. Look at the process of extraction and water purification and the benefits of the Jobs Australia will get, our natural resources have saved us from the second tanking of the US economy.
@greanteee Agree that they are talking about processes they dont understand and it shows, however watch Gas Land documentary, the people living in the areas in the US are not so happy either... unable to use their own tap water etc. A lot more research needs to be done first before anything goes ahead.
@greanteee dude the great artesian basin... it will be destroyed. CSG won't even tell the public what chemical are in the extraction technique because they are cowards and they know the public will hate them from destroying the water table.
babyboomers are the first generation to denie farm leases for x y z generations and then expect them to help with CSG....you gotta to be kidding ,,just do what you all do sell your farm to a overseas buyer and say you deserve it and its your superanuation and live happily ever after in the city , the rule was work the farm or get off .. now its work until you cant be bothered then get a buyer ,and guess what no x y z has the money so property by property we are taken over by overseas companies
babyboomers are the first generation to denie farm leases for x y z generations and then expect them to help with CSG....you gotta to be kidding ,,just do what you all do sell your farm to a overseas buyer and say you deserve it and its your superanuation and live happily ever after in the city , the rule was work the farm or get off .. now its work until you cant be bothered then get a buyer ,and guess what no x y z has the money so property by property we are taken over by overseas companies
The Great Artesian Basin is the largest artesian basin in the world. The water in it is millions of years old. If we pollute it, there's no back-up supply, and there's no way to fix it.
mining needs to stop. but as for the green party, they have a few good intentions concerning the environment only, the way they want to implement their policies, and the rest of their policies for running the country are very scary. if bob brown was a dictator of australia, we'd all be so heavily controlled, unable to do anything incase u killed a fly, big brother would watch you go to the bathroom and insects would have more rights than humans. the greens party are not legit.
@t0ms1 Seriously? these people live within 200 meters of a gas seam, not the small amount which is Burnt on your kitchen stove. Think about these things before you post a comment showing your ignorance.
@t0ms1 Of natural gas I don't know of a link to cancer but the process of hydraulic fracturing "fracking" to obtain the gas is likely what is being referred to. water + sand + chemicals are injected underground ....The Wikipedia article on hydraulic fracturing is full of citations -- i was trying to find what chemicals are used . "About 750 chemicals have been listed as additives for hydraulic fracturing in a report to the US Congress in 2011" -
@tetranoob That list includes 29 chemicals that are either known or possible carcinogens or are regulated by the federal government because of other risks to human health.
@splitty77 You mean "they're" and you obviously haven't looked. You should start getting educated or stay out of said argument. You could just watch TV (obviously that statement came from 60 minutes) but everyone knows the media doesn't portray the full story.
@dillihag Yeah and who is DERM Ya Halfwit? the Bloody Government......Who's pushing CSG? The Government..! If you belive their protecting the People of Australia's Furture U live in La La Land!
@dillihag true. i checked the AGL website and eventually found a pdf of chemicals that may be used in fraccing. here is an excerpt :o) "Terpenes/terpenoids/sweet orange oil Used to reduce surface tension to aid in gas flow Used in pharmaceuticals, contributes to the flavour of cinnamon, cloves and ginger" that is one of the 45 on the list. very interesting in that each chemical has a description in layman's terms. I regard myself as a layman
@Halos1987 *Facepalm*. Solar and Geothermal Energy. We have enough potential Geothermal energy to power the entirety of Australia almost indefinitely. You know, assuming that the Earth's core doesn't suddenly decide to take a vacation.
im just glad that we vote for these dickheads who make these decisions. Who out there is interested in protesting and standing up to government policies. who will actually take the time in person to give these pollies hell and anguish for there decisions. computers tvs radio can be ignored and turned of. Backhoes and bulldozers and drill rigs on Parliament properties might just prove the double standards of Australian bureaucracy. Lets prove a point. Dig up our Parliament properties and be heard
@Gazmanaust Youtube doesn't work like that, paid videos are in the promoted section and have a yellow boarder around them, trending videos are videos that people are sharing around alot and getting a large number of views withing a local area (hense Australia)
@dctcool billabong does it too, it's had videos with 500 views and 20 likes in the trending section which have been out for a week. happens like clockwork. youtube is a business, of course they will put videos in trending for money.
@Gazmanaust You're looking at the Featured videos section, that section regularly promoted paid partners on Youtube to increase revenue completly different from the trending section and its not just billabong you also see videos there from ten, take40, and video content partners like AngryAussie CommunityChannel etc. And yes I've met the guys at the Google HQ in Sydney myself I know how the site works
@dctcool i've been on youtube for years i know the difference between the featured/spotlight/trending sections. years ago it was a lot more common/less subtle than now, with newly appointed youtube partners 'suddenly' appearing on your recommended videos even if you watched nothing relevant to it. the billabong video was in the trending section, it was also on the trending worldwide page with barely any views. there were forum posts on multiple websites saying how BS it was.
@overhang88 ... No. The way that the mining industry is set up in Australia is ridiculous. Contrary to what people seem to think, it doesn't pump money into the Australian economy.
Perhaps you're talking more about coal mining than mining in general. In that case, not only are you misinformed, but you are an idiot in general. Fossil fuels powered the old world. They don't need to power this one. Renewable energies that don't burn holes in your wallet / the environment > fossil fuels that do.
I dont like my job, but I need it to survive so I don't whine about it
Australia needs mining, you may not like it, but please don't whine about it
If you can maically produce the BILLIONS of dollars that mining pumps into the economy then by all means have a cry that coal mining is happening. Until then just deal with it. Nothing sadder then when people complaining about mining, it shows that you are only doing it to feel good about yourself
It's a breathtaking hypocrisy from Anna Bligh, Julia Gillard and Barry O'Farrell to preach about climate change whilst overseeing the destruction of fertile farm land all over eastern Australia. The double standards are sickening.
@hugenoses watch a doco called gasland, it is about what a shit hole places in america because after they did this shit. poisoned the drinking water of so many people... it is wrong for the environment but way more importantly it ruins people lives.... you can't eat gas
Outrageous. The facts about Gas mining is that it is unsafe. There is a protest to stop it on the 18th September. Starting at 11am Camperdown Park walking down King Street and finishing in Sydney Park. Try and attend and stop this crap
looks to me like the CSG exploration is being approached by the energy companies with the same pig headedness employed when uranium was chosen over thorium as the fuel for nuclear reactors. To give those of you who believe what you are fed by the media a look at the kind of people we're dealing with here, they chose uranium over thorium because the spent thorium rods couldn't be used to make weapons grade plutonium.
Dear Pro-CSG people. You are ignorant fools that have no idea what your talking about let alone the environmental reprocussions drilling for CSG has. Before you rant and rave your mislead uneducated dribble how about do some research. Environment>Money. Regards, all us so called Hippies.
bullshit. these oil company's pay millions to help improve the environment better than it was, look at barrow island, completely owned by Chevron, Though? its one of the most preserved lands in Australia
Taking a few islands where to get at billions companies have spent a few million on preservation, then applying that to all mining operations is pure folly. The CSG industry is a bunch of shell companies setup to do things in the cheapest way possible. No more money is spent then is required to get the resource out of the ground, waste is vented directly into the atmosphere at ground level, equipment is rudimentary, and monitoring procedures are non-existent.
@Crioca mate you're a fucking queer hippie and you don't know what's best for Australia. just keep voting labor and watch the country get COMPLETELY taken over by asia, your kids (if you have any because you're queer) will be forced to learn chinese... or indonesian. the Australian way of life will be finished, Australia will lose its identity as it almost has already thanks to labor, and just become swallowed up as a part of asia. You respect NOTHING. you dont deserve to live here.
@Soundgarden8497 Oh noes! You called me a homosexual as a way of attempting to insult me! Clearly you must have the more rational, logical political position.
Oh wait, actually you're an ignorant redneck whose demonstrated about as much understanding of geopolitical and social issues as my Labrador. If you think "queer" makes an effective insult and you think that Australia is going to lose it's national identity, you've been listening to too much talk radio garbage. Get some education.
PS- I obviously meant, the New South Wales Government! They're going to allow 'investigating' to see what Uranium resources are here, if any! They'll allow CSG unless we stop it!
TheNannyomi45 1 week ago
Coal seam Gas mining should cease NOW. There should be an indepth inquiry, perhaps with the powers of a Royal Commission, and the public should be involved all the way through. This is too important to take any risks? I live in the Illawarra - NSW Sth Coast. There's already applications to mine for CSG in our water catchment areas. This is beyond crazy! The NSW gives lip service publicly, but privately they're allowing more mining to take place. It's not going to happen here - we will oppose it!
TheNannyomi45 1 week ago
the people in this movie like debbie orr are liars and fed bullshit,.......whatever hole her kid was bleeding from wasnt caused by csg, that part of this movie was a proven lie , and maybe the 1000's of people employed i nthe csg industry would be bleeding out our ears eyes buttholes????? i think not......... see, people see the movie gasland and think its the same in Aust...its not.... its heavily regulated by the government and if it was bad for the enviroment we wouldnt be allowed to do it
Creedo77 2 months ago
how about anus gas.
getdownaustralia 3 months ago
@getdownaustralia Yeah... believe it or not methane is an environmental issue too. Here in the US, we literally have thousands of acres of cattle that produce tons of methane by just pooping, but we need our burgers! So instead the meat industry works out ways to produce enough meat in undesirable, inhumane conditions just so some suffering lower-class family can afford the next KFC meal. The upper-class people can afford Whole Foods Market! The lower-class can't. So we'll just get fatter.
InATelescopeLens 3 months ago
This needs to be on TV, the pricks at Santos and all the other companies wanting to mine for CSG can go fuck their own faces.
xtremelygoodlookin 4 months ago
@xtremelygoodlookin
you have no idea about the csg industry im guessing
Creedo77 2 months ago
@Creedo77 Actually I do, I'm an activist and I don't read half a sentence from some random article and make up my mind based on that but rather commit myself to actual reading and study where one actually sits down for an extended period of time and does so on many occasions and reads extensively. You no doubt dismiss plain facts and prefer to believe that CSG mining is a good thing and not dangerous at all.
xtremelygoodlookin 1 month ago
@xtremelygoodlookin
hahahah, ok then, ..... but its not dangerous, water tables underground get cased off with cement and steel casing, water tests are done , and what would you prefer? a coal fired power station or a csg powered one??? there is a huge gas feild near moranbah and the farmer who owns the land still runs his cattle on it.... no problems.
Creedo77 1 month ago
@Creedo77 The best thing humanity can possibly do at juncture is to make a full transition to 100% renewable energy within the next 10 years if we want to push it. To assert that it is not dangerous is simply stupid foolish, it quite clearly is very dangerous despite the rhetoric of the mining companies. BTW, the results of the only real water tests that have been done have never been released in their entirety.
xtremelygoodlookin 1 month ago
@xtremelygoodlookin
csg in Aust is no where near similar to america, so i just belive that you saw that movie gasland and are on your high horse and crying because you have nothing better to do
Creedo77 1 month ago
@Creedo77 To say that we don't need to worry because CSG mining in Australia is nothing like it in the US is absurd. While many of the techniques used in the US are supposedly not going to be used here, the proposed techniques to be used here are still no better and still pose a genuine threat not only to the local environment but to the local people's health. BTW, you can believe what you want, but know that believing what you do makes you either ignorant or simply an idiot.
xtremelygoodlookin 1 month ago
@xtremelygoodlookin The government hasn't done research into the system and there are no regulations for Coal Seam Gas miners so therefore how do we know the miners arnt using the same process as they have done in the US. More over 50% of the wells tested by the government leak gas and when this gas is leaking it is twice as bad for the environment. So I don't believe we can say that this is safe to do...
cool12117 3 weeks ago
@cool12117 It would not suprise me if they are or are going to use the same processes here that they do in the US, if you think I'm pro-CSG I'm not. Thats what I picked up from your comment anyway.
xtremelygoodlookin 2 weeks ago
@cool12117
Of course they've done research. The research showed it was profitable. Therefore Australians get to have their country ruined so a few companies, their shareholders and the government can all profit. Who needs a future?
allgodsaredead 2 weeks ago
water = nescessary to all life
natrual gas = nescessary to profit
as profit is dependent on life for value water then water = greater source of value than gas hence charge CSGM companies a greater value per unit of water used than the value per unit natural gas mined. as the ecosystem service offered by an aquifer is likely to be calculated in the hundreds of billions of dollars any mining licence offered should come with a clause of full monetary accountability for any water contamination.
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago
Creedo77. it wasn't heart warming at all.....
tonusisation 5 months ago
Coal Seam Gas being compared to open cut mining is justifiable. They say the open cut mining is worse, but with the CSG mining, it's all done underground. All the damage that will be done will be where no one can see it, and the suffering of polluted water will come into full effect in 20 - 30 years. Australia is a dry continent and the idea of fracking 45,000 wells in Queensland alone is ridiculous. The gas profits from the mining aren't even worth it. Five cents per litre. It is not worth it.
Solus26 5 months ago
@Solus26 too right....
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago
Folks- check out these clips of fires underground!
Coal and Gas seams on fire underground!!!....
Also - how much it leads to heating of the atmosphere is mind blowing -
How can they say its Green ...LIES LIES lIES....
youtube.com/watch?v=SK4hAx7ADP4&feature=related
youtube.com/watch?v=HVid-rROATo&feature=related
sirdavidbowie 5 months ago
heart warming movie but i found it hard to masterbate to
Creedo77 5 months ago
@Creedo77 you were looking for youPORN not you tube...
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago
would be living in a tent. I bet everyone watched the "gasland" movie and they assume that it happens in Australia, when if they looked into the companies and enviromental procedures you would see otherwise. what would you rather a gas well or an open cut mine?? csg is the future of clean energy so why not jump on board?? the biggest threat to coal seam gas is peoples ignorance and lack of understanding and infomation. god dam fucking uneducated blockies and god dam fucking hippies
Creedo77 5 months ago
@Creedo77
The comments of either a complete ignoramus or a deliberate troll. What a pitiful soul.
dd22qq 5 months ago
ok, here we go...... what is "it" they dont want???... no one even knows what they are talking about in this propaganda movie. there is so much enviromental legislation etc that if it was bad the government would shut it down, you kids nose bleed didnt have anything to do with coal seam gas, read some infomation on it for christs sake. I love how all these people love their little protest groups but you all have power, use gas, drive cars etc and if there were no mines or coal seam gas you.
Creedo77 5 months ago
@getupaustralia G'day... Part 1), I agree that CSG Wells, & Fracking, & Fcuking Aquifers is Vile Vandalism, & I wonder if there's any proof that Miners are fully human ?
Part 2), I'm a Green Extremist, I use Trespassing Sheep for Archery Practice, on my Endangered Species Sanctuary... And, it's pretty funny to see y'all Rednecks suddenly wake up to Reality. Economics is Bullshit, it's a failed Experiment, & something must be saved for afterwards !
WarblesOnALot 5 months ago
Fracking causing earth quakes
Check out Huffington post dot com
arkansas-fracking-earthquakes
These miners are crazy! Just stop...
They obviously have no idea of the consequences.
If it's causing that much disturbance under ground how can it not mess up the aquifers... Let alone the chemicals... Do they want us to have to import our food from china or something... Coles and Woolies don't mind... better profit margins...
AlMoore 5 months ago
@AlMoore they already do, see the report last night saying that china sell to NZ they relabel the toxic veggies and then sell them to us..! CSG has been going on for ten yrs i nQLD apparently, now they want a piece of everywhere.
Avatar2050 5 months ago
When I left school I worked on the roads for a year or two while I was studying. I worked in the QA lab and we used Trichloroethane (liquid paper thinner)to strip bitumen for testing
The old guys had stories about using Toluene!! That stuff is gnarley cancer producing stuff you would want to even smell let alone drink!! If they're using that to cut through the coal to get to the gas we are in big trouble. It's all happening so quick and it doesn't take much imagination that we are in big trouble
AlMoore 5 months ago
Everyone should watch the documentary Gasland. It was directed by an American in 2010 it's about hydraulic fracturing & how it destroys just about everything. I believe that it is a non bias source; that shows the correct outcome of such practice.
Preset1 5 months ago
Coal Seam Gas has been proven to be destructive and toxic. Just go watch the documentary Gaslands. People have already been massively effected by it, they have to actually go out and BUY THE WATER because the gas has leaked into the water supply, people can even set the water on FIRE! We HAVE to stop this!!! Before it is too late!
MKDlife 5 months ago
whats gas?
DanielMDawg 5 months ago
what is a gaswell?
landraider101 5 months ago
yeah we should destroy an industry that provides power to large areas of australia and has the potential to power all of australia, just cause a few farmers cant deal with it. go farm somewhere else if you dont like it ya cunts!
bukueOner 5 months ago
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splitty77 5 months ago
@bukueOner Well haven't you just showen How Bloody Stupid you are then!!
splitty77 5 months ago
why dont we just use slavery? everything was much more efficient back then
CHUNDERTHUNDER99 5 months ago
yeah i would seriously go blow one of these up..... anyone with me?
MrJarth 5 months ago
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GET UP YOU ARE COMMUNISTS
dpm1378 5 months ago
I like to watch pom.
Like if you read it wrong. :)
Drimmelen88 5 months ago
Boo Hoo you whiney bunch of little girls.
'your land'
Yes you purchased the land and your are legally entitled to the top 6 inches of soil to do with what you want.
You dont own it all the way through the earths crust.
You dont own the water table.
You need to learn how to share...its a novel concept.
Its like two fleas fighting over the dog!
tonusisation 5 months ago
@tonusisation Yes but when thousands of fleas infest the dog what happens? the dog dies.
lolismful 5 months ago 2
@tonusisation I dont think it's that simple.
PimpernellP 5 months ago
I can't wait for you guys to find another band wagon to jump on! 98% of the people protesting about CSG know nothing of the drilling industry or the practices that take place. A few hippies make a bit of noise to the media and you are all over it. Get some real knowledge before you carry on with your sensationalized crap.
hugenoses 5 months ago
@hugenoses Are you a Driller by any chance???
splitty77 5 months ago
@splitty77 Are you a misinformed easily persuaded greenie by any chance? Btw i'm not a driller.
hugenoses 5 months ago
@hugenoses No Im Not a Greenie But I take a close look at the known facts & make a descision on them!
splitty77 5 months ago
@splitty77 im sick of one line tags used to denigrate anothers point of view and giving the name caller carte blanche to disregard. at the moment its 'greenie' in the past its been 'commie' or 'hippy' used ot shoot down in one foul swoop differing views. all views are worth listening to and whats right probably lies somewhere inbetween. but calling those who oppose CSGM greenies and radicals is plain wrong. is it radical to take a considered approach to land stewardship? is it radical to treat..
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago 3
@splitty77 is it radical to treat the land as something more than just another source of profit? the stakes are to high to resort to name calling and its not just the effects on our land and water table but the right of other human beings to live in their homes without being surrounded by gas wells and pipelines. if as human beings we have learnt anything from our past experiences its that we sholdnt rush into these types of issues wihtout a full understanding of the consequences...
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago
@splitty77 ... those who use the word 'greenie' are trying to portray those who seek caution and an understanding of what we are getting ourselves into, aswell as the concerns of the communities who will have to live with CSGM as flimsy pot smoking dreadlocked and un washed waifs. when in reality those who care about the environment come from all walks of life. i myself am an environemental biologist hardly the vocation idealist anti capitolist as the greenie yellers would have believe.
honeybadgertrix 5 months ago 2
If these cunts ruin Lebstralia, I will kill all
muh6666 5 months ago
To be honest, I was indifferent to coal seam gas before seeing this video. I may have even been a bit for it. This video has really opened my eyes to how bad it can be. Resources are an important part of the Australian economy, but we need to put common sense and the well being of our people ahead of increasing profits of an already very wealthy and secure industry sector.
D4M14N1989 5 months ago
@D4M14N1989 The onus should be on the CSG to prove it is safe, and not on the Australian public to prove its dangerous. I think anyone can agree that it is illogical to have it the other way around.
D4M14N1989 5 months ago
@D4M14N1989 How can you prove it is safe to a bunch of people who will ignore the evidence that it is??
dillihag 5 months ago
yep this is another globalization rape
shyawnlinmonk 5 months ago
hi
Cyzzroxx 5 months ago
bahhaahhaahah
Budz0rr 5 months ago
Cool Story Gurl
Dimported 5 months ago
I don't always love GetUp's ads, but this one is brilliant and striking. Chip in.
erlandhowden 5 months ago
Stop CSG. An under-researched, under-regulated, under-handed practice.
tomasford 5 months ago 26
Seems like 14 or so CSG exec's didn't like this video. I hope they can read the writing on the wall. It says "Wake the frack up and smell your future burning".
pathosbedlam 5 months ago
STOP CSG. We would be so much better off investing in a clean energy future. Why ruin the planet. All these idiotic executives that think it's OK to ruin our country, because they can move somewhere else with all the money will one day find there is nowhere left to live that isn't ruined by what they have done. Stop Mining our children's futures. It's something that can't be replaced.
pathosbedlam 5 months ago
I'm all for CSG, its good for the economy, its good for the nation. Who cares if a tiny bit of land gets damaged? Stop crying you babies! This is a first world problem
overhang88 5 months ago
Totally disgusting.. Santos..= Satanic.. !
the government are a joke and the only way to get them out is to
boycott them and stop paying taxes and stop giving them any power over us.
We need them ousted and real people without satanic agendas to replace them.
Avatar2050 5 months ago
@Avatar2050 do you think a liberal government would be any better at stopping CSG?
D4M14N1989 5 months ago
@Avatar2050 That just might be the dumbest thing I've read. I hope you're taking the piss.
RileyWG 5 months ago
@RileyWG no shill im deadly serious ! i dont want to shower in water with methane in it, i dont want the ground water of my planet undermined, i dont want methane in the air i breathe and i dont want four hundred trucks rolling through my town. etc. whats so 'dumb' about that?
Avatar2050 5 months ago
Chevron/Texaco Ecuador
Tar Sands Extraction Alberta Canada
BP - Gulf of Mexico
Fukushima
Who's gonna stop them???
jahmonx 5 months ago
systematic destruction for money, typical idiots ruining the country, wrack of!
iwant2watchthis1 5 months ago 3
Food farms vs Gas Farms
Take your pick.
dctcool 5 months ago 2
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energylots 5 months ago
Interesting how the greens and farmers are now bed fellows
Kable645 5 months ago
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CranklHammer 5 months ago
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CranklHammer 5 months ago
We should be investing in renewable energy, which is clean, safe, and never runs out. Even if they could guarantee to make CSG 100% safe (which they can't), it too is a fossil fuel and will therefore run out one day. Only someone who is greedy and irresponsible would even consider risking the long-term health of the Great Artesian Basin for short-term profits.
charbonou2 5 months ago 2
@charbonou2 the only way to end greed is to not exist in this planet, greed will always be on planet earth because it is designed like that.
shanetyty 5 months ago
The way to stop something like this is for EVERYONE to get outraged and voice that outrage to the politicians allowing it to happen. Make them famous and inundate them with phone calls. Put the pressure on them. Threaten to do everything in your power to make sure they are replaced and if the next people do the same thing, do it over again. Government only has the power that the people allow them to either by willingly giving it or by not doing anything about it.
JohnnySoprano87 5 months ago
This so sad! STOP IT NOW! I can't even believe that the government let them do this.
superslothable 5 months ago
Trashing the water table in the name of 'creating jobs' is just not going to work in the short or long term. As if the water wasn't unfit enough to drink with all the fluoride dumped in it, now people in rural areas also have to worry about contamination from CSG?
I absolutely detest GetUp's position on the carbon tax (HUGE scam), but I agree with them on this issue for sure.
Alastrian83 5 months ago 3
How about discussing some facts rather than a bunch of know it all farmers giving their ignorant opinions
Oztrigger5 5 months ago
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AcoosticMoosic 5 months ago
fucking hippies...
fucking hippies.. they wonder why they never win elections
alexvrynios 5 months ago
@alexvrynios Thanks for that. You've brought alot to the discussion.
310sucks 5 months ago
@310sucks what im saying is true right?
they never win elections!
alexvrynios 5 months ago
@alexvrynios parties like the nats and the greens aren't trying to win govt, they know they can't, what they want is enough sitting members to have a decent amount of leverage in the House. That's why it can be a good thing to have plenty of independents and minor party members in the house to keep the big parties in check and not just kowtowing to a Liberal/labor going-nowhere-fast agenda.
310sucks 5 months ago
Not only are the farmers being payed a large sum of money for CSG companies use of their land they use (which in australia land owners dont own resources). Also gives youth in rural areas constructive jobs and live facilities where they can develop skills. Also the australian govt. regulate the CSG industry quite tough with water run off samples aswell as water table samples (if they fail huge fines). Look @ industry and see the greater good this industry helps our country -_-
greanteee 5 months ago
@greanteee yeah, but if they fail its already too late...
lstacherski 5 months ago
@greanteee
You trust the government too much when it comes to regulating the kinds of companies who have politicians bought and paid for.
And your 'greater good' is only in the form of a short term profit. You're just not seeing the long term damage this is doing.
Alastrian83 5 months ago
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greanteee 5 months ago
this by far is the worse thing that has happened to Australia. it will destroy the country indefinitely for millennia :(
MrJarth 5 months ago 2
This is not about the Greens or any political agenda, but about for the common good and the common sense of our people.
Why do we keep trying to destroy the environment that we are trying to protect? Champion a sustainable future for us all.
deyarts 5 months ago 2
@deyarts It is about the Greens when they are the only political party willing to stand up for a sustainable future and against CSG....
charbonou2 5 months ago
i'm not in favour of CSG... but what the fuck does bob irwin know? LOL
Soundgarden8497 5 months ago
@Soundgarden8497 STILL hating? Mate, you need to get laid.
310sucks 5 months ago
@310sucks haha is that what you reckon? you need to quit being a faggot or keep at it even more so u can catch aids from another queer who thinks the same way you do.
Soundgarden8497 5 months ago
lol its funny watching a video of people talking about a process they dont understand, and relate random medical issues back to CSG. Look at the process of extraction and water purification and the benefits of the Jobs Australia will get, our natural resources have saved us from the second tanking of the US economy.
greanteee 5 months ago
@greanteee Agree that they are talking about processes they dont understand and it shows, however watch Gas Land documentary, the people living in the areas in the US are not so happy either... unable to use their own tap water etc. A lot more research needs to be done first before anything goes ahead.
lstacherski 5 months ago 2
@lstacherski Gas Land is a great doco
patcook85 5 months ago 2
@greanteee dude the great artesian basin... it will be destroyed. CSG won't even tell the public what chemical are in the extraction technique because they are cowards and they know the public will hate them from destroying the water table.
MrJarth 5 months ago 2
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babyboomers are the first generation to denie farm leases for x y z generations and then expect them to help with CSG....you gotta to be kidding ,,just do what you all do sell your farm to a overseas buyer and say you deserve it and its your superanuation and live happily ever after in the city , the rule was work the farm or get off .. now its work until you cant be bothered then get a buyer ,and guess what no x y z has the money so property by property we are taken over by overseas companies
jeeraff 5 months ago
babyboomers are the first generation to denie farm leases for x y z generations and then expect them to help with CSG....you gotta to be kidding ,,just do what you all do sell your farm to a overseas buyer and say you deserve it and its your superanuation and live happily ever after in the city , the rule was work the farm or get off .. now its work until you cant be bothered then get a buyer ,and guess what no x y z has the money so property by property we are taken over by overseas companies
jeeraff 5 months ago
Greens fighting!
Freeasacar 5 months ago
hey
hjud1863 5 months ago
So does this channel keep paying for trending or....
Jtreglo1 5 months ago
Vote for Greens
0o0blackstar0o0 5 months ago
The Great Artesian Basin is the largest artesian basin in the world. The water in it is millions of years old. If we pollute it, there's no back-up supply, and there's no way to fix it.
charbonou2 5 months ago 3
mining needs to stop. but as for the green party, they have a few good intentions concerning the environment only, the way they want to implement their policies, and the rest of their policies for running the country are very scary. if bob brown was a dictator of australia, we'd all be so heavily controlled, unable to do anything incase u killed a fly, big brother would watch you go to the bathroom and insects would have more rights than humans. the greens party are not legit.
Soundgarden8497 5 months ago
*sigh*, people....
mdclxvis 5 months ago
tripod work to rival ash king. but seriously FUCK COAL SEAM GAS
BitterManFilms 5 months ago 2
i doubt 13000 views in 4 days is a trend, stupid youtube
P3T3RJAY 5 months ago
@P3T3RJAY gets put their on purpose not because of views. change your Location to America to get accurate trends
0o0blackstar0o0 5 months ago
We need an Australian version of Erin Brockovich!
canttouchdylan 5 months ago 2
Natural gas causes cancer!? OMG they should outlaw all kitchen stoves!
t0ms1 5 months ago
@t0ms1 Seriously? these people live within 200 meters of a gas seam, not the small amount which is Burnt on your kitchen stove. Think about these things before you post a comment showing your ignorance.
ARavenousWolf 5 months ago
@t0ms1 Of natural gas I don't know of a link to cancer but the process of hydraulic fracturing "fracking" to obtain the gas is likely what is being referred to. water + sand + chemicals are injected underground ....The Wikipedia article on hydraulic fracturing is full of citations -- i was trying to find what chemicals are used . "About 750 chemicals have been listed as additives for hydraulic fracturing in a report to the US Congress in 2011" -
tetranoob 5 months ago
@tetranoob That list includes 29 chemicals that are either known or possible carcinogens or are regulated by the federal government because of other risks to human health.
tetranoob 5 months ago
Go on any major gas company site and you can find the chemicals used.
dillihag 5 months ago 2
@dillihag Bullshit they won't even tell the Government what Chemicls their using!
splitty77 5 months ago
@splitty77 You mean "they're" and you obviously haven't looked. You should start getting educated or stay out of said argument. You could just watch TV (obviously that statement came from 60 minutes) but everyone knows the media doesn't portray the full story.
dillihag 5 months ago
You should also check out the DERM videos. DERM dismisses half the sensationalist untruths that are being propagated on this wall.
dillihag 5 months ago
@dillihag Yeah and who is DERM Ya Halfwit? the Bloody Government......Who's pushing CSG? The Government..! If you belive their protecting the People of Australia's Furture U live in La La Land!
splitty77 5 months ago
@dillihag true. i checked the AGL website and eventually found a pdf of chemicals that may be used in fraccing. here is an excerpt :o) "Terpenes/terpenoids/sweet orange oil Used to reduce surface tension to aid in gas flow Used in pharmaceuticals, contributes to the flavour of cinnamon, cloves and ginger" that is one of the 45 on the list. very interesting in that each chemical has a description in layman's terms. I regard myself as a layman
tetranoob 5 months ago
Do it nao.
funnyanimationguy 5 months ago
".. until the science of it is known." .. so, "global warming".
Reziiin 5 months ago
@Halos1987 *Facepalm*. Solar and Geothermal Energy. We have enough potential Geothermal energy to power the entirety of Australia almost indefinitely. You know, assuming that the Earth's core doesn't suddenly decide to take a vacation.
Dqowreorn 5 months ago 7
Get this on TV!
MAY0NNA1S3 5 months ago
hippies
Krissy85onfire 5 months ago
All these farmers probably agreed to a buy out so why are they complaining?
Glennoboyo 5 months ago
@Glennoboyo The farmers have no say. Google "lock the gate".
charbonou2 5 months ago
im just glad that we vote for these dickheads who make these decisions. Who out there is interested in protesting and standing up to government policies. who will actually take the time in person to give these pollies hell and anguish for there decisions. computers tvs radio can be ignored and turned of. Backhoes and bulldozers and drill rigs on Parliament properties might just prove the double standards of Australian bureaucracy. Lets prove a point. Dig up our Parliament properties and be heard
6jono9 5 months ago
getup stop paying for your fucking trending videos. jesus.
Gazmanaust 5 months ago
@Gazmanaust Youtube doesn't work like that, paid videos are in the promoted section and have a yellow boarder around them, trending videos are videos that people are sharing around alot and getting a large number of views withing a local area (hense Australia)
dctcool 5 months ago
@dctcool billabong does it too, it's had videos with 500 views and 20 likes in the trending section which have been out for a week. happens like clockwork. youtube is a business, of course they will put videos in trending for money.
Gazmanaust 5 months ago
@Gazmanaust You're looking at the Featured videos section, that section regularly promoted paid partners on Youtube to increase revenue completly different from the trending section and its not just billabong you also see videos there from ten, take40, and video content partners like AngryAussie CommunityChannel etc. And yes I've met the guys at the Google HQ in Sydney myself I know how the site works
dctcool 5 months ago
@dctcool i've been on youtube for years i know the difference between the featured/spotlight/trending sections. years ago it was a lot more common/less subtle than now, with newly appointed youtube partners 'suddenly' appearing on your recommended videos even if you watched nothing relevant to it. the billabong video was in the trending section, it was also on the trending worldwide page with barely any views. there were forum posts on multiple websites saying how BS it was.
Gazmanaust 5 months ago
@overhang88 ... No. The way that the mining industry is set up in Australia is ridiculous. Contrary to what people seem to think, it doesn't pump money into the Australian economy.
Perhaps you're talking more about coal mining than mining in general. In that case, not only are you misinformed, but you are an idiot in general. Fossil fuels powered the old world. They don't need to power this one. Renewable energies that don't burn holes in your wallet / the environment > fossil fuels that do.
Dqowreorn 5 months ago
@Dqowreorn Could you please inform everyone as to these cost effective renewable sources you talk about.
Halos1987 5 months ago
I dont like my job, but I need it to survive so I don't whine about it
Australia needs mining, you may not like it, but please don't whine about it
If you can maically produce the BILLIONS of dollars that mining pumps into the economy then by all means have a cry that coal mining is happening. Until then just deal with it. Nothing sadder then when people complaining about mining, it shows that you are only doing it to feel good about yourself
overhang88 5 months ago
This video has amazing quality
secret260 5 months ago
It's a breathtaking hypocrisy from Anna Bligh, Julia Gillard and Barry O'Farrell to preach about climate change whilst overseeing the destruction of fertile farm land all over eastern Australia. The double standards are sickening.
mralstoner1 5 months ago 17
@mralstoner1 This comes back to what i've been always saying: Labor, is nothing more than the lesser evil of the two.
wyrwich 5 months ago
CSG is the Biggest Threat to Australia by Far It MUST be STOPPED before we Ruin Australia for our Kids!
splitty77 5 months ago 12
@splitty77 What makes it the biggest threat?
hugenoses 5 months ago
@hugenoses It entirely depends on the perception of the individual and their circumstances/situations.
PlightOfLogic 5 months ago
@hugenoses watch a doco called gasland, it is about what a shit hole places in america because after they did this shit. poisoned the drinking water of so many people... it is wrong for the environment but way more importantly it ruins people lives.... you can't eat gas
MrJarth 5 months ago 14
@hugenoses Well If cannot see the threat in CSG you must live in La La land!
splitty77 5 months ago
Watch Gasland and then see if you still want coal steam gas!
apjec 5 months ago 3
watch GASLAND. mindblowing
BrendanStuart 5 months ago 3
Outrageous. The facts about Gas mining is that it is unsafe. There is a protest to stop it on the 18th September. Starting at 11am Camperdown Park walking down King Street and finishing in Sydney Park. Try and attend and stop this crap
thehairybanana 5 months ago
looks to me like the CSG exploration is being approached by the energy companies with the same pig headedness employed when uranium was chosen over thorium as the fuel for nuclear reactors. To give those of you who believe what you are fed by the media a look at the kind of people we're dealing with here, they chose uranium over thorium because the spent thorium rods couldn't be used to make weapons grade plutonium.
jasebishop 5 months ago
But scientific studies in The Australian says that coal steam gas can improve long term health by making you age slower
GreyDoug 5 months ago
@GreyDoug lol
intergalactic12 5 months ago
@GreyDoug Pfft The Aust-doch
kaushiksays 5 months ago
Ok, i do not agree with all of the videos GetUpAustralia posts but this one hits a sore point.
GetYaPinguOut 5 months ago
legends keep it up until they get it
sapientersisincere 5 months ago
And also lol at the bogans in these comments
HIPPIES GON RUIN MA COUNTREH MATE! FUCKEN FAGGITS
axiobeta 5 months ago
I like chocolate milk
axiobeta 5 months ago
Dear Pro-CSG people. You are ignorant fools that have no idea what your talking about let alone the environmental reprocussions drilling for CSG has. Before you rant and rave your mislead uneducated dribble how about do some research. Environment>Money. Regards, all us so called Hippies.
Rusldalovemusl 5 months ago 2
fucking kill em all, these corporations have lost touch with humanity. they need to go down otherwise we will
MattyCreed 5 months ago
I find this hard to masturbate to.
TheBassface22 5 months ago 3
bullshit. these oil company's pay millions to help improve the environment better than it was, look at barrow island, completely owned by Chevron, Though? its one of the most preserved lands in Australia
warfl4g 5 months ago
@warfl4g you are shit
mattazPKpro 5 months ago
Taking a few islands where to get at billions companies have spent a few million on preservation, then applying that to all mining operations is pure folly. The CSG industry is a bunch of shell companies setup to do things in the cheapest way possible. No more money is spent then is required to get the resource out of the ground, waste is vented directly into the atmosphere at ground level, equipment is rudimentary, and monitoring procedures are non-existent.
Base your reality on TV adverts.
mryellow123 5 months ago
IF YOU WANT TO SAVE THE LAND, GET RID OF GILLARD WHO IS SELLING THE WHOLE COUNTRY OUT.
Soundgarden8497 5 months ago 2
@Soundgarden8497 Right, because if there was ever someone who was going make our environment it's Tony Abbott and the Liberal party. lmao.
Crioca 5 months ago
@Crioca mate you're a fucking queer hippie and you don't know what's best for Australia. just keep voting labor and watch the country get COMPLETELY taken over by asia, your kids (if you have any because you're queer) will be forced to learn chinese... or indonesian. the Australian way of life will be finished, Australia will lose its identity as it almost has already thanks to labor, and just become swallowed up as a part of asia. You respect NOTHING. you dont deserve to live here.
Soundgarden8497 5 months ago
@Soundgarden8497 Oh noes! You called me a homosexual as a way of attempting to insult me! Clearly you must have the more rational, logical political position.
Oh wait, actually you're an ignorant redneck whose demonstrated about as much understanding of geopolitical and social issues as my Labrador. If you think "queer" makes an effective insult and you think that Australia is going to lose it's national identity, you've been listening to too much talk radio garbage. Get some education.
Crioca 5 months ago