Logical Disconnect

[PrinceWalter]

Did i smell the word "logic"? P: the first humans Gen 1:25-27. Q: foragers R: tillers of the ground ~R: NOT tillers of the ground Gen 2:5. IF the “men and women” “created” on the sixth day were the first humans (P), THEN they were foragers (Q), OR they were tillers of the ground (R). “and there was NOT a man to till the ground.” (~R). THEREFORE, the men and women created on the sixth day were foragers (Q). (P -> Q) v (P -> R) : P -> (Q ^ R) ~R ( P -> Q)

[ILIYYILI]

I don't know, therefor I know God made it.

ha?

[Saduwo]

Just a little comment.. there actually has been indication of there being a great flood in the world's history... just.. perhaps not global and of course not caused by a god.

[DoomsdayR3sistance]

I think video displays some parts of my decision to go to agnosticism (from simply apathy, come from a family background of apathy to religion or atheism). Their is room for a place where a god or divine could exist, doesn't mean any certainity for it but the certainity is, it wouldn't fit in line with the christian, islam, etc, views of a creator or divine being however.

[NonStampCollector]

There it is, you said it all a year ago.

Great stuff.

(with criminally low view count. INSANELY low).

[eequalsfb]

I said it all one year ago and got 14 comments.

You said it all one week ago and got 10,000 comments.

OK. So I'm starting to think one of us said it better than the other. I say we give it a few weeks for the statistics to level out, and we will announce the winner.

[plevyman]

I'm not sure the argument that there is order in the universe, implying existence of a creator is that strong. First of all, they obviously don't know anything about quantum mechanics. Secondly, the reason we see order in the universe is because we look for it. The general approach of science (particularly physics) is, if a problem is too difficult to model, then simplify it. So we come up with equations that look ordered, but their interaction is anything but.

[plevyman]

A simple example shows what I'm talking about. We know the equations that describe the movement of fluids, under the influence of gravitation, pressure etc. Great, so we can more or less describe the flow of water under constant pressure in a pipe of constant cross-section. Put something dynamic into it, though - say a teaspoon stirring in a repeated circular motion in a cup - and it becomes impossible (in practice) to model. I'm not sure even our best supercomputers can manage it.

[rozeboosje]

Ah! Thanks for reminding me. This is where I had come across the "god's penis" question before!

[UcanbeGOD]

Good observation. 5 of them motherfucking stars.

[Legatou0]

(cont) Off topic but still pertinent:

A lot of creationist babble against evolution strikes me as odd. Most of their beliefs are grounded in the insecurity of the idea that we are superior to the natural realm. It seems they want to extrapolate themselves beyond the known world (and into the realm of spirit and god), and the idea that we are animals let alone the idea that we share a common ancestor with other apes seems to take away from that inner divinity they so desperately cling to.

[eequalsfb]

Yea? Well your comments are too long. :P

Indeed. I talked about that for a bit (probably not long enough) in my "Creationist Ego" video. I'm very interested in the psychology that is at work with religious folks. I don't have a lot of education in psychology, but that doesn't stop me from speculating. I think you're right on the money.

[Legatou0]

Your videos are too short E. :D

Religion itself, ignoring the fact that without parent-child indoctrination it couldn't self-perpetuate, stems from the desire to know. Humans are curious beings. To the rational minority, we use our curiosity to further the knowledge of man with research and experiments, i.e. science. To the majority, instead of saying "We don't know right now, let's figure it out!", they look to others that claim to "know" already, and it makes them feel good for some reason.

[CO2Junkie]

I have to disagree on the logic of that argument. In an infinite chaos eventually some of the chaos will strike a rhythm and become 'ordered'. Watch 'synchronisation' or watch?v=W1TMZASCR-I You will see the unordered metronomes become ordered. I suggest this is due to the path of least resistance... in other words the sum of working together outweighs the individual arhythms so the 'order' accumulates. This can be bad. Imagine a universe with too much order & predictability... think black hole.

[mconn2112]

Great vid man. The physics of these events and happenings have a tendency to be a non factor for creationists. I guess their pissed man god bends the laws of the universe at will. Makes sense.

[rozeboosje]

"They know he's got a penis"

Right. And what would God's penis be FOR?

[eequalsfb]

Black holes?

For when god gets a touch of the jungle fever?

[rozeboosje]

LOL

[6gording6]

I say the same things about atheist.

[Atheistblindchick]

Saying "I don't know" is pretty hard for a lot of people... They want, no need certainty...

[eequalsfb]

Saying "I know" when I don't is alot harder for me.

[frickenusernames]

Mr. & Mrs. C. they called um'... HAHA

[freetaught]

I think that an interesting point to focus on is that historically defenders of religion didn't focus on physics at all to explain why there must be a god. It just so happens that our greatest minds have already dispelled all of those old mysteries,and has even proven others to be foolish:like the origin of rainbow.

This argument of complexity is a very modern reason for why god may be likely;and lets be honest,we wouldn't even have this one without scientific study to begin with.Great Video!