@Strasburg1991 It's in Michigan at the Steam Railroading institute (same group that owns the Pere Marquette 1225) being restored. Right now 1225 is in for it's 15 year rebuild so I think the 76 project is on hold until 1225's rebuild is complete (in the next couple years)
#76 is now at the Steam Railroad Institute in Owosso, MI. Which is also home to Pere Marquette 1225. 76 is in pieces and in the process of being restored.
So it is, my apologies. I was told that it had been bought by Xanterra following it's change of management after the inicdent with 1278; I'm not naming-names, though.
@DanielVolker it was just a crown sheet failure. If it was an explosion, everyone, including passengers, would have been instantly killed! Anyone within a short distance of the explosion would have been killed as well. Then when the boiler returned to earth, someone else could have been killed. However, crown sheet failures do cause explosions.
3254 is operational in Steamtown, number 76 is being restored in Michigan at the Steam Railroad Institute, and the 1278 is stored in the Ohio Central RR Shops waiting her turn to be restored. It was the 1278 that suffered the explosion.
She's the first locomotive that my family together as a whole rode 14 years ago and now she's being restored at the Steam Railroad Institute, I'm so purchasing a ticket for her rebirth run! It's a shame Gettysburg let their steam locomotives go like that but you can understand where they're coming from. The other one is waiting to be restored at the Ohio Central Railroad along with an NKP Berkshire. What exciting things to look forward too!\
It was CN 3254 that Steamtown got. the Gettysburg got 1278 for the 3254 and i believe all of you know abou 1278 "boiler explotion" that ended Steam on the Gettysburg
Yes it WAS the 1278 that had the cown sheet failure! If you don't believe me ,do a google search of "Gettysburg boiler explosion" and read the official NTSB report...it's the first search result.
This engine use to run at Penn View Mountain Railroad which was right out side blairsville pa which has been defunct and sloan who owned the penn view move to it to gettysburg and i'm not sure if engine 76 still runs yet or not.
"About 7:20 p.m. on June 16, 1995, the firebox crownsheet of Gettysburg Passenger Services, Inc. steam locomotive 1278 failed while the locomotive was pulling a six-car excursion train near Gardners, PA. The failure resulted in an instantaneous release (explosion) of steam through the firebox door and into the locomotive cab, seriously burning the engineer and the two firemen."
I ws told that both the firemen and engineer later died of their wounds, both were still apprentice and were left alone to operate the engine. The water level became to low, so the crown sheet overheated, and hence caused the explosion. Every firemens worst nightmare come true.
It wasnt so much as neglect by the operating crew but the maintance crew as well. The valves and piping connecting the water glass to the boiler were never checked and cleaned and became cloged with scale that resulted in a false reading in the water glass. However an experienced crew should have noticed the difference in how the water was moving inside of the glass which should have alerted them to a potential problem!
Also the CP engines didnt have fusible plugs. This would have prevented the crown sheet from buckling the way it did. However, the CP engines did have some type of re-enforcement(i think extra stays) that prevent the crown sheet from pretty much blowing the whole engine apart.
So that's the reason the boiler didn't blow off the frame. Thanks for the info. The engine I fire, which was built back in 1904, also has no fussible plugs, but I think that it would be a good idea to have.
I run two later 3 foot gauge sisters to your engine place a porter at Cedar Point. When the Ohio boiler inspector comes in sometime in April they will physically crawl inside the firebox and make sure they are there and sometimes even put them. Your boiler may not be big enough to require one. BTW I love your snow plow vids!!!
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This is a great vid but it is scary to know that it's sister blew up right there, Killing all in the cab! In fact, the only remains of the crew was there shoes!
Idiot. The locomotive in the video is no where near similar to the engine who had the crown sheet failure. This is a 2-8-0. The engine that failed was a Canadian Pacific 4-6-2. Its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the engine shown here. Further more, no one was killed. They were injured, but not seriously. I'm sorry if I offend you, but your comment was the stupidest I have ever seen.
@back10506 reports say the crew was seriously burned. So yea i guess you can say they were seriously burned. The failure was the result of the crew removing the low water alarm.
There were multiple failures leading up to the accident, including a leaking feedwater pump (which was turned off for an unknown period), leaking check valve (where water enters the boiler) and clogged spindles leading to the water column. The end result was the feedwater system wasn't putting as much water into the boiler as it was designed to, and the water glass indicated there was more water than there really was.
i heard that 76 might be back up and running by the end of 2011 or 2012
Strasburg1991 1 year ago
@Strasburg1991 It's in Michigan at the Steam Railroading institute (same group that owns the Pere Marquette 1225) being restored. Right now 1225 is in for it's 15 year rebuild so I think the 76 project is on hold until 1225's rebuild is complete (in the next couple years)
SantaFe158 7 months ago
when did soem engines boiler blow
orangetrain66 1 year ago
who is xanterra? they sound bad.
pennyf9 1 year ago
#76 is now at the Steam Railroad Institute in Owosso, MI. Which is also home to Pere Marquette 1225. 76 is in pieces and in the process of being restored.
criind 1 year ago
Dang
five0fan 3 years ago
How come i did not see this in gettysburg?
five0fan 3 years ago
As far as I know, they don't run steam anymore.
e44e33 3 years ago
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DanielVolker 3 years ago
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SR722 3 years ago
Gettysburg RR is owned by pioneer lines, who told you xanterra?
sgprailfan 2 years ago
So it is, my apologies. I was told that it had been bought by Xanterra following it's change of management after the inicdent with 1278; I'm not naming-names, though.
SR722 2 years ago
it wasn't massive, but it was bad
yourweathertodayHD 2 years ago
Severe Crownsheet Failure, a.k.a. Firebox Explosion
WildGuy00000 2 years ago
which engine blew
orangetrain66 2 years ago
Damn !!
fjbutch 2 years ago
@DanielVolker it was just a crown sheet failure. If it was an explosion, everyone, including passengers, would have been instantly killed! Anyone within a short distance of the explosion would have been killed as well. Then when the boiler returned to earth, someone else could have been killed. However, crown sheet failures do cause explosions.
LimaLocoProductions 1 year ago
3254 is operational in Steamtown, number 76 is being restored in Michigan at the Steam Railroad Institute, and the 1278 is stored in the Ohio Central RR Shops waiting her turn to be restored. It was the 1278 that suffered the explosion.
Chris9017 3 years ago
theres a picture on a website of the engine in chaffee,mo when it was still frisco
jjsd1996 3 years ago
She's the first locomotive that my family together as a whole rode 14 years ago and now she's being restored at the Steam Railroad Institute, I'm so purchasing a ticket for her rebirth run! It's a shame Gettysburg let their steam locomotives go like that but you can understand where they're coming from. The other one is waiting to be restored at the Ohio Central Railroad along with an NKP Berkshire. What exciting things to look forward too!\
Forever Steam!
Jsusfrk20 3 years ago
Oh, I miss gettysburg so much!
GBSightings17 3 years ago
does Gettysburg still run steam?
nax1345 4 years ago
No. After they had an explotion with one of their engines, back in the early 1990's I believe, the railroad hasen't been trusted with steam anymore.
Great video, by the way.
mormonrailfan 4 years ago
dident steamtown get their other engine 3254???
nax1345 4 years ago
I believe so. Steamtown has one of their engines I know that. But not sure witch one though.
mormonrailfan 4 years ago
It was CN 3254 that Steamtown got. the Gettysburg got 1278 for the 3254 and i believe all of you know abou 1278 "boiler explotion" that ended Steam on the Gettysburg
mfptb425 3 years ago
how was 76 at the time
Strasburg1991 3 years ago
It wasn't 1278 that blew up eirther, it 76 that did. Get your facts straight!
Len.
Conrail6370 4 years ago
Yes it WAS the 1278 that had the cown sheet failure! If you don't believe me ,do a google search of "Gettysburg boiler explosion" and read the official NTSB report...it's the first search result.
adean1987 4 years ago
He is right! It is now at the Ohio Central. I had to read all the reports for my job and for a boiler class I took.
cple1 4 years ago
This engine use to run at Penn View Mountain Railroad which was right out side blairsville pa which has been defunct and sloan who owned the penn view move to it to gettysburg and i'm not sure if engine 76 still runs yet or not.
1171980 4 years ago
I think it sounds like Great Smoky Mountains RR #1702's old whistle, before she got the steamboat one.
holtskee 4 years ago
It sounds like that CofG six chime that gets used on TVRM 610 every once in a while.
crzhaze 4 years ago
#76 did have a beautiful whistle
Brush37WFD 4 years ago
I like the Livona, Avon & Lakeville initials still on the side of the combine.
NHIWW 4 years ago
NO one was killed in the Gettysburg incident...
"About 7:20 p.m. on June 16, 1995, the firebox crownsheet of Gettysburg Passenger Services, Inc. steam locomotive 1278 failed while the locomotive was pulling a six-car excursion train near Gardners, PA. The failure resulted in an instantaneous release (explosion) of steam through the firebox door and into the locomotive cab, seriously burning the engineer and the two firemen."
adean1987 4 years ago
I ws told that both the firemen and engineer later died of their wounds, both were still apprentice and were left alone to operate the engine. The water level became to low, so the crown sheet overheated, and hence caused the explosion. Every firemens worst nightmare come true.
Joe
Joe2568 4 years ago
It wasnt so much as neglect by the operating crew but the maintance crew as well. The valves and piping connecting the water glass to the boiler were never checked and cleaned and became cloged with scale that resulted in a false reading in the water glass. However an experienced crew should have noticed the difference in how the water was moving inside of the glass which should have alerted them to a potential problem!
cple1 4 years ago
Also the CP engines didnt have fusible plugs. This would have prevented the crown sheet from buckling the way it did. However, the CP engines did have some type of re-enforcement(i think extra stays) that prevent the crown sheet from pretty much blowing the whole engine apart.
cple1 4 years ago
So that's the reason the boiler didn't blow off the frame. Thanks for the info. The engine I fire, which was built back in 1904, also has no fussible plugs, but I think that it would be a good idea to have.
Joe
Joe2568 4 years ago
I run two later 3 foot gauge sisters to your engine place a porter at Cedar Point. When the Ohio boiler inspector comes in sometime in April they will physically crawl inside the firebox and make sure they are there and sometimes even put them. Your boiler may not be big enough to require one. BTW I love your snow plow vids!!!
cple1 4 years ago
Thanks, they sure are somethin. Are there any vids of the Cedar Point railroad here on YouTube? Talk to you later.
Joe
Joe2568 4 years ago
Yes there are! Click on my name and you will find mine and a co-workers, Plus vids from the Huckleberry Railroad!
cple1 4 years ago
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This is a great vid but it is scary to know that it's sister blew up right there, Killing all in the cab! In fact, the only remains of the crew was there shoes!
gw90 4 years ago
Idiot. The locomotive in the video is no where near similar to the engine who had the crown sheet failure. This is a 2-8-0. The engine that failed was a Canadian Pacific 4-6-2. Its COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the engine shown here. Further more, no one was killed. They were injured, but not seriously. I'm sorry if I offend you, but your comment was the stupidest I have ever seen.
back10506 4 years ago 4
I'm sorry, I just remebered that! I was thinking of something else! , SORRY!!!!!!!!!
gw90 4 years ago
@back10506 reports say the crew was seriously burned. So yea i guess you can say they were seriously burned. The failure was the result of the crew removing the low water alarm.
LimaLocoProductions 1 year ago
@LimaLocoProductions - 1278 was never equipped with a low water alarm.
There were multiple failures leading up to the accident, including a leaking feedwater pump (which was turned off for an unknown period), leaking check valve (where water enters the boiler) and clogged spindles leading to the water column. The end result was the feedwater system wasn't putting as much water into the boiler as it was designed to, and the water glass indicated there was more water than there really was.
DivergingClearVideo 1 year ago
i like it alot
Engineer5344 4 years ago
It has GETTYSBURG painted on the side!!!
Ya know it rocks!!!
=)
SeekerOfSpirits 4 years ago
I 2ND that excellent video.
railfanalways 4 years ago
Excellent video!
2GUNBOY 4 years ago 2