women that are educated? how about men... i think both gendres have to contribute, for example if the woman knows that it is wrong to have to many children and it has an impact on world population the man may have a lot of influence on her and they may end up having many children
Get all the world's women into cities, Christ, the whole world would be just one vast city. What a bunch of morons. We need to stop people overbreeding NOW.
Holy crap 200 dead zones in the ocean? That's a mismanagement of our environmental inheritance of epic proportions! The least we can do is urbanize women, educate them, provide family planning, lower birth rates, and stabilize the growth rates. Wow, future humans may never know tuna, or cod, or salmon, what a trip. How sad.
OK, so the ocean is dying, the fish are running out, we don't have enough food or fossil fuels to maintain the current population curve for much longer, yet none of these "experts" has the balls to say that a global 1 child policy needs to be put into place tomorrow?!?! Makes me think they all know someone with 4+ kids and they don't want to offend them. pussies.
I thought these people were serious about stopping the destruction of Earth. Then I heard "let's empower women" and the one child policy described as "draconian".
The scariest quote was "We can't morally stop it".
We believe so much in individual 'rights' that we are willing to risk destroying our own planet to uphold them. This is one of the dogmas that the West must move on from if we are to avoid disaster.
There will be no rights in the the fight for survival.
@djw11111 imagine how things would be if the world wars had not happened. think about japan and their pop. problem. then imagine if ww2 had not happened. they are already walking on top of each other. the only problem i have bout depopulation is that the elite arent going to "vaccinate" their children or families.
@djw11111 Thats exactly what i was thinking you are right, really, when will these people start realizing that enough is enough ? This debate is almost paradoxal in a way.
The common aurgument is that the small percrentage of the wealthy create most of the polution so over population among the poor is not an issue. The problem is huge numbers of poor immigrate to the wealthy countries. Also more and more countries are aspiring to be wealthy and energy use is rising everywhere. It is irresponsible to have large families that you can't afford to feed and raise properly no matter which country you live in. Female liberation and education worldwide is a must.
@yendorification thats funny lol yea and I read a comment where they said close the borders come on people, it's the world the over populated not the state u live in ... lol (its on 1/5)
in america we dont need chinese one child policy we need an income based family law why should there be a welfare mom with seven children and more on the way thats irresponsible to the whole world and their very own children . we need an income based child law if you cant feed 'm you cant breed'm
@toob247 that is stupid man if you look an american child consumes 5 times more energy than media around the world so it's stupid ,it would be better to have a 2 child policy ,people in most cases have max 2 child at 2 childs the pop will stop growing actualy going down ,so it would be better to have a global 2 child policy than one based on income you must stop 10 childs in asia to be born so an american can have one
@toob247 man if you can't feed him don't breed'm its k ,but a child doesn't need only food ,and food is linked with other things ,he needs clothes that's cotton instead of food he needs a car that's biofuels instead of food so at a global level it's not enough and it's not ethical to judge like that .
@iooo007 are u serious it means if you cant afford to raise them u have no business having kids , i'm thinking of the guys that have 3-20 yes 20 kids by 5 or more mommies. being human i can judge, we do it all day long, i say that is just wrong . the kids end up being pissed at the world as soon as they are toddlers. and your comment actually sounds like your saying what i'm saying that there are too many people seeing how all of them kids will need all that stuff and then each have 5-10 kds
@iooo007 earth is just one big fancy fish tank and if you jam too many fish in there eventually they will die on there own waste even if its huge and can hold alot it still has a limit and people here doint see it because its not the fact that humans arnt all p[acked in like our largest cities its all the supporting acreage to support every aspect of life , i'm not for forced breeding laws but it,s a little outta hand when everyone has to have 5-6 kids and so on exponentially
@toob247 Now thats messed up, it's not right to say to any woman or man that they can not have a baby because you don't have money. Yet women who want to use a lab and pay millions of dollars to have babys can have as many as they want. Thats like saying okay mam we have to toss your baby because you don't have a bank account, thats is just so rediculous for anyone to say. They should make the rich people give the money to the people who need come on lets face it how much money do you need it
@zxzxzxr people say money buys happieness, Not true. It just provides u with some stability and thats it. Some of the richest people out there are miserable n think they can have anything there way,since they are already fulfilled in that department they need other means of satisfaction;committing adultry, or plain old greed taking all they got. I have been among them for a few years and decided I didn't want that type of life style were people are only you freinds becuz u got what they want
Facade Translation Dictionary (Family Planning) - To have one, or no children by means of handing out condoms and birth control, social workers explaining the effects of living on welfare, with no planning envloved.
I don't think educating women and moving them to cities are realistic means of lowering the birthrate. How will this be done fast enough to prevent 9+ billion people by mid-century?
Steralisation of women is cheaper than education of women, you need only train one doctor. Third World welfare should be conditional upon steralisation. The west could feed and clothe and immunise a smaller Third World population with much more success. They may even enjoy the dignity of having somewhere to sleep and knowing where their next meal is coming from.
Overpopulation is really another word for racism, economics and eugenics. The
Obama administration along with NASA developing a space solar energy platform which if successful will practically create energy out of nothing. If this happens the whole energy game changes.
sometime in the next number of decades the energy crisis will cause a population collapse but by then the population will have likley grown too much and then our wonderful suburbs will become slums and we'll all live in tiny boxes in the city
the thing about this is that it is not in human hands on this problem. somthing big is gona happen with the earth and were all or most of us will die off from somthing beyound are control
I think the best way to reduce carbon emissions in the west is to have an immigration moratorium. Statistics clearly show the USA population grew by 100 million in the last 40 years and nearly all the growth was due to immigration.
The west could drasically reduce carbon emissions with a reduction in immigration and population and would have nearly stable growth in the USA with a moratorium on immigration.
What about artifical insemination, in vitro, test tube and fertility specialists? It can't be that hard to adopt one of these kids in the developing nations surely (somewhere). This probably doesn't add up to many people now, but it would a few generations down the track, and it's obviously not necessary though potentially benefical from a scientific research point of view.
Also, how about incentives for sterilisation after one child (tax breaks etc)? And if you have none, even more bonuses
ever read brave new world? this overpopulation isn't healthy but this is realy out of our natural control. we will have a natural die off as usual also, we havnt evolved past this point yet
Why don't you move to somewhere in Africa to an utterly overpopulated area, where you could make millions of children to women who also have no concearn for breeding children like rats !?
So why did you say earlier, 1 child tyranny in every country? Why do you think that would possibly be enough?
I told you that nature wishes for no such thing. Aren't people part of nature? And we transcend nature, because God gave dominion over nature and other creatures, to man, I read in Genesis 1.
So if we humans build our cities right, why should nature object? Nature wouldn't see our cities needed to hold so many people as foreign, but as proper part of nature.
Yes we are the part of nature and you are forgetting that God isn't going to rescue us if we destroy nature, which we depend on. We need nature to eat, we need nature to breath, wihout nature we are gone.
When you are reading a religious text, don't take eveythink literally, please !
Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes. What was that about? Showing that God could, and possible would, produce "impossible" amounts of food to produce "impossible" amounts of people? Could that relate somewhat to why there is supposedly "impossible" amounts of people alive even now?
Also the manna for the wandering in the wilderness Israelites. Oh, but that wasn't literal food?
Nature is resilient. I go to battle with the jungle, every time I start up my mower.
I don't believe all that Malthusian gloom-and-doom. Don't you hear of conspiracy theories of evil elites who try to steal control and manipulate everything? We have plenty of oil in U.S. to be self-sufficient in oil, but enviros and evil politicians block development. IMF controls global oil, not OPEC, or so I hear?
Our sheer numbers, and growing, require humans to dominate nature! What means, rape and pillage? Corporate abuses? Normal uses? So many needs, we must use for people
If Obama succeeds in destroying my country, and there's no economic security anymore, I might do just like how you suggest, and move to a better country. I would much rather live in some "utterly overpopulated area," where people still worship God and love their children, than under the tyranny of which you seem to suggest.
I am quite sure that African babies much rather be born, even if into crowded surroundings, than to not exist at all.
I can't quite seem to find that verse against masturbating, other than maybe one about lusting for a woman in one's heart. But then, guys probably do that anyway?
But yeah, I wouldn't recommend it as a method of "birth control," as rhythm isn't necessary. Go ahead and mate with your spouse, during the most fertile time of the month as well. Don't be like rebellious Onan, who spilled his seed on the ground.
Where are the matchmakers, who could help prevent wasted seed?
These people are retarded. You can easily enforce child laws with strict fines and even jail. The US and the world must lower its population now or else. All these people have no balls and are an insult to even talking about overpopulation.
all things have an opposite and equal reaction: living longer, overpopulation
having more kids, overpopulation
CQAS5 1 week ago
women that are educated? how about men... i think both gendres have to contribute, for example if the woman knows that it is wrong to have to many children and it has an impact on world population the man may have a lot of influence on her and they may end up having many children
CQAS5 1 week ago
2 down 3 to go...
CQAS5 1 week ago
ELIMINATING POVERTY 5:36 I AGREE ANYONE UNDER $1,000,000 CASH SHOULD BE FORCED EUTHANASIA LOL!
1290001 3 months ago
Get all the world's women into cities, Christ, the whole world would be just one vast city. What a bunch of morons. We need to stop people overbreeding NOW.
6musky 4 months ago
Holy crap 200 dead zones in the ocean? That's a mismanagement of our environmental inheritance of epic proportions! The least we can do is urbanize women, educate them, provide family planning, lower birth rates, and stabilize the growth rates. Wow, future humans may never know tuna, or cod, or salmon, what a trip. How sad.
HostileNegotiator 6 months ago
OK, so the ocean is dying, the fish are running out, we don't have enough food or fossil fuels to maintain the current population curve for much longer, yet none of these "experts" has the balls to say that a global 1 child policy needs to be put into place tomorrow?!?! Makes me think they all know someone with 4+ kids and they don't want to offend them. pussies.
Wolfgangdoom 6 months ago
We need a world war, that would cut our numbers down :)
Cyricist001 6 months ago
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Kill them, kill them all.
TheOneNo20 7 months ago
the primary reason the philippines has a population problem, is because of catholicism.
vinbuik 7 months ago
So if we pack 7 billion + people into low consumption cities everything would be just peachy - ya right.
ShilgenVens 7 months ago
what???
stphnolar 9 months ago
I thought these people were serious about stopping the destruction of Earth. Then I heard "let's empower women" and the one child policy described as "draconian".
The scariest quote was "We can't morally stop it".
We believe so much in individual 'rights' that we are willing to risk destroying our own planet to uphold them. This is one of the dogmas that the West must move on from if we are to avoid disaster.
There will be no rights in the the fight for survival.
djw11111 10 months ago 2
@djw11111 imagine how things would be if the world wars had not happened. think about japan and their pop. problem. then imagine if ww2 had not happened. they are already walking on top of each other. the only problem i have bout depopulation is that the elite arent going to "vaccinate" their children or families.
lordnada666 8 months ago
@djw11111 Thats exactly what i was thinking you are right, really, when will these people start realizing that enough is enough ? This debate is almost paradoxal in a way.
SaucisseMerguez 7 months ago
money dosent buy happieness... but id rather be unhappy and rich than unhappy and poor
youwanttoliveforever 11 months ago
CANADA---FUCK OFF. WERE FULL.....
chadberry75 11 months ago
The common aurgument is that the small percrentage of the wealthy create most of the polution so over population among the poor is not an issue. The problem is huge numbers of poor immigrate to the wealthy countries. Also more and more countries are aspiring to be wealthy and energy use is rising everywhere. It is irresponsible to have large families that you can't afford to feed and raise properly no matter which country you live in. Female liberation and education worldwide is a must.
WorldAtheistReport 1 year ago
Funny how the world isn't over populated until white realize thier population is declining
yendorification 1 year ago 2
@yendorification thats funny lol yea and I read a comment where they said close the borders come on people, it's the world the over populated not the state u live in ... lol (its on 1/5)
zxzxzxr 1 year ago
they'll kill us off
LuciferKG 1 year ago
in america we dont need chinese one child policy we need an income based family law why should there be a welfare mom with seven children and more on the way thats irresponsible to the whole world and their very own children . we need an income based child law if you cant feed 'm you cant breed'm
toob247 1 year ago
@toob247 that is stupid man if you look an american child consumes 5 times more energy than media around the world so it's stupid ,it would be better to have a 2 child policy ,people in most cases have max 2 child at 2 childs the pop will stop growing actualy going down ,so it would be better to have a global 2 child policy than one based on income you must stop 10 childs in asia to be born so an american can have one
iooo007 1 year ago
@iooo007 its called cant feed'm dont breed'm . or does that sound stupid too?
toob247 1 year ago
@toob247 man if you can't feed him don't breed'm its k ,but a child doesn't need only food ,and food is linked with other things ,he needs clothes that's cotton instead of food he needs a car that's biofuels instead of food so at a global level it's not enough and it's not ethical to judge like that .
iooo007 1 year ago
@iooo007 are u serious it means if you cant afford to raise them u have no business having kids , i'm thinking of the guys that have 3-20 yes 20 kids by 5 or more mommies. being human i can judge, we do it all day long, i say that is just wrong . the kids end up being pissed at the world as soon as they are toddlers. and your comment actually sounds like your saying what i'm saying that there are too many people seeing how all of them kids will need all that stuff and then each have 5-10 kds
toob247 1 year ago
@iooo007 earth is just one big fancy fish tank and if you jam too many fish in there eventually they will die on there own waste even if its huge and can hold alot it still has a limit and people here doint see it because its not the fact that humans arnt all p[acked in like our largest cities its all the supporting acreage to support every aspect of life , i'm not for forced breeding laws but it,s a little outta hand when everyone has to have 5-6 kids and so on exponentially
toob247 1 year ago
@toob247 Now thats messed up, it's not right to say to any woman or man that they can not have a baby because you don't have money. Yet women who want to use a lab and pay millions of dollars to have babys can have as many as they want. Thats like saying okay mam we have to toss your baby because you don't have a bank account, thats is just so rediculous for anyone to say. They should make the rich people give the money to the people who need come on lets face it how much money do you need it
zxzxzxr 1 year ago
@zxzxzxr people say money buys happieness, Not true. It just provides u with some stability and thats it. Some of the richest people out there are miserable n think they can have anything there way,since they are already fulfilled in that department they need other means of satisfaction;committing adultry, or plain old greed taking all they got. I have been among them for a few years and decided I didn't want that type of life style were people are only you freinds becuz u got what they want
zxzxzxr 1 year ago
Facade Translation Dictionary (Family Planning) - To have one, or no children by means of handing out condoms and birth control, social workers explaining the effects of living on welfare, with no planning envloved.
splizz 1 year ago
I don't think educating women and moving them to cities are realistic means of lowering the birthrate. How will this be done fast enough to prevent 9+ billion people by mid-century?
DingoHammer 1 year ago
Steralisation of women is cheaper than education of women, you need only train one doctor. Third World welfare should be conditional upon steralisation. The west could feed and clothe and immunise a smaller Third World population with much more success. They may even enjoy the dignity of having somewhere to sleep and knowing where their next meal is coming from.
Overpopulation is really another word for racism, economics and eugenics. The
problem is too many wanna be Americans.
Mlhirdyahoocomau 1 year ago
@Mlhirdyahoocomau
What kind of bullshit are you spouting?
The problems in not only about over population, it also involved over consumption. The west also has much guilt as the rest of the world.
cronny1979 1 year ago
the world not overpopulated
the mexians are overpopulated
chuy655 1 year ago
Obama administration along with NASA developing a space solar energy platform which if successful will practically create energy out of nothing. If this happens the whole energy game changes.
FXThug 1 year ago
sometime in the next number of decades the energy crisis will cause a population collapse but by then the population will have likley grown too much and then our wonderful suburbs will become slums and we'll all live in tiny boxes in the city
stacklestahl 1 year ago
What about reintroducing smallpox? Or drug resistant TB. Ban medicine!
cidrosmith 1 year ago
the thing about this is that it is not in human hands on this problem. somthing big is gona happen with the earth and were all or most of us will die off from somthing beyound are control
cartercarter1 2 years ago
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I think the best way to reduce carbon emissions in the west is to have an immigration moratorium. Statistics clearly show the USA population grew by 100 million in the last 40 years and nearly all the growth was due to immigration.
The west could drasically reduce carbon emissions with a reduction in immigration and population and would have nearly stable growth in the USA with a moratorium on immigration.
rocketsredglare101 2 years ago
terrifyingly, elsewhere in the world people are describing declining fertility as a problem.
we have to fight resonance between human instinct and various social conventions & structures
walter0bz 2 years ago
What about artifical insemination, in vitro, test tube and fertility specialists? It can't be that hard to adopt one of these kids in the developing nations surely (somewhere). This probably doesn't add up to many people now, but it would a few generations down the track, and it's obviously not necessary though potentially benefical from a scientific research point of view.
Also, how about incentives for sterilisation after one child (tax breaks etc)? And if you have none, even more bonuses
avidalocan 2 years ago
ever read brave new world? this overpopulation isn't healthy but this is realy out of our natural control. we will have a natural die off as usual also, we havnt evolved past this point yet
samaeling 2 years ago
Or maybe implement some genocide? but whom to kill?
Polishman1 2 years ago
@Polishman1 Non-Whites!
Mlhirdyahoocomau 1 year ago
One child policy in every country, and nature will be very thankful.
drekecdrekecadrekecu 2 years ago
or........if you realize that first world countries have low birth rates......then what we need are more to become developed.............jesus
kRAZYCanuck22 2 years ago
To drekecdrekecadrekecu:
Nature would want humans multiplying all the more.
For in nature, most all life naturally spreads into most every available niche. So why not all the more so, with supposedly intelligent human life?
Our children are not expendable. Nor negotiable. How are you people so ready to sell off your birthright and all your freedom?
According to conspiracy theory promoted in 1984 movie, gov needs phony crises. First, Cold War Soviets, but with NWO no more? Now environment?
pronatalist 2 years ago
Why don't you move to somewhere in Africa to an utterly overpopulated area, where you could make millions of children to women who also have no concearn for breeding children like rats !?
You would have to feel great there, right?
drekecdrekecadrekecu 2 years ago
To drekecdrekecadrekecu:
So why did you say earlier, 1 child tyranny in every country? Why do you think that would possibly be enough?
I told you that nature wishes for no such thing. Aren't people part of nature? And we transcend nature, because God gave dominion over nature and other creatures, to man, I read in Genesis 1.
So if we humans build our cities right, why should nature object? Nature wouldn't see our cities needed to hold so many people as foreign, but as proper part of nature.
pronatalist 2 years ago
Yes we are the part of nature and you are forgetting that God isn't going to rescue us if we destroy nature, which we depend on. We need nature to eat, we need nature to breath, wihout nature we are gone.
When you are reading a religious text, don't take eveythink literally, please !
drekecdrekecadrekecu 2 years ago
To drekecdrekecadrekecu:
Jesus multiplied the loaves and fishes. What was that about? Showing that God could, and possible would, produce "impossible" amounts of food to produce "impossible" amounts of people? Could that relate somewhat to why there is supposedly "impossible" amounts of people alive even now?
Also the manna for the wandering in the wilderness Israelites. Oh, but that wasn't literal food?
Nature is resilient. I go to battle with the jungle, every time I start up my mower.
pronatalist 2 years ago
pronatalist:
God might have given dominion over nature to us, but I seriously doubt he/she meant us to rape & pillage it.
We will face massive famines during the coming decades when oil production will decline and our "green revolution" stops bearing fruit.
For every 1 calorie of food energy, we use 10 calories of fossil energy.
mgrlucid515 2 years ago
To mgrlucid515
I don't believe all that Malthusian gloom-and-doom. Don't you hear of conspiracy theories of evil elites who try to steal control and manipulate everything? We have plenty of oil in U.S. to be self-sufficient in oil, but enviros and evil politicians block development. IMF controls global oil, not OPEC, or so I hear?
Our sheer numbers, and growing, require humans to dominate nature! What means, rape and pillage? Corporate abuses? Normal uses? So many needs, we must use for people
pronatalist 2 years ago
To drekecdrekecadrekecu:
If Obama succeeds in destroying my country, and there's no economic security anymore, I might do just like how you suggest, and move to a better country. I would much rather live in some "utterly overpopulated area," where people still worship God and love their children, than under the tyranny of which you seem to suggest.
I am quite sure that African babies much rather be born, even if into crowded surroundings, than to not exist at all.
We have grown so depraved!
pronatalist 2 years ago
Of course. And you are commiting genocide when masturbating.
drekecdrekecadrekecu 2 years ago
To drekecdrekecadrekecu:
I can't quite seem to find that verse against masturbating, other than maybe one about lusting for a woman in one's heart. But then, guys probably do that anyway?
But yeah, I wouldn't recommend it as a method of "birth control," as rhythm isn't necessary. Go ahead and mate with your spouse, during the most fertile time of the month as well. Don't be like rebellious Onan, who spilled his seed on the ground.
Where are the matchmakers, who could help prevent wasted seed?
pronatalist 2 years ago
These people are retarded. You can easily enforce child laws with strict fines and even jail. The US and the world must lower its population now or else. All these people have no balls and are an insult to even talking about overpopulation.
controlpopulation 3 years ago
these people are psycos. Holy Christ! just remove PEOPLE rather than change our behaviour? wow
kdurston1 3 years ago