Pavarotti in his prime: 'Quanto e bella' 1969, live

[Isreal94]

No words.

[pavlover1]

Phenomenal.



[myfavourite08]

Big P not only did the belcanto, this would not be enough to explain this phenomenon. For me he combined the lyric tenor with the dramatic way of singing, thus creating something new and unique, which had not been there before.

[chaiter1]

beautiful. period.

[phantom8472]

He's doing this a half step up. I've seen other live videos where he has transposed up (there's one of him doing Dalla Sua Pace up a half step as well). I think it's to make it high enough that he doesn't have to sit in the passaggio as much. I dunno though...

[shantibel]

A treasure. Thank you.

[trelingua]

After that , tell me if you could resist to the man that is courting you...What a voice...what a feeling!!! RIP Luciano....

[thehix]

I just LOVE his vibrato and the brightness of his voice. You can hear his joy of singing in it :). Wow!

[Nater389]

Alright...he said himself his voice was suited for the 19th century.

[sirdelrio]

all this discussion is what i get for arguying musical matters with musical lovers and not musicians like me, it is like the critics vs the performer.

[sirdelrio]

i think all this misunderstanding is not caused by your dissagrement of me saying pavarotti sounds here like early xxth century tenors (wich is neither false nor underestimation) but because in my first comment i sayed he was IMITATING someone, thefore hurting fan suceptibilities. ok, let's make things clear: pavarotti IS my favorite tenor ever.

[sirdelrio]

you can all disagree with me, but that doesn't mean i'm wrong. truth is not a democratical issue. the only way we could know for sure would be if we asked pavarotti himself or a recognized vocal teacher. i think i heard him recognizing this in some interview. i will search and post.

[Nater389]

Yes, I think we need to see some evidence. Enough of your word...and only your word. Just because you disagree with everyone else doesn't make you right either. If you prove otherwise(with fact and not opinion), I will gladly agree. Personally, my opinion would be that you need to listen to more of early Pavarotti and you will see his vibrato was fast and furious most of the time. His vibrato was fast anyway, even in his older age.

[sirdelrio]

@Nater389 well... regarding evidence (scientific method fans) i will not create and post some video explaining my point, contrasting pavarotti's early singing with other tenors of the previous generation, i have better things to do.

[sirdelrio]

@Nater389 I need to ask: what precisely is it you don't agree with? because i have said many things, and you could well be refuting some but not others, or refuting some because you don't like others.

[sirdelrio]

@Nater389 i wich part of what i said is even suggested that my disagreement with everyone means i am right?

[sirdelrio]

every time i hear this it becomes more clear to me: that excessive vibrato... he is trying to sound like early xxth century tenors. besides, this claim is not ilogical, everybody in their youth try to develop their talents by imitating their previous generation idols.

[rem1736]

Is it the recording or is he singing it up a half step (in Db)?

[sirdelrio]

it's curious to see a master of bel canto imitating his vocal idol in his youth. here he tries his best to sound like Di Steffano. and i prefer Pavarotti's own sound.

[dolicimani]

I don't think he's trying to do that at all. All his passaggio notes would not have been covered if there were the case!

[sirdelrio]

well, excuse me, maybe i didn't make myself clear. you're right it is not di stefano he sounds like. what i meant is that he tries to stay within that kind of sound proper of early XXth century great tenors. would you agree he sounds more like them than the wonderful pavarotti we all recognize?

[tdeane34]

no.

[sirdelrio]

excuse me again, is not my fault to have absolute pitch-all harmonic recognition- multiple part distintive-ears. i must suppose you can read a music score in your mind like me, or even more, are some sort of a new mozart. every time i post a comment i receive an inmediate rejecting reply from some deaf die-hard fand.

[sirdelrio]

and besides, you are not paying attention. i'm not saying he sings poorly, you idiot. but it is evident you don't have sensibility for style and genre.

[sirdelrio]

at his best of development, not of use. take for instance the "non son capace" and the "non v'ha cosa ad essa ignota" from the metropolitan recording with kathleen battle. it has no equal: the acoustical richness, the perfect legato, the non-abuse of vibrato in high notes as in here. anyway, deaf ears...

[Mooorhe]

He's far better here than any of the later Met performances, more freedom on the high notes, more focus to the sound and much more agility and better piano notes. His legato is perfect in both, but he is at his best here.

[IanSidden]

Dude, chill out :) . No one here is deaf nor are they idiots. He sounds like he has the exact same technique. He's younger, sure, but I hear no trace of vocal imitation.

It sounds like Pavarotti and no one else.

[Nater389]

Yea, going to have to say no. Point failed. This is Pavarotti at a young age. If you are used to hearing him in the late 80's 1990 and after this could explain your comments.

[sirdelrio]

like i sayed before: it is OBVIOUS that he sounds like pavarotti, he could not sound otherwise, even you would sound like you and nobody else. it takes very sensible ears to recognize the timbrical qualities that ilustrate my whole point. To use an analogy from math: saying he sounds like pavarotti is the trivial solution to the equation.

[sirdelrio]

@Nater389 yes i'm used to hear him rather late in his life. and yes it is obvious that it is him young, but doesn't he sound like early xxth century tenors? of course, setting aside the fact that his grandious exhalted romantic rendering is already there and not the intimacy of early tenors, my whole point IS ABOUT THE TIMBRE OF HIS VOICE: it is bright and too vibrated unlike his late soft and ocassionally vibrated timbre.

[sirdelrio]

@dolicimani ok, i recognize i made a mistake, but the mistake was to say LIKE DI STEFANNO, what i meant was early xxth century tenors

[loveluciano1]

very beautiful he sung here, very clear and brilliant. bravo luciano, my beautiful soul.

[arcot9]

WOW...this is amazing singing!!

[LordMoe9]

I love hearing Pavarotti with that youthful sound to his voice

[slowpokecat]

thank you for posting this. RIP Maestro