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  • I didn't even know Polly Shore was still alive.

  • i didn't know kirk hammet gave drum lessons :b

  • whatever, i learned something from this. he can only tell you how people, he can't put the skill in your hands.

  • all i saw is what you can do.....and rubbing it in my face, not how to do it step by step with thorough instruction. its very vague!

    thumbs down from me

  • wow.. mario evolved..!

  • Duct tape on the drum heads doesn't bode well for your credibility in the drumming world. You should know how to TUNE YOUR DRUMS so you don't have to put duct tape on them. Proper head choice, and proper tuning technique means NO TAPE.

  • @911wuzjews It's for dampening.. Not tuning..

  • @DrummingNonStop Yes, I know what dampening is, but it won't cut the sound that much, especially if volume is the issue. Again, proper head choice and tuning will make your drums sing. Duct tape is just a bad idea on your drum heads, but I suppose if you cant' tune properly and can't afford something like moon gel, it's the only choice you have.

  • gosh his technique is horrible..why make instructional videos? :S

  • So. When you speed up a double stroke roll you slice and raise your hands? i never woulda known...

  • man..i hate bad technique.

  • no beginner could possibly do this

  • Matthew Broderick with a perm anybody?

  • pshhh i can totally do that!

  • holy, french grip

  • kirk hammett on drum!

    

  • Nice shirt!

  • Fail because he tells you what to do but not how to do it. But seeing as he can't do a roll very well himself it's no wonder why he wouldn't explain it, because he probably doesn't know exactly what he's doing.

  • Whys this guys drumsticks look like chopsticks? There so skinny!

  • is that polly shore

  • Look at how crooked his fast double strokes are.. Ive been playing for about 8 years and my double strokes are much faster and much more accurate...

  • YOURE TEARING ME APART LISA

  • @ymistillavirgin oh hi mark, im just here playing some drums, anyways hows your sex life?

  • remember people everyone has to start somewhere,now your all a bunch of fuckin experts right,assholes

  • @liljon71 - Dude give it up already. These people are far from experts. The guy in this video hasn't even developed proper control just by the way he starts the exercise. Wake up! Read a book, a drum book specifically; About how to play the exercise for double strokes properly. You fail to see these people on 'expert village' are showing things and clrearly not benefitting from their own practice techniques and recommendations! Wake UP!

  • where are all you peoples videos that are condeming this man?

  • yes. horrible hands. Oak Custom. wasted.

  • Expert village= ?

    Wait a second, there is no way to describe it

  • he starts of good but when he get to his max speed he gets really sloppy lol

  • his technique is horrible.....he's just letting the sticks bounce, he's not controlling it

  • Tone is so uneven lmfao

  • his technique is god-fucking awful.

  • Great demo.Very usefull Thanks a lot!

  • this is surprisingly good for expert village

  • This guy is a very good teacher!!! But what is his name, please???.....

  • @nazrat1st jason kay

  • Although it's still not as detailed as it could be, this is the FIRST VillageExpert I've seen (by chance, not by choice!) that didn't totally fail. I'm impressed!

  • They should delete these videos from youtube

  • haha i like how he looks at the camera when he's getting his speed going

  • Nonot expertvillage again...

    If I see one of these expert fools on the street I gonna... yeah. You know.

  • why does everyone say this clip is a fail?

  • @danmatt44 They are jealous ; )

  • @danmatt44 I'm asking myself the same question. I found this to be one of the few expertvillage clips that was actually not a fail.

  • Apparently he is focusing on beginners. I thought his double stroke roll was perfect and remember, what works for some may not work for others so to all of you who are trying to blast this guy.... take a look in the mirror before you pass judgement. Let me see YOU post a video that looks and sounds as good as this. Oh and by the way, I am a drummer and I thought this video was awesome.

  • @grk608 Hey man, this is a clip of my doubles (and singles). Check it out, comment, rate etc!

    youtube.com/watch?v=6RQMztLDrD­U&feature=channel_video_title

  • if this is beginner,,what have you left for advanced drummers? :P

  • Terrible posture. Slumping in a chair is very bad showmanship. Also you shouldn't have thumbs on top. It is a very bad habit with some drummers. Anothert bad habit with this guy is he only has three fingers on the each stick.

    Before teaching, perfect a few things.

  • @spikeyty He didn't have his thumbs on top. In german grip the thumbs sit in a diagonal angle because that's how it looks like when you straighten your fingers when you place your palm flat on a table surface. Moreover American grips place the palms in a diagonal angle thus making the thumbs on top, which this guy didn't do.

    Before teaching, perfect a few things, right back at you.

    Check out Carter Beauford, his thumbs are on top. Have a go at him and see if he'll slap you.

  • what a shit

  • your form is god awful

  • gud dog

  • Tommy Wiseau's brother

  • @biohead66 Marty Friedman's brother

  • @elfquest108 LOL I was thinking the same thing

  • There is a flurry of speed and skill then... "We call that the double stroke roll." Wow.

  • ok finally a expert village video that is decent

  • :( I thought I was at a higher level then beginner i guess not :'(

  • it sounded like a helicopter going up, haha, cool

  • My ears...

  • thanks for no advice, idiotvillage

    check jim chapin's advice...

  • what the...............

    this video wasnt stupid, IMPOSSIBLE

  • No way. When your double strokes speed up, you're hitting the drum faster?! Woulda never guessed.

  • anything + expert village = FAIL......

  • what it the problem? the video looks OK for me

  • I like the fact that it says beginner XD

  • 1:04 it's just the same :P

  • They get a lot of money with their videos... but all of them suck-.-

  • Hey guys, i just recently poted my free styling video but please read the description before thank you. Just serach " Drumming by Vincenzo Mariano"

  • He looks sad, mabbe a boi friend would help? hahaha ;P

  • @fragilebeaster mate if youre impressed and know you wont do it better yourself just stand for it ;)

  • not a very good technique

    try doing this on a pellow!

  • @xDaNiEldrummerx no. this is the best roll technique in my opinium.

  • @00mHe why is it that every time I post a comment, it's always on the top!? it happened three times to me already!

  • "If you own an instrument* fill out the form at expertvillage and blah blah blah..."

    *Knowledge of the instrument isn't a requirement

  • wow, expert village? this is probably the first video from expert village that actually makes sense

  • first expertvillage vid that isn't embarrassing as hell

    this guy kinda knows what hes talking about

  • at last, an expert village video that doesnt suck big time!

  • It's a machine!

  • Are Those duct tapes on the Batter heads?

  • you do not bounce, i can double stroke faster than that without bouncing

  • wow this was actually a little helpful....good god it's a sign of the apocalypse, expert village made a somewhat helpful video! We're all gonna fucking die!!!!

  • faggot village

  • Does anyone know where i can find the technique for bounching sticks ?

  • 0:32 itz teh roflcoptaaaah!!!

  • And this is why expertvillage should be banned. I want to learn from proper videos. I'm not a drummer and even I can spy (with my little eye) that his technique s*cks.

  • next level strokes

  • wow he reallly did take it to the next level...

  • bleah!!

  • ITS FUCKING BUFFALO BILL!!!

  • horrible ass technique.

  • ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?! :DD THIS TECHNIQUE IS TOTALLY WRONG!! Sorry for caps lock but this vid just made me laugh :)

  • yo this guy's mouth moves like the joker

  • krik hammet on drums

  • I cringed when it showed his hands from the side

  • free drums lessons is better than expert village

  • ชอบๆ

  • Kirk Hammett?

  • YOUR TECHNIQUE IS ALL WRONG. Sorry, but your arms are so close to your ribs the power needed to play live or with a band is very weak. wrist work is good :). If you notice your elbows come out when speeding up, therefore indicating that you are using muscles which (in practicing situations) arent needed. For power on stage and within the double patterns accenting beats become more obvious. If you disagree, then maybe my technique is perhaps incorrect for your style of playing. Nice kit man :D

  • Hmm Nice !

  • have a hair cut bro...

  • it sounds like a helicopter

  • When he plays slow @01:22, he has the right idea...

    but when he speeds up @00:30, he uses no wrist!!

    for people actually trying to learn here, keep your wrists in motion, not your arms!

  • @drumsarecoolandstuff

    Thank you for kinda backing up what I was saying. Haha apparently you're the only one commenting here who is. Oh well, I mean I guess it is a "beginner" lesson anyway and this is how I'd show beginning drummers doubles first, just to teach them how to control bounce, which is all this is. But you eventually need to learn to be fluid and control the strokes instead of using your arms in a one piece move. And it is difficult to learn to do this at high speeds.

  • @jwatanabe90 exactly.

    I find, with snare, that doubles speed isn't that important. You can double sixteenths at most tempos and still keep the strainers vibrating in a roll.

    fluid, slow doubles > choppy, wild doubles

  • @drumsarecoolandstuff

    Good point. If you notice that in this guy's video for the press roll, he uses the same form (locked wrists, one piece pressing arm movement) as he does for fast doubles. Evidence right there that something isn't right. Well it is Expert Village, where nothing from these "experts" can be taken seriously lol

  • Buuuuudy

  • i never perfected the double stoke open roll so i gave up

  • drums + expert village = FAIL...... 

  • @gcharocks what the heck is so bad about expert village.

  • What Kenny G. does here is let the stick bounce naturally. The correct way is to

    have the stick bounce when you lift your arms. Set a metronome at 60 and practice 8th notes with the first note falling (gravity) and the second one lifting your arm (lower arm). That means that your arms motion is constant (up-down, up-down etc). Increment speed slowly and start spreading hits on all the drums. After a year you will have master double strokes.

  • Why do these guys put the text over the drums?

  • Jason Kay plays drums?

    I made and ass comment like everyone else! I'm now cool!

  • Yeah right - take that to your floor tom.. no power to it.

  • @nortuber

    On toms, your right. You have to control the second hit and not rely on bounce so much. I played in a rockabilly group and used a Sing Sing Sing type swing rythem on the floors and used double strokes with it, sound great, but you cannot use bounce, but actually play out the 2 hits..

  • jimmy page Plays drums?

    

  • james hetfield kicked kirk hammet from metallica, now he turns to drum.lol, just kidding

  • kirk hammett brother!

  • @J0v41 I THOUGHT IT WAS KIRK

  • Your arms are to far in, technically they should be at a right angle.

  • That ain't Pauly Shore, is it? AAAOOOWWWOOOWWOOOWW.chillin', I need to go get some grindage.....where's my main man Link-aaage? XD

  • this is kirk hammet wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kirk Hammett plays drums?

  • look up Jim Chapin's vid on doubles to see how to do it with power and finesse...they basically will sound like singles when you do them right. It's called an open roll for a reason. If you want to play a closed roll in doubles then you rely more on bounce but it should still sound smooth and not all choked

  • a drummer must never speed up without stoping

    or it messes up your time

  • this guy looks like a petafile

  • @drummer9042 What the fuck is a petafile? Are you fucking retarded? If you mean "pedophile" or "paedophile" they you're still a c*nt for being so judgemental, I'd like to see you saying that to this guy's face.

  • @Mikeper94 lol i didnt write that i didnt know what u were talking about and then i had to look back at this video. one of my friends (who isnt even a drummer) must have wrote it when he was on my account

  • this is a complete stupid lessons..double strokes are another thing.

  • sorry dude to see so many followers wanna bash your technique. Last time i checked, we all played drums, not the violin.

    your roll is tight, lesson well presented. good work

  • that's a noisy practice pad

    And sorry that's the wrong way to do double stroke. That's a weak techique.

  • @TheDice2008

    Hey mister douche-drummer.

    There is no such thing as a "wrong way" to do things. Its all about making a choice. This guy thought that this way sounded the best, so he plays like that. For your info i play the same way (although i use the traditional grip) and thats how my teacher taught me. My teacher has been playing in one of the best symphony orcestras in sweden for 20 years, so i think he knows what hes talking about.

  • hey,

    just a coupla questions. is there a way of watching these videos in order as a complete playlist as opposed to just being grouped by search. also if there are any other good tutorial vids that are informative but still interesting. this dood actually gets the balance pretty well right. any help would be sweet.

  • just answering my own question here to anyone interested. if you search for jason kay on ehow all his videos are up there snd much more accessible than on here

  • these arent even double strokes

  • Holy shit, there is a kit right next to you and your playing a pad?

  • Rudiments are what separate posers from real drummers.

  • that shit was off the hook

  • BOUNCING !!! WTF YOU CHEAT !!!!!! do what i did and got them to almost a roll without bouncing and use wrist for control not the bounce ! the reason why im saying this is because if ure doing Doubles on the snare and you want to use your toms in the proses the doubles are going to sound SHIT!!!, so get control and you will find that everything els comes allot easier :)

  • im so pissed cause i can't get these double strokes even! i cant get a good double out of my left hand when i start playing a roll

  • Try a practice my band teacher tells us to do.

    To practice your control for both hands, you're going to play is - R,L,R,L,RR,LL,RR,LL and gradually increase. Hope that helped

  • well i have comtrol, i like play drums for a year or so, but i recently started on double strokes, but the point is just i cant get a double out of my left hand

  • @allmetaliswelcome THATS ALRIGHT ! KEEP PRACTICING ok !! the thing is this guy must be playing for at least 10 years...... Everyone start somewhere... right ?? !! ;-)

  • im practicing for a month non stop allready, and there isn't much process. and i know, i believe in practicing, its just going slower than i expected. and btw hes playing for 30 years ^_^

  • DAMMM , 30years only ??!! lol  ;-) thats a LONGGGG druming experience, i i'm at my 14years now but if i can say something for you, DONT WORRY b-cuz PROGRESS COMES NOT ONLY WITH TIME... IT COME also with the ''passion'' you have for druming. If you '' f****g LOVE PLAY drum , you will progress FASTER than someone who do not want to play that mutch... KEEP UP MATE !

  • well, that passion is there too, i guess else i wouldt be drumming 45 minutes a day! and thanks man

  • @allmetaliswelcome well it's also about practicing SMART. you MUST have purpose in your practice or you become stagnant. have a plan when you go to practice....dont practice aimlessly.

  • u guys are just a bunch of faggots that can't drum for shit. Tape is used to damper drums. It has a different sound than other methods of tamping, but maybe tape is more appropriate for his genre of music. If some of you are complaining about "uncontrolalble bouncing", then ur just a plain noob that can't control his snare for shit.

  • Since when does someone control their snare when playing? Last time I checked you control your sticks... Anyway, Ive never understood dampening, it takes away from the drums tone sometimes. But instead of relying on rebound to play, and trying to control it, its easier just to learn push-pull and then control each stroke. You get the must articulation and accuracy...

  • travis barker uses tape he may not be good to some but hes doing something right....

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  • I don't care for EV, I wouldn't call them experts, but all he is doing is showing how they are played, not trying to make a clean solo.

    As for the tape, well... apparently he's a teacher, so that could have something to do with his students. And that room pretty much forces you to put it against the wall. Come on now

  • @big10inchs as if tape on a drumset makes him not a pro? get real

  • its un professional as. look at it.. it looks horrid!

  • @big10inchs whats wrong with it its right get it in to your fucking head

  • fucker village

  • If I bounced my sticks they'd fly through my TV

  • Bouncing is exactly what you're not supposed to do ... stroke each one! And I noticed your grip breaks down when you go faster too.

  • @klank67 your retarded

  • this guy sucks and I'm the retard ... fuck you mapexman

  • @klank67 ok im gay :)

  • SLICE!!!!!! like crazy

  • Wow, you fail. Work on your left hand cause its slower than you right, it sounds horrible. And plus you slice WAY too much. If your going to make a informational video on how to drum, maybe you should learn to drum yourself.

  • What's "to slice" in drumming terms? Sorry, I'm brazilian, but I see a lot people saying that.

    Peace

  • It's when you "slice" your sticks into the drum and an angle like he did when he got faster. On an actual drum it gives of a horrible sound, your hand strokes are not even and it looks very unprofessional.

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  • bouncing double strokes...? thats a buzz roll..

  • no a buzz is when you preaty much force multiple bounces from hit. Double you can hear all the bounces evenly, right. But with buzz rolls you hence the name pressing the stick into head to create a buzz. Then you alternate, speed up, and then theres a bee in your drum.<(^_^<)

  • Kenny G. plays drums?

  • hahahaha

  • hey look its weird all D:<

  • i didnt know pauly shore played drums

  • kirk hammett also plays drums?

  • if richard simmons and pauly shore had a kid XD thats what he'd look like

  • 30 years and he still flails his arms out while doing a double stroke roll? learn to REEELLAAAXXX.

  • he playys good but he keeping drumstick wrong

  • thanks for the lesson.

    I find that a good exercise to improve the double stroke roll is to practice accenting the second stroke , with the wrist at slower speeds and with the fingers when going faster.

    Also "inverting" the roll for practice so that instead of being "RRLLRRLL..." it is played "RLLRRLLR

  • Ok well that's the easy way to play the double stroke roll, but really not the proper way. Drummers who do this properly do bounce the stick, but they use their fingers to CONTROL the second hit, instead of simple pushing the stick into the head. They can play a double stroke roll and make the second hit on each double actually sound louder than the first.

  • @jwatanabe90 resulting in a better sounding drum roll?

  • @ihatebobsaget1989

    Yup. You can use only bounce to do a double stroke roll, but it doesn't work well on toms and surfaces with less rebound. You see how his sticks get very low when he goes faster? Just bounce won't allow you to play a louder double stroke without sounding uneven. Double stroke rolls shouldn't look like buzz rolls.

    The "proper" way to do a double stroke roll does use bounce, but involves snapping the fingers back in to produce the second hit off the rebound from the first hit.