Re Mark Fallon, unapro3, He was NOT hotdogging it back at low level. He was doing a simulated "loft-bomb" delivery which is started using TFR approach, pull-up and release the bomb, then a inverted roll onto the exit heading and descend on TFR. The other comment about the high angle-of-attack stall is not quite correct, the barometric altimeter is not used in the TFR system at low level (below 1500m), it is a radar altimeter that has no QNH input. The height setting is on the TFR control box.
This proves that F1-11's are crap and unreliable i mean the have been round for 30 odd years doesnt the airforce think that they need more modern planes?
The F111 was a good aircraft, however the problem for them now is getting spare parts and as the planes get older, they get more expensive to maintain, shame they probably won't keep one for airshows, or a museum piece.
We should have gotten like you said the Su34's or the Eurofighter Typhoon. However, of course, we had to be loyal to the Americans even though they didn't actually have an aircraft to offer us that was a modern equivalent to the F111. JSF, unsafe, utter rubbish.
This was the RAAF's fault and not the pilot's. They did a bloody good job, the F-111 was safe and so were they, anyone that wants to disagree with this. Can you do a better landing without wheels than this?
Because I sure as hell would like to see it. Get a life and stop dissing the pilots and the RAAF and do some useful things rather then diss the RAAF.
Oh now now you two all planes eventually have a gear up its part of flying not the best part but it happens. heck i went for a ride in a yak-52 and we came in gear up. all is well. Has nothing to do with the age of the planes. Modern planes go down too.
The F111 is not that unreliable and they are far from crap. It mainly stems from us not flying them enough and the usual 'things happen'. When they are flogged harder, like on exercises, they perform exceptionally well. The F111 squadrons on large exercises have often had the highest serviceability rate and dropped less sorties than any other aircraft type involved in that exercise. This includes Red Flag etc. This happens more often than not, even in the last few years.
This was not a fault with the F111, it was 100% the RAAF Maintenance Department's fault and also not the pilot's fault, the pilot did a remarkable job getting the plane down considering he had not been flying the aircraft for very long. The F111 is way better than the piece of utter rubbish, JSF. The JSF is a cheap mans F22, because apparently the F22 is too secret, even for an ally!
Yes it is, I am not 100% sure on this however, when this happened I believe that the RAAF was still doing them and it went to Boeing soon after, correct me if I am wrong. But they switched to them around a similar time to this incident, I thought.
@macdonaldjohnstonfan thank you, someone that thinks the same as me, when I went to RAAF amberley a couple of months ago i asked why they were going to be decommissioned, they said it was because they didnt hav enough spare parts. My instant reaction was to say to him, "but couldnt boieng make the parts?" he said "yes but the F-111 is to old."
Bullcrap the F-111 is to old its better than the peice of crap JSF
not just restricted to ADFA mate. there are 2 avenues of entry: direct entry and ADFA.
for direct entry...recruitment, enlistment and basic flight training will take minimum 1 and a half years...so around 20 years of age would be the youngest possible squadron-active pilots in the RAAF. (in theory, however I beleive the youngest pilot to be flying as a fully-fledged pilot in the RAAF was 22)
Actually, the youngest thus far has been a guy by the name of FLGOFF Mark Fallon. He was a 19 year old F-111C pilot. He and his Navigator were killed in the late 1980's during a night strike mission in Northern NSW.
ahh yeah my mistake, mark fallon, 19yo. f111 a8-128. he set the wrong QNH and the terrain following radar panicked when it was activated and put the plane into a high speed, high angle of attack stall - right into the ground. god rest his soul.
I've used to live near there (i use the term loosely, We were actually around 20+km away), and (although i wasn't alive) my parents said they could hear the explosion from that far away.
wrong they have to go to ADFA first to become an officer and then have to get accepted into the fighter program they would be atleast 21 before they get to fly.
Wrong ! Very wrong !! There are two avenues of entry into the RAAF for pilots: ADFA and Direct Entry. DE pilots attend Pt. Cook for Officer Training (OTS) and then move onto flying training. ADFA people study for their respective degrees and complete their Officer Training at Pt. Cook and ADFA concurrent with their studies. They then move onto flying training after that. Direct Entry is the shortest route to the cockpit.
Re Mark Fallon, unapro3, He was NOT hotdogging it back at low level. He was doing a simulated "loft-bomb" delivery which is started using TFR approach, pull-up and release the bomb, then a inverted roll onto the exit heading and descend on TFR. The other comment about the high angle-of-attack stall is not quite correct, the barometric altimeter is not used in the TFR system at low level (below 1500m), it is a radar altimeter that has no QNH input. The height setting is on the TFR control box.
greasymonky 3 years ago
They would not have attempted it if they were not sure it would end safely.
ALAJOHNSTONE 3 years ago
well done fellas......great bit of airmanship
bigaussie68 3 years ago
This proves that F1-11's are crap and unreliable i mean the have been round for 30 odd years doesnt the airforce think that they need more modern planes?
willhutchison18 4 years ago
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macdonaldjohnstonfan 4 years ago
F111 is cold war tech, no other airforce uses them.
But i agree JSF is junk, RAAF should of bought the Su34 Strike fighter as a replacement for the f111
ColdWarWarriors 2 years ago
The F111 was a good aircraft, however the problem for them now is getting spare parts and as the planes get older, they get more expensive to maintain, shame they probably won't keep one for airshows, or a museum piece.
We should have gotten like you said the Su34's or the Eurofighter Typhoon. However, of course, we had to be loyal to the Americans even though they didn't actually have an aircraft to offer us that was a modern equivalent to the F111. JSF, unsafe, utter rubbish.
macdonaldjohnstonfan 2 years ago
This was the RAAF's fault and not the pilot's. They did a bloody good job, the F-111 was safe and so were they, anyone that wants to disagree with this. Can you do a better landing without wheels than this?
Because I sure as hell would like to see it. Get a life and stop dissing the pilots and the RAAF and do some useful things rather then diss the RAAF.
bobsac555 4 years ago
Oh now now you two all planes eventually have a gear up its part of flying not the best part but it happens. heck i went for a ride in a yak-52 and we came in gear up. all is well. Has nothing to do with the age of the planes. Modern planes go down too.
Floatsforlife 4 years ago
The F111 is not that unreliable and they are far from crap. It mainly stems from us not flying them enough and the usual 'things happen'. When they are flogged harder, like on exercises, they perform exceptionally well. The F111 squadrons on large exercises have often had the highest serviceability rate and dropped less sorties than any other aircraft type involved in that exercise. This includes Red Flag etc. This happens more often than not, even in the last few years.
mafiand 3 years ago
dickhead it was a kid your age that fucked
up not the f1 tosser
grunt182820 2 years ago
This was not a fault with the F111, it was 100% the RAAF Maintenance Department's fault and also not the pilot's fault, the pilot did a remarkable job getting the plane down considering he had not been flying the aircraft for very long. The F111 is way better than the piece of utter rubbish, JSF. The JSF is a cheap mans F22, because apparently the F22 is too secret, even for an ally!
macdonaldjohnstonfan 2 years ago
@macdonaldjohnstonfan Isn't the RAAF's maintenance subcontracted to Boeing thesedays and no longer carried out by RAAF personel?
ColdWarWarriors 2 years ago
Yes it is, I am not 100% sure on this however, when this happened I believe that the RAAF was still doing them and it went to Boeing soon after, correct me if I am wrong. But they switched to them around a similar time to this incident, I thought.
macdonaldjohnstonfan 2 years ago
@ColdWarWarriors yes
mrsurfingtarp 1 year ago
@macdonaldjohnstonfan thank you, someone that thinks the same as me, when I went to RAAF amberley a couple of months ago i asked why they were going to be decommissioned, they said it was because they didnt hav enough spare parts. My instant reaction was to say to him, "but couldnt boieng make the parts?" he said "yes but the F-111 is to old."
Bullcrap the F-111 is to old its better than the peice of crap JSF
thank you
mrsurfingtarp 1 year ago
High angle of attack stall??? He didn't have TFR on, he was hotdogging it back home from Sale Victoria low altitude and fucked up.
unapro3 4 years ago
This report makes the pilot look like a newbie.
But the Seven News one actually acknowledged his skill.
Well done to the Pilot and crew that helped them come down safely.
Terr0risT100 5 years ago
The pilot of this landing was 29.
wkomar 5 years ago
not just restricted to ADFA mate. there are 2 avenues of entry: direct entry and ADFA.
for direct entry...recruitment, enlistment and basic flight training will take minimum 1 and a half years...so around 20 years of age would be the youngest possible squadron-active pilots in the RAAF. (in theory, however I beleive the youngest pilot to be flying as a fully-fledged pilot in the RAAF was 22)
aphexau 5 years ago
Actually, the youngest thus far has been a guy by the name of FLGOFF Mark Fallon. He was a 19 year old F-111C pilot. He and his Navigator were killed in the late 1980's during a night strike mission in Northern NSW.
AussieAviator 5 years ago
ahh yeah my mistake, mark fallon, 19yo. f111 a8-128. he set the wrong QNH and the terrain following radar panicked when it was activated and put the plane into a high speed, high angle of attack stall - right into the ground. god rest his soul.
aphexau 5 years ago
I've used to live near there (i use the term loosely, We were actually around 20+km away), and (although i wasn't alive) my parents said they could hear the explosion from that far away.
sneakeypete 5 years ago
wrong they have to go to ADFA first to become an officer and then have to get accepted into the fighter program they would be atleast 21 before they get to fly.
edwardsajl 5 years ago
Wrong ! Very wrong !! There are two avenues of entry into the RAAF for pilots: ADFA and Direct Entry. DE pilots attend Pt. Cook for Officer Training (OTS) and then move onto flying training. ADFA people study for their respective degrees and complete their Officer Training at Pt. Cook and ADFA concurrent with their studies. They then move onto flying training after that. Direct Entry is the shortest route to the cockpit.
AussieAviator 5 years ago
Aussie air force pilots don't have to have a degree before they join. They have had 19 year olds flying the F-111 and FA-18's.
TWCobra 5 years ago
i cant beleive the dude was 22... lucky prick
peterarian 5 years ago