1/2 less... just like Macs of today vs PCs of today...
And the cool thing was, back when the Atari ST was in its prime, it used the same CPU (Motorola 68k series).
And yet the Mac survived to this day. Probably because they cost 2x as much as the ST... :( (or 2x the cost of a Windows PC... and, in each case, the same hardware architectures were used... (save for MIDI))
Hey guys. Just a comment from me (maybe not relevant but) I got ST1024 running Cubase and few other things. After that got Apple after Apple. Today I have MacPro. I'm afraid of the speed how Apple discontinuing they products today (that was not the case before). On the other hand the old ST still playing important role in my studio ;-) how many years after?;-);-)
The real Atari and Commodore (not the fake ones using the names), while probably helping to cause their own death, did some wonderful, charming computers. A standard Windows PC of today has all the charm of a sewer drain. Maybe a little bit less.
@MattTheSaiyan Actually, that was only true with the old 386/486 PC:s that had less charm than that of a cardboard box. Today, with most PC users being laptop owners, PC design and looks has in fact never been more important. Also, on the software side, both Windows and Linux nowadays offer loads of customization options. While I feel nostalgic over my long gone Atari days and youth, I have to say that I'm glad that the days of proprietary hardware architectures are long gone too...
@eIectrostatic - actually, the Atari ST used the same Motorola CPU as the Macs of the day had... it's all in the OS... (Granted, the Amiga - despite using the same CPU - knocked the ST and Mac out of the ballpark/planet/universe/multiverse by having innovations, but that just goes to show that innovations minus marketing equals inevitable collapse.)
@idyllchilde Wasnt as bad as IBM though but yeah, you had to be clinically insane to buy a Mac over an ST or Amiga. There where alot of nutters back then clearly.
Actually it's got alot more in common with Commodore's Amiga computers, including expansion bays and side attachments. I notice though that the "Amigo" is going to be the budget model right? obviously they don't have the Amiga brand-name rights anymore so I guess "Amigo" is their compromise.
@jason24568 No, you really need to shut the fuck up now. The actual owners of the C64 is Nedfield, formerly tulip computers, and the owners of the Amiga computers is Hyperion Entertainment.
The guy claiming to be Commodore USA is actually just a guy who buys furnature and computers from china, and puts stickers on them before he sells them on for twice the price. He actually works out of a single story house in a florida ghetto.
@jason24568 And I saw elvis was alive on a crazy man's sign on the vegas strip, but that ain't true either. I'll tell anybody who needs to shut the fuck up, TO shut the fuck up, especially when they're talking some one hundred percent pure bullshit.
Where do you get that from? It was a completely different machine from the Mac. Oh, they both used the 68000 chip. I guess that makes the Amiga a Mac ripoff, too.
This commercial seems fairly weird... the narrator doesn't even sound like a native speaker. Just look at the way he pronounces "colour", and at some point he actually says "createded".
lol a good advert demonstrating what a good deal the "Jackintosh" was in terms of cost. Brilliant comparison of the ST's colour display vs the mono MAC. I actually own a Mega ST and still use it every so often. Never saw this ad the first time round.
If Atari Corp had shown stuff like this a bit more aggressively, they would've made a greater impact in the US market.
Windows computers are more for experienced computer users and is honestly a beginners trap. Also recommended for gamers, but it requires a lot more processing power due to the fact that the system uses so much CPU (depending on the OS, of course).
Macs are designed to be quick, convenient, and simple for new users to get what they need done. If you were to run Adobe Photoshop on both OSes with the same specs, the Mac would load the program faster. Now, you can even run Windows through Bootcamp.
A Mac is just a PC with a different OS nowadays. The argument stopped being about computer architecture sometime ago; Mac lost that one, now all you have is PC hardware and a choice between Mac OS, Windows, or Linux and the company that puts it all together for you.
If you want speed and dont care about usability, compatibility or games use linux, if you want ease of use and still dont care about games get a Mac, for everything else get a PC.
... Yes. Did you also realize that the argument itself stopped about a month ago?
Because Macs are just "a PC with a different OS" you get the exact same compatibility as a Windows OS. There's really nothing more awesome than having both OS's on one computer. If one fucks up, you have the other. In fact, crossover can RUN windows applications without the need of a windows install CD. For 20-40 bucks, it's worth it, if you have a Mac.
thats what apple would like you to think . its not true, in the eighties and way into the nineties every one from brian eno to fatboy slim used atari sts becatse nothing else could do it . thats not the case now.
@Wiilovewii Yup! So true! In the beginning, people started calling them IBM compatibles because in a sense that's what they were (anything that wasn't made by IBM was a compatible). But when IBM termed the coin PC, everyone started identifying DOS machines as 'PCs' and 'PC compatibles'.
LOL.... you have no idea what you're talking about. The first Macs were miles behind on both the Amiga and the ST, it was just a boring little business machine. What kind of comparison is this... And initially all software released for Amiga was ported from ST systems. The only decent Amiga is the Amiga 500, eventhough it's operating system (floppy, boot, floppy, start, floppy, game, floppy 2...) was pathetic.
Actually GEM was heavily inspired (with permission) by the Mac OS, they were very similar. But GEM was a good system for it's time IMO, for me Amiga's Workbench was pretty damn ugly in comparison.
@stunthumb Permission by whom? Apple later sued Digital Research (DR) for the likeness of GEM to many elements in the Mac OS. As a result, DR removed many of those elements (e.g. Trash Can) in their subsequent releases.
Having said that, prior to the release of the ST, Atari had done much of the work to port and customise GEM to work on their new ST line of computers. For some reason the lawsuit Apple handed to DR did not stretch to Atari and the ST version of GEM. If anyone knows why, pls tell.
In 1992, I found myself choosing a new computer. I'd used at ST for games and writing reports for college, but I wanted to get something more capable.
I chose Macintosh Classic II, and never regretted it. That became my main machine for the next six years (and it still works today). Apple's build quality and reliability are a lot more important, when you no longer want a machine just for playing games.
I don't agree that Apple has good build quality at least in their modern computers, what they do have is a very faithful user base, their computers can overheat and fail 3 times a year and apple can tell them in their face that that's a manufacturing problem, and still force them to pay for the repairs but apple fans still buy their computers, their are the customers every company would love.
Fair enough. I still enjoyed my ST for occasional games... but I never regretted doing my work on the Classic II. We forget, now, just how revolutionary both machines were.
True, very impressive designs if you come to think that technology designers now have very powerful computers to make computer circuit designs. The way they thought about everything from a hardware standpoint with the limited resources they had at the time is simply amazing.
@Ryoga2K Overheat? Hell, the intel iMac lab at my college has all kinds of problems, network retated because of the rediculous policies put in place, but they _NEVER_ overheat.
@richardmaudsley77 It's just an example, a friend of mine had a Macbook, the thing melted the screen, she went to Apple and they said it was a design flaw, they told her that anyway she would have to pay to repair it, which obviously she did, she is a Mac Fangirl, there's another guy that has one of the new Shiny Imacs, he has probably sent like 3 computers to apple because the motherboard fails, still they have charged him and obviously he is also an Apple Fanboy so for him its totally normal.
Melted the screen? Was she running it lid down? They'll have charged her for using it in a way they don't support, they've been telling people only powerbooks can do that.
And the other guy, I think either his warrantee has ran out, or he fucking broke it himself. Or you live in a shitty 3RD world country where it's legal to rip people off :)
@richardmaudsley77 Actually the guy with the motherboard problems is from Japan, he's a friend I visit every now an then so NO, Apple Fandom makes it cool for people to be ripped off and don't give a shit.
@richardmaudsley77 No.. he is just a Mac Fanboy and from what I see you're one too even if you deny it, only an Apple Fanboy would try to deny at every cost that their products are not precisely great quality and that their support is not good either.
@Ryoga2K I only own two apple products, both of them are 11 years old and I bought them used. So far, there's been no problem with them. Don't really give a shit beyond that.
Does Microsoft build computers? The reason these two are still there is because nobody would buy anything else today anyway. Remember NeXTSTEP (which eventually became Mac OS X by the way) or BeOS or stuff like that? These were operating systems later ported to the PC but they were intended for a machine of their own in the first place...
I agree, I enjoyed the flavor of the amiga and ST (I have both and still work). Now we just have the common PC based machine <-insert OS flavor here be it Windows, OSX, Linux, etc.... bleh!
@RaggedTiger70 microsoft do not make computers... get your facts right! they make the software :)
Apple are the best producer of computers in the world because they are much more reliable than say HP...
The fact thhat you don't like the OSX platform is your fault :) If you tried it for more than 5 minutes you would realise it was much better than Windows... :) And lastly, Microsoft get most of their ideas from Apple, so if Apple stopped, MS would be screwed too :)
I owned an Atari 1040ST, and all I can say? I had lots of fun as a teenager back in high school. Limitless games. Pirating galore. Didn't have to worry about buying many games. It was stealing, but we didn't see it that way back in the day, and we didn't have to worry about going to jail for hacking and getting caught with copyrighted software so much. Just didn't sell it to other people. That still was a no no. lol
Those were the days. I still have my old C64's haven't started them up in years. BBSing was a riot back then. I always wanted an Amiga or an ST but never got around to getting one. Macs were nice but very expensive, and the monochrome was a turnoff after being used to color.
Yeah. BBSing was cool. We had a lot of fun back then, huh? I think the internet has truly hurt the computing hobby these days. I liked it better back in the 80s with the computer clubs. :)
True, Sagan ! in the last images, there is the Dpaint Logo, which was developped and released in 85 on Amiga, using the bitmapped and bitplaned display modes of the Amiga chipset
There's more to computing than colour and screen size. Did they compare resolution?
slugnbozo 3 months ago
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRK!
plurp7 3 months ago
1/2 less... just like Macs of today vs PCs of today...
And the cool thing was, back when the Atari ST was in its prime, it used the same CPU (Motorola 68k series).
And yet the Mac survived to this day. Probably because they cost 2x as much as the ST... :( (or 2x the cost of a Windows PC... and, in each case, the same hardware architectures were used... (save for MIDI))
Thermodynamic 4 months ago
Mega ST wins. Mac sucks.
thecomputerwhiz1 5 months ago
Where did it all go wrong? :-(
matt9741399 7 months ago
Hey guys. Just a comment from me (maybe not relevant but) I got ST1024 running Cubase and few other things. After that got Apple after Apple. Today I have MacPro. I'm afraid of the speed how Apple discontinuing they products today (that was not the case before). On the other hand the old ST still playing important role in my studio ;-) how many years after?;-);-)
haraizmostara 7 months ago
The real Atari and Commodore (not the fake ones using the names), while probably helping to cause their own death, did some wonderful, charming computers. A standard Windows PC of today has all the charm of a sewer drain. Maybe a little bit less.
MattTheSaiyan 9 months ago 2
@MattTheSaiyan Actually, that was only true with the old 386/486 PC:s that had less charm than that of a cardboard box. Today, with most PC users being laptop owners, PC design and looks has in fact never been more important. Also, on the software side, both Windows and Linux nowadays offer loads of customization options. While I feel nostalgic over my long gone Atari days and youth, I have to say that I'm glad that the days of proprietary hardware architectures are long gone too...
eIectrostatic 8 months ago
@eIectrostatic - actually, the Atari ST used the same Motorola CPU as the Macs of the day had... it's all in the OS... (Granted, the Amiga - despite using the same CPU - knocked the ST and Mac out of the ballpark/planet/universe/multiverse by having innovations, but that just goes to show that innovations minus marketing equals inevitable collapse.)
Thermodynamic 4 months ago
I guess even back then, you paid Apple more for less.
idyllchilde 10 months ago
@idyllchilde Wasnt as bad as IBM though but yeah, you had to be clinically insane to buy a Mac over an ST or Amiga. There where alot of nutters back then clearly.
R33Racer 8 months ago
@R33Racer Don't be so credulous.
kidonlyle 4 months ago
@kidonlyle So you would have rather used a computer that costed twice as much, does the same job but only in black and white?
R33Racer 4 months ago
Back when 'competition' was a REAL concept and not empty words used by fake politicians.
HypnoToad72 1 year ago
But which one SOLD better? The Macintosh SE.
Theretrogamingroom 1 year ago
@Theretrogamingroom Uhh actually no it didn't. The ST & Amiga was so far ahead of the Mac and PC it wasn't even funny.
Apple made more money though, as the ST/Amiga cost roughly 50% of the retail price to build, and Macs something more like 15%
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@Theretrogamingroom
Only because Atari screwed up the USA marketing. In Europe, the ST actually did outsell the Mac.
gamewizard 1 year ago 3
The music was made on it? Sweet.
danfromphoenix 1 year ago
it's Atari Mega 2, dumbo!
H2OYoshi 1 year ago
This computer is musch not so better that a Macintosh SE while they made a bigger screen, colored screen and cost less. Just a copycat of Macintosh!
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568 Both ripped off the Amiga 500. Commodore's comp was totally cool.
colliric 1 year ago
@colliric Commodore made a comeback of Commodore 64, the Commodore Phoenix. Just I watched it on Rocketboom
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568
Actually it's got alot more in common with Commodore's Amiga computers, including expansion bays and side attachments. I notice though that the "Amigo" is going to be the budget model right? obviously they don't have the Amiga brand-name rights anymore so I guess "Amigo" is their compromise.
colliric 1 year ago
@colliric Yes, Amigo is a newest Amiga and a Phoenix is a Commodore 64 in the future.
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568 Amigo is not an amiga, and Pheonix is not a C64. They're just out of date chinese kiosk PCs with stickers on from some florida douchebag.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 NO, It is true and the Commodore came back. Just Google it.
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568 No, you really need to shut the fuck up now. The actual owners of the C64 is Nedfield, formerly tulip computers, and the owners of the Amiga computers is Hyperion Entertainment.
The guy claiming to be Commodore USA is actually just a guy who buys furnature and computers from china, and puts stickers on them before he sells them on for twice the price. He actually works out of a single story house in a florida ghetto.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
Comment removed
jason24568 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@richardmaudsley77 I saw on inter. YOU JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!
jason24568 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 Please don't fight. I knew I saw on internet. Don't let me to shut the fuck up!
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568 And I saw elvis was alive on a crazy man's sign on the vegas strip, but that ain't true either. I'll tell anybody who needs to shut the fuck up, TO shut the fuck up, especially when they're talking some one hundred percent pure bullshit.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 or did you mean a rumors that they need to SHUT THE FUCK UP.
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568 u mad
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 nope.avi did you like memes lke me?
jason24568 1 year ago
@jason24568
Where do you get that from? It was a completely different machine from the Mac. Oh, they both used the 68000 chip. I guess that makes the Amiga a Mac ripoff, too.
gamewizard 1 year ago
I used my 520ST until late 95 in concerts as a midi sequencer with Master Track Pro.
vjrei 1 year ago
This commercial seems fairly weird... the narrator doesn't even sound like a native speaker. Just look at the way he pronounces "colour", and at some point he actually says "createded".
Seriously, is this actually real?
VintageReviewsJr 2 years ago
see the amiga logo in there
A1260T 2 years ago
Comment removed
CoolDude6182 2 years ago
well, I guess it's not a problem for you then that the Mac is acting like it's better than the PC.
VintageReviewsJr 2 years ago
Comment removed
CoolDude6182 2 years ago
What the foodge should this change? Fact is, they also did it. That's like saying Hitler wasn't bad because KIngs did things he did before him.
VintageReviewsJr 2 years ago
Comment removed
CoolDude6182 2 years ago
This is the worst, really WORST excuse I have ever heard. And that Apple did that because Atari did is just stupid.
VintageJunior 2 years ago
@VintageJunior okay, you are right. I did research and I am sorry.
CoolDude6182 2 years ago
@VintageReviewsJr okay, you are right sorry.
CoolDude6182 2 years ago
lol a good advert demonstrating what a good deal the "Jackintosh" was in terms of cost. Brilliant comparison of the ST's colour display vs the mono MAC. I actually own a Mega ST and still use it every so often. Never saw this ad the first time round.
If Atari Corp had shown stuff like this a bit more aggressively, they would've made a greater impact in the US market.
JayArgonaut 2 years ago
HELL YEAH!!!
I am planning on buying a STFM or STE from b&c computer visions soon. very good computer. =]
GeminoSmothers 2 years ago
I wish I could find the music used for this commercial , if anyone has this or can remake it please contact me...
HANU8 2 years ago
a mac was (and is) something for wannabe's with too much money ...
r8qt7 2 years ago
right, thats why nerly all music producers use a mac oO
adrifromhh 2 years ago
as I said .. wannabe's ... you could achieve the same with a pc and half the money.
r8qt7 2 years ago
all this professional stuff is also about workflow and you really dont want to crawl through these ugly windows screens.
adrifromhh 2 years ago
almost all the relevant programs (adobe and co.) are also on windows. It's all about productivity and not about useless eye-candy.
r8qt7 2 years ago
Windows computers are more for experienced computer users and is honestly a beginners trap. Also recommended for gamers, but it requires a lot more processing power due to the fact that the system uses so much CPU (depending on the OS, of course).
Macs are designed to be quick, convenient, and simple for new users to get what they need done. If you were to run Adobe Photoshop on both OSes with the same specs, the Mac would load the program faster. Now, you can even run Windows through Bootcamp.
Nintendavin 2 years ago
A Mac is just a PC with a different OS nowadays. The argument stopped being about computer architecture sometime ago; Mac lost that one, now all you have is PC hardware and a choice between Mac OS, Windows, or Linux and the company that puts it all together for you.
If you want speed and dont care about usability, compatibility or games use linux, if you want ease of use and still dont care about games get a Mac, for everything else get a PC.
Agamemnon2357 2 years ago 2
... Yes. Did you also realize that the argument itself stopped about a month ago?
Because Macs are just "a PC with a different OS" you get the exact same compatibility as a Windows OS. There's really nothing more awesome than having both OS's on one computer. If one fucks up, you have the other. In fact, crossover can RUN windows applications without the need of a windows install CD. For 20-40 bucks, it's worth it, if you have a Mac.
I HAVE SPOKEN.
Nintendavin 2 years ago
Thank you for understanding
JTX5 2 years ago
Not really true. Recording studios bias towards mac, but private artists are the same with PC's.
For instance, why do you think the majority of music production software is for PC?
ChaseKittens 2 years ago
thats what apple would like you to think . its not true, in the eighties and way into the nineties every one from brian eno to fatboy slim used atari sts becatse nothing else could do it . thats not the case now.
steviegbcool 2 years ago
Yes I know, I also used an Atari. But Im talking about today.
adrifromhh 2 years ago
my point being that in the day it was atari or nothing, now you can use pc or mac,
steviegbcool 2 years ago
ha? there was commodore 64, there was Amiga which was again another commodore, there was mac then as well!
And PC is such a generic term! It was coined by IBM but now anything is actually a PC. Your Mac is also a PC!
Wiilovewii 2 years ago 12
im talking about music production
steviegbcool 2 years ago
I KNOW! it makes me so angry when people call em PCs lol they are IBM PCs.....
GeminoSmothers 2 years ago
@Wiilovewii Yup! So true! In the beginning, people started calling them IBM compatibles because in a sense that's what they were (anything that wasn't made by IBM was a compatible). But when IBM termed the coin PC, everyone started identifying DOS machines as 'PCs' and 'PC compatibles'.
TheRudeAmerican 11 months ago
@Wiilovewii I meant to say 'coined the term'.... I guess staying up all night is catching up with me. LOL
TheRudeAmerican 11 months ago
haha thats right my says she knew fatboy slim when he used an Atari! I even have some of his music. lol
GeminoSmothers 2 years ago
How old are you?
dtfageet 2 years ago
17 ;)
adrifromhh 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Atari ST Software sucks! Mac & Amiga has a lot of better software!
nicolunacba 2 years ago
looks like a troll who has never even touched an ST...
thudtheace 2 years ago 5
I used ST ¬¬
nicolunacba 2 years ago
LOL.... you have no idea what you're talking about. The first Macs were miles behind on both the Amiga and the ST, it was just a boring little business machine. What kind of comparison is this... And initially all software released for Amiga was ported from ST systems. The only decent Amiga is the Amiga 500, eventhough it's operating system (floppy, boot, floppy, start, floppy, game, floppy 2...) was pathetic.
1981Myname 2 years ago
Actually GEM was heavily inspired (with permission) by the Mac OS, they were very similar. But GEM was a good system for it's time IMO, for me Amiga's Workbench was pretty damn ugly in comparison.
stunthumb 2 years ago
@stunthumb Permission by whom? Apple later sued Digital Research (DR) for the likeness of GEM to many elements in the Mac OS. As a result, DR removed many of those elements (e.g. Trash Can) in their subsequent releases.
Having said that, prior to the release of the ST, Atari had done much of the work to port and customise GEM to work on their new ST line of computers. For some reason the lawsuit Apple handed to DR did not stretch to Atari and the ST version of GEM. If anyone knows why, pls tell.
slugnbozo 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
your gay
mynameisleeyesitis 2 years ago
In 1992, I found myself choosing a new computer. I'd used at ST for games and writing reports for college, but I wanted to get something more capable.
I chose Macintosh Classic II, and never regretted it. That became my main machine for the next six years (and it still works today). Apple's build quality and reliability are a lot more important, when you no longer want a machine just for playing games.
doobedoo22 3 years ago
Now thats funny.
vlgtube 3 years ago
I don't agree that Apple has good build quality at least in their modern computers, what they do have is a very faithful user base, their computers can overheat and fail 3 times a year and apple can tell them in their face that that's a manufacturing problem, and still force them to pay for the repairs but apple fans still buy their computers, their are the customers every company would love.
Ryoga2K 2 years ago
Fair enough. I still enjoyed my ST for occasional games... but I never regretted doing my work on the Classic II. We forget, now, just how revolutionary both machines were.
doobedoo22 2 years ago
True, very impressive designs if you come to think that technology designers now have very powerful computers to make computer circuit designs. The way they thought about everything from a hardware standpoint with the limited resources they had at the time is simply amazing.
Ryoga2K 2 years ago
@Ryoga2K Overheat? Hell, the intel iMac lab at my college has all kinds of problems, network retated because of the rediculous policies put in place, but they _NEVER_ overheat.
Not an apple fanboy either, commodore for life.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 It's just an example, a friend of mine had a Macbook, the thing melted the screen, she went to Apple and they said it was a design flaw, they told her that anyway she would have to pay to repair it, which obviously she did, she is a Mac Fangirl, there's another guy that has one of the new Shiny Imacs, he has probably sent like 3 computers to apple because the motherboard fails, still they have charged him and obviously he is also an Apple Fanboy so for him its totally normal.
Ryoga2K 1 year ago
@Ryoga2K
Melted the screen? Was she running it lid down? They'll have charged her for using it in a way they don't support, they've been telling people only powerbooks can do that.
And the other guy, I think either his warrantee has ran out, or he fucking broke it himself. Or you live in a shitty 3RD world country where it's legal to rip people off :)
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 Actually the guy with the motherboard problems is from Japan, he's a friend I visit every now an then so NO, Apple Fandom makes it cool for people to be ripped off and don't give a shit.
Ryoga2K 1 year ago
@Ryoga2K
You're friends with a retarded person? How kind!
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
@richardmaudsley77 No.. he is just a Mac Fanboy and from what I see you're one too even if you deny it, only an Apple Fanboy would try to deny at every cost that their products are not precisely great quality and that their support is not good either.
Ryoga2K 1 year ago
@Ryoga2K I only own two apple products, both of them are 11 years old and I bought them used. So far, there's been no problem with them. Don't really give a shit beyond that.
richardmaudsley77 1 year ago
haha and the funny yet sad thing is, mac came out ahead in the end where is atari pretty much obsolete.. this commercial is sadly funny
elextrixtechnixtree 3 years ago
Well Atari STs where still in use in studios over the world when a Mac Plus was pretty much useless since years.
Ryoga2K 2 years ago
I such sort of comparative ad allowed by the law?
krbosak 3 years ago
I agree with you RaggedTiger70, LOL
clayonicle 3 years ago
my friend has the mac lol
eviljoebob 3 years ago
Can I download this music from someware .
HANU8 3 years ago
I wish we still had Atari and Commodore, the BEST computer makers, rather than the worst: Microsoft and Apple.
RaggedTiger70 3 years ago 23
I agree with you RaggedTiger70
HANU8 3 years ago
nonsense
aqayax 3 years ago
Does Microsoft build computers? The reason these two are still there is because nobody would buy anything else today anyway. Remember NeXTSTEP (which eventually became Mac OS X by the way) or BeOS or stuff like that? These were operating systems later ported to the PC but they were intended for a machine of their own in the first place...
jesuisinnocent 3 years ago
I agree, I enjoyed the flavor of the amiga and ST (I have both and still work). Now we just have the common PC based machine <-insert OS flavor here be it Windows, OSX, Linux, etc.... bleh!
thudtheace 3 years ago
@RaggedTiger70 microsoft do not make computers... get your facts right! they make the software :)
Apple are the best producer of computers in the world because they are much more reliable than say HP...
The fact thhat you don't like the OSX platform is your fault :) If you tried it for more than 5 minutes you would realise it was much better than Windows... :) And lastly, Microsoft get most of their ideas from Apple, so if Apple stopped, MS would be screwed too :)
k1llmebill 1 year ago
@RaggedTiger70 Microsoft don't make hardware. Microsoft is not a "computer maker". Lol.
youpleb 1 year ago
@RaggedTiger70 atari sucks commodore still makes computers like the new commadore 64x.
pat20105 10 months ago
@RaggedTiger70 Yeah, it really is a shame.
morefredmoore2 6 months ago
The Apple logo on the Atari computer screen, cool, nice try Atari.
Lachlant1984 3 years ago
I've never used an Atari computer, I was too young to use computers when these came out, but the music in that ad was cool.
Lachlant1984 3 years ago
I owned an Atari 1040ST, and all I can say? I had lots of fun as a teenager back in high school. Limitless games. Pirating galore. Didn't have to worry about buying many games. It was stealing, but we didn't see it that way back in the day, and we didn't have to worry about going to jail for hacking and getting caught with copyrighted software so much. Just didn't sell it to other people. That still was a no no. lol
blicksflicks 3 years ago 3
Those were the days. I still have my old C64's haven't started them up in years. BBSing was a riot back then. I always wanted an Amiga or an ST but never got around to getting one. Macs were nice but very expensive, and the monochrome was a turnoff after being used to color.
gnorville 3 years ago
Yeah. BBSing was cool. We had a lot of fun back then, huh? I think the internet has truly hurt the computing hobby these days. I liked it better back in the 80s with the computer clubs. :)
blicksflicks 3 years ago 2
atari ste was my first 16bit computer,loved it to bits before upgrading to the amiga 1200.
Now i can run a more powerful amiga on my pc via emulation.Good ole days eh.
bazfanv2 4 years ago
True, Sagan ! in the last images, there is the Dpaint Logo, which was developped and released in 85 on Amiga, using the bitmapped and bitplaned display modes of the Amiga chipset
;-)
iamyourfuture 4 years ago
DPaint was available for ST too.
sqward 4 years ago
Interesting that they used images from the Amiga. In this legal climate, that's lawsuit bait.
SaganAppreciationSoc 4 years ago
cool. Long live the ST
boggabloke 4 years ago
Jackintosh wins! Fatality!
I still prefer the 1040STE or Mega STE tho.
1337Shockwav3 4 years ago
Amazing! Great to see this old masterpiece in its prime on youtube! Thanks for the upload.
jetcarjohnny 4 years ago 3