national geographic blew their credibility covering up for their masters .. When the concerned people of the world weighed the evidence of 9-11 vs establishment media they found out not just 9-11 to be a inside job but the mainstream media and orgs like national geographic to be a inside job. Now their pushing the global warming fraud to tax the hell out of humanity so their paraite masters can enslave us more. Kick establishment media to the curb it deserves it GREATLY
@ajahni Hmmmm? Believe National Geographic who is reporting what we already know is true. Or believe some man from Florida who makes his money off fueling conspiracy stories. Truthers keep buying into these conspiracy stories and making these people rich.
Check out in YouTube "9/11 : Dr. STEVEN JONES PRESENTATION- 911"
Dr Steven Jones was a Physics Professor at the prestigious Brigham Young University with major honors and awards. Then check out "AIA Architect Richard Gage (part 1): 9/11 Symposium 11/03/07"
Then go to the website "AE911Truth{dot}org" where 1,487 verified and certified architects and engineers have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of 9-11. They all agree that 9-11 was set up.
@ajahni Watched it and it his claims are outragously silly. He basis everything on thermite which has been proven over and over to be false. Watch these if you want to bring up videos. 9/11 Conspiracy theorist gets schooled. Did Dr. Steven Jones Help Cover Up Cold Fusion, and now 9/11 Truth?. Two of thermites ingredients are sulfur and aluminum (usually fine powder. DryWall in the building used sulfur like many brands of drywall do. Two huge chunk of aluminum hit the tower. Debunked
@LAGunBroker - I'm glad to see that an L.A. Gun Broker has more physics and science knowledge than an highly acclaimed physicist AND has more than knowledge 1,487 certified architects and engineers. Hey here some more people you might have more knowledge than:
pilotsfor911truth[dot]org
rememberbuilding7[dot]org
YouTube "9/11 WTC Debate: Collapse by fire or explosive controlled demolition? 1/11"
YouTube "9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009"
@ajahni Here's what your wonderful physicist theory amounts to. 9/11 Debunked: Thermate Chemical Signatures Disproven . I love the way truthers get all pissy when they are proven wrong. I will give all you truthes one thing. your persistant as hell. No mater how much evidence is presented to you you never give up on your fantasy stories. Read this slowly so you'll understand "Provide Some Evidence" not just a bunch of hear say or guesses.
@ajahni Oh I will give you credit on how well a truther can argue, most people can when they are trying to convince someone of a false fact. The only ones who can argue as well as truthers are Jahovah Witness. Now as the for the video where the truther claims fires did not bring down building 7? Well were is the evidence of the explosives? Everything doesn't magically disappear. pieces of det cord, blasting caps?Were are they? They were never there. Still no evidence. So why would I believe you
@ajahni You Tube Richard Gage 9/11 - Explosive Contradictions! You Tube 9/11 Debunked: Columns Cut not by Thermite. You Tube 9/11 Debunked: Thermate Chemical Signatures Disproven . We can play this game all day. Every hypotesis truthers come up with has been debunked but truthers just will not give up. Thermite is one of your biggest claims but it has been proven over and over to be false. Don't worry, in a few years there will be something else you can call a conspiracy.
@LAGunBroker - If you think that 60 to 80 tons of steel and Lord knows how much tonnage of concrete just collapsed at the speed of free fall all at once as is the case with Building 7... then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise.
In order for something that huge (building 7) to collapse all at once, it would mean that all of that tonnage of material just gave way at the same time, which is impossible unless it was demolition. Look at building 7 and know that it was demolition.
@LAGunBroker - Remember, Building 7 was hit by no airplane and was partially damage by the debris from buildings 1 or 2. The fires were minimal in building 7 and no jet fuel was involved in the infrastructure of Building 7 to "melt" the steel. But 60 to 80 tons of steel and Lord know how much concrete just gave way at free fall speed??? Come on man... WAKE UP!!!
@ajahni Building 7 was hit by debris from the towers falling which damaged the several floors on the south side. This also caused fires to start inside the building, large fires which the truthers never really show because the always show the north side. Didn't need jet fuel since there were diesel storage tanks in the basement for the backup generators which fed the fires. Regular house fires can reach 1200 F so you think there was no heat in the building? Debunked again
@LAGunBroker - Fire has never brought down a steel skyscraper. There have been high rises that were engulfed in flames for several hours, which were no where near as strong as Buidling 7... even they were not brought down by fire. Building seven was not engulfed by a raging fire, had minimal damage to it, but came down at FREE FALL SPEED. You can't be that naive!!! For massive building to be drop at free fall speed, all of the Tonnage of material must evaporate or give way all at once.
@ajahni Name one skyscraper that was hit by debris, had fires burning for that many hours and were fueled by pressurized diesel tanks. Research has already proven that the fires were larger than the truther group will admit. All the videos truther use to prove only small fires were on the nirth side but the fires started on the south side which you do not see in the videos.
@ajahni Lets just go with your claim that it was explosives. It would take a very large crew several weeks working 8+ hrs a day to rig the building. Walls would have to be busted open to expose the needed beams, fire barrier broken off these beams. Then the cutting begins. Key beams have to be cut using large cutting torches to cause the building to fall in the direction they want it to. Then they start placing the hundreds of pounds of explosive along with miles of wiring.
@ajahni So! all this was done in WTC7. The towers would have taken even long to rig because of their size. All this was done with not one person seeing anything or anyone asking "what the hell is going on?". After the colapse there would be evidence of the explosive such as wires, blasting caps, radio recievers, blankets used to direct the charges. Something would have been left but nothing was found by anyone. So where did it all go? Magic? Are "you" that naive? Just tell me where it went.
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser. Turn of the TV and phone and watch the video!
Everyone, I just debunked 911 Truthers. I made a high-rise model with a deck of playing cards and then put a fire-cracker at the base then lit it, after the explosion my Poker Cards high rise model collapsed due to the explosions, so that proves that the planes' impact knocked down the towers. Case Closed.
It's really a shame that a great institution like National Geographic has become a propaganda tool for the government. They never present the legitimate science that proves 911 was an inside job. They present these 'straw men' arguments that anyone can easily knock down.
How many people know that MOST of the original 911 commissioners disputed the final report saying a true investigation was not allowed. One commissioner even resigned calling it a FARCE!
these guys did a great job covering what happened to building 7. i mean, come on, who wouldn't believe that an office fire brought down a 47 story sky scraper? those dumb "truthers"!
Into its own footprint, no less. Office Fires are now used exclusively in building demolitions now because they're so much more effective than explosives. Explosives are SO 1.0. Office fires are 2.0!
This is complete nonsense. What I find funny is how NG doesn't ever go over the actual contents of the 9/11 Commission Report and it's blatant contradictions. First of all not ONE WORD is given about WTC7. It's said that the pentagon was hit by a 757 but no evidence to this day has been found that a plane hit it. If you look at pictures yourself you won't see ANY wreckage and all you see is a collapsed wall. Not to mention no footage (aside from a few blurry frames) of footage has been released.
Yeah. Anyone with a copy of Windows Movie Maker and Internet access thinks they are a fucking expert these days. I am sick of truthers like you who deliberately ignore scientific evidence against your bullshit claims so you can continue living in your fantasy land. And if you bother responding to this reply, you have even less of a life than I thought.
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser. Turn off the phone and the TV and watch the Video!!!
also to you aja....You listen to idiots like Alex Jones who is OBVIOUSLY spreading disinformation to make a few bucks off his movies, and well..... the rest is pretty self-explanatory.
This video is not produced by Alex Jones so your argument is mute!
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser
ARB....After following truthers for the past 8 months. I can tell you with all honesty....Your not the most stable of the lot, and that's me being polite. Im sorry, but after personally listening to the crap that you people spew.....It is no wonder people think your nuts, and don't take anything you say seriously. I entered the truth movement with an open mind, and I leave it 100% proof positive you all just have to much time on your hands.
The "truth" movement is very big so to generalize all of based on the actions of a few is irresponsible. What you may have also be subjected to was a deliberate effort by some to paint honest truthers as being nuts in order to discredit us. Its the same as politicians calling people who question them about health care bills Nazi's, Tim McVeighs and Terrorists. So I take it you now believe the Government's and NG's version of 9/11?
I don't think the "turth" movement is really as big as they cliam when they've only managed to bring in a mere 2 people to the last 10 events they've scheduled. A lot of their statistics are inflated, which suggests they themselves aren't as "truhful" as they'd like everyone to believe.
stupid twoofers, you can show them all the facts in the world and these clowns will still deny it. After all there are books and DVDs to sell the the brainwashed sheep. Twoofers are only good for a laugh... and we do laugh at them. hahahaha Please don't go away.
Sorry, but more and more are listening to us. I love how people make fun of truth as if honesty is a bad thing. Just shows you're an empty shell who probably hates his life and only gets satisfaction out of putting people down because you know you're inferior.
Sorry "sgt", more people may be listening, but then they laugh and tell their friends about the 911 nut they heard. You and all the other brainwashed Alex Jones parroting retards make my day. I love watching you and the other sheep pound away on your salt stained keyboards trying to expose conspiracies that don't exist because you are told to by your cult leaders. Funny, the irony. how much has Alex Jones made off you idiots? Hmm? Now pound away sheep, pound away. That's an order!
Haha the twoofers got pwned and they pwned themselves. Poor little Dylan looked like a scared kid and the other 2 fools were pissing their pants knowing books sales just went in the toilet. haha twoofer and bye-bye.
the last guy nailed it. Not one person involved in the alleged conspiracy has come forward! Not one! You would think out of guilt they would have said something! Nothing! When JFK was assassinated, THAT was a conspiracy and all of the involved parties WERE ELIMINATED in short order. That is fact. But that was maybe a dozen people. This would of taken thousands and that is just too many to be kept quiet...no amount of money could do that! All of those involved had no conscience or compassion??
Wrong. This would not take thousands of people. It would take one person at a computer controlling the passenger filled aircraft via remote control using them as drones. It would take the Islamic radicals who all died on the air craft to take the blame. And it would take a crew of maybe 10 to go into the Trade Centers during complete shutdowns to wire the main columns over the course of a year. For more information go to ae911truth[dot]org where engineering professional say it was inside job
Ajahni... your are a fkin imbecile. One person? Hey douche...who put the controls in the plane? Why didn't the pilots say anything? The ground crew? United Airlines? American Airlines? etc etc... this is the problem with you retards. You don't think.
tkledin.. Using Insulting language during debate is juvenile. That said.. of course it took more than one person. If you know anything about USA past covert actions you would know that they have planned many assassinations using air craft. Look at the interviews with John Perkins and CIA agents John Stockwell and Philip Agee to get an idea of how covert plans are executed. It would not take much to secretly wire a plane and turn it into a drone. My point is it would not take hundreds of people
When the military has a muliti-trillion dollar budget, it would be easy to pay off hundreds of corrupt official. See the movie Scarface, drug dealers pay off police all the time when these drug dealers have only millions, not Trillions.
Go to - ae911truth[dot]org where over 800 architectural and engineering professionals have signed a petition stating that the governments version of 9/11 was a lie. This National Geographic (Nat Geo) show was an unfair presentation. NOTICE THAT Nat Geo DID NOT COVER BUILDING 7. The entire show and the experiments were bogus. Any clear thinking individual could easily debunk Nat Geos one sided experiments. 95% of the show was proving 9/11 skeptics wrong... they did not give them fair time.
Oh you mean the organization where its leader compares the Twin Towers to cardboard boxes? The one where one of its prominent featured members said the towers came down by nukes? The one where another major member compares the towers to pizza boxes? That One?
i think this movie was staged like the story in popular machanics. i would have asked....what about the cops and firemen saying bombs were going off....why was the cameras shut off....why was the debri shipped to other countries...?????
theres lots more questions but like it matters...we,ll never get the truth so we,ll just have to be ready to nail the basterds in a well thought out counter attack. WAKE UP PEOPLE...the future of us depends on it...any groups to fight for this cause?
Heres the problem with all the conspiracy theories, If it were true you would need so many people to carry it out that at least one person would have to come clean
this is not the accepted alternative theory, this is much more farfetched than what the 911 truth movement believes but the media says this is what they believe in order to make them sound crazy. look up the new pearl harbor or david ray griffin on youtube.
Conspiracies aren't attempted by the governments if there are thousands of people who are in the know.
This documentary seems like nothing more than to quench the thirst of people wanting the truth about critical issues... and as filler for their lack of creativity and true investigative journalism among other things.
You want hard hitting information, visit my channel and PM me and ask me anything you want about anything you want.
My opinion: Government knew of an attack and did nothing. They knew it would help them have the support of the people for the invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11.
As for the New World Order, I await the day ith open arms, where there is one government. Most wars are caused by Nationalism, without separate nations, there are so many less wars.
That theory actually works. It was similar to when Pearl Harbor was attacked and FDR waited a few minutes to send help to make the destruction look more devastating so we would be justified into being in WW2.
well i don't think the president of the united states would try to let this happen. if he really wanted to be in world war 2, he would have. so in conclusion ur wrong
The only problem with this theory is that 9/11 was the cause of the war on terrorism and the invasion of Afghanistan not the invasion of Iraq. That didn't come until 3-4 years later.
I understand, but I think the American public would not have supported the Iraq war (not that it was overwhelming support already) if there was not terrorists that looked like Saddam. The complete lack of intelligence in a lot of these people is unbelievable. Whenever my Grandma sees anyone that is even remotely brown, she says he's gogin to blow us up. In my opinion the public equated Saddam with Bin Laden, and it helped pave the way for the iraq war.
its when somebody reapeatly tells you to participate, or volunteer yourself into there thing, like all the army strong comericals, the "uncle same, I Want You!" poster, and alot of u.s. army propaganda..
They must really think we're stupid. Anyone who has any doubts about who actually committed this crime, is stupid and deserves what's coming. New World Order is all I have to say.
9/11 was a conspiracy. A conspiracy that killed 3000 people. The planes were real, the passengers were real, there weren't any props used. The conspiracy isn't that they switched planes, because they didnt. The conspiracy is who planned it. This is utter bs. Another way to try and distract us from what truly happened. I vote for another investigation, one where questions are ACTUALLY answered.
Wow, that last part was so freakin' dumb. 'It may take 10,000 people.' That's if you take ALL the theories. Some of them only require a handful of people. Also, how many people does the official story say pulled off a complex plan with box-cutters? Let's just think before we discredit all the theories.
This isn't like the moon landing where the conspiracy evidence was weak and stupid. 9/11 has something behind it and there needs to be a real investigation.
Thank you National Geographic for stepping up and showing that 9/11 conspiracies are nothing but nonsense. I hope it will be as good as the time you pwned Moon hoaxers.
Bunk. If anything happened like this. The American people would tear down the white house brick by brick, like the french did to their famous prison in the French Revolution. 2 wars and many dying for 9//11. Enough already.
Agreed. I mean, look at the riots that happened during the Rodney King thing. If this WERE real and as many people as the "Truth" movement claim are "on to it" then why have there been no riots?
they loaded them onto 6 by 8 foot boats in rows of 3 along with area 51 aliens and sasquatch. They then changed all their names to fidel and shipped them to venezuela to be frozen and sent to planet x for re population after 2012.
Denial of what? Overwhelming evidence that points to 4 planes being hijacked by 19 Islamic terrorists. The fact that the mastermind KSM confessed to planning the crime (and don't give the torture line, he confessed before he was captured), etc. The irony of your questions is duly noted.
There are recently found facts that stand as clear evidence of a cover-up. I invite you to watch the video series here called "Deconstructing the Pentagon Attack". Please watch that and if you could kindly give your opinion on what it has to offer. Thanks.
you're kidding right? Not the flyover crap from the CIT boys, that even other truthers laugh at. Give me a break. Here's a little hint for you, DNA. This is a joke.
Why is that funny? There is valid eyewitness accounts that contradict the official version and there is direct evidence of a conspiracy. So, I take it you've watched the video? I asked for your thoughts regarding its content. The DNA is supposed to have survived the intolerable temperatures where the metal from the plane did not? Also, we're supposed to believe that the light poles afrter being hit did not flip end over end for some time and tear up the road and the grass? Not a joke.
So the DNA, plane parts, light poles were all planted? Right. There are many witnesses that said an airliner hit the Pentagon, are they are in on it to? ( And there statements weren't manipulated by leading questions, and didn't take advantage of a senile old man) The FBI, the fire dept all in on it also? Where did the airliner go? Where did the people on the plane go? Did they fly planes into the towers by not into the Pentagon? Why?
Yes in my opinion those items were staged. It is to my understanding that some of those witnesses have been discredited as their vantage points were evaluated and deemed invalid. The photos speak for themselves. I am not so unwitting to think that those poles did so much underextensive damage to his car and everything around it. How did they take advantage of him, and why do you label him as being senile? I never said the fire dept. was in on it but I do think rouge elements of the FBI were.
If you think it was staged, then you're completely insane. Go get help. If you really want to understand what happened on 9/11, read "The Looming Tower" by Pulitzer Prize winning author Lawrence Wright, well-sourced and he interviews dozens of people. He goes into painful detail of the origins of Al-Qaeda, why they did it, and the systematic breakdowns of sharing intelligence between the CIA and FBI. Educate yourself, otherwise I'm done with you, I can't reason with insane no-planers.
You have no right to call me insane. Because I question issues in the official story that seem leass than accurate you are going to throw me on the loony bus? How you write things on these messages exhibits your true personality. Please reply back on your opinion of the photos.
You make a good point. Just because you quesiton the official story does not make you insane. I don't believe in any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, and I frequent screw loose change a lot. But yeah, personal attacks are not needed, and I agree with you on that.
I've never read or heard anything labeled "Offical 9/11 conspiracy," but if you're asking me that I believe Al Qaeda crashed four planes, and that I don't believe Bush and CO. painted super-nano-thermite on steel beams to blow up the WTC for whatever it is the truth movement is claiming this week, then you're right. So they can plan this huge fake terrorist attack to go to war in Iraq, but forget to plant the WMDs? They're super sneaky, but at the same time they "slip up" and say "pull it?"
Rumsfeld sold WMDs to Saddam to gas the Kurds... that's why they thought they'd find him with his hand in the WMD jar. You seem like a guy who doesn't have any rational thought or reasoning abilities. You'll serve your masters well.
And who are my "masters" this week? Lizard Illuminati? Or Bigfoot Zionists? And Kudos to your troof movement with thier Charlie Sheen scam. Great job duping yourselves.
You make no sense. Sybil Edmonds confirmed that bin Laden worked for the CIA up until 9/11. Not everyone is a "no-planer"... that's just your weak ad hominem attack because you have some twisted facts and need to attack the person because you can't win with a strawman argument.
I don't know where the plane or the people on it went. There is no way around saying that planes did not hit the towers because that is evident. I don't know why. And I don't know why they would confiscate all the video footage of cameras pointed at the Pentagon and subsequently never release it to the public. It just raises suspicion that there is something they are trying to hide.
It's great to see other truthers out there. There are so many inconsistencies it's not even funny. All one has to do is question building 7 and the Pentagon and the whole explanation is destroyed.
I have strattled the fence on this for 8 years. Jumping back and forth from one side to the other. It is my judgement now that the evidence can't be ignored. There are just too many signs pointing to a cover-up. Classic example is building 7. I mean when you look at it it's so transparent what happened, but then they tell you NO that's NOT what happened. And the media feeds this story to everybody they way fed wants it, and if you question, you get thrown under the bus. That is how you control.
What I find bizarre and a little obsurd is how people just without question go with whatever the media tells them. It seems like most people straight off believe the first thing the local news told them, as if whatever shown on the news is automatically valid, or it was filtered through smart people and scrutiny. Then of course no one does any research and they continue to believe this BS. The people who refuse to or never look at the evidence have no right to argue at this point.
Media are shiny people. You can look at a news anchor as what they truly are, a salesman. The product they are selling is themselves. It's all about viewing numbers, so they can get the advertisers, which in turn generates income. Do you think if you investigate something they report as being false or inaccurate that they are going to acknowledge your correction of their mistake? No, because then they would have egg on their face. People are malleable and easy to manipulate and they know this.
Even if the media figured out it was an inside job, they would continue to report it as the "truth" because they're afraid they would lose viewers. The news is just a business that cares about money and not integrity. It's sad really.
You can't use denial in this argument because it can go both ways. Some people love to think that conspiracy happened and others love to defend the government. And each can pull out facts that say that the other is wrong so each can use the denial card. So denial is the wrong card to use. Sorry Bakes. (I Take no side all i know is that it happened and that you can't change so no reason to bitch about it.)
For any of you gullible souls that are buying into this conspiracy crap of rogue planes replacing real ones, not only is their recorded phone calls corroborated the victims were on the plane, there is also DNA that places the victims at the respective crash sites. Please don't drink the kool-aid.
this really sucks that nat'l geo is participating in this discussion in this way. let's face it, we don't have the answers as to what happened on 9/11, but it's a huge jump from not believing the official story to swallowing one of the numerous theories. it's not helpful that ng portrays the 9/11 movement as loonies who believe in these elaborate conspiracy theories. i'd just like to get some answers: where are the photos / vids of passengers from the flights boarding? and of the hijackers?
That's right sicko, why don't you ask the family members where their loved ones are? Many who talked to them on the plane, many who dropped them off at the airport. Are they all in out too?
what the hell are you talking about? i don't believe these conspiracy theories, but i also don't buy the one the gov't is selling either. we still have not seen basic evidence like rosters w/ the hijackers names on them or security videos or anything. that's all i'm asking for.
Oh "where are the photos / vids of passengers from the flights boarding?" was a mistype, try again.
There is a manifest with hijackers on it, you haven't researched this at all, but you make statements like "i also don't buy the one the gov't is selling" without any foundation. "The one the govt is selling" was the most comprehensive crime investigation ever. Please do your homework.
The point is, which seems to have gone right over your head, it no longer remained a secret after the plan was initiated, just like the plan Al Qaeda carried out was found out years later, on 9/11. Understand now?
major companies have thousands of people that work for them. I doubt if all of them have any clue to the ends that their work has on the whole of the company.
There is 300 million Americans do you think they know whats going on with their own government. We know the government lies the only question is are they lying now.
the buildings were designed to be hit by a twin engine jet aircraft. I would think any size aircraft that hit the towers would be enough to strip the fire protection from the steel girders. If a building is designed for impacts of the that magnitude why would the fire protection be stripped off so that jet fuel could melt steel beams? Is it designed for impacts or not? If not should we look at every building ever made with claims that it can with stand impacts.
9. Isolated explosive ejections 20 -- 40 stories below demolition front
waterchildtera 5 months ago
1. Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration
2. Improbable symmetry of debris distribution
3. Extremely rapid onset of destruction
4. Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes
5. Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally
6. Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking
7. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds
8. 1200-foot-dia. debris field: no "pancaked" floors found
waterchildtera 5 months ago
10. Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame
11. Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises
12. Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples
13. Evidence of explosives found in dust samples. . .."
waterchildtera 5 months ago
national geographic blew their credibility covering up for their masters .. When the concerned people of the world weighed the evidence of 9-11 vs establishment media they found out not just 9-11 to be a inside job but the mainstream media and orgs like national geographic to be a inside job. Now their pushing the global warming fraud to tax the hell out of humanity so their paraite masters can enslave us more. Kick establishment media to the curb it deserves it GREATLY
mcplanetearth 1 year ago
why the families of those onboard the aircrafts that disappeared speak up?
gokumalo 1 year ago
Not to sound dumb.. but whats a conspiricay? hah
XxMARYxWOWxX 2 years ago
google "Whats a conspiracy?" and click the first link. derrrr haha
Bradbssargdons 2 years ago
Oh, of course. google it.
XxMARYxWOWxX 2 years ago
Nat Geo's piece just got debunked as the untrue propaganda that it is. Go to
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=DOg7va khGCo&feature=channel
remove any spaces in the above link and the link should work
or type in
"THE INFOWARRIOR with Jason Bermas 8/8:Jason Debunk's National Geographic & No Planes BS!"
ajahni 2 years ago
@ajahni Hmmmm? Believe National Geographic who is reporting what we already know is true. Or believe some man from Florida who makes his money off fueling conspiracy stories. Truthers keep buying into these conspiracy stories and making these people rich.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
Check out in YouTube "9/11 : Dr. STEVEN JONES PRESENTATION- 911"
Dr Steven Jones was a Physics Professor at the prestigious Brigham Young University with major honors and awards. Then check out "AIA Architect Richard Gage (part 1): 9/11 Symposium 11/03/07"
Then go to the website "AE911Truth{dot}org" where 1,487 verified and certified architects and engineers have signed the petition demanding of Congress a truly independent investigation of 9-11. They all agree that 9-11 was set up.
ajahni 10 months ago
@ajahni Watched it and it his claims are outragously silly. He basis everything on thermite which has been proven over and over to be false. Watch these if you want to bring up videos. 9/11 Conspiracy theorist gets schooled. Did Dr. Steven Jones Help Cover Up Cold Fusion, and now 9/11 Truth?. Two of thermites ingredients are sulfur and aluminum (usually fine powder. DryWall in the building used sulfur like many brands of drywall do. Two huge chunk of aluminum hit the tower. Debunked
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker - I'm glad to see that an L.A. Gun Broker has more physics and science knowledge than an highly acclaimed physicist AND has more than knowledge 1,487 certified architects and engineers. Hey here some more people you might have more knowledge than:
pilotsfor911truth[dot]org
rememberbuilding7[dot]org
YouTube "9/11 WTC Debate: Collapse by fire or explosive controlled demolition? 1/11"
YouTube "9/11 Debunker Gets His Ass Handed To Him By Richard Gage - 20/07/2009"
ajahni 10 months ago
@ajahni Here's what your wonderful physicist theory amounts to. 9/11 Debunked: Thermate Chemical Signatures Disproven . I love the way truthers get all pissy when they are proven wrong. I will give all you truthes one thing. your persistant as hell. No mater how much evidence is presented to you you never give up on your fantasy stories. Read this slowly so you'll understand "Provide Some Evidence" not just a bunch of hear say or guesses.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@ajahni Oh I will give you credit on how well a truther can argue, most people can when they are trying to convince someone of a false fact. The only ones who can argue as well as truthers are Jahovah Witness. Now as the for the video where the truther claims fires did not bring down building 7? Well were is the evidence of the explosives? Everything doesn't magically disappear. pieces of det cord, blasting caps?Were are they? They were never there. Still no evidence. So why would I believe you
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@ajahni You Tube Richard Gage 9/11 - Explosive Contradictions! You Tube 9/11 Debunked: Columns Cut not by Thermite. You Tube 9/11 Debunked: Thermate Chemical Signatures Disproven . We can play this game all day. Every hypotesis truthers come up with has been debunked but truthers just will not give up. Thermite is one of your biggest claims but it has been proven over and over to be false. Don't worry, in a few years there will be something else you can call a conspiracy.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker - If you think that 60 to 80 tons of steel and Lord knows how much tonnage of concrete just collapsed at the speed of free fall all at once as is the case with Building 7... then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise.
In order for something that huge (building 7) to collapse all at once, it would mean that all of that tonnage of material just gave way at the same time, which is impossible unless it was demolition. Look at building 7 and know that it was demolition.
ajahni 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker - Remember, Building 7 was hit by no airplane and was partially damage by the debris from buildings 1 or 2. The fires were minimal in building 7 and no jet fuel was involved in the infrastructure of Building 7 to "melt" the steel. But 60 to 80 tons of steel and Lord know how much concrete just gave way at free fall speed??? Come on man... WAKE UP!!!
ajahni 10 months ago
@ajahni Building 7 was hit by debris from the towers falling which damaged the several floors on the south side. This also caused fires to start inside the building, large fires which the truthers never really show because the always show the north side. Didn't need jet fuel since there were diesel storage tanks in the basement for the backup generators which fed the fires. Regular house fires can reach 1200 F so you think there was no heat in the building? Debunked again
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@LAGunBroker - Fire has never brought down a steel skyscraper. There have been high rises that were engulfed in flames for several hours, which were no where near as strong as Buidling 7... even they were not brought down by fire. Building seven was not engulfed by a raging fire, had minimal damage to it, but came down at FREE FALL SPEED. You can't be that naive!!! For massive building to be drop at free fall speed, all of the Tonnage of material must evaporate or give way all at once.
ajahni 10 months ago
@ajahni Name one skyscraper that was hit by debris, had fires burning for that many hours and were fueled by pressurized diesel tanks. Research has already proven that the fires were larger than the truther group will admit. All the videos truther use to prove only small fires were on the nirth side but the fires started on the south side which you do not see in the videos.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@ajahni Lets just go with your claim that it was explosives. It would take a very large crew several weeks working 8+ hrs a day to rig the building. Walls would have to be busted open to expose the needed beams, fire barrier broken off these beams. Then the cutting begins. Key beams have to be cut using large cutting torches to cause the building to fall in the direction they want it to. Then they start placing the hundreds of pounds of explosive along with miles of wiring.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
@ajahni So! all this was done in WTC7. The towers would have taken even long to rig because of their size. All this was done with not one person seeing anything or anyone asking "what the hell is going on?". After the colapse there would be evidence of the explosive such as wires, blasting caps, radio recievers, blankets used to direct the charges. Something would have been left but nothing was found by anyone. So where did it all go? Magic? Are "you" that naive? Just tell me where it went.
LAGunBroker 10 months ago
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser. Turn of the TV and phone and watch the video!
ajahni 2 years ago
9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=PlayList&p=4B1A00A03EE8B545&index=98
Remove any spaces in the above link and it should work. If it does not work then type in
"9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings!"
ajahni 2 years ago
Even if this was planned there is nothing that's going to change because it was posted on you tube.I suppose the moon landing was fake too.
lemonspwn 2 years ago
this is bs! who owns NG? Murdock! and the NWO!
theyreoutthere 2 years ago
Nat Geo's piece just got debunked as the untrue propaganda that it is. Go to
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=DOg7vakhGCo&feature=channel
remove any spaces in the above link and the link should work
or type in
"THE INFOWARRIOR with Jason Bermas 8/8:Jason Debunk's National Geographic & No Planes BS!"
ajahni 2 years ago
Everyone, I just debunked 911 Truthers. I made a high-rise model with a deck of playing cards and then put a fire-cracker at the base then lit it, after the explosion my Poker Cards high rise model collapsed due to the explosions, so that proves that the planes' impact knocked down the towers. Case Closed.
ComradePatriot 2 years ago
hahahah fucking genious... im gonna use that
aracely842 2 years ago
It's really a shame that a great institution like National Geographic has become a propaganda tool for the government. They never present the legitimate science that proves 911 was an inside job. They present these 'straw men' arguments that anyone can easily knock down.
How many people know that MOST of the original 911 commissioners disputed the final report saying a true investigation was not allowed. One commissioner even resigned calling it a FARCE!
Look it UP!
doverlin 2 years ago
these guys did a great job covering what happened to building 7. i mean, come on, who wouldn't believe that an office fire brought down a 47 story sky scraper? those dumb "truthers"!
strapt313 2 years ago
Into its own footprint, no less. Office Fires are now used exclusively in building demolitions now because they're so much more effective than explosives. Explosives are SO 1.0. Office fires are 2.0!
SgtTravisBickle 2 years ago
The official story is the greatest conspiracy theory ever.
swaneeusa3 2 years ago
This is complete nonsense. What I find funny is how NG doesn't ever go over the actual contents of the 9/11 Commission Report and it's blatant contradictions. First of all not ONE WORD is given about WTC7. It's said that the pentagon was hit by a 757 but no evidence to this day has been found that a plane hit it. If you look at pictures yourself you won't see ANY wreckage and all you see is a collapsed wall. Not to mention no footage (aside from a few blurry frames) of footage has been released.
camreeno360 2 years ago
Sounds like total conspiracy theorist rambles of shit.
kogababe 2 years ago
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ajahni 2 years ago
Yeah. Anyone with a copy of Windows Movie Maker and Internet access thinks they are a fucking expert these days. I am sick of truthers like you who deliberately ignore scientific evidence against your bullshit claims so you can continue living in your fantasy land. And if you bother responding to this reply, you have even less of a life than I thought.
Andy120290Returns 2 years ago
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser. Turn off the phone and the TV and watch the Video!!!
ajahni 2 years ago
also to you aja....You listen to idiots like Alex Jones who is OBVIOUSLY spreading disinformation to make a few bucks off his movies, and well..... the rest is pretty self-explanatory.
Dt0x75 2 years ago
This video is not produced by Alex Jones so your argument is mute!
Here is absolute proof that 9-11 was an inside job. WITH A PERSON THAT WAS USED IN THE COVER UP FINALLY ADMITTING IT. I feel sorry for the guy.
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
In the link above there maybe a space between the c and the L Close the space and any other spaces in the link and it will work. Replace [dot] with an actual period
Or type in NATIONAL SECURITY ALERT - SENSITIVE INFORMATION in your youtube browser
ajahni 2 years ago
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ajahni 2 years ago
Thousands??? What a bunch of fucking bull shit.
National Geographic is nothing but a propaganda machine for the Government.
National Bullshit!
ARBuilder1776 2 years ago
ARB....After following truthers for the past 8 months. I can tell you with all honesty....Your not the most stable of the lot, and that's me being polite. Im sorry, but after personally listening to the crap that you people spew.....It is no wonder people think your nuts, and don't take anything you say seriously. I entered the truth movement with an open mind, and I leave it 100% proof positive you all just have to much time on your hands.
Dt0x75 2 years ago
The "truth" movement is very big so to generalize all of based on the actions of a few is irresponsible. What you may have also be subjected to was a deliberate effort by some to paint honest truthers as being nuts in order to discredit us. Its the same as politicians calling people who question them about health care bills Nazi's, Tim McVeighs and Terrorists. So I take it you now believe the Government's and NG's version of 9/11?
ARBuilder1776 2 years ago
I don't think the "turth" movement is really as big as they cliam when they've only managed to bring in a mere 2 people to the last 10 events they've scheduled. A lot of their statistics are inflated, which suggests they themselves aren't as "truhful" as they'd like everyone to believe.
JediBillman 2 years ago
stupid twoofers, you can show them all the facts in the world and these clowns will still deny it. After all there are books and DVDs to sell the the brainwashed sheep. Twoofers are only good for a laugh... and we do laugh at them. hahahaha Please don't go away.
LIBREPUB 2 years ago
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ajahni 2 years ago
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source69 2 years ago
Sorry, but more and more are listening to us. I love how people make fun of truth as if honesty is a bad thing. Just shows you're an empty shell who probably hates his life and only gets satisfaction out of putting people down because you know you're inferior.
SgtTravisBickle 2 years ago
Sorry "sgt", more people may be listening, but then they laugh and tell their friends about the 911 nut they heard. You and all the other brainwashed Alex Jones parroting retards make my day. I love watching you and the other sheep pound away on your salt stained keyboards trying to expose conspiracies that don't exist because you are told to by your cult leaders. Funny, the irony. how much has Alex Jones made off you idiots? Hmm? Now pound away sheep, pound away. That's an order!
LIBREPUB 2 years ago 3
Matt Taibbi doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
citizenfor911truth1 2 years ago
Haha the twoofers got pwned and they pwned themselves. Poor little Dylan looked like a scared kid and the other 2 fools were pissing their pants knowing books sales just went in the toilet. haha twoofer and bye-bye.
LIBREPUB 2 years ago
the last guy nailed it. Not one person involved in the alleged conspiracy has come forward! Not one! You would think out of guilt they would have said something! Nothing! When JFK was assassinated, THAT was a conspiracy and all of the involved parties WERE ELIMINATED in short order. That is fact. But that was maybe a dozen people. This would of taken thousands and that is just too many to be kept quiet...no amount of money could do that! All of those involved had no conscience or compassion??
bluekarma 2 years ago
Wrong. This would not take thousands of people. It would take one person at a computer controlling the passenger filled aircraft via remote control using them as drones. It would take the Islamic radicals who all died on the air craft to take the blame. And it would take a crew of maybe 10 to go into the Trade Centers during complete shutdowns to wire the main columns over the course of a year. For more information go to ae911truth[dot]org where engineering professional say it was inside job
ajahni 2 years ago
Ajahni... your are a fkin imbecile. One person? Hey douche...who put the controls in the plane? Why didn't the pilots say anything? The ground crew? United Airlines? American Airlines? etc etc... this is the problem with you retards. You don't think.
tkledin 2 years ago
tkledin.. Using Insulting language during debate is juvenile. That said.. of course it took more than one person. If you know anything about USA past covert actions you would know that they have planned many assassinations using air craft. Look at the interviews with John Perkins and CIA agents John Stockwell and Philip Agee to get an idea of how covert plans are executed. It would not take much to secretly wire a plane and turn it into a drone. My point is it would not take hundreds of people
ajahni 2 years ago
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ajahni 2 years ago
Seriously? I could think of a better conspiracy story with my head held inside an outhouse hole.
maverik713 2 years ago
When the military has a muliti-trillion dollar budget, it would be easy to pay off hundreds of corrupt official. See the movie Scarface, drug dealers pay off police all the time when these drug dealers have only millions, not Trillions.
ComradePatriot 2 years ago
Yes! lets just put the muslims into camps! Cause that worked so well with the Japanese, right?
If they replaced the jets, where the hell did the people go?
42399 2 years ago
I'm curious. Do any of you idiot truthers know how to spell? Is is possible you can form a coherent sentence?
You are all a pack of god damn retards. You do exactly what the professionals say you do.
It's been almost 8 year. Man up bitches and show us YOUR evidence of an inside job. So far you faggots have got nothing.
tkledin 2 years ago 2
Exactly the way I feel...Your a real MAN for that you have my respect.
PUNITislaughedat 2 years ago
i hear you muhcarl...me too !!!!!!!
any groups i can join to fight thi cause...please let me know....thanx dale
inventor091 2 years ago
Go to - ae911truth[dot]org where over 800 architectural and engineering professionals have signed a petition stating that the governments version of 9/11 was a lie. This National Geographic (Nat Geo) show was an unfair presentation. NOTICE THAT Nat Geo DID NOT COVER BUILDING 7. The entire show and the experiments were bogus. Any clear thinking individual could easily debunk Nat Geos one sided experiments. 95% of the show was proving 9/11 skeptics wrong... they did not give them fair time.
ajahni 2 years ago
Oh you mean the organization where its leader compares the Twin Towers to cardboard boxes? The one where one of its prominent featured members said the towers came down by nukes? The one where another major member compares the towers to pizza boxes? That One?
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
What a great piece of propaganda this film was! NatGeo lost all credibility with me on this one. What trash!
muhcarl 2 years ago
i think this movie was staged like the story in popular machanics. i would have asked....what about the cops and firemen saying bombs were going off....why was the cameras shut off....why was the debri shipped to other countries...?????
theres lots more questions but like it matters...we,ll never get the truth so we,ll just have to be ready to nail the basterds in a well thought out counter attack. WAKE UP PEOPLE...the future of us depends on it...any groups to fight for this cause?
inventor091 2 years ago
serious shit we shouldnt even let the iraqui people live here its like WTF!!
yesenia1070 2 years ago
DIS INFO DIS INFO DIS INFO
youre all morons if you buy into the crap. Enjoy the Fema Camps you sheep!!!
vdasdny 2 years ago
why why did they not mention building 7 makes no sense
SuperSpikie 2 years ago
Has anyone ever seen Zeitgeist 1 & 2?
How much more evidence of treason is needed? The truth is simple yet undeniable . Proof not opinions, stop the brainwashing.
buckfush911nwo 2 years ago
Heres the problem with all the conspiracy theories, If it were true you would need so many people to carry it out that at least one person would have to come clean
mikeman9412 2 years ago
hi try to snitch if your in a drug cartel to the police and see if your going to live for long. lol
SwerVQE 2 years ago
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9/11 was an inside job
PainInDaBrain 2 years ago
No one will ever know actually what has happened, Unless someone involved slips...
I'm sure there are THOUSANDS of theories, But the top 3 are it was a Government plan, A terrorist attack, or Bush did it.
Misubi55 2 years ago
this is not the accepted alternative theory, this is much more farfetched than what the 911 truth movement believes but the media says this is what they believe in order to make them sound crazy. look up the new pearl harbor or david ray griffin on youtube.
138dean 2 years ago
2:37... This is not necessarily true.
Conspiracies aren't attempted by the governments if there are thousands of people who are in the know.
This documentary seems like nothing more than to quench the thirst of people wanting the truth about critical issues... and as filler for their lack of creativity and true investigative journalism among other things.
You want hard hitting information, visit my channel and PM me and ask me anything you want about anything you want.
InfoWarriorMaverick 2 years ago
this is just silly
remy5858 2 years ago
you know i actualy think the usa need to be attacked like that.
ob094 2 years ago
lol i thought that national geographic was really supporting a conspiracy theorya
princeofexcess 2 years ago
My opinion: Government knew of an attack and did nothing. They knew it would help them have the support of the people for the invasion of Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11.
As for the New World Order, I await the day ith open arms, where there is one government. Most wars are caused by Nationalism, without separate nations, there are so many less wars.
derekismature 2 years ago
That theory actually works. It was similar to when Pearl Harbor was attacked and FDR waited a few minutes to send help to make the destruction look more devastating so we would be justified into being in WW2.
Justdaman411 2 years ago
wtf, y would u even say that.....
aerosmithrox100 2 years ago
Uh.....Because it was true?
Justdaman411 2 years ago
well i don't think the president of the united states would try to let this happen. if he really wanted to be in world war 2, he would have. so in conclusion ur wrong
aerosmithrox100 2 years ago
Coming from a kid who probably failed history last year. It is proven and is probably in your textbook.
Justdaman411 2 years ago
failed history, it is the only fucking thing i am good at
aerosmithrox100 2 years ago
i agree with u government knew but did nothing
gekko101 2 years ago 2
pearl harbor was the same way
fallenwillrise 2 years ago
The only problem with this theory is that 9/11 was the cause of the war on terrorism and the invasion of Afghanistan not the invasion of Iraq. That didn't come until 3-4 years later.
kivicauto 2 years ago
Patiot Act
FEMA
Homeland Security
Oil
1.3 mill dead Iraqies
US bases in Middle East
International Banks funding boths sides
Defense budget increase
your rights cut back
WAKE UP
romo502 2 years ago 7
I understand, but I think the American public would not have supported the Iraq war (not that it was overwhelming support already) if there was not terrorists that looked like Saddam. The complete lack of intelligence in a lot of these people is unbelievable. Whenever my Grandma sees anyone that is even remotely brown, she says he's gogin to blow us up. In my opinion the public equated Saddam with Bin Laden, and it helped pave the way for the iraq war.
derekismature 2 years ago
Read up on Hitler's "Big Lie" propaganda technique then you will understand.
TheVampirella 2 years ago
wat the hell is a propaganda
justcallmepimp 2 years ago
its when somebody reapeatly tells you to participate, or volunteer yourself into there thing, like all the army strong comericals, the "uncle same, I Want You!" poster, and alot of u.s. army propaganda..
BonkersTheBear 2 years ago
Oh thanks for inlighting me with your wisdom
justcallmepimp 2 years ago
You know this cant be true
since there were calls from the plane itself
urbanecho 2 years ago
They must really think we're stupid. Anyone who has any doubts about who actually committed this crime, is stupid and deserves what's coming. New World Order is all I have to say.
RckrChck83 2 years ago
im lost... =\ too confusing.
EKFiPod 2 years ago
*cough* *cough* inside job.
04ray25number2 2 years ago
way to go government.. way to pay off tv to manipulate our thinking.. way to do good with our taxes!!!
thepunshment 2 years ago
9/11 was a conspiracy. A conspiracy that killed 3000 people. The planes were real, the passengers were real, there weren't any props used. The conspiracy isn't that they switched planes, because they didnt. The conspiracy is who planned it. This is utter bs. Another way to try and distract us from what truly happened. I vote for another investigation, one where questions are ACTUALLY answered.
RckrChck83 2 years ago
Wow, that last part was so freakin' dumb. 'It may take 10,000 people.' That's if you take ALL the theories. Some of them only require a handful of people. Also, how many people does the official story say pulled off a complex plan with box-cutters? Let's just think before we discredit all the theories.
This isn't like the moon landing where the conspiracy evidence was weak and stupid. 9/11 has something behind it and there needs to be a real investigation.
OniLinkSword 2 years ago 3
THAT IS what they want you to think.......
CoreyandJon 2 years ago
your just bored and need something to believe in
LawAbidingHipster 2 years ago
i saw the plane that hit the pentagon. it WAS NOT a fighter. it looked like a 767
richiesimonjeffery 2 years ago
richiesimonjeffery: You create and subscribe to fart related videos. This makes it hard to take you seriously.
wolfmandan72 2 years ago
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!
0MinusTouch0 2 years ago
Thank you National Geographic for stepping up and showing that 9/11 conspiracies are nothing but nonsense. I hope it will be as good as the time you pwned Moon hoaxers.
Andy120290Returns 2 years ago 2
have you heard the theory from Youtuber "ae911truth" ?
patzivota22 2 years ago
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ajahni 2 years ago
so it's a big mystery is it
gone2cast 2 years ago
Bunk. If anything happened like this. The American people would tear down the white house brick by brick, like the french did to their famous prison in the French Revolution. 2 wars and many dying for 9//11. Enough already.
itsgoogletime 2 years ago
Agreed. I mean, look at the riots that happened during the Rodney King thing. If this WERE real and as many people as the "Truth" movement claim are "on to it" then why have there been no riots?
JediBillman 2 years ago
it happened, get over it already...
people died, we went to war, killed a bunch of muslims... then put on in the office of the presidency..
ironic? i think not..
ErikjStudios 2 years ago
wait so when the real planes landed in the undisclosed location, what did they do with the passengers on the planes?
hoardan007 2 years ago
they loaded them onto 6 by 8 foot boats in rows of 3 along with area 51 aliens and sasquatch. They then changed all their names to fidel and shipped them to venezuela to be frozen and sent to planet x for re population after 2012.
WhiteTproductionz 2 years ago 9
Oh, it all makes sense now!
Chessykatzenz 2 years ago
bring the truth WhiteTproductionz, tell me more
ynkrock7 2 years ago
Ssssh!!! You're giving away the plot to Dylan Avery's Loose Change 9/11 part 6: This time it's really truthy!
JediBillman 2 years ago
they ate them lmao
iron3624 2 years ago
thousandoaks108, are you in denial?
bakes789 2 years ago
Denial of what? Overwhelming evidence that points to 4 planes being hijacked by 19 Islamic terrorists. The fact that the mastermind KSM confessed to planning the crime (and don't give the torture line, he confessed before he was captured), etc. The irony of your questions is duly noted.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
There are recently found facts that stand as clear evidence of a cover-up. I invite you to watch the video series here called "Deconstructing the Pentagon Attack". Please watch that and if you could kindly give your opinion on what it has to offer. Thanks.
4dangler 2 years ago
you're kidding right? Not the flyover crap from the CIT boys, that even other truthers laugh at. Give me a break. Here's a little hint for you, DNA. This is a joke.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
Why is that funny? There is valid eyewitness accounts that contradict the official version and there is direct evidence of a conspiracy. So, I take it you've watched the video? I asked for your thoughts regarding its content. The DNA is supposed to have survived the intolerable temperatures where the metal from the plane did not? Also, we're supposed to believe that the light poles afrter being hit did not flip end over end for some time and tear up the road and the grass? Not a joke.
4dangler 2 years ago
So the DNA, plane parts, light poles were all planted? Right. There are many witnesses that said an airliner hit the Pentagon, are they are in on it to? ( And there statements weren't manipulated by leading questions, and didn't take advantage of a senile old man) The FBI, the fire dept all in on it also? Where did the airliner go? Where did the people on the plane go? Did they fly planes into the towers by not into the Pentagon? Why?
Your conspiracy fantasy is insane.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
Yes in my opinion those items were staged. It is to my understanding that some of those witnesses have been discredited as their vantage points were evaluated and deemed invalid. The photos speak for themselves. I am not so unwitting to think that those poles did so much underextensive damage to his car and everything around it. How did they take advantage of him, and why do you label him as being senile? I never said the fire dept. was in on it but I do think rouge elements of the FBI were.
4dangler 2 years ago
If you think it was staged, then you're completely insane. Go get help. If you really want to understand what happened on 9/11, read "The Looming Tower" by Pulitzer Prize winning author Lawrence Wright, well-sourced and he interviews dozens of people. He goes into painful detail of the origins of Al-Qaeda, why they did it, and the systematic breakdowns of sharing intelligence between the CIA and FBI. Educate yourself, otherwise I'm done with you, I can't reason with insane no-planers.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
You have no right to call me insane. Because I question issues in the official story that seem leass than accurate you are going to throw me on the loony bus? How you write things on these messages exhibits your true personality. Please reply back on your opinion of the photos.
4dangler 2 years ago
You make a good point. Just because you quesiton the official story does not make you insane. I don't believe in any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories, and I frequent screw loose change a lot. But yeah, personal attacks are not needed, and I agree with you on that.
JediBillman 2 years ago
It seems to me you believe in the official 9/11 conspiracy theory. Don't you?
swaneeusa3 2 years ago
I've never read or heard anything labeled "Offical 9/11 conspiracy," but if you're asking me that I believe Al Qaeda crashed four planes, and that I don't believe Bush and CO. painted super-nano-thermite on steel beams to blow up the WTC for whatever it is the truth movement is claiming this week, then you're right. So they can plan this huge fake terrorist attack to go to war in Iraq, but forget to plant the WMDs? They're super sneaky, but at the same time they "slip up" and say "pull it?"
JediBillman 2 years ago
Rumsfeld sold WMDs to Saddam to gas the Kurds... that's why they thought they'd find him with his hand in the WMD jar. You seem like a guy who doesn't have any rational thought or reasoning abilities. You'll serve your masters well.
SgtTravisBickle 2 years ago
And who are my "masters" this week? Lizard Illuminati? Or Bigfoot Zionists? And Kudos to your troof movement with thier Charlie Sheen scam. Great job duping yourselves.
JediBillman 2 years ago 3
You make no sense. Sybil Edmonds confirmed that bin Laden worked for the CIA up until 9/11. Not everyone is a "no-planer"... that's just your weak ad hominem attack because you have some twisted facts and need to attack the person because you can't win with a strawman argument.
SgtTravisBickle 2 years ago
Agreed. Not everyone is a "no-planer."
JediBillman 2 years ago
I don't know where the plane or the people on it went. There is no way around saying that planes did not hit the towers because that is evident. I don't know why. And I don't know why they would confiscate all the video footage of cameras pointed at the Pentagon and subsequently never release it to the public. It just raises suspicion that there is something they are trying to hide.
4dangler 2 years ago
Watch Loose Change volume 2 and it explains all of this. It's just a matter of when you'll look at the evidence.
camreeno360 2 years ago 2
It's great to see other truthers out there. There are so many inconsistencies it's not even funny. All one has to do is question building 7 and the Pentagon and the whole explanation is destroyed.
camreeno360 2 years ago 2
I have strattled the fence on this for 8 years. Jumping back and forth from one side to the other. It is my judgement now that the evidence can't be ignored. There are just too many signs pointing to a cover-up. Classic example is building 7. I mean when you look at it it's so transparent what happened, but then they tell you NO that's NOT what happened. And the media feeds this story to everybody they way fed wants it, and if you question, you get thrown under the bus. That is how you control.
4dangler 2 years ago 2
What I find bizarre and a little obsurd is how people just without question go with whatever the media tells them. It seems like most people straight off believe the first thing the local news told them, as if whatever shown on the news is automatically valid, or it was filtered through smart people and scrutiny. Then of course no one does any research and they continue to believe this BS. The people who refuse to or never look at the evidence have no right to argue at this point.
camreeno360 2 years ago
Media are shiny people. You can look at a news anchor as what they truly are, a salesman. The product they are selling is themselves. It's all about viewing numbers, so they can get the advertisers, which in turn generates income. Do you think if you investigate something they report as being false or inaccurate that they are going to acknowledge your correction of their mistake? No, because then they would have egg on their face. People are malleable and easy to manipulate and they know this.
4dangler 2 years ago
Even if the media figured out it was an inside job, they would continue to report it as the "truth" because they're afraid they would lose viewers. The news is just a business that cares about money and not integrity. It's sad really.
camreeno360 2 years ago
You can't use denial in this argument because it can go both ways. Some people love to think that conspiracy happened and others love to defend the government. And each can pull out facts that say that the other is wrong so each can use the denial card. So denial is the wrong card to use. Sorry Bakes. (I Take no side all i know is that it happened and that you can't change so no reason to bitch about it.)
kivicauto 2 years ago
For any of you gullible souls that are buying into this conspiracy crap of rogue planes replacing real ones, not only is their recorded phone calls corroborated the victims were on the plane, there is also DNA that places the victims at the respective crash sites. Please don't drink the kool-aid.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
Oh yeah I forgot all the highjackers submitted DNA before the attacks correct? Maybe they went to the closest clinic and gave blood?
Fucking jackass!!
AiresQX4 2 years ago
Hey braindead, they gathered their DNA from the rental cars and hotels they stayed at..
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
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LuXckyXWilL 2 years ago
this really sucks that nat'l geo is participating in this discussion in this way. let's face it, we don't have the answers as to what happened on 9/11, but it's a huge jump from not believing the official story to swallowing one of the numerous theories. it's not helpful that ng portrays the 9/11 movement as loonies who believe in these elaborate conspiracy theories. i'd just like to get some answers: where are the photos / vids of passengers from the flights boarding? and of the hijackers?
ho2cultcha 2 years ago
Why don't you ask their familes you sicko
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
sicko? what's so sick about wanting to see the evidence of one of the largest crimes committed on u.s. soil?
ho2cultcha 2 years ago
That's right sicko, why don't you ask the family members where their loved ones are? Many who talked to them on the plane, many who dropped them off at the airport. Are they all in out too?
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
what the hell are you talking about? i don't believe these conspiracy theories, but i also don't buy the one the gov't is selling either. we still have not seen basic evidence like rosters w/ the hijackers names on them or security videos or anything. that's all i'm asking for.
ho2cultcha 2 years ago
Oh "where are the photos / vids of passengers from the flights boarding?" was a mistype, try again.
There is a manifest with hijackers on it, you haven't researched this at all, but you make statements like "i also don't buy the one the gov't is selling" without any foundation. "The one the govt is selling" was the most comprehensive crime investigation ever. Please do your homework.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
You don't find it funny the technology didn't exist to talk on cellphones above 5000 feet back then?
AiresQX4 2 years ago
Funny this is not true, also many of the calls used air-phones. You're not one of these idiots advocating the calls were faked are you?
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
Um yeah thats not true, maybe you should look at evidence rather than find things funny to support you claims
mitchrix31 2 years ago
Lets not forget the Manhattan project was kept secret for many years and involved over
100,000 people. So the naysayers that love to say too many people would need to be in on it can stick that little fact up their ass!!
AiresQX4 2 years ago
Oh that's right, nobody ever found out who dropped the bomb.
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
No not till years later!
AiresQX4 2 years ago
The point is, which seems to have gone right over your head, it no longer remained a secret after the plan was initiated, just like the plan Al Qaeda carried out was found out years later, on 9/11. Understand now?
thousandoaks108 2 years ago
Anything to divert the blame from the Islamics.
nichtdhimmi 2 years ago
major companies have thousands of people that work for them. I doubt if all of them have any clue to the ends that their work has on the whole of the company.
There is 300 million Americans do you think they know whats going on with their own government. We know the government lies the only question is are they lying now.
gobblegobblechew 2 years ago 2
the buildings were designed to be hit by a twin engine jet aircraft. I would think any size aircraft that hit the towers would be enough to strip the fire protection from the steel girders. If a building is designed for impacts of the that magnitude why would the fire protection be stripped off so that jet fuel could melt steel beams? Is it designed for impacts or not? If not should we look at every building ever made with claims that it can with stand impacts.
gobblegobblechew 2 years ago
all people that would believe this one should be put on a plane and shot down !!! wow ???
mmdghr 2 years ago