US Overthrows Iranian Gov in 1953 (1 of 2)

[CaptainSandyHook]

How is it that Iranian mobs and secret police can be bought for a few dollars ? Seems to me that the blame for the coup rests with corruptible elements of Iranian society. Why was propaganda against the government effective? Where were the ethical and rational Iranians dxuring this turmoil?

[solo141984]

who are you fcukin people to analyze and give your opinion..

don-t let me catch you saying shit about mossadeq.. he was a greater man then any of your filthy corrupted presidents..

[Relugus]

Mossadegh was actually very pro-American, so the notion of him siding with the Soviets was nonsense. This was all about oil, and the ridiculous paranoia about communism.

When the state intervenes on behalf of corporations in foreign lands, that is fascism. The CIA, certainly, is an organisation Mussolini would be proud of.

[imbrd]

and each propagated 'official' reason is more bs than the last. ie- The crusades were meant to "oust the evil non-RC christians". Then they try to justify imperialism by sayin how 'superior' they r to the rest of the world. And now we c all these half assed lies made by govt or companies to entice stupid people into invading the middle east and attacking everyone there. ie- "the bullshit terror scare"

o & we cant forget the bullshit drug scare that led to a BS war on drugs.

[ycats1000]

it says in the video that they did it because they were creating a socialist state and that makes it victim of the cold war, just like everyone else-

the russians did the same thing, getting communist parties around the world to overthrow their goverments (most of which were perfectly fine beforehand)-

the cold war was bullshit, still people act as if it is still happening...

[themanishere4]

for "bestmanme08" the US government knew Mossadeq was a nationalist and not an alleged "Communist". The reason the US and Brits did Operation Ajax coup was because they knew Mossadeq would nationalize the sovereign Iranian oil resources and taken them out of the greedy thieving hands of the US/British imperialist oil companies. The "red menace" was a tool to continue US imperialism, just like Guatemala when the US overthrew Arbenz for the imperialist US United Fruit Company.

[ZEITGEISTism]

themanishere4

Abosolutely correct and the USA has started demonising Iran all over again using the same dirty tactics as in 1953 (rent a riots etc) its so disgustingly transparent but they are getting away with it again because not many people KNOW what happened in 1953 in Iran and have never heard of Mossadegh

[drbayoms]

@ZEITGEISTism

You speak with alot of intelligence. If more Americans, studied the history of the sins that are perpetrated in their names. They would not fall for this BS that Bush and Obama are trying to pull. Next "terrorist" attack that is actually "successfull" will be strategically pinned on Iran. Bet on it!

[Bestmanme08]

The US was genuinely scared of the Red Menace in 1953 when they put the Shah back on the throne! Read All The Shah's Men at amazon for more on this

[ZEITGEISTism]

Bestmanme08

Bah humbug

[ihatekhomeini]

@Bestmanme08 The red menace was just a way to legitimize US geopolitics and imperial hegemony. It was the US that was the true menace.

[EliteAbriter]

My grandfaatherwas in the savak

[7AAA7]

Dr. Mossadegh didn´t even support communism!! how could they fear that the red ones will take over! BS!

Those who know will never forget what US and GB did!

[ImperialGuardofIran]

in his last day in office his own party stopped supporting him and he totally relied on communist support

[dvy45]

usa is suffering from the damage the caused 56 years ago. FUCK THE CIA.

[IRANEHMA]

mamad reza "mamad damag" was a traitor and was a puppet, Iranians who love Iran love Dr. Mohammad Mossadegh.

[alexs2009freedom]

Shocking that such a video exists at a time when this video completely contradicts The Political Propaganda delivered by the Pro-Democracy groups with a motive of Neo-Colonialism.

In fact having people make choices based on purposely in-accurate information, deceit, is the best reason I can think of why democracies are an oxy-moron and give people less of an ability to chose than the historically more successful non-machievellian monarchies with a tradition of freedom.

[alexs2009freedom]

If it took less than $10,000 in expenses to restore the lawful king back to power (the cost of 5 cars back then or a few pages of advertisement in the New York Times), then this begs another powerful and significant question.

How much was spent and by whom to bring Mosadegh to power on the ticket of as a so called nationalist and populist theme? Organization on any large scale is very expensive. The answer would help people see, if Mosadegh was really the best thing for Iran or not.

[savakiii]

How was mossadeq legally democratic ? he was posted prime minister by the shah.. In that case he would be illigiment to. think people.. By the way US and Britain had part in the 1979 revolution to..

[ImperialGuardofIran]

true

[GuillermoValladares]

The world should be a better place now.

Never is too late to change the evil ways.

Hope the powerful countries learn something good from their mistakes

[Fred2287]

They did takeover the only democratic regime

On Iran and what are the consequences:

IRANs MULLAHS régime (Thats Fucked up) Dont you think we should give away some shit medals to CIA!

Whoever helped that shit happened

[blaziermissy]

The elite use the citizenry of the world as slaves and parasite off of the resources.

That's exactly what it all boils down to.

Ignorance must be bliss, because not knowing makes life easier.

However, if I'm going to be used and my life meaningless and expendable, as well as be lied to, I would rather be miserable and informed than content and ignorant.

[blaziermissy]

Strange how our CIA and govt always use some lame excuse to procure resources and control.

I don't see how we, the people, can be so gullible and ignorant to such atrocities. I guess it wouldn't make me angry if I weren't a moral human being. The sad part is our govt uses gullible religous people to stand behind them.

This world is jacked up, and only though education can we overcome the immorality and corruption that greedy elites lie about, and that we, the citizenry, seem to swallow

[prkjs08]

Mosadegh would have been the best thing to happen to Iran in the 20th century. Goddamn colonialists in the UK and US...

[Pariwarnapari]

It is a shame to see Iran''s politic manuplated by foriegn hand and still the case. Molah are British

[Kittykattkute]

I agree with you.

[iiNDiTC]

can the people around the world from all countries get a break? everywhere you look...africa, asia, middle east...the people are oppressed against their will...one day the people will rise from all countries

[chaghar]

i do not support democracy at all. i want our 2500 years of imperial rule back.

shah was overthrown just because he was not a puppet of west and he was strengthening the country very much.

in those days there was no economy and no army that could be compared to irans and iran also had billions of dollars of money supporting the economy.

now where is that oil and money going?

to russia because they are completing that nuclear shit.

boro mokhet ro beshoor bache.

[99999999988888888]

The Shah WAS a puppet and a dictator. After Mossadeq nationalized Iran's oil, Britian got pissed off, ran to America and replaced him for a more pro-West, anti-Soviet government. He signed a 30 year deal to give the Brits our oil for nearly no money at all, this is fucking pathetic. His secret police killed thousands who spoke their mind against their government.

[chaghar]

hw was selling it for 25 dollars a barrel whih was better than the war time which khomeini was selling it for 8 dollars a barrel.

boro kon bede baba.

har chizi ke gofti ye javabe mah behet dada.

boro begir khabeto bokon kari be bidari nadashte bash.

[99999999988888888]

You need to work on your history. He signed a contract with the Brtis to sell our oil for over 30 years to which he would recieve 1 million pounds a year, that is fucking pathetic. Stop talking about Khomeini, I do not support him nor his ideology. I agree, he was crap. Reza Shah did great things, he may have done positive things, he may have taken positive steps, but he did alot of foolish things.

[99999999988888888]

The Shah was only a solider, he had postive views, but he had the wrong way of doing them. Iran has been trying since the late 1890 to break the shackles of Monarchism, foreign Imperialism etc.

[parandehdarya]

he imprisoned leftists and islamist(khomeyni)not anyone else,u russian puppet.

[99999999988888888]

People who had nothing to do with leftists and extremism were tortured and killed, you British puppet.

[lakeshow499]

exactly... he tortured all sorts of people...

[chaghar]

alan kheili misazim havapeyma va kose sher?

man nemigam iran chizi nemisaze man ham az khodame ke keshvaremoon sazandeh bashe ta kharidar.

amma ina daran khali mibandan.

havapeymaye saeqe ro migi dige hatman are?

boro baba bishin sare jat ono ukraine sakhte akhonda ham be 2 ya 3 ta kos khol mesle to neshon midan ona ham bavar mikonan.

[prkjs08]

Yes! Just because the current regime is shit, this does not excuse the excesses and dictatorship of the Shah.

[99999999988888888]

You haven't answered any of my questions...at least didn't answer them well.

[master25]

thank god iran is controlling the oil now

Fuck the brits en the motherfucker americans

[chaghar]

our king was a true lover of iran and a very nationalist and smart man.

[chaghar]

shut the fuck up. he was 100 times better than mullahs.

look at iranian army right now. whatever we have is what he bought for the army. mullahs have not bought shit for that army. plus 29 years ago when the revolution happened the bushehr nuclear powr plant was 85% complete. in 30 years mullahs have been able to complete only the 15 percent with all the money the gave to putin.

[chaghar]

kiram to koset ke ta akhare omret khar mimooni.

fekr mikoni in madar jendeha be amricaiiha baj nemidan?

kiram to mokhet on moghe ma oza ahvalemoon 100 bar az alan bhtar bood. har kasi ro ba zamane khodesh moghayese bayad kard kos khol.

mohammad reza shah mogheii iran ro az babash tahvil gereft iran faghat ye kharabeh bood.

dollar 7 toman shod. artesh ghavi tarin dar middle east shod. alan ma mostaghelim?

ghavanine arabi roye keshvare ma hokm dare mikone. gheyr az ine?

berin kon bedin baba.

[oclandestin]

Iran is not under US control. Let's hope it never will be. The US just wishes it was, so they could get their hands on the rest of Iran's oil supplies.

[bakhtash]

Iran is not under US control and it never will be either:)

have your hopes my dear, Iranians are strong, and the many righteous people who cheer for Iran and feel love towards it are indeed strong as well!

[Buried3030]

nah Id say they lost control after the islamic revolution....hence the US isn't allied with Iran anymore.

[oclandestin]

Proof that democracy is the last thing America wants in the Middle East. They overthrew Iran's only democratically elected government and installed the murderous dictatorial Shah. And all because the Iranian president wanted the Iranians to benefit from the nationalisation of Iranian oil. The CIA is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world today. Today the USA is looking for any pretext to invade Iran again to get its hands on the rest of their oil. We can't let it happen again.

[Buried3030]

But we supported Mosaddeq up until he starting negotiations with the Soviets....whether he hyped this up or not, it still was done.

[oclandestin]

The USA supported Mosaddeq up until he wanted to nataionalise Iranian oil, which would have benefitted the Iranian people instead of foreign oil corporations. There is no excuse for overthrowing any foreign government, but especially a democratically elected one. The USA has only ever been interested in oil. The Soviets had nothing to do with it. Even if they did, that wouldn't justify overthrowing Iran's government.

[kit007yes]

@oclandestin Mr. Mossadegh was a British hero. He served Britain's interest when he nationalized the oil. Did you know Mr. Mossadegh's PhD is fake? Did you know Mr. Mossadegh was arrested twice by Reza Pahlavi for treason when he was caught colluding with Brits to undercut Reza Shah's program? DId you know Mossadegh colluded with British to force Reza Shah into forced exile and then murdered him? YOu call this vile old man, a hero? He is a traitor to Iran.

[asleeperj]

@oclandestin Democracy is the only thing the US government wants here. The US was designed as a REPUBLIC, and thus each individual had his/her rights, but now that it is a democracy, we will see the steady decline into a dictatorship, which all democracy's fall into eventually.

[Loverboy954]

It's all those peoples faults of how there nation is viewed today by other countries. They sold themselves to the CIA.

[mskilj]

Kermit roosevelt is an evil twisted man that should be ashamed of his actions. He is a terrorist and a disgrace to humanity and the USA.

[Buried3030]

I think it was important that we kept Iran in the western bank from the Soviets.

[janeleone]

CIA trained Shah Police to torture political dissidents, rape women in the streets, mass murder and killing of innocents on a massive scale, people.

Did Mossadegh not deserve to handle the resources of his own nation and do what was in the best interest of Iranians? BP obviously didn't think so!

What sucks is that the same criminals are in charge of the US and UK today.

[EasyEs]

CIA agents and members of the Federal government in the 1950s are still alive and in charge today.. Sorry thats just dumb.

[theinsaneboys]

Fu#king CIA

The BIGGEST criminals

[rktech68fl]

"Mossadegh was a communist?"...pure British propaganda. "The coup was justified and necessary?" ..LOL yeah so the British could continue to rape 90% of the oil profits--of course the Iranians didn't have cash! Mossadegh nationalized the oil industry when they refused to change the terms of the agreement. That's what happens when you exploit another country's sovereign resource. They eventually figure out they're getting screwed and throw your ass out.

[ihatekhomeini]

@rktech68fl The people who argue against Mossadeq's actions are brainwashed morons who think that agreements made centuries ago should constitute the foundations of our society today. What they don't realize is that the British oil agreements where enforced on Iran, as you probably know. Mossadeq would also have stopped the muslims from gaining any power, as he was against religion getting mixed in politics. He was Iran's hope, and the US and British took that away for some oil.

[kit007yes]

@rktech68fl Mossadegh was a British puppet. He was arrested twice during Reza Pahlavi, the Great's reign for treason as a spy for Britain. Mr. Mossadegh colluded with British to force Reza Shah the Great into exile and subsequently murdered him. The nationalization of oil was in the interest of British but not of Iran. Do you know how many billions Iran paid for breaking the contract? When you find the answer, you will realize, Mossadegh was a British hero and eulogized for it.

[asleeperj]

@rktech68fl You hit the nail on the head. Though i believe property rights would have solved this dilemma , as a whole. If the Iranians could Own their own property, then sell it, or the resources they provided, then the world would be better off today. Alas, the world government powers at be want resources from unnecessarily impoverished countries.

[MEZDYZ0]

this was the dominoe effect that would lead the ayatollah khomeni to take power in Iran and take advantage of the Iranian people

[SmokeG13]

one of the original CIA inside jobs.

[mwe1967]

Mossadeq was a communist and illegaly seized British owned oil equipment violationg the agreement the UK and Iran had to share oil revenues and provide jobs to Iranians. The Iranians had neither the technology or the cash to develop the oil fields. He dissolved the parliament and would have let the USSR have the oil. The coup was justified and necessary.

[ncollins3]

It's interesting how people justify interventions and occupations. They always seem to have a crystal ball that shows them the horrible future if they do NOT intervene or invade. For example here, the USSR would have taken over Iran's oil. In 1945, the Japanese would have taken mainland USA if we had not have nuked them. And now in Iraq, there will be a genocide if we stop occupying them.

[imbrd]

@ncollins3 i agree. these people never really studied history or understand the nature & tendencies of power to corrupt individuals(or select groups) and make totally ignorant, foolish & logically unsound "reasons" in attempt to justify the "occupation,invasion, or dominance" of others. We c the same exact thought pervade much of western history- ie. The crusades (built on total bs reason), western imperialism (another total bs), outright slavery & imprisonment of indigenous people, etc...

[ncollins3]

However, in the few instances where the larger power does fail (such as US-Vietnam, Israel-Lebanon, and France-Algeria), we can see these doom-and-gloom forecasts are not always certain. They are, in fact, manufactured to control people's opinion.

[vengoenpaz]

a good point

[vengoenpaz]

Perhaps you can explain to the friends and families of the hundreds of thousands imprisoned, tortured and murdered under the Shah how "justified and necessary" it was?

[Khomradeigor]

In that case you can not say anything bad about the Ayatholla either.

[ihatekhomeini]

@mwe1967 The British had seized the oil fields in the first place, it belonged to the Iranian people. The British did not even disclose earnings in those fields, leaving nothing for the Iranian people, they where practically stealing. Mossadeq was democratically elected, and if he would have created parliament the muslim fanatics would never have gotten power. He was completely against religion in politics.

[ihatekhomeini]

@mwe1967 As to Mossadeq being a communist, you must have smoked crack. He was a nationalist, and would have prevented the communists from ever getting power, just like he would create a constitution that would separate state and religion. If he had come to power, the religious fundamentalists would never have gained any power.

[Titoscudd]

@mwe1967

Can you see that you're a pathological and compulsive lier?! Mossadeq made repeated efforts to have Britain renegotiate the terms of revenue derivation from the Iranian oil profits. Even the UN asked Britain to renegotiate it with Iran. However, Britain refused to do this.

Mind you, Britain itself has nationalized more than 20 companies since the mid 60s.

Anyway, I've learned not to argue with people like you because, the VERY foundation of America's founding is "Manifest Destiny".

[Titoscudd]

@mwe1967

Where you believe that you have the right to access any and all resources even if your actions would be detrimental to the indigenous people or if they oppose them and have a god given right of supremacy over all other races. Which is what explains your behaviour towards the native populations from North and South America, to New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Vietnam, Panama, Cambodia, Guatemala, etc

[kit007yes]

@mwe1967 Did you know Mr. Mossadegh committed treason twice during Reza Shah's reign? Did you know that Mr. Mossadegh was an aristocrat from royal family of Qajar Dynasty who had sold Iran to the Brits? Did you know he colluded with the Brits to force our King, Reza Pahlavi, the Great into forced exile and murdered him? Shame on you for propping up this fake hero who only served to divide and weaken Iran's government and progress. May evil beset Mosadegh and his supporters if there is a God.

[765sniper]

the great satan at work!

[Umberto2]

I hear ya, but "white pride" is usually the clarion call of one who can't take pride in anything but his/her skin color. It diminishes your message and excludes those that should be included. You'll have more cred if you leave that part out.

[wwwPNACATTACKcom]

CI killed 6 million people 1947-1987

[monkeycat333]

Never did and never will.

[KambizHassani]

Thank you so much ncollins3 for your Video! Love you!

[lordsovereign]

instead of arguing about which corrupt dictatorship we prefer, [shah or islamic republic] because our families made more money or gained higher social status or bigger religiously based egos under one or the other...how about we just support democracy instead, and save our venom for the [mainly western] governments and their corporate backers who champion such monsterous regimes ? hmmm ?

[mcmlxvi]

How about America stops sticking its nose in other country's affairs and governmernts and stars cleanning its own house. There aren't that many tall buildings left over in NY, you know?.

[mpharm2007]

listen LORDSOVEREIGN stop pasting your same old comment everywhere, ok its nice but SHUT the fuck up

[lordsovereign]

mpharm2007, if you realy think "it's nice" then why did you comment on my vid, "if i find this BRIT im gonna rape his mom" ? no, i think what you realy mean is that, your community thrives in the bottom of the moral toilet, feasting your egos on the festering waste of social views that the civilized world shat out and flushed away long ago, and you don't like others pointing out dictatorial monarchys are the opposite of democracy.

[mpharm2007]

your a loser dude, your history and culture is so boring you have to make videos and comments about our beloved country, i bet your FAT , UGLY and you still live with your MOM.

[lordsovereign]

mpharm2007, you are welcome to speculate as to whether i am fat, ugly or live with my mum... firstly, that has nothing to do with the shah and as such you display the rational for which your western iranian community has become well known. second, what is NOT open to speculation is that you prefer a royal dictatorship over democracy. Is it any wonder that you western iranians are despised the world over ? egomaniacal gluttonous fascists.

[delaraZarin]

The reason they resort to name calling because, they are brain less Vally,/West wood crowed that are happy to drive taxis during day time and wear designer cloths to 3rd rate clubs at night. ignore them as we Persian say " can't cover the sun with a patch of mud"

[Sunsinmyheart]

Eventually CIA's role became well-known, & caused controversy within the organization itself & within the CIA congressional hearings of the 1970's. In March 2000 Madeleine Albright stated her regret that Mossadegh was ousted: "The Eisenhower administration believed its actions were justified for strategic reasons. But the coup was clearly a setback for Iran's political development and it is easy to see now why many Iranians continue to resent this intervention by America."

[mcmlxvi]

Unfortunatelly the main actors are no longer arround. It was for sure a set back and 50 years later we are paying the consecuences. However we do not learn from our past, I am sure that in 50 years from now a State Department secretary will "Regret" that America ever went to invade Irak. It is a shame, we just don't learn.

[lordsovereign]

yes mcmlxvi, the problem [other than the the US corporate media cartel] is sadly that even the younger generation of western iranians are socialy ignorant and right wing, and they teach the same racist greed and isolationism to their chilren too. on the other hand i have hope for the younger generation in iran...they are so numerous and, hip to world culture and their own history. but western iranians refuse to embrace justice and rationality instead of egoism and family indoctrination.

[delaraZarin]

Well I would agree with you in all points, if you would change your vocabulary and say" some Iranians". In case if you have not noticed, Their ignorant and monarchist attitude is exactly why they are a joke rather then organized opposition. None of them including Reza Pahlavi have any respect or credibility.

[lordsovereign]

delaraZarin, 1st, i use these terms [especialy "fascist"] in a slightly exadurated sense, but only slightly. for the space available for comments, it's the best i can do. 2nd, yes ofcorse you are correct... but only in a narrow technical sense. don't you think the iranians [especialy in LA] who do not have these characteristics is no more than about 5% ? even if it's 10% or so, it still means that around 90 % have big problems. but yes not all.

[delaraZarin]

I am sorry you are surrounded by LA crowed. According the unofficial census the number of Iranians in US is around 800 thousand. Iranians in LA are a fraction of that number. Come East and you will meet Iranians more aligned with your intellect.

[Bobak1]

It is a shame that Iranian History is littered with and shaped by traitors like you, brownnosing and collaborating with trash like lordsovereign. You treacherous betrayers, with no sense of national pride, make me want to puke.

[delaraZarin]

Dear Babak: I am sorry that you do not live up to your name sake Babak Khormadin, who fought Arab invaders. I wish you would also fight for free and independent Iran. I hope your parents did not just give you the name because it sounded nice rather they knew it's historical significant.

[Sunsinmyheart]

Funded with money from the U.S. CIA and the British MI6, the pro-monarchy forces, led by retired army General and former Minister of Interior in Mossadegh's cabinet, Fazlollah Zahedi, gained the upper hand on 19 August 1953 (28 Mordad). The military intervened as the pro-Shah tank regiments stormed the capital and bombarded the prime minister's official residence.

[Sunsinmyheart]

Mossadegh was removed from power by Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, in a CIA orchestrated coup, supported and funded by the British and the U.S. governments. The coup was led by CIA agent Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., the grandson of U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt, and came to be known as Operation Ajax, after its CIA cryptonym, and as the "28 Mordad 1332" coup, after its date on the Iranian calendar.

[dougzilla]

Excellent video. Can you source it? It says it is IRTV but when was it made?

[ncollins3]

Good idea. It was made in 1973. I'll add that to the description.

[Bobak1]

Incorrect again. Your source, the traitorous Mullahs were not let out of their cages until 1979.

[ncollins3]

Bobak, you're not even making sense. The source for my argument is the US National Archive. You're proven absolutely wrong about the CIA not having credit for the coup in 1953. Now you're simply in denial. Get over it.

[Bobak1]

Question was It says it is IRTV, but when was it made? the Islamic Republic TV was created after 1979. By the way, you keep saying this, but I have never been to Egypt.

[ncollins3]

For some reason, Youtube is not allowing me to post the website. Just search the National Archive site for Wilber and Iran. I think the docs were declassified in 2000.

[Bobak1]

Roy Henderson, the US ambassador to Iran at the time makes it abundantly clear in his dispatches to the State Department that M was overthrown by a popular uprising which started from the poorest districts of Tehran.

[ncollins3]

Henderson was playing his part. This comment by him was part of the plan. Roosevelt stated this.

[Relugus]

@Bobak1 I would not believe anything coming from a US ambassador, who was likely a corporate stooge like everyone else in the US government.

[Bobak1]

Richard Helms, long time CIA director, told BBC that the agency did not counter the rumors because the episode looked like a success. At the time, the agency needed some success to counter the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Barry Rubin wrote that it can not be said that the US overthrew Mossadeq and replaced him with the Shah... Overthrowing Mossadq was like pushing an open door.

[ncollins3]

Helms was not Director of the CIA until a decade after the coup. Further, I can't find any info on his involvement at all while he was in the CIA; therefore his credibility seems far less than Wilber or Roosevelt's.

[Bobak1]

Donald Wiber, the CIA operative, made it clear that whatever he and his colleagues were up to in Tehran at the time, simply failed:..headquarters spent a day featured by depression and despair..the message sent to Tehran on the night of August 18 said that the operation has been tried and failed and that contrary operations against Mussadeq should be discontinued. Mussadeq was overthrown on August 19 when hundreds of thousands of Tehranis poured into the streets to demand the return of the Shah

[ncollins3]

Wilber was part of the HQ team in the US. It's true that HQ had reached a point where they thought the plan was failed. But that doesn't mean that it did fail. The operatives in Tehran never gave up their efforts. Most had operated without sleep for 2 or 3 days.

[ncollins3]

Wilber's classified report was declassified in recent years. I found exactly the opposite of what you (Bobak1) are claiming. Wilber describes how by the night of the 18th that it had seemed to have failed, but the turn of events on the 19th, he certainly took credit for and further passed some credit on to other actions of the US (within the US).

[ncollins3]

Throughout the report, Wilber mentions the propaganda that was used on the Iranians. This takes time to propagate thru the population. To say that all of their efforts up to the 18th did not have any effect on the Tehranis' actions on the 19th is clearly naive.

[ncollins3]

Some excerpts:

The day of the 19th, the operatives were dispatching telegrams; agents on the streets told the crowds where to go and what to do. Page 6 of Section VIII.

Wilber: "Our trump card had prevailed and the Shah was victorious." Page 13 of Section VIII.

[ncollins3]

More excerpts:

Wilber stated that public statements made in the US "had tremendous impact on Iran and Mossadeq's downfall." These were statements from the President and the Sec. of State regarding aid and Iran falling behind the Iron Curtain. Pages 7 and 8 of Summary.

Wilber: "there can be no doubt whatsoever that this campaign had reached a very large audience and had directly influenced their thinking in a most positive way." Page 8 of Section X.

[ncollins3]

Name the agent. I'd like to see a source. Did the other agents agree/disagree?

[andrewgrumman1958]

Excellent ..

[Bobak1]

So the CIA was able to change the Iranian government with six men and $10,000? The truth is that the CIA attempted, but failed to accomplish anything. The successful coup which followed was 100% Iranian. The Russians AND the Americans were both surprised at the success of the purely Iranian movement.

[ncollins3]

The CIA'a involvement is undeniable. They admit to this. You're going to tell the CIA that they did not accomplish anything when they admit they did?? You're in denial.

[Umberto2]

I really suggest you do some studying before posting. The Iranians had their own coup in the 50's when they took out the Shah and installed a pro-Iranian leader who wanted to nationalize their oil. The CIA then re-installed the Shah in order to have a pro-western leader. The second coup in '79 was purely Iranian and gave us what we have today - an Islamic State. Nice job CIA.

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