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  • I am amazed at the vitriol poured on you by the global warming- climate change fanatics, Right or wrong they deride you. It is surely becoming the new religious war of the 21st century. At the end of the day nature is in control not puny mankind. I don't think the so called proven science people get this

  • @AncientDestructions Ya, and think of this, I am just a nobody who posted a vid I thought was a great commentary on the situation. I think what really pisses them off is that with just a simple song and a background of snow and ice dwarfing a human into insignificance it points out the reality of the real situation. We are a mosquito to the planet and we control very little at all. And the earth has been cooling for the past ten years.

  • Wouldnt even make sense, but then again, you would have to study the subject to actually understand why its currently impossible to grow. I still have one for you, there are some nice places in the internet where you can buy satellite pictures of the earth to decorate your house. So buy one from 2009 and then one from 2010 or 2011, after that you only have to draw some lines and compare them. See for yourself, its THAT EASY

  • Right, it is not an informational video; it is just a commentary based on ignorance. As for having a "record low temperatures i many places" you apparently did not understand the term "global warming". Apparently you are happy to ignore the global picture. How many pictures do you need before you see the picture? Many low lying Pacific islands are experiencing the ocean heights as rising and encroaching their islands due to the mean rise of the oceans.

  • Actually the opposite is true. BTW how is it global warming has contributed to world wide cooler temps this summer?

  • Cooler this summer? NOAA disagrees. June, July and August 2009 were the warmest months of global SST on record.

    2007, 08 and 09 are the three record years for Arctic sea ice minimums. The six lowest maximums occurred all in the last six years.

    If, you are a scientist, you are from another universe where the laws of physics are different.

  • TRUMPHENT.... Try lying to people who don't have easy access to information. Like Bedoin sheep herders...

    The average June-August 2009 summer temperature for the contiguous United States was below average the 34th coolest on record, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAAs National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. August was also below the long-term average. The analysis is based on records dating back to 1895.

  • You protest too much and are projecting. The only liars regarding climate change are the deniers.

    Once again, NOAA asserts that this was the warmest Sea Surface Temperature Global Average Summer on record. That's just the entire ocean of the world being averaged over 3 months.

    You were born in the wrong time. You should have been around for the Italian Inquisition. You would have loved Galileo.

    So, when is your research going to be published? On which planet?

  • I actually copy pasted directly from NOAA website. This is just a wild guess but I am thinking maybe you actually believe the crap that you spew?

    It's not my research at all. It's from the very website you sited. Only I actually went there and looked. Perhaps you have a different website from NOAA? If so you can just direct me there? If you are trying to convince me with unsupported assertions it's a huge fail. Try using facts...I'm assuming you might even understand what a fact is?

  • 15 Jun 06 - Arctic sea level has been falling more than 2mm a year - a

    movement that [supposedly] sets the region against the global trend of rising

    waters. A Dutch-UK team made the discovery after analyzing radar altimetry

    data gathered by Europe 's ERS-2 satellite.

  • The tiny country of Tuvalu is not cooperating with global warming models. In the early 1990s, scientists warned that the Pacific coral atoll of nine islands - only 12 feet above sea level at its highest point - would vanish within decades, swamped by rising seas. Sea levels were supposedly rising at the rate of 1.5 inches per year. New measurements show that sea levels have fallen 2.5 inches since that time. Similar sea-level declines have been recorded in Nauru and the Solomon Islands.

  • Maldives:

    In our study of the coastal

    dynamics and the geomorphology of the shores," writes Mörner,

    "we were unable to detect any traces of a recent sea level rise.

    On the contrary, we found quite clear morphological indications

    of a recent fall in sea level."

  • Mörner: I am a sea-level specialist. There are many good sea-level people in the world, but let's put it this way: There's no one who's beaten me. I took my thesis in 1969, devoted to a large extent to the sea-level problem.

    I have been the expert reviewer for the IPCC, both in 2000 and last year. The first time I read it, I was exceptionally surprised. First of all, it had 22 authors, but none of them—none—were sea-level specialists

  • BTW, When you quote me try not to add typos. Or just copy paste my comments to be more fair.

  • Actually on many Pacific Islands it is has been demonstrated how the ocean has fallen by about a foot. Once again you fail.

  • dumb video, as in unconvincing, no data in contrast to on-going, accumulating,scientific data and time lapse photography over the past 30 years clearly showing, measuring, revealing loss of polar ice fields. But in contrast to all of the information this conspiracy whack job knows better than everybody else and Al Gore is getting rich to boot!

  • This is not an informational video. It's a commentary. For information you need to study the data. BTW the trend lately is colder summers. This summer had record low temperatures in many places. here in San Diego it was a very cool summer. And now it's over.

  • sooo your saying the Ice is not going but theres more of it ?

  • Those are called pseudo intellects. And it's painful to read about. You say if you're right or wrong doesn't matter... So, the difference between the world as know it ending, and the world remaining the same, is no big deal. Holy crap. I work for an American call center for people with bad credit and no brains, and it's not even this painful to listen to. If you want any respect by anybody in the near future, it might be best to just keep your mouth shut. No offense.

  • viperXXXX you quote me saying

    " You say if you're right or wrong doesn't matter"

    My actual statement

    "it was never about me being right or wrong"

    So here is what you got out of that, Your summery:

    "the difference between the world as know it ending, and the world remaining the same, is no big deal"

    Of course once again you refuse to argue the facts since you have none and you make up your own reality as it suits you.

  • once again viper you seem to deliberately misunderstand. Are you being deliberately dense or does this come naturally to you? I said it's not about me being right or wrong. It's about reality.

    How rich.. you come to my channel and tell me to keep my mouth shut. LOL. Put down the keyboard Mr. 1984. and just back away. Go take a chill pill and watch some funny movies. This thinking stuff is burning out too many of your circuits.

  • Who's to say how accurate their estimates are on arctic ice levels? I know it's hyped, they do that with anything that sounds catastrophic. But what if you're wrong? It would be a whole lot worse if you were wrong, than if a "non-believer" were wrong. All I'm suggesting is making a difference in what is thought to be causing global warming, because on top of that, it would be beneficial in many other areas. At least we would have renewable resources.

  • "arctic ice levels"???? What are you babbling about? There are no artic ice levels.

    " I know it's hyped". So the data is misleading and blown out of proportion. This is science fact to you?

    "what is thought to be causing global warming" Thought by who? a bunch of scientists who are biased by billions of dollars of federal bribe money? I would rather believe some credible scientists who are not funded by the government.

    "what if you're wrong? " It is not about me.

  • It's not about you, that's your response... God damn you're too stupid for words.

  • "God damn you're too stupid for words."... Like it matters if I am wrong? Or Right? I am just after the truth. Unlike you, who go chasing fantasies and babbling on and on about what if's and the sky is falling, blah blah blah. Right!! it is not about me and never was. It's about big government and taxing millions of Americans into poverty. But then you would not care about that.

  • I don't think we know quite enough about how the world works to adequately predict what will happen, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't go by probabilities. That alone makes this video kinda useless. I'll believe the scientists assumptions over my own, or a random youtube poster (minus the media's propaganda and scare tactics.) Either way, preparing for this, near/far into the future, would be much more resourceful, especially considering we know "global warming" happened before, & will again.

  • "scientists assumptions "??? Many scientists flat out deny that CO2 has any effect on warming. Quite the contrary they insist that co2 levels are driven by climate and not the reverse. Also the computer models are built from finanical models. And these models neither take into account sun spot activity or distance from sun or negative feedback.

  • Well, other scientists disagree with that, also. we can argue the differences of scientists opinions but when the time comes we'd be a whole lot more in trouble if it's true rather than not true. Like I said, I don't think anyone is smart enough to figure this shit out, adequately, so why not be on the safe side. One thing is for certain, if you don't believe it's happened before, you'd have to be a complete jackass.

  • Oh there has been global warming before. and each time life on this planet prospered and thrived. Check your history. All of your other assumptions based on "IF" are completely off target and based on further assumptions.

  • Arctic ice has now fully returned to normal extents.

  • 2008 Sea Ice Ends Year at Same Level as 1979

  • I'm looking for factual video with credible references. This is neither.

  • Go look at the data yourself. The data shows a big increase in Arctic ice in 2008. The data shows no warming in the past decade.

    This video is simply a commentary.

  • Fair enough. Guess I just wish folks would balance their opinions with factual backup now and then, given the seriousness of the subject matter. But you're right, people can say what they want, a very good thing.

  • Professor Robert Carter is an excellent and knowledgeable speaker on climate.  He has some very good youtube videos ... with lots of data ;-)

  • why don't you check the stats ? this is a comment on the reality, not the hype. But I guess you missed that and prefer to be spoon fed your "facts"?

  • You need to go to a web site like Cryosphere Today and in the upper right there is a video for six years. The ice melts, comes back, melts, comes back. Most GW supporter videos only show half a year.

  • And you think that all the industrial areas,cars,deforestation around the world are doing nothing in the Earth's climate?!

    I DO NOT know al Gore, I DO NOT know what he did and all Americans talk about him.The only thing that I know is you were the only country that was so aggressive about Kioto's Protocol....!!!

  • Prove your points please. I have seen no evidence that CO2 does anything but help the climate become more mild. Show your statistics please. I have mine already and it shows that CO2 was at one time 10 times higher and co2 actually helps plants grow in arid conditions.

  • one fact al bore missed is that CO2 actually contributes to REFORESTATION of desert areas. So the higher the co2 levels the easier it is for plants and trees to survive in desert areas. \

  • xaxaxaxa!!

    And you think that trees will survive in the desert??There's no even water!!

    Come on, you must be a Esso-Shell manager or something to say these things!

    GW is true, and it's Here!!!

    Like the economy crisis you americans you DON'T want to believe that will affect you or that is true...

    So don't tell me about climate change!!!!!!!

  • Have you seen the desert just north of Palm Springs California USA? No? there are thousands of trees living in sand. And the Negev desert of Israel where Scientists have thousands and thousands of acres of trees now living in the desert? and the area is GROWING...

  • USA, USA all the time USA...!

    Americans are like consuming the planet Earth drinking its "blood"....You are about to collapse as a "leading" country and I REALLY like that!!!

  • hohe20 you are really gonna like it when the rest of the world starves cause we can't be big daddy anymore. yuck it up sucker!!. When we a financial meltdown the world will have finanicial armegeddon. ROFL.

  • Big daddy? America is a terrorist country. I suppose you would assume 9/11 was not an inside job because you ignore the laws of physics. How would the world starve without America? That is extremely pompous. Just because the U.S is trying to copyright all forms of food supply and take over the world doesn't mean it's being big daddy. Being a terrorist country is not a good thing, believe it or not. The blind egotism of most Americans makes me sick. You're truly a victim of propaganda...

  • Which is fucking hilarious, considering propaganda and scare tactics are exactly what you're trying to argue against, and you're one of the larger victims of it. Kinda ironic, really shows the effectiveness of reverse psychology with the lower IQ'd. I'm kidding that was a stab, but you're still a victim.

  • hahahaha.... The way you talk, shows how immature and uncivilized you are...!! Regular american!

    P.S.

    Τhe world starves already cause of your wastefulness! CU

  • the world survives because of American ingenuity and imagination. Funny how Mexico claims USA robs them of money but billions of $ flow south every year to prop up thier economy. The rest of the world is much the same. USA sends trillions of dollars to other nations. When this stops they you will really have something to howl about.

  • OK. US may had some good economy BUT not anymore!! where is that trillions of dollars that make your "hard-like-steel" economy fall like that? And giant companies begging for some cents?

    This crisis affect us all...but first and foremost YOU!

    I live in Europe and i think the situations here are a bit better than there!!

  • hoehe20 I guess you never looked up Yatir forest on the edge of the Negev? It is one of the largest man made forests in the world and it is now extending itself into the Negev desert. It is actually beginning to expand on it's own because of the rise in CO2. Sucks to be ignorant, doesn't it? But then I would not know since I look up almost everything.

  • OK! In this part you're right. It's good seeing a forest growing on its own! But you think this can be done also in Sahara or Kalahari desert? I saw snow to an image in Yatir forest (Google it)! Go study science, chemistry, MATHS (the atmosphere itself) and then we talk about ignorance...!!

  • That's completely off topic. If you're going to pretend you know how good CO2 is for us and deny anything bad, when the smartest people in the world haven't even fully figured it out yet, you're worthless to talk to.

  • Actually I was exactly on topic. Did you not notice that the topic of this post is the bogus AGW hype? Sure you won't get anywhere debating me because you have nothing to offer. You have not shown one bit of evidence that CO2 causes global warming. In fact the evidence is the other way around. The climate models are not reflecting real data.

  • And that "real data" is also worthless. Scientists are proving themselves wrong every decade. I won't provide any evidence because it's beyond me. I will recite what I believe to be facts, but on this topic there are too many gray areas, and I don't have many facts, I'll admit that, you're right... For you to believe these "facts" are correct and state them as correct is kinda arrogant considering how little scientists know, and especially possible factors that haven't been considered by ANYONE.

  • no viper, of course you will not argue the facts because you have none. You never did.

    " I don't have many facts, I'll admit that, you're right..."

    Damn Right, . But then it was never about me being right or wrong. It was about the facts. and you don't have any. You and all those wanna be goverment paid "scientist's" never had facts. Instead they use hyperbole and personal attacks.

    "how little scientists know"

    Once again you speak of the Government "scientists"

  • The govt scientists..No, john, when things are based off of theory, all we can go by is what we know happened in history. There's no facts, simpleton. If you're going to ignore that, then once again, you're worthless to talk to. It's funny reading things from people who pretend to understand but don't have the slightest clue about anything but the bias media they get their little ideas from. At least I admit to not having much knowledge on the subject, what you're trying to say is just pathetic.

  • I dont care what anyone thinks. This video is awesome and the music rocks.

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