There is no indication that Horus was preaching in a temple when he was 12. In fact, Massey indicates that Hours the child was depicted as a “weakling.” That doesn’t jive with story of Jesus preaching in the temple. Again this appears to have been a confabulation from Acharya and repeated by others.
There is no star that heralded Horus’s birth nor is there any angel announcing it. Archarya in a footnote in The Origins of Christianity indicates that that there are three stars named the three kings in Orion and then relates this to the birth of Jesus. When we look to the stories regarding Horus, we find no star or angel announcing his birth
I can find nothing that mentions that the birth of Horus was announced by an angel or witnessed by shepherds. I have found that Horus was born in a swamp, which is a pretty unlikely place for shepherds. In addition Acharya mentions that Horus was born in a cave. Massey makes no mention of this, although he does represent that Mithra was born in a cave.
Horus’s mother is Isis. Isis was married to Osiris. We do not know for what length of time, but presumably the marriage was consummated. Whether it was or wasn’t doesn’t matter though. After Osiris is killed, Isis puts him back together again (he was hacked into 14 pieces) except for his penis which was tossed in a river or a lake. Iris fashions a substitute penis for him, humps him and here comes Horus. There is nothing virginal about that.
Yes, I agree that Jesus is the reincarnation of Horus that was reintroduce by the Ptolemaic dynasty. Listen, for all those who want to know the truth the New Testament was created and designed for the hebrew israelites so that they can be absorbed into Greek way of life. Many Uncle Tom Hellenized Alexandrian Israelites developed this Greek New Testament from the Old Testament to smoothly and deceitfully to assimilate. Why else is Jesus/Horus only sent unto the lost sheep of Israel to CONVERT!
Christianity was not founded by Jesus it was founded by Paul Jesus came for the House of Isreal the Jews and came to fulfill the laws of Moses the Torah.
If you have a look of every picture of Jesus in a church or any picture there is always a Sun circling around the head of Jesus I question that all the time.
This is true...and much more..people can believe what they want but you can't get away from fact... and facts are all there to see unlike any evidence of Jesus. oh and nothing to do with satanic worship....
Dragon people/Asia, Snake People/Native Americans, Crocodile People/Aborigini's, St. Patrick ran the snakes out of Ireland/ Druids, Summerians/Annunaki, Of course Satan could design anything to deceive God's children. He is a liar and the truth is not in him.
All of the pagan mystery schools were started by Lucifer and the rest of the fallen angels that came to the earth. Lucifer was a Seraphim/ Burning Ones in Hebrew. Like lit, or lumen, or illuminated or illuminati. Seraph in Hebrew means Serpent. That is why Lucifer is described in reptillian terms in the Garden of Eden. Also why all of the country's with these mystery school religions have a common folklore about reptillian type creatures. Chitahuri/Africa, Naga's/India, Ginn/Middle East,
@trx125tracy69 Why would he do that, knowing that humans would start to war over which one was more true? This is just another special-pleading argument.
When Christ asks you at judgment, "Who do you say I am?" Make sure you give the pre-Novus Ordo Council answer, "God." If you give God the common Masonic answer out of the Gnostic bible, "you are the son of a burning bush fire (the lord)", you will quickly learn what this world was about and you will have an eternity to pay for it. As the Traditional Catholic Church breathes its last breath, the New Order replaces it. Will you have the knowledge to stand?
@NaciBitch So where is the truth.Who told us this from the begining.For i knew that lol.That is why they are all stuck in a box.For we did bring down the sun.Isaiah 14v12 kjv the morning star.For they was full of lies.And this is what they do there.Isaiah 44v10-kjv We are like the water.But they will try to burn you.That is why they see the last days. What comes around,gos around.For it is on them.What do you think?
It is possible that Horus is also a plagiarism of Jesus and Christianity, if you think the opposite took place! And, as far as i am concerned, Chritianity is more genuine.
@tmat04 sadly, you are misguided and wrong. The mythology surrounding Osiris/Horus predates Christianity by at least 2,000 years. Therefore, when Christianity established itself as a dominant religion, it had little choice but to assimilate the practices and traditions that were already in existence. Few Christian scholars dispute this notion. On what grounds - and what sources can you cite - to support your point of view - a point of view which denies conventionally accepted history??
@GenerationEpic90 According to Plutarch, a 1st century historian that Harpocrates - the Greek name for Horus - "was born about the Winter Solstice" (Dec 21st to 24th): source = Plutarch, "Isis and Osiris" (65, 387C). Horus' mother is referred to as the "Great Virgin" at the temple of Seti I at Abydos, built circa 1300BC: source Reginald E Witt "Isis in the Ancient World". Also, In the 10th hour of the "Book of the Amduat", Horus is depicted leading the souls of 12 followers to everlasting life.
@GenerationEpic90 Furthermore, Osiris/Horus was also resurrected 3 days after his death. Reverend. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at University of Göttingen. In an article entitled "The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body", published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, Dr. Bertholet writes:" Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again." Restored 2 life post death = resurrection!
@GenerationEpic90 These sources are scholarly, including Christian professors of theology, classical historians and respected Egyptologists ... demonstrating to anyone who is prepared to have an open mind that some of the claims made in Zeitgeist can indeed be supported by respected scholarly opinion! The early church mythologised details about the life of Christ by assimilating beliefs and traditions of earlier, "pagan" faiths - it's called cultural evolution and is not hard/wrong to accept!
@EyeofHorus33 I don't care who's opinion you have on the matter. I'm looking at the pyramid texts, the coffin texts, and the temple reliefs...I'm not talking about people's opinions.
@GenerationEpic90 You ought to read my comment more closely then for Horus' mother is described as "Great Virgin" in a temple relief at the temple of Seti I at Abydos. Also in the 7th hour of the Book of the Amduat Horus is enthroned before 12 followers while in the 10th hour of the Book of the Amduat, Horus in leads the souls of 12 followers to everlasting life ... erm, Jesus and his apostles anyone? I think that you will find that the Book of the Amduat is a pyramid text. You need to research!
@GenerationEpic90 And to state "I don't care [whose] opinion you have on the matter" is, frankly, indicative of your stubborn refusal to even acknowledge that there is a body of evidence on which these scholars - experts in their field - have based their findings.
@GenerationEpic90 In the Pyramid texts of Unas, the earliest, complete and authorative corpus of Heliopolitanism, the Osirian rebirth and Solar illumination of the divine king are described. It is clear ascension to Re is impossible without passing through the kingdom of Osiris. Re is the state of "illumination" or enlightenment, the acension of the soul to what Christians call Heaven. Here is another pyramid text - perhaps you should look closely at this one, too! LOL
@GenerationEpic90 And isn't Jesus alleged to have said something along the lines of "Nobody comes to the father except through me"? ... So nobody achieves Re (ascension into Heaven) without passing through the Kingdom of Osiris (also known as Horus) ... In fact Horus rises up out of Osiris ... like God the Father and God the Son ... doesn't this all sound a little familiar to Christians? Osiris was resurrected or "restored to life" after "3 days in the waters". Look in the Bible ; Jonah 2:1
@EyeofHorus33 Ra does not = ascension. Ra is a being- more specifically the Sun God. The "Kingdom of Osiris" you speak of is also called the "underworld." So essentially what you just said is that nobody achieve's the sun God unless they pass thru the underworld. Do you have a source for this mentioned in myth? The two versions of the Jumilhac Papyrus say that Osiris was cut into 14 pieces collected by Isis in twelve days. You say that Osiris was dead for 3 days. Where is your source?
@GenerationEpic90 I did not write "Ra" - I wrote that nobody achieves RE - as Horus rising becomes Osiris. Reverend. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at the University of Göttingen in an article titled "The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body" published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, states: "According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again."
@GenerationEpic90 The Horus/Ra/Re/Osiris cycle indicates the passage of the sun through the day. Harpocrates, the child-Horus represents the morning sun while Osiris is the sun at noon. Re is indicative of the sun's daily death as indicated by Spell 62 in the Book of the Dead…THE DECEASED, who is Re, pleads to have "command of the water," saying, 'May I be granted power over the waters…' So, Re is associated with death and Horus rising out of Re is ascension
@GenerationEpic90 With regard to the sun god's nightly "resurrection", I refer you to egyptologist Dr. Jacobus van Dijk at the University of Gronigen who writes "According to the Pyramid Texts, the sun god purifies himself in the morning in the Lake of the Field of Rushes." (Source: Murdock, CIE, 247)
Well done!!! How can people still believe Christianity is in any way original, or that Jesus even existed? Read Egyptian myths. Read Greek myths. All of it is myth!
The lord Jesus is Gods only son who die for our sins who is coming to judge the world. If you dont believe this look at his prophecies conserning this world they have come true and right now they are coming true. The lord JESUS predicted the anti christ would come out of rome would sit in the christian church would kill the saints would make a new world order controling the nations of the world, right now the pope did and still does this he controls the illumanati and the new world order 4 satan
It is proven scientifically, historically, religiously and psychologically that Jesus is a deity of Satan. To call God or the son of God Jesus is to call God Satan. It is the disgusting ignorance of Cretins white supremest god that early Christians were thought to hate the entire world.
@imnotstpid Oh yea I thought I mentioned that Jesus and Satan are the same superstitious deity. At the end of dark age Saturnalia and Constantine's campaign promise to make the pagans holy they named Satan after his father superstitious father Zeus and called him HeyZeus, or Jesus. However as the same deity they never existed. Nevertheless, we still celebrate the brutal Hostel type murdering of Christmas dinner guest&death to the world on Saturnalia's Satanic Christmas from 12-21 thru 12-25.
@imnotstpid Though we know Jesus and Satan didn't actually exist. Satan Saturn represented death to the world, destruction to the world, the end of the world,or 12-21-2012.According to the Great Pyramid allegorical this is the day God descends into the bottomless pit to fight Satan who thinks he can kill God on 12-21-2012 which also show up in the Mayan Calendar as the end of the world.12-25 isn't Gods birthday its the birthday of the creation of Satan.Gods birthday is 3=21 not his death day.
I'm sorry any God that can brutally murder his son (after supper) for any reason is not a God but a devil. Fittingly it was in following the traditions of Saturnalia why Rome murdered its dinner guests on Christmas. But perhaps it was the Cretins in Rome doing that. Christians worship the devil of everything including white supremacy and don't know it. From Satan evils and brutality in Saturnalia to the Vatican, Rome and America when have any Christian nation proven itself to be holy? Never.
Jesus is not Osiris,Heru,Horus,Quetzacoatl,or Yeshua. Jesus was Saturn or Satan who's name was changed to Heyzeus to be named after his father Zeus.Anything else is a blaspheming lie&false witness unto God.Not to mention ignorant.Christianity is from the dark age of Saturnalia Christmas celebrations of the Satan God Saturn where they cannibalized their victims&ate their flesh&drank their blood in a victorious communion after brutally murdering them.Cretin Christianity is a devil underworld
Jesus wasn't beheaded correct that and translations are just what they Yashua to Jesus Horus I guess was Jesus since he could of came earlier than we think I do know I ray God answers.
@mischellewright69 Hi-- re. the "beheaded" comment - I also had to rewind and reread it ... it was talking about their Baptizers ... NOT Jesus or Horus. :)
How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
Emperor Constantine changed Yeshua’s name and nature to that of a Sun god, calling him Hail Zeus. Constantine destroyed and outlawed the scriptures of the original Christians that contained 800 books and created a college for them in the sun god catholic church to follow or die trying not to. The scriptures that remained were corrupted to make Yeshua look like a sun God. Constantine added Hellenistic baptism to Matthew 28:19.
u must research the council of nicea, the council of ephesus and the council of chalcedon...the donation of constitine to sylvester the first and the melchite egyptian priesthood....hotep
Dude are you retarded? Horus is not the same as Jesus. There's no way. I'm an Ancient Egyptian(not the religion) and a Christian. Trust me you're wrong.
Interesting!! But there were some mistakes. For example. A beattle isn't a sign for christ!! But really interesting. I've got one question: Where do you got your informations about Horus?
All anyone has to do is to get some information regarding Horus. There maybe some differances, but there are simply to many paralles to deny that the concept of Jesus came from Horus Egyptian God. If a person cannott see or admit the paralles, then you are closed minded, brain washed, or both.
The first one that comes to mind is Lee Stroble and "The Case for the Real Jesus". You can also find a lot of this info on Wikipedia, but that is not the greatest source.
When I am back in my office later this week I will send you more info on other sources. National Geographic surprisingly has a lot of proof of Israel and Jesus.
i already found Lee earlier when you wrote this haha! its hard to find a true credible source without doing some serious research on a topic such as egypts ancient religion and their gods. thank you pastor. godbless and be prepared!
Satan must know some paterns that HAVE to be fullfilled by the Son of YHWH. the old serpent must have a deep knowledge of many stuff compared to us. he and his demons offspring have alwayz wanted [and will want] to pretend to be the Messiah and supplant Him.
That will happen again when the Antichrist comes role playing the second coming of Christ
It's all the same story that was so popular back in those days, different location, time, dates, and names. The details are different but it ends up the same meaning for example the resurection with Horus was him being price back together while jesus body wasn't in his tomb but in the end both came back to life but Horus was still a blueprint for religion but with some minor tweeks
Jesus is a wanna be god becus Hours came before jesus and jesus stole is story such as bron from a virgin lady and was crucified at the end, bahahaa....
Ok, the whole thing about religion is to bring HOPE, make you feel better over bad situations or yourself... etc.
BUT!..isn't the idea of an after life part of Egyptian Mythology way before jesus came to the picture?...starting from that fact, can somebody tell me the difference?
NO!!
Both life after death means no other than life after death...now ...the 1st to claim it, is the one credited of the idea (Egyptian Mythology). Any synonym of this, is simply copied.
The "pagan copycat theroy" wasn't fabricated and has not been debunked.
Prophecies do not prove anything; because one book mentions something will happen and in the next it comes through doesn't mean that they actually happened. Prophecy and diabolical mimicry is just a convenient deus ex machina for when you have to throw down and admit that similarities exist.
Horus and Jesus have zero connection, the truth of each is outside of utube and Zeitgeist. This vid is a joke and the info is from the Zeitgeist movie that HAS been completely debunked. 2000 of 2500 of the Bible's prophesies have come true, 500 left in the final days.....
2.Father-Son, relationship precede most of the religions. Life after death concept was given to Moses, The first to write a book for the Bible, this was already evident prior to man. Again if you had done research you would know that the other gods have almost zero similarity to Jesus' story, Utube, atheist pages, and the Zeitgeist movie are not sources of truths(but rather poison). University encyclopedias/ books......
Not sure about Horus, but there is proof out there that Jesus actually existed. Every major religion acknowledged that he existed. They just don't all acknowledge that he is the son of God
you are right..you said "etc." and there are many other lies.I don't know why they did it but in Zeitgeist there are many misleading lies..after watching it I did my own research and I could find only a tiny part of what they said about the similarities between these two figures.There was an egyptologist, Massey, who started with this but his claims have been constantly dismissed by reputable and "objective" experts...bullshit created in order to confuse people further..succeeding I am afraid.
Boohoohoo, 'christmas' is a combination of the word christ and mass. Christmas is a roman catholic word, it mean 'christ dead' celebrating christmas is a tradition of the catholic church! Bugagaga
boohoohoo some mufuckas are gonna cry because its christmassss!! its fuckin horustmas! jesus christ did exist,he is the messiah but theres som much stuffs that have been modified
To be more precise Isis used her "magic powers" to "resurrect" her murdered husband Osiris after throwing his penis into the Nile and keeping the rest of his body..Then she was impregnated by him..doesn't sound like an "enlightened" version of Horus' birth and definitely not the same as Jesus does it?..Penis into the Nile?Magic powers?Guys..open your eyes and don't take for absolute truth everything you are told..create your own ideas after checking things in person instead of a link on the net!
Its amazing how the Zeitgeist movie swayed people into believing something, just by taking their word for it, and never actually doing ones own personal research for the truths. It just shows how gullible and easily brainwashed people can be and are.
I personaly did years of research about many gods from ancient cultures WAY before the jesus time and really match with the Zeitgeist movie info. Thats why I bought it...in order to explain in 45mins all those FACTS to people that ask me the why of stoped believing in that tale created in 325ac by Cesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus & the Council of Nicea. The fear & bloodshed make all those gods be forgotten..obviously. You take the word for it too.... with the bible!
Sorry, that you have bought into the lies of the movie, that so many others have too. I will PM you the correct info,links etc..Ones from university libraries, and scholars that have actually researched the lol info the german producers made in the Zeitgeist movie. If I were you I would get your money back you have been scammed.
The most important thing FOR ME here is the fact that jesus story shares a lot similarities with other gods created hundreds of years before him...and even more, writings teachings of astrologers.
My conclusion is that Constantinus and Nicea council put it all together, taking from here and there to make one tale that have it all, fantastic enough to make people "wow it".
Works for that time indeed...THAT TIME. I'll say no more.
ahhh come on horus=satan and you say horus =Jesus you are twisting things around dude this is already debunked about zeitgeist so this vid is really crap......
@bernoussi4ever Jesus Christ had educated us that Jesus = Jesus and Horus = Horus and he had also educated us that Horus was never Satan too. However, Satan had terribly influenced Horus as Satan had done the similar evil thing to Pharoah too at when both Horus and Pharaoh had wanted to be idolized and/or worshipped. Gladly, Jesus Christ had also taught us the same #1 commandment as Moses from God had also passed on to us: Worship God.
These facts don't mean they are the same person, according to Carl Jung they share the same archetype (platonic idea), something that is also shared with Buddha, Krisna and other saviour heroes....
But many pagans use the likeness to devalue Christianity as though Christians stole it. Jesus will always be the favorite sun-hero in our western times so we can't devalue his message just because he shares a platonic idea with a long-gone myth.
منور يا عم والله صدقت دين حورس إبن الشمس والله قد كرمهم وشرفهم الإسلام بإسم أهل الذمة فقط لوجود بعض من الكلمات الربانية التي فلتت من التحريف فهم في الحقيقة وثنيين نجسيين
Jesus is the reincarnation of horus
J455I4 1 day ago
Jesus is the reincarnation of horus
J455I4 1 day ago
and Horus' father Osiris was the one who was Killed by his brother Set, and Osiris was resurrected by his wife/sister Isis who is Horus' mother....
elmciti 1 month ago
only the priests were baptized in ancient Egypt
elmciti 1 month ago
Horus was never baptized in any of the Horus stories.
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
There is no indication that Horus was preaching in a temple when he was 12. In fact, Massey indicates that Hours the child was depicted as a “weakling.” That doesn’t jive with story of Jesus preaching in the temple. Again this appears to have been a confabulation from Acharya and repeated by others.
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
There is no star that heralded Horus’s birth nor is there any angel announcing it. Archarya in a footnote in The Origins of Christianity indicates that that there are three stars named the three kings in Orion and then relates this to the birth of Jesus. When we look to the stories regarding Horus, we find no star or angel announcing his birth
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
I can find nothing that mentions that the birth of Horus was announced by an angel or witnessed by shepherds. I have found that Horus was born in a swamp, which is a pretty unlikely place for shepherds. In addition Acharya mentions that Horus was born in a cave. Massey makes no mention of this, although he does represent that Mithra was born in a cave.
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
Horus’s mother is Isis. Isis was married to Osiris. We do not know for what length of time, but presumably the marriage was consummated. Whether it was or wasn’t doesn’t matter though. After Osiris is killed, Isis puts him back together again (he was hacked into 14 pieces) except for his penis which was tossed in a river or a lake. Iris fashions a substitute penis for him, humps him and here comes Horus. There is nothing virginal about that.
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
What lies.................
Andytheantiathiest 1 month ago
Yes, I agree that Jesus is the reincarnation of Horus that was reintroduce by the Ptolemaic dynasty. Listen, for all those who want to know the truth the New Testament was created and designed for the hebrew israelites so that they can be absorbed into Greek way of life. Many Uncle Tom Hellenized Alexandrian Israelites developed this Greek New Testament from the Old Testament to smoothly and deceitfully to assimilate. Why else is Jesus/Horus only sent unto the lost sheep of Israel to CONVERT!
biil30020 1 month ago
Christianity was not founded by Jesus it was founded by Paul Jesus came for the House of Isreal the Jews and came to fulfill the laws of Moses the Torah.
MrMelosgirl 1 month ago
If you have a look of every picture of Jesus in a church or any picture there is always a Sun circling around the head of Jesus I question that all the time.
MrMelosgirl 1 month ago
The world has stolen everything from the black Egyptions ...... All that we know came from Africa.
rasdennis 2 months ago
good job!! you watched Zeitgeist!!
MrAmericanzombie 2 months ago
Horus is not the sun god ra is
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-Yehoshua HaMashiach = 173 (english) 313 (reverse)
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He is not Son of God. He is the Sungod
andredoran 3 months ago
also Krishna was a "son" of god. So that makes Jesus Horus and Krishna all seen with a solar disc behind their heads, same damn story, X3!!!!
explain that?
TheAten12 4 months ago
Correction, Christians don't know the exact date when Jesus was born
And there is no such myth among the ancient Egyptians Herot planning to kill Horus
Horus was never baptized
Horus never had 12 followers
Horus didn't walk on water
Horus, not crucified
Horus will not reign for 1000 years
Please, study Egyptian myths by any cost
LocoRico89 5 months ago
@LocoRico89 Dude you're a fool!!!! Christianity is STOLEN from the Egyptians!!!! Deal with it!!!!
MrAmericanzombie 2 months ago
@MrAmericanzombie No need to yell...Just the parallels of Jesus and Horus is obscure. Jesus was not a war god
LocoRico89 2 months ago
This is true...and much more..people can believe what they want but you can't get away from fact... and facts are all there to see unlike any evidence of Jesus. oh and nothing to do with satanic worship....
roseipk 5 months ago
@roseipk Just like I need more cowbell, I need more references backing the so called "facts". Indeed, "believe" what you want.
divud123 5 months ago
Horus is worshipped by world leaders... but most of their plans are so satanic and diabolic
SilkEclipse 5 months ago
Dragon people/Asia, Snake People/Native Americans, Crocodile People/Aborigini's, St. Patrick ran the snakes out of Ireland/ Druids, Summerians/Annunaki, Of course Satan could design anything to deceive God's children. He is a liar and the truth is not in him.
aimeecurry46 5 months ago
All of the pagan mystery schools were started by Lucifer and the rest of the fallen angels that came to the earth. Lucifer was a Seraphim/ Burning Ones in Hebrew. Like lit, or lumen, or illuminated or illuminati. Seraph in Hebrew means Serpent. That is why Lucifer is described in reptillian terms in the Garden of Eden. Also why all of the country's with these mystery school religions have a common folklore about reptillian type creatures. Chitahuri/Africa, Naga's/India, Ginn/Middle East,
aimeecurry46 5 months ago
This is such a stupid theory.
vwilkins4 5 months ago
Those who wear sunblock to the beach are denying jesus...lol
paulksycki 5 months ago
@paulksycki lol
StanPoet 4 months ago
God is God,and the son of God has visited all people at differant times,he was seen to them as they wanted to see him for that time period
trx125tracy69 6 months ago
@trx125tracy69 Why would he do that, knowing that humans would start to war over which one was more true? This is just another special-pleading argument.
danieljliversLXXXIX 5 months ago
Wait so you're saying that Jesus was Horus so Horus is not Satan... I'm confused and why would Jesus have a head of a falkan?
Babisinge 6 months ago
All of this egyptian bullshit is satanic.
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fatimamovement 7 months ago
this is the same spirit you morons...Gods too must somethines take a diffrent manifestation...and yes...Horus is Jesus...that so cool!
NaciBitch 7 months ago
@NaciBitch So where is the truth.Who told us this from the begining.For i knew that lol.That is why they are all stuck in a box.For we did bring down the sun.Isaiah 14v12 kjv the morning star.For they was full of lies.And this is what they do there.Isaiah 44v10-kjv We are like the water.But they will try to burn you.That is why they see the last days. What comes around,gos around.For it is on them.What do you think?
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EarthlingChild 7 months ago
It is possible that Horus is also a plagiarism of Jesus and Christianity, if you think the opposite took place! And, as far as i am concerned, Chritianity is more genuine.
tmat04 7 months ago
@tmat04 sadly, you are misguided and wrong. The mythology surrounding Osiris/Horus predates Christianity by at least 2,000 years. Therefore, when Christianity established itself as a dominant religion, it had little choice but to assimilate the practices and traditions that were already in existence. Few Christian scholars dispute this notion. On what grounds - and what sources can you cite - to support your point of view - a point of view which denies conventionally accepted history??
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
aLL THOSE THINGS THINGS U SAY MAKE HORUS SIMILAR TO JC ARE JUST A LOTTA B.S, IS ALL LIES AND BS
tikizia1981 8 months ago
1. there were not 3 wise men in the Bible.
2. Horus was born in a swamp/marsh.
3. Meri- is a title it means "beloved," it is not a name.
4. No ages are ever mentioned of Horus, only Harsiesis (Heru the younger) and Horus the Elder. Miracles are only associated with Harsiesis.
5. Horus had 4 demi-god followers called the Heru-shemsu, not 12 disciples.
6. Crucifixion didnt exist in ancient egypt.
I could go on. Where are your sources btw? A quick google search debunked a lot of these.
GenerationEpic90 8 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 According to Plutarch, a 1st century historian that Harpocrates - the Greek name for Horus - "was born about the Winter Solstice" (Dec 21st to 24th): source = Plutarch, "Isis and Osiris" (65, 387C). Horus' mother is referred to as the "Great Virgin" at the temple of Seti I at Abydos, built circa 1300BC: source Reginald E Witt "Isis in the Ancient World". Also, In the 10th hour of the "Book of the Amduat", Horus is depicted leading the souls of 12 followers to everlasting life.
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 Furthermore, Osiris/Horus was also resurrected 3 days after his death. Reverend. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at University of Göttingen. In an article entitled "The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body", published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, Dr. Bertholet writes:" Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again." Restored 2 life post death = resurrection!
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 These sources are scholarly, including Christian professors of theology, classical historians and respected Egyptologists ... demonstrating to anyone who is prepared to have an open mind that some of the claims made in Zeitgeist can indeed be supported by respected scholarly opinion! The early church mythologised details about the life of Christ by assimilating beliefs and traditions of earlier, "pagan" faiths - it's called cultural evolution and is not hard/wrong to accept!
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@EyeofHorus33 I don't care who's opinion you have on the matter. I'm looking at the pyramid texts, the coffin texts, and the temple reliefs...I'm not talking about people's opinions.
GenerationEpic90 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 You ought to read my comment more closely then for Horus' mother is described as "Great Virgin" in a temple relief at the temple of Seti I at Abydos. Also in the 7th hour of the Book of the Amduat Horus is enthroned before 12 followers while in the 10th hour of the Book of the Amduat, Horus in leads the souls of 12 followers to everlasting life ... erm, Jesus and his apostles anyone? I think that you will find that the Book of the Amduat is a pyramid text. You need to research!
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 And to state "I don't care [whose] opinion you have on the matter" is, frankly, indicative of your stubborn refusal to even acknowledge that there is a body of evidence on which these scholars - experts in their field - have based their findings.
Denial, my friend, is not a river in Egypt. LOL
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 In the Pyramid texts of Unas, the earliest, complete and authorative corpus of Heliopolitanism, the Osirian rebirth and Solar illumination of the divine king are described. It is clear ascension to Re is impossible without passing through the kingdom of Osiris. Re is the state of "illumination" or enlightenment, the acension of the soul to what Christians call Heaven. Here is another pyramid text - perhaps you should look closely at this one, too! LOL
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 And isn't Jesus alleged to have said something along the lines of "Nobody comes to the father except through me"? ... So nobody achieves Re (ascension into Heaven) without passing through the Kingdom of Osiris (also known as Horus) ... In fact Horus rises up out of Osiris ... like God the Father and God the Son ... doesn't this all sound a little familiar to Christians? Osiris was resurrected or "restored to life" after "3 days in the waters". Look in the Bible ; Jonah 2:1
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@EyeofHorus33 Ra does not = ascension. Ra is a being- more specifically the Sun God. The "Kingdom of Osiris" you speak of is also called the "underworld." So essentially what you just said is that nobody achieve's the sun God unless they pass thru the underworld. Do you have a source for this mentioned in myth? The two versions of the Jumilhac Papyrus say that Osiris was cut into 14 pieces collected by Isis in twelve days. You say that Osiris was dead for 3 days. Where is your source?
GenerationEpic90 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 I did not write "Ra" - I wrote that nobody achieves RE - as Horus rising becomes Osiris. Reverend. Dr. Alfred Bertholet, a theologian and professor at the University of Göttingen in an article titled "The Pre-Christian Belief in the Resurrection of the Body" published in The American Journal of Theology by the University of Chicago Press, states: "According to the faith of later times, Osiris was three days and three nights in the waters before he was restored to life again."
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 The Horus/Ra/Re/Osiris cycle indicates the passage of the sun through the day. Harpocrates, the child-Horus represents the morning sun while Osiris is the sun at noon. Re is indicative of the sun's daily death as indicated by Spell 62 in the Book of the Dead…THE DECEASED, who is Re, pleads to have "command of the water," saying, 'May I be granted power over the waters…' So, Re is associated with death and Horus rising out of Re is ascension
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
@GenerationEpic90 With regard to the sun god's nightly "resurrection", I refer you to egyptologist Dr. Jacobus van Dijk at the University of Gronigen who writes "According to the Pyramid Texts, the sun god purifies himself in the morning in the Lake of the Field of Rushes." (Source: Murdock, CIE, 247)
EyeofHorus33 7 months ago
Well done!!! How can people still believe Christianity is in any way original, or that Jesus even existed? Read Egyptian myths. Read Greek myths. All of it is myth!
GodlessMorality 8 months ago
The lord Jesus is Gods only son who die for our sins who is coming to judge the world. If you dont believe this look at his prophecies conserning this world they have come true and right now they are coming true. The lord JESUS predicted the anti christ would come out of rome would sit in the christian church would kill the saints would make a new world order controling the nations of the world, right now the pope did and still does this he controls the illumanati and the new world order 4 satan
vladimirkovalski 8 months ago
It is proven scientifically, historically, religiously and psychologically that Jesus is a deity of Satan. To call God or the son of God Jesus is to call God Satan. It is the disgusting ignorance of Cretins white supremest god that early Christians were thought to hate the entire world.
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
@princeadeshoga its proven scientifically that none of them ever existed :P
imnotstpid 8 months ago
@imnotstpid Oh yea I thought I mentioned that Jesus and Satan are the same superstitious deity. At the end of dark age Saturnalia and Constantine's campaign promise to make the pagans holy they named Satan after his father superstitious father Zeus and called him HeyZeus, or Jesus. However as the same deity they never existed. Nevertheless, we still celebrate the brutal Hostel type murdering of Christmas dinner guest&death to the world on Saturnalia's Satanic Christmas from 12-21 thru 12-25.
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
@imnotstpid Though we know Jesus and Satan didn't actually exist. Satan Saturn represented death to the world, destruction to the world, the end of the world,or 12-21-2012.According to the Great Pyramid allegorical this is the day God descends into the bottomless pit to fight Satan who thinks he can kill God on 12-21-2012 which also show up in the Mayan Calendar as the end of the world.12-25 isn't Gods birthday its the birthday of the creation of Satan.Gods birthday is 3=21 not his death day.
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
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I'm sorry any God that can brutally murder his son (after supper) for any reason is not a God but a devil. Fittingly it was in following the traditions of Saturnalia why Rome murdered its dinner guests on Christmas. But perhaps it was the Cretins in Rome doing that. Christians worship the devil of everything including white supremacy and don't know it. From Satan evils and brutality in Saturnalia to the Vatican, Rome and America when have any Christian nation proven itself to be holy? Never.
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
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Jesus is Lucifer. Who would dare compare Yeshua, Heru, Osiris or God to Lucifer?
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
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Jesus is not Osiris,Heru,Horus,Quetzacoatl,or Yeshua. Jesus was Saturn or Satan who's name was changed to Heyzeus to be named after his father Zeus.Anything else is a blaspheming lie&false witness unto God.Not to mention ignorant.Christianity is from the dark age of Saturnalia Christmas celebrations of the Satan God Saturn where they cannibalized their victims&ate their flesh&drank their blood in a victorious communion after brutally murdering them.Cretin Christianity is a devil underworld
princeadeshoga 8 months ago
Yah
mischellewright69 9 months ago
Very interesting.
ThePurpleVortex 9 months ago
Looks like Christians are as old as Jews two religions from way back.
mischellewright69 9 months ago
I pray God answers
mischellewright69 9 months ago
Jesus wasn't beheaded correct that and translations are just what they Yashua to Jesus Horus I guess was Jesus since he could of came earlier than we think I do know I ray God answers.
mischellewright69 9 months ago
@mischellewright69 Hi-- re. the "beheaded" comment - I also had to rewind and reread it ... it was talking about their Baptizers ... NOT Jesus or Horus. :)
SummerRain368 9 months ago
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How is there no higher name than the name of Jesus if the letter J was created around 500 years ago by the europeans. Please fact check with any search engine on the internet.
34eeelive 10 months ago
there are no sources shown here. anybody can say anything, but specific historical evidence, like exact quotes from sumerian cuniform writings.
ddarkshark 10 months ago
Emperor Constantine changed Yeshua’s name and nature to that of a Sun god, calling him Hail Zeus. Constantine destroyed and outlawed the scriptures of the original Christians that contained 800 books and created a college for them in the sun god catholic church to follow or die trying not to. The scriptures that remained were corrupted to make Yeshua look like a sun God. Constantine added Hellenistic baptism to Matthew 28:19.
ApostasyRestoration 11 months ago
You're pronouncing "attributes" incorrectly.
philnoll 1 year ago
u must research the council of nicea, the council of ephesus and the council of chalcedon...the donation of constitine to sylvester the first and the melchite egyptian priesthood....hotep
wakeen01 1 year ago
this is the dumbest video ever... lol... you have no knowledge of whats going on....
Trice05 1 year ago
Dude are you retarded? Horus is not the same as Jesus. There's no way. I'm an Ancient Egyptian(not the religion) and a Christian. Trust me you're wrong.
TasukiSama 1 year ago
Interesting!! But there were some mistakes. For example. A beattle isn't a sign for christ!! But really interesting. I've got one question: Where do you got your informations about Horus?
MultiDarkness3 1 year ago
Just for recalls: JESUS is in the Qur'an / Koran and fight the Dajjal !!!
Try to not forget this point.
Because he win against Dajjal...
videoflashful 1 year ago
All anyone has to do is to get some information regarding Horus. There maybe some differances, but there are simply to many paralles to deny that the concept of Jesus came from Horus Egyptian God. If a person cannott see or admit the paralles, then you are closed minded, brain washed, or both.
boothdos 1 year ago
These things that you wrote about Horus were written down about Horus 200 years after Jesus.
Horus was the god of spring who died every fall and was resurrected every winter at the winter solstice Dec 23.
It was only after Christianity got a strong foothold in Egypt that the legend of Horus was retold to try to combat the spread of Christianity.
Jesus did not die every fall and be reborn every year.
You are drawing conclusions from documents that are from proven to be from 200 BCE.
MennoKnight1 1 year ago
@MennoKnight1 Horus wasn't a god of spring and he wasn't resurrected
ashtile 1 year ago
@MennoKnight1 watch the arrivals ep 36
fatz786p 1 year ago
@MennoKnight1 what is your source? curious as i am a devout christian who is stuck on this? thank you in advance....
myke23111 1 year ago
@myke23111
The first one that comes to mind is Lee Stroble and "The Case for the Real Jesus". You can also find a lot of this info on Wikipedia, but that is not the greatest source.
When I am back in my office later this week I will send you more info on other sources. National Geographic surprisingly has a lot of proof of Israel and Jesus.
Hope this helps
From a young Mennonite Pastor.
MennoKnight1 1 year ago
@MennoKnight1
i already found Lee earlier when you wrote this haha! its hard to find a true credible source without doing some serious research on a topic such as egypts ancient religion and their gods. thank you pastor. godbless and be prepared!
myke23111 1 year ago
All this about Horus is a load of nonsense. Where did this guy get this rubbish?
irishxxkelt 1 year ago
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Satan must know some paterns that HAVE to be fullfilled by the Son of YHWH. the old serpent must have a deep knowledge of many stuff compared to us. he and his demons offspring have alwayz wanted [and will want] to pretend to be the Messiah and supplant Him.
That will happen again when the Antichrist comes role playing the second coming of Christ
SuperBoomboon 1 year ago
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SuperBoomboon 1 year ago
Horus / jesus is about to get slapped in the eye by the Mighty One of Israel.
souloperative 1 year ago
there was no such thing as crucifixion thousand of years before Jesus Christ.
ChurchMan111 1 year ago
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ChurchMan111 1 year ago
this video is bogus there is not reference of where to find all this information therefore everything is crap
SuperAlexrios 1 year ago
It's all the same story that was so popular back in those days, different location, time, dates, and names. The details are different but it ends up the same meaning for example the resurection with Horus was him being price back together while jesus body wasn't in his tomb but in the end both came back to life but Horus was still a blueprint for religion but with some minor tweeks
8o8riddim 1 year ago
Can I baptize you
Aceking1110 1 year ago
Jesus is a wanna be god becus Hours came before jesus and jesus stole is story such as bron from a virgin lady and was crucified at the end, bahahaa....
yasumpuss1ey 1 year ago
WWJD....lol....
Yoetah 1 year ago
@maidenofamacabre you are simply a brainwashed idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MASTER027063 2 years ago
Ok, the whole thing about religion is to bring HOPE, make you feel better over bad situations or yourself... etc.
BUT!..isn't the idea of an after life part of Egyptian Mythology way before jesus came to the picture?...starting from that fact, can somebody tell me the difference?
NO!!
Both life after death means no other than life after death...now ...the 1st to claim it, is the one credited of the idea (Egyptian Mythology). Any synonym of this, is simply copied.
Think about it.
lordtyamat 2 years ago
1.the "Pagan Copycat Theory" has been completely fabricated(as well as debunked). Not to mention that there are 300 prophecies spanning
approximately 450 to 1,500 years before His birth. The accusation of Christians plagiarizing the accounts of
other figures in the first century ignores the fact that concepts such as the virgin birth, the resurrection, and a...
h2omanz 2 years ago
The "pagan copycat theroy" wasn't fabricated and has not been debunked.
Prophecies do not prove anything; because one book mentions something will happen and in the next it comes through doesn't mean that they actually happened. Prophecy and diabolical mimicry is just a convenient deus ex machina for when you have to throw down and admit that similarities exist.
danieljliversLXXXIX 1 year ago
@danieljliversLXXXIX
Horus and Jesus have zero connection, the truth of each is outside of utube and Zeitgeist. This vid is a joke and the info is from the Zeitgeist movie that HAS been completely debunked. 2000 of 2500 of the Bible's prophesies have come true, 500 left in the final days.....
h2omanz 1 year ago
2.Father-Son, relationship precede most of the religions. Life after death concept was given to Moses, The first to write a book for the Bible, this was already evident prior to man. Again if you had done research you would know that the other gods have almost zero similarity to Jesus' story, Utube, atheist pages, and the Zeitgeist movie are not sources of truths(but rather poison). University encyclopedias/ books......
h2omanz 2 years ago
3.(found at college libraries), based on creditable scholars prove the truths on the religious gods. I will PM you why they aren't even close.
h2omanz 2 years ago
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lordtyamat 2 years ago
The only true story in the bible is that Jesus was born and died, the rest are just myth
natoramos 2 years ago
Not sure about Horus, but there is proof out there that Jesus actually existed. Every major religion acknowledged that he existed. They just don't all acknowledge that he is the son of God
samsonwyldewynde 2 years ago
@samsonwyldewynde where is the proof?????? stop with the bullshit!!!!!!!!!!
MASTER027063 2 years ago
@MASTER027063 proof? there is so much writings in egypt that tell the story of Horus in fact theres more proof than that of Jesus
but dont take my word for it look it up on google, then learn how to read hiroglyphics then learn latan and hebrew, I did
My name is Frank and i have been studing religion for over 19 years now
and there is plenty of evidence to say Hourus exsisted
but as I said research it for yourself
xq914 1 year ago
@xq914 well we are on the same page..... my comments were directed at the jesus freaks
MASTER027063 1 year ago
playing dramatic music in the backgroun is not going to make your claims any less false
92BKing 2 years ago
"Jesus was born on dec.25"
LOL! whoever made this video is a retard!
92BKing 2 years ago
you are right..you said "etc." and there are many other lies.I don't know why they did it but in Zeitgeist there are many misleading lies..after watching it I did my own research and I could find only a tiny part of what they said about the similarities between these two figures.There was an egyptologist, Massey, who started with this but his claims have been constantly dismissed by reputable and "objective" experts...bullshit created in order to confuse people further..succeeding I am afraid.
paolooo79 2 years ago
25 december is an important day for solar religions, as the cult of Sol Invictus, diffused between romans.
In fact this day is very near to winter's solstice (21 december)
Ubo89 2 years ago
@ U89
The early church decided on celebrating Jesus' Bday on the 25th, to eventually snuff out the pagan Sun God holiday.
-respect
h2omanz 2 years ago
Can you cite all your sources in the description box or with annotations?
StLennyBruce 2 years ago
YOUR MUM IS HORUS
Godistheway1000 2 years ago
bullshit
Godistheway1000 2 years ago
they had known the jesus befor 2000 year
so it is fucked up
the cross is fuck
phantomassasin0x 2 years ago
OH BY THE WAY I DO LIKE CHRIST(THE REAL CHRIST, NOT SUN OF GOD AS CHRISTIAN WORSHIPPING). AND your CHRISTIAN ARE SO UNLIKE THE CHRIST. Bugaga
thesaviorrr 2 years ago
Boohoohoo, 'christmas' is a combination of the word christ and mass. Christmas is a roman catholic word, it mean 'christ dead' celebrating christmas is a tradition of the catholic church! Bugagaga
thesaviorrr 2 years ago
boohoohoo some mufuckas are gonna cry because its christmassss!! its fuckin horustmas! jesus christ did exist,he is the messiah but theres som much stuffs that have been modified
rise313 2 years ago
completely wrong......where do you get your info from?
-he was was the falcon god,which become one of his many titles as well as sun god
-anointed one is a judaeo-christian concept(not ancient Egypt)
-Jesus wasnt born dec 25th catholic settled that day to celebrate on
-Mothers name was isis not isis-meri and was impregnated by Osiris
-no stars mentioned in Horus birth(star in the east)
-no 3 kings in Horus or Bible either(rd Mat.2)
h2omanz 2 years ago
To be more precise Isis used her "magic powers" to "resurrect" her murdered husband Osiris after throwing his penis into the Nile and keeping the rest of his body..Then she was impregnated by him..doesn't sound like an "enlightened" version of Horus' birth and definitely not the same as Jesus does it?..Penis into the Nile?Magic powers?Guys..open your eyes and don't take for absolute truth everything you are told..create your own ideas after checking things in person instead of a link on the net!
paolooo79 2 years ago
@p79
Props....
Its amazing how the Zeitgeist movie swayed people into believing something, just by taking their word for it, and never actually doing ones own personal research for the truths. It just shows how gullible and easily brainwashed people can be and are.
-respect
h2omanz 2 years ago
@p79:
I personaly did years of research about many gods from ancient cultures WAY before the jesus time and really match with the Zeitgeist movie info. Thats why I bought it...in order to explain in 45mins all those FACTS to people that ask me the why of stoped believing in that tale created in 325ac by Cesar Flavius Valerius Aurelius Constantinus Augustus & the Council of Nicea. The fear & bloodshed make all those gods be forgotten..obviously. You take the word for it too.... with the bible!
lordtyamat 2 years ago
Sorry, that you have bought into the lies of the movie, that so many others have too. I will PM you the correct info,links etc..Ones from university libraries, and scholars that have actually researched the lol info the german producers made in the Zeitgeist movie. If I were you I would get your money back you have been scammed.
h2omanz 2 years ago
h2omanz:
*Lets keep the movie away for this time*
The most important thing FOR ME here is the fact that jesus story shares a lot similarities with other gods created hundreds of years before him...and even more, writings teachings of astrologers.
My conclusion is that Constantinus and Nicea council put it all together, taking from here and there to make one tale that have it all, fantastic enough to make people "wow it".
Works for that time indeed...THAT TIME. I'll say no more.
lordtyamat 2 years ago
ahhh come on horus=satan and you say horus =Jesus you are twisting things around dude this is already debunked about zeitgeist so this vid is really crap......
timschutte 2 years ago
i did not said that the history who really did
jesus=hours
bernoussi4ever 2 years ago
@bernoussi4ever Jesus Christ had educated us that Jesus = Jesus and Horus = Horus and he had also educated us that Horus was never Satan too. However, Satan had terribly influenced Horus as Satan had done the similar evil thing to Pharoah too at when both Horus and Pharaoh had wanted to be idolized and/or worshipped. Gladly, Jesus Christ had also taught us the same #1 commandment as Moses from God had also passed on to us: Worship God.
dannyclark1973 9 months ago
These facts don't mean they are the same person, according to Carl Jung they share the same archetype (platonic idea), something that is also shared with Buddha, Krisna and other saviour heroes....
But many pagans use the likeness to devalue Christianity as though Christians stole it. Jesus will always be the favorite sun-hero in our western times so we can't devalue his message just because he shares a platonic idea with a long-gone myth.
Phavonic 2 years ago
بارك الله فيك أخي العزيز شكرا على المرور الكريم
bernoussi4ever 2 years ago
دين حورس صراحة
iraqisniper3 2 years ago 4
منور يا عم والله صدقت دين حورس إبن الشمس والله قد كرمهم وشرفهم الإسلام بإسم أهل الذمة فقط لوجود بعض من الكلمات الربانية التي فلتت من التحريف فهم في الحقيقة وثنيين نجسيين
bernoussi4ever 2 years ago