@smurfboywv You are exactly right, love is not a sin.
But we're not talking about love, we're talking about the sin of homosexuality which like all sin as you pointed out, is of the devil.
Americans who make the homosexual lifestyle choice already enjoy the same privileges as normal Americans to get married. Those who engage in homosexual behaviour want special rights above and beyond the other 99% of Americans to accommodate their perverse behavioural choices.
@tyeporter I so gays can't have the right to love who they want? Really? WTF ever. I've been with my boyfriend for 11 years and If you're going to be in heaven the hell will be my home, cuz I hate bigots.
@tyeporter And by the way, we're not a religion, we're humans who want the same rights as you. People like you cause us to hate god and jesus, now aren't you proud of yourself?
@smurfboywv you are a religion and don't blame me for your hatred of God, you hated God long before you met me.
"People like me" simply remind you that God hates sin and that causes you to get angry at us - you'd much rather live in bliss and ignorance, believing your own religion that your gods love sin, hatred and perversion.
the difference between homosexuality and thieves is that homosexuality poses no serious threat towards our society. theft isnt beneficial, murder also is not beneficial for society. but homosexuality is neutral. in fact the only reason why you dont accept this is because someone told you to hate homosexuals.
and dont you dare use your religion as an excuse for this. you can make your own decisions and think for yourself.
@xilixang999 I can't find nything you said here to be correct, other than according to your religious beliefs of course.
Nobody "taught me to hate homosexuals" - not even God.
But I do hate sin and that includes that lifestyle choice, which hurts every person it touches, as all sin hurts - whether it be rape, murer, theft or whichever sin you insert.
God isn't "an excuse" as you put it.
But then again, I understand you do blame God for your lifestyle choice!
@tyeporter i dont blame anyone for my lifestyle choice. in fact i love my life, and dont bother what other people see as sin. my morality is not based on 2000 years old scripture, but still I have never killed and have never stolen anything or even anything like that.
we can all agree that theft, murder and rape are all immoral, harmfull and should be punished.
but what harm does it do when someone is a homosexual?
@tyeporter Im not forcing anybody to accept my view of morality (how did you come up with that anyway?). my only question was if homosexuality is going to harm anyone.
@xilixang999 You're forcing millions of kids to accept your morality as an acceptable lifestyle choice in the liberal religious indoctrination camps known as public schools.
On the tax payer's dime - so much for the First Ammendment, eh?
You're forcing adults to accept it or be punished by fines, lack of gov't support, etc via laws that inhibit American's Const. Rights in order to accommodate your special rights.
You're forcing your lifestyle choice on Americans - me.
@tyeporter im not american. so i dont have anything to do with your tax payers.
besides, liberalism is a political idea. it is not religious.
also, liberalism is the exact opposite of imposing your view on society. what liberal means is that you let the people do what they want to do as long as it does not harm anyone. in fact you are the one who wants to impose your view of sin on to society instead of accepting that some people dont hold your view of sin and disagree with you.
@xilixang999 Then you are guilty of your own hypocrisy - you've made a false "acquisation"
- Christianity is a faith
- islam, buddhism, liberalism, homosexuality are religions
And we can see from publications that liberalism (and many other sins) is a mental disorder.
The world classifies dang near anything that causes harm to another as a mental disorder - it's their way of shucking the blame and from taking responsibility.
Murder, alcoholism, adultery, homosexuality, rape, liberalsim, etc.
and its not an addiction its just who we are and its not hurting anyone rape murder etc those all hurt people idk how you are being hurt by the fact that people are gay and if it does hurt you so much then get a life and just ignore it
@calebheffernan it is a sinful behaviour and like all bad behaviour, one becomes addicted.
Everybody, including the sinner is hurt by the sin, homosexuality more than the rest in today's culture.
And one of the most hateful and hurtful acts is just what you said here: "...get a life and just ignore it!"
That's called "loving someone to death" - knowing they are doing something wrong but allowing them to do it becuase you pretend to love them, while they run straight into hell!
homosexuality is not a religion and stop thinking it is and the bible was not written by god but by man who probably misconstrued what he said i mean have you ever played the telephone game when you were in elementary school and by the end of the circle everything got jumbled up its the same idea notice that all the people who have stories about them in the bible died horrible deaths because they misspoke for god
@calebheffernan homosexuality is a religion, y'all even have gods who are homosexual and who created you that way.
The bible was inspired by God, and written correctly, not "miscontrued" because there is no interpretation between multiple writters, only translations between the original languages and current ones.
And no, not all of the people (only a few) died horible deaths because they represented God.
You really only know your homosexual/liberal religion, not about God don't you!?
@tyeporter its really hard to know anything about a being that is outside space and time (according to most christians today).
in fact if this is true then it is impossible to know anything about god. and making speculative claims like "the bible is the true word of god" or "being homosexual is a sin" are useless since you can not possibly know this or prove this.
@tyeporter "its been documented and recorded for us in the bible" this is another speculative claim. you have a personal bias towards this idea and that has nothing to do with proof. you believe it is true, but that does not make it true in any way.
muslims, hindus and christians are all the same, they each claim to know things they cant possibly know and say that their holy books are proof of it. in fact muslims and hindus are just as convinced as you that they are the one with the truth.
@tyeporter yes, indeed everybody thinks their version of the world is true. I dont believe in god. but this does not mean i make the claim that i know for certain that there is no god.
and yes, the bible can be used to know something about the past. but that does not mean that claims like the world is made in 7 days are not speculative.
evolution is not a religion and neither is atheism. evolution is science and atheism is the absence of religion.
@xilixang999 Science points to a young earth and has so far supported that "speculation" (as you'd call it) much more than the religion of evolution - which because science has firmly disproven, the continued faith in it has grown into a religion.
Atheism is also a religion, theirs is one of a denial of God, not an absence thereof.
As is homosexuality - with gods and mantras and rules and traditions.
One can be addicted to sex/fornication, alcohol, murder, rape, theft, lies, etc etc etc.
In this case, they are addicted to homosexuality to the point of justification of their sin - creating sciences, laws and religions to support their sin.
Sin is like candy, like a lays potato chip, "You can't eat just one!"
(youtu.be/QRzcjw9l6xo)
You can't just sin, "...you do it and it is done."
moron. Murderers and Pedophiles aren't looking for the right to get married because they already have that right. Pedophiles can legally get married and have kids. Ya...pedos have more rights then gays in the majority of the world.
@ChakatBlackstar So what you're saying is that Americans who chose to murder, rape, commit incest, pedophilia and homosexuality, all already have the same privileges as every other American: the privilege to get married?
When you talk about rights do you mean the right to the free expression and exercise of their religions?
Pedos, like most Americans have fewer rights than homosexuals.
Homosexual's special rights supress and inhibit American's rights.
@tyeporter I'm saying straight murderers, rapists, child molesters, all have the right to marry for whatever reason they like. Gay's who never have committed a crime however can't marry their loved ones. Does that seem right to you? Oh, and Homosexual's fight for EQUAL rights does not prevent anyone from free expression or exercising their religions. You're still allowed to express and exercise your beliefs, just like we have the right to express our disgust for your beliefs.
@ChakatBlackstar First, homosexual Americans already have the exact same rights and privileges as every other American, one of which is to get married. But they want special rights above and beyond what other Americans have, to accommodate their lifestyle choice. Do we grant murderers, pedos & rapists special rights for their lifestyles?
Homosexual's special rights inhibit & supress other American's Constitutional Rights.
If we do exercise our rights, it's called hate speech or discrimination.
@tyeporter Your first point is just outright wrong because homosexual americans do not have the same rights and privileges that heterosexuals do because heterosexuals get to marry people they love but homosexuals don't.
And no, gay rights do not inhibit & suppress other's rights. Mocking your opinion does not inhibit you. In fact if you bothered to read the constitution, specifically the 14th amendment section 1 you'd know that prohibiting homosexual marriage would actually be unconstitutional.
@ChakatBlackstar Caling God's Word, "Hate Speech" and passing laws restricting the expression & practice of one's religion simply because it conflicts with your lifestyle choice is against the constitution.
The 14th Ammend. has nothing whatsoever to do with behaviour, lifestyle choices or perversions.
We can all get married: special rights that accomodate your lifestyle choice whether it's murder, rape, theft or homosexuality makes us unequality as normal Americans will have fewer rights.
@tyeporter perhaps you forgot the "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" part of the amendment which means a marriage between a man and a man deserve equal protection as a marriage between a man and a woman.
And no we can't all get married and homosexuality, heterosexuality nor bisexuality is a choice. And please explain how same-gender marriage would take away the rights of heterosexuals. You can still preach your crap. We just don't have to accept it
@ChakatBlackstar "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" has nothing to do with marriage. First it's not a "right" to get married and second, all Americans already enjoy the same privilege to get married, homosexuals simply want extra and special rights that accommodate their lifestyle choice.
Should we also accommodate those who murder, steal, rape, or want to marry their farm animals?
That's their lifestyle choice, should we consider them as well?
@ChakatBlackstar "You can still preach your crap. We just don't have to accept it"
Not true: the extra/special rights homosexuals have allow them to freely express their homosexuality in public, in schools and at work but if we express our Christianity in those places, the homosexual will cry "hate speech" and cause the Christian to be fired, fined or otherwise punished.
The Christian can't remind folks that homosexuality is hate speech towards the Christian & God.
@tyeporter "The Christian can't remind folks that homosexuality is hate speech towards the Christian & God." Uh...what the hell are you talking about? Homosexuality is just how people are. The only reason there's any conflict between gays and Christians is because Christians won't let us have the same right they do to marry their loved ones.
And to address your other comment: "That's their lifestyle choice"- it is NOT a choice. Never has been, probably never will be.
@ChakatBlackstar - homosexuality is how they are because they chose that lifestyle.
There is conflict because homosexuals want special rights; they already can be married, they chose to marry another homosexual and they want special rights to accommodate that choice.
Those special rights cause the rest of Americans to have their rights suppressed and inhibited.
@tyeporter It is not a choice. It's been proven time and time again from the many epic failures of the so-called "ex-gay" ministries. Look up Beyond Ex-Gay if you don't believe me.
And no, it's not marriage inequality. In fact it in no way affects straight marriage or your right to hate and voice your hate of gays. Just don't be surprised when people and businesses react negatively to your comments. Banning speech is illegal, but calling it hate speech and discriminatory is perfectly legal.
@tyeporter I don't know what religion you're talking about, but I'm an agnostic so I'm not a member of any religion. There is no scientific evidence to support the belief that sexual orientation is a choice. And personally, if it was a choice I'd find both heteros and homos shallow.
And the legality of criticizing the bible is not proof of the homosexual agenda. God's word has been criticized since before Jesus was born. And of all people, Christians shouldn't be accusing anyone of hypocrisy.
@ChakatBlackstar Well, as a member of the homosexual religion, you already know there is no scientific evidence to support that homosexuality is not a choice.
Being born a black man or a woman is not a choice - engaging in homosexual behaviour is a choice like murder, rape, pedophilia, theft, etc.
@tyeporter It's not a religion. It's not like we worship at the alter of Elton John or something. And while there's no definitive proven cause yet, study after study shows that orientation is unchangeable, with any attempt to change it being mentally and physically harmful. Don't believe me? Check this: watch?v=aDiYeJ_bsQo
part 2> read part 1 first lol > so people dnt hav to accept ur life decisions like its normal. not meaning that they should bash u up or do anything like that. buh while u advertise gay lifestyle like this in the future more and more homos will appear and it will be social norm. they are infact converting the rest of people whether it is their intention or not. do sum research on the efects of gay families ad how the future will be with more gays
part 1> in islam homosexuality is a sin as well however it does not make you 'not a muslim'. i disagree with homo buh its not like i would treat one like an animal, i think wen ppl think of religious people who disagree with this they would act as if i would burn a homo like a witch or sumthin. free speech? i believe being a homo is a sin, changing ur religion to accomodate for something u want is not right. it means u are not a true believer.
your personal belief concerning marriage is an established law..gays aren't asking u to personally to accept or believe in what they do, only to support them in having the equal legal right to love and marry any other willing, competent, adult that they wish..but, u won't do that, because you'd rather see christian values as established law, rather than just another belief..u wanna control and maintain this country via your religion..u are a zealot. u aren't fooling anyone.
"And you already have the same privilege to marry."
you're ignorant..domestic partnerships and civil unions do not offer many of the same legal financial benefits as an official marriage. for this reason, there exists an inequality. the simple fact that gay unions aren't even called the same thing as heterosexual unions, causes an inequality, let alone the fact that they are deprived of many of the benefits of marriage.
@itzahazylife That's an empty arguement already proven wrong.
Civil unions already provide the same benefits and rights in the majority of states.
Besides, how can there be any inequality?
We don't consider pedophiles, rapists or murderers as having unequal rights because they cannot freely commit their perverse lifestyle choices without running into the brick wall of other's Constitutional Rights.
Don't go off on the tirade about the homosexual choice being the same as being born black!
blacks are different. they have dark skin..midgets are different. they are short. should we have a special name for when blacks get married?..should we have a special name for when midgets get married?..the point here is your implication of separation via a title..marriage is about a mutual bond between 2 people who love each other and wanna spend their lives together..it comes down to generality, despite superficial differences.
"I'm not Bass Ackwards by comparing sins, I'm agreeing with God."
it's not about god..god shouldn't have any inclusion in law..especially in america..and like i said,u wouldn't wanna see laws that are unchristian, but that is irrelevant..when it comes down to who should get married,religion should be exempt from the decision process..it should come down to if the people are competent, and mature..if they fit that general criteria, they should have the exact same right to marriage.
1 and 2 are false.. any educated person would realize, and your constant repeating of them only strengthens the gay rights cause. thanks!
you speak of "god" as if it is a universally accepted fact that it exists the way you think..and only that way. it clearly shows your ignorance, and is why your side will lose.
and you dont have to post my comment.. i only care if you see it.
and id absolutely bet a million dollars you are very closeted.
I went to christian religious schools from age 5 to age 21 :)
I never attended a public school in my life.
I just have enough sense to understand that the world is not so black and white and to think for myself instead, no matter how much religious brainwashing I have had in my life.
..and I think you're closeted because you come across as gay in your videos.
You went to a christian religious school, which is no different than a liberal religous/public school - both teach their liberal religions which deny God.
And you also admitted that you've accepted that wisdom and justification for the denial of God and the absolute truths of reality.
And of course you think I'm a pervert because that's always the answer to your lack of intelligent arguement.
You know homosexuality is hatred so you wish it on me.
Now you say my CHRISTIAN religious school is no different from a public school. I went to a school that teaches YOUR religion. We studied the BIBLE. What you choose to call the absolute truths of reality are completely subjective. YOU dont have an intelligent argument. I am WAY more educated than you are.
Homosexuality is loving someone of the same sex, which I do, happily.
I am so much happier than you :)
I love myself, my sexuality, my gorgeous boyfriend, and my family:)
@napavines You didn't go to a school that teaches The Christian Faith - you said you went to a Christian religious school. Probably catholic or some protestant religion, either way it is no different than any other religion: it teaches another God, different than the God found in the Bible.
Homosexaulity is a sin, it is hatred of God, your self & family.
You are living God's Word in Romans - let's start at 1:22
"For although they professed themselves to be [educated] they became fools.."
@tyeporter You are making up a difference that isn't there to justify you feeling superior. Sorry, not working. Same god, same bible, same Jesus.. You aren't fooling me.
I love myself and my family, and they love me too :) You are the only one here full of hate.
"For although they professed themselves to be [educated] they became fools.."
This is such a perfect quote to describe you. Thanks for putting it on here.
Jesus would be ashamed of you spewing judgement and hatred in his name.
its 100% your opinion that is is perverse and deviant. that is not a fact. it is your opinion. your gods mere existence is completely subjective and debatable. you use statements which you think are facts but they are opinions.
the only ones who can tell people if being gay is a choice is a gay person.
@napavines lol, denial of God does not make the absolute truth of Him any less reality.
You can deny gravity, but you'll still go splat once you jump.
It is 100% fact that taking a one way back door chute full of feces and forcing a sex organ the wrong way back up into it - is not only perverse and deviant but absolutely unnatural and an abomination.
Speak for yourself. You are assuming that just because you see your version of "god" as a fact, anyone disagreeing with you is just denying reality. How small minded.
That comparison to gravity is ridiculous. It just shows how irrational your argument is. Gravity is universally accepted. The existence of your specific idea of a christian "god" is absolutely not. Even different religions that believe in "god" have different ideas of what/who "god" is and what "god" wants.
@ 2:45 -- "their God, which is a lesser God that Jesus ..." Goodness, where do you come up with this, friend? Gay Christians such as me follow exactly the same Bible you do and revere the same Christ!
I cannot see what goes on in your heart, and the reverse is also true. So it's very strange to see you on YouTube suggesting that ...
(A) gays must worship a "different" God or Jesus than you
(B) there's some heirarchy of righteousness
Neither fit with what Christ taught us as his followers.
@benpatrickjohnson - if you worshipped The Creator, the same God as Christians then you would recognize the homosexual behavioural choice as sin and repent.
And yes, the Bible tells us how to judge what is in a man's heart.
It tells us the fruits of a heart with God in it and of a heart with sin in control.
A) Sinners who chose sin over God, worship a god and not the Creator, Jesus Christ.
That said, tongue in cheek, in all seriousness I FULLY SUPPORT your First Amendment right to speak your truth. And I apologize on behalf on anyone in the gay community who would attempt to silence you. We must tolerate all perspectives if we want our own heard. It's what our country is founded on, and I'd fight for YOUR rights any day of the week.
@benpatrickjohnson - and yet with every special right granted to the homosexual, one is taken away from the other 99% of America/Christians.
When they get special rights that say that quoting the Bible (God's Word) is hate speech, they infringe upon/take away our Constitutional right to both the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion.
But I appreciate sentiment, tongue in cheek as it were...
@tyeporter We're not asking for special rights. We're just asking for our place at the table, legally speaking. Your suggestion that we're seeking special rights by quoting the Bible is not fact-based.
And as far as your right to free speech and religious expression ... go for it! I support you fully as long as you're not inciting violence or discrimination toward a group of people, even if you view them as "sinners." Your having these positions is Constitutionally protected. Slander is not.
My friend, I'm a practicing Christian, an ordained minister, and gay. With respect and love, you don't know what you're talking about on this subject.
Your ignorance is so woefully glaring that, for any educated person watching these videos, the more you talk the more you undermine yourself. So I'm not the least upset -- PLEASE keep making these videos! The LGBT community would be hard pressed to create materials that better demonstrate the ignorance and poor arguments out there.
@benpatrickjohnson - in all you said above, nowhere did you say that you're a Christian, only that you play one in the real world.
Of course the homosexual & Christian communities would stand polar opposite of each other. Were one of the sinners repent of his lifestyle choice, he'd step over to the other side of the fence.
I appreciate your encouragement - I plan on making many more videos illustrating the hatred of God toward sin.
When Christians talk against homosexuals, we are accused of committing "hate crime". Is it a hate crime to call a liar a sinner, or a thief, or a murderer? Yes everyone sins, but the the key is forgiveness, and genuine repentance.
Now, I'm not a huge Christian and yes, you may consider that wrong but that's not what I came to talk about. What I want to know is, what does The Bible say of Bisexuality? In the eyes of God is it deserving of an equal/lesser/or higher punishment than homosexuality? If so, then why do you believe this or why do you think God would condemn this? I'm not trying to disprove your argument as it's very well spoken but, I just want some information from a Christian such as yourself.
and really, marriage being between a man and a woman isn't an inherent christian value, but in the christian religion, marriage is recognized as being between a man and a woman..so, since our current setup coincides with your religious views, u don't wanna see it changed..but, life is about progression..and any free minded person would see that gays deserve the right to a full marriage just like any one else..it's as simple as that.
@itzahazylife - and here you're pushing your religious beliefs on me.
Homosexuals already have the same privilege as normal Americans, the privilege to marry.
Homosexuals also already have the exact same Constitutional Rights as every other American in this nation.
What I don't want is to start issuing special rights that accommodate religious beliefs, that violates the Constitution in that the State is not supposed to inhibit or establish any religion.
since when is homosexuality a friggen religion?..u can't just call something a religion..there is a definition for the word religion..u are using the word very improperly..homosexuality is merely a way of life. sure, there is a movement centered around homosexuality due to the marriage issue, but it is by no means a religion.
"Not only is the homosexual lifestyle choice a behaviour but a religion one choses to be a participant in."
friggen ridiculous..sure, there are gay christians, and homosexual specific sects around the world, but homosexuality in GENERAL, is a religion to u?..if that's the case, u have went off the deep end.
u are simply wrong..many times civil unions do not offer the full amount of rights as normal marriage..and even if they did, how is it considered equality, if a gay union requires a different title than a heterosexual union?..why does it have to be called something different?..that in itself is inequality.
u are seriously comparing rapists, pedophiles, and murders to gays?..homosexuality between 2 people harms the innocent and unwilling?..you're ass backwards man.
@SocialDissimulation - besides, homosexuals (those who edify the lifestyle choice) believe that they were created that way by their gods - they believe their perverse behaviour is an expression of their love for one another. No homosexual wants you to define his perversion (what he calls "love") as a mental disorder!
The Bible calls it a bahavioral choice, like chosing to sleep with your best friend's wife, chosing to murder your best friend or stealing his wife, etc.
And if we were to fit sin into a defininition of "mental disorder" would that make it any less a sin?
Mental illness, behavior outside the norm unto which you have no control over. If it turned out that certain chemicals did make people homosexuals, would that absolve them of their sin?
So we're asserting that a mental illness doesn't remove culpability? Does this mean that every person can choose to be gay, and is attracted to the same sex, just doesn't act upon those urges? I mean, if it's solely a choice.
Does this mean that every person is inherently attracted to the same sex? I'm asking these questions because there are such huge gaps in your logic. The reason they have an insanity clause is because sometimes people are mentally handicapped and don't understand the implications of their actions.
Ubiquitous eternal damnation seems a bit much, if it's an inherent quality.
Actually that would be your logic, since you're saying homosexuality is 100% choice. Now, as long as homosexuals ask for forgiveness then it's okay? Right?
So every person does it, only a few people can ask for it, and only a few people are chosen? I mean, I'm not understanding this.
Homosexuals can ask for forgiveness, only if they abstain from their lifestyle because it's a sin.
Everyone sins, but but can be forgiven and walk amongst Jesus. It seems like a bigoted exclusion of homosexuals, which I'm all for since it's as unnatural and counterproductive a lifestyle as can be, but call a spade a spade.
Well here's the problem, every life has sin so therefore every lifestyle has sin. You can be a liar and be a man of god, but you can't be a homosexual and be a man of god? Somehow that's more condemnable? I just don't see the logic in trying to stop all sin when you can't and damning them otherwise. How can you get to heaven if your life isn't sin free? Just ask for forgiveness.
I'm asking you plainly if there is such thing as a sin free Christian. You say no. I say, so as long as someone asks for forgiveness they can live any life, any way. You say they can't, I ask where does one draw the line for heaven and hell? Accepting Jesus seems to be the ubiquitous factor, which draws me to my next question: Can a homosexual make it into heaven?
It is not a sin to love someone. This video is of the devil. We do not want special rights, we want equal rights.
smurfboywv 4 months ago
@smurfboywv You are exactly right, love is not a sin.
But we're not talking about love, we're talking about the sin of homosexuality which like all sin as you pointed out, is of the devil.
Americans who make the homosexual lifestyle choice already enjoy the same privileges as normal Americans to get married. Those who engage in homosexual behaviour want special rights above and beyond the other 99% of Americans to accommodate their perverse behavioural choices.
tyeporter 4 months ago
@tyeporter I so gays can't have the right to love who they want? Really? WTF ever. I've been with my boyfriend for 11 years and If you're going to be in heaven the hell will be my home, cuz I hate bigots.
smurfboywv 4 months ago
@smurfboywv anybody can love whomever they desire, whether normal, homosexual, whatever.
You hate bigots, then you obviously hate God since your definition of a bigot is one who hates sin.
Rejoicing in your hatred, rejoicing in your sin is sad and disappointing.
tyeporter 4 months ago
@tyeporter And by the way, we're not a religion, we're humans who want the same rights as you. People like you cause us to hate god and jesus, now aren't you proud of yourself?
smurfboywv 4 months ago
@smurfboywv you are a religion and don't blame me for your hatred of God, you hated God long before you met me.
"People like me" simply remind you that God hates sin and that causes you to get angry at us - you'd much rather live in bliss and ignorance, believing your own religion that your gods love sin, hatred and perversion.
tyeporter 4 months ago
the difference between homosexuality and thieves is that homosexuality poses no serious threat towards our society. theft isnt beneficial, murder also is not beneficial for society. but homosexuality is neutral. in fact the only reason why you dont accept this is because someone told you to hate homosexuals.
and dont you dare use your religion as an excuse for this. you can make your own decisions and think for yourself.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 I can't find nything you said here to be correct, other than according to your religious beliefs of course.
Nobody "taught me to hate homosexuals" - not even God.
But I do hate sin and that includes that lifestyle choice, which hurts every person it touches, as all sin hurts - whether it be rape, murer, theft or whichever sin you insert.
God isn't "an excuse" as you put it.
But then again, I understand you do blame God for your lifestyle choice!
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter i dont blame anyone for my lifestyle choice. in fact i love my life, and dont bother what other people see as sin. my morality is not based on 2000 years old scripture, but still I have never killed and have never stolen anything or even anything like that.
we can all agree that theft, murder and rape are all immoral, harmfull and should be punished.
but what harm does it do when someone is a homosexual?
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 I'm happy to see that you agree that it is a lifestyle choice.
And as you said, you're morality is not the same as other's morals so what those who love God find immoral you may not.
You don't believe that all sins are harmful, only a few such as murder, theft and rape for example.
On that note, you're pushing your morality (or what we see as a lack thereof) on the other 99% of us who don't live your lifestyle choice.
Forcing us to accept and tolerate what we find immoral.
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter Im not forcing anybody to accept my view of morality (how did you come up with that anyway?). my only question was if homosexuality is going to harm anyone.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 You're forcing millions of kids to accept your morality as an acceptable lifestyle choice in the liberal religious indoctrination camps known as public schools.
On the tax payer's dime - so much for the First Ammendment, eh?
You're forcing adults to accept it or be punished by fines, lack of gov't support, etc via laws that inhibit American's Const. Rights in order to accommodate your special rights.
You're forcing your lifestyle choice on Americans - me.
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter im not american. so i dont have anything to do with your tax payers.
besides, liberalism is a political idea. it is not religious.
also, liberalism is the exact opposite of imposing your view on society. what liberal means is that you let the people do what they want to do as long as it does not harm anyone. in fact you are the one who wants to impose your view of sin on to society instead of accepting that some people dont hold your view of sin and disagree with you.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 Liberalism is both a mental disorder AND a religius belief.
Liberalism here in the States forces into law their religious beliefs and forces those who disagree to abide by the liberal beliefs.
They force their morality (or lack thereof) onto us and force our govt to pay for their religious indoctrination camps.
Here in the States, there is nothing "let people do what they want as long as it does not harm anyone" about liberalism - it's deathly harmful.
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter let me explain something to you that you probably knew already.
- christianity, islam and buddhism are religions.
- liberalism and conservatism are political ideas.
- schizofrenia is an example of a mental disorder.
as we can see from these factual statements. liberalism is not a religion nor is it a mental disorder.
honostly i dont mind that you disagree with me on some issues. but making false acquisations is another thing.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 Then you are guilty of your own hypocrisy - you've made a false "acquisation"
- Christianity is a faith
- islam, buddhism, liberalism, homosexuality are religions
And we can see from publications that liberalism (and many other sins) is a mental disorder.
The world classifies dang near anything that causes harm to another as a mental disorder - it's their way of shucking the blame and from taking responsibility.
Murder, alcoholism, adultery, homosexuality, rape, liberalsim, etc.
tyeporter 5 months ago
and its not an addiction its just who we are and its not hurting anyone rape murder etc those all hurt people idk how you are being hurt by the fact that people are gay and if it does hurt you so much then get a life and just ignore it
calebheffernan 5 months ago
@calebheffernan it is a sinful behaviour and like all bad behaviour, one becomes addicted.
Everybody, including the sinner is hurt by the sin, homosexuality more than the rest in today's culture.
And one of the most hateful and hurtful acts is just what you said here: "...get a life and just ignore it!"
That's called "loving someone to death" - knowing they are doing something wrong but allowing them to do it becuase you pretend to love them, while they run straight into hell!
tyeporter 5 months ago
homosexuality is not a religion and stop thinking it is and the bible was not written by god but by man who probably misconstrued what he said i mean have you ever played the telephone game when you were in elementary school and by the end of the circle everything got jumbled up its the same idea notice that all the people who have stories about them in the bible died horrible deaths because they misspoke for god
calebheffernan 5 months ago
@calebheffernan homosexuality is a religion, y'all even have gods who are homosexual and who created you that way.
The bible was inspired by God, and written correctly, not "miscontrued" because there is no interpretation between multiple writters, only translations between the original languages and current ones.
And no, not all of the people (only a few) died horible deaths because they represented God.
You really only know your homosexual/liberal religion, not about God don't you!?
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter its really hard to know anything about a being that is outside space and time (according to most christians today).
in fact if this is true then it is impossible to know anything about god. and making speculative claims like "the bible is the true word of god" or "being homosexual is a sin" are useless since you can not possibly know this or prove this.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 I can know and prove it.
It's been documented and recorded for us in The Bible.
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter "its been documented and recorded for us in the bible" this is another speculative claim. you have a personal bias towards this idea and that has nothing to do with proof. you believe it is true, but that does not make it true in any way.
muslims, hindus and christians are all the same, they each claim to know things they cant possibly know and say that their holy books are proof of it. in fact muslims and hindus are just as convinced as you that they are the one with the truth.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 Everybody believes their "proof" is absolute and difinitive.
All religions from atheism & evolutionism to homosexuality & catholocism believe their "truth" is the only truth.
The Christian Faith believes the Word God gave us is also the truth.
The Bible is an history book that science has and continues to use to find historical places, peoples and timelines.
It's a record of that which people kept.
Nothing "speculative" about it.
tyeporter 5 months ago
@tyeporter yes, indeed everybody thinks their version of the world is true. I dont believe in god. but this does not mean i make the claim that i know for certain that there is no god.
and yes, the bible can be used to know something about the past. but that does not mean that claims like the world is made in 7 days are not speculative.
evolution is not a religion and neither is atheism. evolution is science and atheism is the absence of religion.
xilixang999 5 months ago
@xilixang999 Science points to a young earth and has so far supported that "speculation" (as you'd call it) much more than the religion of evolution - which because science has firmly disproven, the continued faith in it has grown into a religion.
Atheism is also a religion, theirs is one of a denial of God, not an absence thereof.
As is homosexuality - with gods and mantras and rules and traditions.
These all fit the definition perfectly.
tyeporter 5 months ago
homosexuality is a constant sin you pratice. others sins you do it and it is done.
TheShootTruth10 6 months ago
@TheShootTruth10 like all sin, it is an addiction.
One can be addicted to sex/fornication, alcohol, murder, rape, theft, lies, etc etc etc.
In this case, they are addicted to homosexuality to the point of justification of their sin - creating sciences, laws and religions to support their sin.
Sin is like candy, like a lays potato chip, "You can't eat just one!"
(youtu.be/QRzcjw9l6xo)
You can't just sin, "...you do it and it is done."
You know that.
tyeporter 6 months ago
moron. Murderers and Pedophiles aren't looking for the right to get married because they already have that right. Pedophiles can legally get married and have kids. Ya...pedos have more rights then gays in the majority of the world.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar So what you're saying is that Americans who chose to murder, rape, commit incest, pedophilia and homosexuality, all already have the same privileges as every other American: the privilege to get married?
When you talk about rights do you mean the right to the free expression and exercise of their religions?
Pedos, like most Americans have fewer rights than homosexuals.
Homosexual's special rights supress and inhibit American's rights.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter I'm saying straight murderers, rapists, child molesters, all have the right to marry for whatever reason they like. Gay's who never have committed a crime however can't marry their loved ones. Does that seem right to you? Oh, and Homosexual's fight for EQUAL rights does not prevent anyone from free expression or exercising their religions. You're still allowed to express and exercise your beliefs, just like we have the right to express our disgust for your beliefs.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar First, homosexual Americans already have the exact same rights and privileges as every other American, one of which is to get married. But they want special rights above and beyond what other Americans have, to accommodate their lifestyle choice. Do we grant murderers, pedos & rapists special rights for their lifestyles?
Homosexual's special rights inhibit & supress other American's Constitutional Rights.
If we do exercise our rights, it's called hate speech or discrimination.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter Your first point is just outright wrong because homosexual americans do not have the same rights and privileges that heterosexuals do because heterosexuals get to marry people they love but homosexuals don't.
And no, gay rights do not inhibit & suppress other's rights. Mocking your opinion does not inhibit you. In fact if you bothered to read the constitution, specifically the 14th amendment section 1 you'd know that prohibiting homosexual marriage would actually be unconstitutional.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar Caling God's Word, "Hate Speech" and passing laws restricting the expression & practice of one's religion simply because it conflicts with your lifestyle choice is against the constitution.
The 14th Ammend. has nothing whatsoever to do with behaviour, lifestyle choices or perversions.
We can all get married: special rights that accomodate your lifestyle choice whether it's murder, rape, theft or homosexuality makes us unequality as normal Americans will have fewer rights.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter perhaps you forgot the "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" part of the amendment which means a marriage between a man and a man deserve equal protection as a marriage between a man and a woman.
And no we can't all get married and homosexuality, heterosexuality nor bisexuality is a choice. And please explain how same-gender marriage would take away the rights of heterosexuals. You can still preach your crap. We just don't have to accept it
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws" has nothing to do with marriage. First it's not a "right" to get married and second, all Americans already enjoy the same privilege to get married, homosexuals simply want extra and special rights that accommodate their lifestyle choice.
Should we also accommodate those who murder, steal, rape, or want to marry their farm animals?
That's their lifestyle choice, should we consider them as well?
tyeporter 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar "You can still preach your crap. We just don't have to accept it"
Not true: the extra/special rights homosexuals have allow them to freely express their homosexuality in public, in schools and at work but if we express our Christianity in those places, the homosexual will cry "hate speech" and cause the Christian to be fired, fined or otherwise punished.
The Christian can't remind folks that homosexuality is hate speech towards the Christian & God.
Their rights are supressed.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter "The Christian can't remind folks that homosexuality is hate speech towards the Christian & God." Uh...what the hell are you talking about? Homosexuality is just how people are. The only reason there's any conflict between gays and Christians is because Christians won't let us have the same right they do to marry their loved ones.
And to address your other comment: "That's their lifestyle choice"- it is NOT a choice. Never has been, probably never will be.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar - homosexuality is how they are because they chose that lifestyle.
There is conflict because homosexuals want special rights; they already can be married, they chose to marry another homosexual and they want special rights to accommodate that choice.
Those special rights cause the rest of Americans to have their rights suppressed and inhibited.
That's unconstitutional.
Homosexuals want "Marriage Inequality"
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter It is not a choice. It's been proven time and time again from the many epic failures of the so-called "ex-gay" ministries. Look up Beyond Ex-Gay if you don't believe me.
And no, it's not marriage inequality. In fact it in no way affects straight marriage or your right to hate and voice your hate of gays. Just don't be surprised when people and businesses react negatively to your comments. Banning speech is illegal, but calling it hate speech and discriminatory is perfectly legal.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar Stop lying.
I know that's one of the tennents of your religion but around here (out in the real world) we know you're lying.
We know homosexuality is a choice, just like murder, rape, pedophilia, theft, etc.
We know Christians don't hate homosexuals, even though you'd like us to believe otherwise.
Calling God's Word hate speech but protecting a homosexual's right to blaspheme God is hateful and hypocritical.
Because it is "legal" is proof of the homosexual agenda.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter I don't know what religion you're talking about, but I'm an agnostic so I'm not a member of any religion. There is no scientific evidence to support the belief that sexual orientation is a choice. And personally, if it was a choice I'd find both heteros and homos shallow.
And the legality of criticizing the bible is not proof of the homosexual agenda. God's word has been criticized since before Jesus was born. And of all people, Christians shouldn't be accusing anyone of hypocrisy.
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar Well, as a member of the homosexual religion, you already know there is no scientific evidence to support that homosexuality is not a choice.
Being born a black man or a woman is not a choice - engaging in homosexual behaviour is a choice like murder, rape, pedophilia, theft, etc.
tyeporter 7 months ago
@tyeporter It's not a religion. It's not like we worship at the alter of Elton John or something. And while there's no definitive proven cause yet, study after study shows that orientation is unchangeable, with any attempt to change it being mentally and physically harmful. Don't believe me? Check this: watch?v=aDiYeJ_bsQo
ChakatBlackstar 7 months ago
@ChakatBlackstar Religious propaganda.
It is a religion: you have gods who created you that way, mantras, traditions, rules, laws, hate - all specific to homosexuality.
All faery tales.
In reality it is known to simply be a behaviour.
One walks into a store & decides he wants to steal rather than pay for an item.
One decides to rape a gal rather than woo her.
One decides to murder, to adulter, to be a homosexual, etc etc etc.
Y'all just want to think you don't have a choice.
But you do.
tyeporter 7 months ago
part 3 > read other parts first > this however is nothing compared to the attitudes of youth thesedays. btw im 16 lol
aaronharun 8 months ago
part 2> read part 1 first lol > so people dnt hav to accept ur life decisions like its normal. not meaning that they should bash u up or do anything like that. buh while u advertise gay lifestyle like this in the future more and more homos will appear and it will be social norm. they are infact converting the rest of people whether it is their intention or not. do sum research on the efects of gay families ad how the future will be with more gays
aaronharun 8 months ago
part 1> in islam homosexuality is a sin as well however it does not make you 'not a muslim'. i disagree with homo buh its not like i would treat one like an animal, i think wen ppl think of religious people who disagree with this they would act as if i would burn a homo like a witch or sumthin. free speech? i believe being a homo is a sin, changing ur religion to accomodate for something u want is not right. it means u are not a true believer.
aaronharun 8 months ago
WELL spoken!
XiaoFury 8 months ago
This video is spot on!
YhwhKhai 8 months ago
There are pedophiles trying to get special rights, and they use the same arguments (victim/identity politics) the homosexual activists use
funk7000 8 months ago
your personal belief concerning marriage is an established law..gays aren't asking u to personally to accept or believe in what they do, only to support them in having the equal legal right to love and marry any other willing, competent, adult that they wish..but, u won't do that, because you'd rather see christian values as established law, rather than just another belief..u wanna control and maintain this country via your religion..u are a zealot. u aren't fooling anyone.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife Homosexuals already have the exact same rights as every other normal American in this nation.
And you already have the same privilege to marry.
And yes, personally I'd rather see God's laws supported and not the homosexual's religious belief's instituted.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
"And you already have the same privilege to marry."
you're ignorant..domestic partnerships and civil unions do not offer many of the same legal financial benefits as an official marriage. for this reason, there exists an inequality. the simple fact that gay unions aren't even called the same thing as heterosexual unions, causes an inequality, let alone the fact that they are deprived of many of the benefits of marriage.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife That's an empty arguement already proven wrong.
Civil unions already provide the same benefits and rights in the majority of states.
Besides, how can there be any inequality?
We don't consider pedophiles, rapists or murderers as having unequal rights because they cannot freely commit their perverse lifestyle choices without running into the brick wall of other's Constitutional Rights.
Don't go off on the tirade about the homosexual choice being the same as being born black!
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
blacks are different. they have dark skin..midgets are different. they are short. should we have a special name for when blacks get married?..should we have a special name for when midgets get married?..the point here is your implication of separation via a title..marriage is about a mutual bond between 2 people who love each other and wanna spend their lives together..it comes down to generality, despite superficial differences.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife Blacks were created black, there is neither anything wrong nor perverse about that and their skin colour is not a choice.
They are a creation of the Lord and like every other American, they can marry whether they chose to marry within their skin colour...
Marriage is about a (variety of reasons) union between a man and a woman, regardless of race or colour.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
"I'm not Bass Ackwards by comparing sins, I'm agreeing with God."
it's not about god..god shouldn't have any inclusion in law..especially in america..and like i said,u wouldn't wanna see laws that are unchristian, but that is irrelevant..when it comes down to who should get married,religion should be exempt from the decision process..it should come down to if the people are competent, and mature..if they fit that general criteria, they should have the exact same right to marriage.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife God shouldn't have any influence on our laws?
Well then, that explains your desire to legalize a perverse and deviant lifestyle choice - a sin!
But you've gone on to contradict yourself.
Legalizing homosexual marriage will force Christian Pastors to engage in perverse weddings in their churches, imposed by the State.
Just as homosexuality has imposed itself (via the State) on my freedom of Religion and Speech.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
what bullshit..a church doesn't have to marry anyone it doesn't wanna marry..sure, gays may fight that, but in the end, the church would win.
homosexuality hasn't imposed shit on u..u aren't allowed to speak out against homosexuality or practice your religion?..is that what you're saying?
and no, god SHOULDN'T have any influence on our laws..have u had your head up your ass, or have u not heard of separation of church and state?
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife
1) "Seperation of Church & State" is propaganda created by liberals and cannot be found in the Constitution.
2) Specials Rights for the homosexual religion/lifestyle choice inhibits normal American's rights/freedoms.
3) Yes, the State imposes the homosexual religion on public schools, churches, radio, business, etc.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
1 and 2 are false.. any educated person would realize, and your constant repeating of them only strengthens the gay rights cause. thanks!
you speak of "god" as if it is a universally accepted fact that it exists the way you think..and only that way. it clearly shows your ignorance, and is why your side will lose.
and you dont have to post my comment.. i only care if you see it.
and id absolutely bet a million dollars you are very closeted.
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines of course I'm closeted, because that's always the answer, right?
I hate sin therefore I must be a homo like you?
Wish that kinda hatred on all your fellow mankind do you?
1 & 2 are only "wrong" if the education about which you speak is the liberal religious indoctrination you've received in public schools.
The universe not only "accepts" the reality of God but screams His name for even perverts to hear - which is why yuo so vehemently deny Him.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
Public schools huh?
I went to christian religious schools from age 5 to age 21 :)
I never attended a public school in my life.
I just have enough sense to understand that the world is not so black and white and to think for myself instead, no matter how much religious brainwashing I have had in my life.
..and I think you're closeted because you come across as gay in your videos.
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines you said it yourself:
You went to a christian religious school, which is no different than a liberal religous/public school - both teach their liberal religions which deny God.
And you also admitted that you've accepted that wisdom and justification for the denial of God and the absolute truths of reality.
And of course you think I'm a pervert because that's always the answer to your lack of intelligent arguement.
You know homosexuality is hatred so you wish it on me.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
Now you say my CHRISTIAN religious school is no different from a public school. I went to a school that teaches YOUR religion. We studied the BIBLE. What you choose to call the absolute truths of reality are completely subjective. YOU dont have an intelligent argument. I am WAY more educated than you are.
Homosexuality is loving someone of the same sex, which I do, happily.
I am so much happier than you :)
I love myself, my sexuality, my gorgeous boyfriend, and my family:)
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines You didn't go to a school that teaches The Christian Faith - you said you went to a Christian religious school. Probably catholic or some protestant religion, either way it is no different than any other religion: it teaches another God, different than the God found in the Bible.
Homosexaulity is a sin, it is hatred of God, your self & family.
You are living God's Word in Romans - let's start at 1:22
"For although they professed themselves to be [educated] they became fools.."
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter You are making up a difference that isn't there to justify you feeling superior. Sorry, not working. Same god, same bible, same Jesus.. You aren't fooling me.
I love myself and my family, and they love me too :) You are the only one here full of hate.
"For although they professed themselves to be [educated] they became fools.."
This is such a perfect quote to describe you. Thanks for putting it on here.
Jesus would be ashamed of you spewing judgement and hatred in his name.
Sad man
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines Nope, you just proved He's not the same God nor is it the same Bible.
God hates sin and named homosexuality as a sin.
God also tells us to judge.
Who are you to say you are better than God?
To say you know better than God?
Sin is the opposite of love, you can't be living a sinful lifestyle choice and call it love.
Well, you can but you'd be contradicting God and calling Him a liar!
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
its 100% your opinion that is is perverse and deviant. that is not a fact. it is your opinion. your gods mere existence is completely subjective and debatable. you use statements which you think are facts but they are opinions.
the only ones who can tell people if being gay is a choice is a gay person.
you make it too easy.
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines lol, denial of God does not make the absolute truth of Him any less reality.
You can deny gravity, but you'll still go splat once you jump.
It is 100% fact that taking a one way back door chute full of feces and forcing a sex organ the wrong way back up into it - is not only perverse and deviant but absolutely unnatural and an abomination.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
Speak for yourself. You are assuming that just because you see your version of "god" as a fact, anyone disagreeing with you is just denying reality. How small minded.
That comparison to gravity is ridiculous. It just shows how irrational your argument is. Gravity is universally accepted. The existence of your specific idea of a christian "god" is absolutely not. Even different religions that believe in "god" have different ideas of what/who "god" is and what "god" wants.
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines all religions disagree with God and profess their different ideas.
I'm not small minded, I'm narrowminded.
Narrowly focused on the truth of God while tossing aside religious beliefs such as yours: homosexuals.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
... and just because you say something is a "100% fact" doesn't mean it is..
again... you are passing off your religious based opinions as facts.
napavines 1 year ago
@napavines - saying you deny God, that's a religious mantra, the mantra of the atheist religion.
Etc etc etc...
Back on the topic, the homosexual religion, which wants special rights to accommodate their religous beliefs...
That's passing off their religous beliefs as fact and forcing them on the other 99% of us Americans who are normal.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@ 2:45 -- "their God, which is a lesser God that Jesus ..." Goodness, where do you come up with this, friend? Gay Christians such as me follow exactly the same Bible you do and revere the same Christ!
I cannot see what goes on in your heart, and the reverse is also true. So it's very strange to see you on YouTube suggesting that ...
(A) gays must worship a "different" God or Jesus than you
(B) there's some heirarchy of righteousness
Neither fit with what Christ taught us as his followers.
benpatrickjohnson 1 year ago
@benpatrickjohnson - if you worshipped The Creator, the same God as Christians then you would recognize the homosexual behavioural choice as sin and repent.
And yes, the Bible tells us how to judge what is in a man's heart.
It tells us the fruits of a heart with God in it and of a heart with sin in control.
A) Sinners who chose sin over God, worship a god and not the Creator, Jesus Christ.
B) None are righteous, not one.
tyeporter 1 year ago
That said, tongue in cheek, in all seriousness I FULLY SUPPORT your First Amendment right to speak your truth. And I apologize on behalf on anyone in the gay community who would attempt to silence you. We must tolerate all perspectives if we want our own heard. It's what our country is founded on, and I'd fight for YOUR rights any day of the week.
Be well.
benpatrickjohnson 1 year ago
@benpatrickjohnson - and yet with every special right granted to the homosexual, one is taken away from the other 99% of America/Christians.
When they get special rights that say that quoting the Bible (God's Word) is hate speech, they infringe upon/take away our Constitutional right to both the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion.
But I appreciate sentiment, tongue in cheek as it were...
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter We're not asking for special rights. We're just asking for our place at the table, legally speaking. Your suggestion that we're seeking special rights by quoting the Bible is not fact-based.
And as far as your right to free speech and religious expression ... go for it! I support you fully as long as you're not inciting violence or discrimination toward a group of people, even if you view them as "sinners." Your having these positions is Constitutionally protected. Slander is not.
benpatrickjohnson 1 year ago
@benpatrickjohnson Every American already has the same rights.
You're asking for special rights that inhibit the rights of the other 99% of Americans.
You're also advocating violence, discrimination and hate.
Sin does this, you know...
tyeporter 1 year ago
My friend, I'm a practicing Christian, an ordained minister, and gay. With respect and love, you don't know what you're talking about on this subject.
Your ignorance is so woefully glaring that, for any educated person watching these videos, the more you talk the more you undermine yourself. So I'm not the least upset -- PLEASE keep making these videos! The LGBT community would be hard pressed to create materials that better demonstrate the ignorance and poor arguments out there.
Take care!
benpatrickjohnson 1 year ago
@benpatrickjohnson - in all you said above, nowhere did you say that you're a Christian, only that you play one in the real world.
Of course the homosexual & Christian communities would stand polar opposite of each other. Were one of the sinners repent of his lifestyle choice, he'd step over to the other side of the fence.
I appreciate your encouragement - I plan on making many more videos illustrating the hatred of God toward sin.
tyeporter 1 year ago
When Christians talk against homosexuals, we are accused of committing "hate crime". Is it a hate crime to call a liar a sinner, or a thief, or a murderer? Yes everyone sins, but the the key is forgiveness, and genuine repentance.
BenjaminWirtz 1 year ago
Now, I'm not a huge Christian and yes, you may consider that wrong but that's not what I came to talk about. What I want to know is, what does The Bible say of Bisexuality? In the eyes of God is it deserving of an equal/lesser/or higher punishment than homosexuality? If so, then why do you believe this or why do you think God would condemn this? I'm not trying to disprove your argument as it's very well spoken but, I just want some information from a Christian such as yourself.
JRV95 1 year ago
@JRV95 homosexual behaviour is a sin
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
and really, marriage being between a man and a woman isn't an inherent christian value, but in the christian religion, marriage is recognized as being between a man and a woman..so, since our current setup coincides with your religious views, u don't wanna see it changed..but, life is about progression..and any free minded person would see that gays deserve the right to a full marriage just like any one else..it's as simple as that.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife - and here you're pushing your religious beliefs on me.
Homosexuals already have the same privilege as normal Americans, the privilege to marry.
Homosexuals also already have the exact same Constitutional Rights as every other American in this nation.
What I don't want is to start issuing special rights that accommodate religious beliefs, that violates the Constitution in that the State is not supposed to inhibit or establish any religion.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
since when is homosexuality a friggen religion?..u can't just call something a religion..there is a definition for the word religion..u are using the word very improperly..homosexuality is merely a way of life. sure, there is a movement centered around homosexuality due to the marriage issue, but it is by no means a religion.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife homosexuality has created their own gods, beliefs and morals.
They've created churches and gods around their lifestyle choices and they even have their own creation stories.
In fact, many say their gods are homosexual as well!
Their beliefs are based upon faith and no science or fact & reality.
Not only is the homosexual lifestyle choice a behaviour but a religion one choses to be a participant in.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
"Not only is the homosexual lifestyle choice a behaviour but a religion one choses to be a participant in."
friggen ridiculous..sure, there are gay christians, and homosexual specific sects around the world, but homosexuality in GENERAL, is a religion to u?..if that's the case, u have went off the deep end.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife There are homosexuals who call themselves "Christians' but that's a whole seperate religious belief from the Biblical Christianity.
Homosexuality, specifically is a behavioural choice and in general is a religious belief.
I'm not participating in it - it's not me whose gone off the deep end!
tyeporter 1 year ago
@tyeporter
u are simply wrong..many times civil unions do not offer the full amount of rights as normal marriage..and even if they did, how is it considered equality, if a gay union requires a different title than a heterosexual union?..why does it have to be called something different?..that in itself is inequality.
u are seriously comparing rapists, pedophiles, and murders to gays?..homosexuality between 2 people harms the innocent and unwilling?..you're ass backwards man.
itzahazylife 1 year ago
@itzahazylife Are you saying it is unequal to call a person a man or a woman depending on their sex?
Homosexuals and straight/normal people are different and their "unions" are as well.
I'm not Bass Ackwards by comparing sins, I'm agreeing with God.
You're insulting God when you compare race with a behavioural choice.
tyeporter 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation - besides, homosexuals (those who edify the lifestyle choice) believe that they were created that way by their gods - they believe their perverse behaviour is an expression of their love for one another. No homosexual wants you to define his perversion (what he calls "love") as a mental disorder!
tyeporter 1 year ago
What if homosexuality was a mental disorder, would it make any difference?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation - define mental disorder.
The Bible calls it a bahavioral choice, like chosing to sleep with your best friend's wife, chosing to murder your best friend or stealing his wife, etc.
And if we were to fit sin into a defininition of "mental disorder" would that make it any less a sin?
tyeporter 1 year ago
Mental illness, behavior outside the norm unto which you have no control over. If it turned out that certain chemicals did make people homosexuals, would that absolve them of their sin?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation - does any justification of any sin absolve oneself in the eyes of God?
If that were the case, God would not have needed to send His Son.
He would have instead just given us a list of "justifications" in order to avoid the consequences of our sins.
Kinda like finding a legal loophole (insanity) to avoid responsibility for murder.
tyeporter 1 year ago
So we're asserting that a mental illness doesn't remove culpability? Does this mean that every person can choose to be gay, and is attracted to the same sex, just doesn't act upon those urges? I mean, if it's solely a choice.
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation You and I are not asserting anything.
God tells us it is a choice.
That one choses whether to sin.
tyeporter 1 year ago
Does this mean that every person is inherently attracted to the same sex? I'm asking these questions because there are such huge gaps in your logic. The reason they have an insanity clause is because sometimes people are mentally handicapped and don't understand the implications of their actions.
Ubiquitous eternal damnation seems a bit much, if it's an inherent quality.
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation by your logic, everybody is inherently a murderer, adulterer, pedophile, rapist, thief, etc...
If that the point you're trying to make?
It has nothing to do with "my logic" - it is an absolute of God.
If our "logic" doesn't seem to square with God's absolutes then we have a problem with our own logic, not God's Word.
Sin is a choice; one choses to sin, whether it's homosexuality, murder or any other sin - it's a choice.
tyeporter 1 year ago
Actually that would be your logic, since you're saying homosexuality is 100% choice. Now, as long as homosexuals ask for forgiveness then it's okay? Right?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation - actaully it's not my logic.
God says that homosexuality (any sin) is a choice.
Does the homosexual agree with God that his behaviour is a sin?
Does he repent of that behaviour?
Does he want the forgiveness and out of the sinful lifestyle choice?
It's always a sin and never "ok".
tyeporter 1 year ago
Is it possible to ever leave sin asunder and be human at the same time? Are you free of sin?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation nobody is "free" from sin.
Although some are saved from it's consequence.
tyeporter 1 year ago
So every person does it, only a few people can ask for it, and only a few people are chosen? I mean, I'm not understanding this.
Homosexuals can ask for forgiveness, only if they abstain from their lifestyle because it's a sin.
Everyone sins, but but can be forgiven and walk amongst Jesus. It seems like a bigoted exclusion of homosexuals, which I'm all for since it's as unnatural and counterproductive a lifestyle as can be, but call a spade a spade.
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation we are calling a "spade a spade"
Sin is sin, regardless of the name you call it.
All sin needs to be repented of, not just homosexuality.
All sin is counterproductive and unnatural.
We're calling sin a sin (or in your words - a spade a spade)
tyeporter 1 year ago
Well here's the problem, every life has sin so therefore every lifestyle has sin. You can be a liar and be a man of god, but you can't be a homosexual and be a man of god? Somehow that's more condemnable? I just don't see the logic in trying to stop all sin when you can't and damning them otherwise. How can you get to heaven if your life isn't sin free? Just ask for forgiveness.
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation That's only a problem that you've created.
You cannot stick a identifier in front of the name, "Christian."
In other words, there is no such things as a, "[Sin] Christian"
The logic you're trying to force upon the Christian Faith is not the Christian Faith's logic but your own.
tyeporter 1 year ago
I'm asking you plainly if there is such thing as a sin free Christian. You say no. I say, so as long as someone asks for forgiveness they can live any life, any way. You say they can't, I ask where does one draw the line for heaven and hell? Accepting Jesus seems to be the ubiquitous factor, which draws me to my next question: Can a homosexual make it into heaven?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation I'll answer you plainly, "Yes."
One who denies Christ and cotinues on in his sin, denying it's a sin in the first place - isn't a Christian.
As a religionist, you simply want to argue your perversions and justifications for those deviancies.
Fine.
But don't pretend your logic applies to the Word and God.
You're only make sense to other religionists, not to Christians.
You obviously don't & won't get it until you repent of the religion.
tyeporter 1 year ago
So there's a sin free Christian? Do you have their name? Or is is it a homosexual can get into heaven? Which were you giving affirmation to?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
@SocialDissimulation to which did I give affirmation?
Reread the post.
tyeporter 1 year ago
Good video :D
Jh0e 1 year ago
@Jh0e thanks
tyeporter 1 year ago