@gadjox They were available as consumer products, but they definitely weren't all priced at average consumer prices. Prosumer, I guess you could say. Cards like the LAPC-I and Gravis Ultrasound cost upwards of $400-500 new.
I'm happy somebody else out there remembers the Game Blaster. What a POS. I used to listen to recordings of the Adlib with envy, and I almost never forgave my best friend for getting an MT-32.
@MrNeskio For the most part, yes. It's as close to the same musical composition as possible played through the differing sound standards. Several of them aren't exactly "MIDI" files, but they're similar in concept. And of course, the last one is a group of live musicians, not synthesized at all.
So which PC sound card here best compares to the Amiga? It's a pity the Amiga sound spec fell behind because Commodore were too lazy to develop a replacement for Paula.
my all time favorite youtube video. this video also got me hooked on phreakindee (his videos, not him personally :). it is also a part of my audio equipment testing suite :)
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The Roland soundcards = WIN! =) Always wanted one but never could afford one, especially back in those days they were close to 4 digits in price. Gravis Ultrasound was decent too but to my ears the Roland cards simply produced more soothing samples.
I was always curious about the Disney Sound Source. That dongle thing was always an option in my early games, yet I have never known anyone who actually owned one.
@ImoenOfTelengard If you're curious, check out my video on the Covox Speech Thing (the device the Disney Sound Source was based on). I talk about the DSS and what those parallel port devices actually did. They're pretty impressive for what they are.
I see you included IBM pc junior after the pc speaker, I thinkn the one after adlib is the atari st version (which had a similar sound chip to the pc jr).
Roland mt32 is epic, sc55 almost reminds me of barney.
Awesomeness. Out of curiosity, which card (excluding the final era) is your personal favourite? The Roland just beats everything for me, it sounds near live as well and growing up we actually shelled out for one of those expensive bastards even though we also had a sound blaster, I always set everything to Roland if available though. I think it was the SCC1 midi.
Thanks for that! There were two notable cards I could add though: Creative's first soundcard (Creative Music System or CMS) which I guess was remarketed as Game Blaster, and Media Vision's Pro Audio Spectrum. :)
Best sounding one is without a doubt the IBM PC speaker from 1981.
I have one of those computers in my basement. Now I have to dig it out and get my hands on a compatible version of monkey island so I can make a longer recording to put in my phone :)
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@sergelac With good reason! The 8-bit SB cards used a Yamaha YM3812 chip for music, which is identical to the one used in the AdLib card shown in the video. Including the SB cards would have been totally redundant.
@phreakindee "the 8-bit SB cards used a Yamaha YM3812 chip for music, which is identical to the one used in the AdLib card shown in the video. Including the SB cards would have been totally redundant." I remember this. You could get away with selecting Yamaha with the adlib card in most games. Cool video :)
Actually, I may be wrong about OPTi, and I know I'm wrong about AdLib. I know our Windows 98 had Wavetable (actual good wavetable, not Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth) and Media Rack, and our Windows 95 had an OPL3 card, not OPL2.
Ah, AdLib music. That really takes me back! Amazon Trail, Hunchback of Notre Dame Topsy Turvy games, Toy Story Animated Storybook... a whole s***load of programs that used old-school MIDI, and I cannot get enough of it!
The Roland LAPC is the card I think that first of all and most properly seems to give the sound most akin to what the end product was supposed to be. Either way, great video.
/great vid again :) I never had a chance to hear most of this sound cards. Its really hard to say which one sounds best. I remember that Gravis ultrasound was some kind of highend, but none of my friends had one. Today i have to admint, that its not that good.
I prefer the ones that came before the Roland LAPC-1/MT-32. Everything that came after had too much bass. I don't like bass for some reason. In fact, that has a lot to do with why I'm not a huge fan of modern music.
You got all these people who are really good at making the loudest, most obnoxious thumping sound that technology can allow, which is fine.... but where are the musicians?
Great work, one of my fav vids to share showing how different legacy sound cards were! TYVM!
Now if only there were more card types shown. I happen to have at least 12 isa soundcards not listed, from the original sound blaster pro to crystal chipsets, mwave, opti , etc.
Let me know if you ever want to redo a version 2 of this. I be glad to help the project! =)
@waytostoned The purpose of this was only to show "major steps" in IBM PC sound card history, as played through MI's theme song. I certainly wouldn't mind doing a much more involved video sometime, showing like a hundred sound cards or something :D
@phreakindee If you choose to do something like this, or a similar video, I think it might be interesting playing one song continuously and changing cards where the previous left off. Only downside to this would be that some parts of the song might play better than other parts on different cards, and comparing the same part of the song is the only strong comparison available.
@Scrooj1 That is exactly why I chose to do it this way instead of crossfading. A direct comparison is what I was going for, and I find this method worked better when creating the video.
@waytostoned Oh my God! I loved OPTi! Our old Windows 98 had an OPTi card with Wavetable and the awesome program Media Rack, which could play MIDI files and record (and play) WAV files, as well.
The SCC-1... _almost_ sounds better than the MT-32--it comes REALLY close. I'd really have to call it a tie. They trounce everything else. The video actually gives a poor example of how the MT-32 really sounds for the game.
@Zanik99 The SCC1 is based on the Sound Canvas specification (the Roland SC-55) while the MT32/LAPC-I uses Linear Arithmetic synthesis (like the Roland D-50). The SCC1 *could* emulate the MT32, however.
@merkur32123 It's not a very good example of what the Tandy chip was capable of, really. Check out the game Zeliard for an example of excellent Tandy music which FAR surpasses the IBM PC speaker.
i loved my adlib compatible card back in the day.. though whenever i needed money id sell it to a classmate for $40.. then end up buying it back a few months later when they'd upgrade :) till i finally got a soundblaster!
@ImperialProductions Not an original one, no. I have a Sound Blaster 2.0 with the CMS/Game Blaster chips installed, but I'm missing the third chip which is required to use them properly. Sucks.
@Audiomancer It sure was. It was a big external unit and it cost $550, but it was also geared more towards musicians and could be used with a MIDI keyboard, not just a computer.
The PC-only internal version pictured in this video was a little cheaper, only $425, haha.
@phreakindee you mean these? /watch?v=mYZXNVHVfhc . no.
in ur video is sampling. i liked your video by the way. if you want a 2011 version, i can remaster the music score (midi) in 'Reason 5' way better than lucasarts remastering :)
@thiagotecnico No, I don't mean that at all. I'm talking about the game - Monkey Island SE from 2009 for Xbox 360, PS3, PC etc. The entire soundtrack was redone using instruments played by artists in a studio, & this info comes directly from LucasArts themselves. I really do not know why people insist on arguing this, because you're arguing the the people that made the game, not me. Maybe they lied. This is the track, played using real instruments, from the '09 game's menu: watch?v=KtEJEwIpanE
@phreakindee If it's true that it's real musicians in a studio, then so be it. However, I'm not going to blame someone for thinking that it's sampled, and badly at that, for something that is professional work. It could be a decrease in quality because of YouTube, I don't know:) Since I'm already writing, I look forward to seeing new videos of yours pop up on my homepage. My wife has even grown fond of them:)
@LaukkuTheGreit Hmm, that is quite possible, I didn't think of that... I still feel it should be included, as the GUS I feel was a major player in the sound card battles of the time.
To my ears MT-32/LAPC-I win then Adlib comes second and the rest just sound off/wrong. I've only owned Adlib clone/GUS ACE/XG card so at most I may be biased toward Adlib.
@ratix98 Should've added a disclaimer that I disconnected the beeper from my first PC that had one. And the ones I've built since I've not added internal speaker/beeper. Today however the windows beep driver has to be disabled to avoid unexpected beeps.
I just found out that the Soundblaster 1 is compatible with the Gameblaster. So setting SBTYPE to SB1 in the DOSbox configuration file will cause to play Gameblaster sounds correctly. For GUS sound in DOSbox we have to download a properly set GUS driver directory and in the configuration file modifying the GUS setting to TRUE and specifying the location of the driver directory at ULTRADIR.
But yes nothing compares to the original hardware.
I tried Monkey Island in DOSbox earlier with all kind of sound emulation (EGA and VGA floppy versions), well what I heard was Gameblaster and Soundblaster exactly with Adlib sounds, and all the Roland sounds were just midi sounds with very stupid instrument combination (or what is it called in english). I didn't know that there is so much difference when we use real hardware... And neither DOS versions of MI seems to support GUS...
I love that LucasArts adventures have so nice PCspeaker musics.
@1xWertzui Yes, it's amazing how much different the real hardware can be! One of the reasons I collect hardware as I do.
The GUS music is one of the Monkey Island CD-ROM editions, as far as I know, one of those which came in the early nineties. I could be wrong, the sample came from Crossfire Designs.
@1xWertzui The reason different cards sounds so different just when playing back regular MIDI music is because different cards use different wavetables. The same principle goes for earlier audio standards as well, similar sounding waves in the same coding positions (of course that's handled by drivers, but on code level the calls remain the same), was neat with non-standard and yet compatible hardware. (As said though - you still needed driver support of course.) Lovely nostalgic vid!
I am assuming that the last one is the graphics card that is built into computers that can create almost any sound. But for some reason, they still sell sound cards.
@HoneycombAgent Haha, who is that, the official sound card police? I don't need to explain anything, this is just a simple video showing a sample of the major sound cards for a game. It is not meant to be a comprehensive study or an in-depth review or anything at all but a diversion...
@HoneycombAgent Nope. This is meant to show the main cards PC Monkey Island officially supports music for. I've never even seen a specific 18-voice OPL3 version of the song in any of the MI games, much less the rarely-used OPL4. If I wanted to include those, I could have also included any number of other formats and wavetables and whatever the crap else. This is just a selection of well-known steps in sound card history, other stuff would crowd things up. If you want those, make your own video.
Best Video Game ever. The first one took me a year to beat. But tales of monkey island took me about 3 weeks with the hints turned way down. They don't make them like they use too.
Were all of these consumer cards? Some of them look pretty intricate and expensive.
gadjox 1 week ago
@gadjox They were available as consumer products, but they definitely weren't all priced at average consumer prices. Prosumer, I guess you could say. Cards like the LAPC-I and Gravis Ultrasound cost upwards of $400-500 new.
phreakindee 1 week ago
I love it when I discover a new awesome YouTube channel with tons of awesome geeky PC videos.
metabog 1 week ago
I like the 1:04 version best
MrWatsuG 2 weeks ago
@MrWatsuG Me too! It is the most haunting and serious.
arknell 1 week ago
to me the IBM PC speaker sounds the coolest
OhNoNotMyPenis 2 weeks ago 2
I'm happy somebody else out there remembers the Game Blaster. What a POS. I used to listen to recordings of the Adlib with envy, and I almost never forgave my best friend for getting an MT-32.
arborvitian 2 weeks ago
So if i understood correctly, this is the same midi file played with different sound cards?
MrNeskio 1 month ago
@MrNeskio For the most part, yes. It's as close to the same musical composition as possible played through the differing sound standards. Several of them aren't exactly "MIDI" files, but they're similar in concept. And of course, the last one is a group of live musicians, not synthesized at all.
phreakindee 1 month ago
@phreakindee Understood, thank you!
MrNeskio 1 month ago
I keep coming back to this! One of the best videos on youtube ^^
tossabaddle 1 month ago 2
listen to adlib directly after listening cd audio, it sounds so flat!
Laguzzaproductions 1 month ago
So which PC sound card here best compares to the Amiga? It's a pity the Amiga sound spec fell behind because Commodore were too lazy to develop a replacement for Paula.
Foebane72 1 month ago
Did you update this video? I remember the game blaster sounding much fuller and dirtier...
scose 1 month ago
my all time favorite youtube video. this video also got me hooked on phreakindee (his videos, not him personally :). it is also a part of my audio equipment testing suite :)
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22people had PS1
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TrumpetCallofGodLT 2 months ago
The Roland soundcards = WIN! =) Always wanted one but never could afford one, especially back in those days they were close to 4 digits in price. Gravis Ultrasound was decent too but to my ears the Roland cards simply produced more soothing samples.
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Chaniyth 2 months ago
Gameblaster sounded like Gameboy. LOL.
Chaniyth 2 months ago
Man, stereo sound, headphones, Game Blaster and this game do NOT mix.
TobyTechTips 2 months ago
The Microsoft Wavetable Synth is a modified version of Roland Sound Canvas(I think, I do know it is from a Roland Card).
JUSXTREME96 2 months ago
@JUSXTREME96 I'd +1 that.
TobyTechTips 2 months ago
I was always curious about the Disney Sound Source. That dongle thing was always an option in my early games, yet I have never known anyone who actually owned one.
ImoenOfTelengard 2 months ago
@ImoenOfTelengard If you're curious, check out my video on the Covox Speech Thing (the device the Disney Sound Source was based on). I talk about the DSS and what those parallel port devices actually did. They're pretty impressive for what they are.
phreakindee 2 months ago
Man, I remember how amazed I was when the Roland one from 1988 came out, I said "It can't get any better then this!" to myself, oh was I wrong.
MetaTekReviews 2 months ago
Ultrasound to conquer all!
Szederp 2 months ago
General Midi all the way :D
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Amazing. <3
eXiidus 2 months ago
are the Roland cards made by the same Roland company that makes keyboards?
eyin90 2 months ago
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Yes.
Chaniyth 2 months ago
i miss my AWE32, what an impressive card it was
tf2cheats 2 months ago
I wanna say that I prefer the Roland cards over even the newest cards. Those sounded freakin awesome!!
cAPSlOCKrOXX 3 months ago
I see you included IBM pc junior after the pc speaker, I thinkn the one after adlib is the atari st version (which had a similar sound chip to the pc jr).
Roland mt32 is epic, sc55 almost reminds me of barney.
nickantibarney 3 months ago
AdLib was always my favorite.
Mrster 3 months ago
Those Roland cards seem to be the best sounding
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roland lapc, wtf this is one is huge
theIpatix 4 months ago
man that 1988 game blaster is all over the place. wtf
fressfisch 4 months ago
THIS IS THE GREATEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. I CAN DIE WITHOUT REGRETS NOW.
lumbuxia 4 months ago 2
Awesomeness. Out of curiosity, which card (excluding the final era) is your personal favourite? The Roland just beats everything for me, it sounds near live as well and growing up we actually shelled out for one of those expensive bastards even though we also had a sound blaster, I always set everything to Roland if available though. I think it was the SCC1 midi.
ModernDoomer89 4 months ago
Thanks for that! There were two notable cards I could add though: Creative's first soundcard (Creative Music System or CMS) which I guess was remarketed as Game Blaster, and Media Vision's Pro Audio Spectrum. :)
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vyruss000 4 months ago
Nice clip. Would be even better if each sound card had a caption explaining a bit of what made it an advance over previous tech.
zunube 4 months ago
How very interesting. The music from the SE version heard in your video sounds VERY different than it does in my copy.
GregsAnimation 5 months ago
I love the Monkey Island theme
shaveensk 5 months ago
good video... can you do a video of paula (amiga computers) and sid (commodore 64 computer) audio chips, both playing the same melody?
miky96forever 5 months ago
@miky96forever I know the Amiga had this game, but the C64? No. There was never Monkey Island on the C64.
TeamRocketReviews 5 months ago
@TeamRocketReviews well, imho, you can do this with another melody, if there is a game for both amiga and c64.
miky96forever 5 months ago
The 1987 Adlib says "(C) 1990" on the card. :D
AsperinpOT 5 months ago
@AsperinpOT Yeah, that's when that particular card was manufactured, although it was introduced in '87.
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TeamRocketReviews 5 months ago
This theme's so awesome, it doesn't even suck on a crappy internal speaker!
thevisualboy37 5 months ago
adlib & mt-32 win hands down
effektor2000 5 months ago
the 1987 one is tight
dcj991 6 months ago
Wow, great vid.
Its a credit to the composition of the tune that they ALL sound good, only in different ways :)
twdarkflame 6 months ago
This was great! Thanks for sharing!
...what? 21 dislikes? It's probably 21 of those people that compare .mid to .mp3 ...
Kattywampus 6 months ago
PC had no sound till soundblaster 16 hit the market around mid 90s.... C-64 all the way!!!
maiki60fps 6 months ago
very verY cool i like 8 bit sound ;D)
Sandmann889 6 months ago
I remember Gravis Ultrasound makin music-making on trackers way better when it was launched.... :)
larsge 6 months ago
Best sounding one is without a doubt the IBM PC speaker from 1981.
I have one of those computers in my basement. Now I have to dig it out and get my hands on a compatible version of monkey island so I can make a longer recording to put in my phone :)
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Mogley52 6 months ago
Ha the Game Blaster sounds a lot like an C-64!
Scopie33 6 months ago
Man, The Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition is amazing. Pressing F10 for nostalgia? CHECK!
MetagamingCommunity 7 months ago
nice but you forgot Sound Blaster 8 bit
sergelac 7 months ago
@sergelac With good reason! The 8-bit SB cards used a Yamaha YM3812 chip for music, which is identical to the one used in the AdLib card shown in the video. Including the SB cards would have been totally redundant.
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@phreakindee "the 8-bit SB cards used a Yamaha YM3812 chip for music, which is identical to the one used in the AdLib card shown in the video. Including the SB cards would have been totally redundant." I remember this. You could get away with selecting Yamaha with the adlib card in most games. Cool video :)
delatroy 5 months ago
@phreakindee What about the SoundBlaster 16?
TeamRocketReviews 5 months ago
@phreakindee So that means the Soundblaster is basically a clone of the AdLib?
TeamRocketReviews 5 months ago
@TeamRocketReviews Music capabilities only. AdLib does not handle sampled sound, which was SB's main event.
ImantaBabite 4 months ago
@phreakindee Unless the music used Duel OPL2's or was MOD based
Dakkiller1 3 months ago
The Roland LAPC-1 sounds like cd quality, so if you could afford it back then, you get amazing quality for 1988 compared to the other cards.
Classicvideogames1 7 months ago
@Classicvideogames1 Or you could buy a MT-32 and hook it up to the MIDI ports for the same effect.
raymangold22 6 months ago
Actually, I may be wrong about OPTi, and I know I'm wrong about AdLib. I know our Windows 98 had Wavetable (actual good wavetable, not Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth) and Media Rack, and our Windows 95 had an OPL3 card, not OPL2.
thevisualboy37 7 months ago
tandy is the best one
mighty3alloa 7 months ago
Ah, AdLib music. That really takes me back! Amazon Trail, Hunchback of Notre Dame Topsy Turvy games, Toy Story Animated Storybook... a whole s***load of programs that used old-school MIDI, and I cannot get enough of it!
thevisualboy37 7 months ago
Where was the Amiga sound? :D
tjockfet 7 months ago
@tjockfet I'll tell you where it's not. Not in evolution on PC audio...
Yaotzin51 7 months ago
lol whats funny is the old 1981 IBM sounds the best out of all of them IMO lol
Deeredman4 7 months ago
The Roland LAPC is the card I think that first of all and most properly seems to give the sound most akin to what the end product was supposed to be. Either way, great video.
evilmiera 7 months ago
/great vid again :) I never had a chance to hear most of this sound cards. Its really hard to say which one sounds best. I remember that Gravis ultrasound was some kind of highend, but none of my friends had one. Today i have to admint, that its not that good.
MoochBootch 7 months ago
No wonder the LAPC-I has great sound, ITS HUGE!!!!
Nicholasc99 7 months ago
I prefer the ones that came before the Roland LAPC-1/MT-32. Everything that came after had too much bass. I don't like bass for some reason. In fact, that has a lot to do with why I'm not a huge fan of modern music.
You got all these people who are really good at making the loudest, most obnoxious thumping sound that technology can allow, which is fine.... but where are the musicians?
TheSmackerlacker 7 months ago
the 1987 one sounds like it could be in runescape a couple years ago
MrBlucrow 8 months ago
amazing
regism1980 8 months ago
Very cool. Thanks for the vid.
BrianPicchi 8 months ago
The roland sounded better with the bit of reverb (at least I think that's what I heard :P) just before waveblaster
sinephase 8 months ago
Great work, one of my fav vids to share showing how different legacy sound cards were! TYVM!
Now if only there were more card types shown. I happen to have at least 12 isa soundcards not listed, from the original sound blaster pro to crystal chipsets, mwave, opti , etc.
Let me know if you ever want to redo a version 2 of this. I be glad to help the project! =)
waytostoned 8 months ago 2
@waytostoned The purpose of this was only to show "major steps" in IBM PC sound card history, as played through MI's theme song. I certainly wouldn't mind doing a much more involved video sometime, showing like a hundred sound cards or something :D
phreakindee 8 months ago 4
@phreakindee If you choose to do something like this, or a similar video, I think it might be interesting playing one song continuously and changing cards where the previous left off. Only downside to this would be that some parts of the song might play better than other parts on different cards, and comparing the same part of the song is the only strong comparison available.
Scrooj1 5 months ago
@Scrooj1 That is exactly why I chose to do it this way instead of crossfading. A direct comparison is what I was going for, and I find this method worked better when creating the video.
phreakindee 5 months ago
@waytostoned Oh my God! I loved OPTi! Our old Windows 98 had an OPTi card with Wavetable and the awesome program Media Rack, which could play MIDI files and record (and play) WAV files, as well.
thevisualboy37 7 months ago
so awesome! thanks for this great video!
alexriesenbeck 8 months ago
2112th liker :D
ukeleleboy97 8 months ago
THANK YOU for doing this! Awesome! :)
JackiePaquito 8 months ago
Its funny how we went from simple bloops and bleeps to today's PC audio.
games4356 8 months ago
Quite like the MT32. Funky.
Branimations 10 months ago
Would I assume that the AdLip was FM-based, like the Genesis?
Novetrix 10 months ago
@Novetrix Yes, it's a Yamaha FM synth chip, very much like the Genesis. I have a set of videos on the AdLib card if you'd like more info :D
phreakindee 10 months ago
i like the IBM pc-speaker-bieber-ting and the sound blaster. but the mt32 is a also good
vertifai 10 months ago
The SCC-1... _almost_ sounds better than the MT-32--it comes REALLY close. I'd really have to call it a tie. They trounce everything else. The video actually gives a poor example of how the MT-32 really sounds for the game.
biffrapper 10 months ago
I'm wondering if there are VSTs that can emulate all these sound cards. Would be cool to have all these sounds to my disposal.
RetardicA 10 months ago
@RetardicA Get some soundfonts.
jimmybrite 9 months ago
I remember when I upgraded to a SB on my 386SX PC. I even had a SCSI drive.
jvolstad 10 months ago
I wonder why the SCC1 and the LAPC1/MT32 are so different?
Zanik99 11 months ago
@Zanik99 The SCC1 is based on the Sound Canvas specification (the Roland SC-55) while the MT32/LAPC-I uses Linear Arithmetic synthesis (like the Roland D-50). The SCC1 *could* emulate the MT32, however.
phreakindee 11 months ago
i love this video,better than justin bieber
mateo123i 11 months ago 2
Roland MT32 FTW !
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AngeloAdellna319 11 months ago
Why does Tandy's SPEAKER sound worse than the original?
merkur32123 11 months ago
@merkur32123 It's not a very good example of what the Tandy chip was capable of, really. Check out the game Zeliard for an example of excellent Tandy music which FAR surpasses the IBM PC speaker.
phreakindee 11 months ago
Sir I love this video.
hughweilun 11 months ago 3
When I play this game on Dos Box the intro music sounds as if it was played from Adlib.
gothicfan51 11 months ago
@gothicfan51 That's because that's what DOSBox emulates by default - a Sound Blaster 16, which uses OPL2 of the Adlib
phreakindee 11 months ago 5
nice
spamstoper3 1 year ago
PC Speaker FTW!
Majeeva 1 year ago 4
i loved my adlib compatible card back in the day.. though whenever i needed money id sell it to a classmate for $40.. then end up buying it back a few months later when they'd upgrade :) till i finally got a soundblaster!
sleepersoundstudio 1 year ago
This song is going to be in my head all day!!
c0lumb037 1 year ago 2
Btw, Clint. Do you actually have a Creative Music System/ Game Blaster card?
ImperialProductions 1 year ago
@ImperialProductions Not an original one, no. I have a Sound Blaster 2.0 with the CMS/Game Blaster chips installed, but I'm missing the third chip which is required to use them properly. Sucks.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee Damn that must be annoying. I hope you can find it!
ImperialProductions 1 year ago
sounds like runescape
THEedcbb3 1 year ago
The MT-32 was actually from 1987, not 1988, though the LAPC version in the picture was indeed later.
GotNextVideo 1 year ago
I bet that Roland Mt 32 or whatever it was called card was extremely expensive when it first came out.
Audiomancer 1 year ago
@Audiomancer It sure was. It was a big external unit and it cost $550, but it was also geared more towards musicians and could be used with a MIDI keyboard, not just a computer.
The PC-only internal version pictured in this video was a little cheaper, only $425, haha.
GotNextVideo 1 year ago
the last isn't with 'live' instruments. they were sampled. btw these instruments exists + midi generated notes.
thiagotecnico 1 year ago
@thiagotecnico Tell that to the musicians that played those instruments live in 2009 for Monkey Island SE...
phreakindee 1 year ago 4
@phreakindee you mean these? /watch?v=mYZXNVHVfhc . no.
in ur video is sampling. i liked your video by the way. if you want a 2011 version, i can remaster the music score (midi) in 'Reason 5' way better than lucasarts remastering :)
thiagotecnico 1 year ago
@thiagotecnico No, I don't mean that at all. I'm talking about the game - Monkey Island SE from 2009 for Xbox 360, PS3, PC etc. The entire soundtrack was redone using instruments played by artists in a studio, & this info comes directly from LucasArts themselves. I really do not know why people insist on arguing this, because you're arguing the the people that made the game, not me. Maybe they lied. This is the track, played using real instruments, from the '09 game's menu: watch?v=KtEJEwIpanE
phreakindee 1 year ago 7
@phreakindee If it's true that it's real musicians in a studio, then so be it. However, I'm not going to blame someone for thinking that it's sampled, and badly at that, for something that is professional work. It could be a decrease in quality because of YouTube, I don't know:) Since I'm already writing, I look forward to seeing new videos of yours pop up on my homepage. My wife has even grown fond of them:)
Audiomancer 1 year ago
the jump to the adlib was amazing
the game blaster seemed awesome
everything following other than CD audio seemed a slightly altered (just different, not better) version of the game blaster.
the CD audio is awesome.
hobocamptheater 1 year ago
gotta love the first example ^^
ObamaGoesPostal 1 year ago
One of the patches for GUS allows it to emulate MT-32. So that's probably the way they got GUS "support"...
LaukkuTheGreit 1 year ago
@LaukkuTheGreit Hmm, that is quite possible, I didn't think of that... I still feel it should be included, as the GUS I feel was a major player in the sound card battles of the time.
phreakindee 1 year ago
Wow, PC speaker version is impressive considering how limited it is!
richardbirch2007 1 year ago
the gameblaster made it sound like it belongs on the sega master system. thats something i never knew.
thanks for the vid.
ratix98 1 year ago
To my ears MT-32/LAPC-I win then Adlib comes second and the rest just sound off/wrong. I've only owned Adlib clone/GUS ACE/XG card so at most I may be biased toward Adlib.
fourbarposer 1 year ago
@fourbarposer all computers come with a pc speaker broski
ratix98 1 year ago
@ratix98 Should've added a disclaimer that I disconnected the beeper from my first PC that had one. And the ones I've built since I've not added internal speaker/beeper. Today however the windows beep driver has to be disabled to avoid unexpected beeps.
fourbarposer 1 year ago
FIRST IS BEST!
MrJeade97 1 year ago 2
I just found out that the Soundblaster 1 is compatible with the Gameblaster. So setting SBTYPE to SB1 in the DOSbox configuration file will cause to play Gameblaster sounds correctly. For GUS sound in DOSbox we have to download a properly set GUS driver directory and in the configuration file modifying the GUS setting to TRUE and specifying the location of the driver directory at ULTRADIR.
But yes nothing compares to the original hardware.
1xWertzui 1 year ago
The Gameblaster (also called the creative music system), was pretty much 12 PC speakers at the same time
kargaroc386 1 year ago
I tried Monkey Island in DOSbox earlier with all kind of sound emulation (EGA and VGA floppy versions), well what I heard was Gameblaster and Soundblaster exactly with Adlib sounds, and all the Roland sounds were just midi sounds with very stupid instrument combination (or what is it called in english). I didn't know that there is so much difference when we use real hardware... And neither DOS versions of MI seems to support GUS...
I love that LucasArts adventures have so nice PCspeaker musics.
1xWertzui 1 year ago
@1xWertzui Yes, it's amazing how much different the real hardware can be! One of the reasons I collect hardware as I do.
The GUS music is one of the Monkey Island CD-ROM editions, as far as I know, one of those which came in the early nineties. I could be wrong, the sample came from Crossfire Designs.
phreakindee 1 year ago
@1xWertzui The reason different cards sounds so different just when playing back regular MIDI music is because different cards use different wavetables. The same principle goes for earlier audio standards as well, similar sounding waves in the same coding positions (of course that's handled by drivers, but on code level the calls remain the same), was neat with non-standard and yet compatible hardware. (As said though - you still needed driver support of course.) Lovely nostalgic vid!
PeTTs0n88 1 year ago
This music always makes me smile. Such nostalgic bliss.
theinquisitor 1 year ago
damn... Secret of Monkey Island supported everything...
kargaroc386 1 year ago
Game Blaster is fckn cool! I love it. It's sounds like Enterprise 128, much better than ADLIB.
benedekco 1 year ago
@benedekco Enterprise 128? HOW RARE!
jjovereats 1 year ago
nice vid
Bozebo 1 year ago
DOSBox can emulate all of these sounds.
Microsoftultimatefan 1 year ago
@Microsoftultimatefan
AWE32? I don't think so!
benedekco 1 year ago
The Game Blaster sounds like PC speaker.
Microsoftultimatefan 1 year ago
Does this game have support for Sound Blaster?
Microsoftultimatefan 1 year ago
I am assuming that the last one is the graphics card that is built into computers that can create almost any sound. But for some reason, they still sell sound cards.
Microsoftultimatefan 1 year ago
That was beautiful <3 I got so much nostalgia there.
FinalGamerJames 1 year ago
1:25 HOLY SHIT
MrGameboy1989 1 year ago 6
@MrGameboy1989
Yea, I think it is the greatest of all
glodino88 1 year ago
@HoneycombAgent Haha, who is that, the official sound card police? I don't need to explain anything, this is just a simple video showing a sample of the major sound cards for a game. It is not meant to be a comprehensive study or an in-depth review or anything at all but a diversion...
phreakindee 1 year ago 19
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You skipped all of the OPL3 / OPL4 cards! REWRITE IT ... #FAIL
HoneycombAgent 1 year ago
@HoneycombAgent Nope. This is meant to show the main cards PC Monkey Island officially supports music for. I've never even seen a specific 18-voice OPL3 version of the song in any of the MI games, much less the rarely-used OPL4. If I wanted to include those, I could have also included any number of other formats and wavetables and whatever the crap else. This is just a selection of well-known steps in sound card history, other stuff would crowd things up. If you want those, make your own video.
phreakindee 1 year ago 28
@phreakindee
Data sent to CDiFan237
Good Luck explaining it to him when he plays it on his soundcards.
HoneycombAgent 1 year ago
Wow, I love the sound of the first Roland card!! :o)
RetroGamerVX 1 year ago
Best Video Game ever. The first one took me a year to beat. But tales of monkey island took me about 3 weeks with the hints turned way down. They don't make them like they use too.
Natphat05 1 year ago
Wow, well done! Love the progression over time!
Pr0Blackmagic 1 year ago
It looks to me as volume button
mmitanka 1 year ago
That GameBlaster is like sex for my ears. ^_^ 8-bit FTW!
JTCPingas09 1 year ago 2
@JTCPingas09
You like that electronic sort of noice coming through the card?
TrenzorZ 1 year ago
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!1
revoisachampion 1 year ago
It sounds bad ass on all of them.
Gameplayvidyas 1 year ago
The 1988 Roland sounds so cool, and the Gravis UltraSound just sounds slightly breathy. I have to say, nice vid.
extralargetuna 1 year ago
Does the GameBlaster have a built in mini speaker? I mean that little circle at the top of the card.
neoqueto 1 year ago
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@neoqueto It looks to me as Volume button
mmitanka 1 year ago