It's never we the little people that destroy shit, it's the big organizations who come in and buy everything up and take it all over, with everything!!!
The people didn't kill the music it was big organizations. If Bill can't recognise this then he is more than a fool...
Wtf do any of you care anyway. You don't have a podcast or a g/f. I'll bet money that redban would blow 95% of you out of the water in many different areas of his expertise. Just because he isn't the best communicator doesn't mean he isn't funny or doesn't serve a purpose.
@juniorjohnpip What do you mean he doesn't know what he's talking about? Regardless how someone wants to say it they are breaking the law. The realistic argument would have been how or can you enforce the laws and what should the punishment be.
Stealing music did may have killed the industry but it didn't kill the artist. I think with the success we've seen from bands like Radio Head and even comedians like Louis CK, the industry has been cheating the artist for years. I don't support illegal downloads, but I certainly support artists and I did pay for Louis's latest. I'd rather deal directly with the artist and know where my money is going then pad 5-10 middle men pockets and pay inflated prices, especially if the album is garbage.
The fact that stitcher offered bill money after the fact completely ends all debate... They knew they were doing something wrong.... Anybody who thinks redban is entertaining is dumber than he is...
I don't miss the music industry, industry is what was ruining music. That said it is now less appealing for an artist to pursue their dream, I don't know. I still download tracks, but if I like a band I get the albums, the dvds, go to the show, get the t-shirt etc.
@10101jesse Dude Bill Burrr is the best comic in the country and you are calling him stupid oh sure call me anything you want but jesse Bill gets the big bucks for talking now who is FUCKING STUPID?
Bill, I cant comment on tne comedy biz but the music biz is dying because they made money on distribution. They saw the model changing yet they insisted in continuing to want people to buy plastic discs. Its been shown ppl will PAY for music but they dont want to be forced to buy album that contains filler and 3 decent songs, hence Itunes success. The music industry is dying because they refuse to adapt to how ppl want to listen to music. artists are now uploading their own stuff no middlemen
I kinda agree with him on the podcast issue but as far as music goes fuck it. Whenever people think about stealing music they think about American artist who already make a shitload of money. They dont think about artist/fans from other countries who need "illegal" downloading to put out or get music because free speech laws are different there. They dont think about the wide network of hip hop, metal, punk, alternative, and indie music that exist completely independent of the mainstream music
That exist also without the support of huge record companies or radio airplay. Unlike snotty artist who make shitloads they encourage fans to get their shit of the internet. Also to me record companies are the one who steal artists masters and make most of the real money anyways. And just cause somethings legal/illegal doesnt make it right or wrong. The law is not the moral code and it can be bended for sinister purposes people seem to forget that when they bring up what is and isnt legal.
Why does nobody understand that generally musicians get paid UP FRONT. That is where the term 'signed to a label' came from. It's that monetization is dealt with before the music is even recorded. That's how the industry screwed nobodies they knew would be huge by lowballing them on the upfront price. Then an artist would almost be forced to rely on the 10% that is their share of royalty. The 90% goes to pay distribution and marketing and profits for the LABEL. Sony BMI TimeWarner are doing fine
I don't know bill, no one listens those artist really, i'm 28, those artist were only "OK" maroon5 had what.... that one "I Wanna Make You Feel Beautiful" song, its OK. But whatever, even Tyler or whatever that goofy lipped dudes name is, he had like in my opinion like two good albums. I think that music is evolving beyond the individual and is starting to focus more on the music. I feel like it cycles like this every decade.
ugh redban's a pain, but i have no regret about downloading music im suppose to feel bad that there not making more millions? nothing more than overpaid morons, the music industry is not dead its corrupt and thriving
not real stealing, its kinda wrong but is not like if i was to watch he's DVD on megaupload he would loss money because if i cant get it for free im not going to go on amazon and buy it, no I'll just watch something. Shouldnt be sued for putting posters up with he's face and one of his jokes with buy coke at the bottom, thats free add for him.
I can't understand how Rogan can even hang around Redban. Joe is amazingly smart and deep and also funny, while Redban is awkward, socially dumb and he is NOT remotely funny. I understand Rogan needs a tech guy, but damn, Redban just should not be allowed to talk or touch buttons after that podcast starts. Blows my mind how dumb of the things Redban says and does. Then again, I think he feels extremely inferior listening to guys like Trussell and Rogan etc talk.
the internet allows you to sell your intellectual property cheaper and easier. look at Louis c.k. he did it and did well and he still owns his i.p. not some corporation that will never release it to public domain.
Redban is nothing but a fucking man child who should shut the fuck up on Rogan's podcast. Why he is given a microphone is beyond me. Every time Joe and guests are really deep into a conversation and splitting minds open, Redban has to throw some completely unrelated topic in to fuck it all up. He was dead wrong on the argument with Bill.
It amazes me how many assholes don't understand why you get your asshole sued off for trying to sell entertainment that's given to the public. Watch SOPA pass because of you fucks.
Bill is right, and fucking halarious as always. However, he also has to understand that the majority of the people who love his comedy do so soley because of that fact that the internet gave them a free <-- thats free, avenue into his comedy. So technically he is losing business, however if he just got off his ass and performed in these places he would fucking fill seats that he otherwise without the internet would have never have fucking gotten. Thats the internet baby
Times are not the same. Metallica went and tried to stop fans from doing what ever they wanted with their material. Huge backlash! Everyone making money from stuff that is not something tangible are trying to stop the wave of the new. And they are doing as good of a job as you and your lawschool friend would get done. Internet and the World is not America. Good luck getting someone to pay for hosting your FREE OF CHARGE podcast in a server in Sweden where the laws are a bit different. Look it up
@roastbeefdinner he is the host of fear factor, a small time comedian, an anouncer of the UFC. he has some good knowledge on everyday things, and politicts
@TritoneMcgee Burr was pulling his punches, Brian Redban is consistently unfunny and uninteresting. Bill is the fun-loving guy, he could even have fun with a boring performing monkey like Redban by pawning him off on his buddies. How many times has Redban unwittingly been 'that guy' at a party? Probably talking to adults about his new ring tone or something...
@zepherighost This is purely just an argument that arose naturally - though you are right. The entertainment is in how he deconstructs daily Western life. It's not only him that does it either.
Redban is a socially retarded manchild fuckwit. I NEVER fucking cease to be amazed at how incomprehensibly dense this guy is. If someone would only switch him and Duncan. Put Redban and Leggero together and isolate the unfunny.
Stitchr doesn't redirect to the artists' RSS feeds. That's specifically why Chris Hardwick had his podcast removed from it. Fucker couldn't even get his facts straight let alone make a cogent argument for any of his attempted points or counterpoints.
@uhwaykin yeah I can't read, somehow logic doesn't apply to that assessment. Don't think you even know what illiterate means, stay in school. If you're angry at least be remotely funny/entertaining.
@uhwaykin I know you dimwit, point out to where I came up short in either category? LOL please don't tell me you got this from "ur", mm you new you the internet angry caveman? By your logic 80% of the world's population is illiterate. Oh do you want me to correct it?
"Yeah, I can't read. Somehow, logic doesn't apply to that assessment. I don't think you even know what illiterate means. Stay in school. If you're angry, at least be remotely funny/entertaining."
Your command of grammar and punctuation are scarcely better than that of a fourth grader. Considering what I've seen of your intellectual capacity, however, I'm quite impressed.
"U mad bro?" Hahaha. No. Now I'm just bored. Why don't you go ask 4chan for a better response?
@uhwaykin face it, if Brian was not in the position he is in you would not be talking about him. You are so angry with your life you have to bash someone with a better life than yourself. Don't worry you won't be a virgin forever. Some girls will take money to help you out.
@mustangsammy95 No shit, Sherlock. If Redban wasn't in the position he is in (i.e. on the show) I wouldn't be complaining about him being on the show. Your reasoning skills seem about as strong as his. No wonder you're nuthugging so hard.
@heatbucspies55 I know, it's ridiculous. He actually said that he doesn't mind giving stuff for free. What annoys him is when sites take that stuff that he gave for free and make money from it.
There is a value added with the convenience of having all of these podcasts in one place, but you're right that the profits from advertising should be shared with the artists.
Redban is a fucking retard who smokes too much weed... and I'm no weed hater BUT for some people it's not good. Rogan even talks about these people in one of his comedy albums yet does a podcast with one of these 35 year old boys who's still waiting to hit puberty.
I can't believe there are people actually defending and supporting the idiot, talentless man-child known as Redban. The guy would be homeless if it wasn't for Rogan's charity. Burr is the best comic and his argument is pretty simple. You can't make money off the creative product of someone else without cutting them in. Why is that so hard for people to get? The internet doesn't make breaking the law ok.
i think that artist should make money of performing live.. they should give there recorded stuff away for free to advertise their shows,, i like bill and brian so i hope both of them keep it up! #deathsquadfamily but i love ya too bill!
What's the point of this video? It was discussed on the podcast. You're just being an asshole here and putting Brian down calling him a "man assistant" or whatever, and he may play that role, but Jesus, you're totally the opposite of the type of character Rogan preaches about.
I like it how in the Joe Rogan podcast Bill Burr was saying he hates losing arguments and he was arguing with redban the whole time and said to red baan that he is one of those people that dont like arguing
Nobody makes money from a RSS feed except for the website the feed originates from(billburr.com). RSS requires a app to become a 'feed'. Stitcher app includes ads. Bill has a right as a content creator to ask them to remove his show or pay him some of the ad money. If the Stitcher app itself costs money but no ads were in the app, Bill wouldn't have a reason to ask for content removal because Stitcher made their money from the sell of a app THEY made but not the content others created.
Those artists are on American Idol because they're washed up not because of internet piracy.
I agree about the website because people shouldn't be able to take your stuff and make money. But us downloading records just to listen to and not to sell is different.
@bweazel:The fact that you keep using Google in all of your arguments shows you don't have a leg to stand on. Bottom line:they put his podcast on there without his consent. That's it. Money or no money, they put his podcast on there without his consent. And yes, he does deserve a cut if people are going on there, listening to the podcast,and then making a profit off of the ads that result from the listening. Like it or not, how artists distribute their work is their business. But forget it.
@JackBNimbleify Explain how, Jack. They are the same business model, one of them is accused of stealing, the other is credited for being a boost for publicity. You don't want to admit this, because then it shows how hypocritical your stance is. Yes, I realize it's law, but so is buckling up, and I never do that either. ;)
Bottom line, they did something for Burr and all the other artists that they wouldn't do on their own, and he's bitching like a woman. Shuddup, Burr.
@bweazel:You can't make a profit off people's work(free or otherwise) without their consent. Period. Bill has said if they had approached him about it rather than just putting the podcasts up there,it wouldn't be an issue. Advertising isn't the issue here. Yes,it's good that Bill gets exposed to a wider audience,but the fact that someone is profiting off of your work without offering you a cut or informing you first is just basic ethics. This is why I said advertising doesn't mean shit in this
@JackBNimbleify *sigh* No one is making money off Burr's "work". They're making money off of their own work. Burr didn't build the database, Burr doesn't maintain the webpage, Burr isn't responsible for any of the other podcasts. Advertising is how they pay to keep the site up, an expense that Burr benefits from, but gives them zero dollars for. So, he gives them no money for free referrals, but he still deserves a cut of their profit? Explain yourself.
Also, to all the people that it's Bill's fault for not hiding his RSS feed, here's my argument:if I leave the keys in the ignition of my car, does that give someone the right to steal it? No, it doesn't. It may be a bad move on my part, but no one has the right to take it.
@bweazel:Publicity doesn't mean shit when other people are profiting off the work you do for free. And you're also a selfish cunt. Someone needs to come to YOUR town to get your money, like you're so important that someone needs to be your jester, otherwise they don't deserve it? I want to slap you in your priviliged Connecticut white face.
@JackBNimbleify Yes, it does mean shit. They deserve to profit. I wonder, does your logic also apply to google? Should google be put out of business? It doesn't make any of that content, it compiles other peoples intellectual property, and flashes ads all over the place. Don't see anyone bitching and moaning that they deserve a piece of googles profit. And why don't they complain? Because they realize google gives them way more publicity and makes them more money than not being on google would.
@JackBNimbleify This, like many other IP arguments, is simply picking on those who cannot defend themselves. They provide these people a service, put ads up (a transaction completely away from any IP holders) to pay for their site, they make a bit of profit, and people jump on them. Does anyone jump on googles billions? Nope. Same thing though. Ask yourself why you're so quick to pick on the little guy, but leave the big guys doing the exact same thing alone. Why?
@JackBNimbleify Yes, he needs to come here to get my money. Me simply listening to something he said does not mean I owe him money. And you call me privileged? Hahah, get real. I'm not the one saying things I say are so funny that people owe me money once they hear a joke of mine. THAT'S privileged. Now, if he were to spend the money to come down here, put on a live show, I'd be more than happy to buy a ticket, because his time is not in infinite supply. 1's and 0's are. Sorry, bro.
@JackBNimbleify And yes, publicity means lots, even if people are profiting off of your work (in reality, they're profiting off of their own work, Burr didn't design the podcast search engine, Burr doesn't upkeep the server, Burr doesn't pay for the bandwidth, they do). So there you go. Burr gets free advertising, at someone else's expense, and he's still not happy. You and all the schmucks that support your line of thought need to slap yourselves in the face, and stop loving yourselves so much.
THE ACTUAL SITUATION WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW........ITS STEALING PLAIN & SIMPLE...but in general everyone knows it is but we get away with it because thats simply how it is now...........but you have to choose the artists you go with & support. going to buy a dvd now
No, Burr. You do not get the internet. You clearly didn't understand his argument at all. No one is "stealing" anything from you. Just cracks me up, these modern "artists". You have to pay to hear me speak, fuck you, you're funny, but you're not that funny. The only time you'll get a cent of my money is if you come to my fucking town and do a live show. Other than that, bite me. No tangible property was stolen. And you're getting publicity, so shut up.
@bweazel No, bweazel, you do not get it. They use his podcasts to attract people to their site where they make money off of advertising. Listen before you speak. Okay? Otherwise, shut the fuck up, cause he ain't asking for your money. He doesn't like other people making money off of his labour. Has nothing to do with publicity. That's a punk excuse anyway. Like rappers sampling, making money off of the song, then hiding behind "its publicity for you".
@schadenfreudelolz22 And this is any different to how google operates, how exactly? I would hardly call giving your opinions on a podcast, labor. Has everything to do with publicity. It's not a punk excuse. Burr gets free referrals, and pays nothing to this website. He does not know how much traffic they pull in, he does not know how large of percentage of hits he makes up of the page.
Are you seriously trying to play like this podcast search engine shouldn't exist? Then why should google?
I don't think you get Bill's point and here's the missing link - as a 'consumer' of Bill's podcast I am paying my attention to receive his podcast. My attention is currency on the internet, its web traffic. If his podcast causes me to traverse a website and someone totally unrelated to his podcast gets money for my traffic on their website, then Bill is entitled to at least a percentage of that money if not all.
What supports your argument is that the artists don't pursue this.
@MadBagOfHorses No, I understand his point. I made it, I deserve money. However, I do not agree with him, because, like you say, the currency on the net is a whole different currency than what you use to buy things. He is being paid, he's being paid, like you say, in attention, not in dollars. And for some reason, he doesn't like this. I don't think he's entitled to any money. He did not bring attention to himself, the search engine did.
@MadBagOfHorses Not at all. You, like Burr, put too much credit on the podcast itself, and not enough on the search engine. This isn't a topic about piracy. No one is committing piracy here, because these podcasts are free. What Burr doesn't seem to understand or care about, is the work that goes into making the database, maintaining the website, upgrading it, etc. which is all done for a benefit to him, which he pays zero cost for. He sounds like a pompous little bitch complaining about this.
I agree that there is benefit to the artist in free advertising from the pirater (the site who maintains his content with no consent from the artist). Also that there are other possible benefits, but don't assume that there is no negative impact.
Bill isn't pursuing a lawsuit against the offender because he's not a pompous bitch. Its free and he doesn't care. His point is to those making money on this practice- that the law protects the artist, even if the law isn't often exercised.
@MadBagOfHorses Google does not get any consent from anyone, yet no one complains about them. If you're not calling google pirates, you cannot call these other people pirates, especially when the content is free in the first place.
I know he's not pursuing a lawsuit, but the mere fact that he is sitting here complaining about it shows his character. He is taking this free advertising he's getting for granted. The law isn't exercised because it exposes the hypocrisy of many people.
@MadBagOfHorses A multi billion dollar corporation gets a thank you. A group of 20 somethings doing the exact same thing in their garage get a court summons. IP law, today, is used as a barrier-to-entry in what is probably the first and only free market on the planet, the internet. It bothers me to no end to hear Burr complain about this. Makes him look like an pretentious ass.
Answer my question though, would you apply your same logic to google? Or do they have too much money?
@MadBagOfHorses My biggest complaint is that these artists do benefit from other peoples work and pay nothing for it, but then still behave as though they've been wronged. And when you really consider how the sites make their money, random advertisements that have nothing to do with the artist, instead have to do more with what the person searches for on the net, it has even less to do with the artist, and more to do with other, unrelated interests.
@MadBagOfHorses Bill Burr, alone with his podcasts, would have never connected the consumer with a new product, like the webpage did. Say the person clicks on a best buy ad while listening to Bill Burr. Does Bill Burr deserve a part of that referral? Or does the webpage, again, deserve some credit for the work they did. Also, building a user base has more to do with the webpage, it's ease of use, and design, than it has to do with the artists on there. Give credit where credit is due.
The concept you describe is used daily by websites who have a contractual agreement with their content provider. That example falls completely outside of this argument as this is about unsolicited use of content.
Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong. All the concept you describe is par for the course but it has to be legal. Redban was literally arguing the legality of these concepts with Bill Burr and the truth is that its not legal! Bill Burr could sue and get reparations. Period!
@MadBagOfHorses I asked you about google. Not other sites that have licensing agreements. It does not fall out of the context of this argument at all. That is the argument. This podcast search engine is almost exactly the same business model as google. Do you consider google to be depriving artists of revenue? Google does not obtain consent at all
Something is not legal if it is immoral. Our law should not be used to favor one group ahead of others, and that is exactly how IP law is used today.
@MadBagOfHorses Oh, for sure. Just having a convo, man. Not trying to bitch at you. Ya, Redban's argument is a piece of crap. He should have approached Burr with my argument. The way Redban argued this makes Burr sound like he is justified. I seriously doubt Burr would come out ahead though, and the podcast search engine could have a case.
Sad, that these IP pushers always pick on those least able to defend themselves. Anyone who picks on the weak, is a coward himself, that includes Burr. ;)
Burr, I had no idea you were such a punk. If you do it for free, shut the fuck up about it and just be happy people are enjoying your work. They deserve some money for doing something with your work that you did not. They made a search engine and a webpage for podcasts. Shit... you should be thanking them for putting you on there and giving you more publicity, but what are you doing? Bitching like a crybaby that you're not getting a cut.
My argument wasnt if it was ok for people to put Bills podcast on a website, my argument is dont have a public RSS feed if you dont want people to do that. Bill needs to hide his rss feed if he doesnt want people to do that.
I use to listen to Joe Rogan's podcast on a regular basis, but now only when I see a good guest. Biggest complaint: Redban is beyond annoying. He is obviously smart when it comes to comp technology, but he is not funny or insightful, (Unlike Bill & Joe) and should not be an on-air personality.
@wakinglifepictures Even though redban is annoying he was still right about the RSS feed. Lmao it does not change anything you cant be mad at redban for bill bur being a moron and allowing people to steal his shit.
@lilsm555 If Redban was right, why would the company decide to offer Bill Money, and when he refused and told them they couldn't use his show, they stopped? If Redban is right, they would have told him to fuck off.
@lilsm555 you are just as stupid and annoying as redban. I have the ability to rip off all kinds of copyrighted material, this does not make the people who make this work stupid for producing things in formats that allow it to be stolen.
@lilsm555 redban (like yourself) was unable to grasp that Bill understands that in the digital age, all media can be stolen. He felt that the website should have approached him to use his podcast, so he refused to do business with them. Redban and brain dead tech nerds like yourself could not get past the fact that the RSS feed allows ppl to steal it, so its Bill's fault for not knowing (Which is not the argument that Bill was having)
@lilsm555 Redban555, your brain is unable to undrestand the argument. If Bill owned a radio station and broadcast his MMP over the air, anybody could record it and use it for whatever purpose (Bill understands this). Your little pea-redbrain thinks that you're having an argument about technology (Becuase you are a tech nerd) and not about intellectual property rights (Because you are not funny or creative, just like Redban)
@wakinglifepictures lmao stomp riding bill burs dick. You are trying to find logic in your shit position but its ok i get it if you dont understand it.
@lilsm555 Nerdban555, you are not only on Redban's dick, you are exactly like him. Just like him, you refuse to admit when you are wrong, and refuse to address any of the points being made. You just keep repeating the same strawman argument that has nothing to do with what is being debated. Nerds are like everyoe else, they're ignorant of most things, but unlike everyone else, they think they're not. What is my shit position? (Besides bending your mother's ass over doggy style)
@lilsm555 Redban/Nerdban555's thought process:"He doesn't even know what an RSS feed is, and I do. Therefore any debate that involves an RSS feed means I am the winner. I will just keep repeating that they don't understand what an RSS feed is and refuse to address any of thier arguments". What EXACTLY is my position on this? What exactly am I wrong about?
@wakinglifepictures Winner? lmao at this point if you dont get it its not worth explaining again. Its a common sense thing. We are not talking about whether it was stealing or not because i agree they still stole but i dont think you understood it the first time i said it.
@lilsm555 I heard the original rogan podcast, redban was semi-shocked that bills podcast wasnt on stitcher and wanted to know why. bill explained that they were stealing his shit, so he told them to stop and they offered him money. He refused it based on principle, & they still had to stop. Then for some reason, your buttboy decided to start arguing and take stitcher's side in the matter. Just like you, he couldn't exlain why Stitcher was right, just kept repeating "U guys dont get it."
@wakinglifepictures We are not talking about sticher or the stealing part. This is the part you are not grasping. Bill burr basically put a sign over all his shit TAKE MY STUFF FOR FREE and then he is butt hurt and confused when people steal his crap, what a moron. Period.
@lilsm555 I dont think u listened to the original podcast. Unlike you, Redban would not give an inch on his position. Bill was like a lawyer asking pointed questions about the illegality of it and that goofball kept repeating "U don't understand RSS Feed" like a retarded robot. Guess what Nerdban555, you have at least admitted it was illegal stealing(Unlike your boyfriend), so I pardon you. Am I not merciful?
It's never we the little people that destroy shit, it's the big organizations who come in and buy everything up and take it all over, with everything!!!
The people didn't kill the music it was big organizations. If Bill can't recognise this then he is more than a fool...
TheTruthSpeaksEnough 1 day ago
Take a chill-pill Bill!
Danoli95 1 day ago
Wtf do any of you care anyway. You don't have a podcast or a g/f. I'll bet money that redban would blow 95% of you out of the water in many different areas of his expertise. Just because he isn't the best communicator doesn't mean he isn't funny or doesn't serve a purpose.
Irishlager5 1 day ago
Bill, don't waste your time with Joe Rogan. you're on such a higher level than him
JesusFrankenstein 3 days ago
@JesusFrankenstein idiot, they are friends and what are you trying to say, Rogan isn't successful ?
chronicrossi89 3 days ago
@JesusFrankenstein The argument has nothing to do with Joe Rogan himself.
tmpennstate 1 day ago
Bill burr doesn't know what he's talking about
juniorjohnpip 1 week ago
@juniorjohnpip What do you mean he doesn't know what he's talking about? Regardless how someone wants to say it they are breaking the law. The realistic argument would have been how or can you enforce the laws and what should the punishment be.
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Love your stuff though, I hope to catch you on tour one of these days. You're one of the best in the biz.
joshualogan84 1 week ago
Love your stuff though, I hope to catch you on tour one of these days. You're one of the best in the biz.
joshualogan84 1 week ago
Stealing music did may have killed the industry but it didn't kill the artist. I think with the success we've seen from bands like Radio Head and even comedians like Louis CK, the industry has been cheating the artist for years. I don't support illegal downloads, but I certainly support artists and I did pay for Louis's latest. I'd rather deal directly with the artist and know where my money is going then pad 5-10 middle men pockets and pay inflated prices, especially if the album is garbage.
joshualogan84 1 week ago
The fact that stitcher offered bill money after the fact completely ends all debate... They knew they were doing something wrong.... Anybody who thinks redban is entertaining is dumber than he is...
bonerdust 1 week ago
I don't miss the music industry, industry is what was ruining music. That said it is now less appealing for an artist to pursue their dream, I don't know. I still download tracks, but if I like a band I get the albums, the dvds, go to the show, get the t-shirt etc.
mehico33 1 week ago
@10101jesse You're fucking retarded, way to complain about nothing. 66 Agree with you, 210 don't, so you're wrong. Congratulations.
mehico33 1 week ago
Google makes money every second without cutting them in with their search engine.
MyVoiceinYourHead 1 week ago
@10101jesse Thanks for watching my vids jesse. It seems you have good taste, and very much the gentleman. Good luck.
Dochomp 2 weeks ago
@10101jesse Dude Bill Burrr is the best comic in the country and you are calling him stupid oh sure call me anything you want but jesse Bill gets the big bucks for talking now who is FUCKING STUPID?
Dochomp 2 weeks ago
Bill, I cant comment on tne comedy biz but the music biz is dying because they made money on distribution. They saw the model changing yet they insisted in continuing to want people to buy plastic discs. Its been shown ppl will PAY for music but they dont want to be forced to buy album that contains filler and 3 decent songs, hence Itunes success. The music industry is dying because they refuse to adapt to how ppl want to listen to music. artists are now uploading their own stuff no middlemen
Wickedashtray 2 weeks ago
I kinda agree with him on the podcast issue but as far as music goes fuck it. Whenever people think about stealing music they think about American artist who already make a shitload of money. They dont think about artist/fans from other countries who need "illegal" downloading to put out or get music because free speech laws are different there. They dont think about the wide network of hip hop, metal, punk, alternative, and indie music that exist completely independent of the mainstream music
metalahhhhhhhhhhhh 2 weeks ago
That exist also without the support of huge record companies or radio airplay. Unlike snotty artist who make shitloads they encourage fans to get their shit of the internet. Also to me record companies are the one who steal artists masters and make most of the real money anyways. And just cause somethings legal/illegal doesnt make it right or wrong. The law is not the moral code and it can be bended for sinister purposes people seem to forget that when they bring up what is and isnt legal.
metalahhhhhhhhhhhh 2 weeks ago
Bill the laws of the world have nothing to do with the internet, we make our own fucking rules here.
iurhviusdfavhi 2 weeks ago
Why does nobody understand that generally musicians get paid UP FRONT. That is where the term 'signed to a label' came from. It's that monetization is dealt with before the music is even recorded. That's how the industry screwed nobodies they knew would be huge by lowballing them on the upfront price. Then an artist would almost be forced to rely on the 10% that is their share of royalty. The 90% goes to pay distribution and marketing and profits for the LABEL. Sony BMI TimeWarner are doing fine
Nyquirk 3 weeks ago
I can't listen to this whining.
LongBeachJ 3 weeks ago
what a terrible analogy.
CassAnayadotcom 3 weeks ago
information isnt like a car, it gets duplicated, so the owner hasnt lost it.
it's more loike: listening and repeating
ecoute et vous REPETE
natmanprime 3 weeks ago
I don't know bill, no one listens those artist really, i'm 28, those artist were only "OK" maroon5 had what.... that one "I Wanna Make You Feel Beautiful" song, its OK. But whatever, even Tyler or whatever that goofy lipped dudes name is, he had like in my opinion like two good albums. I think that music is evolving beyond the individual and is starting to focus more on the music. I feel like it cycles like this every decade.
mje155 3 weeks ago
y u mad bro? lol!!
EJfromNYC 3 weeks ago
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ugh redban's a pain, but i have no regret about downloading music im suppose to feel bad that there not making more millions? nothing more than overpaid morons, the music industry is not dead its corrupt and thriving
JapanJoe1 3 weeks ago
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JapanJoe1 3 weeks ago
Just listened to the whole pod cast and, yeah, that... was... fucking retarded. XD
Herc0gs 3 weeks ago
not real stealing, its kinda wrong but is not like if i was to watch he's DVD on megaupload he would loss money because if i cant get it for free im not going to go on amazon and buy it, no I'll just watch something. Shouldnt be sued for putting posters up with he's face and one of his jokes with buy coke at the bottom, thats free add for him.
sirbestnameever 4 weeks ago
I can't understand how Rogan can even hang around Redban. Joe is amazingly smart and deep and also funny, while Redban is awkward, socially dumb and he is NOT remotely funny. I understand Rogan needs a tech guy, but damn, Redban just should not be allowed to talk or touch buttons after that podcast starts. Blows my mind how dumb of the things Redban says and does. Then again, I think he feels extremely inferior listening to guys like Trussell and Rogan etc talk.
umswagger 4 weeks ago
the internet allows you to sell your intellectual property cheaper and easier. look at Louis c.k. he did it and did well and he still owns his i.p. not some corporation that will never release it to public domain.
slinks360 1 month ago
his "girlfriend" voice always cracks me up . you are the man mr. burr
meatp0p 1 month ago
The music industry is over because people sold out? Thats stupid... This shit on the radio sucks anyways. Its all commercial cookie cutter garbage.
TimeKillingVirals 1 month ago
Redban is nothing but a fucking man child who should shut the fuck up on Rogan's podcast. Why he is given a microphone is beyond me. Every time Joe and guests are really deep into a conversation and splitting minds open, Redban has to throw some completely unrelated topic in to fuck it all up. He was dead wrong on the argument with Bill.
insinuwait 1 month ago 2
Go support SOPA you fucking mugs
DMTwannaB 1 month ago
It amazes me how many assholes don't understand why you get your asshole sued off for trying to sell entertainment that's given to the public. Watch SOPA pass because of you fucks.
grandaddynative 1 month ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....."where are we gonna put the cereal?!?!?!?!"
akwid101 1 month ago
i don't know why Redban gets the amount of hate that he does, he isn't THAT bad.
nomyek200 1 month ago
Bill is right, and fucking halarious as always. However, he also has to understand that the majority of the people who love his comedy do so soley because of that fact that the internet gave them a free <-- thats free, avenue into his comedy. So technically he is losing business, however if he just got off his ass and performed in these places he would fucking fill seats that he otherwise without the internet would have never have fucking gotten. Thats the internet baby
TudatThought7Imagine 1 month ago
Times are not the same. Metallica went and tried to stop fans from doing what ever they wanted with their material. Huge backlash! Everyone making money from stuff that is not something tangible are trying to stop the wave of the new. And they are doing as good of a job as you and your lawschool friend would get done. Internet and the World is not America. Good luck getting someone to pay for hosting your FREE OF CHARGE podcast in a server in Sweden where the laws are a bit different. Look it up
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Herc0gs 1 month ago
Redban all day!!!!!!!!!
Mathcloud22 1 month ago
who is joe rogaine?
roastbeefdinner 1 month ago
@roastbeefdinner he is the host of fear factor, a small time comedian, an anouncer of the UFC. he has some good knowledge on everyday things, and politicts
weq7 1 month ago
Burr is such an asshole. Later talking shit about Redban on his own podcast? It's like beating up a fun-loving retarded kid.
TritoneMcgee 1 month ago
@TritoneMcgee Burr was pulling his punches, Brian Redban is consistently unfunny and uninteresting. Bill is the fun-loving guy, he could even have fun with a boring performing monkey like Redban by pawning him off on his buddies. How many times has Redban unwittingly been 'that guy' at a party? Probably talking to adults about his new ring tone or something...
pathocrat 1 month ago
Has anyone else noticed how Bill Burr focuses on life's little inconveniences instead of that major issues in the world? Interesting.
zepherighost 2 months ago
@zepherighost This is purely just an argument that arose naturally - though you are right. The entertainment is in how he deconstructs daily Western life. It's not only him that does it either.
timbo177 2 months ago
@zepherighost i don't like the implication, you unfunny cunt
Perdomom 1 month ago
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Why doesn't Bill just send the website a notice to cease and desist?
That would have taken far less time than 45 minutes.
SovereignStatesman 2 months ago
This guy is an idiot.
sKepptiksowat 2 months ago
@sKepptiksowat why?
pafrick0352 2 months ago
Redban is Joe Rogans Turtle. lol
Brzbrngr 2 months ago
Redban is a socially retarded manchild fuckwit. I NEVER fucking cease to be amazed at how incomprehensibly dense this guy is. If someone would only switch him and Duncan. Put Redban and Leggero together and isolate the unfunny.
Stitchr doesn't redirect to the artists' RSS feeds. That's specifically why Chris Hardwick had his podcast removed from it. Fucker couldn't even get his facts straight let alone make a cogent argument for any of his attempted points or counterpoints.
uhwaykin 2 months ago 39
@uhwaykin ur an angry guy.
laistar 2 months ago
@laistar And you're an illiterate. I'd rather be angry than have a sub-room-temperature IQ.
uhwaykin 2 months ago
@uhwaykin yeah I can't read, somehow logic doesn't apply to that assessment. Don't think you even know what illiterate means, stay in school. If you're angry at least be remotely funny/entertaining.
U angry bro?
laistar 2 months ago
@laistar Literacy pertains to one's ability to read or WRITE you fucking mongoloid. Turns out it's you who doesn't know what illiterate means.
COLOR ME SHOCKED.
uhwaykin 2 months ago
@uhwaykin I know you dimwit, point out to where I came up short in either category? LOL please don't tell me you got this from "ur", mm you new you the internet angry caveman? By your logic 80% of the world's population is illiterate. Oh do you want me to correct it?
You're an angry guy.
U mad bro?
laistar 2 months ago
@laistar Certainly.
"Yeah, I can't read. Somehow, logic doesn't apply to that assessment. I don't think you even know what illiterate means. Stay in school. If you're angry, at least be remotely funny/entertaining."
Your command of grammar and punctuation are scarcely better than that of a fourth grader. Considering what I've seen of your intellectual capacity, however, I'm quite impressed.
"U mad bro?" Hahaha. No. Now I'm just bored. Why don't you go ask 4chan for a better response?
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themexicanway 1 month ago
@uhwaykin this comment could not be MORE true.
daOriGinooGrapeBeer 1 month ago
@uhwaykin You are jealous of his position. Plain and simple
mustangsammy95 1 month ago
@mustangsammy95 Only simple things here are you and Redban. The guy's a moron and so are you.
uhwaykin 1 month ago
@uhwaykin face it, if Brian was not in the position he is in you would not be talking about him. You are so angry with your life you have to bash someone with a better life than yourself. Don't worry you won't be a virgin forever. Some girls will take money to help you out.
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uhwaykin 1 month ago
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@mustangsammy95 No shit, Sherlock. If Redban wasn't in the position he is in (i.e. on the show) I wouldn't be complaining about him being on the show. Your reasoning skills seem about as strong as his. No wonder you're nuthugging so hard.
uhwaykin 1 month ago
@uhwaykin What the Fuck you on about?
SRM30 1 month ago
i wish i had a pod cast so i could slam people with 8 minutes of unanswered comebacks about a year after the original confratation
sharkfinnigan 2 months ago
Is the dislike bar seriously that big just cause he doesn't want people to steal stuff and pos it on the internet?
Even though it is ironic. But I guess I could watch it free either way, he's really mad at the sites.
heatbucspies55 2 months ago
@heatbucspies55 I know, it's ridiculous. He actually said that he doesn't mind giving stuff for free. What annoys him is when sites take that stuff that he gave for free and make money from it.
GhastlyCretin85 2 months ago
There is a value added with the convenience of having all of these podcasts in one place, but you're right that the profits from advertising should be shared with the artists.
Greg042869 3 months ago
I like Bill Burr. I like Redban.
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!!!
kronker 3 months ago
@kronker someone who likes redban doesn't deserve to be gotten along with
devincyb1 2 months ago
Never heard Bill Burr before but I immediately liked this guy! Gonna listen to his podcast now.
gwl1983 3 months ago
@gwl1983
His stand up is awesome too. You should check it out.
heatbucspies55 2 months ago
fuck lawyers
pretorious700 3 months ago
Redban is a fucking retard who smokes too much weed... and I'm no weed hater BUT for some people it's not good. Rogan even talks about these people in one of his comedy albums yet does a podcast with one of these 35 year old boys who's still waiting to hit puberty.
PainAddict666 3 months ago
Man..quit the hate on redban
DariushUFC1985 3 months ago
I can't believe there are people actually defending and supporting the idiot, talentless man-child known as Redban. The guy would be homeless if it wasn't for Rogan's charity. Burr is the best comic and his argument is pretty simple. You can't make money off the creative product of someone else without cutting them in. Why is that so hard for people to get? The internet doesn't make breaking the law ok.
ashepherdcomedy 3 months ago 9
Music is done.... MOVIES is next! Really all of entertainment is dead... it will be in the next 15 years because of the internet.
lucky44124 3 months ago
@lucky44124 really? the internet will only advance movies in popularity, stupid cunt
demonikmagic 3 months ago
i think that artist should make money of performing live.. they should give there recorded stuff away for free to advertise their shows,, i like bill and brian so i hope both of them keep it up! #deathsquadfamily but i love ya too bill!
jwdead1 3 months ago
lmao Redban is stupid, but it works for him. By the way Umad Bill?
replytoomyass 3 months ago
Bryan Redbarn is the best male assistant around! Fuck Bill Berr!
TheLANDADDY 4 months ago
redban sucks so fucking much
devincyb1 4 months ago
This video of Bills podcast has the most comments out of all of the podcast videos :D . Its comical, people love an argument
Minkki82 4 months ago 2
Fuck.
stellarshore 4 months ago
bill burr is gay
hoorayforjesus 4 months ago
@hoorayforjesus your mom is gay
wesdex04 4 months ago 10
@wesdex04 Well your granny's a trannie!
meanbrew 2 months ago
What's the point of this video? It was discussed on the podcast. You're just being an asshole here and putting Brian down calling him a "man assistant" or whatever, and he may play that role, but Jesus, you're totally the opposite of the type of character Rogan preaches about.
yetiite 4 months ago
Bill's right. I remember that the band Jawbreaker was OK if you videotaped their performances and share it, but you couldn't make a profit from it.
JohnnyOstentatious 4 months ago
brian redban is a piece of work.
TheCroatiaKid 4 months ago
Bill Burr was right :)
BarrySlisk 4 months ago
Bill is the fucking man
beebleowns 5 months ago
Lime wiiihyyyahhh....i love how Bill can be a completely honest person while being an asshole too.
TheJovanist 5 months ago
What the fuck are you Bill haters talkin about?
barryjust1 5 months ago
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bill burr sucks ass. He doesn't have a good sense of humor.
jjld90 5 months ago
@jjld90
Note that you are watching Bill Burr's podcast, not his stand-up. Go watch his stand-up, I challenge you to laugh at nothing.
MadBagOfHorses 5 months ago in playlist Bill Burr
@MadBagOfHorses good point. i'll take a look
jjld90 5 months ago
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i fucking hate bill burr
ninjamonky7 5 months ago
@ninjamonky7
You're fucking around in the wrong place!
MadBagOfHorses 5 months ago in playlist Bill Burr
lol when he said Go fuck yourselves!! and also he was right, i havnt seen it yet now im gonna find it!! hahah
spinert 5 months ago
I like it how in the Joe Rogan podcast Bill Burr was saying he hates losing arguments and he was arguing with redban the whole time and said to red baan that he is one of those people that dont like arguing
EddieKuntz94 5 months ago
turtle.....oops I mean redban is a subnormal assbag! that needs to shut the fuck up.
whatthehellimbored 5 months ago
@whatthehellimbored
Redban seriously needs to be an invisible component in the Joe Rogan show. Redban's a fat sack of barely useful functionality and that's all.
MadBagOfHorses 5 months ago in playlist Bill Burr 3
Nobody makes money from a RSS feed except for the website the feed originates from(billburr.com). RSS requires a app to become a 'feed'. Stitcher app includes ads. Bill has a right as a content creator to ask them to remove his show or pay him some of the ad money. If the Stitcher app itself costs money but no ads were in the app, Bill wouldn't have a reason to ask for content removal because Stitcher made their money from the sell of a app THEY made but not the content others created.
MakeMoneyTakeMoney 5 months ago
Redban has a brain injury, for real according to Rogan
drummer1brt2gzs 6 months ago
Those artists are on American Idol because they're washed up not because of internet piracy.
I agree about the website because people shouldn't be able to take your stuff and make money. But us downloading records just to listen to and not to sell is different.
stopthehatechild 6 months ago
between 10 and 2... fucking true in LA...
hexecutioner 6 months ago
@bweazel:The fact that you keep using Google in all of your arguments shows you don't have a leg to stand on. Bottom line:they put his podcast on there without his consent. That's it. Money or no money, they put his podcast on there without his consent. And yes, he does deserve a cut if people are going on there, listening to the podcast,and then making a profit off of the ads that result from the listening. Like it or not, how artists distribute their work is their business. But forget it.
JackBNimbleify 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify Explain how, Jack. They are the same business model, one of them is accused of stealing, the other is credited for being a boost for publicity. You don't want to admit this, because then it shows how hypocritical your stance is. Yes, I realize it's law, but so is buckling up, and I never do that either. ;)
Bottom line, they did something for Burr and all the other artists that they wouldn't do on their own, and he's bitching like a woman. Shuddup, Burr.
bweazel 6 months ago
Bill is right, Redban is a fucking nitwit.
MattMonk 6 months ago
@bweazel:You can't make a profit off people's work(free or otherwise) without their consent. Period. Bill has said if they had approached him about it rather than just putting the podcasts up there,it wouldn't be an issue. Advertising isn't the issue here. Yes,it's good that Bill gets exposed to a wider audience,but the fact that someone is profiting off of your work without offering you a cut or informing you first is just basic ethics. This is why I said advertising doesn't mean shit in this
JackBNimbleify 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify *sigh* No one is making money off Burr's "work". They're making money off of their own work. Burr didn't build the database, Burr doesn't maintain the webpage, Burr isn't responsible for any of the other podcasts. Advertising is how they pay to keep the site up, an expense that Burr benefits from, but gives them zero dollars for. So, he gives them no money for free referrals, but he still deserves a cut of their profit? Explain yourself.
Also, does your logic apply to google?
bweazel 6 months ago
i hate joe rogan
cottodabodykill 6 months ago
Piracy = Imagine if your car gets stolen but it’s still there in the morning… Theft REMOVES the object. Piracy makes a COPY! :)
juggerknot9 6 months ago
Also, to all the people that it's Bill's fault for not hiding his RSS feed, here's my argument:if I leave the keys in the ignition of my car, does that give someone the right to steal it? No, it doesn't. It may be a bad move on my part, but no one has the right to take it.
JackBNimbleify 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify If you had a sign on the car that said FREE CAR, it wouldn't be stealing it, now would it?
bweazel 6 months ago
@bweazel:Publicity doesn't mean shit when other people are profiting off the work you do for free. And you're also a selfish cunt. Someone needs to come to YOUR town to get your money, like you're so important that someone needs to be your jester, otherwise they don't deserve it? I want to slap you in your priviliged Connecticut white face.
JackBNimbleify 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify Yes, it does mean shit. They deserve to profit. I wonder, does your logic also apply to google? Should google be put out of business? It doesn't make any of that content, it compiles other peoples intellectual property, and flashes ads all over the place. Don't see anyone bitching and moaning that they deserve a piece of googles profit. And why don't they complain? Because they realize google gives them way more publicity and makes them more money than not being on google would.
bweazel 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify This, like many other IP arguments, is simply picking on those who cannot defend themselves. They provide these people a service, put ads up (a transaction completely away from any IP holders) to pay for their site, they make a bit of profit, and people jump on them. Does anyone jump on googles billions? Nope. Same thing though. Ask yourself why you're so quick to pick on the little guy, but leave the big guys doing the exact same thing alone. Why?
bweazel 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify Yes, he needs to come here to get my money. Me simply listening to something he said does not mean I owe him money. And you call me privileged? Hahah, get real. I'm not the one saying things I say are so funny that people owe me money once they hear a joke of mine. THAT'S privileged. Now, if he were to spend the money to come down here, put on a live show, I'd be more than happy to buy a ticket, because his time is not in infinite supply. 1's and 0's are. Sorry, bro.
bweazel 6 months ago
@JackBNimbleify And yes, publicity means lots, even if people are profiting off of your work (in reality, they're profiting off of their own work, Burr didn't design the podcast search engine, Burr doesn't upkeep the server, Burr doesn't pay for the bandwidth, they do). So there you go. Burr gets free advertising, at someone else's expense, and he's still not happy. You and all the schmucks that support your line of thought need to slap yourselves in the face, and stop loving yourselves so much.
bweazel 6 months ago
Now I want to know what that coconut water was called
rankalot 6 months ago
THE ACTUAL SITUATION WERE TALKING ABOUT NOW........ITS STEALING PLAIN & SIMPLE...but in general everyone knows it is but we get away with it because thats simply how it is now...........but you have to choose the artists you go with & support. going to buy a dvd now
DJMASSAH 6 months ago
bill burr may be right but in the words of rogan himself........he is a bit cunty
jamie6foot4 6 months ago
No, Burr. You do not get the internet. You clearly didn't understand his argument at all. No one is "stealing" anything from you. Just cracks me up, these modern "artists". You have to pay to hear me speak, fuck you, you're funny, but you're not that funny. The only time you'll get a cent of my money is if you come to my fucking town and do a live show. Other than that, bite me. No tangible property was stolen. And you're getting publicity, so shut up.
bweazel 7 months ago
@bweazel No, bweazel, you do not get it. They use his podcasts to attract people to their site where they make money off of advertising. Listen before you speak. Okay? Otherwise, shut the fuck up, cause he ain't asking for your money. He doesn't like other people making money off of his labour. Has nothing to do with publicity. That's a punk excuse anyway. Like rappers sampling, making money off of the song, then hiding behind "its publicity for you".
schadenfreudelolz22 6 months ago
@schadenfreudelolz22 And this is any different to how google operates, how exactly? I would hardly call giving your opinions on a podcast, labor. Has everything to do with publicity. It's not a punk excuse. Burr gets free referrals, and pays nothing to this website. He does not know how much traffic they pull in, he does not know how large of percentage of hits he makes up of the page.
Are you seriously trying to play like this podcast search engine shouldn't exist? Then why should google?
bweazel 6 months ago
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@bweazel Dude you are such a fucking faggot it's not even funny.
SamusAbe 6 months ago
@bweazel
I don't think you get Bill's point and here's the missing link - as a 'consumer' of Bill's podcast I am paying my attention to receive his podcast. My attention is currency on the internet, its web traffic. If his podcast causes me to traverse a website and someone totally unrelated to his podcast gets money for my traffic on their website, then Bill is entitled to at least a percentage of that money if not all.
What supports your argument is that the artists don't pursue this.
MadBagOfHorses 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses No, I understand his point. I made it, I deserve money. However, I do not agree with him, because, like you say, the currency on the net is a whole different currency than what you use to buy things. He is being paid, he's being paid, like you say, in attention, not in dollars. And for some reason, he doesn't like this. I don't think he's entitled to any money. He did not bring attention to himself, the search engine did.
bweazel 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses Not at all. You, like Burr, put too much credit on the podcast itself, and not enough on the search engine. This isn't a topic about piracy. No one is committing piracy here, because these podcasts are free. What Burr doesn't seem to understand or care about, is the work that goes into making the database, maintaining the website, upgrading it, etc. which is all done for a benefit to him, which he pays zero cost for. He sounds like a pompous little bitch complaining about this.
bweazel 6 months ago
@bweazel
I agree that there is benefit to the artist in free advertising from the pirater (the site who maintains his content with no consent from the artist). Also that there are other possible benefits, but don't assume that there is no negative impact.
Bill isn't pursuing a lawsuit against the offender because he's not a pompous bitch. Its free and he doesn't care. His point is to those making money on this practice- that the law protects the artist, even if the law isn't often exercised.
MadBagOfHorses 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses Google does not get any consent from anyone, yet no one complains about them. If you're not calling google pirates, you cannot call these other people pirates, especially when the content is free in the first place.
I know he's not pursuing a lawsuit, but the mere fact that he is sitting here complaining about it shows his character. He is taking this free advertising he's getting for granted. The law isn't exercised because it exposes the hypocrisy of many people.
bweazel 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses A multi billion dollar corporation gets a thank you. A group of 20 somethings doing the exact same thing in their garage get a court summons. IP law, today, is used as a barrier-to-entry in what is probably the first and only free market on the planet, the internet. It bothers me to no end to hear Burr complain about this. Makes him look like an pretentious ass.
Answer my question though, would you apply your same logic to google? Or do they have too much money?
bweazel 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses My biggest complaint is that these artists do benefit from other peoples work and pay nothing for it, but then still behave as though they've been wronged. And when you really consider how the sites make their money, random advertisements that have nothing to do with the artist, instead have to do more with what the person searches for on the net, it has even less to do with the artist, and more to do with other, unrelated interests.
bweazel 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses Bill Burr, alone with his podcasts, would have never connected the consumer with a new product, like the webpage did. Say the person clicks on a best buy ad while listening to Bill Burr. Does Bill Burr deserve a part of that referral? Or does the webpage, again, deserve some credit for the work they did. Also, building a user base has more to do with the webpage, it's ease of use, and design, than it has to do with the artists on there. Give credit where credit is due.
bweazel 6 months ago
@bweazel
The concept you describe is used daily by websites who have a contractual agreement with their content provider. That example falls completely outside of this argument as this is about unsolicited use of content.
Look, I'm not saying that you're wrong. All the concept you describe is par for the course but it has to be legal. Redban was literally arguing the legality of these concepts with Bill Burr and the truth is that its not legal! Bill Burr could sue and get reparations. Period!
MadBagOfHorses 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses I asked you about google. Not other sites that have licensing agreements. It does not fall out of the context of this argument at all. That is the argument. This podcast search engine is almost exactly the same business model as google. Do you consider google to be depriving artists of revenue? Google does not obtain consent at all
Something is not legal if it is immoral. Our law should not be used to favor one group ahead of others, and that is exactly how IP law is used today.
bweazel 6 months ago
@MadBagOfHorses Oh, for sure. Just having a convo, man. Not trying to bitch at you. Ya, Redban's argument is a piece of crap. He should have approached Burr with my argument. The way Redban argued this makes Burr sound like he is justified. I seriously doubt Burr would come out ahead though, and the podcast search engine could have a case.
Sad, that these IP pushers always pick on those least able to defend themselves. Anyone who picks on the weak, is a coward himself, that includes Burr. ;)
bweazel 6 months ago
Burr, I had no idea you were such a punk. If you do it for free, shut the fuck up about it and just be happy people are enjoying your work. They deserve some money for doing something with your work that you did not. They made a search engine and a webpage for podcasts. Shit... you should be thanking them for putting you on there and giving you more publicity, but what are you doing? Bitching like a crybaby that you're not getting a cut.
bweazel 7 months ago
redban has aids
JHWYO22 7 months ago in playlist Joesz
My argument wasnt if it was ok for people to put Bills podcast on a website, my argument is dont have a public RSS feed if you dont want people to do that. Bill needs to hide his rss feed if he doesnt want people to do that.
redban 7 months ago
LIMEWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE!
linc14 7 months ago
I use to listen to Joe Rogan's podcast on a regular basis, but now only when I see a good guest. Biggest complaint: Redban is beyond annoying. He is obviously smart when it comes to comp technology, but he is not funny or insightful, (Unlike Bill & Joe) and should not be an on-air personality.
wakinglifepictures 7 months ago 34
@wakinglifepictures Even though redban is annoying he was still right about the RSS feed. Lmao it does not change anything you cant be mad at redban for bill bur being a moron and allowing people to steal his shit.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 If Redban was right, why would the company decide to offer Bill Money, and when he refused and told them they couldn't use his show, they stopped? If Redban is right, they would have told him to fuck off.
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lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 you are just as stupid and annoying as redban. I have the ability to rip off all kinds of copyrighted material, this does not make the people who make this work stupid for producing things in formats that allow it to be stolen.
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures we know hes stealing it but you just cannot grasp what is going on. its probably because you are a man child.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 redban (like yourself) was unable to grasp that Bill understands that in the digital age, all media can be stolen. He felt that the website should have approached him to use his podcast, so he refused to do business with them. Redban and brain dead tech nerds like yourself could not get past the fact that the RSS feed allows ppl to steal it, so its Bill's fault for not knowing (Which is not the argument that Bill was having)
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures No bill and his fanboys are retarded. I hate redban but its common sense.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 Redban555, your brain is unable to undrestand the argument. If Bill owned a radio station and broadcast his MMP over the air, anybody could record it and use it for whatever purpose (Bill understands this). Your little pea-redbrain thinks that you're having an argument about technology (Becuase you are a tech nerd) and not about intellectual property rights (Because you are not funny or creative, just like Redban)
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures lmao stomp riding bill burs dick. You are trying to find logic in your shit position but its ok i get it if you dont understand it.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 Nerdban555, you are not only on Redban's dick, you are exactly like him. Just like him, you refuse to admit when you are wrong, and refuse to address any of the points being made. You just keep repeating the same strawman argument that has nothing to do with what is being debated. Nerds are like everyoe else, they're ignorant of most things, but unlike everyone else, they think they're not. What is my shit position? (Besides bending your mother's ass over doggy style)
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures hm if anything i would like for redban to be off the show BUT that does not make bill burr and his fan boys right.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 Redban/Nerdban555's thought process:"He doesn't even know what an RSS feed is, and I do. Therefore any debate that involves an RSS feed means I am the winner. I will just keep repeating that they don't understand what an RSS feed is and refuse to address any of thier arguments". What EXACTLY is my position on this? What exactly am I wrong about?
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures Winner? lmao at this point if you dont get it its not worth explaining again. Its a common sense thing. We are not talking about whether it was stealing or not because i agree they still stole but i dont think you understood it the first time i said it.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 I heard the original rogan podcast, redban was semi-shocked that bills podcast wasnt on stitcher and wanted to know why. bill explained that they were stealing his shit, so he told them to stop and they offered him money. He refused it based on principle, & they still had to stop. Then for some reason, your buttboy decided to start arguing and take stitcher's side in the matter. Just like you, he couldn't exlain why Stitcher was right, just kept repeating "U guys dont get it."
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago
@wakinglifepictures We are not talking about sticher or the stealing part. This is the part you are not grasping. Bill burr basically put a sign over all his shit TAKE MY STUFF FOR FREE and then he is butt hurt and confused when people steal his crap, what a moron. Period.
lilsm555 4 months ago
@lilsm555 I dont think u listened to the original podcast. Unlike you, Redban would not give an inch on his position. Bill was like a lawyer asking pointed questions about the illegality of it and that goofball kept repeating "U don't understand RSS Feed" like a retarded robot. Guess what Nerdban555, you have at least admitted it was illegal stealing(Unlike your boyfriend), so I pardon you. Am I not merciful?
wakinglifepictures 4 months ago