@EeeScape Probably, but he also didn't really explain why they were better... It would have been nice if he specifically talked about how exactly a gaming card works vs a workstation card (high level would have been fine). What he did was just mention that they do math operations faster (which really isn't true)...
@inEarthCEO Simple: gaming card is for gaming, quadro performs pooooor when comes to gaming - ok, buy one for 3k and it will do fine but comparing price to efficiency it's crap. Comparison: I had in my old toshiba lap ati 2600 - modded it to firepro 3600 (or 3200, don't remember now, it was long ago:). Framerate in Specviewperformance for Maya: standard - sth like 40. Modded - 247. 6 times faster, Hardware the same - drivers from pro. Simple as that. Now do dome research :D
@szymanero On 256 mb card! Try doing it with new gaming card - You won't reach this result no matter what :). Don't bother please with pro cards for gaming. If you have some questions - ask. I might know a little as I work with ones everyday ;)
the difference is hardware acceleration, no matter how good the driver is, if it's simply unable to accelerate it anyway, there is nothing you can do about it aside from doing it on the software, which is much slower. hardware acceleration capabilities are difficult to install in graphic cards, and thus, 4000$ is a very reasonable price to be able to have a card which could process high end rendering instructions directly on the hardware.
The big difference is in the application specific drivers (Maya/Autocad) and the more tested and certified drivers for the card itself.. most of the difference is within the driver, very little in the hardware.. it used to be the other way around, but is not true any longer.. you can softmod geforce cards into quadro cards, thus unlocking access to better drivers (for cad), and enabling cad specific features of the GPU.. Some can even be hard-modded (solder capacitators around)
It's not so much that workstation cards do CAD/rendering better, but rather that the gaming cards are deliberately made to be worse at it and that the gaming card driver have features deliberately left out. They're all the architecture under the skin.
Basically it just boils down to AMD and nvidia abusing their position in the market, knowing that they can charge what they want.
Technology is the same, only firmware (algorithms ) is different:
(High end) graphics card: Optimized for prioritising speed over accuracy and rendering quality (high framerates)
CAD/DCC: Optimized for prioritising accuracy and rendering quality over speed, tend to complete all rendering operations
CAD/DCC applications (AutoCad for example) have certifications for CAD/DCC cards, which enables hard- and software features in the application. Graphics cards do not support these features.
I would say: If you have to ask that question, you properly don't need a Quadro card just yet.. a gaming card like the GTX285 does an excellent job in Maya and 3DsMax. beware that cards above the GTX285 (eg GTX5xx) has issues with Maya as far as i know and although they have more muscle they have some 2 sidet light issues and they actually can be about 4 times slower then a 285. No gaming card will match a quadro card in performance in either maya or max. a quad6000 is about 8-10 times faster!
This is all dependent upon the software being used. The "pro" cards (Quadro-FirePro) are required for most CAD software. But the majority of 3D/2D software will work just fine with GeForce-Radeon cards.
A Quadro and a GeForce use the same GPU, same cores, and same OpenGL. Only difference is that the Quadro has features that the GeForce doesnt... like stereo out, 10 bit out, more onboard RAM, and more time was spent on creating the drivers.
Most GeForce cards can keep up with the Qaudro's.
@ShepperdOneill huh, you're saying the ONLY difference between those cards is those additional features. That doesn't compute with anything the guy in the vid said. He said the difference is in the algorithms and more specifically, how the gpu has been optimized. So if I want to learn something here, who should I listen to??
@cmommsen1 If you check out the specs on the cards (Quadro vs GeForce), you'll see that they both use the same GPU, same CUDA cores, same OpenGL, and the same RAM.
Only difference is that the Quadro's tend to have more RAM, output ports such as stereo out, 10-bit out, and more time was spent on developing the drivers.... which is more beneficial to CAD software.
Also, Quadro drivers are certified through different software developers like autodesk, which means you get support.
This video explains very little about the difference between a gaming card and a workstation card. I don't think the guy whom tried to explain this actually knows what he is talking about.
@leadorg actually he did, it's just that is very simple, worksation cards architecture and chipsets are optimized for working environments and those digital creation applications, thats the only difference
So i have understood that the only difference are the firmware and drivers? If positive, you could be more specific, not trying to eufemize the truth. I pay more in workstation cards because the manufacturer owns the right to charge me more as I will "make money" , and the gamers pay less because they just wanna have fun. Seems to me like blackmail.
imho thats just wrong, mostly the difference is the driver, which is certified by vendors. it gives you douple precision on calculations. You can easily change some graphics cards by putting another bios on, and get the "workstation" version of that specific card, since the hardware is the same.
To YBAN.... install CS5 on your PC, then throw it in the bin and get a MAC with Final Cut Pro. It's like having a whole film industry in your pocket.... I was a staunch Adobe fan until I went on a Final Cut Pro course in London. Total convert now - it's bigger than big.
im going to be making movies with hollywood type camcorders. what should i invest in? a fast desktop or a workstation? there wont be any special effects i just need something that will encode shit and export shit fast in adobe cs5.
@YouBumAssNigga Get a regular desktop. The rams in workstations have ECC and they make them slightly more reliable when doing large amount of calculations. This is great when you are doing scientific calculation, but mostly irrelevant for encoding video.
Also the driver support is amazing. There was one man who was going to loose 10k because of a driver bug so nvidia promptly hired a whole TEAM of programmers and engineers over one night to specifically write him a custom driver, in less than a day so he didn't loose his money.
1- Workstation cards are optimized for interacting with the GUI for content creation/etc (where the content is being changed in real time by the user). workstations cards excel at moving data to/from the bus.
2- Graphics cards are optimized for 3D Rendering with preloaded textures and 3d environments (where everything is cached to the card and the angles are being). Graphics cards excel at processing internally and moving information inside the card.
@TechnoButt wrong, gaming graphic cards can not process high end 3D rendering technique such as raytracing, which takes half a minute to render per frame, work station cards could accelerate such processes, and actually calculate instructions that would take the CPU tens to hundreds of cycles, in a single cycle on multiple core. on a gaming card, the card is simply unable to process the instruction and the instruction is left for the CPU to process anyways.
@TechnoButt idk if i have already commented on this or not but you just completely cleared the difference b/w workstation and gfx card with simplicity which can b understood by everyone. If someone asks the same question to me next time or i see somebody doing this, i will show ur comment. Thnx!
@menz40 no like he said the workstation cards are designed to do a specific thing. Which use different math and algorithms than the type that games use. so it isn't good for gaming
You can tell this guy doesn't know what he's talking about.... sad
tigyi 6 days ago
but wouldnt be a workstation GPU much more awesome for gaming?!
Abensberg 1 month ago
@Abensberg no
tigyi 6 days ago
wow, just talking, no images, are you serious. I am like a 4 year old, i need colors and animation to stay concentraited
webgier 2 months ago
Diffidence between Workstation GPU and Game GPU only the Drivers.
Nelethill 2 months ago
"Gaming cards will typically have more memory and faster clocks"
Err no. Quadro 6000 = 6GB VRAM on a single card.
ruhtraeel 2 months ago
Fag uploader stealing vids from other people
TylertheGeek28 2 months ago
The 26 dislikes are most likely from know-it-all gamers, who never work, and only play! :P
EeeScape 2 months ago
@EeeScape Probably, but he also didn't really explain why they were better... It would have been nice if he specifically talked about how exactly a gaming card works vs a workstation card (high level would have been fine). What he did was just mention that they do math operations faster (which really isn't true)...
inEarthCEO 2 months ago
@inEarthCEO Simple: gaming card is for gaming, quadro performs pooooor when comes to gaming - ok, buy one for 3k and it will do fine but comparing price to efficiency it's crap. Comparison: I had in my old toshiba lap ati 2600 - modded it to firepro 3600 (or 3200, don't remember now, it was long ago:). Framerate in Specviewperformance for Maya: standard - sth like 40. Modded - 247. 6 times faster, Hardware the same - drivers from pro. Simple as that. Now do dome research :D
szymanero 2 months ago
@szymanero On 256 mb card! Try doing it with new gaming card - You won't reach this result no matter what :). Don't bother please with pro cards for gaming. If you have some questions - ask. I might know a little as I work with ones everyday ;)
szymanero 2 months ago
One is for WORK and one is for PLAY, plain and simple.
spark20 2 months ago
lol workstation gpu's have lots more RAM than gaming cards loll this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
acali24 2 months ago
@thedarkhenrik @GeckoDude2010
the difference is hardware acceleration, no matter how good the driver is, if it's simply unable to accelerate it anyway, there is nothing you can do about it aside from doing it on the software, which is much slower. hardware acceleration capabilities are difficult to install in graphic cards, and thus, 4000$ is a very reasonable price to be able to have a card which could process high end rendering instructions directly on the hardware.
514009265 3 months ago
"Told you guys he knew all that stuff."
I lol'd. Bunch of blustering bs to cover up that he really didn't was what I saw.
Criterion515 3 months ago
The big difference is in the application specific drivers (Maya/Autocad) and the more tested and certified drivers for the card itself.. most of the difference is within the driver, very little in the hardware.. it used to be the other way around, but is not true any longer.. you can softmod geforce cards into quadro cards, thus unlocking access to better drivers (for cad), and enabling cad specific features of the GPU.. Some can even be hard-modded (solder capacitators around)
thedarkhenrik 4 months ago
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514009265 3 months ago
It's not so much that workstation cards do CAD/rendering better, but rather that the gaming cards are deliberately made to be worse at it and that the gaming card driver have features deliberately left out. They're all the architecture under the skin.
Basically it just boils down to AMD and nvidia abusing their position in the market, knowing that they can charge what they want.
potheadpenguin 5 months ago
lol albert, whacha doing on dylsteve1
Majadi7 5 months ago
I never clicked dislike on youtube before. why did I do it now? I just couldnt stand the sheer amount of ignorance i just heard.
Next time you're not certain about something, consider saying "I dont know. I'll have to look into it."
And if you're going to spread mindless propaganda, you might as well get paid for it.
eodeot 5 months ago
but if this is true, why is the perfectly exact gpu die on game and workstation cards? (gf100 on quadro 6000 and gtx480)
magnificatorig 6 months ago
Technology is the same, only firmware (algorithms ) is different:
(High end) graphics card: Optimized for prioritising speed over accuracy and rendering quality (high framerates)
CAD/DCC: Optimized for prioritising accuracy and rendering quality over speed, tend to complete all rendering operations
CAD/DCC applications (AutoCad for example) have certifications for CAD/DCC cards, which enables hard- and software features in the application. Graphics cards do not support these features.
mi48209 6 months ago
Hey hii, This is Nived i am in middle of animation field as per my future desktop what do you think which card will you re commander for mi ??
& what would you think about NVIDIA Quadro 6000 professional graphics ??
nivedpatil1 6 months ago
I would say: If you have to ask that question, you properly don't need a Quadro card just yet.. a gaming card like the GTX285 does an excellent job in Maya and 3DsMax. beware that cards above the GTX285 (eg GTX5xx) has issues with Maya as far as i know and although they have more muscle they have some 2 sidet light issues and they actually can be about 4 times slower then a 285. No gaming card will match a quadro card in performance in either maya or max. a quad6000 is about 8-10 times faster!
noxlupi1 7 months ago
Maybe he should've said:
1-Workstation cards are for creating Graphics & Games.
2-Graphic Cards are for rendering Graphics in Games!
mozarthmoob 7 months ago
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mozarthmoob 7 months ago
This is all dependent upon the software being used. The "pro" cards (Quadro-FirePro) are required for most CAD software. But the majority of 3D/2D software will work just fine with GeForce-Radeon cards.
A Quadro and a GeForce use the same GPU, same cores, and same OpenGL. Only difference is that the Quadro has features that the GeForce doesnt... like stereo out, 10 bit out, more onboard RAM, and more time was spent on creating the drivers.
Most GeForce cards can keep up with the Qaudro's.
ShepperdOneill 8 months ago 4
@ShepperdOneill huh, you're saying the ONLY difference between those cards is those additional features. That doesn't compute with anything the guy in the vid said. He said the difference is in the algorithms and more specifically, how the gpu has been optimized. So if I want to learn something here, who should I listen to??
cmommsen1 6 months ago
@cmommsen1 If you check out the specs on the cards (Quadro vs GeForce), you'll see that they both use the same GPU, same CUDA cores, same OpenGL, and the same RAM.
Only difference is that the Quadro's tend to have more RAM, output ports such as stereo out, 10-bit out, and more time was spent on developing the drivers.... which is more beneficial to CAD software.
Also, Quadro drivers are certified through different software developers like autodesk, which means you get support.
ShepperdOneill 6 months ago 2
This video explains very little about the difference between a gaming card and a workstation card. I don't think the guy whom tried to explain this actually knows what he is talking about.
leadorg 9 months ago
@leadorg actually he did, it's just that is very simple, worksation cards architecture and chipsets are optimized for working environments and those digital creation applications, thats the only difference
jasonsand 8 months ago
Wow I hate that guy. RIP Logan.
LoganMZilla 9 months ago
i read there is not difference as long as the drivers can be modded to work with the card.
terrablader 10 months ago
not very informative..
terrablader 10 months ago
get the 6950 and game like a fucking pro
MrSaggat 11 months ago
"alright, that's your inbox for-"
IceGene 11 months ago
@killerman778 Hey is a quadro good for gaming I mean do you get better FPS or not
idman3333 11 months ago
@killerman778 Which Quadro do you use because those things are expensive as hell?
InfuriatedHawk 11 months ago
I've figured out the solution. If you want the benifits of both. Just buy both cards.
Gollsodia 1 year ago
The music is horrible!
Gollsodia 1 year ago
Major difference I think is accuracy in the computations.
For scientific stuff you want high precision math
with floating point math to the max, for gaming floating
point is there but not as accurate as the workstation
quality GPUs.
colinmaharaj 1 year ago
So i have understood that the only difference are the firmware and drivers? If positive, you could be more specific, not trying to eufemize the truth. I pay more in workstation cards because the manufacturer owns the right to charge me more as I will "make money" , and the gamers pay less because they just wanna have fun. Seems to me like blackmail.
halamano 1 year ago
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8thTbisla 1 year ago
imho thats just wrong, mostly the difference is the driver, which is certified by vendors. it gives you douple precision on calculations. You can easily change some graphics cards by putting another bios on, and get the "workstation" version of that specific card, since the hardware is the same.
cyberrobbe 1 year ago
When he said linus i thought it was the ncix guy :\
markolo25 1 year ago 135
@markolo25 same here lol... Damn my hopes were shot...
Orauk 1 year ago
@markolo25 i was hoping it would be too :<
R4W 10 months ago
@markolo25 Same.
CmptrPrgmr 6 months ago
@markolo25 same i was like :D then it showed this guy and i was like D:
kman2745 5 months ago
Thumbs up if you have windows 7
RCT3FAN100 1 year ago
To YBAN.... install CS5 on your PC, then throw it in the bin and get a MAC with Final Cut Pro. It's like having a whole film industry in your pocket.... I was a staunch Adobe fan until I went on a Final Cut Pro course in London. Total convert now - it's bigger than big.
dwbrownz 1 year ago
im going to be making movies with hollywood type camcorders. what should i invest in? a fast desktop or a workstation? there wont be any special effects i just need something that will encode shit and export shit fast in adobe cs5.
YouBumAssNigga 1 year ago
@YouBumAssNigga Get a regular desktop. The rams in workstations have ECC and they make them slightly more reliable when doing large amount of calculations. This is great when you are doing scientific calculation, but mostly irrelevant for encoding video.
AmuletxHeartx 1 year ago
Also the driver support is amazing. There was one man who was going to loose 10k because of a driver bug so nvidia promptly hired a whole TEAM of programmers and engineers over one night to specifically write him a custom driver, in less than a day so he didn't loose his money.
How epic is that!?
Nvidiaguides 1 year ago
@Nvidiaguides cool story, link?
cmommsen1 6 months ago
holy shit when u sed linus. i thought you would mean linus from LinusTechTips!
MsiEvgaAsusGigabyte 1 year ago
@MsiEvgaAsusGigabyte
hahaha! so did I. I've become a fan of LinusTechTips just this past week. This second Linus doesn't cut it.
peteyesco 1 year ago
What they should have said is:
1- Workstation cards are optimized for interacting with the GUI for content creation/etc (where the content is being changed in real time by the user). workstations cards excel at moving data to/from the bus.
2- Graphics cards are optimized for 3D Rendering with preloaded textures and 3d environments (where everything is cached to the card and the angles are being). Graphics cards excel at processing internally and moving information inside the card.
TechnoButt 1 year ago 49
@TechnoButt Excellent summation!
Deathwish7777777 4 months ago
@TechnoButt wrong, gaming graphic cards can not process high end 3D rendering technique such as raytracing, which takes half a minute to render per frame, work station cards could accelerate such processes, and actually calculate instructions that would take the CPU tens to hundreds of cycles, in a single cycle on multiple core. on a gaming card, the card is simply unable to process the instruction and the instruction is left for the CPU to process anyways.
514009265 3 months ago
@TechnoButt ima try a FX 1700 on battlefeild should i try it?
GamersCanGame 2 months ago
@TechnoButt idk if i have already commented on this or not but you just completely cleared the difference b/w workstation and gfx card with simplicity which can b understood by everyone. If someone asks the same question to me next time or i see somebody doing this, i will show ur comment. Thnx!
EShAn309 7 hours ago
Doesnt Rendering depend more on processor and RAM?
DinoAGrado 1 year ago
It's like people buying Xeons for gaming. Dumb.
osmodivs 1 year ago
Fuck. Are you guys STUPID!???
Listen, WORKSTATION. As in, for "work", not games. Speed in the 3D package for development.
Gaming....well...GAMES FFS!!!
It is obvious and clear as its in the name "workstation".
EatYourChimp 1 year ago 2
are u guys making more videos later?
heydude09876 1 year ago
firepro v8750 !!
3DiegoF 1 year ago
@menz40 no like he said the workstation cards are designed to do a specific thing. Which use different math and algorithms than the type that games use. so it isn't good for gaming
mikey9890 1 year ago
is the workstation gpu also better for gaming???
menz40 1 year ago
Really? Damn. All well. Looks like I need to save some coin, cause damn are the workstation cards expensive.
Swidhelm 2 years ago
from what I've read you can get gaming cards, and use workstation drivers and get more or less a workstation card for a fraction of the price.
Swidhelm 2 years ago
I need something for both Adobe, Maya, and also love FPS gaming and MMO's. What is a good solution!?
TonyTuthill 2 years ago
@TonyTuthill build a 2nd rigg for games fat ass.
kawaiifreak860 1 year ago