General Petreaus Clobbers Senator Levin

[oncevatan1920]

fuck petreaus

[emtpilot132]

did petreauses leadership kill your insurgent buddies?  im so sorry...

[BODYGUARDEAGLE]

lt5lee- YEP...you said it. that would be the way to get them to 'understand'

[genpershing]

The day Levin says that is the day the Clintons have him killed.

[witbred]

stay in iraq until they can handle their own country

[gismotech]

great job

[dianapatriot11]

How true.

[Lungyao1]

Ge out of Iraq!

[Robv6061]

Yea...Get out of Iraq and invade Darfur...Or Pakistan..Real smart.

[Lungyao1]

No, dont invade anything else.

[Robv6061]

So just leave Iraq in chaos?

[Lungyao1]

Its already chaos, Yes! Leave them to theirselves! We overthrew their goverment Saddam is dead. Get out of Iraq! They will stabalize themselves. Stop making excuses to kill more people. Get out! Our presence there is whats causing all the chaos now.

[Robv6061]

Our pressence isn't causing it, certain factions want total control of the country, We are there to help stabalize the young government. We can eventually withdraw troops, but you must understand that we aren't causing it, we are helping to stabalize it

[Lungyao1]

OK you have to admitt that we are only helping to stabalize Iraq because WE DESTABALIZED Iraq to begin with. Now its time to get out. The Iraqi people can take care of themselves.

[Robv6061]

Ok...Let's just say that for the sake of aurgument that when we deposed a murderous dictator, who was hated by his people, we destabalized iraq. Let's just assume you are right (I don't agree) Don't we then have an obligation to help them clean up our mess? We go in, destabalize it, help bring free elections, then leave when factions want to take over.

[Lungyao1]

The only obligation we should have to Iraq is sending them money. The same money we spend out there on our trrops should be given to The Iraqi people to do as they see fit. If they need more just give them Israels cut. You have to be brainwashed to think that Iraq was in the same state that its in right now before our invasion.

[Robv6061]

So we send the walfare? Do we continue to send them welfare payments when a fundamentalist government takes control?

[Lungyao1]

WE are the reason for the destruction of their country! WTF! YES! Iraq deserves "Welfare" as you call it for Decades to come. That is only fair!and the LEAST we could do for Iraq! I guess then, that would make the money we send Israel "welfare" too huh?

[Robv6061]

The least we can do is to ensure that they have a stable government. It's so funny the way you libs think that all we have to do is throw money at the problem and ti will get fixed. That is the dumbest think I have heard so far. We have given billions and billions dollars to Africa, has that solved their probelms?

[Lungyao1]

Afica? We give 10 times more money to Israel! Look how many people there are in Africa. Your argument is baseless. The dumbest thing I've heard is that people still beleive that WE can ensure them a table goverment. It's been over 3 years! Where is Iraq's goverment stable?

[Robv6061]

Do know how many years passed between the end of the revolutionary war, the constitutional convention, and ratification? 3 years is nothing. Factions want control, and in the middle is a government that was elected by the people. What statistic can you site to prove that we "give" 10 times more money to Isreal then to Africa? Not true at all

[Lungyao1]

No that statisctic is not true. Its more than10 percent I just went low side with it. Research and look it up for yourself. 3 years is not alot though. I'll give you that much. Although the Revolutionary war, the constitutional convention and ratification are events that were dealt with by Americans for american (for the most part) not Imposed by a foreing power. Again your arguments are baseless.

[Robv6061]

We got rid of Saddam. Everything else was by will of the Iraqi people. They elected their own government, drew up their own constitution, and are in the slow process of keeping peace. Can you name for me one country in transition, from dictatorship, to democracy that was stable in such a short period of time? We didn't impose a government for them, we allowed it to happen

[Lungyao1]

WE put those goverments in place, Aghganastan and Iraq. The "People" voted for those we put in place to vote for. I cannot answere your question about the dictatorship to democracy transition, But I would like for you to examine your last statement. "WE allowed it to happen"..........

[Robv6061]

We allowed it to happen. Yes. We provided the framework and they did the rest. The majority of people there want freedom, the religoius nuts don't. They are gonna do whatever they see fit to make sure that the people don't have freedom. That is the problem over there right now.