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  • every time i see an example of societal conditioning when i look at other people in my life,my minds eye sees an imaginary vagabondsteve head saying “societal conditioning!” i think iv maybe watched too many of your vids LOL,joking, ur vids are awesome and have actually helped me a lot. please keep making

  • @1nf1n1tyW1th1n Thank you. Awareness is fantastic!

  • Lovely and so true, really true joy comes from just being, something in today's left brained world that we all struggle with:-) You have wonderful insight for such a young guy - bless you - hugs:-)

  • Grant intellectual freedom to speculate (GIFTS) to yourself and others, and try to find the part of yourself that enjoys the journey, even when you don't think you are.

  • Wow, that helps me go to the next level thanks

  • Thanks for the video!

  • Thank you for all your support and patience.

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  • Vagabond: Yes, ultimately TRUTH, LIFE, the NOW, ONE-ness (& noth even that because these are all LABELS) is manifest in SILENCE..there is a KNOWING that permeates the eternity. All I can do is for you is POINT. Carefully as the finger that points at the moon is not the moon. There is nothing wrong to build ideas on top of concepts on top of feelings, memories, future stuff. None of it exists and it's all false knowledge. This

  • Vagabond: NO! The truth is a mental concepts..see? It's not 'the truth', see? You want to discard everything you are not. What am I...the mind answers because the mind always has a BS response...Actually the MIND is a concept..doesn't exist. Actualy its all nothing but apparantly someone is typing this and someone is reading it. But its an assuption of the mind...more BS! See Randall Friendl, google his blog: "You are dreaming."Also: "Urban Guru Cafe" . YOU ARE SEARCHING!

  • xmenrus you never answered my questions in my previous comments. You tell me to read other people's blogs. Isn't that just more SEARCHING! Why do I need to read anything? Isn't what they say just more mental concepts because truth spoken is not truth as you have said?

  • Vagabond; The truth that can be spoken is NOT the truth. ALL words are pointers, labels...The finder the points at the moon is NOT the moon. The word MOON is not the moon! The mind generates concepts only..thruth impossible in the mind. Ideas are a jumble of concepts. The mind reaches into the grab bag of memories and says, 'this is true'---it's BULLSHIT! The is no power in mental concepts because it's just a rehash of something that happened in the past. The past doesn't exist.

  • CORRECTION: The finger that points at the moon is not the moon.

  • Thank you for sharing. Isn't everything you just said a thought or jumble of concepts? "Truth that can be spoken is NOT the truth" is a wildly held cliche used in many spiritual circles. It doesn't mean it's a fact. You say spoken truth is not possible? Is "Love others as yourself" then just 'BULLSHIT' as you say. While I understand the gist of your beliefs, my life experience & common sense prove otherwise.

  • True the past doesn't exist but it DID exist and is my greatest teacher. Personal, individual, and global spiritual truths are tangible. Spirituality is moving beyond new age dogmas and uncovering your authentic self. It's a great topic. I greatly appreciate your comment. Would you mind also responding to my previous comment?

  • it's good you have a passion for life, but what you speak about is not truth.... but passion for life. The reason they say truth cannot be spoken is bc the underlying truth of all forms is the one thing that is not a form. Speech is a form, which is why truth cannot be spoken.

  • Truth can't be spoken is YOUR belief. It doesn't mean truth can't be spoken. "Love thy neighbor as yourself" is a great example of spoken truth. How can you tell someone their beliefs are wrong through words if truth can't be spoken?

  • right, saying truth cannot be spoken would be a belief, but it's not a mere statement based on belief, but investigation of the person who is making the statement. Upon investigation, it is found that the person inquiring about their own existence doesn't exist, and so they say truth cannot be spoken. I'm not trying to convince you, I'm explaining why they say truth cannot be spoken, and why your interpretation if this statement as a "belief" is false

  • The reason you can say that a belief is false is bc all beliefs are false. I may say that beliefs are false, but have no true belief myself. And the reason I can say beliefs are false is bc also saying beliefs are false, is also false. Yes I am aware of this apparent contradiction, so I guess it's just something people just have to realize on their own.

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  • I was just explaining what "truth cannot be spoken" means. Anything that can be expressed has a point of view, an opposite. Truth refers to that which has no opposite, or the source of all opposites. The saying "that which has no opposite" is not truth itself, not actually that which has no opposite. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying that speaking the word truth isn't truth, describing true nature isn't true nature. It shouldn't be a difficult point, but saying it seems to be.

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  • no, saying your wall is white isn't truth, it's a relative fact. There's a difference between fact and truth. There are 3 subjects in your sentence which you have assumed to exist. You assume walls, the color white, and you perceiving all exist. All you can say is you perceive what you call a wall, and you perceive what you have learned to call white, and what you have learned to call you calling these things. Upon investigation, perception is seen to have no truth bc it is completely relative

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  • what? Where did that come from? I thought you were in to this "spiritual" stuff? I'm not saying something way out there. This is "common knowledge" among spiritual people. All I'm saying is "perception isn't truth". That's it. Is that really weird?

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  • Why pissing you off? Just wondering, I don't think I was offensive. I'm curious what you find weird about what I said. Even if I've never heard of spirituality before, what I said doesn't sound weird and I've heard it before. Obviously, there's not really a wall there.. you're biologically programmed to see a wall, and sociologically conditioned to call it a wall. DUH! It's just obvious. The wall itself doesn't see a wall, you do cause you have eyes. So what is it that looks through your eyes?

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  • I see, I guess it sucks to be you if you're the type of person who gets mad bc you don't comprehend well presented logic. Thanks for explaining, now I understand why you see my posts as douchebaggery. However, you still didn't explain why what I said was weird. I retorted by saying my "theories" aren't weird, but are common knowledge. Yes I can see why that would annoy you, but why is my "perception isn't truth" theory weird? I didn't say you SHOULD know anything. Quite projecting.

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  • lol. well go back to pre-school if you can't even explain yourself. DUH EHHH UGHHHH!!!!

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  • that's much weirder than anything I said.

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  • "The mind that bends, bends all." Who's mind doesn't bubble up concepts? If it comes from the mind it is a fictitious truth. "The truth that can be spoken is NOT the truth." You are trapped forever if you THINK you can distill the truth with the mind! "All men are liers."

  • Who wrote your comment? Was it you or your mind? How do you know the difference?

  • once again, thanks alote for the vid man.

  • T.Y. for commenting.

  • LOL! Wow. You promote trusting yourself as the authority on life. It's crazy. Have you really read Eckhart Tolle? It's like people read about this stuff and then say the opposite. It's all just about inflating ego ever more. Come on man.

  • I think Steve is pointing to "the inner guru". IF you experience self-realization, then you can trust your own authority. If you are ego-identified then, yes, in many ways you will be deluding yourself.

  • "If you experience self realization, you can trust your own authority." Come on. Read that over.

  • Well stated. Thank you for elaborating on the video.

  • Thank you for commenting. Can you please elaborate on how going within is inflating the ego even more?

  • The reason I said read the comment over is bc it didn't make sense to meI was under the impression that self realization is realizing that you have no authority.

  • Who then has the authority over your life?

  • In this discussion about "truth", I don't have a life. That's the truth realization I thought you had, but you seem to have realized something else and calling it self realization. In the context of self realization, the question "who has authority over your lfie?" makes no sense bc there is no personal life, and certainly no person having an authority over it.

  • scribd . com/doc/4932024/The-true-relig­ion-of-god-By-Bilal-Philips and next quranandscience . com

    As I said I'm impressed by your rational approach and it's not everyday I come across individuals with their head screwed right on. We are all given a free will so it's a waste not to use it. Peace

  • Thank you for your encouragement. I'll put your recommended book on my reading list. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.

  • Salam(peace)

    So I don't usually do this but after watching your vid I could not just go on without commenting.You're right in order to reach the ultimate truth we have to turn off the external noise&learn to trust&search within our own soul and in this search we can not limit ourselves just as we must also open our minds to all the theories of truth there are out there.Your vid is head-on & you speak the raw truth brother which is why I would like to challenge you with these reads:

  • Damn! You have incredible producing and editing talents. It's an illuminating compilation. Thank you for helping spread the word.

  • tHaNk yOu!

  • look for the place inside of you that always was, and always will be, and tap into it.

  • your really smart,you have a wealth of knowledge

  • Appreciate your comment.

  • Great video Steve, ,much appreciated

  • This reminded me of the book The Miracle of Mindfullness by Thich Nhat Hanh.  Great video. Once again you bring me back to my happy place when I need it. lol Ty Steve.

  • Good book recommendation. I greatly appreciate your continued support.

  • great videos man

  • Thanks CaliKush1 for taking the time to support the channel.

  • wouldnt alow my comment oh well

  • nice vlog. very true and wise.

    funny how a child doesn't question itself, or analyse others to death, it just accepts and learns, and a child often asks the simplest and most pertinent questions... If a child can get lost in watching an ant climb to the tip of a blade of grass for 20 mins, who needs meditation?

    I'm a firm supporter in remaining childlike in as many ways as you can for as long as you can in the pursuit of happiness and contentment. It somehow works

  • Beautiful stated: "If a child can get lost in watching an ant climb to the tip of a blade of grass for 20 mins, who needs meditation?"

  • Hi Steve...awsome video. Like you say, you've got to be open to others' ideas and suggestions. 90% of my knowledge in life comes from past life experience. When people see negative happenings as being bad. I see them as positives and learn from it. Many people roam through life thinking it's unfair, but I see this as tools on how to deal with life itself. I hope this explanation makes sense...lol. Keep up the videos. You're a very smart person. :)

  • Great philosophy! Thank you for your support.

  • you are encouraged to live in your mind, and that is where we are at all times, nothing outside your mind, you are pulled by the ego to invest in the illusion, so slow is your progression because you think what you see hear or feel is real

  • Beautifully done, Steve. Your answer is really amazing to me. Whats so amazing is how many nails you hit so squarely on their heads. Ive never seen any issue, never mind such an important one as this, addressed with such scope, depth and precision in a mere ten minutes!

    I've made an attempt to honor and applaud what you've done by writing a summary of what you have said. But it won't fit here, so I'll post it in your profile instead.

    -- Ben

  • Thank you Ben! You have no idea how much your encouragement means to me.

  • Excellent!

  • oopsie, I cant believe I forgot to add awritten comment :)

    Youre amazing Steve......keep up the awesome work. You truly make a difference in this world with your messages :)

  • Thank you Jak. I also encourage viewers of this video to check out jakluk4. She's very down to earth & presents political topics sans the rage.

  • You're the raw deal man! props to Jakluk4 for pointin you out to me :)

  • This one really hit a cord with me, particularly as of late.

    Thank you yet again, Steve.

    -Zac =)

  • Thank you once again for your *distillation* of your self expression, your truth that really makes sense and rings true with me as well. I absolutely agree simplicity is sublime...I love watching you for a fresh perspective, always sensible and sublime. :)

  • You have my gratitude. Thank you for taking the time to comment.

  • Excellent. Please keep making videos, your genuine.

  • Will do... thank you for your encouragement.

  • Much needed Steve. Always a breath of fresh air listening to you, brings me back to the source.

    Take care man. :- )

  • Much appreciation.

  • Very interesting. I've been working on simplicity for the last couple of years and it has made a huge impact on my happiness and my ability to relax. I think that I may be a little too relaxed now, but I'm so much more happy and have a true sense of freedom.

  • Why do you think you might be too relaxed? Thank you for sharing your journey with us.

  • I think I'm too relaxed now because I don't even have the urge to make as much money as I used to.

  • I seem to want to favorite all of your videos!! aghh!!! XD

  • Good to see I'm not the only one! ;-)

  • Thank you both for the continued support.

  • maybe the distilled water analogy could symbolize conscious living? also, society may confuse that conditioned feeling of lack and "not enuf" with the innately human drive to constantly evolve? wouldn't it be easy to get trapped by one's ego and suffering, instead of feeling that creative impulse (which you so innately have with your language/communcation skills)? your reference to laziness may be at the root of this too.. have a pleasant afternoon kindred spirit!

  • Distilled water = conscious living. I like!

  • ...You can limit seeking and you can just accept things take it all with a progressive mind if you will, non-resistant. I like what you are saying rather than searching it out look within to be sure of whatever you are sensing and feeling, but at the same time seek truth like a child wide open to life but not seeking truth in the opinions of others. Quieting my mind(ego) has been one of the best practices of my existence so far, amazing transformative power just to be you, just be.

  • You got it!

  • I'm very glad you do share your opinions and ideas here, thank you for sharing. I've been trying in my life to be open to things, people when people talk to me now I actually listen to them instead of coming up with my own ideas, judgments, criticisms and trying to be right. I've tried very hard to be receptive to things as they come into my reality and I understand that essence of life is just that, everything I experience. Cont...

  • This video echoes my bubbling up sentiments about life. I do a lot of reading and thinking and wondering and, quite frankly, I feel like I just want to put down the books. I made this comment to someone once that has stuck with me, "I can ask the grandest theologian about the meaning of life, etc., and I still wouldn't believe them because I know that they are only human. They don't know all the answers. It's only their perspective."

    I sometimes worry that I'm too open-minded. Is that possible?

  • Open-minded can be good when all things are measured by YOUR own inner compass. There is no replacement for self-discovered truth.

  • yes you re right. I am getting to consumed by this hyperinflationary greatest depression. i need to slow down and take a break to think about the 1000 things i need to be prepared.

  • the truth is that its a good decision to buy silver coins now. Its also the truth that raw food is the only way to avoid bad diseases like cancer. Try it 100 raw vegan for 3 weeks and you WILL agree. Before you did it u cant judge, because you have no experience.

  • I admire your persistence.

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