In this case, the defensive player had not yet established his position in order to take the charge. The block was probably not called due to the offensive players size difference or maybe the ref just didn't feel it was to be called
blocking foul the defensive player was in motion. for a charging foul you need to have both feet planted and you can not move or it will be called a block. Any body movement from head to toe while the defender is trying to draw a charging foul will result in a blocking foul.
@choochoodude13 Although, the defender does not have to be planted to obtain a charge call. Remember the defensive player is entitled to his or her vertical plane therefore a player does not have to be planted. In this play there was NO LEGAL GUARDING POSITION established. You are right it is a block.
Its obviously a blocking foul. Nobody can just jumps infront of an offensive player to call it a block. If thats legal, we would be playing rugby instead.
Before reading the previous comment, I had reached the same conclusion for the same reason. The defender never established legal guarding position (never got 2 feet on the court, facing the offensive player, prior to moving laterally). Because of the severity of the collision, I would go with a block (rather than a no-call). But...the call is much easier to make in a slow motion video...than in the split second on the court when things are moving fast....
With the assumption of no other violation or foul (e.g., no travel), I have a block on that play. W4 does not appear to have attained legal guarding position nor established himself at any singular spot on the floor when contact is made with R50. R 50 is pretty much running parallel to the near lane line as he gathers to shoot, while W4 is sliding towards the area of the lower block at a fairly significant angle. For those reasons, a blocking foul could have been called.
@CAScreaminDude First of all you don't have to set or stationary to take a charge and second you can move backward or to the side and still take a charge it's in the rule book. The only thing you can't do is move forward into the offensive player which this defender did not do and third to establish position all you have to do is face the defender with both feet on the ground then you may move. This is a charge, the offensive player initiated the contact by jumping forward into the defender.
The defender fails to maintain his oblique angle, resulting in a crash play. At the level provided (JV Boys), this play shall ordinarily result in a call. An offensive foul, though incorrect, would have been preferable to a no-call. Note that W4 has not attained legal guarding position as he never met the criteria of NFHS Rule 4-23-2-a: W4 did not have both feet in simultaneous contact with the floor as required by rule to establish initial legal guarding position. The correct call is a block.
Legal Guarding position was definitely obtained (ie, torso facing opponent and two feet touching the floor. You can move, turn, run with ball handler, jump dodge, dive, duck dip, dodge as long as it is not TOWARD the ball handler. Until the ballhandler gets shoulders AND head past the defender, the handler is responsible for contact. Absolutely without question a charge. Time and distance do not matter. I am reading the rule book for this post as well.
In this case, the defensive player had not yet established his position in order to take the charge. The block was probably not called due to the offensive players size difference or maybe the ref just didn't feel it was to be called
Stinger49 1 week ago
blocking foul the defensive player was in motion. for a charging foul you need to have both feet planted and you can not move or it will be called a block. Any body movement from head to toe while the defender is trying to draw a charging foul will result in a blocking foul.
choochoodude13 1 month ago
@choochoodude13 Although, the defender does not have to be planted to obtain a charge call. Remember the defensive player is entitled to his or her vertical plane therefore a player does not have to be planted. In this play there was NO LEGAL GUARDING POSITION established. You are right it is a block.
Ref901 1 month ago
Blocking foul. He wasn't set at all, he clearly steps into the shooter.
TheRayhoven 3 months ago
Its obviously a blocking foul. Nobody can just jumps infront of an offensive player to call it a block. If thats legal, we would be playing rugby instead.
guesswhoisthis101 11 months ago
Before reading the previous comment, I had reached the same conclusion for the same reason. The defender never established legal guarding position (never got 2 feet on the court, facing the offensive player, prior to moving laterally). Because of the severity of the collision, I would go with a block (rather than a no-call). But...the call is much easier to make in a slow motion video...than in the split second on the court when things are moving fast....
daveup09 1 year ago
With the assumption of no other violation or foul (e.g., no travel), I have a block on that play. W4 does not appear to have attained legal guarding position nor established himself at any singular spot on the floor when contact is made with R50. R 50 is pretty much running parallel to the near lane line as he gathers to shoot, while W4 is sliding towards the area of the lower block at a fairly significant angle. For those reasons, a blocking foul could have been called.
CAScreaminDude 1 year ago
@CAScreaminDude First of all you don't have to set or stationary to take a charge and second you can move backward or to the side and still take a charge it's in the rule book. The only thing you can't do is move forward into the offensive player which this defender did not do and third to establish position all you have to do is face the defender with both feet on the ground then you may move. This is a charge, the offensive player initiated the contact by jumping forward into the defender.
chitownref 3 months ago
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CAScreaminDude 3 months ago
The defender fails to maintain his oblique angle, resulting in a crash play. At the level provided (JV Boys), this play shall ordinarily result in a call. An offensive foul, though incorrect, would have been preferable to a no-call. Note that W4 has not attained legal guarding position as he never met the criteria of NFHS Rule 4-23-2-a: W4 did not have both feet in simultaneous contact with the floor as required by rule to establish initial legal guarding position. The correct call is a block.
CAScreaminDude 3 months ago
Legal Guarding position was definitely obtained (ie, torso facing opponent and two feet touching the floor. You can move, turn, run with ball handler, jump dodge, dive, duck dip, dodge as long as it is not TOWARD the ball handler. Until the ballhandler gets shoulders AND head past the defender, the handler is responsible for contact. Absolutely without question a charge. Time and distance do not matter. I am reading the rule book for this post as well.
Sharpshooterness11 1 month ago