we already are an official declration away from being second class citizens. but see, i would rather be a second class citizen on foregin land with better opportunities than to be a second class citizen in my own country. we singaporeans really do live our lives with irony.
I applaud Project2011 for posting this message back in 2008. It would be much more effective if someone had taken the time and energy to get the grammar correct. If you really pride yourself on being a Singaporean, then let us not degrade our education. Five minutes taken now and you'll note the difference in the thrust of the message.
I hope all who viewed this item will ignore the degrading comments made by godmadegrass (2 yrs ago). (S)he is definitely not fit to be called a Singaporean.
Don't come to Singapore. Singaporean are not friendly. And they think that they are very great,just behind US. They think Singapore is the 2nd best and strongest country in the world. I have one word for them. Bullshit. When I travel to Singapore,I totally don't understand what they are talking. It's a language that sounds like English. But my friend told me that it's a combination of English,Hokkien and Malay.
@juan150156 I BEG YOUR PARDON...?. WTH... if you really really really became permanent resident here...you really understand of the word "SINGLISH"...eh, c'mon singapore is way better than China... since singapore is the second best that doesn't mean we're trying to show off here...
Foreigners, visitors, travelers do not come to this place. This is NOT a civlized country. The sadistic government does not even respect its own citizens and for foreigners it is worse. Men are subjected to gender discrimination whereby penaltys for infractions involve FLOGGINGS tantamount to torture. This is still a savage third world island city with archaic laws and Barbaric practices. SHAME ON SINGAPORE.
foreign talent my foot i remember a foreign superior of my saying singaporean stupid infront of me , yet i can't do anything but smile . what to gorverment say one ma FOREIIGN TALENT LEH lan lan lor , i nvn fight for singapore liao
Then the usual arguement about lack of babies will be thrown in, but the root cause of the lack of babies (the astronomical cost of living here + stiffled pay and lack of job security and any kind of social security net) is ignored. The fact that the usual PAP quick "fix" which is actually aggrivating the issue is conveniently overlooked.
Everytime people on the ground speak about PMET jobs, general office jobs, receptionist work, etc being freely given when there are many locals trying to get these jobs but are priced out by cheaper foreigners who can afford to take that lower pay due to currency exchange + the lower cost of living they have at home, it seems to be a guaranty that someone from the PAP or some PAP mimic will reply with arguements about low level jobs and highly skilled jobs that no one is even complaining about.
Singapore is no where near fully grown. We've got lots to face. We've worked towards a robust economy and good infrastructure, but we have a long journey ahead. And since a low population means lousy economy, we have no choice but FT. All i'm saying is, make babies, or put up with the influx, cos there's no way we can prevent this. They will naturalise soon.
yea 50 years frm now we'll still be harping the same tune "we got alot to face..long journey ahead"..i wonder for how long? Well watever rocks your boat..and don't kid yourself when u said they will naturalise soon..
Lastly, Foreigners aren't so bad. they too do the shit jobs out there. They come in search of a better world. a better environment for them and their children. they come here just as we go out to australia, canada or america, in search of a better living space. Don't be selfish. Just by doing 2 years of NS doesn't make you a matyr. there are young ones even in built up countries fighting in real battles. Just be happy, do your job, don't job-hop, be loyal, and we'll have a better country for all
better environment for their children and them ? then our family can be sacrificed for their luxurious living? rubbish.how would u probably know the pain when ur nicely seated in a office with a job at ur desk..wait till u lose it to a EXPAT... then u will feel the pinch.
why must we run to overseas ?why ask yourself... if things like this happen in Singapore...of course one fine day u would too.2 yrs NS it might look simple for u ..ask this same question to an EXPAT,lets see if he serves?
Infact, look at our roots; if not for immigrants/foreigners, singapore would never come to be. I think the bulk of singaporeans who bemoan not getting a job are just incompetent. Go upgrade yourself. Get a better resume. As for this video, opportunity doesn't come knocking at your door, and it most certainly doesn't come in the mail. You have to go find it yourself, in your own merit. Oh, and speaking better english would also help.
true,,,we are immigrants.. but when.. when Singapore was a newborn baby...we worked together for what it is today... accept ? and not coming in when Singapore is fully grown !
we don't bemoan for nothing..could the expats speak proper English ? NO! could they work hand in hand with us ? NO ! then what the heck ! i guess they have to upgrade in order to reach us ! what is the difference between a refugee and them ?simply nth...just salvation and spoiling the life of others...
singaporeans love taking text out of context, and love to be kiasu about things. Foreign workers exist in every 1st world country. Just because they are given some rights over singaporeans doesn't mean they are being better off than us. We wouldn't be a global country if not for giving a few scholarships to them.
are u trying to say EXPATS are not kiasu... they break queues...they talk so loudly in buses and trains..its not like those early 90's and 2000... infact Singapore is fast becoming a litterbug nation..those illiterates throw rubbish all over ,spoiling the image of Singapore which got as a clean and a litter free country... but now... go around Singapore monitor those EXPATS behavior and judge by yourself...
let all globalize sickness come to Singapore..already sars ..then next... ?
but the problem is, when lets say they bring in their families and they raise their kids here. would their kids want to work as what their parents were? they'll definitely want to be like any other singaporean kid. then the manpower problem will be a cyclical process. we start bringing in more foreigners. when will it end? til s'pore is so damn packed that thers no room for us to breathe? maybe when the no of ppl in s'pore coz us to sink into the sea? no wonder singaporeans r moving out...
the problem is we're grooming our young to become doctors, engineers, lawyers etc. n no one to work in the construction or service industry. as a singaporean ask urself. would u want to work as tat? and thus we have to bring in forigners to cover up these works. we should be thankful to these foreigners.
There's no lacking of talents and opportunities if many Great Singaporens believe in change thru reform - available in local political scene by joining REFORM PARTY now.
Do it now or never to see a vibrant Singapore.Recommend, that many top civil servants support the REFORM PARTY before or after LKY's demise.
Hey hey. did u guys read that China even wants to give away their citizens to America because they have too many? Go read up on it. If these dumb PRCs still thinks we are not respecting our ancestors, tell that to their own government!
@youngplainjuan my chinese classmate in ntu told me spore govt so oblivious to the fact that once they have acquired their degrees, and serving their scholarship bond, they will leave.
he told me singapore is just a springboard for him to reach his goals.
There is no value in being a singaporean , We do not have a culture of our own & and the worst part is their stupid foreigne talent crap , The talents that come here are dumb and no better then the average singaporeans ...
Any given day i rather work with a local singaporean , then with some dumb white ars or with some mutha farking indian fresh from indian (with their stupid caste system thinking), or some stuck up Dog eating china cunt who thinks china is so great!!!
@godmadegrass YOU FORGET THEY MAKE UP NARLY 50% OF SINGAPOREANS TODAY BUT ARE ACTUALLY SCAB LABOR ?
YOU ALSO FORGET TO MENTION ALL BIG-TIME CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY THEM.
THEY STEAL AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY FROM THEIR LANDLORDS, DIRTY PUBLIC PLACES AND THEY CONTINUOUSLY SWEAR AT THEIR JOBS BUT STILL REMAIN BECAUSE WHERE THEY ARE PROBABLY JOBLESS OR UNEMPLOYABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE PURE AND SIMPLE CHEATS. REMEMBER THE SWISS MRT PAINTER AND THE MALAYSIAN SINGAPORE-NUS-TRAINED CON-ARTIST LAWYER RECENTLY
Good on you project2011. Not many singaporeans actually care about their country. Instead they prefer to be lulled into a false sense of security and let themselves be ruled. In some ways the sense of competitiveness and of achievement was struck out of us when we were all streamed into particular social prototypes. The grammar doesn't really matter. I think we all get what frustrates you.
i dont feel exceptionally proud of being a singaporean after seeing the grammar on this video. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE PUT YOUR TEXT IN MICROSOFT WORD TO SPELLCHECK BEFORE YOU TYPE IT IN YOUR STUPID WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER OR WHATEVER LA.
Beijing has 50,000 south korean now, and many more foreigns are working in Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou,simply because those places are more attractive than there home town. But Chinese seems more OPEN to their foreign competitors, because China is BIG/ or GREAT, there even more foreign attracted by CHINA in history, why bother to be great again.
No mater who you are or where you live its always the same. People move to where the money is and the people who are already there don't like it. It happends on a small local scale and a large global one. Once someone gets into a movie house they always feel that its time to close the doors and start the movie. This does not mean that unlimited imigration can happen either. There are but so many seats to fill.
Beijing/china want to attract or not attract how many foreigners is their own internal politics. If I were in China, I will be a good guest and won't participate in China's politics, and publicly write to newspaperto praise the Communist party, in case unhappy citizens scold me.你们中国人的政治,本人身为个好客人,决不插手偏袒任何一方。因此我在中国,不会被中国人辱骂。
To whatever extent, singa's gover' is smarter than its people, such as wendyneo. Wendyneo only knows stupid slogan like "f**k immigrants from china steal my job", but he forgot that his grand parents are all from china, are all he-so-called "mother-fucker chiness-blood immigrant". And he didn't realised that fucking-immigrant ancestor at least DARE to compete with malayan and lion, and he just DARE complain his immigrant ancestors
I complain about you. you say I complain about ancestor. Your English no good. Chinese also no good. Neither is your logic! Your idea that because my ancestor can come from china to singapore, therefore now singaporeans must welcome people from china is so nonsensical that it is not worth rebutting. Mad!
You parents are from China, means at least you should be reasonably treating people from all over the world, either immigrant or visitors. If you just want to "fuck chinese immigrant", go home dig your ancestors out.
"You from china, my grandpa too, you guys are inferior, not welcome" <-- you said that. Singaporeas did not.
Singaporeans say: "you people from China are coming in, in too great a number and with no min wage, no welfare etc, it is causing us to lose jobs. we do not welcome you. FULL STOP". No ancestor involved. No "you guys are inferior" involved. You should put your own nonsense into your own mouth, not accuse others.
"You sing guy from China, great, visit your old place whenever" <-- and you should add "because when you come visit old place, you will not be snatching away our jobs, or writing to newspapers to boot lick a govt we dislike".
We Singaporean Men sure do know alot about big and small, especially at Geylang area where all you China sluts are spreading your legs for us! Different tits sizes makes the differences. Most of them have both big and small tits but all of the whores have armpit hairs! Don't believe? Come to Singapore and I'll bring you there, you might find your family members prostituting too. Perhaps your mother's worm infested cunt is the only one everybody rejects! hahahaha!! ^_^
And I assume when people bully his family, he'll keep quiet because he is only a helpless ancestor... give him illogical answer when he's giving illogical reasons..LoL
what is "strongly any classification among population"? Your English is lousy. Nobody can understand. Use Chinese. My chinese is better than your English. lol
Why you now say Singapore govt no good? I thought all these while, you are saying the govt is very good, has "great" ideas, and it is singaporeans who are "small"? 给老子点醒了,不敢再厚颜无耻地捧政府卵脬,现在反倒过来说政府与人民都一同糟?这就对了,小朋友!你那些在新加坡的同胞,如果能够少点说政府好,政府对,新加坡人就会少点辱骂他们。
I will check this out. Frankly it sounds like sour grapes to me. It sounds like the same talk you hear from people in Texas who don't like all the Mexicans taking the "crappy" jobs. Also not unlike what you hear from the Canadians who don't like the Americans takeing all the "good" ones.
you are a very funny person. I have just told you that Singapore has no min wage, and you yourself have just confirmed that even with min wage, anybody that gets only min wage in usa "is a joke".
So, this clearly confirms that situation is very bad in singapore because citizens are competing with workers imported from 3rd world countries willing to work at very low wage (again: no min wage).
Yet u call us sour grape. You have very funny logic. Am i wasting my time with you?
No not at all, I have no problem believing that people in singapore who make Min wage are in a miserable situation. I just ment that just because a country has an official min wage dosen't mean that they are better off. The united states has one and its too low to matter and Canada has one and its high enough to have results, the results being the exportation of low paying jobs to the developing world.
it is not the same. You know very well that united states has a citizen-first employement policies and that foreigners can only be employed when a qualified local is not found. I should not have to tell u american employemnt law :)
Singapore does not have such a law. Foreigners are replacing singaporeans in jobs at all levels from "crappy" to "good" ones. Hence lots of unhappiness from singaporeans.
I think it is an insult to usa/canada's govt to compare them to sg's.
This is not true either in the United states or Canada. Yes, there are some kinds of work permits and imigration permits that work that way. Once a person has a "GREEN CARD" they are just like everyone else. You get work where you can. Who GETS the right to work there and move there, yes. Once there we are all the same. I moved to Canada six years ago from the United states.
You know only too well that an employment-based GREEN CARD is given out only when a suitable citizen worker cannot be found. This is not the case in sg - law does not require employer to show that. Hence our "green card" are given out indiscriminately to foreigners who are cheaper and replacing locals.
It is clear that you do not know the situation here. So why r u even debating with me? :)
No I understand what you are saying, Singapore lets people move there leagally too easly. I can understand this. How does this differ greatly from the United states who have laws that are strict but THEN lets people come without papers? When 50% of the Mexicans in the united states just snuck in when nobody was looking how is that diffrent? Min wage for them is not there, they live 15 to an apartment, they send most of their money home and they can't live off what they make either.
1. your "mexicans" example is an exception rather than the norm - most people in most part of usa in most professions are not victim of your eg. Whereas in sg, it is now affecting the whole country and all levels of workers from professionals to labourers.
2. There is welfare for american citizens who are displaced by those mexicans - food-stamps, unemployment benefits.
I should let u know that I am familiar with US's situation. Much more than u are with SG's :)
ya ok, so its even worse in Singapore. Why not? Its a very small place. It could be overwelmed by imigration easly. Welfare and foodstamps? Better spit before you say that when you are in the united states. Both are seen as a huge waste of money to anyone not on them. Unemployment benefits only apply when you are laid off proper and only last 26 weeks. Mostly you get nothing and even when you get them its 66% of your normal. Try living on 66% of what was already too little.
It sounds to me like you have a problem. Don't however assume that it is yours alone. Also don't assume that a change in the law will change it. We have those laws and what happends in singapore with the laws blessing happends here against the law. It is a tide that can't be stopped really. Poor people ARE going to move to rish areas one way or the other like it or not. Now its just how will we handle it. How is singapore doing it? Not well? Ok , fair enough.
We are not *assuming* that the problem is ours alone. We know it for a fact.
And how do we know? Because many Singaporeans have studied or worked in Canada/USA. We are familiar with how their employment-based green card system works, their welfare system and first hand encounters with americans. And so we know you are not stating the truth in your argument that the problem in canada/usa with the influx of mexicans is almost as bad. It's not. And many of us knows it 1st hand :)
I don't think I said it was almost as bad. Then, I do not live in the South west united states either. I would bet that they may have a diffrent viewpoint.
u said "sour grape". That's like saying canadian/american problem r almost as bad and the same problem is abt everywhere and hence we r "sour grape".
For, how else can we be sour grapes, if the situation is well under-control in usa, canada, australia, etc and is uniquely and really bad in singapore? :)
Because you hear the same argument with small local changes no matter where you go. The government of Canada is beging for people to move here. Do you think the PEOPLE here feel the same way? Hell no, They feel the same way you do. With less reason perhaps but the same language is used. NOBODY in ANY country wants more people
Firstly, u have not displaced the job of a plumber, car mechanic, construction worker etc.
Secondly, other canadians who know how to use the internet are also not displaced by you and if they were, they can get another job with their skill and if they can't find one, they can tide over with welfare temporarily.
It's the opposite situation in sg where any foreigners, skilled or unskilled r let in indiscriminately and no min wage and no welfare.
No. And I have already made it clear, and so have this very video - it's the indiscriminate import of foreign workers at all levels of job from labourers to professionals. This causes singaporeans to be out of job. And for those with jobs, they have to take much lower wage. Isn't this what this video is about? The lack of welfare and min wage makes the problem much worse.
It seems to me that you major issue is not with people who Move to Singapore but people who come in on Temp work permits and that they displace and under price Singaporians for the low end jobs is that correct?
That's incorrect. I have already said many times - the problem in singapore is so hugh precisely because it covers all level of jobs. low-end are replaced by temp foreign worker. high-end are also replaced - by permanent workers who get PR ridiculously easily. You really need to read up more on sg's situation if u are interested.
How about starting by getting everyone in singapore to stop hiring maids from other countries. Just wondering, does your family have a maid? It seems common over there
Hiring maid or otherwise does not solve the issue. So I dont even know what the f you mean by "how abt starting by..."
I have made clear to you repeatedly - the issue is overwhelming influx of foreign workers both on temp and permanent basis, coupled with no min wage and no welfare, leading to disaster
Clearly, not hiring maid will not solve this issue. And you knew that very well, since you are not unintelligent.
Therefore, I do think you are trying to be waste my time. Hence the f-word.Bye.
Whether I hire or not hire a maid does not in any way helps in our debate of:
whether singapore's problem with foreigner workers is "sour grade" and "the same everywhere".
You have trivialize our situation and when pointed out by me, came up with inaccurate representation of problems in usa/canada (until u r reminded that singaporeans are v. familiar with situation there), and now cook up this strange "how about not having maid to solve problem" nonsense.
Hiring maids and paying them low wages is exploitation of foreign workers. Thats ANOTHER issue DIFFERENT fm issue at hand which is:
Is mass unemployment of singaporeans displaced by foreigners leading to homelessness and suicide (ONE ELDERLY PER DAY), the "same everywhere" and a "sour grape" mentality by Singaporeans?
I try to debate with u intelligently but clearly u r bent on trivializing our problem, no matter what. This "maid" thing is the latest evidence. So bye then. A waste of my time.
I guess I am not trying to say its "the same" exactly. Singapore is a very special place and you need not convince me that it does not need more people. I hate big cities and I would leap off a tall building if I lived in a place so full of people. I just ment that the responce of not wanting more people no matter where you live is a universial one. Reasons very but the debate boils down to the people in the over loaded bus resent the driver stopping to pick up more people.
What min. wage? Nobody makes min wage. Well not NOBODY but its so low that market forces demand wages that are higher then min in 90% of the united states and most of Canada. My kid makes more then min wage working at burger king part time. A min wage that is so low not even an Mexican would work for it is a joke anyway.
In other words, you r saying that in usa/canada, foreign workers get MORE than min wage.
Do I have to repeat myself again? Singapore has no min wage - meaning citizens are competing with imported foreign workers from 3rd world country willing to work at wages BELOW min amt needed to raise a family in sg. That's the reason why the govt refuse to have min wage - to ensure max company profit.
I of course do not need to lecture you on the neccessity of having min wage, do I? :)
Oh hell ya! people coming to Canada get FAR MORE. In fact you can't come to Canada unless you are EDUCATED EDUCATED EDUCATED or, married to someone who is. In the united states on the other hand, many of the people are takeing farm jobs, farm jobs don't have a min wage or one thats much much lower. So low even the "non documented" workers make more
so u see? in usa, it's (a)just farm job, and (b)they make more than min wage. In sg, it's (a) all level of jobs and (b)they (foreign workers from 3rd country) making way LESS than amt needed to survive in sg! (it's ok for them 'cos they cramp 15 pple per apt - no law. And sent most money home).
Also, to get employement-based PR in sg, law does NOT require employer to show an equivalent local cant be found!
This, combined with no min wage -- I think u should get the idea now :)
fret not. I have just made a video to teach new settlers to Singapore what their future will be like. Click on my username and see my latest video: "The Singapore government welcomes...".
Oh, and if u want to emigrate, see my video: "Shine for Singapore..." for tips on how to do that. Cheers!
I am an American and I live in Canada. Every country in the world has the same issue. Canada is begging for new people while Canadians want fewer and the United states would crumble without hords of mexicans to do the nasty farm jobs yet Americans want them gone. In the end we are all the same. " I am here and I have a place to sit now close the doors and start the movie!"
No, Singapore's issue is totally different: it is importing foreigners to become citizens to dilute electoral votes. USA/Canada does not do that. For a clearer explanation, see "YOUNG-PAP" of blogspot. Its July 30, 2008 article titled: "Government-owned forum tells FT to make police report against citizen" contains a long comment which explains clearly why Singapore's situation is absolutely unique in the world!
u dont know much about S'pore since u ve been there sometime... i am a Hong Kong Chinese and have once been there for air transforing. Singporeans were quite friendly to me and didnt treat foreigners in a high-hat way... and some of them even speak Cantonese! XD
新加坡人讨厌中国移民是情有可原,完全可以理直气壮的。你若想知原因,可去看我的"Who is the Emperor of Singapore"和"The Singapore government welcomes..."两个录像的右首的"more info"。我在那儿解释得很清楚新加坡人为何完全有资格辱骂中国移民"f**k you Immigrants from China"!
You know the problem is? You are small, physically and mentally。你们新加坡为什么要吸引移民?因为你们缺乏人才,那么小的一个岛屿只有两所正规大学,拿什么去和别人竞争?要明白是新加坡在soliciting immigrant而不是反过来,如果没有外来的高素质移民,新加坡毫无竞争力。归根溯源,85%的新人也是中国移民后代。说中国话、用中华文字、砖头来f**k他们并不遥远的祖先。新加坡民风如此粗鄙、愚昧,但因一个"小"字。remember your grand parents are all Immigrants from China, you want to fuck them up, go ahead.
You F**k people first, and hence I am f**king u back.自己先粗鄙,却要怪他人以牙还牙。又,老子明明是回敬你,在操你,你却刻意含血喷人,歪曲成我对祖先不敬。你他妈的中文不好,还跟我谈祖先。Listen carefully, I am f**king *YOU*, not ancestor. You bring up ancestor for f**k?
While I am now a US Citizen, I take great pride in my heritage and my country of birth. Singapore is a great country and like all great countries, will encounter growing pains. Here in the US, there is a sentiment against immigrants, legal or illegal, about taking low-level jobs like picking fruit or washing dishes. Why? It's because the youth of today feel like these jobs are beneath them. Get a grip, work your way up the system and respect will be bestowed when it has been earned!
You do not know the situation in singapore. Hence your comparison of american immigration situation with singapore's is nonsensical. For a start, usa is not importing immigrants to dilute votes. And so on. Read more and respect will be bestowed upon you when you make more sense. I recommend: "YOUNG-PAP" of blogspot. Its article dated Jule 30, titled: "Government-owned forum tells FT to make police report against citizen" has a comment that explains why we r against foreigners.
My company is hiring. I have 2 open positions. Advertized for 2 months. I received 60 resumes out of which only 2 Singaporeans! If there is no foreigners, my company will close down!
Maybe you offered 'cheapskate' salary meant for people who are able to spend in 3rd world countries. With long hours. Put yourself as a Singaporean with families to feed on the job (you are) offering. Will it be pathetic if you were the one reading that advertisement of yours in the first place?
Hello...just like any other ads, salary is not even stated on the ads. And our company is a reputable MNC offering competitive salary in the industry!
The future generation of Singapore may have parents who are ex-foreigners, just as many of our parents are not born in Singapore. Before we make comments on their parents, please think about ours.
And please, we have held our heads high all this while~! Instead, we should be the ones encouraging the foreigners in our land to hold their heads high. Why do we need to belittle ourselves?
My parents came here but did not displace any locals of jobs. They took up citizenship the moment it was granted. They never for one moment intended to use this place as a stepping stone to go elsewhere or back where they came from. Unlike most of the present bunch of foreigners.
singaporean are kiasi.. i have met many singaporean who complain a lot about the govt, and yet they told me they vote for PAP during the election... let hope the future generation of singaporean are different.
dude one of your fucking ancestors are most likely a foreigner
Nerfops99 7 months ago
excellent video to show how singaporeans have been betrayed absolutely by the pap government !
indeed, it is time for change before more singaporeans are betrayed by the pap government !
vote for change !
vote for the opposition !
hallwy3 9 months ago
we already are an official declration away from being second class citizens. but see, i would rather be a second class citizen on foregin land with better opportunities than to be a second class citizen in my own country. we singaporeans really do live our lives with irony.
killerinthehounds 10 months ago
What is the profundity and cultivation to obtaining one people one nation?
There be all of our seniors and us started and sacrificing in laborious history for long years that we trying to build a country base on UNITED.
There be all of Singaporeans embracing together regardless of races and religions.
There be no any citizens displace from their united nation and history.
VOTE FOR CHANGE. VOTE FOR BIRTHRIGHT.
dos4648 10 months ago
I applaud Project2011 for posting this message back in 2008. It would be much more effective if someone had taken the time and energy to get the grammar correct. If you really pride yourself on being a Singaporean, then let us not degrade our education. Five minutes taken now and you'll note the difference in the thrust of the message.
I hope all who viewed this item will ignore the degrading comments made by godmadegrass (2 yrs ago). (S)he is definitely not fit to be called a Singaporean.
joachimferrer 1 year ago 6
great, promote racism.... who do you think builds your houses and clean your streets.
manutdonline 1 year ago
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Singaporean is stupid and shit.
juan150156 1 year ago
Don't come to Singapore. Singaporean are not friendly. And they think that they are very great,just behind US. They think Singapore is the 2nd best and strongest country in the world. I have one word for them. Bullshit. When I travel to Singapore,I totally don't understand what they are talking. It's a language that sounds like English. But my friend told me that it's a combination of English,Hokkien and Malay.
juan150156 1 year ago
@juan150156 lol which idiot did you talk to. and your english is equally dismal
alkbjaopeir 1 year ago
@juan150156 I BEG YOUR PARDON...?. WTH... if you really really really became permanent resident here...you really understand of the word "SINGLISH"...eh, c'mon singapore is way better than China... since singapore is the second best that doesn't mean we're trying to show off here...
nutcraker999 1 year ago
STAY AWAY FROM SINGAPORE
Foreigners, visitors, travelers do not come to this place. This is NOT a civlized country. The sadistic government does not even respect its own citizens and for foreigners it is worse. Men are subjected to gender discrimination whereby penaltys for infractions involve FLOGGINGS tantamount to torture. This is still a savage third world island city with archaic laws and Barbaric practices. SHAME ON SINGAPORE.
butterflye2020 1 year ago
@butterflye2020 your head barbaric...
nutcraker999 1 year ago 2
foreign talent my foot i remember a foreign superior of my saying singaporean stupid infront of me , yet i can't do anything but smile . what to gorverment say one ma FOREIIGN TALENT LEH lan lan lor , i nvn fight for singapore liao
ongrat 1 year ago
Then the usual arguement about lack of babies will be thrown in, but the root cause of the lack of babies (the astronomical cost of living here + stiffled pay and lack of job security and any kind of social security net) is ignored. The fact that the usual PAP quick "fix" which is actually aggrivating the issue is conveniently overlooked.
JuanBeegAhs 1 year ago
Everytime people on the ground speak about PMET jobs, general office jobs, receptionist work, etc being freely given when there are many locals trying to get these jobs but are priced out by cheaper foreigners who can afford to take that lower pay due to currency exchange + the lower cost of living they have at home, it seems to be a guaranty that someone from the PAP or some PAP mimic will reply with arguements about low level jobs and highly skilled jobs that no one is even complaining about.
JuanBeegAhs 1 year ago
Singapore is no where near fully grown. We've got lots to face. We've worked towards a robust economy and good infrastructure, but we have a long journey ahead. And since a low population means lousy economy, we have no choice but FT. All i'm saying is, make babies, or put up with the influx, cos there's no way we can prevent this. They will naturalise soon.
vijay20 2 years ago
@vijay20
yea 50 years frm now we'll still be harping the same tune "we got alot to face..long journey ahead"..i wonder for how long? Well watever rocks your boat..and don't kid yourself when u said they will naturalise soon..
lancerglx82 1 year ago
Not all foreign talent are talents, mostly foreign labour only...
Hbar7788 2 years ago
What exactly do Singaporeans meant by Singaporean Singapore?
ceebyman 2 years ago
Lastly, Foreigners aren't so bad. they too do the shit jobs out there. They come in search of a better world. a better environment for them and their children. they come here just as we go out to australia, canada or america, in search of a better living space. Don't be selfish. Just by doing 2 years of NS doesn't make you a matyr. there are young ones even in built up countries fighting in real battles. Just be happy, do your job, don't job-hop, be loyal, and we'll have a better country for all
vijay20 3 years ago
better environment for their children and them ? then our family can be sacrificed for their luxurious living? rubbish.how would u probably know the pain when ur nicely seated in a office with a job at ur desk..wait till u lose it to a EXPAT... then u will feel the pinch.
why must we run to overseas ?why ask yourself... if things like this happen in Singapore...of course one fine day u would too.2 yrs NS it might look simple for u ..ask this same question to an EXPAT,lets see if he serves?
cantona080975 2 years ago
Infact, look at our roots; if not for immigrants/foreigners, singapore would never come to be. I think the bulk of singaporeans who bemoan not getting a job are just incompetent. Go upgrade yourself. Get a better resume. As for this video, opportunity doesn't come knocking at your door, and it most certainly doesn't come in the mail. You have to go find it yourself, in your own merit. Oh, and speaking better english would also help.
vijay20 3 years ago 2
true,,,we are immigrants.. but when.. when Singapore was a newborn baby...we worked together for what it is today... accept ? and not coming in when Singapore is fully grown !
we don't bemoan for nothing..could the expats speak proper English ? NO! could they work hand in hand with us ? NO ! then what the heck ! i guess they have to upgrade in order to reach us ! what is the difference between a refugee and them ?simply nth...just salvation and spoiling the life of others...
cantona080975 2 years ago
singaporeans love taking text out of context, and love to be kiasu about things. Foreign workers exist in every 1st world country. Just because they are given some rights over singaporeans doesn't mean they are being better off than us. We wouldn't be a global country if not for giving a few scholarships to them.
vijay20 3 years ago
are u trying to say EXPATS are not kiasu... they break queues...they talk so loudly in buses and trains..its not like those early 90's and 2000... infact Singapore is fast becoming a litterbug nation..those illiterates throw rubbish all over ,spoiling the image of Singapore which got as a clean and a litter free country... but now... go around Singapore monitor those EXPATS behavior and judge by yourself...
let all globalize sickness come to Singapore..already sars ..then next... ?
cantona080975 2 years ago
send a strong signal? by support a lousier party?
makotohaha 3 years ago
i agree with you Godmadegrass!!
suaz1984 3 years ago
but the problem is, when lets say they bring in their families and they raise their kids here. would their kids want to work as what their parents were? they'll definitely want to be like any other singaporean kid. then the manpower problem will be a cyclical process. we start bringing in more foreigners. when will it end? til s'pore is so damn packed that thers no room for us to breathe? maybe when the no of ppl in s'pore coz us to sink into the sea? no wonder singaporeans r moving out...
suaz1984 3 years ago
the problem is we're grooming our young to become doctors, engineers, lawyers etc. n no one to work in the construction or service industry. as a singaporean ask urself. would u want to work as tat? and thus we have to bring in forigners to cover up these works. we should be thankful to these foreigners.
suaz1984 3 years ago
yes singaporeans r the problem to answer the question in the video.
JLow614 3 years ago
elaborate plz
how singaporeans r problems to their own country
reallydead 3 years ago
There's no lacking of talents and opportunities if many Great Singaporens believe in change thru reform - available in local political scene by joining REFORM PARTY now.
Do it now or never to see a vibrant Singapore.Recommend, that many top civil servants support the REFORM PARTY before or after LKY's demise.
tokselehon 3 years ago 2
nothing to be proud of and raise our heads high pls. its time to give our talents to other countries.
xzealot60 3 years ago 2
Hey hey. did u guys read that China even wants to give away their citizens to America because they have too many? Go read up on it. If these dumb PRCs still thinks we are not respecting our ancestors, tell that to their own government!
youngplainjuan 3 years ago 9
@youngplainjuan my chinese classmate in ntu told me spore govt so oblivious to the fact that once they have acquired their degrees, and serving their scholarship bond, they will leave.
he told me singapore is just a springboard for him to reach his goals.
corleone1820 1 year ago
singapore no more uniquely singapore redi la they still dare use the slogan in advertisements....
boiwdlds 3 years ago 2
There is no value in being a singaporean , We do not have a culture of our own & and the worst part is their stupid foreigne talent crap , The talents that come here are dumb and no better then the average singaporeans ...
Any given day i rather work with a local singaporean , then with some dumb white ars or with some mutha farking indian fresh from indian (with their stupid caste system thinking), or some stuck up Dog eating china cunt who thinks china is so great!!!
godmadegrass 3 years ago 17
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@godmadegrass YOU FORGET THEY MAKE UP NARLY 50% OF SINGAPOREANS TODAY BUT ARE ACTUALLY SCAB LABOR ?
YOU ALSO FORGET TO MENTION ALL BIG-TIME CRIMES ARE COMMITTED BY THEM.
THEY STEAL AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY FROM THEIR LANDLORDS, DIRTY PUBLIC PLACES AND THEY CONTINUOUSLY SWEAR AT THEIR JOBS BUT STILL REMAIN BECAUSE WHERE THEY ARE PROBABLY JOBLESS OR UNEMPLOYABLE BECAUSE THEY ARE PURE AND SIMPLE CHEATS. REMEMBER THE SWISS MRT PAINTER AND THE MALAYSIAN SINGAPORE-NUS-TRAINED CON-ARTIST LAWYER RECENTLY
MegaRose235 1 year ago
@godmadegrass u must be a muslim...
Nerfops99 7 months ago
reminds me of a hitler documentary or something the kkk would have done... bigot idiots!
aa32wa 3 years ago
Good on you project2011. Not many singaporeans actually care about their country. Instead they prefer to be lulled into a false sense of security and let themselves be ruled. In some ways the sense of competitiveness and of achievement was struck out of us when we were all streamed into particular social prototypes. The grammar doesn't really matter. I think we all get what frustrates you.
cavecaudex 3 years ago
i dont feel exceptionally proud of being a singaporean after seeing the grammar on this video. FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE PUT YOUR TEXT IN MICROSOFT WORD TO SPELLCHECK BEFORE YOU TYPE IT IN YOUR STUPID WINDOWS MOVIE MAKER OR WHATEVER LA.
nartz 3 years ago
Beijing has 50,000 south korean now, and many more foreigns are working in Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou,simply because those places are more attractive than there home town. But Chinese seems more OPEN to their foreign competitors, because China is BIG/ or GREAT, there even more foreign attracted by CHINA in history, why bother to be great again.
napoleonbot 3 years ago
No mater who you are or where you live its always the same. People move to where the money is and the people who are already there don't like it. It happends on a small local scale and a large global one. Once someone gets into a movie house they always feel that its time to close the doors and start the movie. This does not mean that unlimited imigration can happen either. There are but so many seats to fill.
realsamwise 3 years ago
Beijing/china want to attract or not attract how many foreigners is their own internal politics. If I were in China, I will be a good guest and won't participate in China's politics, and publicly write to newspaperto praise the Communist party, in case unhappy citizens scold me.你们中国人的政治,本人身为个好客人,决不插手偏袒任何一方。因此我在中国,不会被中国人辱骂。
你们中国人却不知当客之道。来到新加坡,处处开口都支持政府的政策,就如你现在说政府的移民政策是"great",新加坡人民排斥移民是"small"。如此硬要插手别国内政,强要拍当权派马屁,活该被本地人辱骂!
听好,老子现在因你不知当客之道,在辱骂*你*,且还是回敬你先骂的f**k。怎样?是否,又要上纲上线说我对祖先不敬。你他妈的是我祖先?神经病!
wendyneo 3 years ago
Your Singapore government is basically even worse than Communist, at least communists strongly any classification among population.
I just tell the truth, you singapore is tity island no bigger than a dog shit. singaporean people's mind are even smaller.
napoleonbot 3 years ago
To whatever extent, singa's gover' is smarter than its people, such as wendyneo. Wendyneo only knows stupid slogan like "f**k immigrants from china steal my job", but he forgot that his grand parents are all from china, are all he-so-called "mother-fucker chiness-blood immigrant". And he didn't realised that fucking-immigrant ancestor at least DARE to compete with malayan and lion, and he just DARE complain his immigrant ancestors
napoleonbot 3 years ago
I complain about you. you say I complain about ancestor. Your English no good. Chinese also no good. Neither is your logic! Your idea that because my ancestor can come from china to singapore, therefore now singaporeans must welcome people from china is so nonsensical that it is not worth rebutting. Mad!
我祖父从中国来新加坡落地生根,并不表示我现在必须欢迎中国人来新加坡。时机,人口,就业情况等等都不一样。根本不可以混为一谈。且也与数典忘祖一点关联都没有。你是疯狗,没逻辑思维的能力。
wendyneo 3 years ago
You parents are from China, means at least you should be reasonably treating people from all over the world, either immigrant or visitors. If you just want to "fuck chinese immigrant", go home dig your ancestors out.
你祖父从中国来新加坡落地生根,并不表示你必须欢迎中国人来新加坡,但至少说明如果你就喜欢辱骂包括中国人在内的外国人,不管是移民还是游客,都是在骂你们自己的先人。简直愚蠢的像猪一样。
napoleonbot 3 years ago
you know the differ between BIG and SMALL?
China - theBIG: "You sing guy from China, great, visit your old place whenever"
Singap- theSMALL "You from china, my grandpa too, you guys are inferior, not welcome"
napoleonbot 3 years ago
"You from china, my grandpa too, you guys are inferior, not welcome" <-- you said that. Singaporeas did not.
Singaporeans say: "you people from China are coming in, in too great a number and with no min wage, no welfare etc, it is causing us to lose jobs. we do not welcome you. FULL STOP". No ancestor involved. No "you guys are inferior" involved. You should put your own nonsense into your own mouth, not accuse others.
wendyneo 3 years ago
"You sing guy from China, great, visit your old place whenever" <-- and you should add "because when you come visit old place, you will not be snatching away our jobs, or writing to newspapers to boot lick a govt we dislike".
wendyneo 3 years ago
We Singaporean Men sure do know alot about big and small, especially at Geylang area where all you China sluts are spreading your legs for us! Different tits sizes makes the differences. Most of them have both big and small tits but all of the whores have armpit hairs! Don't believe? Come to Singapore and I'll bring you there, you might find your family members prostituting too. Perhaps your mother's worm infested cunt is the only one everybody rejects! hahahaha!! ^_^
triuna 3 years ago
Scold visitor = scold ancestor?
scold immigrant = scold ancestor?
scold you = scold ancester?
With this type of f logic, it is time for u to go into a mental asylum!
骂移民=骂先人?
骂游客=骂先人?
骂你=骂先人?
以你这种疯话看来,你是时候进精神病院了!
wendyneo 3 years ago 3
Haha...
I think he thinks himself as an ancestor LoL
And I assume when people bully his family, he'll keep quiet because he is only a helpless ancestor... give him illogical answer when he's giving illogical reasons..LoL
enikisser 3 years ago 2
wendyneo(W): 目前,有太多中国人来新加坡抢我们饭碗,真讨厌这些中国移民。
Napoleonbot(N):你正在骂你祖先,因为这些抢了你饭碗的移民是你祖先。
W:目前在新加坡的中国移民老爱上报章为政府背书,我实在讨厌这些中国移民。
N:你正在骂你祖先,因为这些爱拍马屁的中国移民,是你祖先。
诸位看官,我是不是在跟一个疯子说话?这个疯子连祖先的定义都不知道!
W:
wendyneo 3 years ago 3
what is "strongly any classification among population"? Your English is lousy. Nobody can understand. Use Chinese. My chinese is better than your English. lol
Why you now say Singapore govt no good? I thought all these while, you are saying the govt is very good, has "great" ideas, and it is singaporeans who are "small"? 给老子点醒了,不敢再厚颜无耻地捧政府卵脬,现在反倒过来说政府与人民都一同糟?这就对了,小朋友!你那些在新加坡的同胞,如果能够少点说政府好,政府对,新加坡人就会少点辱骂他们。
新加坡政府引入的移民各国都有。就只有中国人喜欢写稿上报拍政府马屁。活该被反政府的新加坡人辱骂!该骂!
wendyneo 3 years ago
I know you Sink-a-Poor guy hate all immigrants, "Indian are mistreated in Singapore" is become a reason indian hate chinese, see a video in Youtube.
我没有夸奖你们政府哦,你们政府是你们的事情。我只是客观地说,新加坡没有什么人才,引进移民也许是"改良"本地人才的好办法。不过新加坡小朋友,以后要尊重中国朋友和你自己的中国祖先,不然中国过去打你的屁股也不是不可能。
napoleonbot 3 years ago
你这老疯子,始终看不清"不尊重新移民"与"不尊重祖先"是两码子事,牛头不对马嘴,实在有点无可救药!你那些移民新加坡的同胞少插手本地政治,就如你在加拿大从不上报拍加拿大政府马屁,就会少些摩擦。
wendyneo 3 years ago
napoleonbot,
反正你说的都是没逻辑的废话, 我这就换个话题:
你对法轮功有何看法?本人刚在这儿"One Nation Under Lee (complete video)"(url: ...17qhGIwyGj0) 把它臭骂一顿。如有兴趣,可去看一看。哈哈哈!
wendyneo 3 years ago
>我只是客观地说,新加坡没有什么人才,引进移民也许是"改良 "本地人才的好办法
你的"客观"并不符合现实,因为在现实中,政府引进的并非什么人才,而只不过是比新加坡人更低能力,但较便宜的廉价劳工。所谓"外来人才",是个骗人的政治口号。实为"外来庸才"。别把人家的政治口号,拿来往自己脸上贴金。即比如阁下你吧,老子就不觉得你有任何资格敢说比本人高学历或能力或经验。甚至语文能力,本人敢说你的中文不会比我好很多,但英文比我差。你,倘若来新加坡,充其量,只不过是个比本人便宜,却没比本人行的"外来庸才"。对新加坡有何屁用?
wendyneo 3 years ago
To any foreigners seeing this video,
before you start commenting that the situation is same all over the world, you may wish to know:
Singapore has no minimum-wage policy. Is that the case "all over the world", in usa, in canada, in europe, in australia?
Do you know what is the result of a combination of no minimum-wage policy and an influx of foreigners.
And I have not even talk about how loyal foreigners are import to *replace* dissenting locals to remain in power in elections etc.
wendyneo 3 years ago
I will check this out. Frankly it sounds like sour grapes to me. It sounds like the same talk you hear from people in Texas who don't like all the Mexicans taking the "crappy" jobs. Also not unlike what you hear from the Canadians who don't like the Americans takeing all the "good" ones.
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
you are a very funny person. I have just told you that Singapore has no min wage, and you yourself have just confirmed that even with min wage, anybody that gets only min wage in usa "is a joke".
So, this clearly confirms that situation is very bad in singapore because citizens are competing with workers imported from 3rd world countries willing to work at very low wage (again: no min wage).
Yet u call us sour grape. You have very funny logic. Am i wasting my time with you?
wendyneo 3 years ago
No not at all, I have no problem believing that people in singapore who make Min wage are in a miserable situation. I just ment that just because a country has an official min wage dosen't mean that they are better off. The united states has one and its too low to matter and Canada has one and its high enough to have results, the results being the exportation of low paying jobs to the developing world.
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
it is not the same. You know very well that united states has a citizen-first employement policies and that foreigners can only be employed when a qualified local is not found. I should not have to tell u american employemnt law :)
Singapore does not have such a law. Foreigners are replacing singaporeans in jobs at all levels from "crappy" to "good" ones. Hence lots of unhappiness from singaporeans.
I think it is an insult to usa/canada's govt to compare them to sg's.
wendyneo 3 years ago
This is not true either in the United states or Canada. Yes, there are some kinds of work permits and imigration permits that work that way. Once a person has a "GREEN CARD" they are just like everyone else. You get work where you can. Who GETS the right to work there and move there, yes. Once there we are all the same. I moved to Canada six years ago from the United states.
realsamwise 3 years ago
Realsamwise,
You know only too well that an employment-based GREEN CARD is given out only when a suitable citizen worker cannot be found. This is not the case in sg - law does not require employer to show that. Hence our "green card" are given out indiscriminately to foreigners who are cheaper and replacing locals.
It is clear that you do not know the situation here. So why r u even debating with me? :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
No I understand what you are saying, Singapore lets people move there leagally too easly. I can understand this. How does this differ greatly from the United states who have laws that are strict but THEN lets people come without papers? When 50% of the Mexicans in the united states just snuck in when nobody was looking how is that diffrent? Min wage for them is not there, they live 15 to an apartment, they send most of their money home and they can't live off what they make either.
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
The diff are:
1. your "mexicans" example is an exception rather than the norm - most people in most part of usa in most professions are not victim of your eg. Whereas in sg, it is now affecting the whole country and all levels of workers from professionals to labourers.
2. There is welfare for american citizens who are displaced by those mexicans - food-stamps, unemployment benefits.
I should let u know that I am familiar with US's situation. Much more than u are with SG's :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
ya ok, so its even worse in Singapore. Why not? Its a very small place. It could be overwelmed by imigration easly. Welfare and foodstamps? Better spit before you say that when you are in the united states. Both are seen as a huge waste of money to anyone not on them. Unemployment benefits only apply when you are laid off proper and only last 26 weeks. Mostly you get nothing and even when you get them its 66% of your normal. Try living on 66% of what was already too little.
realsamwise 3 years ago
whether welfare is good or bad is another issue for another day. Fact is:
1. Most americans r not affected by the small "mexican" example u cite.
2. Of those few americans affected, they have welfare to fall back on.
In sg,
1. Most singaproeans affected.
2. No welfare to fall back on.
You really do not need to intro me to USA's system. I am very familiar with it. And with Canada's too. Unfortunately, u know nuts abt our system. Sigh
wendyneo 3 years ago
realsamwise,
Intro u to sg's system:
1. foreiger applying work visa (non-immigrant) - law does not require employer to prove that a competent local cannnot be found.
2. foreigner applying for "green card" based on employment - same as above.
3. No min wage.
If u are an intelligent person, and I think u are, you will see that the combination of the above 3 means:
1. singaporeans are in deep shit.
2. We are not being sour grape.
3. Insulting to usa/canada's govt to compare them to us.
wendyneo 3 years ago
It sounds to me like you have a problem. Don't however assume that it is yours alone. Also don't assume that a change in the law will change it. We have those laws and what happends in singapore with the laws blessing happends here against the law. It is a tide that can't be stopped really. Poor people ARE going to move to rish areas one way or the other like it or not. Now its just how will we handle it. How is singapore doing it? Not well? Ok , fair enough.
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
We are not *assuming* that the problem is ours alone. We know it for a fact.
And how do we know? Because many Singaporeans have studied or worked in Canada/USA. We are familiar with how their employment-based green card system works, their welfare system and first hand encounters with americans. And so we know you are not stating the truth in your argument that the problem in canada/usa with the influx of mexicans is almost as bad. It's not. And many of us knows it 1st hand :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
I don't think I said it was almost as bad. Then, I do not live in the South west united states either. I would bet that they may have a diffrent viewpoint.
realsamwise 3 years ago
u said "sour grape". That's like saying canadian/american problem r almost as bad and the same problem is abt everywhere and hence we r "sour grape".
For, how else can we be sour grapes, if the situation is well under-control in usa, canada, australia, etc and is uniquely and really bad in singapore? :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
Because you hear the same argument with small local changes no matter where you go. The government of Canada is beging for people to move here. Do you think the PEOPLE here feel the same way? Hell no, They feel the same way you do. With less reason perhaps but the same language is used. NOBODY in ANY country wants more people
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
You are wrongly trivializing a big problem in singapore to a small one even without having visited us to compare 1st hand!
Canada's problem is NOWHERE near ours 'cos -to repeat-
1. employment-based PR = must ensure a suitable canadian cannot be found 1st = educated canadians not displaced.
2. point-based PR = lowly educated canadians do not have to face competition.
3. welfare system to fall back on.
Go see my video ("The Singapore government..."). Do u see that in canada?
wendyneo 3 years ago
Well thats interisting. Because I am an American and here on a green card and I do a job that any Canadian you knew how to use the internet could do.
realsamwise 3 years ago
relevance?
Firstly, u have not displaced the job of a plumber, car mechanic, construction worker etc.
Secondly, other canadians who know how to use the internet are also not displaced by you and if they were, they can get another job with their skill and if they can't find one, they can tide over with welfare temporarily.
It's the opposite situation in sg where any foreigners, skilled or unskilled r let in indiscriminately and no min wage and no welfare.
U r making me repeat myself.
wendyneo 3 years ago
So then its a lack of welfare and a min wage thats the big thorn?
realsamwise 3 years ago
No. And I have already made it clear, and so have this very video - it's the indiscriminate import of foreign workers at all levels of job from labourers to professionals. This causes singaporeans to be out of job. And for those with jobs, they have to take much lower wage. Isn't this what this video is about? The lack of welfare and min wage makes the problem much worse.
wendyneo 3 years ago
A lack of any form of welfare would be a fairly obvious problem
realsamwise 3 years ago
It seems to me that you major issue is not with people who Move to Singapore but people who come in on Temp work permits and that they displace and under price Singaporians for the low end jobs is that correct?
realsamwise 3 years ago
That's incorrect. I have already said many times - the problem in singapore is so hugh precisely because it covers all level of jobs. low-end are replaced by temp foreign worker. high-end are also replaced - by permanent workers who get PR ridiculously easily. You really need to read up more on sg's situation if u are interested.
wendyneo 3 years ago
How about starting by getting everyone in singapore to stop hiring maids from other countries. Just wondering, does your family have a maid? It seems common over there
realsamwise 3 years ago
Hiring maid or otherwise does not solve the issue. So I dont even know what the f you mean by "how abt starting by..."
I have made clear to you repeatedly - the issue is overwhelming influx of foreign workers both on temp and permanent basis, coupled with no min wage and no welfare, leading to disaster
Clearly, not hiring maid will not solve this issue. And you knew that very well, since you are not unintelligent.
Therefore, I do think you are trying to be waste my time. Hence the f-word.Bye.
wendyneo 3 years ago
I will take that as a "yes my family hires a made from another country"
realsamwise 3 years ago
Whether I hire or not hire a maid does not in any way helps in our debate of:
whether singapore's problem with foreigner workers is "sour grade" and "the same everywhere".
You have trivialize our situation and when pointed out by me, came up with inaccurate representation of problems in usa/canada (until u r reminded that singaporeans are v. familiar with situation there), and now cook up this strange "how about not having maid to solve problem" nonsense.
U r not very good at debating.
wendyneo 3 years ago
So then yes you do.
realsamwise 3 years ago
I am leaving now. Go get a life outside your PC. If not, go wank with another person. Not me.
wendyneo 3 years ago
Say hi to your imported maid for me
realsamwise 3 years ago
Hiring maids and paying them low wages is exploitation of foreign workers. Thats ANOTHER issue DIFFERENT fm issue at hand which is:
Is mass unemployment of singaporeans displaced by foreigners leading to homelessness and suicide (ONE ELDERLY PER DAY), the "same everywhere" and a "sour grape" mentality by Singaporeans?
I try to debate with u intelligently but clearly u r bent on trivializing our problem, no matter what. This "maid" thing is the latest evidence. So bye then. A waste of my time.
wendyneo 3 years ago
I will take that as a "yes my family hires a made from another country"
realsamwise 3 years ago
I guess I am not trying to say its "the same" exactly. Singapore is a very special place and you need not convince me that it does not need more people. I hate big cities and I would leap off a tall building if I lived in a place so full of people. I just ment that the responce of not wanting more people no matter where you live is a universial one. Reasons very but the debate boils down to the people in the over loaded bus resent the driver stopping to pick up more people.
realsamwise 3 years ago
What min. wage? Nobody makes min wage. Well not NOBODY but its so low that market forces demand wages that are higher then min in 90% of the united states and most of Canada. My kid makes more then min wage working at burger king part time. A min wage that is so low not even an Mexican would work for it is a joke anyway.
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
In other words, you r saying that in usa/canada, foreign workers get MORE than min wage.
Do I have to repeat myself again? Singapore has no min wage - meaning citizens are competing with imported foreign workers from 3rd world country willing to work at wages BELOW min amt needed to raise a family in sg. That's the reason why the govt refuse to have min wage - to ensure max company profit.
I of course do not need to lecture you on the neccessity of having min wage, do I? :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
Oh hell ya! people coming to Canada get FAR MORE. In fact you can't come to Canada unless you are EDUCATED EDUCATED EDUCATED or, married to someone who is. In the united states on the other hand, many of the people are takeing farm jobs, farm jobs don't have a min wage or one thats much much lower. So low even the "non documented" workers make more
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
so u see? in usa, it's (a)just farm job, and (b)they make more than min wage. In sg, it's (a) all level of jobs and (b)they (foreign workers from 3rd country) making way LESS than amt needed to survive in sg! (it's ok for them 'cos they cramp 15 pple per apt - no law. And sent most money home).
Also, to get employement-based PR in sg, law does NOT require employer to show an equivalent local cant be found!
This, combined with no min wage -- I think u should get the idea now :)
wendyneo 3 years ago
project2011,
fret not. I have just made a video to teach new settlers to Singapore what their future will be like. Click on my username and see my latest video: "The Singapore government welcomes...".
Oh, and if u want to emigrate, see my video: "Shine for Singapore..." for tips on how to do that. Cheers!
wendyneo 3 years ago
I am an American and I live in Canada. Every country in the world has the same issue. Canada is begging for new people while Canadians want fewer and the United states would crumble without hords of mexicans to do the nasty farm jobs yet Americans want them gone. In the end we are all the same. " I am here and I have a place to sit now close the doors and start the movie!"
realsamwise 3 years ago
realsamwise,
No, Singapore's issue is totally different: it is importing foreigners to become citizens to dilute electoral votes. USA/Canada does not do that. For a clearer explanation, see "YOUNG-PAP" of blogspot. Its July 30, 2008 article titled: "Government-owned forum tells FT to make police report against citizen" contains a long comment which explains clearly why Singapore's situation is absolutely unique in the world!
wendyneo 3 years ago
新加坡在我印象里是个很干净的城市,实际也是这样。但接触那里的人们才发现他们非常的势力,很瞧不起来自中国的游客。他们大概以为新加坡是天堂别的地方都不如新加坡,殊不知新加坡只是一个由长相萎缩、见利忘义的广东人组成的屎样小岛国。fuck singporeane
napoleonbot 3 years ago
u dont know much about S'pore since u ve been there sometime... i am a Hong Kong Chinese and have once been there for air transforing. Singporeans were quite friendly to me and didnt treat foreigners in a high-hat way... and some of them even speak Cantonese! XD
sakuraniwashun 3 years ago
napoleonbot,
是的,许多新加坡人实在非常讨厌中国人。但不是中国游客,而是中国移民。你或许是被误为中国移民。那个sakuraniwashun,就因为没有被误解,所以觉得新加坡人友善。
新加坡人讨厌中国移民是情有可原,完全可以理直气壮的。你若想知原因,可去看我的"Who is the Emperor of Singapore"和"The Singapore government welcomes..."两个录像的右首的"more info"。我在那儿解释得很清楚新加坡人为何完全有资格辱骂中国移民"f**k you Immigrants from China"!
wendyneo 3 years ago
You know the problem is? You are small, physically and mentally。你们新加坡为什么要吸引移民?因为你们缺乏人才,那么小的一个岛屿只有两所正规大学,拿什么去和别人竞争?要明白是新加坡在soliciting immigrant而不是反过来,如果没有外来的高素质移民,新加坡毫无竞争力。归根溯源,85%的新人也是中国移民后代。说中国话、用中华文字、砖头来f**k他们并不遥远的祖先。新加坡民风如此粗鄙、愚昧,但因一个"小"字。remember your grand parents are all Immigrants from China, you want to fuck them up, go ahead.
napoleonbot 3 years ago
napoleonbot, I know what is the problem, and that is you cant even tell the diff between govt and people.不是我们要,是政府要。你连政府与人民都分不清。悲哀。
为何你通篇替新加坡政府的政策说话。他们给你钱?所以新加坡人完全有资格辱骂前来新加坡的中国人-因为你们在新加坡时,喜欢参与本地政治,且是站在政府那边。就如你现在正为我政府当走狗,舔痣,捧卵脬。倘若你们在新加坡时,置身事外,我们根本不会辱骂你们。就如我们并没辱骂香港或台湾人。
You F**k people first, and hence I am f**king u back.自己先粗鄙,却要怪他人以牙还牙。又,老子明明是回敬你,在操你,你却刻意含血喷人,歪曲成我对祖先不敬。你他妈的中文不好,还跟我谈祖先。Listen carefully, I am f**king *YOU*, not ancestor. You bring up ancestor for f**k?
没头脑没逻辑,还辩个屁!
wendyneo 3 years ago
我可不是"前来新加坡的中国人",你们新加坡人自己才是,我只不过顺便去新加坡洒洒水而已。here you listen FUCK YOU SINK-A-POOR BITCH
napoleonbot 3 years ago
怎么?不再胡说八道,含血喷人说老子对祖宗不敬了?终于明白老子骂的是你?看来你这灰孙子还不是那么烂泥扶不上壁。呵呵!
你是孤儿,因此没个妈给你些家教?否则何以你先没头没脑的f**k人。而注意哟:老子可没有回敬f你。只不过接着与你解释新加坡人何以喜欢f 那些中国移民。你既然不是移民,与你无关,你他妈的现在又在f 老子干吗?想f,不就去找你妈咯。Go f**k* your own mom.
洒洒水?恐怕是去新加坡的著名红灯区,向你们输入新加坡的中国妓女洒洒精吧!对了,我也反对本国政府输入中国妓女。怎么样,你是否又要为政府的此政策辩护,说政府输入中国妓女好得很,拍政府马屁?哈哈!
wendyneo 3 years ago
我当然不会移民新加坡了,狗屎大的地方,还有那么多的鄙夷的本地人,给钱也不会去的。看你们几个无脑人可怜,老子只是提醒你,你们新加坡华人的祖先全是中国移民,你要fuck中国移民,你最好先把自己祖坟扒了直接干。
napoleonbot 3 years ago
你这疯子,照你的疯逻辑,反对英国人移民加拿大的加拿大人全都数典忘祖,应该去f**k他们祖宗了?这不是疯子的疯逻辑思维是什么?
但你不会如此骂加拿大人的。就只有针对新加坡时,不论是你这种"客人",或已移民新加坡的,都喜欢上报章拍马,指三道四。说到底,就是大国心态,仗势欺人。只不过如果觉得委屈,就索性别移民来这小国好了。你的同胞,即要移民又要拍政府马屁,又要骂新加坡人,看来是精神分裂了!
wendyneo 3 years ago
你这个狗养的王八蛋。如果新加坡是狗屎大的地方,那为什么还有那么多大圈仔过来呢?就算你想来这里我们也不会欢迎你这些王八。你以为你是谁?老把祖先挂在嘴,时代不同拉,我是华人,不是不要脸的大圈仔,我是新加坡人!我不欢迎你,只欢迎大中国的娘们在本地劈腿!越多越好!哈哈哈!!
triuna 3 years ago
新加坡在我印象里是个很干净的城市,实际也是这样。但接触那里的人们才发现他们非常的势力,很瞧不起来自中国的游客。他们大概以为新加坡是天堂别的地方都不如新加坡,殊不知新加坡只是一个由长相萎缩、见利忘义的广东人组成的屎样小岛国。fuck singporeane
napoleonbot 3 years ago
whaddya suggest smarty?
relaxxxxxxxx! there's only 1million foreigners in singapore. thats about. 1 in 5 o...-time out.... holy shit. ONE IN FIVE????
time to follow the foot steps of russian mosters fighting for nationality.
MrQ1989 3 years ago 2
While I am now a US Citizen, I take great pride in my heritage and my country of birth. Singapore is a great country and like all great countries, will encounter growing pains. Here in the US, there is a sentiment against immigrants, legal or illegal, about taking low-level jobs like picking fruit or washing dishes. Why? It's because the youth of today feel like these jobs are beneath them. Get a grip, work your way up the system and respect will be bestowed when it has been earned!
leslietmcse 3 years ago 2
Leslietmcse,
You do not know the situation in singapore. Hence your comparison of american immigration situation with singapore's is nonsensical. For a start, usa is not importing immigrants to dilute votes. And so on. Read more and respect will be bestowed upon you when you make more sense. I recommend: "YOUNG-PAP" of blogspot. Its article dated Jule 30, titled: "Government-owned forum tells FT to make police report against citizen" has a comment that explains why we r against foreigners.
wendyneo 3 years ago
My company is hiring. I have 2 open positions. Advertized for 2 months. I received 60 resumes out of which only 2 Singaporeans! If there is no foreigners, my company will close down!
pakp88 3 years ago
Maybe you offered 'cheapskate' salary meant for people who are able to spend in 3rd world countries. With long hours. Put yourself as a Singaporean with families to feed on the job (you are) offering. Will it be pathetic if you were the one reading that advertisement of yours in the first place?
enikisser 3 years ago
Hello...just like any other ads, salary is not even stated on the ads. And our company is a reputable MNC offering competitive salary in the industry!
pakp88 3 years ago
Blame blame blame. Blame no opportunities. Blame field not level. How about blame self?
jmec38sr 3 years ago
The future generation of Singapore may have parents who are ex-foreigners, just as many of our parents are not born in Singapore. Before we make comments on their parents, please think about ours.
And please, we have held our heads high all this while~! Instead, we should be the ones encouraging the foreigners in our land to hold their heads high. Why do we need to belittle ourselves?
LogicPse 3 years ago
My parents came here but did not displace any locals of jobs. They took up citizenship the moment it was granted. They never for one moment intended to use this place as a stepping stone to go elsewhere or back where they came from. Unlike most of the present bunch of foreigners.
raffles6164 3 years ago
singaporean are kiasi.. i have met many singaporean who complain a lot about the govt, and yet they told me they vote for PAP during the election... let hope the future generation of singaporean are different.
tanlee 3 years ago 4
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Get real, without the foreigners, we will NEVER make it. REALITY HURTS.
StevenLim1 3 years ago
you're advocating the right for other foreign talents to show you what correct grammar is.
spadestick1 3 years ago 2
If you want to spread a message, do it in proper English please.
simil4n 3 years ago
Time for a change.
FairFr0zeN 3 years ago
good video, correct the grammar please
spadestick1 3 years ago 2
love it! For Singaporean Singapore!
lesphantom 3 years ago
think there's some grammer errors. singaporeans DON'T not doesn't lack talent
time to HOLD not held
simonramon 3 years ago
u wanna correct someones english mistake when you cant even spell grammar. +1 to you.
scafT 3 years ago 2
anyway the point is to correct the grammar mistake on the video. wat's ur point of picking on my spelling mistake?
simonramon 3 years ago
because its ironic?? youre trying to correct someone when you have a mistake stuck on your forehead for everyone to see. ironic no? ironman?
scafT 3 years ago
you're a perfect example of singaporean hating on singaporean. fuck you for dissing simonramon.
MrQ1989 3 years ago
time for a change..
time to change history in the next elections.
great video, will spread it around!
geekroute 3 years ago
I like this: 'Singaporeans doesn't lack talents...we just lack opportunities'.
I don't like this: 'Time to HELD our heads high'...imagine foreigners reading this.
mahawarrior 3 years ago
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Foreigners will laugh and say, " that's why we r here!' HAHAHAHA
StevenLim1 3 years ago