People making Jew comments are misguided... it's not like Larry is a die-hard Jew. In fact, I remember a whole season dedicated to the triviality of being a "born again". David is a genius who isn't afraid to leave no stone unturned... I have nothing against faith, but if you're ignorant and naive enough to have fundamentalist beliefs and are really touchy and pious, then you're the very subject of Curb's ridicule in this episode.
lol i absolutley cry with laughter everytime i watch curb but i have to say that altough it is a comedy it should be realised that if it were a christian who ate god or any symbolism of their idea of a messiagh it would be deemed anti-sematic and not aired. Thats not right. still funny as hell though lol
@mervin233 incorrect. "Only jews could get away with this." Jews are the most attacked race in the world. was there a holocaust for African-Americans? No. Christians? No. Muslims? No. If you think this an attack to Christians, go watch any other sitcom on ABC, CBS, or CW and see what kind of jokes are made about Jews. You don't see Jews crying about it. Do you?
@DavidJavid Jewish is a religion, not a race. And you are so incorrect about being the most attacked race in the world. Don't make mindless arguments and made up statistics that don't exist you ignorant piece of shit.
actually, jesus was an animal. human beings are a species of animal. larry david is a genius and i support the consumption of christians' lord and savior
This is ABSOLUTELY my, and my family's favorite scene from this series. Just finished the 6th season on DVD. Wonderful. I will be as sad when this series is over as when the cast of Seinfeld said their farewells.
@dragoon84 hahaha, he does, but Sheryll makes a good point "Why would we have a zoo on Christmas day?"
And that is precisely what makes the show so great for me, he IS extremely reasonable (I agree with nearly everything he does) but there is a small bit of selfishness and irrationality in his actions.
How government corruption--"keeping people in line"--works in reality: Hillary Clinton's pollster, Mark Penn, received 6000000 taxpayer dollars in stimulus money to save 3 jobs at his public relations firm, Burson-Marsteller. Mark Penn, is also president of the polling firm Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, which did work for Hillary's campaign in 2008. Free markets and freedom of association are better than the kind of crap we're getting from Obama.
Religion's a great way to keep people in line. Look at the Church of Al Gore and Latter Day Environuts! Those tyrannical Global Warming people in Copenhagen recognize the value of religion--they invented their own and are using it to acquire the power to keep us all in line via international laws and treaties. What a bunch of presumptuous, know-it-all busybodies!
Free markets and freedom of association keep people in line, but you have to accept imperfection. A system in which law keeps people in line leads inevitably to tyranny, because law's administered by people, who need to be kept in line. The tyrant's first step is to point out that he can't keep everybody in line without more power to keep people in line, so he gets more power. Still can't do it, so he gets more power... All the while, he selects who to exert power against. Corruption worsens.
The Crusades were a governmental response to incessant Muslim attacks--an attempt to lay down a cultural foundation for security and stability. (A foundation for peace and tolerance would have to wait, social technology being so primitive in those days.)
Blah, blah, blah this is a sitcom how did the comments turn into a theological discussion. Step away from the computer and go read a good book... or THE good book if you prefer. Save the sermons for Sunday.
Socrates was killed like a bug for his moralizing because there was no inherent morality in the heart of the Athenians against doing such. Christianity hadn't arrived yet. Only when a base population of Christians were running the levers of government 1400 years later was it possible to challenge slavery and not be squashed like a bug. Even the Quakers faced serious persecution for their agenda, which is why they left for America. But they didn't leave without making decisive Anglican inroads.
Atheists get so mad when you dare to point out the "trivial" fact that Christians interpreting their Bible in a new way managed to get slavery--an institution of immense secular value and tens of thousands of years old--nearly completely eradicated from planet Earth in just a couple hundred years by convincing their fellow Christians in England (the world's super power) that it was an unChristian practice. Atheists prefer to ignore such facts pretend the world was peaceful before Christianity.
That's a straw-man argument. The only people who believe that's how the Bible "should" be interpreted are atheists--a sign of where you went wrong. The OT appeared long before there were Christians. It was Jewish law. The coexistence of Catholics and Protestants (not to mention Muslims)shows how wrong you are about the Bible being some rigid law. Rather, it's an object for personal contemplation. Always has been. Quakers started the abolitionist movement through their interpretation of the Bible
You're entitled to your own opinion but youre not entitled to your own facts, in this case historical facts. I have better things to do with my time than argue against a straw man some stupid atheist has constructed. Your argument's fraudulent. That has been thoroughly exposed here. You obviously haven't even read my posts here about the American south so why bother? Id recommend you view all comments and catch up but its obvious now youre prone to getting things wrong.
Christianity is based entirely on the bible. The bible is emphatically pro-slavery. Therefore christians who are anti-slavery are going against the their dogma.
This is not a logical fallacy or a straw man argument. This is merely simple logic and common sense that any child could understand but apparently you cannot.
6 of those 7 examples of the bible's pro-slavery stance were from the NT, I didn't think I had to point that out but I now see I should have. The question I keep asking you is what in the bible could anyone possibly interpret as being anti-slavery?
You see coexistence and harmony between the world's religions? What planet are you on?
With stupid comments like that, atheists come off as presumptuous, egotistical, bigoted ingrates. Gaze into your crystal ball and tell us of a world without religion! I doubt you could successfully reengineer the planet. Leftists want to reinstitute slavery in the guise of Statism, where the people are slaves of the State. They hate the Christian values that throw a monkey wrench into their plans for us all, so Christianity must go!! It's the only way to impose Statism, a form of slavery.
In the real world, slavery came to be viewed as an evil thing because of Christianity. Before the Quakers, both secular and religious moralists around the world accepted human bondage as requiring no special moral justification. Without Christianity, there's absolutely no reason to believe you'd consider slavery evil today at all. That belief didn't come out of thin air. It was passed down from the Quakers and is based on NOTHING but their interpretation of the Bible you mock.
Stonewall Jackson was a devout christian and, unlike you, actually read the bible. He believed the creator had sanctioned slavery, and man had no moral right to challenge its existence
It is dishonest of you to cite the Quakers opposition of slavery without addressing the fact that many devout christians interpreted the bible as giving justification for slavery.
I have given you many examples of the bible's pro-slavery bent, but you cannot cite one example of the bible saying anything against.
Slavery was banned because of Christianity. Is there anything else good that might come from it? It would be pretty presumptuous to answer "No." That was a pretty major contribution, don't you think? It was because of their religion that you think slavery's wrong. You inherited that. It had never occurred to anyone before the Quakers began a religious revolt against the State. Christ ended slavery. Irrefutably, mysteriously in a way having nothing to do with your interpretation of the Bible.
Christians believe that only members of their cult can live forever with Jesus, the magic Jew, while non-believers will be tortured in a lake of fire for eternity. How ironic that a cult member such as yourself would label atheists as presumptuous, egotistical and bigoted.
My crystal ball tells me that in a world without religion the twin towers would still be standing.
It seems to me that "christian values" are always on the side of restricting freedoms, not expanding them.
But would there ever have been twin towers? It was Catholic monks that preserved the cultural treasures of Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt---especially the arabic numeral system that made all subsequent developments in math and science possible that led to the creation of those towers. Secularists never would have had the foresight at that time period to preserve something that had little secular application at the time. Would man have ever developed a conscience without religion to ban slavery?
Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.
It was the Renaissance that brought the world back to civilization with its emphasis on science and secularism after the dark ages that were presided over by your filthy religion. How dare you give religion credit for the advancement of civilization when the church imprisoned Galileo and burned Giordano Bruno at the stake.
The fact that you cherry-pick the good parts of the bible and ignore the parts I have highlighted is proof that our morality is innate and does not come from religion.
If morality is innate, how is it that slavery as an institution, while older than Islam, Christianity, Budhism and Hinduism, was practiced all over the world yet never challenged by any of the great moralists--neither secular nor religious--until the Quakers did so as an act of faith? Answer: Slavery has undeniable secular value--free labor. The morality that got it banned was invented by Quakers. It was Christianity in England, the largest slave-trading nation in the world at the time (1740s).
The Quakers were joined in the abolitionist movement by rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment.
If you believe morality is not innate then that means you believe that if it were not for religion you would be a liar, a thief, a rapist, a killer and a slave owner. I am sorry to see you have such a low opinion of yourself. Thank god the Quakers came along and "invented" your morality.
The first recorded case of anti-slavery prose was the Socratic dialogue in the 4th century BC. Compare that with Jesus fawning over a Roman centurion slave owner. I guess that blows your theory that Quakers were the first to challenge slavery straight to hell.
There were many Socratic dialogues. It's a genre. Which writing are you referring to? Socrates appears as a fictional character in the Socratic dialogues of Plato. Plato is on record for having justified slavery. Socrates wasn't a writer. We only know about him through the writings of Plato. And we wouldn't have the writings of Plato had they not been preserved for us by Christian monks, the only people capable of preserving such things when they did--another great contribution of Christianity.
"Slavery is a system of outrage and robbery" - Socrates.
The fact that Socrates may not have existed at all in no way diminishes the philosophical ideas attributed to him. Not so with cristianity. If Jesus did not exist, your entire religion is a lie. There is very little evidence for the existence of Jesus or Socrates.
How dishonest of you to highlight the few good things christianity has done and ignore the mountain of evil it has brought.
The words from which that was translated were written by Plato. A character in a work by Plato said that. Plato himself, when he wasn't writing fiction, justified slavery as part of natural law. Socratesanity failed to abolish slavery. Christianity accomplished the task. Is abolishing slavery really just something to be dismissed as one of a "few good things" Christianity has done? I think that's one of the greatest achievements of mankind and I don't think they're finished yet doing good.
Your bible too justifies slavery as part of god's law, does it not also deserve derision? The Quakers with the help of secularists abolished slavery. Yet you give christianity the credit for the work of 1 sect without condemning all the other christian sects that were pro-slavery.
A christian cult doing some good is a major achievement in light of the crusades, inquisitions, countless religious wars, child molesting priests, etc. That does not change the fact that your religion is false.
Christianity had to permeate the populace before the spark of freedom could ignite. That was demonstrated when Socrates was squashed like a bug for his moralizing. Christianity was like a Trojan Horse for freedom. As part of the fabric of British society, it lay there like a planted bomb. Then the Quakers lit the fuse. Religion works in ways you don't appreciate.
Your Quaker example is just an aberration and not proof that christianity is always on the side of freedom and human rights.
St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas both wrote that anyone contradicting church doctrine should be tortured and/or killed. St. Sir Thomas More was made the patron saint of lawyers in 2000. More burned 6 people at the stake for the crime of being protestants. These are christianity's greatest thinkers. How dare you correlate your disgusting religion with freedom?
The morality against slavery you cherish is a remanent of the old Christian-dominated days you despise. You should renounce that idea that was slipped to you by evil Christians and take a stand for enslaving weaker people. That is the way of the atheists who promote Statism, which is slavery of the people to the State run by elistists like Obama who think they're qualified to remake the world.
Again, I gave you 7 examples of the bible's pro-slavery stance while you cannot give me one example of the bible saying anything against slavery. The fact that 1 of the dozens of christian sects took a stand against slavery means nothing to me. Jesus himself accepted slavery, for god's sake.
u r right. muslims attacked because of their fight against christianity dating back to the crusades. a world with no religion would be a world of peace we would just need to upgrade the law by far to keep people in line.
I thought it was a monkey. LMAO!!!!!
nybabyy1000 1 week ago
They worked all day on some fucking cookies. I'm catholic but that's a little wacko to get that upset over some cookie manger scene.
ESchneider513 1 week ago
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ArcadeEVA 1 month ago
Sweet Dee defending a baby Jesus.
What has the world come to!
UlrichRuler13 1 month ago
christians are such losers
larry is my god
toby099 3 months ago
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mendivan34 2 months ago
the son of god was a monkey? simply brilliant . . . .
brooklynman 3 months ago
I just watched this episode, LMAO.
Blitzer1234567 3 months ago
LMFAO! Larry Is So Funny!
Kimmyyboo93 5 months ago
was that D from sunny in philedelpia ?
Nookiebears 5 months ago
So he ate a jesus shaped cookie, its not the end of the world. larry is the man!
keyransolo 5 months ago
why would you turn your savior into something that's edible?
frostytheaussie 5 months ago
"I thought they were animal cookies" Classical Larry David
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i thought that was all part of the zoo.....TFF!
alyse1969 6 months ago
Sweet Dee was hilarious here with some great delivery and timing.
Jurkass2 6 months ago
"I thought that was all part of the zoo."
Major LOL.
stratocaster1986able 6 months ago
Those scmucks up there sure know how to repeat funny quotes from the video...
Douchebags!))
Travmapunk 7 months ago
I like how even if they were just animal cookies, he ate ALL of them! Didn't save any for anyone else, lmao.
Krowsnose 8 months ago
this is so ME
Yrange 8 months ago
larry david is a genius
dalyboy01 8 months ago
"I thought that was all part of the zoo!" roflmao!
RaggedM88 8 months ago
Sweet dee on curb!
nebhuskers923 10 months ago
0:56 "I thought he was a monkey". Hmm... subtle evolution joke? XD
edlitz36 10 months ago 5
I was clicking through CYE videos and saw one called "Larry eats jesus" I knew I had to watch it
SlothGunner 10 months ago 6
the "son of god" wasn't a monkey
he was a fucking con artist
suck it down
AMpufnstuf 10 months ago
These people are fucking psychos.... What, you need to have jesus cookies to enjoy Christmas? Right....
d1sgustpated 11 months ago
kaitlin olsen is awesome in this...completely takes over the scene
rayking05 11 months ago
@dragon84 thank you!!! It's not Larry David who's a schmuck. Well sometimes lol. It's everyone around him who is really uptight and bizarre.
wow183 11 months ago
People eat Jesus every time they take communion. Bunch of cannibals if you ask me
choi4816 11 months ago 4
"WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ON CHRISTMAS DAY!?"
Celebrate it like everyone else does, without a cookie manger scene, you stupid bitch.
I love this show, Larry is surrounded by the worst people in the world.
marketh2 11 months ago 12
@marketh2 truth
greedyjr 1 month ago
@marketh2 I am a Christian and I agree with the ridiculousness of this scene. Some people of my religion get cooky during the holidays
oscarxp25 1 month ago
Haha That's Dee Reynolds from "It's always sunny in Philadelphia"!
allprod1113 11 months ago 4
Jesus Christ is not an animal! hahahah
kckaseyxo 11 months ago
LOL! "I thought it was part of the zoo".
capoeiraike 1 year ago
"you just swallowed our lord and saviour" xD
hermanaki 1 year ago
Dee Reynolds knows which shows are the best out there today. The actor is a part of this show and Sunny in Philadelphia.
SmashBrosFan19 1 year ago
I'm catholic and I find this funny. Love this show.
wackyben86 1 year ago 2
Is that sweet dee??
DrPoon 1 year ago
@DrPoon yes
DogsAreCoolRight 1 year ago
That is pure genius - 'I thought he was a monkey.' 'You thought the son of god was a monkey!?'
CO2Junkie 1 year ago 6
And the moral of the story is; don't make graven images out of cookie dough.
Cytacon 1 year ago 7
dee is pissed
Audhumla 1 year ago
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Sandler41882 1 year ago
HAHAAHAHAHAH i can totally see him doing this for real
lol i thought he was a monkey
turdbug 1 year ago
Some people eat wafers and drink wine to symbolize the body and blood of Christ. Next to that eating a cookie is nothing.
theraviolicat 1 year ago
Oh Larry!
wolfievt 1 year ago
"I thought that was all part of the zoo"
Sandler41882 1 year ago 7
I just love his shrug as he walks down the stairs at :34 seconds.
every little thing he does is just so hilarious!
myraxg 1 year ago
'I thought he was a monkey!!!'
MartyFunkhouser00 1 year ago 8
let's all be great to each other folks, we're all in this together...
Tinochapus 1 year ago
People making Jew comments are misguided... it's not like Larry is a die-hard Jew. In fact, I remember a whole season dedicated to the triviality of being a "born again". David is a genius who isn't afraid to leave no stone unturned... I have nothing against faith, but if you're ignorant and naive enough to have fundamentalist beliefs and are really touchy and pious, then you're the very subject of Curb's ridicule in this episode.
sovietsentinel 1 year ago
hell yea eat that fucking jesus
tableturns77 1 year ago 4
lol i absolutley cry with laughter everytime i watch curb but i have to say that altough it is a comedy it should be realised that if it were a christian who ate god or any symbolism of their idea of a messiagh it would be deemed anti-sematic and not aired. Thats not right. still funny as hell though lol
lalalady4216 1 year ago
It is just a sitcom but it's a deliberate and insulting attack on Christianity intended to be funny. Only jews could get away with this.
mervin233 1 year ago
@mervin233 incorrect. "Only jews could get away with this." Jews are the most attacked race in the world. was there a holocaust for African-Americans? No. Christians? No. Muslims? No. If you think this an attack to Christians, go watch any other sitcom on ABC, CBS, or CW and see what kind of jokes are made about Jews. You don't see Jews crying about it. Do you?
DavidJavid 1 year ago
@DavidJavid Jewish is a religion, not a race. And you are so incorrect about being the most attacked race in the world. Don't make mindless arguments and made up statistics that don't exist you ignorant piece of shit.
losingcolorxx 1 year ago
people at church eat what represents jesus, so what's the difference?
newtland1 1 year ago
"jesus christ was not an animal, alright?"
actually, jesus was an animal. human beings are a species of animal. larry david is a genius and i support the consumption of christians' lord and savior
haproductions01 1 year ago
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smh....fuck evangelists.
wa6515 1 year ago
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smh...smh. fuck evangelists.
wa6515 1 year ago
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wa6515 1 year ago
" I thought that was all part of the zoo" Haaaaaaaaaaaa!
Slikrik1212 1 year ago
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larry can eat shit,
farro1224 1 year ago
jajajajajajajja
luislobillo 1 year ago
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Yea eat that goddamn jesus!!
tableturns77 1 year ago
yea that goddamn jesus!!
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marathon1974 1 year ago
part of the zoo ??AHAH
gX23x 1 year ago
"YOU ATE OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR?!?!"
LD: "Whaaat? I, I thought he was a monkey." HAHAHA
sexualgoth10 1 year ago 57
1:12
oh god,larrys face!
afsbjah2 1 year ago
I know some people are offended by this...I was raised Catholic...I'm sorry this is just so funny
lpride1 1 year ago
....XD
bangaroodong 1 year ago
lol
McNugget06 1 year ago
"i thought he was a monkey"
lmao
sweartome25 1 year ago 23
Hilarious! I wish somebody would post the scene where Larry gets into a fight with the guy in front of the manger
Chrisaaad 1 year ago
who the fuck has a manger scene made out of cookies anyways? haha this show is pure genius. love larry david!
ceceisverycool 1 year ago
Fuck them. Cookies are for eating and any sane, cookie-loving person would have done what Larry did.
kalibos 1 year ago
JESUS DIED FOR MY APPETITE HEHE
ryujio85 1 year ago
I thought that was all part of the zoo.
dernima 1 year ago 5
SWEET D!!!!!!
CKmothafucker 1 year ago 2
@CKmothafucker SWEET D CAN SUCK MY DICK NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT ITS ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADEPHIA.
sqweebel 1 year ago
BEST SHOW EVER! cant wait for season 8
HotShotVQ35 1 year ago
after a while the constant contrived anger gets really really boring
stimpp 1 year ago
Really, no Jew joke?
glaked23 1 year ago
For fuck sakes they're just cookies! Jesus was a cookie and he was delicious!
youtubasoarus 1 year ago
"I....Thought he was Monkey."
Cannibalcorpse55 1 year ago 7
"...the toasted coconut was hay...the barn...?"
I swear to god Larry is more sane than the nut jobs he hangs around with on a daily basis. Including his family sometimes.
pegleg747 1 year ago
I thought Jesus Christ was a monkey. lol
tml4873 1 year ago 3
"You just swallowed out lord and savior!!" LMAO
Chrisaaad 1 year ago 8
"Jesus Christ is not an animal!!!"
God I love this show.
Chrisaaad 1 year ago
I thought it was part of the zoo!
jas16899 1 year ago 9
This is ABSOLUTELY my, and my family's favorite scene from this series. Just finished the 6th season on DVD. Wonderful. I will be as sad when this series is over as when the cast of Seinfeld said their farewells.
Sami7685 1 year ago
i thought he was a monkey! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
nimibiantribesman 1 year ago 3
lmao
aceyusuke 1 year ago
thouse cookies look yummy.
88pie88 1 year ago
anyone who gets pissed off about this, LIGHTEN UP!
THEY ARE FUCKING COOKIES!
miw20 1 year ago
lol I love that sad trombone music that starts playing when Larry gets himself into shit.
Subartimaeus 1 year ago 3
imagine if some one actually went through all the crap larry david goes through in this show. they would probably have committed suicide already
luxfero 1 year ago
I would have eaten it even if I knew it was jesus
cannibalcarrie 1 year ago 3
zoo hahaha
Agadalif 1 year ago
the son of god was a monkey lol
Shembeatz 1 year ago
luv Larry 4 a laugh ALWAYS makes me giggle out loud lol
charbyteU 1 year ago
this may be my favorite curb clip of all time...larry and kaitlin olsen are at the top of their games...too many funny quotes
"you swallowed our lord and savior"
"i thougth he was a monkey!"
"the son of god is not a monkey!"
rayking05 1 year ago 2
Larry David is Jesus - just doing his own thing and always having to apologise to angry weirdos
youngfrankmcclintock 1 year ago 4
"you just swallowed our lord and saviour" hahaha
70s80sPopRockGuru 1 year ago 6
I thought he was a monkey. Genious
j3parrots 1 year ago 6
@j3parrots thats genius?
oiyabastard 1 year ago
"I thought that was all part of the zoo", effin' brilliant!
isabelpiano 2 years ago 7
which one is becky
casplash4 2 years ago
Larry David comes off as pretty reasonable compared to the insane people he's around. lol
dragoon84 2 years ago 118
@dragoon84 hahaha, he does, but Sheryll makes a good point "Why would we have a zoo on Christmas day?"
And that is precisely what makes the show so great for me, he IS extremely reasonable (I agree with nearly everything he does) but there is a small bit of selfishness and irrationality in his actions.
Peace!
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cstlljoey7 2 years ago
I thought that was all part of the zoo!
XD !
enformadefichas 2 years ago
you know, no one seemed to mind this, but when he pees on jesus, everyone gets upset. i dont see the big deal
wegotmarriedinafever 2 years ago 3
"You thought the son of god was a monkey?" XDD
Dynysia030 2 years ago 7
"Jesus Christ is not an animal"
For years to piss off christians
Jesus was a mammal.
A primate to be exact.
And yes if he did live, he most likely had a penis.
xoxgodofgodsgodxx 2 years ago 2
"larryyy"....."Whaaaat!!" when he's getting up out of bed
duchbag 2 years ago 2
Hey, Dee from Always Sunny! Great actor and a great clip :3
halodude1177 2 years ago 2
@halodude1177
Oh crap you're right it IS Dee!
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why couldnt larry just join them...he is not even loyal to his own religion he midis well have just joined them than just sitting by himself..
burgersforreal 2 years ago
I thought he was a monkey! hahaha. inadvertedly a plug for evolution. Way to go larry!
Neko91485 2 years ago
That's tremendous. LD hits all the politically incorrect stuff.
cindyshealed 2 years ago 2
Can't people just enjoy Larry eating the baby Jesus and his mother Mary without spouting all the religious bullshit? It's a sitcom lighten up.
miketodd67 2 years ago 86
@miketodd67 i thoght he was jew from a an ep i havw saw before the wedding
XFX40 1 year ago
@miketodd67 You ate the son of God? No I ate the virgin marry! LMAO Well bitch came fresh out the oven with sandals!
unfathomableinquiry 1 year ago 2
@miketodd67 Times like this I love to think of what MTV did with that Christmas comercial.
UsurperDunamis 1 year ago
@miketodd67 no,they can't ! It's been drummed into their heads since childhood. it's an illness.
plutoplatters 1 year ago
@miketodd67 well said!! they need to cut the shit. jesus isn't even real anway lol.
skinnybitch90 1 year ago
"i thought he was a monkey! lmfao!
HotShotVQ35 2 years ago 5
I loved that line.
miketodd67 2 years ago 2
How government corruption--"keeping people in line"--works in reality: Hillary Clinton's pollster, Mark Penn, received 6000000 taxpayer dollars in stimulus money to save 3 jobs at his public relations firm, Burson-Marsteller. Mark Penn, is also president of the polling firm Penn, Schoen and Berland Associates, which did work for Hillary's campaign in 2008. Free markets and freedom of association are better than the kind of crap we're getting from Obama.
grexample 2 years ago 2
Religion's a great way to keep people in line. Look at the Church of Al Gore and Latter Day Environuts! Those tyrannical Global Warming people in Copenhagen recognize the value of religion--they invented their own and are using it to acquire the power to keep us all in line via international laws and treaties. What a bunch of presumptuous, know-it-all busybodies!
grexample 2 years ago
Free markets and freedom of association keep people in line, but you have to accept imperfection. A system in which law keeps people in line leads inevitably to tyranny, because law's administered by people, who need to be kept in line. The tyrant's first step is to point out that he can't keep everybody in line without more power to keep people in line, so he gets more power. Still can't do it, so he gets more power... All the while, he selects who to exert power against. Corruption worsens.
grexample 2 years ago
@grexample Wow...you seem like an absolutely delightful person. Thanks for sharing.
ebandd 1 year ago
The Crusades were a governmental response to incessant Muslim attacks--an attempt to lay down a cultural foundation for security and stability. (A foundation for peace and tolerance would have to wait, social technology being so primitive in those days.)
grexample 2 years ago
I just wanna point out that it's Dee from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia...
that is all
SchizoCalamity 2 years ago
@SchizoCalamity Oh Yeah Dee, thanks for pointing her out. Now I recognize her voice
lpride1 1 year ago
"You just swallowed our lord and savior."
kolst8406 2 years ago 4
Blah, blah, blah this is a sitcom how did the comments turn into a theological discussion. Step away from the computer and go read a good book... or THE good book if you prefer. Save the sermons for Sunday.
miketodd67 2 years ago 7
thank you
SiNMurderfaceHG 2 years ago
AMEN !
thanks for that reply -that was pretty, preetty, preeettty, good !
foxpawz 2 years ago
Socrates was killed like a bug for his moralizing because there was no inherent morality in the heart of the Athenians against doing such. Christianity hadn't arrived yet. Only when a base population of Christians were running the levers of government 1400 years later was it possible to challenge slavery and not be squashed like a bug. Even the Quakers faced serious persecution for their agenda, which is why they left for America. But they didn't leave without making decisive Anglican inroads.
grexample 2 years ago 4
Atheists get so mad when you dare to point out the "trivial" fact that Christians interpreting their Bible in a new way managed to get slavery--an institution of immense secular value and tens of thousands of years old--nearly completely eradicated from planet Earth in just a couple hundred years by convincing their fellow Christians in England (the world's super power) that it was an unChristian practice. Atheists prefer to ignore such facts pretend the world was peaceful before Christianity.
grexample 2 years ago 5
i thought they were animal cookies! lmao
HotShotVQ35 2 years ago
That's a straw-man argument. The only people who believe that's how the Bible "should" be interpreted are atheists--a sign of where you went wrong. The OT appeared long before there were Christians. It was Jewish law. The coexistence of Catholics and Protestants (not to mention Muslims)shows how wrong you are about the Bible being some rigid law. Rather, it's an object for personal contemplation. Always has been. Quakers started the abolitionist movement through their interpretation of the Bible
grexample 2 years ago 5
You're entitled to your own opinion but youre not entitled to your own facts, in this case historical facts. I have better things to do with my time than argue against a straw man some stupid atheist has constructed. Your argument's fraudulent. That has been thoroughly exposed here. You obviously haven't even read my posts here about the American south so why bother? Id recommend you view all comments and catch up but its obvious now youre prone to getting things wrong.
grexample 2 years ago 5
You're not going to convince anyone at this point--even atheists with a good head on their shoulders. Yours is a straw man argument.
grexample 2 years ago 7
It's a good thing you're an atheist, because you'd be an utterly Islamic Christian. Stay right where you are, my friend!
grexample 2 years ago 5
Christianity is based entirely on the bible. The bible is emphatically pro-slavery. Therefore christians who are anti-slavery are going against the their dogma.
This is not a logical fallacy or a straw man argument. This is merely simple logic and common sense that any child could understand but apparently you cannot.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
So when did the last Christian die?
grexample 2 years ago 4
6 of those 7 examples of the bible's pro-slavery stance were from the NT, I didn't think I had to point that out but I now see I should have. The question I keep asking you is what in the bible could anyone possibly interpret as being anti-slavery?
You see coexistence and harmony between the world's religions? What planet are you on?
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
wow you complete idiot. defending religion with logic.
that's even dumber than believing it on blind faith.
you make all religious nuts look stupider for having spoken.
sharpnova2 2 years ago
With stupid comments like that, atheists come off as presumptuous, egotistical, bigoted ingrates. Gaze into your crystal ball and tell us of a world without religion! I doubt you could successfully reengineer the planet. Leftists want to reinstitute slavery in the guise of Statism, where the people are slaves of the State. They hate the Christian values that throw a monkey wrench into their plans for us all, so Christianity must go!! It's the only way to impose Statism, a form of slavery.
grexample 2 years ago 5
In the real world, slavery came to be viewed as an evil thing because of Christianity. Before the Quakers, both secular and religious moralists around the world accepted human bondage as requiring no special moral justification. Without Christianity, there's absolutely no reason to believe you'd consider slavery evil today at all. That belief didn't come out of thin air. It was passed down from the Quakers and is based on NOTHING but their interpretation of the Bible you mock.
grexample 2 years ago 5
Stonewall Jackson was a devout christian and, unlike you, actually read the bible. He believed the creator had sanctioned slavery, and man had no moral right to challenge its existence
It is dishonest of you to cite the Quakers opposition of slavery without addressing the fact that many devout christians interpreted the bible as giving justification for slavery.
I have given you many examples of the bible's pro-slavery bent, but you cannot cite one example of the bible saying anything against.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
Slavery was banned because of Christianity. Is there anything else good that might come from it? It would be pretty presumptuous to answer "No." That was a pretty major contribution, don't you think? It was because of their religion that you think slavery's wrong. You inherited that. It had never occurred to anyone before the Quakers began a religious revolt against the State. Christ ended slavery. Irrefutably, mysteriously in a way having nothing to do with your interpretation of the Bible.
grexample 2 years ago 4
Christians believe that only members of their cult can live forever with Jesus, the magic Jew, while non-believers will be tortured in a lake of fire for eternity. How ironic that a cult member such as yourself would label atheists as presumptuous, egotistical and bigoted.
My crystal ball tells me that in a world without religion the twin towers would still be standing.
It seems to me that "christian values" are always on the side of restricting freedoms, not expanding them.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
But would there ever have been twin towers? It was Catholic monks that preserved the cultural treasures of Ancient Greece, Rome and Egypt---especially the arabic numeral system that made all subsequent developments in math and science possible that led to the creation of those towers. Secularists never would have had the foresight at that time period to preserve something that had little secular application at the time. Would man have ever developed a conscience without religion to ban slavery?
grexample 2 years ago 4
Activism is a way for useless people to feel important, even if the consequences of their activism are counterproductive for those they claim to be helping and damaging to the fabric of society as a whole.
grexample 2 years ago 5
100% true. but the alternative is to let a power structure guide every aspect of everyone's lives.
fight and fail quickly and send a message.. or sit idly by and fail slowly and send the message that everything is ok the way it is.
sharpnova2 2 years ago
It was the Renaissance that brought the world back to civilization with its emphasis on science and secularism after the dark ages that were presided over by your filthy religion. How dare you give religion credit for the advancement of civilization when the church imprisoned Galileo and burned Giordano Bruno at the stake.
The fact that you cherry-pick the good parts of the bible and ignore the parts I have highlighted is proof that our morality is innate and does not come from religion.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
If morality is innate, how is it that slavery as an institution, while older than Islam, Christianity, Budhism and Hinduism, was practiced all over the world yet never challenged by any of the great moralists--neither secular nor religious--until the Quakers did so as an act of faith? Answer: Slavery has undeniable secular value--free labor. The morality that got it banned was invented by Quakers. It was Christianity in England, the largest slave-trading nation in the world at the time (1740s).
grexample 2 years ago 4
The Quakers were joined in the abolitionist movement by rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment.
If you believe morality is not innate then that means you believe that if it were not for religion you would be a liar, a thief, a rapist, a killer and a slave owner. I am sorry to see you have such a low opinion of yourself. Thank god the Quakers came along and "invented" your morality.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
The first recorded case of anti-slavery prose was the Socratic dialogue in the 4th century BC. Compare that with Jesus fawning over a Roman centurion slave owner. I guess that blows your theory that Quakers were the first to challenge slavery straight to hell.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
There were many Socratic dialogues. It's a genre. Which writing are you referring to? Socrates appears as a fictional character in the Socratic dialogues of Plato. Plato is on record for having justified slavery. Socrates wasn't a writer. We only know about him through the writings of Plato. And we wouldn't have the writings of Plato had they not been preserved for us by Christian monks, the only people capable of preserving such things when they did--another great contribution of Christianity.
grexample 2 years ago 3
"Slavery is a system of outrage and robbery" - Socrates.
The fact that Socrates may not have existed at all in no way diminishes the philosophical ideas attributed to him. Not so with cristianity. If Jesus did not exist, your entire religion is a lie. There is very little evidence for the existence of Jesus or Socrates.
How dishonest of you to highlight the few good things christianity has done and ignore the mountain of evil it has brought.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
The words from which that was translated were written by Plato. A character in a work by Plato said that. Plato himself, when he wasn't writing fiction, justified slavery as part of natural law. Socratesanity failed to abolish slavery. Christianity accomplished the task. Is abolishing slavery really just something to be dismissed as one of a "few good things" Christianity has done? I think that's one of the greatest achievements of mankind and I don't think they're finished yet doing good.
grexample 2 years ago 2
Your bible too justifies slavery as part of god's law, does it not also deserve derision? The Quakers with the help of secularists abolished slavery. Yet you give christianity the credit for the work of 1 sect without condemning all the other christian sects that were pro-slavery.
A christian cult doing some good is a major achievement in light of the crusades, inquisitions, countless religious wars, child molesting priests, etc. That does not change the fact that your religion is false.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
Christianity had to permeate the populace before the spark of freedom could ignite. That was demonstrated when Socrates was squashed like a bug for his moralizing. Christianity was like a Trojan Horse for freedom. As part of the fabric of British society, it lay there like a planted bomb. Then the Quakers lit the fuse. Religion works in ways you don't appreciate.
grexample 2 years ago
Your Quaker example is just an aberration and not proof that christianity is always on the side of freedom and human rights.
St. Augustine and Thomas Aquinas both wrote that anyone contradicting church doctrine should be tortured and/or killed. St. Sir Thomas More was made the patron saint of lawyers in 2000. More burned 6 people at the stake for the crime of being protestants. These are christianity's greatest thinkers. How dare you correlate your disgusting religion with freedom?
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
The morality against slavery you cherish is a remanent of the old Christian-dominated days you despise. You should renounce that idea that was slipped to you by evil Christians and take a stand for enslaving weaker people. That is the way of the atheists who promote Statism, which is slavery of the people to the State run by elistists like Obama who think they're qualified to remake the world.
grexample 2 years ago 4
Again, I gave you 7 examples of the bible's pro-slavery stance while you cannot give me one example of the bible saying anything against slavery. The fact that 1 of the dozens of christian sects took a stand against slavery means nothing to me. Jesus himself accepted slavery, for god's sake.
kellygirlxxx 2 years ago
u r right. muslims attacked because of their fight against christianity dating back to the crusades. a world with no religion would be a world of peace we would just need to upgrade the law by far to keep people in line.
Playmeforit 2 years ago
stupid comments like what?
what a surprise. someone who disagrees with you is seen as stupid.
you must have the correct opinion on every single issue just like everyone else.
also, liberals are more interested in increasing the size of the federal government. it's the right that wants to empower the states.
both are fairly idiotic, roughly on par with how idiotic religion is in general.
oh wait. what i just said disagrees with you. it must be a stupid comment betraying a stupid opinion. lol
sharpnova2 2 years ago
I used "State" in a way you are unaccustomed to.
grexample 2 years ago 3