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  • The last thing this country needs is the federal government running health care. Know anyone who uses the VA system? I do and they're passionate about their stance against the govt option.

    Regardless of what anyone thinks, if the federal govt can't run or fully finance the existing entitlement programs, what makes anyone think they can run another in the midst of a $2 trillion dollar deficit and many trillions more in public debt?

  • NO WE DON'T! Reform what we have first. Too much extra mess stuffed in these thousands of pages of unread, not understood bills!

  • anything is better than the status quo, if there's a problem with the single payer system or the public option, will be easier to fix than keep the actual situation, there is people dying because they have no coverage! have you been in the emergency room, if you are no bleeding, they not treat you! and the first thing they ask is for your insurance coverage! this can not be the american way! wake out people! the fox network have you under a spell!

  • don't beleive this coward

  • I have been a nurse for a long time and the insurance companies DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU. I have seen many people who have insurance get dropped because they were diagnosed with cancer,and the insurance companies deem it a pre-exsisting condition. These Insurance companies also do this with woman having problems with pregnancy....dropped for a pre exsisting condition as well.WAKE UP WE NEED A PUBLIC OPTION.

  • @dagger4ureye

    Yes, people really need to wake up to the greed of the health insurance companies. They only want to take money from those who will never use it. Gee, who wouldn't want to run that scam!

  • I see many lies on this page starting with biggie440 who says this provides for illegal citizens..wrong wrong wrong

  • Robby Scott Hill is for the public option!

  • Government grants should be eliminated to fund a new program for the small minority that are uncovered - if you agree spread the word.

  • Put HR676 in your windows NOW to support medicaid for ALL

  • Name one government-run program that has been successful and effective...

  • Name one capitalist program that hasn't taken someone's land, made someone a slave, left people hungry and homeless, and broken up the family.

  • That's what I thought...

  • It would depend on one's level of successful and effective. Fire departments are very successful and effective. Police departments are mostly successful and effective, the public defender, mostly successful and effective, teachers and schools very successful mostly effective, social security very s&e, medicaid for the poor, very s, mostly e all programs need to provide more, and once we are not competing with private, we should be able to. We can always petition for tweaks to system.

  • social security is going bankrupt...i likely will not see any of the money that is taken from my paycheck every week when i am old enough to collect...with the public option, it's rationed care, meaning, they can only serve a limited amount of people or quotas...and also, it will provide for 10 million or so illegal citizens who do not pay for taxes but yet still will receive benefits somehow

  • Gosh, the military, post office, police and fire departments, colleges

    Sure wish we hadn't spent trillions on terrorizing

    such backward countries like Iraq or Afghanistan

    or any of the other countries we bombed the carp

    out of - like they needed more destruction

    but "mistakes were made"

    So lets not screw this one up!

  • Parks, Libraries, Police, Firefighters, EMS, etc.

    Pull your head out of your ass you fucking rightist death-mongerer.

  • @biggie440 Private insurance fails, considering 45,000 people die each year without it and 14,000 drop it per day because they can't afford it. If the average person had to pay for their insurance themselves, they'd have to pay on average $525.00 to $600.00 per month and its going up. Thats why people with no jobs, jobs that don't carry insurance and part time workers have to pay. Did you know that? Now i'll turn it around for you. How many government services charge $500 to $600/month?

  • Stop lying about the facts of Obamacare.If this bill passes I will not be able to see the physicians that I so desperately need.The govt demands I signup for there plan or I will be penalized if I dont (taxed). The govt will dictate what procedures I need not my physician.Illegal Aliens will be provided better care (FREE) than law abiding tax paying citizens of the US of America.Last but not least we will have zero choice & large amounts of taxes to pay for another inefficient govt run agency.

  • Sherman college teaches this.learn only upper cervical specific only not diversified, full spine or mixer techniques.

    learn Duff Method a way of measuring changes in the patients progress.incorporate Tytron infrared scanner. Duff Method takes the wavy lines on the graph and, superimposes them on a graph that represents the 24 vertebra. He-she can track your progress with precision. He calls them constants.

  • We need upper cervical specific. They can be in pediatric care, for athletes, mental patients; upcspine, thespecific. Even aids patients have been helped. The beginnings of a problem can begin with a traumatic birth. A U, C, S can precisely determine if whoever needs their care or not. Waiting for a problem is not a wise thing to do. Doing so will end up costing you more money and, time. Going sooner can help you get better than you would otherwise think. Think preventative balance the body.

  • How can the United States justify 47 million Americans without health insurance? How many homes have been lost related to health care costs? I have a friend who was without health care for four years after having been treated for breast cancer. She lost her job and her benefits. Fortunately for her, she survived without insurance because there wasn't a recurrence of the hated disease. How much stress was she living under during that time? She is now on Medicare and can get help and medication.

  • Yes, the US is behind Costa Rica when it comes to providing health care for all its citizens. Anyone who questions the "methods" of the WHO based on the irrelevant issue of Americans traveling to the countries ranked ahead of it isn't too bright.

  • Unfortunately, we spend way too much on people who should be eased out of this world with dignity instead of held on to with chains and wires.

  • are you referring to our soldiers?

  • @johnfetchko I have two soldiers in my immediate family. 5 brothers and sisters who are veterans. 3 of us combat. We are all liberals. My sons says the cowardly rightwingers were the reasons they had to go back to Irag on 3 and 4 tours of duty. While the young republican who supported the war, wouldn't sign up and take their place. They say the rightwingers are their enemies.

  • 81: Average percentage of those who survive a diagnosis of prostate cancer in the United States versus 43% in Britain under their National Health Service.

  • The only hope—for the doctors, for their patients, for all of us—is for the doctors to assert a moral principle. I mean: to assert their own personal individual rights—their real rights in this issue—their right to their lives, their liberty, their property, their pursuit of happiness. The Declaration of Independence applies to the medical profession too. We must reject the idea that doctors are slaves destined to serve others at the behest of the state.

  • But the fact is: You don't abolish charity by calling it something else. If a person is getting health care for nothing, simply because he is breathing, he is still getting charity, whether or not any politician, lobbyist or activist calls it a "right." To call it a Right when the recipient did not earn it is merely to compound the evil. It is charity still—though now extorted by criminal tactics of force, while hiding under a dishonest name.

  • Why only these? Observe that all legitimate rights have one thing in common: they are rights to action, not to rewards from other people. The American rights impose no obligations on other people, merely the negative obligation to leave you alone. The system guarantees you the chance to work for what you want—not to be given it without effort by somebody else.

  • Now our only rights, the American viewpoint continues, are the rights to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness. That's all. According to the Founding Fathers, we are not born with a right to a trip to Disneyland, or a meal at McDonald's, or a kidney dialysis (nor with the 18th-century equivalent of these things). We have certain specific rights—and only these.

  • What is morality in this context? The American concept of it is officially stated in the Declaration of Independence. It upholds man's unalienable, individual rights. The term "rights," note, is a moral (not just a political) term; it tells us that a certain course of behavior is right, sanctioned, proper, a prerogative to be respected by others, not interfered with—and that anyone who violates a man's rights is: wrong, morally wrong, unsanctioned, evil.

  • how can it be an option and be "public"? if it is not supported by taxes, it is private, is it not? we don't have an option not to pay our taxes.

  • I DON'T want Public Option. I want Single Payer.

    Public Option is a pacifier - it doesn't solve the problem of health care in America.

    I know it's all we'll get -- so - we need to insist on NO TRIGGERS!!

    *

  • Look guys... I don't want it. Can you at least not subsidize the public option and let me opt out?

    I mean this whole forcing me to take your gov't program thing is f'd up.

  • I don't think you understand the word "option". Option is optional, not mandatory.If you don't want it - fine. You don't have to take it. But PLEASE don't take this option away from those who will gladly take it.

  • I don't think you understand the word mandatory. The gov't plan will be subsidized with my money. That part will be mandatory. I cannot chose to not pay. It will be taken from me by force.

    Your beloved ideology is archaic, tyrannical, and down right mean. There is no "progress" in forcing people into obeying you.

  • We all pay taxes so we all benefit. What's "down right mean" is the idea that some people should be able to health care and some should not.

  • This isn't a very good ad. Negative campaigns require a direct connection between the person and the undesirable attribute. This ad fails to have a constant negative association. If I were to tune in after the note about companies funding senators I would just see the names of people the ad intended to hurt. This provides those individuals with increased name recognition for free.

    Also even seeing the whole ad it is unlikely I would take note of all of the names and vote against them.

    FYI

  • What about those who grew up in such-and-such a family-and spent their whole lives fucking around and then got off the bottle & the blow long enough to become president?

  • and you know, you should really quit deciding the way things are and the way people are.

    Sure, some people can start with nothing and become successful. Those people have to sacrifice years of their lives to work-they have no time for ANYTHING. Thats why a lot of kids grow up with no parenting-because mom & dad are always at work, or school.

    I think the people who are spoiled are the corporations who dominate the world-and seem to think they make all their money by themselves. They don't.

  • I didn't ask my parents. They encouraged me to. I was busting my ass all the time at low paying jobs, just trying to pay my rent. Forget benefits. Forget extra money, forget spare time. My life was work. I didn't complain, I got no government assistance. I was a smart, and able bodied young man.

    That is whats wrong with this country. Young guys like me used to be able to make a living. Now because its all about corporate profits-my employer rips me off first-and they do it way worse than gov.

  • I was not referring to Obama's plan. I was referring to one of your previous ridiculous comment stating that Canadians and Europeans are lazy because their governments subsidies costs for basic health care.

  • Having the government subsidies the cost of basic health care makes you lazy? LMAO

    Do you realize how many children don't have access to adequate health care? Are you so bold to go far enough to call these children lazy?

    && what of the many people who slave day in and day out working minimum wage jobs who support their families but still can not afford health care. Are these people considered lazy in your eyes as well?

    Your comments are filled with ignorance and are borderline comical.

  • No, I'm 26 and in good health. I'm going to school right now and Im not even using financial aid. My family did a good job saving money. My family believes in taking care of others. They can AFFORD to pay taxes.

    You people and your fucking "wallets". Maybe if you had a little more IN them you wouldn't be so fucking concerned.

    Seriously-what kind of loser cries over their tax dollars?

    Thats pretty much just the inverse of someone who expects the gov to take care of them. Loser.

  • Damn America SNAP OUT OF IT ALREADY!!

    WE ARE THE LEAST HEALTHY OF ALMOST ANY INDUSTRIALIZED NATION! 36th IN THE WORLD! YET WE HAVE THE BIGGEST ECONOMY!

    Look at what regular people from all these other "socialist" countries are trying to tell us here!

    They're not gonna force you to have gov healthcare. Do they force you to get welfare instead of a paycheck? Do they force you to be a mailman instead of a business owner?

    Come on, quit being ridiculous, and quit being fucking barbaric.

  • they force you to pay taxes

  • 37: The health care ranking assigned to the U.S. by the World Health Organization among the worlds countries. This oft-quoted number is used to justify an overhaul of the U.S. health care system...

  • and lists countries like Italy (2), Andorra (4), Malta (5), Singapore (6), Oman (8), Portugal (12), Greece (14), the United Kingdom (18), Ireland (19), Columbia (22), Cyprus (24), Saudi Arabia (26), the UAE (27), Morocco (29), Canada (30), Chile (33), the Dominican Republic (35) and Costa Rica (36) ahead. Considering that no U.S. citizens travel to these countries when experiencing a life-threatening situation, its worth questioning the methods by which the WHO arrived at these rankings.

  • Their criteria included subjective and political assessments such as Fairness in financial contribution. Suffice it to say that the WHOs rankings are clearly fraudulent and are designed to influence U.S. policy.

  • Actually, Farrah Fawcett flew to Germany for cancer treatment. Without that treatment she'd have died much earlier. I being of duel citizenship drove to Canada for eye surgery. Waiting here would have take 2 wks. I waited two days in Canada. The "stats" produced by propagandists are given to right wing talk radio and funded by Insurance cos. It's been effective propaganda, which is why so few Americans leave for help elsewhere.

  • do you know japan has the #1 life expectancy on earth? you should do your research on what kind of healthcare programs they have, as well as other countries who have a higher life expectancy than the US.... LIKE CUBA.

  • The fact that my government cares enough for it's citizens to fund basic health care doesn't make me lazy.

  • socialism? wtf? haha..yeah, and like how tax payers pay policemen's, firemen's etc salaries.....aghhhh socialism!!..haha ruuuunn... thats priceless

  • i live in canada.

    i have never received a bill for any health related (excluding dental) issue. i lived in england when i was young. i saw the doctor for free there too.

    i personally find it sort of barbaric when a society will not allow basic health benefits to even its poorest citizens. do you wanna live next to sick people?

    gimpydwarf is right.

    americans are getting fucked when it comes to their personal health.

    (i like that word)

  • i like the phrase "americans are getting fucked" too! i like things straight, and to the point. socialist pig dogs.....

  • I wish people would listen to people like you.

    We are so stupid about it here, people think it means the government is gonna take away their good healthcare and give them shitty healthcare. That would be like the government taking your job and forcing you to be a mailman or something.

    And you're right-it's just flat out BARBARIC.

    "Why should I have to spend my tax dollars on someone else's health."

    Ha. Because you're a human BEING, maybe! And probably a "Christian" too.

  • insurance companies have somehow managed to patent and sell our health and inalienable right of life back to us at the highest price they can, and they still manage to not pay for the treatments patients actually need, or drop paying customers for getting sick or requiring what they view as too much attention.. It's inhuman. Imagine your house is on fire, and the fire trucks show up and ask for your credit card or insurance policy before they can turn the water on. What savages we must be.

  • The Government is involved in every facet of your life. Who you marry, How you live, how you raise your kids, what you do for recreation, what you do in the privacy of your bedroom. They can even take our children and kill them in artificially created wars. Yet for some reason they want to stay out of the one thing we all have. Our Health.

    As Americans, we should have a right to free public health care. Good health care saves money in the long run.

    Jerry Monfort

    Glendale, Arizona

  • The FUCK are you talking about?

  • I can see by your profile you are only 23 years old. Maybe when you grow up you will understand what the adults are talking about.

  • Yeah lets go after my age. Very mature of you, mr "adult".

    The government doesnt control who I marry, or how I live, or how I will raise my kids, or what I do for recreation. You are a brainwashed zombie if you think otherwise.

    Wake up, you fucking idiot.

  • Your repeated use of the "F" work shows the level of your maturity. Maybe after you've spend 30 years building a business, raising children, paying a mortgage, only to lose everything to doctor's bills after a heart attack you will have a little more wisdom. I was diagnosed with Lupus at 21 y.o. I have been turned down for insurance my entire adult life (at any cost). The passion of your youth is being spent in the wrong direction. Try looking at the big picture (if you a capable of seeing it).

  • "The government doesnt control who I marry"= try marrying a person of the same sex in most of America.

    "or how I will raise my kids,"= They just ordered a woman to medically treat her kid against her wishes.

    "or what I do for recreation"= try smoking a joint in public almost anywhere in America.

    Open your eyes and look around. You are buying into the insurance company propaganda. The Government can and should provide health care to it's citizens.

  • Oops-I accidentally gave you thumbs down because of the first sentence of your argument. I thought I knew where you were going with it. Shows my attention span.

    So I agree-and I'm glad you're not like so many of the vindictive assholes here in Maricopa County.

    Just remember-gov is people, and people are not perfect. The idea of government started because people needed protection-and to work together. Maybe some of us can live in the wild on our own and defend ourselves, but most of us can't.

  • NO to a government plan!

  • Why.?

    Have you been listening to the corporate health shills on Fox or something?

  • President Nixon came up with a private plan with Kaiser. They wanted to make more money by keeping people sick. That was the plan.

  • Nixon's plan was corrupt from the start. We need to learn from that, and move on. That is how we grow and evolve as a society. We should Not give up on the idea completely. I would rather have the government between me and my doctor then an insurance company with their eye on the bottom line. There will alway be a private option also available. You can Bank on that.

  • FU you ignorant fool.

  • insurance is a scam tar and feather them and run them out of town

  • I signed up but it's not really a very strong commercial if you ask me. It has no PEOPLE in it!

  • America is run by corporate interests.  They buy congress through lobbying. They buy the public through stock purchases. Everyone is afraid of losing power or pension if they take on corporate interests. If you want change, this must be addressed.

  • we nneeeed more comments!

  • Thank you. Is this the top of the roster, or a random sampling?

    If the news media would post the amount of money a politician took from the lobbies whenever they are speaking on the issue on camera, it would improve our laws.

  • FINALLY!!!!! Let's start calling out the people who are blocking such important legislation that, for once, has the support of most Americans, regardless of party affiliation.

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