@simok97 well for your information iran is not a new country like "finland".. if you knew a single bit of history you would know that iran (persia) is more than 7000 years old and still standing.
btw you are still celebrating our independence from another country so shut the fuck up!
@ahriman46 Well, we are young and better than arabs. We are proud of our independence day. Go hate on Sweden instead. BTW Sweden has been around since the 14th century, maybe even longer and still celebrate their independence day which is June 6th. Now fuck off and go suck Ahab the Arab's dick and leave our beautiful country alone.
@ahriman46 What's the difference between arab and fucking persian? And we get money from WOOD. No we're not dumb. And we have one of the strongest air forces in the world. Arabs are really dumb...
@gashiluan i'm quite sure our german leopard 2a4s, swedish cv90s, russian bmp-2s etc etc are at least as important as your f-18 fighters....and i mean no disrespect to you but i'm sure it's us finnish soldiers who really matter more than any of your equipment.
@gashiluan You play your part in the US and we buy your fighters. Don't you worry. BTW I belive we fought alone in all the Finnish wars, doncha think?
F-22 eli Raptor ei ole edes Brittien käytössä, eikä Jenkit aijo julkasta niiden asejärjestelmää kenellekkään. Se kuulemma pystyy ampumaan ohjuksella takana lentävään koneeseen ja tehty haastamaan venäläinen SU-47. Sit on vielä F-35, joka on vielä kehitys ja koekäyttöasteella.
F-22 eli Raptor ei ole edes Brittien käytössä, eikä Jenkit aijo julkasta niiden asejärjestelmää kenellekkään. Se kuulemma pystyy ampumaan ohjuksella takana lentävään koneeseen ja tehty haastamaan venäläinen SU-47
@mrmakemakkara jahas... milläs perustein? Suomalaisilla eipä oikein tahdo olla tuota taistelu kokemusta jota taas löytyy USAlta ja muilta libya kriisiin osallistuneet... Myös venäjän lentäjillä on taistelukokemusta georgian yhteydessä...
@Qlasettaja Eiköhän tuo F-18, F22, F35, ja EF Typhoon voita migisi ja sukhoisi aika selvästi. Että mene jonnekkin muualle niitä neukkulafantasioitasi pyörittelemään. Ja sinun puolueellista sanaa nyt ei usko kukaan :D
@Qlasettaja Täytyy tosin myöntää että Sukhoi 35 (jos muistan oikein) on erinomainen kone. Hyvin verrattavissa F 18/A:han. Mutta minun mielestäni Suomen tulisi itse tuottaa aseita, eikä niinkään ostaa niitä muilta. Tuonti on aina pahasta, vienti on aina hyvästä ;)
@madurpo mutta ei se oo sanottua ettäkö suomi tilais F35 JSF koneita. varteenotettava vaihtoehto on myös ranskan dassault rafale, mikäli sikäli niitä on sillon viel kaupan.
I agree. We have a long history together. We have bought weaponry from sweden for the last 19:th century. Hell the Finnish air force emblem was a tribute to a swedish count, no matter that the swastika was adopted by one Adolf Hitler a couple decades later. And now that their government decides to buy the Finnish AMV there is a huge uproar. Typical swedish. :)
Ei meidän budjetilla nyt ainakaan tehdä mitään super ilmavoimia... Ja suomen maastossa on muutenkin aika käyttökelvoton sillä pusikkoon on vaikea tähdätä ilmasta...
Mutta jos viitsisit vähänkin sivistää omaa tietopankkiasi nyky historialla, huomaisit heti että Israel ei ole vain taistellut eniten sotia, vaan myös saavuttanut eniten näillä sodilla.
@SurviveMae It's more like "Russian is russian even if it's fried in butter" or something. That saying was very popular after WW2, you may know the reason ;)
It tries to say that you can't trust russian in any situation no matter what has happened (that's how I've understood it).
andersekap1: The deal was pushed by then minister of defence, Elisabeth Rehn whom I don't consider a real finn anyway. That's what you get when you let parasitic minorities in positions of power.
I am so glad we didnt buy the Jas Gripen (swedish wanna be 4th gen. F/A plane)which I suppose you are suggesting. Jas has one of the worst records in 4th gen F/A aircrafts ever. Plz search for Jas accident videos.
What do you meen "worst records" it had some problems with the fly-by-wire system(same manufacurer as the f-22) in its childhood. According to all my data its one of the mosts if not the most reliable aircraft out there today.
I am so glad we didnt buy the Jas Gripen (swedish wanna be 4th gen. F/A plane)which I suppose you are suggesting. Jas has one of the worst records in 4th gen F/A aircrafts ever. Plz search for Jas accident videos.
F-18C/D is 4th generation. It won the contest between other 4th generation multirole fighters. The Finnish version includes ALQ-165 and the better APG-73 radar. It was in fact a very good decision because of future upgrades such as JHMCS + AIM-9X combination, AN/AAR-50, AN/AAS-38 NITE Hawk FLIR and other advanced features that certain neighbouring countries could only dream of, esp. with their current budget cuts.
F-18 is a 4th generation fighter. You probably meant 4.5 generation in your rants, didn't you? You look quite stupid now, don't you?
Besides what does the generation have to do with anything? It's more about the pilot. Here's something for you to watch. See how the old and aged F-18A and B models maneuver in skilled hands:
That video said shit about it's performance, you dont think the blue angels have a "better" F-18 that suits their specific task. For instance, they have much better engines (more power). Still thinks the Gripen would ride eights around the standard f-18.
According to the FAQ found at Blue Angels website, their F-18s are standard. They have the cannon removed, a smoke-oil tank installed and one spring installed on the stick, thats all. F-18 has better thrust/weight ratio than Gripen. Maybe you should consider that, before saying a Gripen can outperform an F-18.
Super Hornet has two 98kN engines. If Gripen gets one of those it will have the maximum thrust of 98kN. The Finnish F-18 (soon F/A-18) has 160kN of maximum thrust, as it has two engines.
One of the Swedish Air-force's requirements was that the aircraft must be able to land on and take-off from a normal road. So the Gripen was designed to be small, light and maneuverable at the cost of payload. That's one way to do it....
....Another way is to get a US Navy fighter that has already been tested in real combat, that has lower unit cost than Gripen, that has better thrust/weight ratio than Gripen, can take-off from a shorter runway than Gripen (with heavier payload) and land on a shorter runway than Gripen ever could
Have googled 4th gen, and it seems that what is and is not a 4th gen fighter is up to the manufacturer. Can't find a good answer what you need to fullfil to be 4th or 5th gen.
All I know is that SAAB says that the gripen is the first 4th gen in service.
Ever heard about finnish wars? we had nothing, it's the willpower that wins in wars. Of course you don't know anything about modern wars cause you're from chicken-Sweden.
BTW. Sweden gives less money for the army. In future, you have nothing but don't worry, we'll save your worry asses again.
Yeah...I forgot when Finns talk about modern wars they are still back in the 1930-40s. But thats OK, your equipment would have done a great job back in the day. ;)
It says in BRITISH document:"Finland have the most succesful wars in world's modern war history", then they listed casualities and costs. You're so fucking dumb cause you don't know that "Modern" can mean age from WW1 to Modern age IF we're looking with bigger perspective.
Ok. I can't call you stupid. We have the best school system in the world(check google) + top students and + have the PISA-title, So it would be unfair to judge you cause our superiority
Nice vid... Finnish airgroups:) Sorry my bad english. Other 3world nations try they change....... but if we done some great military country(finland group)...... We from in finland..... And the russia you make kill you self......
This hornet is from that airbase near Kuopio. Airbase is called Rissala and the squadron sign Lynx on the front tells where its from. Lynx is the "logo" of Fighter Squadron 31 based at Rissala.
emm are u like dunbor sumtin because my brother is a guerilla an he is pretty much in our governments controll. and may i ask that where are you from?
From Finland but more acurate word for Sissi is Ranger, cause Guerilla forces is often used from fighters like taliban etc. U know what I mean right:D Maybe better in finnish elikkä sama suomeks eli haen tuolla sitä että Ranger on oikeampi nimitys sissi joukoille koska yleensä ottaen Guerilla tarkoittaa vastarintataistelijaa joka ei ole ns valtion alainen. Ja sry jos olin epäkohtelias:D
ei se mitn ja miun englannin kielen yaidot on yli keskiverron mut joten tajusin englanniksi mut tulee kirjotusvirheit joskus. mut ei se miun mielest oikee sovi niitä sanoo rangereiks englannin kielel tosin
lol we shoul not buy those stupid fighters if russia attacks wel won't win them with thecnology we win them with land forses and espessially guerillas
That was the "lazy" solo program I think. There is a faster paced air show program aswell that was flown in some other airshow. Maybe Jyväskylä 2001. Nevertheless, nice plane, nice airfield and nice finnish crowd :)
That is the truth. This is "lazy" solo compared for example russian Suhoi and Mig stars. I think that Hornet can perform better, but finnish pilots cannot do it!
I meant that was lazy program for a Hornet... I've seen it perform much better with another finnish pilot elsewhere. (also seen the Swifts which were magnificent too) But as F-18's are in operational use (and expensive) they don't want to risk them at airshows.
You are alright. Finland has now only 63 Hornets (1 crashed after collision with another). I suggest that finnish airmen are not exactly training for airshow displays but for maintaining air superiority over skies of Finland.
I think so too.. doing well in airshow is quite irrelevant in case of war. But anyways, didnt that one finnish pilot, captain Siivola win RIAT air show thing...or do i remember wrong.
Suomi! It's sad I have Finnish heritage, and nobody here in the states knows anything about Finland. They think Nokia is Japanese. There is that "HIM" band, but theyre terrible.
i can understand that!dont ya know your avionics,man?last year was a competition,with fighter pilots around the globe with their own planes.and,what country won?i rest my case:)
Best pilots since 1918. Even the Brewster "flying coffin" buffalo was real fighter in finnish hands, 432 air victories. You should read more about "Ilmavoimat" from wikipedia, if you are a bit interested about the subject.
Good camera work! The Swiss and Finnish pilots give the best performances with the wonderful F 18!!
greetenmax 2 months ago
You guys should have chosen SAAB Gripen instead. When you have a friendly supplier right beside you, there was no need for the Hornet.
Saffronwing1 2 months ago
What was Ari Kaihlanen intellectual achievment to deserve a copyright for this video?
NIL. Holding a camera at an object is not deserving a copyright.
chrzim7 7 months ago in playlist Hävittäjä-videot
finland has an airforce? LMAO
ahriman46 9 months ago
@ahriman46 Are Iran a country? LMAO
simok97 9 months ago
@simok97 well for your information iran is not a new country like "finland".. if you knew a single bit of history you would know that iran (persia) is more than 7000 years old and still standing.
btw you are still celebrating our independence from another country so shut the fuck up!
ahriman46 9 months ago
@ahriman46 Well, we are young and better than arabs. We are proud of our independence day. Go hate on Sweden instead. BTW Sweden has been around since the 14th century, maybe even longer and still celebrate their independence day which is June 6th. Now fuck off and go suck Ahab the Arab's dick and leave our beautiful country alone.
simok97 9 months ago
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ahriman46 9 months ago
@ahriman46 What's the difference between arab and fucking persian? And we get money from WOOD. No we're not dumb. And we have one of the strongest air forces in the world. Arabs are really dumb...
simok97 9 months ago
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ahriman46 9 months ago
@ahriman46 We produce Hornets, Hawks etc.. You sir my ugly ass arab, fail! Now GTFO my face.
simok97 9 months ago
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ahriman46 9 months ago
@ahriman46 Well has Mr Arab ever heard of JOINT PRODUCING? Jeez... >.<
simok97 8 months ago
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ahriman46 8 months ago
@simok97 Nonii ja sitte lopetat ton huuhaa puhumisen... Ei tarvitse koko kansaa nolata...
Opuliskii 3 months ago
and that means?:)
JoelHjortstad 9 months ago
no onneks nua hornetit muutetaan edes nyt monitoimi hävittäjiksi että pystytään maahankin pommittaaa
lallijorma 11 months ago
@lallijorma
Mistäs tällaista olet kuullut?
olisko lähdettä heittää?
macgyver112 11 months ago
@lallijorma
Eipäs mitään sittenkään, googlettamalla löysin.
Oli aikakin, onhan se naurettavaa, että hävittäjä ei pysty edes maahan ampumaan.
macgyver112 11 months ago
If it wasnt for USA there wouldnt be a Finland... it would be Rusland. . Keep buying those US jets and Russians will run for their life.
gashiluan 11 months ago
@gashiluan Nope. Typhoon Eurofighter is much better
Scandinavian92 11 months ago
@Scandinavian92 Eurofighter Typhoon, Jas Gripen, F-18, MiG-29, Dassault Rafale all of them are very good and useful aircrafts
MrSuurijohtaja 9 months ago
@gashiluan yea right US lost war in Vietnam they are nothing but a load of bullshit comments my morons
CarbonDioxide1990 10 months ago
@gashiluan i'm quite sure our german leopard 2a4s, swedish cv90s, russian bmp-2s etc etc are at least as important as your f-18 fighters....and i mean no disrespect to you but i'm sure it's us finnish soldiers who really matter more than any of your equipment.
balticwater 9 months ago
@gashiluan You play your part in the US and we buy your fighters. Don't you worry. BTW I belive we fought alone in all the Finnish wars, doncha think?
simok97 9 months ago
F-22 eli Raptor ei ole edes Brittien käytössä, eikä Jenkit aijo julkasta niiden asejärjestelmää kenellekkään. Se kuulemma pystyy ampumaan ohjuksella takana lentävään koneeseen ja tehty haastamaan venäläinen SU-47. Sit on vielä F-35, joka on vielä kehitys ja koekäyttöasteella.
timyfin 11 months ago
F-22 eli Raptor ei ole edes Brittien käytössä, eikä Jenkit aijo julkasta niiden asejärjestelmää kenellekkään. Se kuulemma pystyy ampumaan ohjuksella takana lentävään koneeseen ja tehty haastamaan venäläinen SU-47
timyfin 11 months ago
F-18 still best fighter after F-22!
timyfin 11 months ago
Suomi tarttee eufightereit
TheDiscsOfPr0n 1 year ago
Styr mot Ryssland..släpp en bomb stor bomb
Finland1965 1 year ago
KYLLÄ SUOMALAINEN HÄVITTÄJÄLENTÄJÄ ON HUIPPU LUOKKAA
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
Type HERE: " Mirage 2000 - G Force "
MAXOU10428 1 year ago
kyllä suomalainen hävittäjälentäjä ja lentäjät ovat huippuluokkaa
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
quite a few G:s there. :)
KekkonenKalasti 1 year ago
Kyllä ne jenkit vaa niitä koneita osaa tehdä. Suomen ois kannattanu mielummin hankkia f-15 hävittäjiä. Olis ollu paljo tyylikkäämpiä ja tappavampia.
hirvi93 1 year ago 3
@hirvi93 niinpä
FLS96 1 year ago
@hirvi93 Kyllä. Ei tekis pahaa jos ostais muutama F16.
simok97 9 months ago
@hirvi93 ei se mitään. hornetit poistetaan käytöstä 2016 kun hankitaan f-35
gethsoftware 2 months ago
@hirvi93 joku o selvästi lukenu mikkä erot o hyökkäyskoneissa ja hitaamis, t: pioneeri 1/95
maukotube 2 months ago
@hirvi93
Tämäkin kommentti kertoo taas siitä, ettet taida tajuta koneista mitään. Tottakai niitä koneita tehdään uusia ja aina vaan huonompia.
Trekker84 3 days ago
kauan eläköön suomen ilmavoimat
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
israelilaiset ja suomalaiset hävittäjälentäjät ovat maailuman parhaimpia
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago 2
@mrmakemakkara tai suomalaiset ainakin oli, toisessa maailmansodassa
TheHonkkis 1 year ago
@mrmakemakkara jahas... milläs perustein? Suomalaisilla eipä oikein tahdo olla tuota taistelu kokemusta jota taas löytyy USAlta ja muilta libya kriisiin osallistuneet... Myös venäjän lentäjillä on taistelukokemusta georgian yhteydessä...
Opuliskii 3 months ago
suomalaiset hävittäjälentäjat ovat huippu luokkaa
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
suomalaiset hävittäjälentäjät ja yleensä lentäjät ovat huippuluokkaa !!!!!
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
eiks suomel oo eurofighttereit?
barfumer 1 year ago
f-18 hornet pilot MP finnish air force
mrmakemakkara 1 year ago
Hyvin kuvattu.
hanhi 1 year ago
Pane joku punainen tähti lentokoneen ja katomme mitä tapahtuu.
Dolflu 1 year ago
Speak english seriosly. Your Finnish is so bad and learn some respect.
ameeba90 1 year ago
finnish air force pilot is best !!!!!!!!
mrmakemakkara 2 years ago
Amazing !!!
Meiskesfreak 2 years ago
kyllä f-18 hornet eli herhiläinen on mahtava kone
mrmakemakkara 2 years ago 3
joo kyllä hornetit on parempia kun nuo migit :P halpaa ryssäpaskaa ei suomeen kiitos
madurpo 2 years ago 4
@madurpo MIGit ja Sukhoit on kalliimpia kuin Hornetit, ja muistaakseni parempia.
Kyllä ryssäpaskasi voitti.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Ei kalliimpi aina meinaa parempaa...
DaBoomz13 1 year ago
@DaBoomz13 Ei niin, mutta laatu voittaa silti.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Eiköhän tuo F-18, F22, F35, ja EF Typhoon voita migisi ja sukhoisi aika selvästi. Että mene jonnekkin muualle niitä neukkulafantasioitasi pyörittelemään. Ja sinun puolueellista sanaa nyt ei usko kukaan :D
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago 2
@OnlyLifeMatters Sukhoii-37 ei voita.
Tollainen jenkki menee niin nopeaa romuksi että huhhuh.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Täytyy tosin myöntää että Sukhoi 35 (jos muistan oikein) on erinomainen kone. Hyvin verrattavissa F 18/A:han. Mutta minun mielestäni Suomen tulisi itse tuottaa aseita, eikä niinkään ostaa niitä muilta. Tuonti on aina pahasta, vienti on aina hyvästä ;)
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Aivan samaa mieltä. Oma sotateollisuus ei rajoitu kun vain ajoneuvoihin, tarkkuuskivääreihin, ja ammuksiin.
FINwarfare 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Anteeksi, Sukhoi 47 Berkut.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Vanhaa romua jo S-47 Berkutille tuo Hornet.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja
SU-47 on testikone ja siinä ei ollut edes asesysteemejä asennettuna. SU-37 projekti taas lopetettiin jo vuonna 2000.
Hornet pärjää mille tahansa venäläisten nykykoneelle.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
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madurpo 1 year ago
@MokomaSusi Mutta parinkymmenen vuoden päästä tilanne saattaa olla toinen. mutta silloin suomessa onkin jo varmaan F35A hävittäjiä
madurpo 1 year ago
@madurpo mutta ei se oo sanottua ettäkö suomi tilais F35 JSF koneita. varteenotettava vaihtoehto on myös ranskan dassault rafale, mikäli sikäli niitä on sillon viel kaupan.
mertentimo 1 year ago
@mertentimo itse olen ymmärtänyt, että jenkit ei myy f-35 kellekään muulle paitsi israelille. korjaa jos olen väärässä
Antero221 1 year ago
@Antero221
Briteille ja Norjalle menee ainakin.
Kukkonaama 1 year ago
@Kukkonaama no sitten oon sekottanu jonkun toisen konemallin kanssa. oisko se sit ollu f-22? :/
Antero221 1 year ago
@Antero221 F-22 ei taida mennä kellekkään muille paitsi jenkeille, itsellä ei oo varmaa tietoa..
Kukkonaama 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja S-47 oli niin epäkäytännöllinen, että se lopetettiin.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters x(
FLS96 1 year ago
@OnlyLifeMatters Ja miten Neuvostoliitto? Ihan Venäjä ei Neuvostoliitto nykyisin.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
hyvä kone toi hornet.onneks ajat muuttuu eikä tarvi mennä jollain migeillä enää.ja "ILLU" rulettaa,vaik onki jo edesmennyt.
zippinen 2 years ago
Jos tietäsit zippinen miten suomalsiset muutti hornetti paremmaks..moottorit ja plus muut systeemit...natolla vanhat systeemit...and that is true!
MrJape48 2 years ago
A very capable Air Force. Very professional.
deutschschoen 2 years ago 35
@deutschschoen yes and whit 12 airplanes and only 5 works :D
lianglonglong 1 year ago
@lianglonglong
12? Finland has actually 62 Hornets at moment.
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
@MokomaSusi Mitä minä olen kuullut niin niitä on 64.
MrSuurijohtaja 11 months ago
@lianglonglong Actualy 64 airplanes and every of them works. Was that a joke or do you think that Finland is under embargo?! :D
MrSuurijohtaja 11 months ago
finland&sweden ftw
Dadshome1234 2 years ago 6
I agree. We have a long history together. We have bought weaponry from sweden for the last 19:th century. Hell the Finnish air force emblem was a tribute to a swedish count, no matter that the swastika was adopted by one Adolf Hitler a couple decades later. And now that their government decides to buy the Finnish AMV there is a huge uproar. Typical swedish. :)
KekkonenKalasti 2 years ago 5
i luv finland, they r the best defense force ever. very advanced and sophisticated weaponry.
nighthawk050 2 years ago 10
I think Israel is out of the charts ;)
Spartan117FS 2 years ago
and US.
joove81 2 years ago
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Not really, no... Your army is one of the worst trained in the world, sorry to break it to you. You have the technology though.
Spartan117FS 2 years ago
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Kukkonaama 2 years ago 3
and what evidence do you base that upon? asshole
sonicskis 2 years ago
Ei meidän budjetilla nyt ainakaan tehdä mitään super ilmavoimia... Ja suomen maastossa on muutenkin aika käyttökelvoton sillä pusikkoon on vaikea tähdätä ilmasta...
Mutta jos viitsisit vähänkin sivistää omaa tietopankkiasi nyky historialla, huomaisit heti että Israel ei ole vain taistellut eniten sotia, vaan myös saavuttanut eniten näillä sodilla.
Spartan117FS 2 years ago
Well I think the audio could be better ;-)
NeoStiv 3 years ago
There is an old Finnish saying that says: Ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistaisi.
plasmis77 3 years ago 41
Wich means?
Agrikultur 2 years ago
"Russian is russian even though fried in butter"
Literal translation goes like that.
MokomaSusi 2 years ago 9
Well i got to give it to you, it's true! :)
Agrikultur 2 years ago
@plasmis77 And you're a racist.
FINwarfare 1 year ago
@plasmis77 Ryssä on ryssä. Ei valitettavasti voi muuttaa asiaa.
simok97 9 months ago
@plasmis77 WTF dose this really mean "Russians are Russians, although fried in butter" -source google translator
SurviveMae 8 months ago
@SurviveMae Yep. Correct.
qelleri 7 months ago
@SurviveMae It's more like "Russian is russian even if it's fried in butter" or something. That saying was very popular after WW2, you may know the reason ;)
It tries to say that you can't trust russian in any situation no matter what has happened (that's how I've understood it).
Zuomigundi 6 months ago
@Zuomigundi u r dam rith man
eatthecakeify 2 weeks ago
Oletko käyttänyt jotain kuvankäsittelyohjelmaa jolla pystyy jälkikäteen zoomilemaan, kun tuo kone pysyy niin hyvin kuvassa?
Toisaalta ihmeen paljon edestakaisin zoomausta, jolloin voisi olettaa tämän olevan ihan orginaali kuvaa...
Hyvältä näytti, kkitoksia.
Jontsa73 3 years ago
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Only Finns could be so stupid in buying a big slow fighter from the 70's. You had the chance to go 4th generation and this is what you got....
andersekap1 3 years ago
andersekap1: The deal was pushed by then minister of defence, Elisabeth Rehn whom I don't consider a real finn anyway. That's what you get when you let parasitic minorities in positions of power.
HunyadiMatyas 3 years ago
I am so glad we didnt buy the Jas Gripen (swedish wanna be 4th gen. F/A plane)which I suppose you are suggesting. Jas has one of the worst records in 4th gen F/A aircrafts ever. Plz search for Jas accident videos.
mp52780 3 years ago 4
What do you meen "worst records" it had some problems with the fly-by-wire system(same manufacurer as the f-22) in its childhood. According to all my data its one of the mosts if not the most reliable aircraft out there today.
andersekap1 3 years ago
I am so glad we didnt buy the Jas Gripen (swedish wanna be 4th gen. F/A plane)which I suppose you are suggesting. Jas has one of the worst records in 4th gen F/A aircrafts ever. Plz search for Jas accident videos.
mp52780 3 years ago 4
F-18C/D is 4th generation. It won the contest between other 4th generation multirole fighters. The Finnish version includes ALQ-165 and the better APG-73 radar. It was in fact a very good decision because of future upgrades such as JHMCS + AIM-9X combination, AN/AAR-50, AN/AAS-38 NITE Hawk FLIR and other advanced features that certain neighbouring countries could only dream of, esp. with their current budget cuts.
mlnrscpe 3 years ago 4
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Get your story straight, the F-18 are not nor will ever be a 4th gen fighter.
andersekap1 3 years ago
F-18 is a 4th generation fighter. You probably meant 4.5 generation in your rants, didn't you? You look quite stupid now, don't you?
Besides what does the generation have to do with anything? It's more about the pilot. Here's something for you to watch. See how the old and aged F-18A and B models maneuver in skilled hands:
watch?v=D31WQEact94
mlnrscpe 3 years ago 3
That video said shit about it's performance, you dont think the blue angels have a "better" F-18 that suits their specific task. For instance, they have much better engines (more power). Still thinks the Gripen would ride eights around the standard f-18.
andersekap1 3 years ago
According to the FAQ found at Blue Angels website, their F-18s are standard. They have the cannon removed, a smoke-oil tank installed and one spring installed on the stick, thats all. F-18 has better thrust/weight ratio than Gripen. Maybe you should consider that, before saying a Gripen can outperform an F-18.
Gripen
1 x 80 kN engine
Max Takeoff Mass: 14,000 kg
Thrust/weight ratio: 0.94
F-18
2 x 80 kN engines
Max Takeoff Mass: 23,400 kg
Thrust/weight ratio: better than 0.95
mlnrscpe 3 years ago 2
That was the A/B-models, the C/D versions have a 130kN engine and can supercruise Mach 1.28 at 30Kft.
The new Gripen E/F will be equipped with the engine from the superhornet(+25% thrust).
andersekap1 3 years ago
Super Hornet has two 98kN engines. If Gripen gets one of those it will have the maximum thrust of 98kN. The Finnish F-18 (soon F/A-18) has 160kN of maximum thrust, as it has two engines.
One of the Swedish Air-force's requirements was that the aircraft must be able to land on and take-off from a normal road. So the Gripen was designed to be small, light and maneuverable at the cost of payload. That's one way to do it....
mlnrscpe 3 years ago 4
....Another way is to get a US Navy fighter that has already been tested in real combat, that has lower unit cost than Gripen, that has better thrust/weight ratio than Gripen, can take-off from a shorter runway than Gripen (with heavier payload) and land on a shorter runway than Gripen ever could
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mlnrscpe 3 years ago 5
Finnish HN, swedes would be the receiving part :)
plasmis77 3 years ago
Have googled 4th gen, and it seems that what is and is not a 4th gen fighter is up to the manufacturer. Can't find a good answer what you need to fullfil to be 4th or 5th gen.
All I know is that SAAB says that the gripen is the first 4th gen in service.
andersekap1 3 years ago
Find "fourth generation jet fighter" in wikipedia.
mlnrscpe 3 years ago
It's propably a goddamned way to just make things sell. All Finns can read, as most europeans.
plasmis77 3 years ago
Only Swede could have stupid opinions.
Ever heard about finnish wars? we had nothing, it's the willpower that wins in wars. Of course you don't know anything about modern wars cause you're from chicken-Sweden.
BTW. Sweden gives less money for the army. In future, you have nothing but don't worry, we'll save your worry asses again.
Hayha1 3 years ago 2
Yeah...I forgot when Finns talk about modern wars they are still back in the 1930-40s. But thats OK, your equipment would have done a great job back in the day. ;)
andersekap1 3 years ago
I forgot that Swedes are dog damn fools.
It says in BRITISH document:"Finland have the most succesful wars in world's modern war history", then they listed casualities and costs. You're so fucking dumb cause you don't know that "Modern" can mean age from WW1 to Modern age IF we're looking with bigger perspective.
Ok. I can't call you stupid. We have the best school system in the world(check google) + top students and + have the PISA-title, So it would be unfair to judge you cause our superiority
Hayha1 3 years ago 3
Hayha1..........learn how to spell so I don't have to guess what your writing. If you can't do it right don't do it.
andersekap1 3 years ago
To your earlier post, yes..
Your volunteers did a gratejob.
To this one... Have 6 years of mandatory Finnish education and say that again.
johanonperkele 3 years ago 2
hieno elokuva, hyvin kuvattu! jäin kaipaamaan hidaslento-osuutta...
somebody90 3 years ago
Nice vid... Finnish airgroups:) Sorry my bad english. Other 3world nations try they change....... but if we done some great military country(finland group)...... We from in finland..... And the russia you make kill you self......
mikkis811 3 years ago
Vaikka joku tuolla yritti muuta änkyttää,tää on hienosti vedetty ohjelma.Windin perinteitä jatkaen.Ja hyvin on kuvattu.
miisu 4 years ago 2
This hornet is from that airbase near Kuopio. Airbase is called Rissala and the squadron sign Lynx on the front tells where its from. Lynx is the "logo" of Fighter Squadron 31 based at Rissala.
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BiGirl1593 4 years ago
and finland has always keps its freedom because we have great guerillas and we had the worlds best sniper shooter simo häyhä
MrHerra 4 years ago
You should write this in past tense.
Mikey84 4 years ago
what u mean ?
MrHerra 4 years ago
BTW. Guerilllas r not under goverment control, so I belive more accurate word is rangers. roger and out.
p2pPower 4 years ago
emm are u like dunbor sumtin because my brother is a guerilla an he is pretty much in our governments controll. and may i ask that where are you from?
MrHerra 4 years ago
From Finland but more acurate word for Sissi is Ranger, cause Guerilla forces is often used from fighters like taliban etc. U know what I mean right:D Maybe better in finnish elikkä sama suomeks eli haen tuolla sitä että Ranger on oikeampi nimitys sissi joukoille koska yleensä ottaen Guerilla tarkoittaa vastarintataistelijaa joka ei ole ns valtion alainen. Ja sry jos olin epäkohtelias:D
p2pPower 4 years ago
ei se mitn ja miun englannin kielen yaidot on yli keskiverron mut joten tajusin englanniksi mut tulee kirjotusvirheit joskus. mut ei se miun mielest oikee sovi niitä sanoo rangereiks englannin kielel tosin
MrHerra 4 years ago
lol we shoul not buy those stupid fighters if russia attacks wel won't win them with thecnology we win them with land forses and espessially guerillas
MrHerra 4 years ago
We should buy more of theese and other good fighters, because russia is a threat to the peace, today, tomorrow and 4ever!!
JatkaTku 4 years ago
That was the "lazy" solo program I think. There is a faster paced air show program aswell that was flown in some other airshow. Maybe Jyväskylä 2001. Nevertheless, nice plane, nice airfield and nice finnish crowd :)
Korrix 4 years ago
That is the truth. This is "lazy" solo compared for example russian Suhoi and Mig stars. I think that Hornet can perform better, but finnish pilots cannot do it!
ie45824 4 years ago
I meant that was lazy program for a Hornet... I've seen it perform much better with another finnish pilot elsewhere. (also seen the Swifts which were magnificent too) But as F-18's are in operational use (and expensive) they don't want to risk them at airshows.
Korrix 4 years ago
You are alright. Finland has now only 63 Hornets (1 crashed after collision with another). I suggest that finnish airmen are not exactly training for airshow displays but for maintaining air superiority over skies of Finland.
ie45824 4 years ago
I think so too.. doing well in airshow is quite irrelevant in case of war. But anyways, didnt that one finnish pilot, captain Siivola win RIAT air show thing...or do i remember wrong.
jhiok 4 years ago
suomi on sisukas maa ja kyllä me oltiin natsi-saksan liitolaisii
Melciah 4 years ago
Niinpä, jos ei oltas oltu liitolaisia sakujen kanssa niin haastettas tätäkin ryssäks jostain uralin itäpuolelta :)
Oniknif22 4 years ago
woow, pretty nice flying, really good pilots i guess
i've been in Finalnd twice, nice country
Greetings from Poland
katsanddogs 4 years ago
I think f-18 hornet was the aircraft ever created!
I doesn't have speed,mobility. Go for f-16.
Agent0range67 4 years ago
Suomi! It's sad I have Finnish heritage, and nobody here in the states knows anything about Finland. They think Nokia is Japanese. There is that "HIM" band, but theyre terrible.
chloroxjello 4 years ago 3
I saw a couple of those having a dogfight training near Kuopio. It was nice to see. While being in town some did close fly by. That was cool.
Jonksus 5 years ago
near kuopio is one militar base.
pelipom 4 years ago
jos tän ite oot kuvannu ni helvetin hyvin on kuvattu kamera pysyy vaan kohteessa eikä näytä mitää mummoa kaivamas nenäänsä
vuosaari 5 years ago
Juu! Ari on varmaan IT-mies kun pysyy jyvällä niin hyvin. =D
zamppah 5 years ago
i can understand that!dont ya know your avionics,man?last year was a competition,with fighter pilots around the globe with their own planes.and,what country won?i rest my case:)
etappisukellus 5 years ago
great performing by the best pilots in world
etappisukellus 5 years ago
Yea, because when I think of Finland, the first thing that comes to mind is "Damn they got the best pilots in the world!"
/sarcasm off
Stealth42o 5 years ago
Best pilots since 1918. Even the Brewster "flying coffin" buffalo was real fighter in finnish hands, 432 air victories. You should read more about "Ilmavoimat" from wikipedia, if you are a bit interested about the subject.
Mikaelpete 4 years ago
For me the firs thing that comes to mind is that they have a very good vodka, evenb better that most of the russian ones
micorreo223 4 years ago