The 1911 glider that I mention is at 1:33-note the absence of the horizontal rudder. As far as the milk carton. Milk was in bottles in 1899, the carton would come later. The story is legendary.
Just my opinion and FYI-their wind tunnel testing was a BIG factor towards eventual success. They didn't invent the airfoil, they did however understand how shape (camber) affected performance, ie lift/drift(drag) this was a direct result of the wind tunnel testing.
Ok, thank you for pointing that out. As you may notice from some of my other videos, I am more into modern aircraft than the older ones, and therefore do not normally pay much attention to them. And I did not know that about the milk carton....
Oh snap. I did not realize that is what is implied by my video. I know that they did not invent it.....hope I do not lose points for that....
As for the wind tunnel testing, it was pretty important. Without it they'd be trying to find the best full size
No, your point is very clear, it was obvious about the milk carton, I was refering to the story of Wilbur and the bicycle inner tube box.
Exactly, credit should be paid to George Spratt,who was doing some wind tunnel testing of his own-he gave them tables that showed CP travel for different cambered surfaces. Anyway-a pleasure discussing the Wrights
Oh, ok. I see what you're talking about. And Mr. Spratt wasn't even mentioned in my book (yes, it is a bit lacking in some areas). And a pleasure discussing this too. Normally what I get is "it's a plane, so what?"....nice to talk with someone who knows about aircraft.
A few things to note: The box kite that Wilbur used was not like the one you show. It was not a milk carton, it was a bicycle inner tube box. The CP will naturally go forward on a cambered surface as you decrease the Aof A to a certain point, then it goes backwards. The Wrights were one of the first to realize this.
You don't mention anything about their wind tunnel testing which revised Smeaton and gave them more efficient wings. The glider you show as 1902 is from 1911.
Thank you for your comment. But please allow me to explain my assignment:
I had to describe the steps that they took, not necessarily explain those steps.
The textbook I had to go by said it was a milk carton. So, I said milk carton (Aerospace Science: A Journey Into Aviation History is my textbook if you would like to know/look at it). They were among the first to realize this; however, we did not go that far into depth as to that aspect. Wind tunnels as well were briefly mentioned in the book
no, i am, but i dont use it much because no one knows what rdn is anyway. sides, for this video i wanted all the timings to fit, as you can see most clearly in the bridge. the intro would likely have thrown that off...
yup. business as usual. my only regret is using the same instro i used in another vid, but that couldnt be helped. anyway, i disabled comments/ratings for the other vid. il prob take it down in a few days....
cool :)
jamie93520 1 year ago
@jamie93520 Thank you :D
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 1 year ago
The 1911 glider that I mention is at 1:33-note the absence of the horizontal rudder. As far as the milk carton. Milk was in bottles in 1899, the carton would come later. The story is legendary.
Just my opinion and FYI-their wind tunnel testing was a BIG factor towards eventual success. They didn't invent the airfoil, they did however understand how shape (camber) affected performance, ie lift/drift(drag) this was a direct result of the wind tunnel testing.
warp13 2 years ago
Ok, thank you for pointing that out. As you may notice from some of my other videos, I am more into modern aircraft than the older ones, and therefore do not normally pay much attention to them. And I did not know that about the milk carton....
Oh snap. I did not realize that is what is implied by my video. I know that they did not invent it.....hope I do not lose points for that....
As for the wind tunnel testing, it was pretty important. Without it they'd be trying to find the best full size
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
No, your point is very clear, it was obvious about the milk carton, I was refering to the story of Wilbur and the bicycle inner tube box.
Exactly, credit should be paid to George Spratt,who was doing some wind tunnel testing of his own-he gave them tables that showed CP travel for different cambered surfaces. Anyway-a pleasure discussing the Wrights
warp13 2 years ago
Oh, ok. I see what you're talking about. And Mr. Spratt wasn't even mentioned in my book (yes, it is a bit lacking in some areas). And a pleasure discussing this too. Normally what I get is "it's a plane, so what?"....nice to talk with someone who knows about aircraft.
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
wing design out of hundreds.
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
A few things to note: The box kite that Wilbur used was not like the one you show. It was not a milk carton, it was a bicycle inner tube box. The CP will naturally go forward on a cambered surface as you decrease the Aof A to a certain point, then it goes backwards. The Wrights were one of the first to realize this.
You don't mention anything about their wind tunnel testing which revised Smeaton and gave them more efficient wings. The glider you show as 1902 is from 1911.
warp13 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment. But please allow me to explain my assignment:
I had to describe the steps that they took, not necessarily explain those steps.
The textbook I had to go by said it was a milk carton. So, I said milk carton (Aerospace Science: A Journey Into Aviation History is my textbook if you would like to know/look at it). They were among the first to realize this; however, we did not go that far into depth as to that aspect. Wind tunnels as well were briefly mentioned in the book
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
, and therefore I did not mention them. And thank you for pointing that out...which glider? Could you please tell me the time it appears in? Thanks.
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
but no RDN intro?
dinklebobmcdummy 2 years ago
i dont use the intro for school projects...
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
that must suck... ur not allowed to use it?
dinklebobmcdummy 2 years ago
no, i am, but i dont use it much because no one knows what rdn is anyway. sides, for this video i wanted all the timings to fit, as you can see most clearly in the bridge. the intro would likely have thrown that off...
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
good point.
dinklebobmcdummy 2 years ago
now this is more like wat u do eagle!
dinklebobmcdummy 2 years ago
yup. business as usual. my only regret is using the same instro i used in another vid, but that couldnt be helped. anyway, i disabled comments/ratings for the other vid. il prob take it down in a few days....
15Eagle22Raptor35JSF 2 years ago
1st viewer
iamsoawesome1000 2 years ago