Self Forgiveness for Kids - Frankie Learns Self Forgiveness

[ohilikeyou]

Why does this kid need to "forgive himself" for another kid bullying him. lol i hope you can see the humor and how ridiculous this scenario is. Also, i noticed the girl look up to you at 2:36 as if to say "Am I doing this right?" ... like honestly she doesn't even believe or understand what she is saying is right.

[SimulacronX]

So it's real. The Desteni cult is indoctrinating kids. Gosh.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX hi, if you take a look, it is assisting kids to let go of limitation and teaching kids not to hurt one another, when a kid gets angry, one forgives one self in being angry, therefore you stop violence, and all the shit that the current "culture" that is being taught to kids.

desteni is not a "cult", you are already in a "cult-ure", its about releasing what you have been taught and programmed so you become "free" from all the shit that is being promoted in society today.

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Desteni is clearly a cult to me.For various reasons.I just hope the kids are alright.They might not really understand self-forgiveness,and they might have to just let things out,to live out their emotions. Your responsability how to assist kids in what they are,your choice.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX they are my nephews and neices, yes they are alright, they are free, they express themselves everyday and they join activities, i teach them self forgiveness so they learn about working on their own self and take self responsibility, as you can see they express themselves and are not "suppress", they also join activities like martial arts and Frankie just recently joined football, all of them are learning to be self responsible,

so what is the problem that you see?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you are only projecting your own fears, the video that you see is a mirror, and your fear is triggered by what you see, they are learning to stand up for their own self,

so take a look at your fears, "fear" is what created this world, and take a look at this world now, everyone is just projecting their fear , through fear people became "greedy" and through "greed" people stop caring for one another and being one and equal to support all Life in this world,

so check your "fears"

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX self forgiveness is about standing up and taking self responsibility for self

if you take a look at the education system where kids go to, kids are not being taught anything that teaches them to be self responsible for their own self as well as others,

so ask yourself, what problem do you see when kids learn to take self responsibility for their own self as well as others through self forgiveness?

[SimulacronX]

2) Self forgiveness may be a nice tool itself;I'm mainly concerned about this youths-appealing cult universe of Desteni;they isolate people from the rest of the world;they propagate a whole plethora of esoterical mishmash;all members just reproduce the statements of Mr Poolman etc etc etc. Anyway it's your choice.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX its not isolating from the rest of the world, lol, you, me and every being in this world IS the WORLD, the WORLD is a reflection of who we are within, therefore, to change this world, it must start within you,

all projection of your own fear does not fix this world, that is called "blame" and through "blame" you do not learn to stand up and take self responsibility for your self as well as this world.

check your "blame" and your "fears" cause all of it is just suppressing you

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan I'm glad to hear your kids live well etc. As for the rest, you exactly sound like a Scientologist. It is ridiculous to throw all those very personal things about myself at me, yet you don't know me at all. Anyway, wish you well.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX well if you take a look within yourself, that is how you are existing, your "words" reveal who you are, that is why we work on ourselves through Self Forgiveness and we "self realize" ourselves and through "self realization" we understand how things are created and how we are existing as the mind

according to your words and your projections on your postings, it reveals your "fears" but you are not standing up, so you "blame" others for the "fears" you experience within you,

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so that is why you "think" its ridiculous for me to throw personal things at you, because you are not "aware" of who you are and how you have become, and how you have "programmed" your self as the mind,

once you start working on your Self Forgiveness, and start "Self realizing" you will start to realize that all you have projected is a delusion created by your own mind,

so ask your self, "why do i fear desteni? " you will realize that all you have feared is just your own self

[SimulacronX]

Wow,you Desteni robots sound all the same.Sad thing.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so if you take a look, all your fear projections, and your blame and sadness, are all existing within you, its not because of Desteni,

Desteni is just a mirror of what you have allowed within your self,

so the more you support your "fear, blame" you are just abusing your own Self.

do you allow that abuse to continue within your Self ?

[SimulacronX]

We are not all equal in all terms.You don't react to what I wrote.Because you don't know me,your assumptions and projections on my persona make no sense,please bear with me.Because we all have different life experiences.You just pretend things,like talking to a plant.If you would get to know me better,we would have a real exchange of information.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX i know that you are fighting for your own "fear" and through your "Fear" you project your own abuse through others,

what i say to you does not make sense because you are lost in your mind and living in a delusion, you do not know who you are, thats why it doesnt make sense to you what i say

everything is equal in this world, only your mind in an illusion says we are not, where did you came from? a dirt from earth, no different than any being in this world,

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan You seem to have lost the ability to think for yourself. Yes, the world is unjust;yes,all humans have the right to live a decent life.But for fundamental morality,you don't need to adhere to a group.I bloody don't.I don't fear Desteni,they make me angry,because they are full of contradictions.Do you understand what I write?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX Desteni doesnt make you angry, you are only angry at your own self,

you "blame" desteni for your own shit, so you project your own shit to desteni and be angry at them,

tell me have you even work on your self? you havent, you think "blaming" fixes the worlds problems? you think being "Angry" at something fixes the worlds problems?

nope, when are you going to realize that "blame" and "anger" doesnt solve problems but only keep you in a loop?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX also you fear Desteni because you fear facing your own self, thats why you keep blaming and projecting your own anger

instead of actually standing up and taking responsibility for you, but instead you end up blaming others for standing up,

[SimulacronX]

PS: To the contrary:To me, the Desteni members all seem to be like robots; they are being delusional.Desteni shows all typical signs of a mind controlling cult,sorry to say.But anyway,I appreciate this dialogue,even if you have preconcieved ideas and prejudices about me.Plus,it's not really nice to call me deluded,fearful and lost.Maybe you guys are lost in a totalitarian group.I mean it.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX the word that you use is "seem" thats just a mind belief, they "seem" which is judgement, you wont really understand what "delusional" really means until you work on your self,

you currently are delusional, you are not even aware of your own words and how you are fighting for your own fears

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Could you please stop talking at cross purposes and react to what I wrote? Are you able to do that? Without just droning out the Desteni mantras? Secondly:How can you be so sure you don't have mind beliefs? Is there anything left of your own self, of KennethLilagan? Please react to what I wrote,or there's no dialogue.No communication means no nothing.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX i am currently working on myself and i am working on removing belief systems within me, its a life process, its not like you do it then everything is all fine,

Self is actually nothing, close your eyes and you will see darkness, just nothing,

also why you want me to react? why should i react to your delusions? i can see your delusions

reaction is limitation

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX its interesting, but yes i call you deluded, you might think it is not nice, but you will only realize how deluded you are when you start your process of self forgiveness

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Did you know that Mr Poolman's latest outpouring (23 may-forum) is blatantly antisemitic and Hitler-sympathizing? What has this got to do with oneness and equality?What about you guys being always right and the whole rest of the world wrong?What about proclaiming there are no gods yet Desteni is about a huge plethora of esoteric mishmash about Anu,Gods,White Light construct etc???

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX have you ever seen the History of Man video series? you should watch it, so you understand how things came to be, watch it before you start judging and making assumptions,

as for the whole world being "wrong" tell me something that you accept in this world, because currently this world is about "abuse" there is war, poverty, killing, crime, corruption, dishonesty, it goes on and on, so you dont see those things as a problem in this world?

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Don't you think it's too simple to call everyone delusional, yet you are not able to react to simple sentences? Why don't you react to what I write? If you don't want to have this talk, just say it, no problem.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX we are already talking, and i dont really have any reaction to what you are saying or anything that you have said so far,

[SimulacronX]

PS I sent you a video link, take a look at it. It won't harm you. Just watch it and think about it. It is important. Try to understand mind-controlling techniques used by cult leaders like Bernard Poolman to manipulate people. Just give it a thought.

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan That's the sad thing. That you have no reaction anymore. That you are not able to react to what I say, to react to the outside world. And I said heavy things. Like guru Poolman being blatantly antisemitic and Hitler-sympathizing (I can clearly show it and prove it to you). Do you understand this sentence?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX actually i am not allowing myself to be enslaved by your own delusions, i am also much more expressive and able to express myself a lot more than before, i used to get nervousness and anxious often, then i started working on my Self Forgiveness and now i am a lot more stable, and i can interact with people, strangers without "fear" like before,

as for the Hitler stuff, you should watch History of Man, and then watch the other videos, so that you will understand more

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Alright,I see.Self forgiveness is very nice and useful.You don't know me,but I can assure you,you don't have to fear me.I can just tell I'm not religious,humanist,and love freedom of thought.And Individual freedom of expression.As for the rest-we disagree there."History of man" is totally absurd and nonsensical to me,but what the hell.I really hope you are ok and happy.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you love freedom of thought, which is you loving your own limitation,

when you die your thoughts die, and the thoughts you have defined your self, will be no more, therefore you wont exist any more since all you have become is nothing but a "thought"

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Freedom of thought is the only way.I'm open - you are limited,because you keep on regurgitating the few words all Desteni members tell like robots.Sadly,you don't realise it.Maybe one day you'll understand.Everyone's thoughts die when they die,what do you mean by that?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX i have realized that my thoughts are limited, all "fear" is created by thoughts, which are all illusion,

your thoughts is created by the mind system, when you die, your mind dies, therefore all you have believe yourself to be through "thoughts" will also die, so the "being" that is you defined by thoughts, wont exist because you have defined yourself as a thought,

everything you have believe yourself to be through the mind will be gone when you die, cause the mind dies,

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Without thoughts,without "mind system" as Desteni calls it,we are dead. Without your own thoughts,there is no more KennethLilagan. I don't see KennethLilagan already,where is he? Because all Desteni members regurgitate the same sentences.Can you follow me?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX KennethLilagan is just a name, it is a way to find a being, no you are not dead when you stop your thoughts,

you actually experience yourself as who you really are when you stop your thoughts,

the mind system is really limited, until you start doing Self Forgiveness you wont understand it how the mind system is limited.

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Stop it boy. You sound like a robot! It's a lie,because you will never leave KennethLilagan.I swear one day you'll wake up very disappointed by Desteni,because THEY put a matrix in your head.You are so deep into giving up who you are,it's tragical to me.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you should stop, you are only giving power to your fear the more you preach

you believe in individuality, but you dont realize that we are all one and we all came from the same source, everything that is here in this world this existence is you,

but you are rejecting you, and have given power to your mind , you are like those bible thumpers, no difference

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan I like Zen buddhism though,but Zen is about empyting your mind from obsessions,from compulsive ideas,to be 100% KennethLilagan! As Desteni does the opposite: They want you to give all up for a selfish cause! Thank you for clearly showing me that Desteni is a heavy mind-controlling cult.You all sound the same! Surely you have shaved your hair off too,haven't you.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you are starting to sound like a raving mind controlled lunatic, its really interesting to see how the mind system takes control of a being, and then the being becomes possessed by ones own be-lie-f,

as you can see your mind is kinda taking over you now, becoming possessed slowly , you do not have even the ability to control your self?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you say "without "mind system" as Desteni calls it,we are dead". its really interesting because you are actually "dead" you know why?

because you are living in a delusion, as a mind system, that is living in "fear"

so if you are living in "fear" then youre not really Life, Life doesnt have "fear", but if you look at this world, lots of people are living in fear and projecting fear,believing that they are "living" but actually not, how can you Live if your starting point is fear?

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Wrong,wrong,wrong.I'm not dead,I'm not delusional,I'm not living in fear,that is complete BULLSHIT.I am ME,thank goodness! You are weak for just regurgitating all that psycho-scientology stuff from Desteni.I Desteni.Desteni is evil,selfish and stupid,to give you my opinion.They isolate and ruin young people! It's mind-control! Don't you know mind-controlling? You are a ROBOT, boy.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX looks like you are possessed now by your mind system,

weak is an illusion, for you to believe that you are "strong" you must exist as "weak" for "strong" to exist,

therefore any superiority/strong you are trying to project you are only existing in the opposite of it, which is you existing as inferiority, trying to balance it out through others, which is what you are trying to do now,

which is also why you are saying "boy" to me to show your "dominance" , but really an illusion

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so its fascinating, if you take a look, much of the people in this world, are zombies, they are dead because no one is standing up for Life, everyone is living in their mind, supporting their own fears that basically an illusion,

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX therefore you wont exist because you have allowed yourself to be defined by your mind system, which are all "thoughts",

the being that is who you really are that is powering up your body, you have given away to the mind system, the mind system is not you, but you have become a slave to it, and when the mind dies you as the mind also dies

you can say "sadly" but that is only you projecting your inferiority, you are balancing out your inferiority created by you as your mind,

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan I have given away nothing,luckily.Desteni stops your thoughts! Without own thoughts, there's no more KennethLilagan! Without thoughts, we are dead! Desteni wants you to give up your individuality,so that you completely belong to them! I hope you'll get it some day soon. It is called mind-control! I swear.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you are already mind controlled, you dont realize it, but your already mind controlled

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so everything that you have spoken to me about is actually you as the mind system, which are all delusions, i am not speaking to the "real" you, but only speaking as the mind who speaks in the starting point of polarity,

thats why you keep saying, "sadly" and you are trying to balance out your inferiority and fears which are all created by your mind because you allowed it,

but you are not aware of how you are creating your own delusions, you are only blaming and projecting

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan So you don't have a mind? What are you, a friggin zombie? You are not even able to have a simple talk! Remember what I say: Desteni is a friggin MIND-CONTROLLING CULT. You clearly show all signs of monotony in thinking, you don't react, you became a ROBOT. I swear, you will understand one day. Because you ARE KennethLilagan, and you should be proud of it!

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you speak in the starting point of inferiority, "proud" only exist when one believes oneself to be "inferior" thats why one tries to be "proud" of who they are because they believe that they are inferior,

why do you continue to abuse yourself?

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Yes I'm controlled by my brain - but you are controlled by Bernard Poolman!

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX no im learning to self direct myself and learning to move myself, it is about Self, Self has to self realize and self has to "apply" what one has learned,

so basically you learn to direct your own self, so that you are not "controlled" and "manipulated" by others,

so all these projection you are doing with the cult are all illusions, no one controls me other than my Self,

i used to be controlled by others, now im learning to stand up for my self,

so whats the problm with that

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan See,you "used to be controlled by others,now I'm learning to stand up for myself".So you already had the tendency to adhere to authorities.And now you are in Desteni! Just another organisation/authority telling you what to think. Get well man. I'm warning you: Desteni is harmful.You already sound like a ROBOT. Seriously.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so it all comes back to you again, which is you projecting your own fears, creating beliefs, assumptions, thoughts and ideas that are not even real, which you dont even know because you are just a slave to your own mind, and you do not take the time to actually research and read the materials that are in Desteni

you have become so limited because you have given power to your fears,

you have become less than who you really are

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX so why do you think its called "Self Forgiveness" and "Self Realization" and "SELF Direction" ??

why do you think they call it "SELF" ?? is the starting point coming from another person?

so has your mind and brain allowed you to see this simple word called "SELF"

because all you are doing is raving and projecting your fears and you cant even see the simple common sense answer that is infront of you,

its kinda amazing to see this to show how limited you are as the mind.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX and its bed time for me,

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Yeah,sleep well.Don't call people "dead,lost,fearful,inferior,li­mited", boy.You are offending and impertinent.By this,you have lost already. You are very full of yourself,and full of beliefs,as all are brainwashed Desteni puppets and robots.Are you a robot? Answer now or another time.

[SimulacronX]

You know,when you just throw very personal,yet generalized and completely contextless things at people,it becomes a bit absurd and nonsensical. The world and indivdual perception is far,far more complex then described in the Destini fold.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX the world is actually very simple, what makes it "overwhelming" and "complicated" is because of your "mind", the mind is a limitation causes you to see things as "complicated"

i went through this, i saw the world as "overwhelming" and "complicated" but actually its my "beliefs" and "mind" that has made me see , but in fact the world is simple,

its just we make things complicated for ourselves because of our own created "Fears"

through "delusion" we create "complexity"

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan Again.Please, could you react to what I wrote?

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX what is there to react?

[SimulacronX]

@KennethLilagan PS:If one fine day you'd feel not so sure about Destini anymore,feel free to talk to me.Just saying. I know lots of "organisations", I fight for freedom of thought, that's all.I'm not evil,fearful,or deluded I think.Friends describe me as a very down-to-earth guy.Just saying.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX you are fighting for limitation then, thoughts are not real, they are just things you create within your head and either you make believe with it, beliefs are be-lie-f , beliefs are lies,

thoughts are limitation, Desteni stands for Life and self perfection, self perfection = no limitation, self realize that self is unlimited,

thoughts are limitation, and are not real

so basically you are fighting for your own limitation

thats why we do Self Forgiveness so we become unlimited

[SimulacronX]

I don't fear Destini.I'm upset about any totalitarian group.Seems like you have lost the ability to think for yourself.I allow myself to say this to you,as you became personal.

[KennethLilagan]

@SimulacronX again you are projecting your fears and beliefs, which is suppresing you, desteni is about Equality and to support all Life equally so all live in dignity without "abuse" in this world.

your projections are base on "assumptions" created by your fears which is limiting you to see what Desteni is really about

[klausibaba6]

great :)

thanks for sharing

[clk211bu]

Thankyou Ariel! Thanks for sharing self forgiveness with us!

[pshisbey]

Great show! I love the idea of forgiving yourself for allowing bullies to bully you.

[gabrielietsanders]

yes, thx

[Adam99Wl]

Love it ! FANTASTIC ! :)

[goodrow17]

Awesome..keep up the good work kiddos :)

[IngridBloemheuvel]

coooooooooool!

[JoeKouFullCircle]

this show is cool!

[authmaax]

Ariel's Great show, great aplication!

[resolveitall]

very good, as it is, as it shall be. continue the great work.=1

[LindaDillinger]

VERY Cool! Thanks!

[DeedraChavez]

awesome-thanks for sharing your show :)

[cameronvcope]

Very Cool!!!!

[klevo]

This is a badass show. Keep it up!