Can anyone recommend any books on a comprehensive guitar picking method, such as Chuck Waynes, He made a conservatory method for guitar picking, which mainly dictates dont use wrist motion, clapse the thumb joint and popthe finger joint, basically pushing the string to activate it, not striking it, A nyways, someone please recommend some books!!!
this guy's picking baffles me in the same way malmsteen's does. So many notes alternated picked so fast, yet so little hand movement. Its almost hard to believe somebody can go so fast and clean, yet not do just legato.
Side note: Please don't take my comment and turn it into a Harrison / Malmsteen war. Nobody gives a shit, seriously. I'm not comparing ability, likability, or skill. Just a similarity in technique.
He uses strict economy picking. The same way Frank Gambale does. Using a restroke when you go down and up. It makes it easier to reach a string and make it sound smoother.
Interesting to see him playing this with strict economy picking, do you know if this was before he started to integrate hybrid picking into his playing which I see in all his more recent videos?
Take a classical etude played by a pianist and he is a virtuoso.Take the same etude played by a guitarist and he is a ...shredder with no feel whatsoever.When all this moronic logic is gonna stop? I know there is jealousy involved there somewhere...but still......i guess its a guitarist decease cause i dont see people that play other instruments having those arguments.
Based on new information Marshall putted out. He can sightread. But I cannot tell from this video. He might have memorized it but he said he can remember extended guitar pieces like these. Though it looks like he's reading something.
@lauriemonk Damn, I dont even know why I said that. Looking at the other video it's obvious that these are two different guitars...>.<. The only real similarity is the color and the fact that they are missing a logo. Maybe the same luthier?
@Peerandersen Thanks for letting me know that you don't like the music. I think for me, if you knew Marshall, he's been working on these "moto perpetuo" pieces for a significant number of years. These pieces are normally played on piano and so the challenge is to transcribe them for guitar and then implement that transcription. So the joy of completing this exercise cannot be under estimated. However, as you say it's unlikely to appeal to the popular ear, but this is not the point for Marshall.
@lauriemonk as a side note, just for anyone who is interested, this piece is by henri wieniawski, a polish violin virtuoso. his caprices, in particular, make for excellent guitar technique studies. i would also recommend checking out wolfhart etudes, also for the violin, as something a bit less challenging.
@lauriemonk i don't normally go for shredding of this nature, however, marshal really is hypnotically good and beyond accurate with these pieces. Listening to some of his other video's, the timing and accuracy in his technique is breathtaking to say the least.
@Peerandersen I don't understand how a piece of music by the Acclaimed polish violin virtuoso Henryk Wieniawski is not "real music?" Please explain yourself. Wieniawski played this on violin hundreds of years ago, its withstood the test of time. I can assure you Wieniawski would have fallen out of favor with Violinists and guitars alike if it was not real music.
@shadowknight132 I heard that he continues to work on some of the more complex transcriptions under the umbrella term "Moto Perpetuo" pieces. I don't know more than that at this point... but I believe it has been a "life long work" for Marshall. I got the CD, check out the blog for links, lots of incredible chops, but songs too.
I check out three of his songs for his cds, all of the them got some sick playing especially Dr. Z. I commented on your profile about the cd awhile ago but got no reply. Eventually I found it on your blog. As for "Moto Perpetuo," it sounds like it's going to be an album that is in a sense bebop, hence moto perpetuo (in latin, to move forever). Sounds interesting. If you get any more news, message me.
@shadowknight132 I have the mp3... you can get a CD from Amazon in the USA. There are some incredible pieces on there, but I suspect this will not be the entirety of Marshall Harrison's repertoire... look out for more crazy classical in the future.
So much gain that the "music" is taken out of it. There is a point where trying to be the "anomaly" is outweighed by the tools vs. technique used to achieve the result. I really don't believe in this guy.
the problem here is not with the quality of the file that doesn't reflect the real recording.
Hre the problem is the guitar tone he has, it sounds cold muddy digital. it seems like all concentration is on technique and speed and not on the real sound that goes to the ear of the listener.
Without doubt he is one of the most skilled player in the world.
but this guy has to work on his tone! becouse i objectevly suckSS!! Many virtuoso players just don't take this into consideration, and then what a surprise!: THEIR TONE SOUNDS LIKE A FART!!!
and then mikxer I sugguest you to doesn't offend me becouse I know how I play and many other people knows it too!
You should note this is a fifth generation of a hundred year old video... only kidding, but the sound is probably not reflective of the actual recorded sound. I think I sum it up when I say I just love the expression of joy on his face when he completes the piece!
@iperman68 if you call this top-class performance shitty dirty and too fast then you better go delete all your youtube videos and sell your guitar gear on ebay. i've never seen some1 troll so hard on marshalls video that shows the finest classical approach to electric guitar.
I think your right i use jazz lll's for almost everything and when i use them for economy picking there not as good as other picks i have used so when the jazz lll has worn down i have no problem moving to my custom shaped plastic pick i made from cutting it with a razor blade.
He doesn't seem to be as developed as he is now technically.
The section at 1.20 looks very different to his current style of arrangement with a lot of string skipping that would be best played hybrid.
Et.3 OP76 seems to be the point where he really delves into his hybrid/economy from what I can see with my limited vision. There's many passages in his Et.3 OP76 transcrition that would be much harder without the up stroke/string skip with hybrid pick rescuing technique.
have to remember that these pieces were challenging on Violin to begin with.
there was probably no other way to transcribe it with out making it extremely difficult (ha?)
so string skipping was probably the most reliable way of playing those passages.
im currently trying to transcribe Alkan's Le chemin de fer op27 i first had the intro so sloppy it was like playing hopscotch on the fretboard just because i thought some of the notes that followed later were odd
@Phrygian12 You know, I've seen your name across the net for years and I've thought that you're one of the best players around, even though you've never posted a video.
I'm just wondering why you never have and if it's the same reason I don't.
@Phrygian12 I just had a hunch that you don't post videos because, quite frankly ..no one would be qualified enough to comment on them.
Even if you look at Marshalls videos, there's maybe 10 people across all the videos that make the decent comments and the rest are just pointless comments about things they aren't familiar with
Economy hybrid can be tricky if you're improvising and don't have good licks. I usually rely on bouncing octave notes between the pick and fingers in the middle of runs
the passages for the fingers seemed odd to play(like they would give the player trouble) but i would rather play it that way then playing Hopscotch all over the neck.
Sounds fast, but messy. Raise the action and get more note separation. You don't need that much speed. A little slower and cleaner will still sound fast and more impressive.
I need to get my action lowered by the looks of things. This guy, Michael Romeo, Vai, Tiego Della Vega all have ridiculously low action, which helps the playability. Damn good guitarist though.
at 0:23 you get a close up, the 24th fret has the 2 dots and there a 6 more frets after that making 30. You may be able to fret the wood or the pick-up to get the B (31st fret) but there are only 30 strings, which is still pretty awesome. One step away from Uli Jon Roth's sky guitar.
The Irony of this is of course his unbeatable legato playing.. Marshall is a monster man...
TerraDigitalMedia 2 months ago
I miss the old Marshall. He haven't uploaded a classical video in forever!
shadowknight132 6 months ago
awesome. now do it without distortion.
samjohannes 9 months ago
17 people's brains exploded and their mothers pressed "Dislike"
seppesai 11 months ago
hot damn. Well done
dquintanilla10 1 year ago
Can anyone recommend any books on a comprehensive guitar picking method, such as Chuck Waynes, He made a conservatory method for guitar picking, which mainly dictates dont use wrist motion, clapse the thumb joint and popthe finger joint, basically pushing the string to activate it, not striking it, A nyways, someone please recommend some books!!!
millionsdollars 1 year ago
this isnt exactly pleasurable to my ears
blaze21 1 year ago
@e30brian he was playing the piano with his feet...
lauriemonk 1 year ago 10
Who composed this piece originally?
TheAmazingNeptune 1 year ago
@TheAmazingNeptune Wieniawski
ostrorawr 1 year ago
this guy's picking baffles me in the same way malmsteen's does. So many notes alternated picked so fast, yet so little hand movement. Its almost hard to believe somebody can go so fast and clean, yet not do just legato.
Side note: Please don't take my comment and turn it into a Harrison / Malmsteen war. Nobody gives a shit, seriously. I'm not comparing ability, likability, or skill. Just a similarity in technique.
PeaceDisturber 1 year ago
@PeaceDisturber Look up takayoshi ohmura.. He has some of the most relaxed and small-motion-oriented picking technique ever.
QuotidianHegemony 1 year ago
@PeaceDisturber
He uses strict economy picking. The same way Frank Gambale does. Using a restroke when you go down and up. It makes it easier to reach a string and make it sound smoother.
shadowknight132 11 months ago
Such a relaxed picking technique he has!
gitarmats 1 year ago
Interesting to see him playing this with strict economy picking, do you know if this was before he started to integrate hybrid picking into his playing which I see in all his more recent videos?
Ubertron10k 1 year ago
how many frets is that
TheAlexkru 1 year ago
Take a classical etude played by a pianist and he is a virtuoso.Take the same etude played by a guitarist and he is a ...shredder with no feel whatsoever.When all this moronic logic is gonna stop? I know there is jealousy involved there somewhere...but still......i guess its a guitarist decease cause i dont see people that play other instruments having those arguments.
denisgiann 1 year ago 3
Does anyone know when this was recorded?
MarcBolan3 1 year ago
wow a 30 fret custom Ibanez!!!! Awesome guitar.
neoclasiccl 1 year ago
Is this sight read?
partlyshady 1 year ago
@partlyshady
Based on new information Marshall putted out. He can sightread. But I cannot tell from this video. He might have memorized it but he said he can remember extended guitar pieces like these. Though it looks like he's reading something.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
I think that might be Derryl Gabel's guitar, the one marshall plays on the Florida Jam 2000 video at Derryl's house.
Shredwizard445 1 year ago
@Shredwizard445 no it's not Derryl's
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk Damn, I dont even know why I said that. Looking at the other video it's obvious that these are two different guitars...>.<. The only real similarity is the color and the fact that they are missing a logo. Maybe the same luthier?
Shredwizard445 1 year ago
i learned this piece about 2 years ago... and still sounds not so good in my guitar lol
lots of stamina to play this one, btw, How many frets this guitar has?????
lecheparavaka 1 year ago
not funny.
FCValle 1 year ago
pero que porqueria mas grande, lo tendria que marcar como inadecuado
carabata64 1 year ago
As usual, Marshall wins huge props for even attempting that sort of piece on guitar, let alone getting through the end.
Speaking of the guitar - the headstock looks like an Ibanez - does anyone know what it actually is or perhaps who the luthier was?
ShredReviews 1 year ago
how about some breaks and other things ?
- sorry, his very talented at what he does. but it's just not real music.
Peerandersen 1 year ago
@Peerandersen hello... it is a transcription of a classical piece
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk - I apologize for saying that it's not real music. But I don't like it.
my ears need a break from all the shredding.
- but again, no doubt that he's good. :)
Peerandersen 1 year ago
@Peerandersen Thanks for letting me know that you don't like the music. I think for me, if you knew Marshall, he's been working on these "moto perpetuo" pieces for a significant number of years. These pieces are normally played on piano and so the challenge is to transcribe them for guitar and then implement that transcription. So the joy of completing this exercise cannot be under estimated. However, as you say it's unlikely to appeal to the popular ear, but this is not the point for Marshall.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk as a side note, just for anyone who is interested, this piece is by henri wieniawski, a polish violin virtuoso. his caprices, in particular, make for excellent guitar technique studies. i would also recommend checking out wolfhart etudes, also for the violin, as something a bit less challenging.
samjohannes 1 year ago
@samjohannes thanks for the info.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk i don't normally go for shredding of this nature, however, marshal really is hypnotically good and beyond accurate with these pieces. Listening to some of his other video's, the timing and accuracy in his technique is breathtaking to say the least.
BinaryReader 1 year ago
@Peerandersen I don't understand how a piece of music by the Acclaimed polish violin virtuoso Henryk Wieniawski is not "real music?" Please explain yourself. Wieniawski played this on violin hundreds of years ago, its withstood the test of time. I can assure you Wieniawski would have fallen out of favor with Violinists and guitars alike if it was not real music.
RainWiLLIDie 1 year ago
Where did Marshall go?? He use to play an amazing piece called Acclaim. I think he's given it up for Maths teaching? can anyone verify this?
guitarofvelocity 1 year ago
@guitarofvelocity He's just about to release a CD on digital nations. This is a vocal album and not the moto perpetuo pieces
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk
He's doing a Moto Perpetuo cd?
I just heard about the Digital Nation cd which is great.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
@shadowknight132 I heard that he continues to work on some of the more complex transcriptions under the umbrella term "Moto Perpetuo" pieces. I don't know more than that at this point... but I believe it has been a "life long work" for Marshall. I got the CD, check out the blog for links, lots of incredible chops, but songs too.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
@lauriemonk
I check out three of his songs for his cds, all of the them got some sick playing especially Dr. Z. I commented on your profile about the cd awhile ago but got no reply. Eventually I found it on your blog. As for "Moto Perpetuo," it sounds like it's going to be an album that is in a sense bebop, hence moto perpetuo (in latin, to move forever). Sounds interesting. If you get any more news, message me.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
@lauriemonk
Hey I emailed them about it and found Moto Perpetuo is Presto-digitation. Haha it was there in our face the whole time.
shadowknight132 1 year ago
@shadowknight132 I have the mp3... you can get a CD from Amazon in the USA. There are some incredible pieces on there, but I suspect this will not be the entirety of Marshall Harrison's repertoire... look out for more crazy classical in the future.
lauriemonk 1 year ago
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just stumbled upon this gem..Classic SICK MARSHALL! Thanks Laurie! WOW
petepachio 1 year ago
150% technique
0% feeling !
+HORRIBLE tone
widepass 1 year ago
Is the piano playing the same piece, or in the same key?
yahoochiewatchie 2 years ago
So much gain that the "music" is taken out of it. There is a point where trying to be the "anomaly" is outweighed by the tools vs. technique used to achieve the result. I really don't believe in this guy.
itowedin 2 years ago 3
the problem here is not with the quality of the file that doesn't reflect the real recording.
Hre the problem is the guitar tone he has, it sounds cold muddy digital. it seems like all concentration is on technique and speed and not on the real sound that goes to the ear of the listener.
IMO
iperman68 2 years ago
I think he's even more amazing because he could play that piece with that crappy tone :).
13guitard00d 2 years ago
LISTEN MIKXER:
Without doubt he is one of the most skilled player in the world.
but this guy has to work on his tone! becouse i objectevly suckSS!! Many virtuoso players just don't take this into consideration, and then what a surprise!: THEIR TONE SOUNDS LIKE A FART!!!
and then mikxer I sugguest you to doesn't offend me becouse I know how I play and many other people knows it too!
iperman68 2 years ago
You should note this is a fifth generation of a hundred year old video... only kidding, but the sound is probably not reflective of the actual recorded sound. I think I sum it up when I say I just love the expression of joy on his face when he completes the piece!
lauriemonk 2 years ago
@iperman68 this is not how his tone is now he's got an amazing tone now so smooth
brandon5pennies 1 year ago 2
This tone is so shitty and the playing is so dirty and too fast, it sounds like a prolungate fart
iperman68 2 years ago
@iperman68 if you call this top-class performance shitty dirty and too fast then you better go delete all your youtube videos and sell your guitar gear on ebay. i've never seen some1 troll so hard on marshalls video that shows the finest classical approach to electric guitar.
mikxer 2 years ago
good skills but it sounds like a shity solid state amp & 8 inch speaker, sorry.
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Jhey172 2 years ago
why do you use jim dunlop big stubbies marshall?
as you are using a jazz lll in the video and i do aswell what is so good about the stubbies?
trevskiw2008 2 years ago
i think the reason he uses stubbies is because the pick attack is more smooth
his control of dynamics takes his use of stubbies to the point to where he can be alternate picking and still be doing legato
TruNikkaz 2 years ago
I think your right i use jazz lll's for almost everything and when i use them for economy picking there not as good as other picks i have used so when the jazz lll has worn down i have no problem moving to my custom shaped plastic pick i made from cutting it with a razor blade.
I have gone off jazz lll's recently.
trevskiw2008 2 years ago
jazz stubs are more warm, i still use jazz iiis for more staccato/metal sounding tonalities
TruNikkaz 2 years ago
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Phrygian12 2 years ago
0.17.... thats the sound of getting a coin in Mario!
ibanezbloke 2 years ago 18
He doesn't seem to be as developed as he is now technically.
The section at 1.20 looks very different to his current style of arrangement with a lot of string skipping that would be best played hybrid.
Et.3 OP76 seems to be the point where he really delves into his hybrid/economy from what I can see with my limited vision. There's many passages in his Et.3 OP76 transcrition that would be much harder without the up stroke/string skip with hybrid pick rescuing technique.
johnaiton 2 years ago
@johnaiton
have to remember that these pieces were challenging on Violin to begin with.
there was probably no other way to transcribe it with out making it extremely difficult (ha?)
so string skipping was probably the most reliable way of playing those passages.
im currently trying to transcribe Alkan's Le chemin de fer op27 i first had the intro so sloppy it was like playing hopscotch on the fretboard just because i thought some of the notes that followed later were odd
Phrygian12 2 years ago
@Phrygian12 You know, I've seen your name across the net for years and I've thought that you're one of the best players around, even though you've never posted a video.
I'm just wondering why you never have and if it's the same reason I don't.
You're an economy player?
johnaiton 2 years ago
@johnaiton ? im not to sure what you mean
yeah im a Economy guy and slowly becoming a hybrid player
Phrygian12 2 years ago
@Phrygian12 I just had a hunch that you don't post videos because, quite frankly ..no one would be qualified enough to comment on them.
Even if you look at Marshalls videos, there's maybe 10 people across all the videos that make the decent comments and the rest are just pointless comments about things they aren't familiar with
Economy hybrid can be tricky if you're improvising and don't have good licks. I usually rely on bouncing octave notes between the pick and fingers in the middle of runs
johnaiton 2 years ago
@johnaiton
the passages for the fingers seemed odd to play(like they would give the player trouble) but i would rather play it that way then playing Hopscotch all over the neck.
Phrygian12 2 years ago
who is the composer?
thiagorisingforce 2 years ago
where did the guitar sound go??
llwayneio 2 years ago
Too bad it sounds like shit.
Juandisimo 2 years ago
yes it does... lot of mistakes beside that guitar is 24 + frets!!
lecheparavaka 2 years ago
I want that guitar though. The fret job looks god.
Juandisimo 2 years ago
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i dig this one
Gigolo13 2 years ago
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Gigolo13 2 years ago
omg this piece is so increadibly hard
mikxer 2 years ago 3
fucking amazing
TruNikkaz 2 years ago
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scintilating speed, ugly tone, disinteresting overall effect
12inchvertical 2 years ago
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Sounds fast, but messy. Raise the action and get more note separation. You don't need that much speed. A little slower and cleaner will still sound fast and more impressive.
buddastrat 2 years ago
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MISRABLE BASTARD
coopeh 2 years ago
who? look at 2:00 a very happy man!
lauriemonk 2 years ago
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Great shredding, but it just doesn't seem to fit in with the piano.
=/
TheKidGuitarist 2 years ago
i was thinking that too, I thought I had another window open with some strange music playing.
soupie 2 years ago
30 frets? Nice.
I need to get my action lowered by the looks of things. This guy, Michael Romeo, Vai, Tiego Della Vega all have ridiculously low action, which helps the playability. Damn good guitarist though.
helraizer 3 years ago 6
actually, its 31
bhfam 3 years ago 2
at 0:23 you get a close up, the 24th fret has the 2 dots and there a 6 more frets after that making 30. You may be able to fret the wood or the pick-up to get the B (31st fret) but there are only 30 strings, which is still pretty awesome. One step away from Uli Jon Roth's sky guitar.
Musictheif 3 years ago 2
Not really sure why I got -1 there.. Low action DOES help the playability. He's still technically incredible; a very good guitarist indeed.
helraizer 3 years ago
at 1:25 - Did he use his middlefinger? O_O
Thats so impressive and amazing. i am speechless :D
5/5
PsychoManiac696 3 years ago
This is pure ownage!
zefie14 3 years ago 3
this shud get more than a million views...not funtwo ...and all.....
zythug 3 years ago 12
What is the name of this piece?
Tacoguitar 3 years ago
It's an etude by Wieniawski. Can't remember which one...
thinkpad20 3 years ago
yep...etude-caprice no 3 in D major...
RozarSmacco 3 years ago 3
this is so fucking awesome, how could a human handle a guitar like this?
Heineken1712 3 years ago
does anyone knows what kind of strings he's using?
Jr72 3 years ago
yeah same, i wanna know what kind of strings those are
Gmanmusiclover 3 years ago
Kinda Becker-esque
danohrly 3 years ago
Wow, awesome stuff. I wonder what Marshall is up to these days, and if he's still in Houston...
InstruMentalCase 3 years ago
Hi buddy, I think so... with a lovely new baby!
lauriemonk 3 years ago
Awesome.
twooos 3 years ago