Ive never understood why stupid ass 18whlr drivers will take there big rode clogging hunk of shit trucks on the tightest curviest roads they can, big rigs are fucking dangerous on straight a ways let alone a super tight and twisty roads where they are constantly crossing the center line. fuck semi's!!!!!! things can be hauled by railways and disbursed using box trucks more appropriate for road use.
Im no ones parent, but for all the fellow riders who havnt been to the track, just go one time and give it a shot. It will more than likely give you a diffrent perspective of riding and lessen your desire to street ride. Watching these videos is enough of a warning. And think about all the times these moments dont happen on camera...
I am a truck driver and a bike rider and have been to the gap a few times, there is no way I would try that in a truck and I grew up driving on the roads around the gap and western north carolina. Most of the trucks that do this are new drivers that follow there GPS where ever it takes them instead of looking at a map or reading signs
Anytime we locals see a trucker we flag it down and escort it through. They realllly dont need to be there but sometimes the end up there via gps or map, and they just dont know what they are geting into. thank god you guys made it through. be safe
Unless it says no trucks then on a map to someone who ain't never been its a valid route.You don't think trucks should be on there, perhaps it is too tight for us, but we can't memorize every road in America, and on the map it looks like a good road. So they end up there. I double you catch the same truck twice on it though. And for the record, there are alot of roads that require us to break our lane to safely navigate where trucks HAVE to go. In fact pretty much any time we make a right turn.
@truckingirl379 I've read that there is legislation being discussed to allow trucks of 95,000 pounds instead of the maximum 80,000... trucks would have an extra axel (six vs four). I imagine this will mean even wider turns.
OMFG,I wud have flipped out if that were me.I shouldnt be watching vids like this.Makes me not wanna get back on my bike because of idiots(the truck of course) like this.I just cant enjoy 129 on my bike anymore.Im more stressed out over idiot drivers,cops,gravel,bicyclists,rather than having fun.Its just not fun to me anymore.I'll stick to my STi on 129.
CDL truck are way too long for this road. its going to take some one getting killed cause of a CDL driver chosing to use this road by using bad judement. Sense its a state why doin the state put a hight restrictment like 10 or 11 foot. and the pivot trucks woint be a problem for anyone. I drive a pivot truck and I would not want to drive this road with my truck.
@amiaredneck You're an idiot. Trucks shouldn't be allowed on that road because they physically cant complete that road without failing to maintain their lane. Nothing to deal with bikers. Most do go the speed limit so don't judge. Either go get a bike or shut up. And your sentence didn't make grammatical sense. Think next time before you say something stupid.
you know what's on that road now...proceed with causion or die....your choice...semi trucks should not be alowed to travel this road at all....don't moto race for sure..trucks or no trucks...
@rivierama71 Gotta argue you about that just on this one case. I pulled for Prime and England so I know a little bit about drivin a Freightshaker. If you look at footage of road from 0:26-0:38, it doesn't really look that bad enough for him to be THAT far over. Plus his tandems of his trailer were on the wrong side before the tractor was even makin the turn (Check cab angle at 0:19-0:21). Looks like he either went over from last turn or got spooked by the dropoff at the road's edge.
First off I agree with y'all that it was the trucker's fault. I was a former driver many years ago and I want to pass some advise to to the rest of y'all. Professional doesn't always equal experienced. Many companies hire drivers right outta school, like that one. About 1/4 the drivers you may see have less than a year driving. Companies sometimes sends a routing they supposed to follow and they don't know enough to change it. Or they may not know how to handle their rig yet. Be careful riding.
100% the truckers fault, there are many roads around deals gap, some see it as a short cut, the law is the law and you can only use your side of the road even if your taxes paid for both to be built..
yeah trucks shouldnt be on that road, if a semi was weaving in and out of the oncoming lane on a straight road, people would be outraged, and its that much worse because of the blind corners
@mcgeeser71 go chew on a giant bowl of "go fuck yourself". dickhead truckers like that who dont belong on that road hurt more people every year than bikers could ever hope to. one day, karma will put you under the wheel of a semi, then lets see who's the dumbass.
I drive a truck been safe driver 10 years now,there is no where on that road says trucks aint allowed,we get lost just like everyone else,I have seen alot of dumbass truck drivers and also seen a hole lot of dumbass bike riders we all got to share the road
@bubba29th "Share the road" doesn't mean you can drive on THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, into oncoming traffic! That guy could have killed someone easily!
For anyone who says the trucker is at fault has never driven a truck. I've driven on roads like this in a semi and trust me it sucks. It's just that the roads are so twisty that the trailer goes into the other lane on a left hand turn and you have to swing into the oncoming lane on a right hand turn so your trailer doesn't go into the ditch behind you. We don't drive like this on purpose to piss riders off. It's just the nature of the semi and the length of a 53 foot trailer gives us no choice.
@blackmkiv Kinda hard when the place you are delivering to is off of that road. I don't make the rules I just deliver the load. And I agree these roads shouls be restricted to trucks. Or have a small box truk deliver it.
@rivieraman71 it's an 11 mile stretch of road with almost nothing but tree on it. Most truck driver that end up on it do so because they simply don't know the road. By the time the figure out that going down it is a bad idea it's too late for them to turn around and they have to just push on. Only a small handful of truckers that know the road still use it.
@rivieraman71 So, the trucker was making a delivery to The Gap Store? There is nothing else on that road but the Gap Store and it can be accessed from the Robinsville side of the gap with out having to get on the dragon. No, this trucker was just using this route as a short cut, nothing else!
@rivieraman71 and you just answered why they shouldn't be on that road when they can't legally stay in their own lane and cause could be fatal dangers too everyone else on the road.
@rivieraman71 Truck driver at fault. PERIOD! If you can't drive in your lane, then go a different way or just stay at home. There are numerous signs warning about the switchback turns ahead and there are alternate routes. So far as I am concerned you should be cited for wreckless driving and lose your CDL for pulling an ignorant stunt like this. The trained CDL possessing driver is a professional driver and should act accordingly.
@rivieraman71 Precisely! As an Ex-Road driver, I agree, it does suck. That's why trucks should be banned on this roadway. Simple...there are other routes. Could be this is a way around the scales I been told. Please google ikes-law-restrict-use-of-us-highway-129-to-non-commercial-vehicles
gonna go to the gap soon, someone please tell me truckers really need this route and dont have another way to go ??
The more I see of this traffic , trucks cars and slower bikes, not so sure its quite the road it was said to be. Maybe in May 16 it will be less traffic, anyone else know what I'm to expect ?
yeah,hope somebody got the ID from that motorcycle rider goin that fast in blind curves like an idiot,not having enough time to react for situations like that. having common sense is a lost art!
@18756745 You mean like having enough common sense to give your semi a wide enough path around a blind curve that your trailer won't take up all of the other lane?
@hammerhead300 I don't know if 18756745 has ever been to the gap! There are turns tighter than the one in this video where the cab of the truck would have to be OFF the OTHER side of the road just to keep the trailer from smashing the guard rail on it's side of the road. If that were the case in this video the biker would have wound up under the trailer tires.
@18756745 If everyone knew how to stay in their respective lanes it wouldn't matter how fast you go. Bottom line is this trucker has no business on this road period. Anything other than a bike would have been road kill! There are tighter turns on the gap than this, their just lucky this wasn't one of them.
Two observations: (1) I didn't think semi-trucks were allowed on that twisty, narrow road for this very reason, (2) that'll make your butt pucker faster than you can say "supercalifragilisticexpalidcious" and leave an adrenaline-rush for some time afterwards!
I've lost my fair share of friends screaming at them for wanting to go fast around these corners. This is the California Coastline, like this Deal's Gap most of the way. And the mountains here too. It's horrible how people hog the road without a conscious and this is what I always worry about. They think they are the only one's out there. IDIOTS like that are insensitive of the existence of other's. There are a lot of dead bodies over the edge. THEY SHOULD PUT UP MONUMENTS ON EACH ACCIDENT.
I hope that someone got the I.D. Info off of the truck and sent this to the company. Other than that, good job on the rider for being within his limits.
Ive never understood why stupid ass 18whlr drivers will take there big rode clogging hunk of shit trucks on the tightest curviest roads they can, big rigs are fucking dangerous on straight a ways let alone a super tight and twisty roads where they are constantly crossing the center line. fuck semi's!!!!!! things can be hauled by railways and disbursed using box trucks more appropriate for road use.
cott10r 3 weeks ago
Im no ones parent, but for all the fellow riders who havnt been to the track, just go one time and give it a shot. It will more than likely give you a diffrent perspective of riding and lessen your desire to street ride. Watching these videos is enough of a warning. And think about all the times these moments dont happen on camera...
LeoVinceR1 1 month ago
I am a truck driver and a bike rider and have been to the gap a few times, there is no way I would try that in a truck and I grew up driving on the roads around the gap and western north carolina. Most of the trucks that do this are new drivers that follow there GPS where ever it takes them instead of looking at a map or reading signs
jeffnc03 1 month ago 2
that will raise yer pucker factor!!!
deathtrap68 1 month ago
Anytime we locals see a trucker we flag it down and escort it through. They realllly dont need to be there but sometimes the end up there via gps or map, and they just dont know what they are geting into. thank god you guys made it through. be safe
salsadude22 2 months ago
@salsadude22 i guess they can't see all the signs warning of sharp curves and telling semi's to turn around.
crashcx 1 month ago
Unless it says no trucks then on a map to someone who ain't never been its a valid route.You don't think trucks should be on there, perhaps it is too tight for us, but we can't memorize every road in America, and on the map it looks like a good road. So they end up there. I double you catch the same truck twice on it though. And for the record, there are alot of roads that require us to break our lane to safely navigate where trucks HAVE to go. In fact pretty much any time we make a right turn.
truckingirl379 2 months ago
@truckingirl379 I've read that there is legislation being discussed to allow trucks of 95,000 pounds instead of the maximum 80,000... trucks would have an extra axel (six vs four). I imagine this will mean even wider turns.
elijahdl 3 weeks ago
is a pivot truck usually drivin' by a pivot guy how does that work?
livinintheleftlane 2 months ago
OMFG,I wud have flipped out if that were me.I shouldnt be watching vids like this.Makes me not wanna get back on my bike because of idiots(the truck of course) like this.I just cant enjoy 129 on my bike anymore.Im more stressed out over idiot drivers,cops,gravel,bicyclists,rather than having fun.Its just not fun to me anymore.I'll stick to my STi on 129.
doublemcnasty 3 months ago
Damn what the hell was that truck driver doing there rofl
Nautical1994 4 months ago
Semis have no business on the Dragon... PERIOD.
itskyb 4 months ago 3
CDL truck are way too long for this road. its going to take some one getting killed cause of a CDL driver chosing to use this road by using bad judement. Sense its a state why doin the state put a hight restrictment like 10 or 11 foot. and the pivot trucks woint be a problem for anyone. I drive a pivot truck and I would not want to drive this road with my truck.
GUNBUNNY2BG4U 4 months ago
@GUNBUNNY2BG4U There are no low clearances to make it valid.
Tr2u1ck 2 months ago
@GUNBUNNY2BG4U A pivot truck? lol What country are you from?
mustang04ism 1 month ago
@mustang04ism If you had a CDL license. Which the sounds of it you doint, you would know that it's a tractor-trailer. Thats all.
GUNBUNNY2BG4U 1 month ago
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the motorcycles go the speed limit, they would see him coming!
amiaredneck 5 months ago
@amiaredneck You're an idiot. Trucks shouldn't be allowed on that road because they physically cant complete that road without failing to maintain their lane. Nothing to deal with bikers. Most do go the speed limit so don't judge. Either go get a bike or shut up. And your sentence didn't make grammatical sense. Think next time before you say something stupid.
w8tillucmiooo 5 months ago
Whoa! I bet that scared a few years off his life!
iveyspam 5 months ago 2
trucker should have at least leaned on the horn the second he realized he was gonna take up the entirety of the oncoming lane.
TheScientist0000000 5 months ago 2
you know what's on that road now...proceed with causion or die....your choice...semi trucks should not be alowed to travel this road at all....don't moto race for sure..trucks or no trucks...
katzruler 5 months ago
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katzruler 5 months ago
fuckin semi...
glockinmydraws85 5 months ago
@rivierama71 Gotta argue you about that just on this one case. I pulled for Prime and England so I know a little bit about drivin a Freightshaker. If you look at footage of road from 0:26-0:38, it doesn't really look that bad enough for him to be THAT far over. Plus his tandems of his trailer were on the wrong side before the tractor was even makin the turn (Check cab angle at 0:19-0:21). Looks like he either went over from last turn or got spooked by the dropoff at the road's edge.
sentry964 5 months ago
First off I agree with y'all that it was the trucker's fault. I was a former driver many years ago and I want to pass some advise to to the rest of y'all. Professional doesn't always equal experienced. Many companies hire drivers right outta school, like that one. About 1/4 the drivers you may see have less than a year driving. Companies sometimes sends a routing they supposed to follow and they don't know enough to change it. Or they may not know how to handle their rig yet. Be careful riding.
sentry964 5 months ago
100% the truckers fault, there are many roads around deals gap, some see it as a short cut, the law is the law and you can only use your side of the road even if your taxes paid for both to be built..
firedawg1998 5 months ago
yeah trucks shouldnt be on that road, if a semi was weaving in and out of the oncoming lane on a straight road, people would be outraged, and its that much worse because of the blind corners
slipsonic 6 months ago
Hahahaha, you just about got what you have coming to ya, dumb ass!
mcgeeser71 6 months ago
@mcgeeser71 go chew on a giant bowl of "go fuck yourself". dickhead truckers like that who dont belong on that road hurt more people every year than bikers could ever hope to. one day, karma will put you under the wheel of a semi, then lets see who's the dumbass.
chris71mach1 6 months ago
I drive a truck been safe driver 10 years now,there is no where on that road says trucks aint allowed,we get lost just like everyone else,I have seen alot of dumbass truck drivers and also seen a hole lot of dumbass bike riders we all got to share the road
bubba29th 6 months ago
@bubba29th "Share the road" doesn't mean you can drive on THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD, into oncoming traffic! That guy could have killed someone easily!
saron11 6 months ago 2
@bubba29th actually there are a bunch of signs that warn truckers to turn around due to switch-back curves
barnesj89 5 months ago
There is no way that driver could have kept his trailer in his lane! Its impossible dumbasses!
textronasv 6 months ago
For anyone who says the trucker is at fault has never driven a truck. I've driven on roads like this in a semi and trust me it sucks. It's just that the roads are so twisty that the trailer goes into the other lane on a left hand turn and you have to swing into the oncoming lane on a right hand turn so your trailer doesn't go into the ditch behind you. We don't drive like this on purpose to piss riders off. It's just the nature of the semi and the length of a 53 foot trailer gives us no choice.
rivieraman71 7 months ago
@rivieraman71 You shouldn't be on roads like that then.
blackmkiv 7 months ago 2
@blackmkiv Kinda hard when the place you are delivering to is off of that road. I don't make the rules I just deliver the load. And I agree these roads shouls be restricted to trucks. Or have a small box truk deliver it.
rivieraman71 7 months ago 2
@rivieraman71 it's an 11 mile stretch of road with almost nothing but tree on it. Most truck driver that end up on it do so because they simply don't know the road. By the time the figure out that going down it is a bad idea it's too late for them to turn around and they have to just push on. Only a small handful of truckers that know the road still use it.
weeeezzll 6 months ago
@rivieraman71 So, the trucker was making a delivery to The Gap Store? There is nothing else on that road but the Gap Store and it can be accessed from the Robinsville side of the gap with out having to get on the dragon. No, this trucker was just using this route as a short cut, nothing else!
TheBubbahog 5 months ago 9
@rivieraman71 and you just answered why they shouldn't be on that road when they can't legally stay in their own lane and cause could be fatal dangers too everyone else on the road.
It's called Ignorance
Beccy985 6 months ago
@rivieraman71 Truck driver at fault. PERIOD! If you can't drive in your lane, then go a different way or just stay at home. There are numerous signs warning about the switchback turns ahead and there are alternate routes. So far as I am concerned you should be cited for wreckless driving and lose your CDL for pulling an ignorant stunt like this. The trained CDL possessing driver is a professional driver and should act accordingly.
onefast76 6 months ago
@rivieraman71 Precisely! As an Ex-Road driver, I agree, it does suck. That's why trucks should be banned on this roadway. Simple...there are other routes. Could be this is a way around the scales I been told. Please google ikes-law-restrict-use-of-us-highway-129-to-non-commercial-vehicles
dhicks07 6 months ago
truckers have no respect for bikers because they have no respect for them
jasonjaymulliner 9 months ago
Yea the truckers was bad but what's also not smart is stopping right on the other side of a blind curve to talk about the semi.
ClevelandWheeler 10 months ago
if that trucker took the wrong turn i bet he was crappin his pants the whole time
huff1322 11 months ago
gonna go to the gap soon, someone please tell me truckers really need this route and dont have another way to go ??
The more I see of this traffic , trucks cars and slower bikes, not so sure its quite the road it was said to be. Maybe in May 16 it will be less traffic, anyone else know what I'm to expect ?
barymire 11 months ago
yeah,hope somebody got the ID from that motorcycle rider goin that fast in blind curves like an idiot,not having enough time to react for situations like that. having common sense is a lost art!
18756745 1 year ago
@18756745 You mean like having enough common sense to give your semi a wide enough path around a blind curve that your trailer won't take up all of the other lane?
hammerhead300 7 months ago
@hammerhead300 I don't know if 18756745 has ever been to the gap! There are turns tighter than the one in this video where the cab of the truck would have to be OFF the OTHER side of the road just to keep the trailer from smashing the guard rail on it's side of the road. If that were the case in this video the biker would have wound up under the trailer tires.
TheBubbahog 5 months ago 4
@18756745 If everyone knew how to stay in their respective lanes it wouldn't matter how fast you go. Bottom line is this trucker has no business on this road period. Anything other than a bike would have been road kill! There are tighter turns on the gap than this, their just lucky this wasn't one of them.
TheBubbahog 5 months ago
that was great you should have been a pancake for driving like that in a blind curve
bubba29th 1 year ago
@bubba29th So the rider should've gotten killed because the guy driving the semi couldn't keep his truck in his own lane?
If that's the way you drive, I hope your CDL gets pulled.
hammerhead300 7 months ago
yeah...we get them bastards coming thru there all the time...gotta leave some in reserve is what i say!!!
btw...thought it was funny that you escaped the truck but stopped in a blind curve!!!1 heehee...not being a prik...just saying
skywayghost929 2 years ago
Damn, that's a brick-shitting moment.
noob5000000 2 years ago
Two observations: (1) I didn't think semi-trucks were allowed on that twisty, narrow road for this very reason, (2) that'll make your butt pucker faster than you can say "supercalifragilisticexpalidcious" and leave an adrenaline-rush for some time afterwards!
Nice save, BTW.
osimnod 2 years ago
I've lost my fair share of friends screaming at them for wanting to go fast around these corners. This is the California Coastline, like this Deal's Gap most of the way. And the mountains here too. It's horrible how people hog the road without a conscious and this is what I always worry about. They think they are the only one's out there. IDIOTS like that are insensitive of the existence of other's. There are a lot of dead bodies over the edge. THEY SHOULD PUT UP MONUMENTS ON EACH ACCIDENT.
ouivalerie 2 years ago
I hope that someone got the I.D. Info off of the truck and sent this to the company. Other than that, good job on the rider for being within his limits.
PJFZ1 2 years ago
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wwyatt 2 years ago